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Message started by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 3:01pm

Title: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 3:01pm
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/improper-influence-daniel-andrews-government-rocked-by-bombshell-ibac-findings-involving-senior-labor-figures/news-story/ddc66a5ad9a4238fab7f5151f14e8806


The Andrews Govt is corrupt but no one is going to jail - go figure?






'Improper influence': Daniel Andrews government rocked by bombshell IBAC findings involving senior Labor figures.
Premier Daniel Andrews has been rocked by bombshell findings from Victoria’s corruption watchdog implicating some of the most senior figures of the state government.


The Victorian anti-corruption body has found senior Andrews government figures interfered in a contract procurement process to give “favourable treatment” to a Labor aligned union affiliate.

The Independent Broadbased Anti-corruption Commission said it found evidence of “misconduct and improper influence” implicating high-placed figures in the Andrews Government.

IBAC’s Operation Daintree was established to investigate a $1.2 million Department of Health and Human Services contract awarded to a firm linked to the Health Workers Union in 2018.

The investigation found senior advisors to the health minister as well as Premier Daniel Andrews senior staff had
“improperly influenced” the awarding of the contract to the Health Education Federation

for occupational violence and aggression training to health workers.

IBAC uncovered evidence which showed the powerful health union was “given privileged access and favourable treatment in its access” to ministerial offices.


It also found there was a clear conflict between the government’s interests in awarding the contract to the most suitable provider and Labor’s interest in “assisting an affiliated union” which the corruption commission said was “not properly managed or declared”.

“Advisors in the Premier’s Private Office and the Minister for Health’s office also interfered in the management of the HEF contract to obstruct consideration of its termination and to ensure it continued,” IBAC Acting Commissioner Stephen Farrow said in a statement.

“The DHHS awarded the contract to HEF without a competitive procurement process due to senior staff in the department believing it was the minister’s and government’s preference, and because of ongoing pressure from both the Minister for Health’s advisor and Secretary of the union.

“This conduct by senior public servants falls short of the required Victorian public sector standards.”

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 3:03pm
continued:

IBAC has made 17 recommendations
including ensuring ministers have greater responsibility over the actions of their staff as well as improving transparency and accountability in political offices.

The government will have until October 31 to report on the actions it will take in response to IBAC’s recommendations.

In a stunning defence of his government, Mr Andrews said the report made no findings against individuals and pledged to address IBAC’s recommendations through cabinet.

He claimed the watchdog had described the investigation as “educational” and was not about “taking action immediately”, while labelling the report as “out of date”.

“It is not about necessarily responding to calls for action and findings that have been made against anybody, there are no findings against anyone in this report,” Mr Andrews said at a press conference on Wednesday.

The Premier also claimed there were no findings from the report, rather there was a “narrative”, arguing the substance of the report was “commentary”.

“The issues that IBAC raise in very broad sweeping, often undefined terms are picked up in a series of recommendations that have been made and we will look at those recommendations.

“The staff members that are referred to in this report do not work for the government anymore and have not worked for the government for years and as you well know, the two ministers who are referenced in the report are not even members of the parliament any longer.

“Given the educational elements of this, it is not about taking action immediately, it is not about necessarily responding to calls for action and findings that have been made against anybody, there are no findings against anyone in this report.”

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 3:04pm
continued:

The bombshell findings will come as a major blow to the Premier who came under fire during the November election over issues of integrity.

IBAC found there was a significant lack of oversight from ministers which led to the potential for “plausible deniability”.

It also uncovered the Premier had contradicted himself in multiple public statements, in a scathing rebuke of Mr Andrews.

In his evidence to the commission, Mr Andrews said he did not recall what was said during a meeting with HWU Secretary Diana Asmar in 2018 before making the announcement of the project and before the subsequent tender process.

Mr Andrews conceded later his memory was “faulty”.

But IBAC rubbished claims of Mr Andrews’ independence of the decision to award the lucrative contract to HEF.

“It is highly likely that the Premier was informed of the commitment proposal as formulated by his advisors and conveyed the substance of the intended commitment to Ms Asmar when he met her before making the announcement,” the special report said.

“During his examination, the Premier ultimately accepted that he may have done so.”

Operation Daintree is one of four ongoing probes believed to involve Mr Andrews.

The Premier has consistently denied any wrongdoing in relation to the HEF contract or other instances of alleged corruption.

IBAC’s functions and investigations have come under scrutiny and have been compared with its NSW counterpart ICAC amid the debate around a Commonwealth anti-corruption commission.

Before the Albanese government passed legislation for the National Anti-Corruption Commission last year, Scott Morrison had raised concerns that NSW’s ICAC had become a “Kangaroo court”.


Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 3:50pm
Come on -
where's all the Ozpolitic cultural Marxists defending their corrupt champion?    ;D

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 3:54pm


Updated list of Ozpolitic Cultural Marxists:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1660808671/255



LTYC,
FTLW,
Monk,
Smith,
Greggy,
Mothra,
Athos,
AiA,
Jim,
Random,
Marla,
Dnarever.
Brian?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 19th, 2023 at 4:50pm
Zero evidence any of those are Marxists. It is a list of people smarter and better informed than you is all. Somehow it is identical to the list of people you said, without any evidence, of people with ASPD. Ironic considering you are a psychopath. Must be yet another demon made you a psychopath  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 5:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 19th, 2023 at 4:50pm:
Zero evidence any of those are Marxists. It is a list of people smarter and better informed than you is all. Somehow it is identical to the list of people you said, without any evidence, of people with ASPD. Ironic considering you are a psychopath. Must be yet another demon made you a psychopath  ;D ;D ;D



Hi Monk,
do you support Dan?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 19th, 2023 at 5:24pm
What evidence do you have against Dan?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 19th, 2023 at 5:34pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 19th, 2023 at 5:24pm:
What evidence do you have against Dan?



IBAC - 17 findings relating to corruption
including Dan giving his mates contracts with taxpayers money.    :-[

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by lee on Apr 19th, 2023 at 6:00pm
Of course JM could be right... he might just be grossly incompetent. ::)

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 19th, 2023 at 6:02pm
I read what you posted. Nothing there about Dan.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by lee on Apr 19th, 2023 at 6:27pm
Ah the Schultz defence - "I know NUSSING". ;)

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 7:03am
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/peta-credlin/daniel-andrews-wellrehearsed-spin-to-try-and-defend-the-indefensible-amid-ibac-report/video/35a50458e1f8e141f5c64bad701224ee

The Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission



Daniel Andrews’ ‘well-rehearsed spin to try and defend the indefensible’ amid IBAC report

10 hours ago

Sky News host Peta Credlin has called “BS” on Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ “weak excuses” following the release of IBAC’s damning report.

The Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission has revealed it found evidence of “misconduct and improper influence” implicating high-placed figures in the Andrews government.

“Now you can’t tell me that this went on and the Premier sat at his desk only metres away from his senior staff and that he knew nothing,” Ms Credlin said.

“I’ve been in job of advising senior leaders, so I can tell you this is BS – the Premier’s weak excuses today, all of this happened in his office, on his watch, and still he says he didn’t know.

“The Premier’s dissembling today – let’s see it for what it was – it was just well-rehearsed spin to try and defend the indefensible – just more shocking behaviour from a bloke whose own government is now a by-word for corruption.”

Ms Credlin questioned at what point will Victorians say, “enough is enough”.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 20th, 2023 at 7:07am
Credlin has no credibility.

Some people were corrupt—the title of this pointless thread is wrong and defamatory.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 7:16am

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 7:07am:
Credlin has no credibility.

Some people were corrupt—the title of this pointless thread is wrong and defamatory.



The main Ozpolitic cultural Marxist defending his corrupt champion.  tsk  tsk   ::)  ::)

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 20th, 2023 at 7:19am
I am no Marxist you blithering idiot.

I am pointing our what the stuff YOU posted said. And what we know of Credlin.

You REALLY are a pathetic idiot!

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 7:35am
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/peta-credlin/daniel-andrews-wellrehearsed-spin-to-try-and-defend-the-indefensible-amid-ibac-report/video/35a50458e1f8e141f5c64bad701224ee

The Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission



Daniel Andrews’ ‘well-rehearsed spin to try
and defend the indefensible’ amid IBAC report


10 hours ago

Sky News host Peta Credlin has called “BS” on Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ “weak excuses” following the release of IBAC’s damning report.

The Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission has revealed it found evidence of “misconduct and improper influence” implicating high-placed figures in the Andrews government.

“Now you can’t tell me that this went on and the Premier sat at his desk only metres away from his senior staff and that he knew nothing,” Ms Credlin said.

“I’ve been in job of advising senior leaders, so I can tell you this is BS – the Premier’s weak excuses today, all of this happened in his office, on his watch, and still he says he didn’t know.

“The Premier’s dissembling today – let’s see it for what it was – it was just well-rehearsed spin to try and defend the indefensible – just more shocking behaviour from a bloke whose own government is now a by-word for corruption.”

Ms Credlin questioned at what point will Victorians say, “enough is enough”.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 20th, 2023 at 8:39am
Peta Credlin has no credibility.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 8:58am

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 8:39am:
Peta Credlin has no credibility.



quote:


more shocking behaviour from a bloke whose own government
is now a by-word for corruption

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 20th, 2023 at 9:05am
If those had been the words of the corruption commission—deadly. From a Lib shill like Credlin, serial liar, ah who cares, Credlin has no credibility.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by lee on Apr 20th, 2023 at 12:13pm

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:12pm
You haven’t shown he is corrupt.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by John Smith on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:57pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D



Another homosexual comment from our queer cultural Marxist.   :-[

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by John Smith on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1681880488/21#21 date=1681966902]I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D



Another homosexual comment from our queer cultural Marxist.   :-[/quote]


Homosexual? What do you get up to?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:32pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1681880488/21#21 date=1681966902]I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D



Another homosexual comment from our queer cultural Marxist.   :-[/quote]


Homosexual? What do you get up to?



Nothing - what do you and Dan get up to?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by John Smith on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1681880488/21#21 date=1681966902]I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D



Another homosexual comment from our queer cultural Marxist.   :-[/quote]


Homosexual? What do you get up to?



Nothing - what do you and Dan get up to?

.

Why is it that no matter the topic, you ALWAYS think of gay acts first?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 20th, 2023 at 6:29pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D



Another homosexual comment from our queer cultural Marxist.   :-[/quote]


Homosexual? What do you get up to?



Nothing - what do you and Dan get up to?

.

Why is it that no matter the topic, you ALWAYS think of gay acts first?



You started all the gay stuff.   :-[


evidence:
Smith[quote]as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by John Smith on Apr 21st, 2023 at 8:47am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 6:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D



Another homosexual comment from our queer cultural Marxist.   :-[/quote]


Homosexual? What do you get up to?



Nothing - what do you and Dan get up to?

.

Why is it that no matter the topic, you ALWAYS think of gay acts first?



You started all the gay stuff.   :-[


evidence:
Smith[quote]as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting



women have been using glory holes for eons ... why is it your first thought is off gay sex?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Apr 21st, 2023 at 8:59am
Don't try and get out of it now -
you were asking gay questions.    :-[

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 21st, 2023 at 10:44am

John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2023 at 8:47am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 6:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 4:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting :D :D



Another homosexual comment from our queer cultural Marxist.   :-[/quote]


Homosexual? What do you get up to?



Nothing - what do you and Dan get up to?

.

Why is it that no matter the topic, you ALWAYS think of gay acts first?



You started all the gay stuff.   :-[


evidence:
Smith[quote]as if your glory hole conquests discuss politics during your 30 second meeting



women have been using glory holes for eons ... why is it your first thought is off gay sex?


It always is, isn’t it? And when talk is of arses he always thinks of male arses. He is obsessed with homosexuality!

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by lee on Apr 24th, 2023 at 2:08pm

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by philperth2010 on Apr 30th, 2023 at 11:10am

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 7:07am:
Credlin has no credibility.

Some people were corrupt—the title of this pointless thread is wrong and defamatory.


Sky news is the Faux News of Australia....Credlin is a well known liar and sycophant for the alt right reality!!!


Quote:
An anti-corruption investigation has found a Victorian government adviser “improperly influenced” the awarding of a $1.2m contract to a union, with a former minister telling investigators that staff in Daniel Andrews’ office had “tentacles everywhere”.

Jenny Mikakos, the health minister from 2018 to 2020, was one of several witnesses interviewed by the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission as part its investigation into the awarding of the contract to the Health Workers Union.

The investigation, dubbed Operation Daintree, does not make any findings of corruption against Andrews, Mikakos, her predecessor, Jill Hennessy, or staff working in their offices.


::) ::) ::)

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/19/victoria-ibac-ministerial-adviser-union-contract

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by philperth2010 on Apr 30th, 2023 at 11:25am

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 8:39am:
Peta Credlin has no credibility.


Agreed!!!


Quote:
Credlin served as chief of staff to Opposition Leader Tony Abbott from December 2009 until the September 2013 Election, then stayed on in that role after he became Prime Minister. She held that influential job until Malcolm Turnbull replaced Abbott in September 2015.

In opposition, Abbott and Credlin failed to build a team, outline a vision beyond three-word slogans and formulate effective policies. In government, they presided over collapses in Australia’s economy, social cohesion and international reputation. Curiously, Credlin’s bio at IMDb makes no mention of that spectacularly destructive six-year stint as Abbott’s chief enabler as Liberal Party leader.

This analysis does not offer opinions. It records actual outcomes.


https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/peta-credlins-political-opinions-are-worthless,15412


Quote:
Credibility suffers as election coverage lurches into political fantasy, propaganda

Beat-ups, conspiracy theories, relentless pro-Liberal and anti-Labor bias, juvenile name-calling – Dictator Dan, Toxic Dan: these have been the stock-in-trade of the Herald Sun’s coverage of the Victorian state election.

And on Sky after dark, Peta Credlin put together a program called The Cult of Daniel Andrews.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/election-coverage-lurches-into-political-fantasy-propaganda-20221121-p5bzvg.html

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by buzzanddidj on May 5th, 2023 at 6:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 19th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
The Andrews Govt is corrupt but no one is going to jail - go figure?
Daniel Andrews government rocked by "bombshell" IBAC findings involving senior Labor figures.



Obviously not as 'rocked' as members of the "Get Dan" rabble would have HOPED



Victorian election result a triumph for Dan Andrews
and a nightmare for the Liberal Party

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-27/victoria-election-2022-result-triumph-dan-andrews/101702934






.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by buzzanddidj on May 5th, 2023 at 6:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


Primary votes and independent preferences covered well over half the votes in Victorian electorates.

You REALLY need to get OUT more



.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 5th, 2023 at 6:48pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 5th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


Primary votes and independent preferences covered well over half the votes in Victorian electorates.

You REALLY need to get OUT more


.



Never before has Victoria been in so much debt -
we have no human rights either.
Labor is corrupt and their public servants went along for the ride
out of fear for their jobs.
Dan is a dictator and I hope that those who voted for him will live to regret it.


Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by stunspore on May 5th, 2023 at 8:30pm
Strictly speaking, given inflation, debt generally is always higher over time.  Much like soft serves at Maccas were 20cents.
As as long as money is spent on permanent assets, its usually considered "good debt" - not like giving money to businesses to make profits (LNP fed government, "bad debt").

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 5th, 2023 at 8:35pm

stunspore wrote on May 5th, 2023 at 8:30pm:
Strictly speaking, given inflation, debt generally is always higher over time.  Much like soft serves at Maccas were 20cents.
As as long as money is spent on permanent assets, its usually considered "good debt" - not like giving money to businesses to make profits (LNP fed government, "bad debt").







Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 5th, 2023 at 8:36pm



Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 5th, 2023 at 8:39pm


Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by buzzanddidj on May 6th, 2023 at 10:12am

Bobby. wrote on May 5th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 5th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
I don't know anyone who voted for that corrupt clown.


Primary votes and independent preferences covered well over half the votes in Victorian electorates.

You REALLY need to get OUT more


.



Dan is a dictator and I hope that those who voted for him will live to regret it.


Non-Victorians said this on the 2014 state election result.
They said it again, on the 2018 result.
Then again in 2022.

The 2022 win is directly related to his handling of the pandemic.
As was Mark McGowan's win in 2022 - where the Opposition Leader conceded defeat before voting had even commenced.
I see YOUR bloke has got himself in more hot water in Opposition - than any leader could find himself in if in government
Dutton has even threatened to intervene over pro-Nazi, transphobic Liberal members taking legal action against each other

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-06/liberal-party-infighting-deeming-pesutto-crisis/102310906

Presutto has got himself and his party in more hot water than Mathew Guy could only have dreamed of

Australia now has a Federal Labor Government - and Labor Governments in every state and territory on the mainland






Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by stunspore on May 6th, 2023 at 11:44am
Seems like those who dislike Dan is based only on ideology rather than any sound argument.
Not a real surprise.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2023 at 11:51am

stunspore wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 11:44am:
Seems like those who dislike Dan is based only on ideology rather than any sound argument.
Not a real surprise.



Have you read any Books by Karl Marx?    :-[

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on May 6th, 2023 at 2:37pm
So what if he has?

You are an idiot and a troll.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by stunspore on May 6th, 2023 at 4:48pm

Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 11:51am:
[quote author=stunspore link=1681880488/43#43 date=1683337498]Seems like those who dislike Dan is based only on ideology rather than any sound argument.
Not a real surprise.



Have you read any Books by Karl Marx?    :-[/quote]

No.

But if you looked at today's news with Vic LNP, is that seriously an alternate party?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2023 at 5:11pm

stunspore wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 4:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 11:51am:
[quote author=stunspore link=1681880488/43#43 date=1683337498]Seems like those who dislike Dan is based only on ideology rather than any sound argument.
Not a real surprise.



Have you read any Books by Karl Marx?    :-[/quote]

No.

But if you looked at today's news with Vic LNP, is that seriously an alternate party?



No?

OK - you almost made it on to the list of Ozpol cultural Marxists -   phew.   

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on May 6th, 2023 at 5:59pm
So if someone read “Mein Kampf” he is a cultural Hitlerite?

Christ but you are stupid!

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2023 at 6:06pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 5:59pm:
So if someone read “Mein Kampf” he is a cultural Hitlerite?

Christ but you are stupid!



No you fool -
such actions are all signs we can use to deduce facts.
e.g.
Greggy has expensive hard cover versions of 3 of Karl Marx's most well known books
and he keeps them by his bedside.
What does that tell you?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on May 6th, 2023 at 6:12pm
That he has read/reads Karl Marx?

That is about it.

If someone reads “We the living” is he a cultural Randite?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2023 at 6:28pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
That he has read/reads Karl Marx?

That is about it.

If someone reads “We the living” is he a cultural Randite?



You're telling the story?  (commie)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_Living

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on May 6th, 2023 at 6:44pm
If someone reads “We the living” is he a Cultural Randite?

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2023 at 6:47pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 6:44pm:
If someone reads “We the living” is he a Cultural Randite?



Shut up Mr off topic.

Dirty Dan is a Marxist dictator and you support him because you're a cultural Marxist.
You're on the Ozpol list as a possible leader.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Jovial Monk on May 6th, 2023 at 6:49pm
Not the OzPol list, your pathetic list of those more intelligent and better informed than you.

Reading Capital or Communist Manifesto does not mean you are a Marxist. Christ you are stupid.

Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2023 at 6:52pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 6:49pm:
Not the OzPol list, your pathetic list of those more intelligent and better informed than you.

Reading Capital or Communist Manifesto does not mean you are a Marxist. Christ you are stupid.




Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Sophia on Jul 16th, 2023 at 1:58pm
Most of us Victorians knew we were being sold off… does one need to asks why we have a housing crisis/shortage. At one stage I thought overseas investors/buyers were halted? Guess not  ::)
Todays article in Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper.

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Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by stunspore on Jul 16th, 2023 at 8:19pm
Would it have been ok for you if you replace "chinese" with a different country?  "amercians" or something else?

I doubt all these chinese are doing invasion bit by bit - takes too long and quicker to just call out for war.


Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Bobby. on Jul 16th, 2023 at 8:27pm

Does Dan have a hard one for trannies?



Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by Sophia on Jul 17th, 2023 at 12:23pm

stunspore wrote on Jul 16th, 2023 at 8:19pm:
Would it have been ok for you if you replace "chinese" with a different country?  "amercians" or something else?

I doubt all these chinese are doing invasion bit by bit - takes too long and quicker to just call out for war.


Hey, I’m just the messenger showing what the media is reporting, in my own writing I did mention
Overseas investors/buyers… which means all overseas yes?

I do understand why Chinese buy up big wherever they’re allowed to… after being in China and seeing how ordinary one and 2 story residences are being destroyed with families that owned them being displaced and put into high rise apartments to lease only for 70 years. No ownership … except for rich farmers producing food… only they are allowed one to two story houses on the farm premise.
So most will come buy here and then leave those houses empty ….
There is however, higher stamp duties for them to pay I noted in the S/D calculator.

There’s this new message …

NEW! Foreign Buyers Duty - we updated our calculator with Foreign Purchasers additional stamp duty for NSW(8%), VIC(8%), QLD(7%) and WA(7%).

This means more money for the grabberment of course.




Title: Re: Dirty Dan is corrupt - IBAC findings
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jul 17th, 2023 at 12:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2023 at 8:27pm:
Does Dan have a hard one for trannies?




Now now, Bobby, you know Dan only has an erection every 4 years...

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