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Message started by AusGeoff on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:19am

Title: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:19am
The US has been setting a record pace for mass killings this year, with
fatal shootings happening roughly once a week.  The carnage has
taken 88 lives in 17 mass killings over 111 days.  Each time, the
killers wielded firearms.

Frequent shootings happening at record pace.

Mass killings are happening with staggering frequency this year—an
average of once every 6.53 days, according to an analysis of The
AP/USA Today data.

Last year, president Biden signed a milestone gun violence bill,
toughening background checks for the youngest gun buyers, keeping
firearms from more domestic violence offenders, and helping states
use red flag laws that enable police to ask courts to take guns from
people who show signs they could turn violent.

In February 2017, Trump signed a bill into law rolling back an
Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental
illness to purchase guns, declaring "You’re scared of the NRA".


Embarrassingly, Trump held his cue card facing the audience  while
hosting a listening session with students and survivors of mass
shootings, their parents and teachers after the mass shooting at
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.


Note his prompt #5,  "I hear you".   Did this disgusting man
seriously need a prompt to remind him to say that in closing?

     >:(




Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:24am

AusGeoff wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:19am:
Note his prompt #5,  "I hear you".   Did this disgusting man
seriously need a prompt to remind him to say that in closing?

     >:(



Yes, he did.

Criminal defendant Trump is a textbook sociopath.

Consistent behavior patterns in sociopaths include:

Lack of empathy for others

Impulsive behavior

Attempting to control others with threats or aggression

Using intelligence, charm, or charisma to manipulate others

Not learning from mistakes or punishment

Lying for personal gain

Showing a tendency to physical violence and fights

Generally superficial relationships

Sometimes, stealing or committing other crimes

Threatening suicide to manipulate without intention to act

Sometimes, abusing drugs or alcohol

Trouble with responsibilities such as a job, paying bills, etc.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:24am:

AusGeoff wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:19am:
Note his prompt #5,  "I hear you".   Did this disgusting man
seriously need a prompt to remind him to say that in closing?

     >:(



Yes, he did.

Criminal defendant Trump is a textbook sociopath.

Consistent behavior patterns in sociopaths include:

Lack of empathy for others

Impulsive behavior

Attempting to control others with threats or aggression

Using intelligence, charm, or charisma to manipulate others

Not learning from mistakes or punishment

Lying for personal gain

Showing a tendency to physical violence and fights

Generally superficial relationships

Sometimes, stealing or committing other crimes

Threatening suicide to manipulate without intention to act

Sometimes, abusing drugs or alcohol

Trouble with responsibilities such as a job, paying bills, etc.


It's as if they made that list after studying criminal defendant Trump.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Frank on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:54am
It's blacks on blacks again.  All shooters and victims are black. 
Systemic racism and CRT.









[url ]https://nypost.com/2023/04/20/fourth-suspect-arrested-in-deadly-alabama-sweet-16-shooting/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost[/url]


Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by philperth2010 on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:18pm

Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:54am:
It's blacks on blacks again.  All shooters and victims are black. 
Systemic racism and CRT.


Just plain stupid!!!


Quote:
Number of mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and April 2023, by shooter's race or ethnicity


https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

https://news.sky.com/story/why-are-white-men-more-likely-to-carry-out-mass-shootings-11252808

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Frank on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:57pm
Gun crime is black crime



Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.5
Black Americans are three times more likely than white Americans to be fatally shot by police.6
60 percent of gun deaths among Hispanic and Latino people are gun homicides.7
Young Hispanic Americans (ages 15 to 29) represent 4 percent of the population yet are victims in 8 percent of all gun homicides.8
In 2015, half of all gun homicides took place in just 127 cities across the country:
Gun homicides are concentrated in a relatively small number of neighborhoods in these cities, which have historically been underresourced and racially segregated.


Women of color are more likely than their white counterparts to be shot and killed with firearms
Black women are twice as likely as white women to be fatally shot by an intimate partner.10
American Indian and Alaska Native women are killed by intimate partners at a rate of 4.3 per 100,000, compared with 1.5 per 100,000 for white women.11
Guns are used in more than half of all homicides of women and are disproportionately used against Black women.12
Even when firearms are not used to kill or injure, they are used to threaten women at alarming rates:
4.5 million women alive today have reported being threatened with a firearm.13

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:39pm

Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:57pm:
Gun crime is black crime



Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.5
Black Americans are three times more likely than white Americans to be fatally shot by police.6
60 percent of gun deaths among Hispanic and Latino people are gun homicides.7
Young Hispanic Americans (ages 15 to 29) represent 4 percent of the population yet are victims in 8 percent of all gun homicides.8
In 2015, half of all gun homicides took place in just 127 cities across the country:
Gun homicides are concentrated in a relatively small number of neighborhoods in these cities, which have historically been underresourced and racially segregated.


Women of color are more likely than their white counterparts to be shot and killed with firearms
Black women are twice as likely as white women to be fatally shot by an intimate partner.10
American Indian and Alaska Native women are killed by intimate partners at a rate of 4.3 per 100,000, compared with 1.5 per 100,000 for white women.11
Guns are used in more than half of all homicides of women and are disproportionately used against Black women.12
Even when firearms are not used to kill or injure, they are used to threaten women at alarming rates:
4.5 million women alive today have reported being threatened with a firearm.13

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/


Excuse I, old boy, what's the gun death rate in deepest darkest Africa?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:48pm

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:54am:
It's blacks on blacks again.  All shooters and victims are black. 
Systemic racism and CRT.


Just plain stupid!!!


'Stupid' doesn't begin to describe Frank's posts.

I'm not sure there's a word that could adequately describe his special brand of ignorance.

He's really gone off the deep end lately - I suspect a bottle or two is involved.


Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:49pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:39pm:
Excuse I, old boy, what's the gun death rate in deepest darkest Africa?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?


Death rate in Africa? You mean the continent where the inhabitants shoot you for even looking at them wrong. I dunno. I figure that any reporting on the crime throughout the countries of Africa would not be accurate, as the reporters would go missing during or after the investigation. Even the media gets mugged on camera by brazen thieves that do not care that they are getting recorded... or at least until the thieves are caught and claim that the arrest is unlawful due to them not realising that they were being recorded.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:43pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:39pm:
Excuse I, old boy, what's the gun death rate in deepest darkest Africa?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?


Death rate in Africa? You mean the continent where the inhabitants shoot you for even looking at them wrong. I dunno. I figure that any reporting on the crime throughout the countries of Africa would not be accurate, as the reporters would go missing during or after the investigation. Even the media gets mugged on camera by brazen thieves that do not care that they are getting recorded... or at least until the thieves are caught and claim that the arrest is unlawful due to them not realising that they were being recorded.


Yes, dear, Africa. If the old boy's argument about tintedness is correct, we'll see the most killings in the countries with the darkest populations, yes? That's called correlation, so let's have a look. Sometimes it helps to refer to the figures to get a clear idea of the facts, does it not?

Here's the most recently published list of countries with the most gun deaths:


Quote:
Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980


As you can see, the deepest darkest Africans aren't listed. Those countries have populations ranging from tawny to a dark shade of brown, but not black as we see in the dark continent.

Here's the top ten list of gun deaths adjusted by population:


Quote:
Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41


As you can see, they're all in America, where they make most of the guns. Most of the guns in Central America are smuggled in from the US via Mexico. People there are a moderate shade of brown, with a smattering of black and white.

Here's the top ten list of gun suicides:


Quote:
Countries with the Highest Rates of Firearm-Related Suicide (per 100k) in 2019
Greenland — 16.36
United States — 7.12
Uruguay — 4.74
San Marino — 4.08
Montenegro — 3.40
Argentina — 2.67
Finland — 2.66
Monaco — 2.64
France — 2.64
Venezuela — 2.50


As you can see, they're mainly white, or possibly tanned. Some might be tattooed, which does not appear to skew the data in any particular direction.

The countries with the lowest deaths? A mixed bag, with some whites, tanned and in the case of East Asia, yellow.


Quote:
In contrast to the U.S. and Latin America, gun deaths are extremely rare in countries like Japan, the United Kingdom, Norway, and Australia. These countries have implemented incentives or passed legislation to decrease the number of firearms in circulation. For example, in July 2021, Australia implemented a permanent gun amnesty program, in which unregistered firearms could be anonymously surrendered at police stations.


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Three countries have more deaths than all other countries in the world combined: Brazil, the US and Mexico, respectively. These countries have mixed populations, with a combination of white, brindle, Mulatto and high yellow. Yes, there is some black in the mix, but not in any significant number in the overall populations, as you would observe, for instance, in the dark African Negroid populations.

As you can see, the phenomenon of gun death does not appear to have anything to do with tintedness at all. There is therefore no correlation in the figures or any indication of causation.

Year 9 maths, innit.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by lee on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:57pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:
That's called correlation, so let's have a look.


And as everyone knows correlation is not causation. ::)

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Frank on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:16pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:39pm:
Excuse I, old boy, what's the gun death rate in deepest darkest Africa?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?


Death rate in Africa? You mean the continent where the inhabitants shoot you for even looking at them wrong. I dunno. I figure that any reporting on the crime throughout the countries of Africa would not be accurate, as the reporters would go missing during or after the investigation. Even the media gets mugged on camera by brazen thieves that do not care that they are getting recorded... or at least until the thieves are caught and claim that the arrest is unlawful due to them not realising that they were being recorded.


Yes, dear, Africa. If the old boy's argument about tintedness is correct, we'll see the most killings in the countries with the darkest populations, yes? That's called correlation, so let's have a look. Sometimes it helps to refer to the figures to get a clear idea of the facts, does it not?

Here's the most recently published list of countries with the most gun deaths:


Quote:
Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980


As you can see, the deepest darkest Africans aren't listed. Those countries have populations ranging from tawny to a dark shade of brown, but not black as we see in the dark continent.

Here's the top ten list of gun deaths adjusted by population:

[quote]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41


As you can see, they're all in America, where they make most of the guns. Most of the guns in Central America are smuggled in from the US via Mexico. People there are a moderate shade of brown, with a smattering of black and white.

Here's the top ten list of gun suicides:


Quote:
Countries with the Highest Rates of Firearm-Related Suicide (per 100k) in 2019
Greenland — 16.36
United States — 7.12
Uruguay — 4.74
San Marino — 4.08
Montenegro — 3.40
Argentina — 2.67
Finland — 2.66
Monaco — 2.64
France — 2.64
Venezuela — 2.50


As you can see, they're mainly white, or possibly tanned. Some might be tattooed, which does not appear to skew the data in any particular direction.

The countries with the lowest deaths? A mixed bag, with some whites, tanned and in the case of East Asia, yellow.


Quote:
In contrast to the U.S. and Latin America, gun deaths are extremely rare in countries like Japan, the United Kingdom, Norway, and Australia. These countries have implemented incentives or passed legislation to decrease the number of firearms in circulation. For example, in July 2021, Australia implemented a permanent gun amnesty program, in which unregistered firearms could be anonymously surrendered at police stations.


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Three countries have more deaths than all other countries in the world combined: Brazil, the US and Mexico, respectively. These countries have mixed populations, with a combination of white, brindle, Mulatto and high yellow. Yes, there is some black in the mix, but not in any significant number in the overall populations, as you would observe, for instance, in the dark African Negroid populations.

As you can see, the phenomenon of gun death does not appear to have anything to do with tintedness at all. There is therefore no correlation in the figures or any indication of causation.

Year 9 maths, innit. [/quote]

Yes, you go to great lengths to demonstrate what a grimacing, shifty clown you are,  paki.  Do explain, stupid clown, what thh hese stats have anything to do with 'deepest, darkest Africa:

Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.5

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:16pm

lee wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:
That's called correlation, so let's have a look.


And as everyone knows correlation is not causation. ::)


Just so, as every schoolboy knows.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:19pm
Mattyfisk, you might be considering that the murders perpetrated in Africa is more to do with using any type of weapon, not just firearms. The Africans hack your arms off and let you bleed to death. They also have a liking to torture you to death.

Edit: And whilst I am at it, I doubt that the figures I have read of the murder rate in sub-Saharan Africa really paints the people there as all that much safer to visit.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:32pm

Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:39pm:
Excuse I, old boy, what's the gun death rate in deepest darkest Africa?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?




As you can see, they're mainly white, or possibly tanned. Some might be tattooed, which does not appear to skew the data in any particular direction.

The countries with the lowest deaths? A mixed bag, with some whites, tanned and in the case of East Asia, yellow.

As you can see, the phenomenon of gun death does not appear
Year 9 maths, innit.


Yes, you go to great lengths to demonstrate what a grimacing, shifty clown you are,  paki.  Do explain, stupid clown, what thh hese stats have anything to do with 'deepest, darkest Africa:

Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.5


Thanks for the reply, dear boy. Would you care to disclose your source?

It's not here, is it?

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/

Your reference makes no mention of tintedness at all. On the contrary, it states this:

[quote]Notably, gun violence has a disproportionate impact on racial and ethnic minorities and is highly concentrated in a relatively small number of neighborhoods that have historically been underresourced and racially segregated. This is due to a combination of weak gun laws; systemic racial inequities, including unequal access to safe housing and adequate educational and employment opportunities; and a history of disinvestment in public infrastructure and services in the communities of color most affected by gun violence.


Oh my, systemic racial inequities? Your source presents the cause of gun crime as a symptom of - ahem - racial injustice. You're arguing the cause is inferior levels of pigmentation.

So, what's it going to be?

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:19pm:
Mattyfisk, you might be considering that the murders perpetrated in Africa is more to do with using any type of weapon, not just firearms. The Africans hack your arms off and let you bleed to death. They also have a liking to torture you to death.

Edit: And whilst I am at it, I doubt that the figures I have read of the murder rate in sub-Saharan Africa really paints the people there as all that much safer to visit.


That may be, Rocky, but you haven't posted those figures.

In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.

Correlation not causation, innit.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by lee on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:40pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:16pm:
Just so, as every schoolboy knows.



And yet you give it gravitas. ::)

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by lee on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:44pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm:
In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.


Let's see Greenland - 11  deaths. So small as to be statistically too small for any relevance.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Frank on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:49pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:32pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:39pm:
Excuse I, old boy, what's the gun death rate in deepest darkest Africa?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?




As you can see, they're mainly white, or possibly tanned. Some might be tattooed, which does not appear to skew the data in any particular direction.

The countries with the lowest deaths? A mixed bag, with some whites, tanned and in the case of East Asia, yellow.

As you can see, the phenomenon of gun death does not appear
Year 9 maths, innit.


Yes, you go to great lengths to demonstrate what a grimacing, shifty clown you are,  paki.  Do explain, stupid clown, what thh hese stats have anything to do with 'deepest, darkest Africa:

Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.5


Thanks for the reply, dear boy. Would you care to disclose your source?

It's not here, is it?

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/

Your reference makes no mention of tintedness at all. On the contrary, it states this:

[quote]Notably, gun violence has a disproportionate impact on racial and ethnic minorities and is highly concentrated in a relatively small number of neighborhoods that have historically been underresourced and racially segregated. This is due to a combination of weak gun laws; systemic racial inequities, including unequal access to safe housing and adequate educational and employment opportunities; and a history of disinvestment in public infrastructure and services in the communities of color most affected by gun violence.


Oh my, systemic racial inequities? Your source presents the cause of gun crime as a symptom of - ahem - racial injustice. You're arguing the cause is inferior levels of pigmentation.

So, what's it going to be?

You saw the source already, shifty clown
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1682115543/6#6

No reference to blacks??  Ard you blind as well as shifty, paki clown?




Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.


So blacks are gunning each other down because of systemic racism by whitey? Like Abos clobbering, raping and traumatising each other coz whitey MAKES them?
Shurely shome mishtake.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:57pm

lee wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm:
In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.


Let's see Greenland - 11  deaths. So small as to be statistically too small for any relevance.


Not with a population of 56,653, dear. That's 0.021%.

Which raises a compelling point: how tinted are they?

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:09pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:19pm:
Mattyfisk, you might be considering that the murders perpetrated in Africa is more to do with using any type of weapon, not just firearms. The Africans hack your arms off and let you bleed to death. They also have a liking to torture you to death.

Edit: And whilst I am at it, I doubt that the figures I have read of the murder rate in sub-Saharan Africa really paints the people there as all that much safer to visit.


That may be, Rocky, but you haven't posted those figures.


Neither have you. Go here for the information.


Quote:
In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.

Correlation not causation, innit.


Greenland has a population of about 60,000. So, if someone commits suicide by firearm, the suicide rate for the whole country is 1.6 per 100,000 people. Therefore, 10 suicides per year would account for that 16 per 100,000 people. Meanwhile, Australia has a suicide rate of about 12 per 100,000. Suicides by firearm in Australia is about 0.7 per 100,000 people in the year 2019. Down from 2.9 per 100,000 in the year 1991. And down from about 1.8 per 100,000 in the year 1997. Source
It is difficult to find latest crime statistics for South Africa. But there were reports that there were 110 murders per 100,000 people in Johannesburg.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:10pm

Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:49pm:
So blacks are gunning each other down because of systemic racism by whitey? Like Abos clobbering, raping and traumatising each other coz whitey MAKES them?
Shurely shome mishtake.


That's exactly what your sources says. And not just that, this:


Quote:
Solutions: In addition to stronger, commonsense gun laws, policymakers must address systemic racial inequities


You're asking for tighter gun restrictions and the erradication of racial inequality?

Look, old boy, don't bite off more than you can chew, okay? Baby steps.

It may not happen overnight, but it will happen, no?

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by lee on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:35pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Not with a population of 56,653, dear. That's 0.021%.


Not statistically significant. ::)

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 10:11pm
Did you consider that in Nuuk, Greenland, seasonal affective disorder comes into play during the winter months? The people there have between 4 to 6 hours of daylight during their winter months. I could not imagine much getting done outdoors in that time of year, even with the sunlight out. But 18 to 20 hours of nighttime would drive people nuts.

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 23rd, 2023 at 2:28am

lee wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Not with a population of 56,653, dear. That's 0.021%.


Not statistically significant. ::)


It is if you're passing through Greenland and feel the urge to top yourself, Lee. Fingers crossed you don't have an MR15 at hand.

You could, of course, stay home and slit your wrists, but it wouldn't be as patriotic, no?

Title: Re: Mass Shootings Happening at Record Pace in US
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 23rd, 2023 at 8:37am


Regardless of race, the catalyst for all firearm homicides
in the US is the overwhelming number of guns.  Rewrite
the 2nd Amendment, and thousands of both black and
white lives will be saved every year.

Oh... and force the dissolution of the NRA too.


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