An interesting article from Rowan Atkinson, who has a degree in
electrical and electronic engineering

I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped.


Quote:

In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one.   How so? The problem lies with the lithium-ion batteries fitted currently to nearly all electric vehicles: they’re absurdly heavy, many rare earth metals and huge amounts of energy are required to make them, and they only last about 10 years. It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis.

Which is why the the Tesla Model Y starts at AU$68,900 —in
comparison to an IC-engined Kia Picanto S for AU$18,890.

Is there 50 grand difference  between these two when most of
our driving is metro around 20,000km pa average?

F

(👆means Following )

My eldest daughter is pushing for an electric car because of course all her friends are getting one sigh. I’d like to text her some information from this topic before she commits her money if that’s ok.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 8:33am:

F (👆means Following ) My eldest daughter is pushing for an electric car because of course all her friends are getting one sigh. I’d like to text her some information from this topic before she commits her money if that’s ok.

Not a problem Lisa.  Go for it.    :)

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Imagine your Electricity Bill when you get home and plug your vehicle up for a charge.

This is a desperate attempt of diversional tactics by Industries caught out for production of 'Pollution'.

Electric one day, hydrogen the next, after comes irridium, then the blood of koala's.

I doubt I'll ever own an electric vehicle.

My next car will be a V8.  Probably a Mustang.

I'm going in for a second test-drive of this one tomorrow (today is a public holiday):

https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865

I like petrol-guzzling, real cars.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 6:12pm:

I doubt I'll ever own an electric vehicle. My next car will be a V8.  Probably a Mustang. I'm going in for a second test-drive of this one tomorrow (today is a public holiday): https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 I like petrol-guzzling, real cars.

You are having a mid-life crisis, greggery. The chicks don't want you.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 6:12pm: I doubt I'll ever own an electric vehicle. My next car will be a V8.  Probably a Mustang. I'm going in for a second test-drive of this one tomorrow (today is a public holiday): https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 I like petrol-guzzling, real cars. You are having a mid-life crisis, greggery. The chicks don't want you.

;D
Trump gets more pussy than him.  ;)

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 6:12pm: I doubt I'll ever own an electric vehicle. My next car will be a V8.  Probably a Mustang. I'm going in for a second test-drive of this one tomorrow (today is a public holiday): https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 I like petrol-guzzling, real cars. You are having a mid-life crisis, greggery. The chicks don't want you.

Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang.

Jasin wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 6:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 6:12pm: I doubt I'll ever own an electric vehicle. My next car will be a V8.  Probably a Mustang. I'm going in for a second test-drive of this one tomorrow (today is a public holiday): https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 I like petrol-guzzling, real cars. You are having a mid-life crisis, greggery. The chicks don't want you. ;D Trump gets more pussy than him.  ;)

Yes.

But he has to pay for it or sexually assault women in order to get it.

So,  we can see why you admire (relate to) him so much.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 8:33am:

F (👆means Following ) My eldest daughter is pushing for an electric car because of course all her friends are getting one sigh. I’d like to text her some information from this topic before she commits her money if that’s ok.

Lithium batteries last for 2500-3000 cycles before they die. It doesn't matter if they're in a laptop,phone or car lithium batteries have a defined life.
Electric cars would be lucky to last 10 years before they're worthless.

Most late model cars would last around 15 years before they get expensive to own. The engine-gearbox etc will be fine it's all the electronic stuff like touchscreens etc that will die.

The AEB (automatic emergency braking) systems newer cars run will cause problems in future. A Mercedes a friend owns broke a windscreen in the country Obriens replaced the screen. They couldn't recalibrate the AEB camera so the car had brakes jammed on couldn't release them had to winch it onto a truck and tow it 300km+ back to Mercedes dealer.

My next new car will probably be Subaru WRX or BRZ in manual because they don't have that rubbish like AEB. Manuals are cheaper long term auto services can add up over the years.

If you want a cheap car to run get a Toyota Hybrid Corolla (sedan) or Camry.

My SS Torana is 45 years old much cheaper to own than any newer car very little to go wrong. It's now worth 10X what i paid for it.

A realization is emerging that there is going to be a mountain of EV batteries going into landfills eventually because as yet there is no possibility of recovery or recycling obviously because it is not yet profitable.

Same realization is emerging for solar panels.

Disposal of wind turbine blades is already expensive and problematic.

Tonight I get this text from hubby’s boss/work mate (before anyone wonders… reason I get the text is becoz hubby doesn’t do text becoz…. he still has a flip phone!) this might do the rounds soon.

Text as follows….


Omg
We should go all electric they say
I had my soufflé in the oven entertaining for my friends
Power went out 3 times
My food is f’ked
Friend has a child with autism he lost his shyte, made the dog run away and they left
Now I'm sitting in darkness no friends no dog no food but thank god we're saving the planet ;D

    ;D    ;D    ;D      ^

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 8:27am:

An interesting article from Rowan Atkinson, who has a degree in electrical and electronic engineering I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped. Quote: In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one.   How so? The problem lies with the lithium-ion batteries fitted currently to nearly all electric vehicles: they’re absurdly heavy, many rare earth metals and huge amounts of energy are required to make them, and they only last about 10 years. It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis. Which is why the the Tesla Model Y starts at AU$68,900 —in comparison to an IC-engined Kia Picanto S for AU$18,890. Is there 50 grand difference  between these two when most of our driving is metro around 20,000km pa average?

Good point Ausgeoff. That's why people are moving away from petrol cars. Because of the GHG's emitted during production.

People do whatever the Media tells them to do.
The Media is 'God'.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 8:33am: F (👆means Following ) My eldest daughter is pushing for an electric car because of course all her friends are getting one sigh. I’d like to text her some information from this topic before she commits her money if that’s ok. Lithium batteries last for 2500-3000 cycles before they die. It doesn't matter if they're in a laptop,phone or car lithium batteries have a defined life. Electric cars would be lucky to last 10 years before they're worthless. Most late model cars would last around 15 years before they get expensive to own. The engine-gearbox etc will be fine it's all the electronic stuff like touchscreens etc that will die. The AEB (automatic emergency braking) systems newer cars run will cause problems in future. A Mercedes a friend owns broke a windscreen in the country Obriens replaced the screen. They couldn't recalibrate the AEB camera so the car had brakes jammed on couldn't release them had to winch it onto a truck and tow it 300km+ back to Mercedes dealer. My next new car will probably be Subaru WRX or BRZ in manual because they don't have that rubbish like AEB. Manuals are cheaper long term auto services can add up over the years. If you want a cheap car to run get a Toyota Hybrid Corolla (sedan) or Camry. My SS Torana is 45 years old much cheaper to own than any newer car very little to go wrong. It's now worth 10X what i paid for it.

My most adored vehicle.
I owned an LX hatch once, and sold it cheap, even had the hatch hutch.
I regret it every day.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang.

What. would. be. the. smacking. point?

I owned a 1986 Mitsubishi Colt, back in the 1990s. Great on fuel economy. But, if I had the money, I would probably still have it as an unregistered car that I would have restored. But, if I wanted a performance car, I might get a Monaro.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 7:33pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:02pm: [quote author=WorldSacred link=1685917661/6#6 date=1685954581] Trump gets more pussy than him.  ;) Yes. But he has to pay for it or sexually assault women in order to get it. So,  we can see why you admire (relate to) him so much.

Trump flashes his money among mainly Eastern European women trying to get a green card into the United States. But, if he was that unattractive, he would find it impossible to get laid, no matter how much money he had.

You, greggery, have reached an age where it would take more than just money to attract a lady into your life.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 7:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point?

Driving it makes me happy.

I didn't get to test drive it again today - Perth was belted with hail storms all day, and the temperature was about 9 degrees most of the day.

If it's still for sale tomorrow, I'll take it for a spin then.

Edit: Oh damn, it sold today  :'(

https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? Driving it makes me happy. I didn't get to test drive it again today - Perth was belted with hail storms all day, and the temperature was about 9 degrees most of the day. If it's still for sale tomorrow, I'll take it for a spin then. Edit: Oh damn, it sold today  :'( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865

Found another one   :)

The price is a bit high though   :(

https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/used-ford-burswood/view/2020-Ford-Mustang/28384526

When it sold new in 2020 the price was $64,000.

Now, after 3 years and 14,000 kms, they want $1,000 more.

And, they'll get that price easy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 6:12pm:

I doubt I'll ever own an electric vehicle. My next car will be a V8.  Probably a Mustang. I'm going in for a second test-drive of this one tomorrow (today is a public holiday): https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 I like petrol-guzzling, real cars.

Well, we're just going to have to agree on this one.
Ford Mustangs are the cashed up bogan car of choice, but sometimes bogans know whats fun. Mustangs are a terribly under appreciated car, I'd love one.

I'm feeling very motorcyly buyyee at the moment, but the infestation of Eastern Suburbs Cayan driving housewives would kill me.

I haven't got the green light for one of these yet, but it's going to happen.

Late 90s Jeep or Nisan Patrol ;)

https://i.ibb.co/Ld7mLYc/maxresdefault.jpg
image ru

Come to think of it now.
I wouldn't mind an old Bedford (modified) with the front slide doors for Driver and Passenger so I can piss on a mustang while still driving.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 2:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 8:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 8:33am: F (👆means Following ) My eldest daughter is pushing for an electric car because of course all her friends are getting one sigh. I’d like to text her some information from this topic before she commits her money if that’s ok. Lithium batteries last for 2500-3000 cycles before they die. It doesn't matter if they're in a laptop,phone or car lithium batteries have a defined life. Electric cars would be lucky to last 10 years before they're worthless. Most late model cars would last around 15 years before they get expensive to own. The engine-gearbox etc will be fine it's all the electronic stuff like touchscreens etc that will die. The AEB (automatic emergency braking) systems newer cars run will cause problems in future. A Mercedes a friend owns broke a windscreen in the country Obriens replaced the screen. They couldn't recalibrate the AEB camera so the car had brakes jammed on couldn't release them had to winch it onto a truck and tow it 300km+ back to Mercedes dealer. My next new car will probably be Subaru WRX or BRZ in manual because they don't have that rubbish like AEB. Manuals are cheaper long term auto services can add up over the years. If you want a cheap car to run get a Toyota Hybrid Corolla (sedan) or Camry. My SS Torana is 45 years old much cheaper to own than any newer car very little to go wrong. It's now worth 10X what i paid for it. My most adored vehicle. I owned an LX hatch once, and sold it cheap, even had the hatch hutch. I regret it every day.

I wanted a XC Cobra one of the 31 Bathurst specials went for over half a million last year prices are insane for Cobras and GT's. If i can find a good XB-XC coupe at the right price i might restore it into a Cobra replica.

The day Ford hero Moffat raced an A9X at Amaroo, skip to around 5 min for race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvD4PrpAkro

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 11:06pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 2:46pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 8:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 8:33am: F (👆means Following ) My eldest daughter is pushing for an electric car because of course all her friends are getting one sigh. I’d like to text her some information from this topic before she commits her money if that’s ok. Lithium batteries last for 2500-3000 cycles before they die. It doesn't matter if they're in a laptop,phone or car lithium batteries have a defined life. Electric cars would be lucky to last 10 years before they're worthless. Most late model cars would last around 15 years before they get expensive to own. The engine-gearbox etc will be fine it's all the electronic stuff like touchscreens etc that will die. The AEB (automatic emergency braking) systems newer cars run will cause problems in future. A Mercedes a friend owns broke a windscreen in the country Obriens replaced the screen. They couldn't recalibrate the AEB camera so the car had brakes jammed on couldn't release them had to winch it onto a truck and tow it 300km+ back to Mercedes dealer. My next new car will probably be Subaru WRX or BRZ in manual because they don't have that rubbish like AEB. Manuals are cheaper long term auto services can add up over the years. If you want a cheap car to run get a Toyota Hybrid Corolla (sedan) or Camry. My SS Torana is 45 years old much cheaper to own than any newer car very little to go wrong. It's now worth 10X what i paid for it. My most adored vehicle. I owned an LX hatch once, and sold it cheap, even had the hatch hutch. I regret it every day. I wanted a XC Cobra one of the 31 Bathurst specials went for over half a million last year prices are insane for Cobras and GT's. If i can find a good XB-XC coupe at the right price i might restore it into a Cobra replica. The day Ford hero Moffat raced an A9X at Amaroo, skip to around 5 min for race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvD4PrpAkro

How's the sound of those things?
Geez we had a brilliant vehicle manufacturing culture in this country.
Some of the best cars in the world.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 8:05pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? Driving it makes me happy. I didn't get to test drive it again today - Perth was belted with hail storms all day, and the temperature was about 9 degrees most of the day. If it's still for sale tomorrow, I'll take it for a spin then. Edit: Oh damn, it sold today  :'( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 Found another one   :) The price is a bit high though   :( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/used-ford-burswood/view/2020-Ford-Mustang/28384526 When it sold new in 2020 the price was $64,000. Now, after 3 years and 14,000 kms, they want $1,000 more. And, they'll get that price easy.

Oh, okay. Never mind. I misunderstood your earlier posts. I apologise.

Good looking car.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 8:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 8:05pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? Driving it makes me happy. I didn't get to test drive it again today - Perth was belted with hail storms all day, and the temperature was about 9 degrees most of the day. If it's still for sale tomorrow, I'll take it for a spin then. Edit: Oh damn, it sold today  :'( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 Found another one   :) The price is a bit high though   :( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/used-ford-burswood/view/2020-Ford-Mustang/28384526 When it sold new in 2020 the price was $64,000. Now, after 3 years and 14,000 kms, they want $1,000 more. And, they'll get that price easy. Oh, okay. Never mind. I misunderstood your earlier posts. I apologise. Good looking car.

They're buckets of shyte.
Stupid people buy them because.... They look good.
It's plastic ffs.

Peccary said he drives Audi's, and now he's buying a 2 star safety rated bucket of American crap.
Well done Peccary.
;D ;D ;D


Buy an older Aussie built falcon. G6E turbo, if you want a good looking vehicle with bucket loads of grunt.
Far superior motor vehicle.
HSV or SS commodore. Same thing.
Built for Australia.
;)

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 2:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 8:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 8:05pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? Driving it makes me happy. I didn't get to test drive it again today - Perth was belted with hail storms all day, and the temperature was about 9 degrees most of the day. If it's still for sale tomorrow, I'll take it for a spin then. Edit: Oh damn, it sold today  :'( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 Found another one   :) The price is a bit high though   :( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/used-ford-burswood/view/2020-Ford-Mustang/28384526 When it sold new in 2020 the price was $64,000. Now, after 3 years and 14,000 kms, they want $1,000 more. And, they'll get that price easy. Oh, okay. Never mind. I misunderstood your earlier posts. I apologise. Good looking car. ....... They look good.

They sure do.

https://editorial.pxcrush.net/carsales/general/editorial/ford_mustang_gt-fback_2020_grabberlineblackshadowpack_static_rear.jpg

https://www.exhaustnotes.com.au/2020-ford-mustang-gt-car-review/

2020 Ford Mustang Safety Score: 9.7/10

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety gave the 2020 Mustang the highest rating of Good in four out of the five crash tests conducted, as well as the second-highest rating of Acceptable in the driver-side small overlap front crash test.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration gave the Mustang an overall safety rating of five out of five stars. The Mustang also received five stars in the frontal crash, side crash, and rollover tests.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/ford/mustang/2020#:~:text=NHTSA%20Safety%20Ratings&text=The%20National%20Highway%20Traffic%20Safety,Rearview%20camera

FORD is so Crap that they should have gone completely under if it wasn't for the 'sympathy' marketing push of the Mustangs to keep them afloat.
The Ford Mustangs are still crap, like Ford - but people keep hope for something better. Unlike Holden, Ford's death is a slow lingering demise.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:34pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 3:01pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 2:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 8:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 8:05pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? Driving it makes me happy. I didn't get to test drive it again today - Perth was belted with hail storms all day, and the temperature was about 9 degrees most of the day. If it's still for sale tomorrow, I'll take it for a spin then. Edit: Oh damn, it sold today  :'( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/all-stock/view/2017-Ford-Mustang/28238865 Found another one   :) The price is a bit high though   :( https://www.johnhughesford.com.au/used-ford-burswood/view/2020-Ford-Mustang/28384526 When it sold new in 2020 the price was $64,000. Now, after 3 years and 14,000 kms, they want $1,000 more. And, they'll get that price easy. Oh, okay. Never mind. I misunderstood your earlier posts. I apologise. Good looking car. ....... They look good. They sure do. https://editorial.pxcrush.net/carsales/general/editorial/ford_mustang_gt-fback_2020_grabberlineblackshadowpack_static_rear.jpg https://www.exhaustnotes.com.au/2020-ford-mustang-gt-car-review/ 2020 Ford Mustang Safety Score: 9.7/10 The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety gave the 2020 Mustang the highest rating of Good in four out of the five crash tests conducted, as well as the second-highest rating of Acceptable in the driver-side small overlap front crash test. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration gave the Mustang an overall safety rating of five out of five stars. The Mustang also received five stars in the frontal crash, side crash, and rollover tests. https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/ford/mustang/2020#:~:text=NHTSA%20Safety%20Ratings&text=The%20National%20Highway%20Traffic%20Safety,Rearview%20camera

From the article.

For the safety minded, the 2020 Ford Mustang GT only gets a 3-star ANCAP rating

Commodores are 5 star.
Falcons are 4 star.
5 is the top number it can score.

My neighbour had a 2020 mustang.
Yank crap.
Check the rear blind spots.
And getting in and out of the thing.
Good luck with it.

Better off with a performance car that's built for this country.
LS will rev all day every day.
Barras are the same.

Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:17pm:

FORD is so Crap that they should have gone completely under if it wasn't for the 'sympathy' marketing push of the Mustangs to keep them afloat. The Ford Mustangs are still crap, like Ford - but people keep hope for something better. Unlike Holden, Ford's death is a slow lingering demise.

It's just the Yank built stuff.

Ford Australia built the barra motor and it is by far the strongest Australian 6 cylinder ever made.
The G6E turbo is a beautiful vehicle.
Take one for a spin if you get the chance.
You won't regret it, especially if it's had a few mods.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 7:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? I owned a 1986 Mitsubishi Colt, back in the 1990s. Great on fuel economy. But, if I had the money, I would probably still have it as an unregistered car that I would have restored. But, if I wanted a performance car, I might get a Monaro.

Who the bugger restores a colt? You might as well polish a turd

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? I owned a 1986 Mitsubishi Colt, back in the 1990s. Great on fuel economy. But, if I had the money, I would probably still have it as an unregistered car that I would have restored. But, if I wanted a performance car, I might get a Monaro. Who the bugger restores a colt? You might as well polish a turd

Collectors car!

https://www.carsales.com.au/mitsubishi/colt/price/1986/

Setanta wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 8:10pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? I owned a 1986 Mitsubishi Colt, back in the 1990s. Great on fuel economy. But, if I had the money, I would probably still have it as an unregistered car that I would have restored. But, if I wanted a performance car, I might get a Monaro. Who the bugger restores a colt? You might as well polish a turd Collectors car! https://www.carsales.com.au/mitsubishi/colt/price/1986/

Yesterday in a shopping carpark and old guy pulled up next to me in an 80s Honda accord and it looked like he'd had it since new and was in great condition. Looked lovely, these were the kind of old cars we bought as first cars, so I felt a little sentimental.

https://i.ibb.co/DkYJwQ5/1980-honda-accord-resize-1-54b77e5120062.jpg
dodge logo




https://i.ibb.co/DkYJwQ5/1980-honda-accord-resize-1-54b77e5120062.jpg
dodge logo

Setanta wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 8:10pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? I owned a 1986 Mitsubishi Colt, back in the 1990s. Great on fuel economy. But, if I had the money, I would probably still have it as an unregistered car that I would have restored. But, if I wanted a performance car, I might get a Monaro. Who the bugger restores a colt? You might as well polish a turd Collectors car! https://www.carsales.com.au/mitsubishi/colt/price/1986/

No one collision colts. My bike costs more than a colt

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5th, 2023 at 7:31pm: Yes.  But I'll have a shiny new (ish) Mustang. What. would. be. the. smacking. point? I owned a 1986 Mitsubishi Colt, back in the 1990s. Great on fuel economy. But, if I had the money, I would probably still have it as an unregistered car that I would have restored. But, if I wanted a performance car, I might get a Monaro. Who the bugger restores a colt? You might as well polish a turd

Yeah-yeah. You have got me there. I had this impression that greggery wanted to buy some classic/vintage Mustang or whatever. I did not realise that there were 2020 versions of the Mustang.

Obviously, if I had the money, I would be smart enough to not waste money on getting a Colt. But, I might be obsessive enough to have kept my Mitsubishi after it was replaced by my next car, and just keep it in the garage to be restored down the line. Car enthusiasts do that with 1980s-style cars, these days. Although there would not be much enthusiasm for restoring a Mitsubishi Colt.

Given that most decent sized electronic vehicles cost $60,000 to $75,000 and you can get a petrol engined car for less than half that, I can't see how saving money on petrol can be cited as a justification for going electric by itself.  As you can get 5 or 6 litres per kilometre from a lot of cars these days, how many decades would it take to recoup the extra cost?

Frances wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:46pm:

Given that most decent sized electronic vehicles cost $60,000 to $75,000 and you can get a petrol engined car for less than half that, I can't see how saving money on petrol can be cited as a justification for going electric by itself.  As you can get 5 or 6 litres per kilometre from a lot of cars these days, how many decades would it take to recoup the extra cost?

Lithium batteries in Phones laptop Cars etc only last 2500-3000 cycles.

Electric cars aren't going to last as long as fossil fuel cars.

The first Telsas were made on a Lotus Elise chassis over 10 years ago none of them are still on the road.

A picture says 1,000 words:


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