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Message started by Lisa Jones on Mar 26th, 2023 at 9:49am

Title: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 26th, 2023 at 9:49am
It’s on!

https://www.9news.com.au/national/lisa-wilkinson-will-seek-to-prove-bruce-lehrmann-raped-britany-higgins-in-defence-to-lawsuit/2290e202-8891-40e6-81f8-f01f34f5957a


Wilkinson will seek to prove Lehrmann raped Higgins in defence to lawsuit


Journalist Lisa Wilkinson will argue former Liberal Party staffer Bruce Lehrmann did rape his then-colleague Brittany Higgins in Parliament House, if his lawsuit against her and Channel Ten is allowed to proceed.

Lehrmann is suing for defamation over the interview Wilkinson conducted with Higgins on Ten show The Project on February 15, 2021, in which she alleged she had been raped after a night out with colleagues in 2019.

Although the former Liberal staffer wasn't named in the interview, he argued a series of details listed were enough to identify him to a range of people.

In a lawsuit filed in the Federal Court last month, he claims the article conveyed the meaning he "raped Brittany Higgins in Defence Minister Linda Reynolds' office in 2019" and three other defamatory imputations.

He also claimed the broadcast invited viewers to "speculate" about the identity of the person referred to, and that they had already read or went on to read online articles or social media posts naming Lehrmann.

Lehrmann alleges Ten and Wilkinson were "recklessly indifferent to the truth or falsity" of what they were broadcasting, without giving him a chance to respond.

In a defence published online by the Federal Court of Australia on Tuesday, Wilkinson admitted that if the broadcast identified Lehrmann, it carried the defamatory imputation that he raped Higgins.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 26th, 2023 at 9:56am
Continued:

Lehrmann, who has always denied the allegations and maintained his innocence, is asking the court to extend the limitation period for the defamation case, which is normally one year, until last month when the claim was filed.

Wilkinson's lawyers, who the journalist hired privately instead of using Ten's in-house legal team, sought to block that application.

If the matter is allowed to go ahead, Wilkinson will rely partially on the substantive truth of the rape allegation, according to her defence.

She will argue the imputation that "Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins in Parliament House in 2019" and three other imputations she claims are equal in substance are substantially true.

She will also rely on the defence of statutory qualified privilege.

Wilkinson denied Lehrmann's claims the interview was published in an "over-sensationalised" manner and that he wasn't given a chance to respond.

She said Lehrmann was contacted in the days before the interview through messages to his mobile phone and work and personal emails.

Lehrmann's identity was eventually published by multiple media outlets when he was charged with one count of sexual intercourse without consent.

Lehrmann's criminal trial in the ACT Supreme Court was derailed in October due to juror misconduct and the prosecutor later dropped the charges due to the impacts a second trial would have on Higgins' mental health. Lehrmann always denied the allegations against him.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by PZ547 on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:02pm
Throughout this unsavoury mess, I've remained detached, apart from referring to Higgens as 'pudding face'

So correct me if I'm wrong, but did pudding-face actually claim not to remember the alleged rape or the identity of the person (if one in fact exists) accused?

Is it allowable, under law, to drag the above nonsense into court at cost to the taxpayer?

If a person is so self-admittedly drunk that they could be raped without their awareness and with no knowledge that it even occurred, why did police even entertain the allegations?  Why is anyone entertaining this sordid saga?   It happens for real every night and day.  Up to everyone to take responsibility for themselves and their actions, and that should have been the final word from police and media

Instead, pudding face and the unpopular media figure who shoe-horned her way into the fiasco appear determined to drain it to the dregs

Times have changed.  People are far less concerned about being regarded as sluts now than they are about being considered raycist

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Aussie on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:07pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:02pm:
Throughout this unsavoury mess, I've remained detached, apart from referring to Higgens as 'pudding face'

So correct me if I'm wrong, but did pudding-face actually claim not to remember the alleged rape or the identity of the person (if one in fact exists) accused?

Is it allowable, under law, to drag the above nonsense into court at cost to the taxpayer?

If a person is so self-admittedly drunk that they could be raped without their awareness and with no knowledge that it even occurred, why did police even entertain the allegations?  Why is anyone entertaining this sordid saga?   It happens for real every night and day.  Up to everyone to take responsibility for themselves and their actions, and that should have been the final word from police and media

Instead, pudding face and the unpopular media figure who shoe-horned her way into the fiasco appear determined to drain it to the dregs

Times have changed.  People are far less concerned about being regarded as sluts now than they are about being considered raycist


Totally incorrect!

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by PZ547 on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:09pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:07pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:02pm:
Throughout this unsavoury mess, I've remained detached, apart from referring to Higgens as 'pudding face'

So correct me if I'm wrong, but did pudding-face actually claim not to remember the alleged rape or the identity of the person (if one in fact exists) accused?

Is it allowable, under law, to drag the above nonsense into court at cost to the taxpayer?

If a person is so self-admittedly drunk that they could be raped without their awareness and with no knowledge that it even occurred, why did police even entertain the allegations?  Why is anyone entertaining this sordid saga?   It happens for real every night and day.  Up to everyone to take responsibility for themselves and their actions, and that should have been the final word from police and media

Instead, pudding face and the unpopular media figure who shoe-horned her way into the fiasco appear determined to drain it to the dregs

Times have changed.  People are far less concerned about being regarded as sluts now than they are about being considered raycist


Totally incorrect!



Which part?

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Aussie on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by PZ547 on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:44pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'



Care to expand?

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:53pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'



Care to expand?


Here is a summary mate!!!


Quote:
In the first interview with police recorded in February 2021 and played to the court on Wednesday, Higgins told police she regained consciousness inside the office of her then boss, the former defence minister Linda Reynolds, to find Lehrmann on top of her.

“I told him no. I told him to stop,” she said in the interview.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/05/bruce-lehrmann-trial-brittany-higgins-told-police-she-felt-trapped-during-alleged

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Xavier on Mar 26th, 2023 at 2:58pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'



Care to expand?

Aussie can never expand on anything.
He can't even expand a PA Forum.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Aussie on Mar 26th, 2023 at 3:51pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'



Care to expand?


Jayzuz...there are only a zillion Threads where this entire matter from go to whoa has been done to death.

Stuffed if I am going to jump to attention and inform AlphabetNumbers about an issue which has already been the subject of so much very lengthy debate here.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Xavier on Mar 26th, 2023 at 3:53pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 3:51pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'



Care to expand?


Jayzuz...there are only a zillion Threads where this entire matter from go to whoa has been done to death.

Stuffed if I am going to jump to attention and inform AlphabetNumbers about an issue which has already been the subject of so much very lengthy debate here.

Well you expect that of everyone else Bill 'Aussie' Hunter. ::)

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Aussie on Mar 26th, 2023 at 3:54pm
No....I am well aware of just about everything going on around the place.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by PZ547 on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:23pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 3:51pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'



Care to expand?


Jayzuz...there are only a zillion Threads where this entire matter from go to whoa has been done to death.

Stuffed if I am going to jump to attention and inform AlphabetNumbers about an issue which has already been the subject of so much very lengthy debate here.


Well ok, although in fairness I didn't ask you to jump to attention or to respond

it's been going on for a while and has been hard to avoid with the media using it to plug the hole left by the departure of the hoax covid

so -- glancing through the fake 'news' in my feed, I read -- and only from the supposed 'better' news reports, that pudding face wasn't sure she'd been raped, or who allegedly raped her.  According to the news reports she didn't report it immediately or summon police who would surely have used a rape-kit to determine (1) if she'd been raped and (2) the identity of the alleged rapist

Those who briefly read the news reports might well have noted the same thing

Not to be sarcastic -- it didn't occur to me to read the ozpol analyses

There were other sex scandals in the news around the same time --  must have been the post hoax covid season for it

I don't really care, Aussie.  I may as well set the world on fire by stating that I don't see the big deal re: casual rape of overpaid, generally pointless Canberra hangers on.  I mean, an individual allows themselves to be reduced to a lump of flesh by alcohol, then they flop around the workplace after hours unable to defend themselves whilst simultaneously rendering themselves sexually available to anyone passing by, and later on they see an opportunity to gain notoriety and cash -- and expect me or anyone else to sympathise? 

A grown woman can easily accommodate the average penis without injury, fact.  And if the woman wasn't aware she was raped or even who the rapist might be, it would be in her own best interests to clean up and shut up before her employer showed her the door

Not sure I'd want to employ any women after the last few years.  Maybe it's best it they returned to the kitchen

Woman are becoming as much of a problem as the Abos

They want menstruation leave
Menapause leave
Parenting leave
Paid child care
Neurotic leave

and at the end of the day, after contributing not much in the workplace, they believe they're entitled to get drunk at office parties and afterwards flood the nation with claims they think they might have been raped/and or had office sex while drunk and want someone (not themselves of course) to 'pay'

Then they coerce useless governments into giving them half the available jobs

Ever look at the comments in news reports?  Almost all give the big thumbs down to women in the workplace, women in politics, trans women everywhere, etc

And most of the comments are from --- women.  Conclusion:  women are tired of moaning, demanding women

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Aussie on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:39pm
Wow!!!!  Just....wow!!!!!

Go start a Thread in Relationships titled "Why do women complain about being raped" and see how you go?

:o

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:50pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:39pm:
Wow!!!!  Just....wow!!!!!

Go start a Thread in Relationships titled "Why do women complain about being raped" and see how you go?

:o


The implication is that you think Brittany was raped. The reality is that it is likely she was not raped.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by John Smith on Mar 26th, 2023 at 5:35pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:09pm:
Which part?



What part of t'otally ' was difficult?

Leeman wants to sue he can't hide from questioning like he did previously.  Stupid carrnt should have taken his win and moved on.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 26th, 2023 at 9:30pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:39pm:
Wow!!!!  Just....wow!!!!!

Go start a Thread in Relationships titled "Why do women complain about being raped" and see how you go?

:o


The implication is that you think Brittany was raped. The reality is that it is likely she was not raped.


The actual reality is this : we don’t know.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 26th, 2023 at 9:32pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 3:51pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
Each part.....'totally incorrect.'



Care to expand?


Jayzuz...there are only a zillion Threads where this entire matter from go to whoa has been done to death.

Stuffed if I am going to jump to attention and inform AlphabetNumbers about an issue which has already been the subject of so much very lengthy debate here.


Well ok, although in fairness I didn't ask you to jump to attention or to respond

it's been going on for a while and has been hard to avoid with the media using it to plug the hole left by the departure of the hoax covid

so -- glancing through the fake 'news' in my feed, I read -- and only from the supposed 'better' news reports, that pudding face wasn't sure she'd been raped, or who allegedly raped her.  According to the news reports she didn't report it immediately or summon police who would surely have used a rape-kit to determine (1) if she'd been raped and (2) the identity of the alleged rapist

Those who briefly read the news reports might well have noted the same thing

Not to be sarcastic -- it didn't occur to me to read the ozpol analyses

There were other sex scandals in the news around the same time --  must have been the post hoax covid season for it

I don't really care, Aussie.  I may as well set the world on fire by stating that I don't see the big deal re: casual rape of overpaid, generally pointless Canberra hangers on.  I mean, an individual allows themselves to be reduced to a lump of flesh by alcohol, then they flop around the workplace after hours unable to defend themselves whilst simultaneously rendering themselves sexually available to anyone passing by, and later on they see an opportunity to gain notoriety and cash -- and expect me or anyone else to sympathise? 

A grown woman can easily accommodate the average penis without injury, fact.  And if the woman wasn't aware she was raped or even who the rapist might be, it would be in her own best interests to clean up and shut up before her employer showed her the door

Not sure I'd want to employ any women after the last few years.  Maybe it's best it they returned to the kitchen

Woman are becoming as much of a problem as the Abos

They want menstruation leave
Menapause leave
Parenting leave
Paid child care
Neurotic leave

and at the end of the day, after contributing not much in the workplace, they believe they're entitled to get drunk at office parties and afterwards flood the nation with claims they think they might have been raped/and or had office sex while drunk and want someone (not themselves of course) to 'pay'

Then they coerce useless governments into giving them half the available jobs

Ever look at the comments in news reports?  Almost all give the big thumbs down to women in the workplace, women in politics, trans women everywhere, etc

And most of the comments are from --- women.  Conclusion:  women are tired of moaning, demanding women


😳 👈 totally gobsmacked & speechless

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 26th, 2023 at 10:00pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 9:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:39pm:
Wow!!!!  Just....wow!!!!!

Go start a Thread in Relationships titled "Why do women complain about being raped" and see how you go?

:o


The implication is that you think Brittany was raped. The reality is that it is likely she was not raped.


The actual reality is this : we don’t know.


The actual reality is that she was likely not raped, based on her lack of informing police in a timely matter.

Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 26th, 2023 at 10:14pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 10:00pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 9:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2023 at 4:39pm:
Wow!!!!  Just....wow!!!!!

Go start a Thread in Relationships titled "Why do women complain about being raped" and see how you go?

:o


The implication is that you think Brittany was raped. The reality is that it is likely she was not raped.


The actual reality is this : we don’t know.


The actual reality is that she was likely not raped, based on her lack of informing police in a timely matter.


The actual reality is this : we don’t know. And that includes Brittany herself  (who was so intoxicated after 12 drinks .... it’s a wonder she never ended up in the Emergency Room of the nearest hospital).

As regards Bruce <—-he himself was pissed.

See what alcohol does?

1. It causes people to NOT remember wtf they’ve done

and

2. It causes innocent taxpayers to pay millions of dollars on legal fees plus compensation to those in 1.




Title: Re: Bruce Lehrmann vs Lisa Wilkinson
Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 26th, 2023 at 11:20pm
I reckon last week, I had more alcohol in the space of 6 hours than Brittany would have had all night. She might well have been drunk, but not as inebriated as I was. I had to go lay in bed for a power nap before I could get back up and return to my computer game. Probably for the better, I slept 6 hours and got back up at daybreak to see what had happened the night before. I remember most of it in vivid detail.

If Brittany was staggering around like a drunken yobbo, I could imagine that her impairment would have meant that she was not capable of driving for some hours after. But, I bet if she was lucid enough to go lay on a couch to sleep off her drunkenness, she would have been capable of waking to her co-worker (that looked like her significant other) and consented (non-verbally) through a lack of fighting Bruce off. Bruce would have had defensive wounds, had he been a rapist of Brittany.

I have had surgery where I was given an anesthetic to put me to sleep for the surgery. Even whilst asleep, I was aware of the surgens cutting into my skin to a point that they had noticed me groaning. So, they had to give me more to put me well unconscious. I bet Brittany was not that drunk that she could not have objected to the sex.

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