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Message started by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:05am

Title: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:05am

Quote:
Former US president Donald Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday - calls for protests

Mr Trump said in a post on his Truth Social network on Saturday that "illegal leaks" from the district attorney's office indicated that he would be taken into custody next week.

"Illegal leaks from a corrupt & highly political Manhattan district attorney's office … indicate that, with no crime being able to be proven … the far & away leading Republican candidate & former president of the United States of America, will be arrested on Tuesday of next week," he wrote.

"Protest, take our nation back!"

He did not say what the charges would be.

A spokesperson for the district attorney's office declined to comment.

Mr Trump's lawyer, Susan Necheles, told CBS News that his post was "based on media reports".

"Since this is a political prosecution, the district attorney's office has engaged in a practice of leaking everything to the press, rather than communicating with President Trump's attorneys as would be done in a normal case," she said.

In his postings, he repeated the false claim that the 2020 presidential election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden was stolen.

Law enforcement officials in New York have been making security preparations for the possibility that Mr Trump could be indicted.

There has been no public announcement of any time frame for the grand jury's secret work in the case, including any potential vote on whether to indict the ex-president.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-19/former-us-president-donald-trump-says-he-will-get-arrested/102116006

Nothing to see here, leftards.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:28am
A felony, clear evidence, even a tape and a confession:


Quote:
The district attorney’s office has been investigating a payment that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election for her to remain silent about an affair she had with Trump. Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to a campaign finance violation stemming from the payment and other charges and served a prison sentence.

Cohen has said he paid Daniels at Trump’s direction. Trump has acknowledged that he reimbursed Cohen for the payment but said it was unrelated to his campaign finances.


And the party of law and order stand back and stand by:


Quote:
Top Trump allies have joined McCarthy in denouncing the probe as politically motivated and siding with the former president, who has insisted he has not done anything wrong.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) tweeted that Trump will “win even bigger” than he already was already going to if Bragg indicts him and “did nothing wrong.” She said any Republicans who support the former president’s “persecution” will face consequences.

“And those Republicans that stand by and cheer for his persecution or do nothing to stop it will be exposed to the people and will be remembered, scorned, and punished by the base,” Greene said.

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) said he has been asked multiple times if Trump being indicted would cause him to take away his endorsement of Trump in the 2024 presidential election. Trump endorsed Vance while he was running in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat in Ohio.

“The answer is: hell no. A politically motivated prosecution makes the argument for Trump stronger. We simply don’t have a real country if justice depends on politics,” Vance said.

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), the chairwoman of the House Republican Conference, said in a statement that the “Radical Left” will have Trump arrested because they know they cannot defeat him in an election. She said this is “unAmerican” and reaching a “dangerous new low of Third World countries.”

“What these corrupt Leftist prosecutors like Alvin Bragg and their Socialist allies fail to understand is that America First Patriots have never been so energized to exercise their constitutional rights to peacefully organize and VOTE at the ballot box to save our great republic,” she said.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3906624-republican-lawmakers-blast-potential-trump-indictment-as-politically-motivated-abuse-of-power/

Mike did three years for that crime. Dear Leader gave the order. And now, he's going down.

The American dream is dead.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by wombatwoody on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:33am
Rudy Giuliani: Trump Hunt a 'Violation of Due Process'

The potential indictment of former President Donald Trump is eventually "going to be dismissed" and the attempt by George Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is going to backfire, according to former Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

"Sometimes the prosecution can stink so bad, it just has to be dismissed; basically it's a violation of due process — to be a little more legal about it," Giuliani said.

"Prosecutors have come out against this, and said, 'Hey, don't do this: This will get him elected president,'" Giuliani added. "This is such a miscarriage of justice, it'll get him elected president."

Giuliani denounced the restarted effort of the "zombie" case to find a crime in Trump's hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels, noting the case has been dropped federally and is a mere misdemeanor locally in New York City.

"Well, this would be the final affirmation that this very storied, illustrious district attorney's office has become nothing more than a steep place in an authoritarian state," Giuliani said. "This is a completely political prosecution. It has zero to do with the law — zero.

"This is not a violation of any law, anywhere," Giuliani continued. "First of all, it was investigated by the U.S. attorney's office; and the reason they dropped this case, among others is they declared [former Trump attorney Michael] Cohen completely incredible. They wouldn't support him in front of a federal court."

Giuliani noted Cohen has been convicted and is a known "liar," so using him in the case imperils it.

"I would guarantee you, you give me two hours with this guy on the witness stand and he'll come off crying and wetting his pants," Giuliani said. "He is not just the usual liar. He's the kind of liar that's declared by a federal prosecutor: You can't use him; he's toxic.

"He's toxic not only to the case but to the reputation of the district attorney's office."

Ultimately, the indictment of Trump by Bragg is an indictment of the Democratic Party rule in America, Giuliani concluded.

"This is a great illustration of what's wrong with Biden's Democrat Party," he said. "Bragg isn't just in New York. Soros put about 50 of these people all over America. These are people who dismissed all the cases against the rioters who kill people."

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by wombatwoody on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:35am
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Our nation is now third world & dying. The American Dream is dead! The radical left anarchists have stolen our presidential election, and with it, the heart of our our country. American patriots are being arrested & held in captivity like animals, while criminals & leftist thugs are allowed to roam the streets, killing & burning with no retribution. millions are flooding through our open borders, many from prisons & mental institutions. Crime & inflation are destroying our very way of life...

Now illegal leaks from a corrupt & highly political Manhattan district attorneys office, which has
allowed new records to be set in violent crime & whose leader is funded by George Soros, indicate
that, with no crime being able to be proven, & based on an old & fully debunked (by numerous other prosecutors!) fairytale, the far & away leading Republican candidate & Former President of the United States Of America, will be arrested on Tuesday of next week. Protest, take our nation back!

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:01am
This is great! Ol' orange F A T T Y wants more of his hive minded idiots to go to prison for him.

Hopefully, law enforcement will do the right thing and gun them down in the streets.

Save a boatload of taxpayer money

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:08am

Marla wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:01am:
This is great! Ol' orange F A T T Y wants more of his hive minded idiots to go to prison for him. 


And they're stupid enough to do it.

Looks like the US will have to build more prisons just to hold the Trump terrorists.

Will we get to see Trump's perp walk on TV?   :)


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:29am
Of course they're stupid enough to do it. Since law enforcement in this country is so trigger happy it appears that ol' orange F A T T Y will have no problem supplying them with an unlimited amount of (human) targets.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:43am

Marla wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:29am:
Of course they're stupid enough to do it. Since law enforcement in this country is so trigger happy it appears that ol' orange F A T T Y will have no problem supplying them with an unlimited amount of (human) targets.


Oh well, no great loss I guess.



It's not like they contribute anything worthwhile to society.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:47am
Like I told you they are hive-minded parasites.

If law enforcement guns 100s if not thousands of them down, I'll cry tears of joy.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:51am

Marla wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:47am:
Like I told you they are hive-minded parasites.

If law enforcement guns 100s if not thousands of them down, I'll cry tears of joy.


Maybe Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani can lead the protest out on the streets.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:57am
Listen here - all you hicks:

So Trump won't get away with it huh?
How many times has he heard that from dumb coppers he couldn't count.

You still say it?

You'd give your left eye to nail Trump wouldn't you? You can see the headlines can't you?
'Local Ozpolitian puts Trump behind bars'.
Your picture'd be in all the papers. You might even get to tell on the newsreels how you pulled if off, yeah.

Listen you hicks, Trump was too much for any big city police force to handle.
They tried but they couldn't -
It took the United States Government to pin a rap on him.
Yeah and they won't make it stick.

Why you hicks, Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before any of you ever get a ten buck raise.
Yeah - how many of those guys in office owe everything to Trump?
he made them -
yeah he made them just like a tailor makes a suit of clothes -
He takes a nobody see - teaches him what to say - get his name in the paper -
pay for his campaign expenses -
dish out a lot of groceries and coal -
gets his boys to bring the voters out -
and then count the votes over and over again till they added up right and he was elected.
And what happened  - did he remember when the going got tough -
when the heat was on - no he didn't wanna -
all he wanted was to save his own dirty neck -

public enemy they call him -
Trump who gave him his public all wrapped up with a fancy bow on it.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:02am
Shut the f-k up, Blooby.


Get off line and look for employment

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:18am

Marla wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:02am:
Shut the f-k up, Blooby.


Get off line and look for employment



Marla,
Stop smoking pot - get yourself straight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohf52vAPszM

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:20am
The year is 2040 and Biden, Nancy, Harris and Hillary jump for joy in the Courthouse.

They have finally achieved their lifelong goal of putting Trump behind bars.

Trump was sentenced for 2 weeks for stealing an icecream off Joe.

The judge commented for the Media. "Never have I ever seen such a atrocious act of a sly red fox jumping over a sleeping dog!" >:( "may he rot in jail").

The charges for being a Thief of Washington plagiarism of their Thief of Baghdad story has been dropped by Disney against Trump who cited that 101 nights with Melania more than made up for everything. ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:12am
Rudi Guliani should know that the reason Trump was not prosecuted was because he was a sitting President....The U.S. Justice Department has a decades-old policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted....Rudi should also know that prosecutors often use convicted criminals to testify against co-conspirators in many crimes where evidence supports a prosecution....Rudi is either stupid or deliberatly lying to protect Donald Trump!!!


Quote:
After the 'spanking' Daniels claims Trump 'quit talking about himself.

She said: 'He asked me things and I asked him things and it just became like you know more appropriate.'

'He was like, 'Wow, you— you are special. You remind me of my daughter,''' she said.

'He was like, 'You're smart and beautiful, and a woman to be reckoned with, and I like you. I like you.'''


::) ::) ::)

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11876281/The-porn-star-Trump-bars-Stormy-Daniels-says-generic-sex-Trump.html

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:35am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:12am:
....Rudi is either stupid or deliberately lying to protect Donald Trump!!!


He's both.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 1:43pm

waggawoody wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:33am:
Rudy Giuliani: Trump Hunt a 'Violation of Due Process'

The potential indictment of former President Donald Trump is eventually "going to be dismissed" and the attempt by George Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is going to backfire, according to former Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

"Sometimes the prosecution can stink so bad, it just has to be dismissed; basically it's a violation of due process — to be a little more legal about it," Giuliani said.

"Prosecutors have come out against this, and said, 'Hey, don't do this: This will get him elected president,'" Giuliani added. "This is such a miscarriage of justice, it'll get him elected president."

Giuliani denounced the restarted effort of the "zombie" case to find a crime in Trump's hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels, noting the case has been dropped federally and is a mere misdemeanor locally in New York City.

"Well, this would be the final affirmation that this very storied, illustrious district attorney's office has become nothing more than a steep place in an authoritarian state," Giuliani said. "This is a completely political prosecution. It has zero to do with the law — zero.

"This is not a violation of any law, anywhere," Giuliani continued. "First of all, it was investigated by the U.S. attorney's office; and the reason they dropped this case, among others is they declared [former Trump attorney Michael] Cohen completely incredible. They wouldn't support him in front of a federal court."

Giuliani noted Cohen has been convicted and is a known "liar," so using him in the case imperils it.

"I would guarantee you, you give me two hours with this guy on the witness stand and he'll come off crying and wetting his pants," Giuliani said. "He is not just the usual liar. He's the kind of liar that's declared by a federal prosecutor: You can't use him; he's toxic.

"He's toxic not only to the case but to the reputation of the district attorney's office."

Ultimately, the indictment of Trump by Bragg is an indictment of the Democratic Party rule in America, Giuliani concluded.

"This is a great illustration of what's wrong with Biden's Democrat Party," he said. "Bragg isn't just in New York. Soros put about 50 of these people all over America. These are people who dismissed all the cases against the rioters who kill people."


The reason the feds didn't press charges is Dear Leader was in the White House at the time.

Mike lied when defending his boss, Mr Trump. Dear Leader admitted he repaid said hush money back to Mike.

Election fraud is not a misdemeanour. Mike did three years for carrying out his boss' orders.

The only one potentially wetting his pants on the witness stand is your Dear Leader, who refused to appear before the grand jury.

Giuliani can't cross examine any witnesses on the stand. He's been disbarred by the New York bar association for pressing false claims.

It would be a violation of due process if New York did not charge Mr Trump. His employee has done time for doing his bidding.

Corrupt, third world countries are traditionally known for letting the rich and powerful off - not New York. They're going after the big fish.

Your Dear Leader crying foul and playing the victim is the real political process at play here. He even claims it will get him elected prez.

A grand jury will make the decision to indict, not prosecutors. That's why your Dear Leader's stewing until Tuesday, when a jury of Mr Trump's peers will make the call.

The only defense Mr Trump has is whether the bribes he made were motivated by winning the election or saving his marriage. The case will come down to this, not the political bias of prosecutors, who are merely doing their job of prosecuting crime.

You'll note Giuliani is not claiming any innocence on behalf of his client. If we're talking lies,

Trump will go down. His legal team are already planning their appeal to a friendly court.

Trump, as is his bent, is hoping to create as much social unrest out of this as he can. Get him elected prez?

How many mainstream Republicans are going to select a candidate facing jail time?

That's a question. The Trump base most certainly will. The question for the GOP is how many of its voters still believe in the rule of law.

You?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 2:20pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

waggawoody wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:33am:
Rudy Giuliani: Trump Hunt a 'Violation of Due Process'

The potential indictment of former President Donald Trump is eventually "going to be dismissed" and the attempt by George Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is going to backfire, according to former Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

"Sometimes the prosecution can stink so bad, it just has to be dismissed; basically it's a violation of due process — to be a little more legal about it," Giuliani said.

"Prosecutors have come out against this, and said, 'Hey, don't do this: This will get him elected president,'" Giuliani added. "This is such a miscarriage of justice, it'll get him elected president."

Giuliani denounced the restarted effort of the "zombie" case to find a crime in Trump's hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels, noting the case has been dropped federally and is a mere misdemeanor locally in New York City.

"Well, this would be the final affirmation that this very storied, illustrious district attorney's office has become nothing more than a steep place in an authoritarian state," Giuliani said. "This is a completely political prosecution. It has zero to do with the law — zero.

"This is not a violation of any law, anywhere," Giuliani continued. "First of all, it was investigated by the U.S. attorney's office; and the reason they dropped this case, among others is they declared [former Trump attorney Michael] Cohen completely incredible. They wouldn't support him in front of a federal court."

Giuliani noted Cohen has been convicted and is a known "liar," so using him in the case imperils it.

"I would guarantee you, you give me two hours with this guy on the witness stand and he'll come off crying and wetting his pants," Giuliani said. "He is not just the usual liar. He's the kind of liar that's declared by a federal prosecutor: You can't use him; he's toxic.

"He's toxic not only to the case but to the reputation of the district attorney's office."

Ultimately, the indictment of Trump by Bragg is an indictment of the Democratic Party rule in America, Giuliani concluded.

"This is a great illustration of what's wrong with Biden's Democrat Party," he said. "Bragg isn't just in New York. Soros put about 50 of these people all over America. These are people who dismissed all the cases against the rioters who kill people."


The reason the feds didn't press charges is Dear Leader was in the White House at the time.

Mike lied when defending his boss, Mr Trump. Dear Leader admitted he repaid said hush money back to Mike.

Election fraud is not a misdemeanour. Mike did three years for carrying out his boss' orders.

The only one potentially wetting his pants on the witness stand is your Dear Leader, who refused to appear before the grand jury.

Giuliani can't cross examine any witnesses on the stand. He's been disbarred by the New York bar association for pressing false claims.

It would be a violation of due process if New York did not charge Mr Trump. His employee has done time for doing his bidding.

Corrupt, third world countries are traditionally known for letting the rich and powerful off - not New York. They're going after the big fish.

Your Dear Leader crying foul and playing the victim is the real political process at play here. He even claims it will get him elected prez.

A grand jury will make the decision to indict, not prosecutors. That's why your Dear Leader's stewing until Tuesday, when a jury of Mr Trump's peers will make the call.

The only defense Mr Trump has is whether the bribes he made were motivated by winning the election or saving his marriage. The case will come down to this, not the political bias of prosecutors, who are merely doing their job of prosecuting crime.

You'll note Giuliani is not claiming any innocence on behalf of his client. If we're talking lies,

Trump will go down. His legal team are already planning their appeal to a friendly court.

Trump, as is his bent, is hoping to create as much social unrest out of this as he can. Get him elected prez?

How many mainstream Republicans are going to select a candidate facing jail time?

That's a question. The Trump base most certainly will. The question for the GOP is how many of its voters still believe in the rule of law.

You?


It's little wonder that Rudy - "I thought it was the Four Seasons Hotel?" - Giuliani has been barred from practising law in New York.

He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

Looking forward to the perp walk   :)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:05pm
It'll be a most restrained perp-walk, Greggery.

Dear Leader will get out of a black SUV, surrounded by Secret Service agents, and head in the back door for processing.

Oh, he'll threaten a big speech on the front steps of the Manhattan DA's office, but his lawyers will prevent him from putting his foot in his mouth.

Alas, Bonfire of the Vanities this will not be. Dear Leader will get a closed court and a lengthy appeals process. His lawyers will be fighting these charges well after the 2024 erection.

What they'll do, however, is put the heat on Georgia to press their charges. Then there's the federal case. Dear Leader will be in courtrooms for the rest of his years.

How this plays is a question for the GOP. How are the primary debates going to go with a candidate in in criminal court? Will the candidates pull their punches? Trump's future is political.

A comeback under conditions like this is looking more and more unlikely. I can't see the independents voting in a candidate facing serious jail time, but I can't see them voting in an 80 year old either. The Dems need to pave the way for some new blood.

If this happens, Dear Leader will look just like the aging, celebrity playboy criminal we've always known he is. If it doesn't, 2024 will just be a battle of the geriatrics.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm

Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?


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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:27pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.


Because he was a sitting President.

But now, the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist is no longer a sitting President.

Moreover, his lawyer was convicted of the same offence and went to prison for it.

How do you think this will turn out for the failed ex-president?   ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:28pm
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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:29pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.


Becasue he was a sitting President.

But now, the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist is no longer a sitting President.

Moreover, his lawyer was convicted of the same offence and went to prison for it.

How do you think this will turn out for the failed ex-president?   ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?



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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:51pm
the big fella would be loving the prospect.

he joins esteemed company

ghandi
mandela
johny cash
muhamed ali
50 cent

it all adds to the mythology of this extraordinary man

gweg and matty look on in awe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THBu7SNhU5c

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:51pm:
the big fella would be loving the prospect.

he joins esteemed company

ghandi
mandela
johny cash
muhamed ali
50 cent[/media]


All of whom porked a porn star while their wives were 8 months pregnant, paid her $150,000 to shut her up, then watched on as their lawyers did three years for handing over the cash.

You're right, dear, the big fella's in esteemed company there. He was so kind to his lawyer for taking the rap too. I believe Mike was offered counselling.

You?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?


Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:08pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?


Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?


Stormy lost the defamtion case then she also lost the appeal.



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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.


Becasue he was a sitting President.

But now, the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist is no longer a sitting President.

Moreover, his lawyer was convicted of the same offence and went to prison for it.

How do you think this will turn out for the failed ex-president?   ;)


Baron says he'll make a buck out of it, Greggery, and rightly so.

So unfair of Stormy to write a book about Mr Trump's dick. The woman should pay for that. And Mr Trump?

He should be put back in the White House and do it all again.

Baron's always stood up for the rule of law, dear.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:12pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?


Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?


Stormy lost the defamtion case then she also lost the appeal.


That's right. She had a non-disclosure agreement, no?

You're a real stickler for the rules, Baron. If there's one thing you won't abide, it's illegality of any kind. You stand for due process, truth, justice and the American way.

Mr Trump deserves his day in court, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 5:31pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:09pm:


So unfair of Stormy to write a book about Mr Trump's dick.


A real page-turner.



(Life-size photos included)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 5:37pm
Listen here - all you hicks:

So Trump won't get away with it huh?
How many times has he heard that from dumb coppers he couldn't count.

You still say it?

You'd give your left eye to nail Trump wouldn't you? You can see the headlines can't you?
'Local Ozpolitian puts Trump behind bars'.
Your picture'd be in all the papers. You might even get to tell on the newsreels how you pulled if off, yeah.

Listen you hicks, Trump was too much for any big city police force to handle.
They tried but they couldn't -
It took the United States Government to pin a rap on him.
Yeah and they won't make it stick.

Why you hicks, Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before any of you ever get a ten buck raise.
Yeah - how many of those guys in office owe everything to Trump?
he made them -
yeah he made them just like a tailor makes a suit of clothes -
He takes a nobody see - teaches him what to say - get his name in the paper -
pay for his campaign expenses -
dish out a lot of groceries and coal -
gets his boys to bring the voters out -
and then count the votes over and over again till they added up right and he was elected.
And what happened  - did he remember when the going got tough -
when the heat was on - no he didn't wanna -
all he wanted was to save his own dirty neck -

public enemy they call him -
Trump who gave him his public all wrapped up with a fancy bow on it.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 5:37pm:
Listen here - all you hicks:

So Trump won't get away with it huh?


Ah.

So you admit he's committed a crime?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:21pm

waggawoody wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:35am:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Our nation is now third world & dying. The American Dream is dead! The radical left anarchists have stolen our presidential election, and with it, the heart of our our country. American patriots are being arrested & held in captivity like animals, while criminals & leftist thugs are allowed to roam the streets, killing & burning with no retribution. millions are flooding through our open borders, many from prisons & mental institutions. Crime & inflation are destroying our very way of life...

Now illegal leaks from a corrupt & highly political Manhattan district attorneys office, which has
allowed new records to be set in violent crime & whose leader is funded by George Soros, indicate
that, with no crime being able to be proven, & based on an old & fully debunked (by numerous other prosecutors!) fairytale, the far & away leading Republican candidate & Former President of the United States Of America, will be arrested on Tuesday of next week. Protest, take our nation back!

Explains why the Media is only interested in overseas Ukraine as a nice excuse for a distraction from other things in America. Of course there is the Corruption Assange exposed which allowed Trump some justification. Both attacked by the Democrats as they try to shove them both under their rug to be gaoled and forgotten - to make the Democrats look good again. Trump is also a good excuse to distract away from anything else going wrong in America.
The Media seems unwilling to focus on its own country for fear that Biden's term hasn't been as great as Trumps, as they fabricate it to be. If it was, why do the Democrats want to shaft Biden for the next Election?

Germany's involvement in Politics supernovaed as Nazism.
Soon it's France's turn to give up the Colonisational Political power it has.
Then it's Italy's turn - the Mafia and Vatican gold, not 'god'.
The Media is Italy's real weapon of mass destruction - especially in the New Worlds of N.America, S.America and here in Australia. It will undermine anything 'British' here - hence why it's Media 'celebrities' cried for another Republic push upon the Queens death. All 'anti-British' here.

Italy, like German and France - is not the true Political Nation. Britain is. Seems Italy has been running America for so long, especially since the advent of the Media and its propaganda movies. It's anti-religion agenda and more.

Make no mistake. The Democrats are nothing more than a fake-political extension of the Media and it's Mafia ways.

They'll bury Assange and Trump. Such is the 'power' they've still got. But Assange & Trump have at least exposed a 'soft spot' in the greedy Italian Mafia/Vatican Dragon.

...my money is on a little red ranga saxon American will expose more on the Democrats and their corruption. With a tall blonde Anglo American to rise like an Angel and watch the Democrats self-destruct by its own hand, once and for all.


The Grey South 'Redneck' Confederacy (Germany in Europe) was held accountable for its 'Domestic' crime in America via a Civil War.
The Blue North 'Gay' Democrats (France in Europe) should be held accountable for its 'International' crimes for America via Suicide.
The Media (Italy in Europe) is bringing discord and corruption to the New Worlds of N.America, S.America and Sahul (Aust/Melanesia) from its sleezy Epstein/Maxwell-like island resorts in Oceania.

What's going on in America?
Who knows, the Media is making sure no-one knows.

As Religion from the Middle-East kept Africa in the dark (continent). So too is the Media from Oceania keeping Americans in the dark. The same Media that claims that 'Americans are all dumb' (and primitive) outside of its Media existence.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 5:37pm:
Listen here - all you hicks:

So Trump won't get away with it huh?


Ah.

So you admit he's committed a crime?



of course he did but he's Trump -

he will always get away with it.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:32pm
If Trump goes to Gaol.
Assange will become President.  ;) :D ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:37pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:32pm:
If Trump goes to Gaol.
Assange will become President.  ;) :D ;D



Trump can get out of anything -
even after going bankrupt 4 times people and banks still lent him money
and then he took that too when he went bankrupt for the 5th time -
and is still a billionaire with all his unpaid creditors living under bridges.
The guy is a genius - no one else could do that.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,
bonking every woman in town while his wife was pregnant,
grabbing women by their pussies,
ripping people off -

and he was still voted POTUS.    ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 5:37pm:
Listen here - all you hicks:

So Trump won't get away with it huh?


Ah.

So you admit he's committed a crime?



of course he did ...


Donald J. Trump is a criminal?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:
and he was still voted POTUS.   


By the electoral college, not the people of America.

;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:15pm
TRUMP BECAME A PRESIDENT
SHORTEN DIDN'T BECOME A PRIME MINISTER

...Peccary the Coward is still here like the liar and fraud that he is.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:32pm:
If Trump goes to Gaol.
Assange will become President.  ;) :D ;D



Trump can get out of anything -


You haven't been paying attention, Booby.

Trump Organisation found guilty in tax dodging scheme

New York: Donald Trump’s company has been convicted of tax fraud in a case brought by the Manhattan District Attorney, a significant repudiation of financial practices at the former president’s business.

The guilty verdict came on the second day of deliberations following a trial in which the Trump Organisation was accused of being complicit in a scheme by top executives to avoid paying personal income taxes on job perks such as rent-free apartments and luxury cars.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.



He went bankrupt but he's still a billionaire -

he got away with the money.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:22pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
TRUMP BECAME A PRESIDENT
SHORTEN DIDN'T BECOME A PRIME MINISTER

...Peccary the Coward is still here like the liar and fraud that he is.

;D ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:32pm:
If Trump goes to Gaol.
Assange will become President.  ;) :D ;D



Trump can get out of anything -


You haven't been paying attention, Booby.

Trump Organisation found guilty in tax dodging scheme

New York: Donald Trump’s company has been convicted of tax fraud in a case brought by the Manhattan District Attorney, a significant repudiation of financial practices at the former president’s business.

The guilty verdict came on the second day of deliberations following a trial in which the Trump Organisation was accused of being complicit in a scheme by top executives to avoid paying personal income taxes on job perks such as rent-free apartments and luxury cars.


He didn't get out of this either, Booby:

Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes:



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:32pm:
If Trump goes to Gaol.
Assange will become President.  ;) :D ;D



Trump can get out of anything -


You haven't been paying attention, Booby.

Trump Organisation found guilty in tax dodging scheme

New York: Donald Trump’s company has been convicted of tax fraud in a case brought by the Manhattan District Attorney, a significant repudiation of financial practices at the former president’s business.

The guilty verdict came on the second day of deliberations following a trial in which the Trump Organisation was accused of being complicit in a scheme by top executives to avoid paying personal income taxes on job perks such as rent-free apartments and luxury cars.


He didn't get out of this either, Booby:

Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes:



Trump is worth over $7 billion -

$2 million is chump change.   ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:24pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:22pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
TRUMP BECAME A PRESIDENT
SHORTEN DIDN'T BECOME A PRIME MINISTER

...Peccary the Coward is still here like the liar and fraud that he is.

;D ;D

;D ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.



He went bankrupt but he's still a billionaire -

he got away with the money.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:31pm
Trumped appeared out of nowhere like the Thief of Baghdad and became a President and now they're still giving chase of him down the rabbit hole.  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.



He went bankrupt but he's still a billionaire -


Says who?



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:32pm:
If Trump goes to Gaol.
Assange will become President.  ;) :D ;D



Trump can get out of anything -


You haven't been paying attention, Booby.

Trump Organisation found guilty in tax dodging scheme

New York: Donald Trump’s company has been convicted of tax fraud in a case brought by the Manhattan District Attorney, a significant repudiation of financial practices at the former president’s business.

The guilty verdict came on the second day of deliberations following a trial in which the Trump Organisation was accused of being complicit in a scheme by top executives to avoid paying personal income taxes on job perks such as rent-free apartments and luxury cars.


He didn't get out of this either, Booby:

Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes:



Trump is worth over $7 billion -


Says who?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.



He went bankrupt but he's still a billionaire -

he got away with the money.



gweggy doesnt understand that if muhanned ali got knocked to the canvas five times but just kept getting up and fighting on, that ADDS to his legendary status.

perhaps we can have a bugler play the last post every evening at the white house.

and perhaps a new american public holiday (jan 6 would be appropriate)  remembrance day.
people could wear a red poppy in honour of this force of nature

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.



He went bankrupt but he's still a billionaire -


Says who?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
gweggy doesnt understand that if muhanned ali got knocked to the canvas five times but just kept getting up and fighting on, that ADDS to his legendary status.

perhaps we can have a bugler play the last post every evening at the white house.

and perhaps a new american public holiday (jan 6 would be appropriate)  remembrance day.
people could wear a red poppy in honour of this force of nature



Greggy hates trump because he can get out of anything -

Greggy can't even escape a parking fine.     ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.



He went bankrupt but he's still a billionaire -


Says who?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 6:46pm:
He reminds me of Dain Ironfoot (The Hobbit) - just your obnoxious, unreasonable and abrasive red-ranga Saxon Dwarve. Typical of most ranga's in North America. Even Mexican red-ranga Canelo Alvarez fight's like Trump's personality.

Good on Trump for sticking it up the corrupt Democrats and exposing their lies and discriminating use of the Media with utter hypocrisy under the name of 'Power'.
Good on Assange too for kicking the Hornet's Nest and showing the world that the Democrats and Media are NO white anglo ANGEL of the West. ;)



he got away with:
going bankrupt 5 times,


No he didn't - he went bankrupt.

Five times.

He didn't escape bankruptcy at all.



He went bankrupt but he's still a billionaire -

he got away with the money.


No, he didn't.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:41pm
Trump is like Dain Ironfoot. Dwarves are as solid as the strongest shields - they can take a battering after battering and still stand firm.
While the Blonde-Anglo Elves can pick off the Media Orcs with their Arrows in attack.
Note: Trump is riding a Boar. Explains why Peccary the Pig is upset.

Trump_Ironfoot.jpg (111 KB | 4 )

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:43pm

How much is Donald Trump REALLY worth? Accountants reveal ex-president might have as little as $30million scattered across hundreds of bank accounts after review of his 2020 tax return - not the $3.2BILLION he claims

Accountants said Donald Trump could have as little as $30million readily available - spread across hundreds of bank accounts.

Forensic accountants Mark Gottlieb and Bruce Dubinsky, joined by University of Las Vegas Nevada tax law expert Francine Lipman, told The Daily Beast Trump likely has access to between $30million and $100million, after reviewing his 2020 tax returns.

;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:43pm:
How much is Donald Trump REALLY worth? Accountants reveal ex-president might have as little as $30million scattered across hundreds of bank accounts after review of his 2020 tax return - not the $3.2BILLION he claims

Accountants said Donald Trump could have as little as $30million readily available - spread across hundreds of bank accounts.

Forensic accountants Mark Gottlieb and Bruce Dubinsky, joined by University of Las Vegas Nevada tax law expert Francine Lipman, told The Daily Beast Trump likely has access to between $30million and $100million, after reviewing his 2020 tax returns.

;D



TRUMP!!!

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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm

Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:52pm
They'll never hang Trump -

jump to 4:15


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00y8Oajzjs0

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?




Ask them:

https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/?sh=563f1f6d47bd


You're never gunna hang em.  ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm:
Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

So true Bobby. He is a force of 'american' nature - you know, that nation that the Media is failing to be with each passing year.
He didn't succeed to drain the whole swamp.
But he did show that the Democrats/Media have turned 'Gay' and are self-destructing by their own rope.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?




Ask them:


I have.

Here's the truth:

Trump lied to me about his wealth to get onto the Forbes 400. Here are the tapes.

Posing as ‘John Barron,’ he claimed he owned most of his father’s real estate empire.

In May 1984, an official from the Trump Organization called to tell me how rich Donald J. Trump was. I was reporting for the Forbes 400, the magazine’s annual ranking of America’s richest people, for the third year. In the previous edition, we’d valued Trump’s holdings at $200 million, only one-fifth of what he claimed to own in our interviews. This time, his aide urged me on the phone, I needed to understand just how loaded Trump really was.

The official was John Barron — a name we now know as an alter ego of Trump himself. When I recently rediscovered and listened, for first time since that year, to the tapes I made of this and other phone calls, I was amazed that I didn’t see through the ruse: Although Trump altered some cadences and affected a slightly stronger New York accent, it was clearly him. “Barron” told me that Trump had taken possession of the business he ran with his father, Fred. “Most of the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump,” he said. “You have down Fred Trump [as half owner] . . . but I think you can really use Donald Trump now.” Trump, through this sockpuppet, was telling me he owned “in excess of 90 percent” of his family’s business. With all the home runs Trump was hitting in real estate, Barron told me, he should be called a billionaire.

At the time, I suspected that some of this was untrue. I ran Trump’s assertions to the ground, and for many years I was proud of the fact that Forbes had called him on his distortions and based his net worth on what I thought was solid research.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:04pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm:
Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

So true Bobby. He is a force of 'american' nature - you know, that nation that the Media is failing to be with each passing year.
He didn't succeed to drain the whole swamp.
But he did show that the Democrats/Media have turned 'Gay' and are self-destructing by their own rope.



And Greggy thinks he's gunna hang em.    ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?




Ask them:


I have.

Here's the truth:

Trump lied to me about his wealth to get onto the Forbes 400. Here are the tapes.

Posing as ‘John Barron,’ he claimed he owned most of his father’s real estate empire.

In May 1984, an official from the Trump Organization called to tell me how rich Donald J. Trump was. I was reporting for the Forbes 400, the magazine’s annual ranking of America’s richest people, for the third year. In the previous edition, we’d valued Trump’s holdings at $200 million, only one-fifth of what he claimed to own in our interviews. This time, his aide urged me on the phone, I needed to understand just how loaded Trump really was.

The official was John Barron — a name we now know as an alter ego of Trump himself. When I recently rediscovered and listened, for first time since that year, to the tapes I made of this and other phone calls, I was amazed that I didn’t see through the ruse: Although Trump altered some cadences and affected a slightly stronger New York accent, it was clearly him. “Barron” told me that Trump had taken possession of the business he ran with his father, Fred. “Most of the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump,” he said. “You have down Fred Trump [as half owner] . . . but I think you can really use Donald Trump now.” Trump, through this sockpuppet, was telling me he owned “in excess of 90 percent” of his family’s business. With all the home runs Trump was hitting in real estate, Barron told me, he should be called a billionaire.

At the time, I suspected that some of this was untrue. I ran Trump’s assertions to the ground, and for many years I was proud of the fact that Forbes had called him on his distortions and based his net worth on what I thought was solid research.


TRUMP !!! ;D

Trump_Ironfoot_002.jpg (111 KB | 3 )

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm:
Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

So true Bobby. He is a force of 'american' nature - you know, that nation that the Media is failing to be with each passing year.
He didn't succeed to drain the whole swamp.
But he did show that the Democrats/Media have turned 'Gay' and are self-destructing by their own rope.



And Greggy thinks he's gunna hang em.    ;D

Would you believe anything from a guy who runs back to his own Board like a Coward - where those he attacks, can not respond?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:15pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm:
Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

So true Bobby. He is a force of 'american' nature - you know, that nation that the Media is failing to be with each passing year.
He didn't succeed to drain the whole swamp.
But he did show that the Democrats/Media have turned 'Gay' and are self-destructing by their own rope.



And Greggy thinks he's gunna hang em.    ;D

Would you believe anything from a guy who runs back to his own Board like a Coward - where those he attacks, can not respond?



The Bible predicted people like Greggy:



Romans 1     KJV


26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm:
Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

So true Bobby. He is a force of 'american' nature - you know, that nation that the Media is failing to be with each passing year.
He didn't succeed to drain the whole swamp.
But he did show that the Democrats/Media have turned 'Gay' and are self-destructing by their own rope.



And Greggy thinks he's gunna hang em.    ;D


groggary prefers a senile old pedo for president that has a coke addict for a son :D LOL

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:24pm
Do you think Peccary should make another Promise?
You know - if Trump doesn't go to prison, he'll leave this Forum forever and have his Moderator Status removed ...and given to me, just to rub salt into the wound?
;)

Go on Peccary - make us another Promise and show how much of a fraud and liar Trump is.  ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:27pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:24pm:
Do you think Peccary should make another Promise?
You know - if Trump doesn't go to prison, he'll leave this Forum forever and have his Moderator Status removed ...and given to me, just to rub salt into the wound?
;)

Go on Peccary - make us another Promise and show how much of a fraud and liar Trump is.  ;)



Pecca never keeps his promises -

he would have left here years ago if he was honest.   ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:28pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm:
Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

So true Bobby. He is a force of 'american' nature - you know, that nation that the Media is failing to be with each passing year.
He didn't succeed to drain the whole swamp.
But he did show that the Democrats/Media have turned 'Gay' and are self-destructing by their own rope.



And Greggy thinks he's gunna hang em.    ;D


groggary prefers a senile old pedo for president that has a coke addict for a son :D LOL



Get Biden some slippers and a dressing gown -

put him in a rest home.    ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:24pm:
Do you think Peccary should make another Promise?
You know - if Trump doesn't go to prison, he'll leave this Forum forever and have his Moderator Status removed ...and given to me, just to rub salt into the wound?
;)

Go on Peccary - make us another Promise and show how much of a fraud and liar Trump is.  ;)



Pecca never keeps his promises -

he would have left here years ago if he was honest.   ;D


Do you think he's an honest Salesman when he sells guitars at his Shop in Perth?
I'm thinking of going to Perth to buy one off him as a goodwill gesture.
Do you think I will get a fair deal?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:24pm:
Do you think Peccary should make another Promise?
You know - if Trump doesn't go to prison, he'll leave this Forum forever and have his Moderator Status removed ...and given to me, just to rub salt into the wound?
;)

Go on Peccary - make us another Promise and show how much of a fraud and liar Trump is.  ;)



Pecca never keeps his promises -

he would have left here years ago if he was honest.   ;D


Do you think he's an honest Salesman when he sells guitars at his Shop in Perth?
I'm thinking of going to Perth to buy one off him as a goodwill gesture.
Do you think I will get a fair deal?



Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:27pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:24pm:
Do you think Peccary should make another Promise?
You know - if Trump doesn't go to prison, he'll leave this Forum forever and have his Moderator Status removed ...and given to me, just to rub salt into the wound?
;)

Go on Peccary - make us another Promise and show how much of a fraud and liar Trump is.  ;)



Pecca never keeps his promises -

he would have left here years ago if he was honest.   ;D


Do you think he's an honest Salesman when he sells guitars at his Shop in Perth?
I'm thinking of going to Perth to buy one off him as a goodwill gesture.
Do you think I will get a fair deal?



Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Well that's sold me Bobby!
He must be an honest Salesman if he sniffs the butts of people who are richer and more famous than him.  ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:45pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Well that's sold me Bobby!
He must be an honest Salesman if he sniffs the butts of people who are richer and more famous than him.  ;)




Yep and he reckons he can play any tune he wants to on his guitar -
he's that good.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Well that's sold me Bobby!
He must be an honest Salesman if he sniffs the butts of people who are richer and more famous than him.  ;)




Yep and he reckons he can play any tune he wants to on his guitar -
he's that good.

Wow!  :o That's amazing!  8-)
Explains why he's really crap at Politics, eh? ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:08pm
So much off topic bullshit attacking another poster because he has shown how pathetic you all are....Greg has you arseholes rattled!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:09pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:50pm:
Trump is a force of nature but he didn't quite drain all that swamp -

better luck next time when he's returned as POTUS.

So true Bobby. He is a force of 'american' nature - you know, that nation that the Media is failing to be with each passing year.
He didn't succeed to drain the whole swamp.
But he did show that the Democrats/Media have turned 'Gay' and are self-destructing by their own rope.



And Greggy thinks he's gunna hang em.    ;D


groggary prefers a senile old pedo for president that has a coke addict for a son :D LOL


Have you seen Trump Juniors eyes and the allegations of pedeophilic rape against Donald? The current president does not meet the same level as the previous genuinely did.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:13pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
So much off topic bullshit attacking another poster because he has shown how pathetic you all are....Greg has you arseholes rattled!!!

:) :) :)


Now that post folks has really made me laugh. ;D ;D
Well done Philperth - that's a beauty!
Did you make it up yourself?
Or did it take a few cans of beer while watching the footy?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Well that's sold me Bobby!
He must be an honest Salesman if he sniffs the butts of people who are richer and more famous than him.  ;)




Yep and he reckons he can play any tune he wants to on his guitar -
he's that good.


It is a skill there are guitarists who can do that. You train your ear to be able to hear what notes are being played. From there it can be done. My daughter studied audio engineering and had to learn this skill for recording and audio production activities like tracking etc. She can listen to music and tell you that it went from c to f flat to g and then b sharp or whatever it was. It isn't that unusual, she will say if its pentatonic or modal, the time (4/4) or the drummers BPM etc and a lot of other stuff including what other songs are constructed the same way. I hear none of that.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:20pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
So much off topic bullshit attacking another poster because he has shown how pathetic you all are....Greg has you arseholes rattled!!!

:) :) :)


Now that post folks has really made me laugh. ;D ;D
Well done Philperth - that's a beauty!
Did you make it up yourself?
Or did it take a few cans of beer while watching the footy?


It is obvious you are trolling because you like being seen as a complete dickhead....At last you have succeeded in something....Did an 8 year old write your pathetic response???

::) ::) ::)

Ordinarily he Xavier was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.
Heinrich Heine (1797 - 1856)


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?




Ask them:


I have.

Here's the truth:

Trump lied to me about his wealth to get onto the Forbes 400. Here are the tapes.

Posing as ‘John Barron,’ he claimed he owned most of his father’s real estate empire.

In May 1984, an official from the Trump Organization called to tell me how rich Donald J. Trump was. I was reporting for the Forbes 400, the magazine’s annual ranking of America’s richest people, for the third year. In the previous edition, we’d valued Trump’s holdings at $200 million, only one-fifth of what he claimed to own in our interviews. This time, his aide urged me on the phone, I needed to understand just how loaded Trump really was.

The official was John Barron — a name we now know as an alter ego of Trump himself. When I recently rediscovered and listened, for first time since that year, to the tapes I made of this and other phone calls, I was amazed that I didn’t see through the ruse: Although Trump altered some cadences and affected a slightly stronger New York accent, it was clearly him. “Barron” told me that Trump had taken possession of the business he ran with his father, Fred. “Most of the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump,” he said. “You have down Fred Trump [as half owner] . . . but I think you can really use Donald Trump now.” Trump, through this sockpuppet, was telling me he owned “in excess of 90 percent” of his family’s business. With all the home runs Trump was hitting in real estate, Barron told me, he should be called a billionaire.

At the time, I suspected that some of this was untrue. I ran Trump’s assertions to the ground, and for many years I was proud of the fact that Forbes had called him on his distortions and based his net worth on what I thought was solid research.


You see, Booby - he's not a billionaire.

Why are you so easily fooled by old men accused of raping little girls?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Well that's sold me Bobby!
He must be an honest Salesman if he sniffs the butts of people who are richer and more famous than him.  ;)




Yep and he reckons he can play any tune he wants to on his guitar -
he's that good.


It is a skill there are guitarists who can do that. You train your ear to be able to hear what notes are being played. From there it can be done. My daughter studied audio engineering and had to learn this skill for recording and audio production activities like tracking etc. She can listen to music and tell you that it went from c to f flat to g and then b sharp or whatever it was. It isn't that unusual, she will say if its pentatonic or modal, the time (4/4) or the drummers BPM etc and a lot of other stuff including what other songs are constructed the same way. I hear none of that.



And Pecca is one of them -
he only has to hear it and he can play it.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:37pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Well that's sold me Bobby!
He must be an honest Salesman if he sniffs the butts of people who are richer and more famous than him.  ;)




Yep and he reckons he can play any tune he wants to on his guitar -
he's that good.


It is a skill there are guitarists who can do that. You train your ear to be able to hear what notes are being played. From there it can be done. My daughter studied audio engineering and had to learn this skill for recording and audio production activities like tracking etc. She can listen to music and tell you that it went from c to f flat to g and then b sharp or whatever it was. It isn't that unusual, she will say if its pentatonic or modal, the time (4/4) or the drummers BPM etc and a lot of other stuff including what other songs are constructed the same way. I hear none of that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqWnGrYTgio

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:49pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:12pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?


Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?


Stormy lost the defamtion case then she also lost the appeal.


That's right. She had a non-disclosure agreement, no?

You're a real stickler for the rules, Baron. If there's one thing you won't abide, it's illegality of any kind. You stand for due process, truth, justice and the American way.

Mr Trump deserves his day in court, no?


Perhaps you should stick to what you know best which is hanging around the Hairy ass dunnyblock in Harris Park

This case had nothing to do with NDA or her book.

Stormys lawyer was jailed for  extortion with NIKE.
Stormys lawyer ripped her off.

Stormy owes Trump heaps of money.



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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 19th, 2023 at 10:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Pecca mixes with the most famous guitar players in the world -

he has a reputation to uphold so he won't rip you off.

Well that's sold me Bobby!
He must be an honest Salesman if he sniffs the butts of people who are richer and more famous than him.  ;)




Yep and he reckons he can play any tune he wants to on his guitar -
he's that good.


It is a skill there are guitarists who can do that. You train your ear to be able to hear what notes are being played. From there it can be done. My daughter studied audio engineering and had to learn this skill for recording and audio production activities like tracking etc. She can listen to music and tell you that it went from c to f flat to g and then b sharp or whatever it was. It isn't that unusual, she will say if its pentatonic or modal, the time (4/4) or the drummers BPM etc and a lot of other stuff including what other songs are constructed the same way. I hear none of that.



And Pecca is one of them -
he only has to hear it and he can play it.


Clear as mud to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtTvqASQ9k

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 11:33pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:12pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?


Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?


Stormy lost the defamtion case then she also lost the appeal.


That's right. She had a non-disclosure agreement, no?

You're a real stickler for the rules, Baron. If there's one thing you won't abide, it's illegality of any kind. You stand for due process, truth, justice and the American way.

Mr Trump deserves his day in court, no?


Perhaps you should stick to what you know best which is hanging around the Hairy ass dunnyblock in Harris Park

This case had nothing to do with NDA or her book.

Stormys lawyer was jailed for  extortion with NIKE.
Stormys lawyer ripped her off.

Stormy owes Trump heaps of money.


No worries, dear. So now he's going to get his day in court. Finally.

Happy now?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Captain Caveman on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:09am

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:28pm:
.


Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


Looks like old slutguts is off to jail.


Bwahahahahaha.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 20th, 2023 at 11:21am
Donald Trump claims he could be arrested on Tuesday. Let's unpack what he said ::) ::)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 20th, 2023 at 11:22am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?




Ask them:


I have.

Here's the truth:

Trump lied to me about his wealth to get onto the Forbes 400. Here are the tapes.

Posing as ‘John Barron,’ he claimed he owned most of his father’s real estate empire.

In May 1984, an official from the Trump Organization called to tell me how rich Donald J. Trump was. I was reporting for the Forbes 400, the magazine’s annual ranking of America’s richest people, for the third year. In the previous edition, we’d valued Trump’s holdings at $200 million, only one-fifth of what he claimed to own in our interviews. This time, his aide urged me on the phone, I needed to understand just how loaded Trump really was.

The official was John Barron — a name we now know as an alter ego of Trump himself. When I recently rediscovered and listened, for first time since that year, to the tapes I made of this and other phone calls, I was amazed that I didn’t see through the ruse: Although Trump altered some cadences and affected a slightly stronger New York accent, it was clearly him. “Barron” told me that Trump had taken possession of the business he ran with his father, Fred. “Most of the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump,” he said. “You have down Fred Trump [as half owner] . . . but I think you can really use Donald Trump now.” Trump, through this sockpuppet, was telling me he owned “in excess of 90 percent” of his family’s business. With all the home runs Trump was hitting in real estate, Barron told me, he should be called a billionaire.

At the time, I suspected that some of this was untrue. I ran Trump’s assertions to the ground, and for many years I was proud of the fact that Forbes had called him on his distortions and based his net worth on what I thought was solid research.


You see, Booby - he's not a billionaire.

Why are you so easily fooled by old men accused of raping little girls?

I'm curious.



Why does every post of yours contain words to the effect of child rape

We are all curious ::)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 20th, 2023 at 11:36am
aquapussy

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 20th, 2023 at 12:31pm
.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 20th, 2023 at 1:38pm

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 20th, 2023 at 1:44pm
Trump's Nazi Goons get the snot kicked out of them:

https://youtu.be/NYovy7ObHsY

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 2:29pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:28pm:
.


Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


Looks like old slutguts is off to jail.


Bwahahahahaha.


Yes, it all could have been so beautiful. Mr Trump could have met Stormy at Atlantic City, just kissed her, grabbed her by the pussy and left it at that.

But no, he had to call her back, take her out for a well-done steak and ketchup, have his way with her and think up a story to tell Melania.

And then he had to go and ask Mike to pay her off - cash?

Mike had to talk him out of his cash idea, and we know how the rest of it goes.

Mike takes out a mortgage on his house, pays her off - cheque - and Mr Trump bumps up Mike's fees for a bit. Mike gets busted and takes the rap. Problem solved, right?

Wrong. For a while there, Mike strings the FBI along, playing a double-game, then the G-men put the screws on him. Hard evidence on the big fella or no deal. Twenty Years in Terra Haute or a three year stint of home detention, your choice.

Mr Trump gets antsy on Twitter, saying how much he values loyalty and how Mike's gotta lot of problems and he needs to be very careful about what he says to the FBI because we wouldn't want to see anything bad happen to Mike and that nice wife of his, right?

Fox, Breitbart and the Proud Boys pile into Mike, sending him death threats and Mike looks like a schmuck standing there with his dick in his hand. The FBI have Mike by the balls. Mike goes for it.

He rats on the boss, takes his three years and decides he likes the publicity. He writes a book, watches the feds drop the charges on the big fella (sitting prez) and then, one day, takes a trip into Manhattan to see the state DA.

What do you want to know? He says.

What have you got? They say.

We'll find out the answer to that tomorrow, leftards.

We'll have to wait and see what happens.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2023 at 4:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?




Ask them:


I have.

Here's the truth:

Trump lied to me about his wealth to get onto the Forbes 400. Here are the tapes.

Posing as ‘John Barron,’ he claimed he owned most of his father’s real estate empire.

In May 1984, an official from the Trump Organization called to tell me how rich Donald J. Trump was. I was reporting for the Forbes 400, the magazine’s annual ranking of America’s richest people, for the third year. In the previous edition, we’d valued Trump’s holdings at $200 million, only one-fifth of what he claimed to own in our interviews. This time, his aide urged me on the phone, I needed to understand just how loaded Trump really was.

The official was John Barron — a name we now know as an alter ego of Trump himself. When I recently rediscovered and listened, for first time since that year, to the tapes I made of this and other phone calls, I was amazed that I didn’t see through the ruse: Although Trump altered some cadences and affected a slightly stronger New York accent, it was clearly him. “Barron” told me that Trump had taken possession of the business he ran with his father, Fred. “Most of the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump,” he said. “You have down Fred Trump [as half owner] . . . but I think you can really use Donald Trump now.” Trump, through this sockpuppet, was telling me he owned “in excess of 90 percent” of his family’s business. With all the home runs Trump was hitting in real estate, Barron told me, he should be called a billionaire.

At the time, I suspected that some of this was untrue. I ran Trump’s assertions to the ground, and for many years I was proud of the fact that Forbes had called him on his distortions and based his net worth on what I thought was solid research.


You see, Booby - he's not a billionaire.

Why are you so easily fooled by old men accused of raping little girls?

I'm curious.



Why does every post of yours contain words to the effect of child rape

We are all curious ::)


That's easy to answer.

Most of my posts relate to Donald Trump, and he's an alleged child rapist.

He's accused of raping a small child - with longtime best friend and convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein - and then threatening to kill her and her family if she told anyone about the savage attack.

When we talk about disgusting people - and Trump is one of the most disgusting people to have ever been born - we often associate them with their worst attribute.

Adolph Hitler, the brutal dictator.

Jeffrey Dahmer, the cannibal.

Vlad, the impaler.

Jeffrey Epstein, the convicted child sex offender.

Pol Pot, the genocidal maniac.

Idi Amin, the butcher of Uganda.

And Donald Trump, the alleged child rapist.

I hope that satisfied your curiosity.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 20th, 2023 at 4:34pm
lol

nice try.

there are literally a million people posting hate about trump.

and yet only one who ALWAYS focuses on alledged child rape.

certainly a subject you fantasise about 24/7

disturbing

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:00pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 1:38pm:


I know, right? Why aren't Obama, Hillary and Sleepy Joe getting arrested for paying off porn stars?

And before you ask, why haven't they got Hunter Biden for fucking Russian hos?

Despicable stuff, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 4:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump



Wealth of Donald Trump
   
The net worth of Donald Trump is not publicly known. Various news organizations have attempted to estimate his wealth. Forbes estimates it at $3.2 billion as of October 26, 2022,[1] with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received a loan of one million US dollars from his father, and he has also made money from real estate ventures, hotels, casinos, golf courses,fundraising and Trump-branded products including neckties and steaks.


Says who, Bobby?

Who reported that figure?

Would you like a hint?



Forbes.


And who reported it to Forbes?




Ask them:


I have.

Here's the truth:

Trump lied to me about his wealth to get onto the Forbes 400. Here are the tapes.

Posing as ‘John Barron,’ he claimed he owned most of his father’s real estate empire.

In May 1984, an official from the Trump Organization called to tell me how rich Donald J. Trump was. I was reporting for the Forbes 400, the magazine’s annual ranking of America’s richest people, for the third year. In the previous edition, we’d valued Trump’s holdings at $200 million, only one-fifth of what he claimed to own in our interviews. This time, his aide urged me on the phone, I needed to understand just how loaded Trump really was.

The official was John Barron — a name we now know as an alter ego of Trump himself. When I recently rediscovered and listened, for first time since that year, to the tapes I made of this and other phone calls, I was amazed that I didn’t see through the ruse: Although Trump altered some cadences and affected a slightly stronger New York accent, it was clearly him. “Barron” told me that Trump had taken possession of the business he ran with his father, Fred. “Most of the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump,” he said. “You have down Fred Trump [as half owner] . . . but I think you can really use Donald Trump now.” Trump, through this sockpuppet, was telling me he owned “in excess of 90 percent” of his family’s business. With all the home runs Trump was hitting in real estate, Barron told me, he should be called a billionaire.

At the time, I suspected that some of this was untrue. I ran Trump’s assertions to the ground, and for many years I was proud of the fact that Forbes had called him on his distortions and based his net worth on what I thought was solid research.


You see, Booby - he's not a billionaire.

Why are you so easily fooled by old men accused of raping little girls?

I'm curious.



Why does every post of yours contain words to the effect of child rape

We are all curious ::)


That's easy to answer.

Most of my posts relate to Donald Trump, and he's an alleged child rapist.

He's accused of raping a small child - with longtime best friend and convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein - and then threatening to kill her and her family if she told anyone about the savage attack.

When we talk about disgusting people - and Trump is one of the most disgusting people to have ever been born - we often associate them with their worst attribute.

Adolph Hitler, the brutal dictator.

Jeffrey Dahmer, the cannibal.

Vlad, the impaler.

Jeffrey Epstein, the convicted child sex offender.

Pol Pot, the genocidal maniac.

Idi Amin, the butcher of Uganda.

And Donald Trump, the alleged child rapist.


I know, Greggery, but you're forgetting Jesus, Gandhi and Nelson Mandela, all unfairly maligned and brought down by evil oppressors, who used to be nice "noble Capitalists" until the big fella came along and delivered his sermon on the mount.

Rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation. The American dream is dead.

So awesome and inspiring, no?

So, so unfair.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 4:34pm:
lol

nice try.

there are literally a million people posting hate about trump.

and yet only one who ALWAYS focuses on alledged child rape.

certainly a subject you fantasise about 24/7

disturbing


Grown-up rape too, dear. The big fella''s got his E Jean Carroll trial coming up in April.

Sorry, I just mentioned rape. My apologies.

When you're a star they let you do it, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:11pm
at least trump didnt use his power to sexually assault an intern and then have his wife trash talk her as a liar on oprah

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:11pm:
at least trump didnt use his power to sexually assault an intern and then have his wife trash talk her as a liar on oprah


Do you know? That's the nicest thing you've said about the big fella in this thread, Aquascoot.

Yes, at least he didn't have a consensual affair with a staffer - that we know of.

Next you'll be saying at least Bill, the old dog, didn't pay Monica off with undeclared funds during an erection, no?

At least Bill didn't rape a gossip columnist in a Bergdoff's change room.

And at least Bill didn't rape a 13 year old with his old pal Epstein, then threaten to kill her if she ratted him out.

Alledgedly.

You?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:33pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:11pm:
at least trump didnt use his power to sexually assault an intern and then have his wife trash talk her as a liar on oprah


Do you know? That's the nicest thing you've said about the big fella in this thread, Aquascoot.

Yes, at least he didn't have a consensual affair with a staffer - that we know of.

Next you'll be saying at least Bill, the old dog, didn't pay Monica off with undeclared funds during an erection, no?

At least Bill didn't rape a gossip columnist in a Bergdoff's change room.

And at least Bill didn't rape a 13 year old with his old pal Epstein, then threaten to kill her if she ratted him out.

Alledgedly.

You?


A bit harsh, next you will be expecting them to occasionally come up with a legitimate argument. I tell you it's just not on - you ask way too much.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:44pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:11pm:
at least trump didnt use his power to sexually assault an intern and then have his wife trash talk her as a liar on oprah


Do you know? That's the nicest thing you've said about the big fella in this thread, Aquascoot.

Yes, at least he didn't have a consensual affair with a staffer - that we know of.

Next you'll be saying at least Bill, the old dog, didn't pay Monica off with undeclared funds during an erection, no?

At least Bill didn't rape a gossip columnist in a Bergdoff's change room.

And at least Bill didn't rape a 13 year old with his old pal Epstein, then threaten to kill her if she ratted him out.

Alledgedly.

You?


when did that happen?

oh its just an allegation.

as opposed to bills confirmed 27 flights on epsteins private jet ( to help supervise digging wells for the african pygmies :D :D :D :D)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 4:34pm:
lol

nice try.

there are literally a million people posting hate about trump.

and yet only one who ALWAYS focuses on alledged child rape.

certainly a subject you fantasise about 24/7

disturbing


What's disturbing is the people who defend alleged child rapists and convicted child sex offenders.





Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:52pm
. That Clinton was gifted and brilliant at winning elections was clear; that there was something sordid, entitled and morally bankrupt at the centre of the Clinton project was evident. I always thought there would be a reckoning. Some may say it came with Hillary Clinton losing the presidential election. Now at last, it may also be coming for him. Monica Lewinsky, the former White House intern, buoyed up by the #MeToo movement, is finding a way to talk about what happened.


For Clinton to win public forgiveness as he appeared to do, a young woman’s life was ruined. He lied. He lied on camera, and then he had a prayer breakfast and suddenly all the stuff about the accusations of an affair that Hillary had denounced as “a rightwing conspiracy” turned to ash. Watching him, Hillary and Chelsea, faces frozen in pain, do a walk of shame towards a helicopter, I wondered how they could simply “move on”. But, though a tearful Clinton said he was “a broken spirit”, he still got standing ovations. It was Lewinsky’s life that stopped. At 24, in 1998, she was bundled into a hotel room by a group of FBI agents overseen by Ken Starr and told that unless she cooperated she could face 27 years in prison. They had tapes, made by her “friend” Linda Tripp. Clinton may have lied but, forced to give evidence to a grand jury, Lewinsky was fixed for ever in the public imagination.

She was destroyed: a blousy sexual opportunist, a blowjob queen, a girl with weight problems in Beverly Hills maxing out the credit cards on Rodeo Drive. Pushy, dumb, naive. The US academic and writer Camille Paglia said she offered herself up as a “dessert cart” to the president. This intern did a stupid a thing at 22, and the most stupid thing of all is perhaps that she wanted him to love her. She wanted to hug him so bad, “I could cry”, she wrote. She felt he had “a beautiful soul”. She wrote reams of romantic tosh, but she was pilloried as a woman with the wrong appetites. She was not a victim but a sluttish vamp.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:11pm:
at least trump didnt use his power to sexually assault an intern and then have his wife trash talk her as a liar on oprah


Do you know? That's the nicest thing you've said about the big fella in this thread, Aquascoot.

Yes, at least he didn't have a consensual affair with a staffer - that we know of.

Next you'll be saying at least Bill, the old dog, didn't pay Monica off with undeclared funds during an erection, no?

At least Bill didn't rape a gossip columnist in a Bergdoff's change room.

And at least Bill didn't rape a 13 year old with his old pal Epstein, then threaten to kill her if she ratted him out.

Alledgedly.

You?


when did that happen?

oh its just an allegation.

as opposed to bills confirmed 27 flights on epsteins private jet ( to help supervise digging wells for the african pygmies :D :D :D :D)


I know, right? Here's the big fella paying off porn stars and watching his lawyer cop three years for the crime, but do you know?

Bill Clinton borrowed Jeff Epstein's jet to distribute aid to the pygmies.

I mean, who's the criminal here?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 4:34pm:
lol

nice try.

there are literally a million people posting hate about trump.

and yet only one who ALWAYS focuses on alledged child rape.

certainly a subject you fantasise about 24/7

disturbing


What's disturbing is the people who defend alleged child rapists and convicted child sex offenders.



Strange. What's the black & white picture at the top, Greggery?

Oh. That's the big fella with Donnie and Ivanka - on one of their confirmed flights on Epstein's private jet.

Aquascoot's going to flip over that, you watch. He'll be ropeable.

Mr Trump used to be his hero, did you know that? If there's one thing Aquascoot can't stand, it's lying, hypocritical elites who think it's one law for them, and another for the rest of us.

Sorry, lying, hypocritical leftard elites. He's always signalled that.

Aquascoot's most virtuous that way. Don't get him started on Bill, the old dog - did you hear?

Bill had an affair with his intern.

Despicable stuff, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:52pm:
. That Clinton was gifted and brilliant at winning elections was clear; that there was something sordid, entitled and morally bankrupt at the centre of the Clinton project was evident.


Oh, I know.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Frank on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?

Title: Re: usual Peccary BS propaganda
Post by Xavier on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 4:34pm:
lol

nice try.

there are literally a million people posting hate about trump.

and yet only one who ALWAYS focuses on alledged child rape.

certainly a subject you fantasise about 24/7

disturbing


What's disturbing is the people who defend alleged child rapists and convicted child sex offenders.



And yet Obama made it clear that Trump never 'involved' himself directly in anything Epstein and Maxwell were involved with. He may have rubbed shoulders with them in Public, but had nothing to do with them behind closed doors (Like Bill Clinton, Biden, Prince Andrew and more).
Obama may have hated Trump.
But Obama wouldn't need to lie about him either.


Peccary just posts more BS propaganda like always.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:20pm
Prominent feminists, all of them Democrat supporters, dismissed her as a bit of junk sex. Clinton liked his junk food; he was, as Hillary once said, “a hard dog to keep on the porch”. Lewinsky, this narcissistic, silly girl in a stained blue dress, was punished for his sins. She was disposable. Erica Jong and Maureen Dowd, among others, made that clear.

Now, though, we are finally in a different moment, and she has written perceptively of her experience, the aloneness of her life, in the light of the #MeToo movement. In Vanity Fair, she charts her own trauma and the collective trauma of 1998 that the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton meant for Americans, which she describes as not terror or war or recession but a shift that has altered her nation’s “capacity for mercy, measure and perspective”. The person that a nation might turn to for reassurance during a crisis – the president – was “absent”. He was also lying. This is worth noting every time some lie or other of the current president is exposed.

Lewinsky goes much deeper, however, and brilliantly challenges her own previous narrative. Four years ago, she still wrote of her relationship with Clinton as consensual. It was important for her to own her sexuality as a marker of her own agency, and she did not want to see herself as a victim. “Sure, my boss took advantage of me,” she wrote then. The abuse came after, in order to protect his power.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:28pm
Good read Aqua. Yep - Bill Clinton stared into the camera lens and lied to all America.
The Media/Democrat of today doesn't care if it makes lies, etc to the American People - especially against Trump.
It's a case of them putting to the American people and the Republicans of "Well what can you do about it anyway?!"  ;D

With the Media so much more on the side of their narrative Democrats, more so the Republicans if any. Little wonder the arrogance and confidence of the Democrats to make up anything they want, especially in regards to things like Trump, Ukraine and China, etc.
Notice how the Media is 'not representing' ordinary Americans on anything. It's either just Americans in Politics or overseas happenings.
The American people - no longer exist through the Media.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:30pm

Quote:
And yet Obama made it clear that Trump never 'involved' himself directly in anything Epstein and Maxwell were involved with.


How would Obama know. That comment could be a silly as it seems.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:33pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?


Not at all. A rather long-winded ad for Trump "banknotes", but it's the thought that counts.

Mind you, this vlogger just said everything Tucker Carlson already said, but in a jolly British accent.

But you gotta love it. All the usual lines. Aggregious politicisation of the law, so so unfair. A big, fat nothing-burger - for a crime Dear Leader's lawyer's already done three years for.

And it won't stop there. There are two more arrests pending. A prez caught on tape bullying the Georgia secretary of state to find him 12,000 more votes?

Lobbying, a bit of harmless political advocacy. They all do it.

A prez, caught on video, inciting a riot that kills eight people? After he ordered his staff to let the armed ones in? Told they were trying to assassinate his own vice prez and said it might not be such a bad idea?

A bit of harmless fun, youthful hijinx, letting off steam. I mean, he did lose an erection, no?

You get that.

Look, Dear Leader could be done for actual rape and they'll still sing his tune.

Oh look, the civil rape trial starts next month.

Boys will be boys, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Frank on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:24pm

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, ...


Do you like the multiple rape allegations?

The fact that he stole money from kids' charities?

The fact that he had his daddy pay off a doctor to write a note to get him out of military service?

Or, do you like the fact that his best friend was a convicted child sex offender?

Perhaps you like the fact that he admitted to walking in to the dressing rooms for Miss Teen USA while the 14 year old girls were semi-naked.

So much to like, Frank, but what's your favourite?

We're all curious.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:43pm

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.

Peccary hates Trump because he got more pussy than him and didn't need a guitar to do it. Trump also bangs a hot Slavic woman as his Trophy wife.  ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 9:36pm

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.


Just so. He's a contrarian to every rational, civilised, democratic, liber...

Ahem, libera...

Civilisation has its discontents, as every schoolboy knows.

Old boy? Can you say the word?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 9:43pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:43pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.

Peccary hates Trump because he got more pussy than him and didn't need a guitar to do it. Trump also bangs a hot Slavic woman as his Trophy wife.  ;D


Not when she's eight months pregnant, dear. Then you need a porn star, and a lawyer with a big bag.

In fact, not for the four short years he was in the White House either. Melania had him in the dog house the whole time.

Either Trump was doing the interns, or his male menopause has given him no more need for pussy or trophy wives.

And that's okay. Dear Leader had himself, no?

Not to mention Tucker Carlson.

Pucker up, leftards.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 20th, 2023 at 9:44pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:43pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.

Peccary hates Trump because he got more pussy than him and didn't need a guitar to do it. Trump also bangs a hot Slavic woman as his Trophy wife.  ;D


If that is what you consider success you would achieve the same result from banging hot hookers or porn stars....You are a complete and utter dickhead of the lowest order!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 10:09pm

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.


Just so. A bit of a contrarian: the rule of law, the democratic process, the peaceful transition of power, social cohesion.

He's a little bit naughty, and that's okay.

He triggers the leftards ever so, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 20th, 2023 at 10:20pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 9:44pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:43pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.

Peccary hates Trump because he got more pussy than him and didn't need a guitar to do it. Trump also bangs a hot Slavic woman as his Trophy wife.  ;D


If that is what you consider success you would achieve the same result from banging hot hookers or porn stars....You are a complete and utter dickhead of the lowest order!!!

::) ::) ::)


Now now, Phil, don't be mean. No one's blaming the big fella for porking Stormy.

Melania might not have forgiven him, but that's their business.

The big fella's up for not writing the payout bills down on his financial disclosure statements. They're most particular about that. Mike specifically warned him about it. He even has his boss on tape, plotting the whole thing - cash?

Mike did three years for doing his boss' bidding. He took the rap. Now, it's payback time.

Tuesday 21/03/2023. Feel free to join the Proud Boys in prayer, at a protest near you. BYO AR15.

Be there.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by wombatwoody on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:56am
;D  ;D  ;D


MANHATTAN, NY — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has announced a brilliant new plan to get Trump elected President in 2024.

"I will stop at absolutely nothing to put Trump back in the White House where he belongs," said Mr. Bragg. "I'm about to charge up his base like you've never seen!"

Mr. Bragg had carefully waited until the moment he could give Trump the biggest political boost to push forward with an indictment. "Check and mate, libs," laughed Mr. Bragg as he pulled on a MAGA hat. "I've already put in my request to be Trump's Transportation Secretary, I hear it's super easy. 2024, here we come!"

After lawyers of every political allegiance agreed there was no criminal case against Trump over hush money paid during his 2016 campaign, Mr. Bragg knew taking the hopeless case was his big chance. "The optics of Democrats indicting, even handcuffing Trump on charges that have no chance of sticking - what more could the Trump campaign ask for?" said MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "Mr. Bragg might be the most brilliant Republican strategist this century. He's playing chess while the rest of us are out here playing checkers."

At publishing time, Governor Ron DeSantis was wondering what sort of crime he needed to be indicted for to keep pace with Trump.


BabylonBee.com

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:27am

Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 10:20pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 9:44pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 8:43pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm:
https://youtu.be/fEqhwxojyAA



Do you feel embarrassed Frank ?



Not at all.  I do like the bloke, he cuts through the total bollocks that floats you, ducky.

He is a contrarian to the idiotic narrative that you gobble down - a GOOD thing.  He doesn't have to be right on everything as long as he is not duck stepping with the idiotic official narrative like you do, pea brain.

Peccary hates Trump because he got more pussy than him and didn't need a guitar to do it. Trump also bangs a hot Slavic woman as his Trophy wife.  ;D


If that is what you consider success you would achieve the same result from banging hot hookers or porn stars....You are a complete and utter dickhead of the lowest order!!!

::) ::) ::)


Now now, Phil, don't be mean. No one's blaming the big fella for porking Stormy.

Melania might not have forgiven him, but that's their business.

The big fella's up for not writing the payout bills down on his financial disclosure statements. They're most particular about that. Mike specifically warned him about it. He even has his boss on tape, plotting the whole thing - cash?

Mike did three years for doing his boss' bidding. He took the rap. Now, it's payback time.

Tuesday 21/03/2023. Feel free to join the Proud Boys in prayer, at a protest near you. BYO AR15.

Be there.


Melania is no better than Hillary....When you support arseholes you are an arsehole....Look at Ballsack who continually defends Xavier's crap....Two arseholes with nothing to offer accept stupidity???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Frank on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:37am

waggawoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:56am:
;D  ;D  ;D


MANHATTAN, NY — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has announced a brilliant new plan to get Trump elected President in 2024.

"I will stop at absolutely nothing to put Trump back in the White House where he belongs," said Mr. Bragg. "I'm about to charge up his base like you've never seen!"

Mr. Bragg had carefully waited until the moment he could give Trump the biggest political boost to push forward with an indictment. "Check and mate, libs," laughed Mr. Bragg as he pulled on a MAGA hat. "I've already put in my request to be Trump's Transportation Secretary, I hear it's super easy. 2024, here we come!"

After lawyers of every political allegiance agreed there was no criminal case against Trump over hush money paid during his 2016 campaign, Mr. Bragg knew taking the hopeless case was his big chance. "The optics of Democrats indicting, even handcuffing Trump on charges that have no chance of sticking - what more could the Trump campaign ask for?" said MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "Mr. Bragg might be the most brilliant Republican strategist this century. He's playing chess while the rest of us are out here playing checkers."

At publishing time, Governor Ron DeSantis was wondering what sort of crime he needed to be indicted for to keep pace with Trump.


BabylonBee.com


Exactly. 

We don’t know the political impact of indicting Mr. Trump, but it’s possible it would help his candidacy. Republicans might rally to his defence even after millions had concluded after the GOP’s midterm disappointment that it is time for a new nominee. Democrats have used legal investigations and impeachment against Mr. Trump for six years, and each time it failed to knock him out. As we have argued all along, the proper way to defeat Mr. Trump is through the ballot box.

As a provincial progressive from New York City, Mr. Bragg may not understand the political forces he is unleashing. He might want to consult the satirical wisdom of the Babylon Bee headline on Twitter: “Manhattan DA Announces Plan to Get Trump Elected in 2024.”
WSJ

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:59am

Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:37am:

waggawoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:56am:
;D  ;D  ;D


MANHATTAN, NY — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has announced a brilliant new plan to get Trump elected President in 2024.

"I will stop at absolutely nothing to put Trump back in the White House where he belongs," said Mr. Bragg. "I'm about to charge up his base like you've never seen!"

Mr. Bragg had carefully waited until the moment he could give Trump the biggest political boost to push forward with an indictment. "Check and mate, libs," laughed Mr. Bragg as he pulled on a MAGA hat. "I've already put in my request to be Trump's Transportation Secretary, I hear it's super easy. 2024, here we come!"

After lawyers of every political allegiance agreed there was no criminal case against Trump over hush money paid during his 2016 campaign, Mr. Bragg knew taking the hopeless case was his big chance. "The optics of Democrats indicting, even handcuffing Trump on charges that have no chance of sticking - what more could the Trump campaign ask for?" said MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "Mr. Bragg might be the most brilliant Republican strategist this century. He's playing chess while the rest of us are out here playing checkers."

At publishing time, Governor Ron DeSantis was wondering what sort of crime he needed to be indicted for to keep pace with Trump.


BabylonBee.com


Exactly. 

We don’t know the political impact of indicting Mr. Trump, but it’s possible it would help his candidacy. Republicans might rally to his defence even after millions had concluded after the GOP’s midterm disappointment that it is time for a new nominee. Democrats have used legal investigations and impeachment against Mr. Trump for six years, and each time it failed to knock him out. As we have argued all along, the proper way to defeat Mr. Trump is through the ballot box.

As a provincial progressive from New York City, Mr. Bragg may not understand the political forces he is unleashing. He might want to consult the satirical wisdom of the Babylon Bee headline on Twitter: “Manhattan DA Announces Plan to Get Trump Elected in 2024.”
WSJ


So you've descended from a sanctimonious upholder of the rules into a vote-chasing huckster, happy for your Dear Leader to commit crimes and play the butthurt victim of justice. 

How righteous of you, dear boy. If you don't mind me saying, do you know what you are?

You're virtuous. I mean this in the nicest possible way, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 21st, 2023 at 8:20am
9 pages of BS.

Has Trump been arrested? No

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 21st, 2023 at 8:27am

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:59am:

Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:37am:

waggawoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:56am:
;D  ;D  ;D


MANHATTAN, NY — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has announced a brilliant new plan to get Trump elected President in 2024.

"I will stop at absolutely nothing to put Trump back in the White House where he belongs," said Mr. Bragg. "I'm about to charge up his base like you've never seen!"

Mr. Bragg had carefully waited until the moment he could give Trump the biggest political boost to push forward with an indictment. "Check and mate, libs," laughed Mr. Bragg as he pulled on a MAGA hat. "I've already put in my request to be Trump's Transportation Secretary, I hear it's super easy. 2024, here we come!"

After lawyers of every political allegiance agreed there was no criminal case against Trump over hush money paid during his 2016 campaign, Mr. Bragg knew taking the hopeless case was his big chance. "The optics of Democrats indicting, even handcuffing Trump on charges that have no chance of sticking - what more could the Trump campaign ask for?" said MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "Mr. Bragg might be the most brilliant Republican strategist this century. He's playing chess while the rest of us are out here playing checkers."

At publishing time, Governor Ron DeSantis was wondering what sort of crime he needed to be indicted for to keep pace with Trump.


BabylonBee.com


Exactly. 

We don’t know the political impact of indicting Mr. Trump, but it’s possible it would help his candidacy. Republicans might rally to his defence even after millions had concluded after the GOP’s midterm disappointment that it is time for a new nominee. Democrats have used legal investigations and impeachment against Mr. Trump for six years, and each time it failed to knock him out. As we have argued all along, the proper way to defeat Mr. Trump is through the ballot box.

As a provincial progressive from New York City, Mr. Bragg may not understand the political forces he is unleashing. He might want to consult the satirical wisdom of the Babylon Bee headline on Twitter: “Manhattan DA Announces Plan to Get Trump Elected in 2024.”
WSJ


So you've descended from a sanctimonious upholder of the rules into a vote-chasing huckster, happy for your Dear Leader to commit crimes and play the butthurt victim of justice. 

How righteous of you, dear boy. If you don't mind me saying, do you know what you are?

You're virtuous. I mean this in the nicest possible way, no?

You just don't like Trump because he's a Red-haired Male on the New World Order side and you're just a Brown chick on the Big Brother side - you know, the side that rules Entertainment more than it can rule Politics like the NWO.  ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 9:44am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 8:20am:
9 pages of BS.

Has Trump been arrested? No


By Jove, you're right!

How silly of us.

So the big fella was pulling our leg the whole time, eh?

Cunning. Carry on, boys.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 9:49am

Jasin wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 8:27am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:59am:

Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:37am:

waggawoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:56am:
;D  ;D  ;D


MANHATTAN, NY — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has announced a brilliant new plan to get Trump elected President in 2024.

"I will stop at absolutely nothing to put Trump back in the White House where he belongs," said Mr. Bragg. "I'm about to charge up his base like you've never seen!"

Mr. Bragg had carefully waited until the moment he could give Trump the biggest political boost to push forward with an indictment. "Check and mate, libs," laughed Mr. Bragg as he pulled on a MAGA hat. "I've already put in my request to be Trump's Transportation Secretary, I hear it's super easy. 2024, here we come!"

After lawyers of every political allegiance agreed there was no criminal case against Trump over hush money paid during his 2016 campaign, Mr. Bragg knew taking the hopeless case was his big chance. "The optics of Democrats indicting, even handcuffing Trump on charges that have no chance of sticking - what more could the Trump campaign ask for?" said MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "Mr. Bragg might be the most brilliant Republican strategist this century. He's playing chess while the rest of us are out here playing checkers."

At publishing time, Governor Ron DeSantis was wondering what sort of crime he needed to be indicted for to keep pace with Trump.


BabylonBee.com


Exactly. 

We don’t know the political impact of indicting Mr. Trump, but it’s possible it would help his candidacy. Republicans might rally to his defence even after millions had concluded after the GOP’s midterm disappointment that it is time for a new nominee. Democrats have used legal investigations and impeachment against Mr. Trump for six years, and each time it failed to knock him out. As we have argued all along, the proper way to defeat Mr. Trump is through the ballot box.

As a provincial progressive from New York City, Mr. Bragg may not understand the political forces he is unleashing. He might want to consult the satirical wisdom of the Babylon Bee headline on Twitter: “Manhattan DA Announces Plan to Get Trump Elected in 2024.”
WSJ


So you've descended from a sanctimonious upholder of the rules into a vote-chasing huckster, happy for your Dear Leader to commit crimes and play the butthurt victim of justice. 

How righteous of you, dear boy. If you don't mind me saying, do you know what you are?

You're virtuous. I mean this in the nicest possible way, no?

You just don't like Trump because he's a Red-haired Male on the New World Order side and you're just a Brown chick on the Big Brother side - you know, the side that rules Entertainment more than it can rule Politics like the NWO.  ;)


Excellent analysis there, JaSin, just so. I, Karnal, am just a Brown chick on the Big Brother side - the side that rules Entertainment more than it can rule Politics like the NWO.

Cunning, no?
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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:23am

Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:37am:

waggawoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:56am:
;D  ;D  ;D


MANHATTAN, NY — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has announced a brilliant new plan to get Trump elected President in 2024.

"I will stop at absolutely nothing to put Trump back in the White House where he belongs," said Mr. Bragg. "I'm about to charge up his base like you've never seen!"

Mr. Bragg had carefully waited until the moment he could give Trump the biggest political boost to push forward with an indictment. "Check and mate, libs," laughed Mr. Bragg as he pulled on a MAGA hat. "I've already put in my request to be Trump's Transportation Secretary, I hear it's super easy. 2024, here we come!"

After lawyers of every political allegiance agreed there was no criminal case against Trump over hush money paid during his 2016 campaign, Mr. Bragg knew taking the hopeless case was his big chance. "The optics of Democrats indicting, even handcuffing Trump on charges that have no chance of sticking - what more could the Trump campaign ask for?" said MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "Mr. Bragg might be the most brilliant Republican strategist this century. He's playing chess while the rest of us are out here playing checkers."

At publishing time, Governor Ron DeSantis was wondering what sort of crime he needed to be indicted for to keep pace with Trump.


BabylonBee.com


Exactly. 

We don’t know the political impact of indicting Mr. Trump, but it’s possible it would help his candidacy. Republicans might rally to his defence even after millions had concluded after the GOP’s midterm disappointment that it is time for a new nominee. Democrats have used legal investigations and impeachment against Mr. Trump for six years, and each time it failed to knock him out. As we have argued all along, the proper way to defeat Mr. Trump is through the ballot box.


Been there, done that.

Now it's time for him to pay for his crimes.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:36am
The big fella understands how a human being is meant to function

We are put here on this earth to grow

How do you grow big muscles

You do so by constantly putting your muscle under pressure

How do you grow your psychological understanding of the nature of personal reality

You do so by constantly putting yourself under pressure

Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully

He puts himself in as many pressure cooker situations as he can

And therefore achieves what a human being is meant to achieve here on this planet

What can we say for the likes of many of our lefty colleagues

They basically see pressure as something to run away from

They like to hide from covid

They like to hide from interacting with women

They like to hide from the pressure of starting a business

They adopt the timid approach to life

They buy into the cult of safetyism

What could be a more timid approach to life then spending your time posting 120000 x that you dislike trump

There is no risk in that

There is no growth in that

People who post hateful things about trump online
Anonymously
Are literally pissing away the opportunity for growth

It's why they are still children prone to anxiety frustration and panic attacks


On their deathbed they will look back and see that they have risked nothing and achieved nothing


This will certainly not be the case with the big fella

He has risked everything and he has achieved incredible opportunities for growth

I like to call this the paradigm shift

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:39am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:36am:
Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully


Lol    ;D


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:48am

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 9:44am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 8:20am:
9 pages of BS.

Has Trump been arrested? No


By Jove, you're right!

How silly of us.

So the big fella was pulling our leg the whole time, eh?

Cunning. Carry on, boys.


Yeah you boys carry on. You’re now up to page 10. I’ll come back later on today .... when you lot get to page 20. 😂🤣😆

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:51am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:36am:
The big fella understands how a human being is meant to function

We are put here on this earth to grow

How do you grow big muscles

You do so by constantly putting your muscle under pressure

How do you grow your psychological understanding of the nature of personal reality

You do so by constantly putting yourself under pressure

Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully

He puts himself in as many pressure cooker situations as he can

And therefore achieves what a human being is meant to achieve here on this planet

What can we say for the likes of many of our lefty colleagues

They basically see pressure as something to run away from

They like to hide from covid

They like to hide from interacting with women

They like to hide from the pressure of starting a business

They adopt the timid approach to life

They buy into the cult of safetyism

What could be a more timid approach to life then spending your time posting 120000 x that you dislike trump

There is no risk in that

There is no growth in that

People who post hateful things about trump online
Anonymously
Are literally pissing away the opportunity for growth

It's why they are still children prone to anxiety frustration and panic attacks


On their deathbed they will look back and see that they have risked nothing and achieved nothing


This will certainly not be the case with the big fella

He has risked everything and he has achieved incredible opportunities for growth

I like to call this the paradigm shift


Come on Aqua - You don't really expect anyone to read all that crap do you?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:57am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:51am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:36am:
The big fella understands how a human being is meant to function

We are put here on this earth to grow

How do you grow big muscles

You do so by constantly putting your muscle under pressure

How do you grow your psychological understanding of the nature of personal reality

You do so by constantly putting yourself under pressure

Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully

He puts himself in as many pressure cooker situations as he can

And therefore achieves what a human being is meant to achieve here on this planet

What can we say for the likes of many of our lefty colleagues

They basically see pressure as something to run away from

They like to hide from covid

They like to hide from interacting with women

They like to hide from the pressure of starting a business

They adopt the timid approach to life

They buy into the cult of safetyism

What could be a more timid approach to life then spending your time posting 120000 x that you dislike trump

There is no risk in that

There is no growth in that

People who post hateful things about trump online
Anonymously
Are literally pissing away the opportunity for growth

It's why they are still children prone to anxiety frustration and panic attacks


On their deathbed they will look back and see that they have risked nothing and achieved nothing


This will certainly not be the case with the big fella

He has risked everything and he has achieved incredible opportunities for growth

I like to call this the paradigm shift


Come on Aqua - You don't really expect anyone to read all that crap do you?


This was the funniest bit:


Quote:
Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully

He puts himself in as many pressure cooker situations as he can


Trump does everything he can to avoid pressure cooker situations.

It's what he does all day, every day.

He's the ultimate coward.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Carl D on Mar 21st, 2023 at 11:00am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:51am:
Come on Aqua - You don't really expect anyone to read all that crap do you?


No need to read it - we've seen his word salads many times before in lots of other threads... he just rearranges the words from time to time.

:)


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:07pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 11:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:51am:
Come on Aqua - You don't really expect anyone to read all that crap do you?


No need to read it - we've seen his word salads many times before in lots of other threads... he just rearranges the words from time to time.

:)


you are probably correct.

if you have lived your whole life risking nothing and interested only in safety and 'lingering", then it would possibly cause your brain to explode if you were to contemplate just how much you gave up in terms of joy and passion to worship at the altar of comfort and safety.

its too late now.
you have too much "sunk costs"

carry on lingering

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:07pm:
you are probably correct.

if you have lived your whole life risking nothing and interested only in safety and 'lingering", then it would possibly cause your brain to explode if you were to contemplate just how much you gave up in terms of joy and passion to worship at the altar of comfort and safety.

its too late now.
you have too much "sunk costs"

carry on lingering




Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:28pm

Marla wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:07pm:
you are probably correct.

if you have lived your whole life risking nothing and interested only in safety and 'lingering", then it would possibly cause your brain to explode if you were to contemplate just how much you gave up in terms of joy and passion to worship at the altar of comfort and safety.

its too late now.
you have too much "sunk costs"

carry on lingering





pissing away your life is even more applicable to you marla.
now that we have identified you as a 58 yo white male walter mitty

lying on your death bed you can look back at all your sarcastic meaningless posts and feel a sense of pride and achievement  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:36am:
The big fella understands how a human being is meant to function

We are put here on this earth to grow

How do you grow big muscles

You do so by constantly putting your muscle under pressure

How do you grow your psychological understanding of the nature of personal reality

You do so by constantly putting yourself under pressure

Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully

He puts himself in as many pressure cooker situations as he can

And therefore achieves what a human being is meant to achieve here on this planet

What can we say for the likes of many of our lefty colleagues

They basically see pressure as something to run away from

They like to hide from covid

They like to hide from interacting with women

They like to hide from the pressure of starting a business

They adopt the timid approach to life

They buy into the cult of safetyism

What could be a more timid approach to life then spending your time posting 120000 x that you dislike trump

There is no risk in that

There is no growth in that

People who post hateful things about trump online
Anonymously
Are literally pissing away the opportunity for growth

It's why they are still children prone to anxiety frustration and panic attacks


On their deathbed they will look back and see that they have risked nothing and achieved nothing


This will certainly not be the case with the big fella

He has risked everything and he has achieved incredible opportunities for growth

I like to call this the paradigm shift


So why did the big fella pay Stormy off, Aquascoot?

I'm curious.

Why did he get her to sign a non-disclosure agreement? Why didn't he put the payments on his financial disclosure statement? Why did he let Mike take the rap?

And why is he insisting, to this day, that he never had sex with that Stormy Daniels woman?

I mean, if Mr Trump is so daring/devil-may-care about these things - nudge nudge, wink wink - why did he never own up and take it like a man?

Why does he continue to scream witch hunt, victimhood, so unfair?

Over to you for a reply, dear.

This should be good.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Gordon on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:25pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:36am:
The big fella understands how a human being is meant to function

We are put here on this earth to grow

How do you grow big muscles

You do so by constantly putting your muscle under pressure

How do you grow your psychological understanding of the nature of personal reality

You do so by constantly putting yourself under pressure

Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully

He puts himself in as many pressure cooker situations as he can

And therefore achieves what a human being is meant to achieve here on this planet

What can we say for the likes of many of our lefty colleagues

They basically see pressure as something to run away from

They like to hide from covid

They like to hide from interacting with women

They like to hide from the pressure of starting a business

They adopt the timid approach to life

They buy into the cult of safetyism

What could be a more timid approach to life then spending your time posting 120000 x that you dislike trump

There is no risk in that

There is no growth in that

People who post hateful things about trump online
Anonymously
Are literally pissing away the opportunity for growth

It's why they are still children prone to anxiety frustration and panic attacks


On their deathbed they will look back and see that they have risked nothing and achieved nothing


This will certainly not be the case with the big fella

He has risked everything and he has achieved incredible opportunities for growth

I like to call this the paradigm shift


So why did the big fella pay Stormy off, Aquascoot?

I'm curious.

Why did he get her to sign a non-disclosure agreement? Why didn't he put the payments on his financial disclosure statement? Why did he let Mike take the rap?

And why is he insisting, to this day, that he never had sex with that Stormy Daniels woman?

I mean, if Mr Trump is so daring/devil-may-care about these things - nudge nudge, wink wink - why did he never own up and take it like a man?

Why does he continue to scream witch hunt, victimhood, so unfair?

Over to you for a reply, dear.

This should be good.


You'd have slipped a Thai policeman a few baht here and there, eh old boy?
Tell us again about the time you gave that mustachioed hunk of spunk Indian motor cycle cop a good squeeze from behind. Did you have to slip him a  few rupee?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:36am:
The big fella understands how a human being is meant to function

We are put here on this earth to grow

How do you grow big muscles

You do so by constantly putting your muscle under pressure

How do you grow your psychological understanding of the nature of personal reality

You do so by constantly putting yourself under pressure

Trump just loves pressure

He accepts it fully

He puts himself in as many pressure cooker situations as he can

And therefore achieves what a human being is meant to achieve here on this planet

What can we say for the likes of many of our lefty colleagues

They basically see pressure as something to run away from

They like to hide from covid

They like to hide from interacting with women

They like to hide from the pressure of starting a business

They adopt the timid approach to life

They buy into the cult of safetyism

What could be a more timid approach to life then spending your time posting 120000 x that you dislike trump

There is no risk in that

There is no growth in that

People who post hateful things about trump online
Anonymously
Are literally pissing away the opportunity for growth

It's why they are still children prone to anxiety frustration and panic attacks


On their deathbed they will look back and see that they have risked nothing and achieved nothing


This will certainly not be the case with the big fella

He has risked everything and he has achieved incredible opportunities for growth

I like to call this the paradigm shift


So why did the big fella pay Stormy off, Aquascoot?

I'm curious.

Why did he get her to sign a non-disclosure agreement? Why didn't he put the payments on his financial disclosure statement? Why did he let Mike take the rap?

And why is he insisting, to this day, that he never had sex with that Stormy Daniels woman?

I mean, if Mr Trump is so daring/devil-may-care about these things - nudge nudge, wink wink - why did he never own up and take it like a man?

Why does he continue to scream witch hunt, victimhood, so unfair?

Over to you for a reply, dear.

This should be good.


as stalin was once told.

pick out the man and i'll find you the crime.

it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses (paying hush money is not a crime).

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,

a DA from NY where crime is up nearly 100 %.

how shameful

the fine people of real america will be outraged.

trump may have to be replaced by de Santis.

what an incredible outcome  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by thegreatdivide on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
a DA from NY where crime is up nearly 100 %.


Causes?

Funny how "timid" people are prepared to engage in criminal risk-taking.....

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
(paying hush money is not a crime)

Not a single person on the planet said it was.  Try to keep up.


aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,

Still a criminal offence though.  A crime.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for the same crime.

The crime involved two people, and one of them has already been convicted and sent to prison.

Why should the other criminal be given a free pass?

I'm curious.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:16pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
a DA from NY where crime is up nearly 100 %.


Causes?

Funny how "timid" people are prepared to engage in criminal risk-taking.....


Trump committed a crime too.

He is part of those crime statistics.

aqua seems to (mistakenly/ignorantly) believe that a misdemeanour isn't actually a crime.

How funny is that?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
a DA from NY where crime is up nearly 100 %.


Causes?

Funny how "timid" people are prepared to engage in criminal risk-taking.....


Trump committed a crime too.

He is part of those crime statistics.

aqua seems to (mistakenly/ignorantly) believe that a misdemeanour isn't actually a crime.

How funny is that?


aquascoot's argument is: "When lots of crime is happening, the people committing the lesser crimes should be allowed to get away with them".

What sort of dope "thinks" like that?  Seriously.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:26pm

Quote:
as stalin was once told.

pick out the man and i'll find you the crime.

it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses (paying hush money is not a crime).

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,

a DA from NY where crime is up nearly 100 %.

how shameful

the fine people of real america will be outraged.

trump may have to be replaced by de Santis.

what an incredible outcome  Grin Grin Grin Grin


Oh, I see. So Dear Leader disclosed these erection funds as legal expenses, did he?

Where?

Why did he not disclose them as hush-money payments? After all, he ensured Stormy promise to keep mum. He even sued her for blabbing. He even bought her story back off the National Enquirer.

Now, when you've answered that, dear, kindly show us all how Soros funds the New York Attorney General's Office. This will back up your virtuous claim with honour, integrity and truth.

I do find honesty a far more valuable quality than virtue signalling.

You?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
a DA from NY where crime is up nearly 100 %.


Causes?

Funny how "timid" people are prepared to engage in criminal risk-taking.....


Trump committed a crime too.

He is part of those crime statistics.

aqua seems to (mistakenly/ignorantly) believe that a misdemeanour isn't actually a crime.

How funny is that?


aquascoot's argument is: "When lots of crime is happening, the people committing the lesser crimes should be allowed to get away with them".

What sort of dope "thinks" like that?  Seriously.


No no, Aquascoot's saying it's not a crime when Mr Trump does it, that's all.

And those who say it is are mean, nasty, so unfair and have TDS. After all, Mr Trump's the victim here.

If you had any virtue, you'd be going after Bill, the old dog. He borrowed Epstein's private jet to dig wells for the pygmies.

So mean, nasty, unfair and deranged, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Carl D on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:07pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 11:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:51am:
Come on Aqua - You don't really expect anyone to read all that crap do you?


No need to read it - we've seen his word salads many times before in lots of other threads... he just rearranges the words from time to time.

:)


you are probably correct.

if you have lived your whole life risking nothing and interested only in safety and 'lingering", then it would possibly cause your brain to explode if you were to contemplate just how much you gave up in terms of joy and passion to worship at the altar of comfort and safety.

its too late now.
you have too much "sunk costs"

carry on lingering


Was this written by you?

;D

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Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:16pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:07pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 11:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:51am:
Come on Aqua - You don't really expect anyone to read all that crap do you?


No need to read it - we've seen his word salads many times before in lots of other threads... he just rearranges the words from time to time.

:)


you are probably correct.

if you have lived your whole life risking nothing and interested only in safety and 'lingering", then it would possibly cause your brain to explode if you were to contemplate just how much you gave up in terms of joy and passion to worship at the altar of comfort and safety.

its too late now.
you have too much "sunk costs"

carry on lingering


Was this written by you?

;D


hi carl.

you basicly only have one  thought process

safety

thats very boring and makes you feel contantly exhausted , like you need a nap.

of course you cant vibe with someone in expansive energy

::)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:19pm
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb to see if we can pin something on him.

thats clearly what the soros funded DA is doing.

it should back fire.

the fine people of real america are nothing like gweggy and matty fisk :D :D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:19pm:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb to see if we can pin something on him.

thats clearly what the soros funded DA is doing.

it should back fire.

the fine people of real america are nothing like gweggy and matty fisk :D :D



Quote:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb


Trumps co accused was convicted and imprisoned on this same charge. The crime was committed for Trumps benefit.


Quote:
what the soros funded DA


Can you show how Bragg was funded by Soros ?

Can you justify why Brags first action when elected was to choose to not charge Trump on the case being investigated at that time. The case was so solid that 2 prosecutors resigned in response.

The real question here and in other cases is: Should an x president be beyond the law or do the laws apply equally to everyone as specified in the US constitution. (Equal treatment clause of the 14th amendment).

Nobody has argued that Trump is innocent of anything, it is all boo hoo boo hoo how dare you treat this criminal like a criminal.

Trump could have avoided all of this simply by choosing to not break the law, about a hundred times..

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:34pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:19pm:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb to see if we can pin something on him.

thats clearly what the soros funded DA is doing.

it should back fire.

the fine people of real america are nothing like gweggy and matty fisk :D :D



Quote:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb


Trumps co accused was convicted and imprisoned on this same charge. The crime was committed for Trumps benefit.

[quote]what the soros funded DA


Can you show how Bragg was funded by Soros ?

Can you justify why Brags first action when elected was to choose to not charge Trump on the case being investigated at that time. The case was so solid that 2 prosecutors resigned in response.

The real question here and in other cases is should an x president be beyond the law or do the laws apply equally to everyone as specified in the US constitution. (Equal treatment clause of the 14th amendment).

Nobody has argued that Trump is innocent of anything, it is all boo hoo boo hoo how dare you treat this criminal like a criminal.

Trump could have avoided all of this simply by choosing to not break the law, about a hundred times..[/quote]

I hope Aqua won’t mind me replying to this bit 👇

Can you show how Bragg was funded by Soros ?

Here : read this 👇

https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-george-soros-funded-progressive-das-behind-us-crime-surge/

Note : Bragg is mentioned. Very close to $1 million worth of Soros money.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:41pm
ron is onto them

he calls him the george soros funded da about 10 times.

ron will be loving this.

as real america wakes up to a local crimewave about which the DA does nothing.
whilst pursuing trump on a technicality

why is ron so astute.

why are the dems such morons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ErHOGVPiE

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:41pm:
ron will be loving this.


Lol   ;D

This is a nightmare for Meatball Ron.

If Donald The Alleged Child Rapist is arrested, it will give him a boost in the GOP primaries.

Meatball Ron will fall further behind in his (futile) bid for the White House.

You really should pay attention to what's going on.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:18pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Quote:
as stalin was once told.

pick out the man and i'll find you the crime.

it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses (paying hush money is not a crime).

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,

a DA from NY where crime is up nearly 100 %.

how shameful

the fine people of real america will be outraged.

trump may have to be replaced by de Santis.

what an incredible outcome  Grin Grin Grin Grin


Oh, I see. So Dear Leader disclosed these erection funds as legal expenses, did he?

Where?

Why did he not disclose them as hush-money payments? After all, he ensured Stormy promise to keep mum. He even sued her for blabbing. He even bought her story back off the National Enquirer.

Now, when you've answered that, dear, kindly show us all how Soros funds the New York Attorney General's Office. This will back up your virtuous claim with honour, integrity and truth.

I do find honesty a far more valuable quality than virtue signalling.

You?


Hi there, Aquascoot. You?

That's a question. You don't have to answer if you don't want.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:16pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 12:07pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 11:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 10:51am:
Come on Aqua - You don't really expect anyone to read all that crap do you?


No need to read it - we've seen his word salads many times before in lots of other threads... he just rearranges the words from time to time.

:)


you are probably correct.

if you have lived your whole life risking nothing and interested only in safety and 'lingering", then it would possibly cause your brain to explode if you were to contemplate just how much you gave up in terms of joy and passion to worship at the altar of comfort and safety.

its too late now.
you have too much "sunk costs"

carry on lingering


Was this written by you?

;D


hi carl.

you basicly only have one  thought process

safety

thats very boring and makes you feel contantly exhausted , like you need a nap.

of course you cant vibe with someone in expansive energy

::)


Your Dear Leader plays it pretty safe with his sexual encounters, dear. He gets his lawyers onto them.

How would a true Alpha, a "noble capitalist", he on the "narrow road to success" manage his fillies?

Let's do this as a multiple choice, shall we?

a) Grope them by the pussy, go for a kiss and let it rip. Sure he fucked her. An Alpha's job is to spread his DNA.

b) Slap her around a bit to keep her in line. Own it. Be a man. Got a problem with that?

c) Pay her off, get her to sign a non-disclosure agreement, pay off the rag she blabbed to and brush the whole mess under the carpet. Belt and braces. Safety first, no?


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:35pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:19pm:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb to see if we can pin something on him.

thats clearly what the soros funded DA is doing.

it should back fire.

the fine people of real america are nothing like gweggy and matty fisk :D :D



Quote:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb


Trumps co accused was convicted and imprisoned on this same charge. The crime was committed for Trumps benefit.

[quote]what the soros funded DA


Can you show how Bragg was funded by Soros ?

Can you justify why Brags first action when elected was to choose to not charge Trump on the case being investigated at that time. The case was so solid that 2 prosecutors resigned in response.

The real question here and in other cases is should an x president be beyond the law or do the laws apply equally to everyone as specified in the US constitution. (Equal treatment clause of the 14th amendment).

Nobody has argued that Trump is innocent of anything, it is all boo hoo boo hoo how dare you treat this criminal like a criminal.

Trump could have avoided all of this simply by choosing to not break the law, about a hundred times..


I hope Aqua won’t mind me replying to this bit 👇

Can you show how Bragg was funded by Soros ?

Here : read this 👇

https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-george-soros-funded-progressive-das-behind-us-crime-surge/

Note : Bragg is mentioned. Very close to $1 million worth of Soros money. [/quote]

Thanks for that, dear. Can you see Alvin Bragg's name anywhere here?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_Change#:~:text=It%20was%20formed%20in%202005,an%20affiliated%20political%20action%20committee.

Over to you.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:36pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:19pm:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb to see if we can pin something on him.

thats clearly what the soros funded DA is doing.

it should back fire.

the fine people of real america are nothing like gweggy and matty fisk :D :D



Quote:
the criminal justice process should not be that we single out an individual and then take a fine tooth comb


Trumps co accused was convicted and imprisoned on this same charge. The crime was committed for Trumps benefit.

[quote]what the soros funded DA


Can you show how Bragg was funded by Soros ?

Can you justify why Brags first action when elected was to choose to not charge Trump on the case being investigated at that time. The case was so solid that 2 prosecutors resigned in response.

The real question here and in other cases is should an x president be beyond the law or do the laws apply equally to everyone as specified in the US constitution. (Equal treatment clause of the 14th amendment).

Nobody has argued that Trump is innocent of anything, it is all boo hoo boo hoo how dare you treat this criminal like a criminal.

Trump could have avoided all of this simply by choosing to not break the law, about a hundred times..


I hope Aqua won’t mind me replying to this bit 👇

Can you show how Bragg was funded by Soros ?

Here : read this 👇

https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-george-soros-funded-progressive-das-behind-us-crime-surge/

Note : Bragg is mentioned. Very close to $1 million worth of Soros money. [/quote]

The OSPF goes back to opposing the Iraq war - nothing new here.

Interesting is that they are about the only left leaning donator in the top ten. That's correct 9 of the top 10 spenders throw money into the right of politics and the right want to cry because one of them funds the left - how unfair for anyone to support the left - it's just unreasonable.


Quote:
Bragg is mentioned. Very close to $1 million worth of Soros money.


Soros puts money into OSPF. They spend the money as needed. It's not a Soros option.

Even with this Bragg's first decision was to not prosecute Trump when he had a very solid case to do so.

I still see it as the best way for Trump to stop being prosecuted is for him to stop commiting crimes, It isn't rocket surgery.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:41pm:
ron is onto them

he calls him the george soros funded da about 10 times.

ron will be loving this.

as real america wakes up to a local crimewave about which the DA does nothing.
whilst pursuing trump on a technicality

why is ron so astute.

why are the dems such morons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ErHOGVPiE


Ronda Santis is toast. Trump is cranky with him. Dons orange face turned grey and there was steam coming out of his neck bolts.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:04pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:36pm:
I still see it as the best way for Trump to stop being prosecuted is for him to stop committing crimes, It isn't rocket surgery.


Exactly!


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 4:36pm:
I still see it as the best way for Trump to stop being prosecuted is for him to stop committing crimes, It isn't rocket surgery.


Exactly!


Sure, but we're trying to excuse Dear Leader for past crimes, Greggery. He can't help what he's done in the past, no? No one can.

And no one can say what they might do in the future. It hasn't happened yet.

Steal more government records perhaps, grab and bribe more pussy, launder more Kremlin money, threaten more election officials and incite more riots, sure.

Nobody's perfect, right?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.




Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.


True, but the big fella failed to take care of Mike when he took the rap.

That brings them all down in the end. Motto of the story: look after your your men when they take your heat.

The big fella put his faith in loyalty. He forgot rule number one: always take care of the drop. No man's going to do your time without a drink.




Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ

Peccary wouldn't have the balls to look em in the eye.
He would hide his face in triumph, but shame.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:28pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ

Peccary wouldn't have the balls to look em in the eye.
He would hide his face in triumph, but shame.


Excuse I, JaSin, where was your Dear Leader when his Proud Boys were trying to lynch Mike Pence?

That's a question.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:31pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ

Peccary wouldn't have the balls to look em in the eye.
He would hide his face in triumph, but shame.


Excuse I, JaSin, where was your Dear Leader when his Proud Boys were trying to lynch Mike Pence?

That's a question.




Quote:
That's a question.


The squiggly thing with the dot under it at the end rather gives it away.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ


The last thing in the world I wanna see is Trump executed (or anyone, for that matter - I oppose capital punishment in all circumstances).

God no.

I wanna see him spend the rest of his life in prison ... suffering.

And I hope he lives to be 150 years old.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by thegreatdivide on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 12:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:41pm:
as real america wakes up to a local crimewave about which the DA does nothing.


What is causing this crime wave, in the richest nation on the planet?

Note: crime isn't comfortable, it requires risk-taking.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 1:13pm

Looks like Donald The Alleged Child Rapist might also be arrested on racketeering and conspiracy charges in Georgia.

Life is good   :)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 2:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ


The last thing in the world I wanna see is Trump executed (or anyone, for that matter - I oppose capital punishment in all circumstances).

God no.

I wanna see him spend the rest of his life in prison ... suffering.

And I hope he lives to be 150 years old.



Hi Greggy,
so you'd like to torture an old man for the next 70 years?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 2:43pm

Donald The Alleged Child Rapist's lawyers have requested that he be tried as a juvenile.

Makes sense.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 3:07pm
14 pages later .... I have to ask : Has Trump been arrested yet?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 3:07pm:
14 pages later .... I have to ask : Has Trump been arrested yet?


Not yet.

They're deciding who should go first.

Hopefully it's keeping him up at night   :)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 3:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ


The last thing in the world I wanna see is Trump executed (or anyone, for that matter - I oppose capital punishment in all circumstances).

God no.

I wanna see him spend the rest of his life in prison ... suffering.

And I hope he lives to be 150 years old.



Hi Greggy,
so you'd like to torture an old man for the next 70 years?



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 4:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 7:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:58pm:
it appears trump recorded the payment as legal expenses .

so this george soros funded DA is going after him for "poor record keeping" . a misdemeanour,


It's still  a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

It wasn't something he did just once, and could therefore possibly be dismissed as a clerical error.

It was done intentionally, eleven times.

He falsified business records eleven times.

That's repeated, intentional, criminal behaviour.



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ


The last thing in the world I wanna see is Trump executed (or anyone, for that matter - I oppose capital punishment in all circumstances).

God no.

I wanna see him spend the rest of his life in prison ... suffering.

And I hope he lives to be 150 years old.



Hi Greggy,
so you'd like to torture an old man for the next 70 years?


No.

I don't wanna do anything, except watch Donald The Alleged Child Rapist rot away in a prison cell for the rest of his life.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 4:05pm
In 5 years time.
Peccary will still be crying "But what about Trump!?!"

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:27pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 4:05pm:
In 5 years time.
Peccary will still be crying "But what about Trump!?!"



as a rule, when someone is focused on another persons life , its because there isnt much going on in their own

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:44pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 12:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 3:41pm:
as real america wakes up to a local crimewave about which the DA does nothing.


What is causing this crime wave, in the richest nation on the planet?

Note: crime isn't comfortable, it requires risk-taking.


Dear Leader's crime was an attempt to minimise risk, Great.

He ran the Stormy issue past Mike - cash?

No, Mike said, you can't do this with a brown paper bag and a cease-and-desist letter. We'll need to work something out.

Hence the loan withdrawal and the paper-trail back to Mike.

In this case, the crime was moat comfortable. Best of all, it had that element Dear Leader's Art of the Deal ghostwriter Tony Schwartz said underlay Dear Leader's most favourite deals: they all had a whiff of corruption; stiffing some chump out of something he prized.

A win-win operator Mr Trump aint. His strategy is always win-lose. It's how the big fella handles  his business, it's how he looks at foreign affairs. The big fella doesn't aim to win, he aims to make the other guy lose - the bigger the better.

In his New York electoral fraud case, the chump was Mike Cohen. In his pending federal insurrection case, the chump was Mike Pence. The big fella always has a Mike, a loyal insubordinate who'll sell their soul to do Dear Leader's bidding, but always gets shivved in the end.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:54pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 4:05pm:
In 5 years time.
Peccary will still be crying "But what about Trump!?!"



Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before Greggy ever gets a ten buck raise.
Yeah - how many of those guys in office owe everything to Trump? -
he made them  ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:00pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....

:-? :-? :-?


Mike got a concurrent three year sentence for that long bow, Phil. What makes more sense to you?

Mike was doing it out of the goodness of his heart? Or he was carrying out the boss' orders?

Mike has the whole deal on tape so it's a moot point.

The tape's not admissible as evidence because he didn't tell the boss he was taping, but we know.

Stormy's book may not be admissible either, but she knows.

Don't believe the hype. A grand jury heard the evidence and will vote to indict. That's the process. That's justice.

Mike testified before that jury, and he said the motive was all about the erection.

So, who to believe? Tucker Carlson?

Or the boss' own lawyer?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:01pm
Sorry, is that Bobby posting lines from Key Largo again?

Somebody tell him they misspelt quay.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:17pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....

:-? :-? :-?


Mike got a concurrent three year sentence for that long bow, Phil. What makes more sense to you?

Mike was doing it out of the goodness of his heart? Or he was carrying out the boss' orders?

Mike has the whole deal on tape so it's a moot point.

The tape's not admissible as evidence because he didn't tell the boss he was taping, but we know.

Stormy's book may not be admissible either, but she knows.

Don't believe the hype. A grand jury heard the evidence and will vote to indict. That's the process. That's justice.

Mike testified before that jury, and he said the motive was all about the erection.

So, who to believe? Tucker Carlson?

Or the boss' own lawyer?


To prove Trump violated campaign finance laws the prosecution must prove that he did it to bolster his election campaign and keep it from the public....But was it the public or his family he was concerned about....Trump's lawyers will argue he paid off Stormy to hide the truth from his family because he knew Stormy would go for gold whilst Trump was in the limelight....Too murky to be prosecuted IMO???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:20pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:01pm:
Sorry, is that Bobby posting lines from Key Largo again?

Somebody tell him they misspelt quay.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACTkVM6t_bo

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


so he claimed the 130 k as a tax deduction?

when you are the big fella, and you are trying to make america great again, you have to stay in a good mood.

people are being sucked into your "vibration"
they are vibing with you and it has to be awesome

now if donny lets off a little steam with stormy and it puts him in a great place mentally for the next rally, then thats money well spent

in fact, i'm sure "real' americans wouldnt begrudge a guy who has done so much for them getting a bit of stress relief .

our very own ATO pay for staff to have a weekly massage


from out very own tax department


The call centre operators sit at their consoles for extended periods. To prevent injuries and relieve stress, our company has engaged a group to provide massages for the operators. The company pays for the massages. What is the tax treatment of these?

These arrangements are becoming more common in the workplace, especially in call centres and offices. The immediate issue is whether your company is entitled to claim a tax deduction for the amounts paid to the massage providers.

Generally speaking, amounts paid for the benefit and welfare of employees will be tax deductible (excluding certain forms of entertainment). Therefore, the amounts paid to the massage provider would be deductible

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


so he claimed the 130 k as a tax deduction?


Illegally, eleven times.

That's a crime.

Moreover, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

That's at least twelve crimes he's gonna be busted for.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:35pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....

:-? :-? :-?


Mike got a concurrent three year sentence for that long bow, Phil. What makes more sense to you?

Mike was doing it out of the goodness of his heart? Or he was carrying out the boss' orders?

Mike has the whole deal on tape so it's a moot point.

The tape's not admissible as evidence because he didn't tell the boss he was taping, but we know.

Stormy's book may not be admissible either, but she knows.

Don't believe the hype. A grand jury heard the evidence and will vote to indict. That's the process. That's justice.

Mike testified before that jury, and he said the motive was all about the erection.

So, who to believe? Tucker Carlson?

Or the boss' own lawyer?


To prove Trump violated campaign finance laws the prosecution must prove that he did it to bolster his election campaign and keep it from the public....But was it the public or his family he was concerned about....Trump's lawyers will argue he paid off Stormy to hide the truth from his family because he knew Stormy would go for gold whilst Trump was in the limelight....Too murky to be prosecuted IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


Murky?  Maybe.  Maybe not.

But the eleven payments aren't - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:01pm:
Sorry, is that Bobby posting lines from Key Largo again?

Somebody tell him they misspelt quay.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACTkVM6t_bo


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:00pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....

:-? :-? :-?


Mike got a concurrent three year sentence for that long bow, Phil. What makes more sense to you?

Mike was doing it out of the goodness of his heart? Or he was carrying out the boss' orders?

Mike has the whole deal on tape so it's a moot point.

The tape's not admissible as evidence because he didn't tell the boss he was taping, but we know.

Stormy's book may not be admissible either, but she knows.

Don't believe the hype. A grand jury heard the evidence and will vote to indict. That's the process. That's justice.

Mike testified before that jury, and he said the motive was all about the erection.

So, who to believe? Tucker Carlson?

Or the boss' own lawyer?


To prove Trump violated campaign finance laws the prosecution must prove that he did it to bolster his election campaign and keep it from the public....But was it the public or his family he was concerned about....Trump's lawyers will argue he paid off Stormy to hide the truth from his family because he knew Stormy would go for gold whilst Trump was in the limelight....Too murky to be prosecuted IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


In that case, Mike needs a pardon ASAP, dear. Mike spent two years cooperating with the DA, including two days in court being grilled by prosecutors and a grand jury. He submitted the tapes, the paper trail and the evidence to prove intent.

Hell, he was the big fella's lawyer. When does a prosecutor get a witness like that?

If there's even a skerrick of doubt charges against an ex-prez won't stick, it'll be a hell of an anti-climax for all those Proud Boys getting ready to go wild in NYC.

This case is only the teaser. The big one's being investigated by the feds. 14,000 classified government records in an unlocked basement in Mar a Lago. Witness tampering. Incitement to riot.

They just keep building up. Last week, we saw 8 mil worth of laundered Russian funds funnelled through a Caribbean porn bank. Prosecutors in Georgia are sitting on election tampering.

Just think, all they had on Nixon was a burglary cover-up. They've got enough on Trump to send him to the Butner Federal Correctional Centre for the rest of his short days, but only when he's finished serving the three year stretch Mike did in the Met for carrying out the boss' orders.

Believe it.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was seperated only too disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family too know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


That's a misdemeanor, Greggery. Maybe a felony, depending on how the DA feels. The big boys come out to play when he's charged for hiding campaign funds. That's electoral crime, something taken quite seriously in America.

You might recall the big fella threatening to lock up or deport millions of illegal voters. You might recall him referring to various politicians as "crooked" and threatening to lock them up too. You may recall a certain campaign rally chant, often started by the big fella's warm-up act, Mike Flynn, who would have done time himself if the big fella didnt pardon him.

Electoral fraud is taken quite seriously in the US of A, and there is no greater defender of electoral integrity than Mr Donald J Trump, prez.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:26pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was seperated only too disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family too know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?


Because his lawyer's going to be on the stand, telling us. Mike also has documents, presumably, or the New York DA wouldn't be so rash as to call a grand jury to investigate an American prez.

A lot in this case will rely on what the judge rules as admissible as evidence. You can bet your Trump gold banknotes Dear Leader's lawyers will be arguing legal privilege for much of it - not too helpful when he's no longer Dear Leader's lawyer, lost his license to practice and did three years for carrying out Dear Leader's orders, but no doubt they'll try.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:26pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was separated only to disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family to know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?


Phil, you're confusing two different crimes (I know it's hard with Trump, as he's committed so many).

Forget about why he wanted to keep Stormy quiet - let's just all agree that he did it because of his family and that it had absolutely nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

Let's just put that aside, and look at the payments he made to his lawyer.

In fact, to make it simpler, let's just say - for the sake of the argument - that the eleven payments he made to his lawyer were reimbursements for apples that the lawyer had bought for Trump.

Don asked the lawyer to buy him some apples, and the bill came to $130,000 (these are particularly nice apples).

Now, when Don paid back the lawyer in eleven instalments, he recorded all eleven payments as 'legal expenses'.

That's a lie, and it's a crime.

At the end of the day the fruit vendor ended up with $130,000 - not the lawyer.  Paying fruit vendors isn't a legal expense.

Thus, Trump has committed at least eleven crimes.

Why he bought the apples is irrelevant in regards to these particular crimes.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:08pm
That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:23pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:
That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?


Absolutely.

He treats his wives with the utmost respect.



"He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside of her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what The Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'He raped me.' "

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:
That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?


Absolutely.

He treats his wives with the utmost respect.



"He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside of her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what The Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'He raped me.' "


Manhattan prosecutors can use that as evidence. It's already been tendered in the civil courts.

It's perfectly admissible. Alvin Bragg's going to have some fun with this one, no?

Sure, it'll probably be a closed court, but we'll have the coloured pencil sketches to go with the testimony all over the net for the next 3 years.

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:49pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:
That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?


Absolutely.

He treats his wives with the utmost respect.



"He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside of her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what The Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'He raped me.' "


Manhattan prosecutors can use that as evidence. It's already been tendered in the civil courts.

It's perfectly admissible. Alvin Bragg's going to have some fun with this one, no?

Sure, it'll probably be a closed court, but we'll have the coloured pencil sketches to go with the testimony all over the net for the next 3 years.

Enjoy!


Oh, I will   :)


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:26pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was separated only to disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family to know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?


Phil, you're confusing two different crimes (I know it's hard with Trump, as he's committed so many).

Forget about why he wanted to keep Stormy quiet - let's just all agree that he did it because of his family and that it had absolutely nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

Let's just put that aside, and look at the payments he made to his lawyer.

In fact, to make it simpler, let's just say - for the sake of the argument - that the eleven payments he made to his lawyer were reimbursements for apples that the lawyer had bought for Trump.

Don asked the lawyer to buy him some apples, and the bill came to $130,000 (these are particularly nice apples).

Now, when Don paid back the lawyer in eleven instalments, he recorded all eleven payments as 'legal expenses'.

That's a lie, and it's a crime.

At the end of the day the fruit vendor ended up with $130,000 - not the lawyer.  Paying fruit vendors isn't a legal expense.

Thus, Trump has committed at least eleven crimes.

Why he bought the apples is irrelevant in regards to these particular crimes.


So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:35pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:26pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was separated only to disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family to know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?


Phil, you're confusing two different crimes (I know it's hard with Trump, as he's committed so many).

Forget about why he wanted to keep Stormy quiet - let's just all agree that he did it because of his family and that it had absolutely nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

Let's just put that aside, and look at the payments he made to his lawyer.

In fact, to make it simpler, let's just say - for the sake of the argument - that the eleven payments he made to his lawyer were reimbursements for apples that the lawyer had bought for Trump.

Don asked the lawyer to buy him some apples, and the bill came to $130,000 (these are particularly nice apples).

Now, when Don paid back the lawyer in eleven instalments, he recorded all eleven payments as 'legal expenses'.

That's a lie, and it's a crime.

At the end of the day the fruit vendor ended up with $130,000 - not the lawyer.  Paying fruit vendors isn't a legal expense.

Thus, Trump has committed at least eleven crimes.

Why he bought the apples is irrelevant in regards to these particular crimes.


So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


the left are making a terrible mistake.

this could tie the big fella up in appeals and crap for ages and meanwhile Ron gets the inside running for being the nominee.

if they put ron up against biden, its all over.

the guy is super articulate and super strategic and rarely puts a foot wrong.

trump wouldnt win but ron will not only win, he wins in a landslide.

it might be what the dems want

they seem more comfortable in opposition because they get to complain and play the victim, which is more in keeping with their persona

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:36pm
OMG!!!

15 pages later and not only has Trump not been arrested .... he’ll only get a fine 😂🤣😆

Don’t you lot feel a tad silly now for wasting so much time and emotional energy on this ??

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:00pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:35pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:26pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was separated only to disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family to know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?


Phil, you're confusing two different crimes (I know it's hard with Trump, as he's committed so many).

Forget about why he wanted to keep Stormy quiet - let's just all agree that he did it because of his family and that it had absolutely nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

Let's just put that aside, and look at the payments he made to his lawyer.

In fact, to make it simpler, let's just say - for the sake of the argument - that the eleven payments he made to his lawyer were reimbursements for apples that the lawyer had bought for Trump.

Don asked the lawyer to buy him some apples, and the bill came to $130,000 (these are particularly nice apples).

Now, when Don paid back the lawyer in eleven instalments, he recorded all eleven payments as 'legal expenses'.

That's a lie, and it's a crime.

At the end of the day the fruit vendor ended up with $130,000 - not the lawyer.  Paying fruit vendors isn't a legal expense.

Thus, Trump has committed at least eleven crimes.

Why he bought the apples is irrelevant in regards to these particular crimes.


So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


the left are making a terrible mistake.

this could tie the big fella up in appeals and crap for ages and meanwhile Ron gets the inside running for being the nominee.


Which of these two scenarios do you see being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?

If you chose a), you truly are a bigger moron than everyone here thought.

Under no circumstances will Trump ever let Meatball Ron win the general election in 2024.

There's more chance of Bobby having sex (with a woman) than that ever happening.





Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:35pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:26pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was separated only to disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family to know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?


Phil, you're confusing two different crimes (I know it's hard with Trump, as he's committed so many).

Forget about why he wanted to keep Stormy quiet - let's just all agree that he did it because of his family and that it had absolutely nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

Let's just put that aside, and look at the payments he made to his lawyer.

In fact, to make it simpler, let's just say - for the sake of the argument - that the eleven payments he made to his lawyer were reimbursements for apples that the lawyer had bought for Trump.

Don asked the lawyer to buy him some apples, and the bill came to $130,000 (these are particularly nice apples).

Now, when Don paid back the lawyer in eleven instalments, he recorded all eleven payments as 'legal expenses'.

That's a lie, and it's a crime.

At the end of the day the fruit vendor ended up with $130,000 - not the lawyer.  Paying fruit vendors isn't a legal expense.

Thus, Trump has committed at least eleven crimes.

Why he bought the apples is irrelevant in regards to these particular crimes.


So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


the left are making a terrible mistake.

this could tie the big fella up in appeals and crap for ages and meanwhile Ron gets the inside running for being the nominee.

if they put ron up against biden, its all over.

the guy is super articulate and super strategic and rarely puts a foot wrong.

trump wouldnt win but ron will not only win, he wins in a landslide.

it might be what the dems want

they seem more comfortable in opposition because they get to complain and play the victim, which is more in keeping with their persona


Sorry, did you just say Trump won't win?

Please explain?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:31pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:36pm:
OMG!!!

15 pages later and not only has Trump not been arrested .... he’ll only get a fine 😂🤣😆

Don’t you lot feel a tad silly now for wasting so much time and emotional energy on this ??


Is that your final answer, dear?

Lock it in?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:35pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:26pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:
I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

:-? :-? :-?


Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright.  That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that.  Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law.  Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it.  If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?


Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.


Or was it one crime because it was separated only to disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family to know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

:-? :-? :-?


Phil, you're confusing two different crimes (I know it's hard with Trump, as he's committed so many).

Forget about why he wanted to keep Stormy quiet - let's just all agree that he did it because of his family and that it had absolutely nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

Let's just put that aside, and look at the payments he made to his lawyer.

In fact, to make it simpler, let's just say - for the sake of the argument - that the eleven payments he made to his lawyer were reimbursements for apples that the lawyer had bought for Trump.

Don asked the lawyer to buy him some apples, and the bill came to $130,000 (these are particularly nice apples).

Now, when Don paid back the lawyer in eleven instalments, he recorded all eleven payments as 'legal expenses'.

That's a lie, and it's a crime.

At the end of the day the fruit vendor ended up with $130,000 - not the lawyer.  Paying fruit vendors isn't a legal expense.

Thus, Trump has committed at least eleven crimes.

Why he bought the apples is irrelevant in regards to these particular crimes.


So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


the left are making a terrible mistake.

this could tie the big fella up in appeals and crap for ages and meanwhile Ron gets the inside running for being the nominee.


Which of these two scenarios do you see being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?

If you chose a), you truly are a bigger moron than everyone here thought.

Under no circumstances will Trump ever let Meatball Ron win the general election in 2024.

There's more chance of Bobby having sex (with a woman) than that ever happening.


That's a hard one, Greggery. Do you mean Ron Sanctimonious?

Aquascoot's confused. He doesn't know whether to love him or hate him.

Can you give him some advice?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:51pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:31pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:36pm:
OMG!!!

15 pages later and not only has Trump not been arrested .... he’ll only get a fine 😂🤣😆

Don’t you lot feel a tad silly now for wasting so much time and emotional energy on this ??


Is that your final answer, dear?

Lock it in?


Yep.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 11:38pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm:
So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


If he wasn't at risk of prison they would be hearing the case at the other grand jury, they are hearing the case in the criminal court.

I also doubt that he would go to prison, they may give him home detention if found guilty. If there were only one charge you would be correct he could not go to prison. However there are likely several pending charges. Because of the way he did it there are breaches to electoral laws and tax laws.

His co-conspirator got 3 years for the same crime.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Marla on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 2:32am

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:35pm:
Aquascoot's confused. He doesn't know whet



Off his medication as usual

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am


Sorry, did you just say Trump won't win?

Please explain? [/quote]

trump cant win you fool,

where did i ever say trump would win?

make america great and give up on sucking off the teat of big government   was trumps message.

that wouldnt vibe with 1 in 10 americans

so we can set trump aside.


if ron is attacked by trump, his status goes up with literally 10's of millions of people in middle america.

the guy is super sharp.

he ignores the petty bs and the woke rubbish and talks about peoples real concerns
law and order, the price of gas, inflation, small business.

the more trump attacks him, the more votes he gets.

and a debate between ron and biden or harris is a no brainer

he demolishes them

hopefully the soros paid for DA can tie trump up in the courts long enough that trump has no cash left to buy media time and hopefully the corrupt big tech and legacy media de-platform trump enough thar ron gets to blossom.

i can see that happening.

another thing.

ron is too savvy to attack trump and he doesnt have to.

he has plenty of morons who are willing to spend 6 years doing nothing but hating on trump

people like gweg and yourself

you do it because you have low self esteem and arent doing well in life.

americans see it

and they find it repulsive

yet another reason ron will keep his lips sealed about trump and not trash talk the big fella.

he knows only losers trash talk donny.

and ron is a winner :) :)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 6:11am
The more they chase Trump domestically.
The more the Democrats are exposed internationally.
;)


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 6:56am
From Forbes: Morning Consult poll (abridged):

•  Trump would lose to Biden by three points in a head-to-head match-
up, while Biden and DeSantis were tied.

•  DeSantis fared better than Trump among Republicans for the most
part, beating Biden by an 83% margin among Republicans overall (versus
80% for Trump) and by 85% among those who voted Republican in the
2022 midterms (versus 77% for Trump).

•  Voters over age 45 were 5 points more likely to prefer DeSantis over
Trump.


•  College-educated voters preferred Biden to either GOP candidate, but
DeSantis still fared 10 points better than Trump.

•  DeSantis was also at least slightly more popular than Trump among
nearly every other demographic polled: women, Democrats, and
Independents.

•  Trump tied DeSantis among men (both beat Biden by 4 points) and
was more popular than him among Black voters and voters under age 45,
though both groups still preferred Biden overall.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and Ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?


(b) Absolutely.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:37am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and Ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?


(b) Absolutely.



This is wonderful news for Ron
This is votes in the bank

As your own excellent data has already established
Ron is more popular than Donald
And the more Donald attacks him
The more popular Ron becomes

This is especially the case if Ron can maintain a calm confident positive frame

Trump is used to attacking people and they go into reaction
Whenever you react
You are essentially giving away your power

We can see this with the way Gregory and Maddie Fisk
Give away their power to trump

He dominates their life despite the fact he has never and will never even know who they are

Desantis is not that stupid
He understands frame control

If trump attacks
He merely remains like a lighthouse anchored 100mm deep into bedrock
The storm and tempest beat themselves against him
And the fact that he remains upright and unbothered
Establishes him as worthy of leadership

In all honesty understanding how human psychology works
Absolute best thing for Ron desantis is that trump unleashes on him
If he remains calm which he will
It is all pure upside

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 9:34am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 10:31pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:36pm:
OMG!!!

15 pages later and not only has Trump not been arrested .... he’ll only get a fine 😂🤣😆

Don’t you lot feel a tad silly now for wasting so much time and emotional energy on this ??


Is that your final answer, dear?

Lock it in?


Yep.


So far so good, dear.

Are you sure of that?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 9:56am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:37am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and Ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?


(b) Absolutely.



This is wonderful news for Ron
This is votes in the bank

As your own excellent data has already established
Ron is more popular than Donald
And the more Donald attacks him
The more popular Ron becomes

This is especially the case if Ron can maintain a calm confident positive frame

Trump is used to attacking people and they go into reaction
Whenever you react
You are essentially giving away your power

We can see this with the way Gregory and Maddie Fisk
Give away their power to trump

He dominates their life despite the fact he has never and will never even know who they are

Desantis is not that stupid
He understands frame control

If trump attacks
He merely remains like a lighthouse anchored 100mm deep into bedrock
The storm and tempest beat themselves against him
And the fact that he remains upright and unbothered
Establishes him as worthy of leadership

In all honesty understanding how human psychology works
Absolute best thing for Ron desantis is that trump unleashes on him
If he remains calm which he will
It is all pure upside


I know, right? You said that about your Dear Leader too. The frame, the rock, the beacon.

Not so much a man as a God.

And in so doing, you gave away every principle you once held dear. Loyalty and fidelity, moral integrity, political accountability, free trade, the rule of law - gone.

In four short years, you abandoned every virtue you'd once upheld in your crusade against the leftards.

We become the object of our devotion, no? As Krishna said to Arjuna, give Me a flower or a fruit, let Me guide your chariot, hand thy reins to Me.

How did that go for you?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:18am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and Ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?


(b) Absolutely.


Exactly.

Meatball Ron could very well win the GOP nomination, but he'll never win the general election if Trump is still alive.

Trump will take down Ron, his family, and the entire GOP before he stands by silently and watches him become POTUS.

aquascoot just can't seem to wrap his head around this simple fact.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 11:10am

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 9:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:37am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and Ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?


(b) Absolutely.



This is wonderful news for Ron
This is votes in the bank

As your own excellent data has already established
Ron is more popular than Donald
And the more Donald attacks him
The more popular Ron becomes

This is especially the case if Ron can maintain a calm confident positive frame

Trump is used to attacking people and they go into reaction
Whenever you react
You are essentially giving away your power

We can see this with the way Gregory and Maddie Fisk
Give away their power to trump

He dominates their life despite the fact he has never and will never even know who they are

Desantis is not that stupid
He understands frame control

If trump attacks
He merely remains like a lighthouse anchored 100mm deep into bedrock
The storm and tempest beat themselves against him
And the fact that he remains upright and unbothered
Establishes him as worthy of leadership

In all honesty understanding how human psychology works
Absolute best thing for Ron desantis is that trump unleashes on him
If he remains calm which he will
It is all pure upside


I know, right? You said that about your Dear Leader too. The frame, the rock, the beacon.

Not so much a man as a God.

And in so doing, you gave away every principle you once held dear. Loyalty and fidelity, moral integrity, political accountability, free trade, the rule of law - gone.

In four short years, you abandoned every virtue you'd once upheld in your crusade against the leftards.



We become the object of our devotion, no? As Krishna said to Arjuna, give Me a flower or a fruit, let Me guide your chariot, hand thy reins to Me.

How did that go for you?



Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:18am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and Ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?


(b) Absolutely.


Exactly.

Meatball Ron could very well win the GOP nomination, but he'll never win the general election if Trump is still alive.

Trump will take down Ron, his family, and the entire GOP before he stands by silently and watches him become POTUS.

aquascoot just can't seem to wrap his head around this simple fact.


Sure, but we'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 11:10am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 9:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:37am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:08am:
...

and Ron is a winner


Which of these two scenarios do you see as being more likely:

a) - Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump stands aside and says "The better man won, and now I'll give my full support to Ron"? or,

b) -  Meatball Ron wins the GOP nomination and Trump does everything in his power to totally destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP for denying him the position that he thinks is rightfully his?


(b) Absolutely.



This is wonderful news for Ron
This is votes in the bank

As your own excellent data has already established
Ron is more popular than Donald
And the more Donald attacks him
The more popular Ron becomes

This is especially the case if Ron can maintain a calm confident positive frame

Trump is used to attacking people and they go into reaction
Whenever you react
You are essentially giving away your power

We can see this with the way Gregory and Maddie Fisk
Give away their power to trump

He dominates their life despite the fact he has never and will never even know who they are

Desantis is not that stupid
He understands frame control

If trump attacks
He merely remains like a lighthouse anchored 100mm deep into bedrock
The storm and tempest beat themselves against him
And the fact that he remains upright and unbothered
Establishes him as worthy of leadership

In all honesty understanding how human psychology works
Absolute best thing for Ron desantis is that trump unleashes on him
If he remains calm which he will
It is all pure upside


I know, right? You said that about your Dear Leader too. The frame, the rock, the beacon.

Not so much a man as a God.

And in so doing, you gave away every principle you once held dear. Loyalty and fidelity, moral integrity, political accountability, free trade, the rule of law - gone.

In four short years, you abandoned every virtue you'd once upheld in your crusade against the leftards.



We become the object of our devotion, no? As Krishna said to Arjuna, give Me a flower or a fruit, let Me guide your chariot, hand thy reins to Me.

How did that go for you?



Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


Lol    ;D

Meatball Ron could very well win the GOP nomination, but he'll never win the general election while Trump is still alive.

Trump will take down Ron, his family, and the entire GOP before he stands by silently and watches him become POTUS.

He'd run as a third-party candidate and siphon votes away from Meatball.  Nothing surer.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm

Quote:
Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


True, dear, true. Mr Trump recently had Kanye to dinner, no?

And he had a marvellous relationship with Rocket Man. They were so close Mr Trump kept their letters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/trump-papers-kim-love-letters-national-archives-mar-a-lago

So how's the big fella's retirement going? Last I heard, he said this:


Quote:
THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”


Do you think the Real Americans should PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST in defence of their Dear Leader?

Why or why not?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Quote:
Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


True, dear, true. Mr Trump recently had Kanye to dinner, no?

And he had a marvellous relationship with Rocket Man. They were so close Mr Trump kept their letters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/trump-papers-kim-love-letters-national-archives-mar-a-lago

So how's the big fella's retirement going? Last I heard, he said this:

[quote]THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”


Do you think the Real Americans should PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST in defence of their Dear Leader?

Why or why not? [/quote]


chodes protest .
protesting is "copmplaining' and "being sad things didnt go your way"
its also being in reaction.

so protesting should always be left to the losers

note trump is still at the action and getting people to "react'
so he  is meeting people where they are at (unfortunately most people are in reaction which is why they are losers)

trump is an entertainer and his currency is attention.

like a mcdonalds owner, he jsut want lots of customers
it they are losers, no skin off his nose.

people should learn the lessons that trump has to offer.

dont be in reaction
dont pay attention to other people
be the star of YOUR OWN MOVIE.

it is no more trumps fault that chodes protest and storm the capital and chodes post hate about him oline (people like you and gweg)then that chodes fill up a maccas

you are all just customers to him. as you are to the maccas owner

in a way, the guys storming the capital have the same energy as you and gweg....reactive.

you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.

thats catastrophic.
lying on your death bed , you will have nothing

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:54pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Quote:
Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


True, dear, true. Mr Trump recently had Kanye to dinner, no?

And he had a marvellous relationship with Rocket Man. They were so close Mr Trump kept their letters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/trump-papers-kim-love-letters-national-archives-mar-a-lago

So how's the big fella's retirement going? Last I heard, he said this:

[quote]THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”


Do you think the Real Americans should PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST in defence of their Dear Leader?

Why or why not? [/quote]

And of course, "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST", in Trump speak, actually means "Get violent!".

That made some of the Republicans a little nervous (will they be confronted with a gallows next?) so they tried to dial back Donny's cries for violence.

That little Nazi Pixie who lost in Arizona - Kari Loser Lake - went public to declare that "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST" actually means "Pray to God".

;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by thegreatdivide on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:00pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:
you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.


Just as you can't reply to greg's point about Trump' likely destruction of Ron's tilt at the WH, you are defeated by your own logic above: the "master persuader" only gained 74 million votes, cf Biden's  78 million.

How does that tie in with the Dems being "low energy reactives", while you admit the Capitol rioters were also "low energy reactives"? 




Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:05pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:
you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.


Just as you can't reply to greg's point about Trump' likely destruction of Ron's tilt at the WH, you are defeated by your own logic above: the "master persuader" only gained 74 million votes, cf Biden's  78 million.

How does that tie in with the Dems being "low energy reactives", while you admit the Capitol rioters were also "low energy reactives"? 


Yep, he always goes silent when called out on the "Trump is universally popular" myth.

Trump was the most unpopular POTUS in history, and he lost the popular vote twice.  Twice!

When you mention this to the cult members though, they quickly change the subject and say "The popular vote doesn't determine who becomes President, the electoral college does".

It's hilarious to watch.

And yes, he won't address my Meatball Ron question because he knows the answer.  i.e. Trump will do everything he can to destroy Ron, his family, and the GOP if he isn't chosen as the Republican candidate.

Meatball can't win while Trump is alive.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:08pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:
you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.


Just as you can't reply to greg's point about Trump' likely destruction of Ron's tilt at the WH, you are defeated by your own logic above: the "master persuader" only gained 74 million votes, cf Biden's  78 million.

How does that tie in with the Dems being "low energy reactives", while you admit the Capitol rioters were also "low energy reactives"? 



it fits in nicely because a stand up comedian has put a wrecking ball thru politics and has a fan base of 74 million.

dave chappelle or chris rock couldnt get 7 million.

now as to gwegs point about trump putting a wrecking ball thru Ron.

its a totally different scenario.

trump relies on low vibration energy...bullying, stirring trolling, raising the buyer seller dynamic
he is interacting with those at the bottom (left and right).

successful people would largely ignore him (though they should take the lesson) and then carry on in high vibration energy

ron is a high vibration guy.

he is trump without the trolling, bullying , complaining and stirring.

he is still wildly attractive to republicans but he will also attract many democrats because they care about law and order, gas prices and inflation.

he may just get the whole dammed country re-united

apart from some goofball righties and some leftie woke morons

8 more years  ;)

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Xavier on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:10pm
Trump had to make it on his own.
Biden was just spoon fed all along.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:08pm:
8 more years  ;)


More?

Lol   ;D

The GOP isn't in the White House.

Hilarious.

And Meatball can't enter the White House while Don The Alleged Child Rapist is still alive.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by thegreatdivide on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:08pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:
you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.


Just as you can't reply to greg's point about Trump' likely destruction of Ron's tilt at the WH, you are defeated by your own logic above: the "master persuader" only gained 74 million votes, cf Biden's  78 million.

How does that tie in with the Dems being "low energy reactives", while you admit the Capitol rioters were also "low energy reactives"? 



it fits in nicely because a stand up comedian has put a wrecking ball thru politics and has a fan base of 74 million.

dave chappelle or chris rock couldnt get 7 million.

now as to gwegs point about trump putting a wrecking ball thru Ron.

its a totally different scenario.

trump relies on low vibration energy...bullying, stirring trolling, raising the buyer seller dynamic
he is interacting with those at the bottom (left and right).

successful people would largely ignore him (though they should take the lesson) and then carry on in high vibration energy

ron is a high vibration guy.

he is trump without the trolling, bullying , complaining and stirring.

he is still wildly attractive to republicans but he will also attract many democrats because they care about law and order, gas prices and inflation.

he may just get the whole dammed country re-united

apart from some goofball righties and some leftie woke morons

8 more years  ;)


"Low energy reactives" on both sides (who you admit are also found on the Right)  are concerned about "law and order, gas prices, and inflation".

That's why the Dems have a good chance at the next elections. 



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Dnarever on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:37pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:33pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:08pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:
you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.


Just as you can't reply to greg's point about Trump' likely destruction of Ron's tilt at the WH, you are defeated by your own logic above: the "master persuader" only gained 74 million votes, cf Biden's  78 million.

How does that tie in with the Dems being "low energy reactives", while you admit the Capitol rioters were also "low energy reactives"? 



it fits in nicely because a stand up comedian has put a wrecking ball thru politics and has a fan base of 74 million.

dave chappelle or chris rock couldnt get 7 million.

now as to gwegs point about trump putting a wrecking ball thru Ron.

its a totally different scenario.

trump relies on low vibration energy...bullying, stirring trolling, raising the buyer seller dynamic
he is interacting with those at the bottom (left and right).

successful people would largely ignore him (though they should take the lesson) and then carry on in high vibration energy

ron is a high vibration guy.

he is trump without the trolling, bullying , complaining and stirring.

he is still wildly attractive to republicans but he will also attract many democrats because they care about law and order, gas prices and inflation.

he may just get the whole dammed country re-united

apart from some goofball righties and some leftie woke morons

8 more years  ;)


"Low energy reactives" on both sides (who you admit are also found on the Right)  are concerned about "law and order, gas prices, and inflation".

That's why the Dems have a good chance at the next elections. 



The right will win if they can get the goods on Mr Potato head.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 11:38pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm:
So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


If he wasn't at risk of prison they would be hearing the case at the other grand jury, they are hearing the case in the criminal court.

I also doubt that he would go to prison, they may give him home detention if found guilty. If there were only one charge you would be correct he could not go to prison. However there are likely several pending charges. Because of the way he did it there are breaches to electoral laws and tax laws.

His co-conspirator got 3 years for the same crime.


I am not a Lawyer but your summary makes sense....Trump's biggest problem is those he associates with are more corrupt than him....Who would ever hire Michael Cohen to be your lawyer???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:07pm

Quote:
chodes protest .
protesting is "copmplaining' and "being sad things didnt go your way"
its also being in reaction.

so protesting should always be left to the losers

note trump is still at the action and getting people to "react'
so he  is meeting people where they are at (unfortunately most people are in reaction which is why they are losers)

trump is an entertainer and his currency is attention.

like a mcdonalds owner, he jsut want lots of customers
it they are losers, no skin off his nose.

people should learn the lessons that trump has to offer.

dont be in reaction
dont pay attention to other people
be the star of YOUR OWN MOVIE.

it is no more trumps fault that chodes protest and storm the capital and chodes post hate about him oline (people like you and gweg)then that chodes fill up a maccas

you are all just customers to him. as you are to the maccas owner

in a way, the guys storming the capital have the same energy as you and gweg....reactive.

you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.

thats catastrophic.
lying on your death bed , you will have nothing


I see. So selling chodes protest is just good entertainment. Selling chodes chicken Mcnuggets is just good business. Selling chodes autocracy is just good politics.

He on the "narrow path to success", vibing with the chodes. Not so much a man as a God.

So I'm curious. How about selling chodes vaccines?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Quote:
Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


True, dear, true. Mr Trump recently had Kanye to dinner, no?

And he had a marvellous relationship with Rocket Man. They were so close Mr Trump kept their letters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/trump-papers-kim-love-letters-national-archives-mar-a-lago

So how's the big fella's retirement going? Last I heard, he said this:

[quote]THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”


Do you think the Real Americans should PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST in defence of their Dear Leader?

Why or why not?


And of course, "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST", in Trump speak, actually means "Get violent!".

That made some of the Republicans a little nervous (will they be confronted with a gallows next?) so they tried to dial back Donny's cries for violence.

That little Nazi Pixie who lost in Arizona - Kari Loser Lake - went public to declare that "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST" actually means "Pray to God".

;D[/quote]

How cute. Prayer groups all over America will be joining forces and speaking in tongues for the big fella, devout CEO of America Inc and a deacon of his local church if you believe Truth Social.

Perhaps Kari can lay hands.

It may not happen overnight, leftards, but it will happen, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by aquascoot on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:26pm
people are either at the cause/stimulus  (trump) or at the effect/response (matty fisk and gweg)

if you are at the effect, you have given away all your power to the person at the cause

as Stephen Covey points out in his book “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People”, there’s a lot going on between the stimulus and the response. The stimulus could be what that other person does, or something they say, or the tone of voice in which they say it, or the look on their face.
In order for it to register as a stimulus at all, your mind has to interpret it as something threatening, provoking or guilt inducing, probably by matching it to the memories of previous bad experiences that it might remind you of. You have to evaluate the incoming sensory information in the light of your existing belief system. Maybe you have to tell yourself something about the stimulus that labels it as cheeky, insolent, aggressive, or inappropriate, before you get to feel the bad emotional response.
All this happens at an unconscious level, in a fraction of a second – and the more times you do it, the quicker it happens. Like anything else, you get better with practice – your brain forms new neural pathways which are widened and strengthened with every repetition, so the message to set off the response can whip along them faster and faster. You’re not consciously aware of this process. As a result, it really does feel like the stimulus is causing the next thing you’re aware of – the unresourceful emotional response.
The psychologist Viktor Frankl was imprisoned in Auschwitz and other concentration camps for five years. In that situation he saw the worst of humanity in the behaviour of the guards. Many of his fellow prisoners gave up, or acted as if they had abandoned all human feeling in the struggle to survive, as we would expect in such a terrible predicament.
But Frankl observed other prisoners who, despite being in the worst place in the world, were still able to find meaning in their lives and could still act with kindness and courage. What he saw of the best and worst in people in the camps inspired him to move away from Freud’s belief that the driving force of our actions is instincts and urges; instead, he came to believe that man’s deepest desire is to search for meaning and purpose. Later he wrote the great book ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’, in which he says “Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:42pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Quote:
Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


True, dear, true. Mr Trump recently had Kanye to dinner, no?

And he had a marvellous relationship with Rocket Man. They were so close Mr Trump kept their letters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/trump-papers-kim-love-letters-national-archives-mar-a-lago

So how's the big fella's retirement going? Last I heard, he said this:

[quote]THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”


Do you think the Real Americans should PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST in defence of their Dear Leader?

Why or why not?


And of course, "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST", in Trump speak, actually means "Get violent!".

That made some of the Republicans a little nervous (will they be confronted with a gallows next?) so they tried to dial back Donny's cries for violence.

That little Nazi Pixie who lost in Arizona - Kari Loser Lake - went public to declare that "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST" actually means "Pray to God".

;D


How cute. Prayer groups all over America will be joining forces and speaking in tongues for the big fella, devout CEO of America Inc and a deacon of his local church if you believe Truth Social.

Perhaps Kari can lay hands.

It may not happen overnight, leftards, but it will happen, no? [/quote]

This little Nazi is off her rocker:

Failed MAGA gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake is urging her supporters to pray for not only her lost election, but also seemingly for Donald Trump as the former president faces possible indictment.

Ms Lake shared a video to Twitter in which she asks supporters to pray that her Arizona election loss is overturned, and for a "bigger prayer – an end to corruption, a restoration of God's glory and a restoration of our God-given rights."

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 9:51pm
You have to have faith, Greggery. Read your Paretto. 

It may not happen overnight, but it will happen, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:08pm
They tried to bribe Kari, a mom. This is how they do it, guys.

A job, a big salary, a title, they tried to get her out of politics.

Anyhoo, she turned Fox down and plans to remain a stay-at-home-mom.

Do I hear an Amen?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:35pm
Ithink this analysis sums it up???


Quote:
Then in 1998, a year before Trump’s divorce from Maples was finalized, he met Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model. They were engaged in 2004, married in 2005, and in 2006 she gave birth to their son, Barron.

Then with his months-old baby at home, Trump, then 60, allegedly had a sexual liaison with 27-year-old Stormy Daniels, the star of “The Witches of Breastwick” and “Porking with Pride 2”; around the same time, Trump allegedly had an affair with Karen McDougal, a former Playboy playmate.

Testifying under oath, then-National Enquirer publisher David Pecker admitted that “in concert” with the Trump campaign the tabloid purchased the rights to McDougal’s story for $150,000 without any intention of publishing it “to prevent it from influencing the election.”

Trump opted to cut out the middleman with Daniels and pay for Daniels’ silence directly, through Cohen. Unlike the National Enquirer’s “catch-and-kill” payment, there was nothing illegal about it.

Reports indicate that to make his case, Bragg has to show that by falsely recording the payment as a legal expense — typically a misdemeanor in New York — Trump committed a felony because it was in furtherance of another crime, disguising an illegal campaign donation.


:-? :-? :-?

https://triblive.com/opinion/jonah-goldberg-trumps-stormy-daniels-payoff-could-finally-get-him-indicted-but-should-it/

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:40am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:26pm:
people are either at the cause/stimulus  (trump) or at the effect/response (matty fisk and gweg)

if you are at the effect, you have given away all your power to the person at the cause

as Stephen Covey points out in his book “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People”, there’s a lot going on between the stimulus and the response. The stimulus could be what that other person does, or something they say, or the tone of voice in which they say it, or the look on their face.
In order for it to register as a stimulus at all, your mind has to interpret it as something threatening, provoking or guilt inducing, probably by matching it to the memories of previous bad experiences that it might remind you of. You have to evaluate the incoming sensory information in the light of your existing belief system. Maybe you have to tell yourself something about the stimulus that labels it as cheeky, insolent, aggressive, or inappropriate, before you get to feel the bad emotional response.
All this happens at an unconscious level, in a fraction of a second – and the more times you do it, the quicker it happens. Like anything else, you get better with practice – your brain forms new neural pathways which are widened and strengthened with every repetition, so the message to set off the response can whip along them faster and faster. You’re not consciously aware of this process. As a result, it really does feel like the stimulus is causing the next thing you’re aware of – the unresourceful emotional response.
The psychologist Viktor Frankl was imprisoned in Auschwitz and other concentration camps for five years. In that situation he saw the worst of humanity in the behaviour of the guards. Many of his fellow prisoners gave up, or acted as if they had abandoned all human feeling in the struggle to survive, as we would expect in such a terrible predicament.
But Frankl observed other prisoners who, despite being in the worst place in the world, were still able to find meaning in their lives and could still act with kindness and courage. What he saw of the best and worst in people in the camps inspired him to move away from Freud’s belief that the driving force of our actions is instincts and urges; instead, he came to believe that man’s deepest desire is to search for meaning and purpose. Later he wrote the great book ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’, in which he says “Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”


Thanks, Aquascoot. What do you think the stimulus was for this?


Quote:
THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!


Let's do this as a multiple choice.

a) Melania looked at him funny over breakfast

b) Fox and Friends didn't gush hard enough when they discussed his case after the morning news bulletin

c) Rudy said he should issue a statement

d) He was having a bad hair day

e) All of the above

Yes, the big fella had had his shower, washed his hair and touched it up with Hair For Men Blonde. He was doing his trick with his styling brush and hair-dryer, but the hair-dryer dropped into the sink and gave him an electric shock. This made his hair stand up like that nasty picture the fake news took of him getting off Air Force One in Paris and he lost it, pushing and kicking his valet Carlo, who was standing by with his jacket and red silk tie. He gave up on Carlo, got out his phone, put on the caps and hate-Truth Socialed his revenge on the CORRUPT DEEP STATE ESTABLISHMENT!!!

When he was done, he sat down with Melania for breakfast. Rudy called. The big fella ignored it. Rudy's text came through: maybe we should put out a press release. The big fella fumed. That Ainsley Earhart bitch has a big mouth. He'd already told Tucker she should be fired, he'd speak to Rupert if he took his calls. Melania gave him a look as if to say, "who's fault's this?"

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:48am
Before we hit 18 pages in this ridiculous topic I just want to ask this trivial question:

Has Trump been arrested yet?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 24th, 2023 at 12:41pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:08pm:
They tried to bribe Kari, a mom. This is how they do it, guys.

A job, a big salary, a title, they tried to get her out of politics.

Anyhoo, she turned Fox down and plans to remain a stay-at-home-mom.

Do I hear an Amen?


Gotta feel sorry for her poor kids   :(

I wonder if they're forced to wear old grey blankets to school   :-/


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:39pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:48am:
Before we hit 18 pages in this ridiculous topic I just want to ask this trivial question:

Has Trump been arrested yet?


That's a question. Do you stand by your previous response, dear?

Lock it in for good?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:49pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:48am:
Before we hit 18 pages in this ridiculous topic I just want to ask this trivial question:

Has Trump been arrested yet?


That's a question. Do you stand by your previous response, dear?

Lock it in for good?


I’ll lock in my question. K?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 24th, 2023 at 5:02pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:48am:
Before we hit 18 pages in this ridiculous topic I just want to ask this trivial question:

Has Trump been arrested yet?


That's a question. Do you stand by your previous response, dear?

Lock it in for good?


I’ll lock in my question. K?


We'll take that as a question.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 24th, 2023 at 5:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:08pm:
They tried to bribe Kari, a mom. This is how they do it, guys.

A job, a big salary, a title, they tried to get her out of politics.

Anyhoo, she turned Fox down and plans to remain a stay-at-home-mom.

Do I hear an Amen?


Gotta feel sorry for her poor kids   :(

I wonder if they're forced to wear old grey blankets to school   :-/



Barrels, most likely.

And they tried to bribe Kari - an unemployed mom.

What's the bet she's in negotiations as we speak?

That's a question.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:58pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 27th, 2023 at 1:52pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.


That's a question, dear. Would you like to lock in your answer?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 27th, 2023 at 1:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:58pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.




Now now, Greggery. You're not supposed to post His image or utter His name.

That's a sin, dear.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 12:54pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 12:56pm

Greggy's fantasy picture:




Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 31st, 2023 at 1:24pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.


He's been indicted.

His third-rate lawyers say he will surrender on Tuesday.

He'll then be arrested and booked.

He'll have his mug shot and fingerprints taken, and most likely will have to surrender his passport.

Then he'll apply for bail, which he will probably be granted.

He'll then act like a petulant child and go on to his third-rate Twitter knock off to incite violence.



Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 31st, 2023 at 2:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.


He's been indicted.

His third-rate lawyers say he will surrender on Tuesday.

He'll then be arrested and booked.

He'll have his mug shot and fingerprints taken, and most likely will have to surrender his passport.

Then he'll apply for bail, which he will probably be granted.

He'll then act like a petulant child and go on to his third-rate Twitter knock off to incite violence.


I’ll diary this topic for next Tuesday then.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 5:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 12:56pm:
Greggy's fantasy picture:




Oh? That pic's now reality.

It may not happen overnight, leftards, but it will happen, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 5:28pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.


He's been indicted.

His third-rate lawyers say he will surrender on Tuesday.

He'll then be arrested and booked.

He'll have his mug shot and fingerprints taken, and most likely will have to surrender his passport.

Then he'll apply for bail, which he will probably be granted.

He'll then act like a petulant child and go on to his third-rate Twitter knock off to incite violence.


I’ll diary this topic for next Tuesday then.


So will we, dear. Did you lock it in?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 5:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.


He's been indicted.

His third-rate lawyers say he will surrender on Tuesday.

He'll then be arrested and booked.

He'll have his mug shot and fingerprints taken, and most likely will have to surrender his passport.

Then he'll apply for bail, which he will probably be granted.

He'll then act like a petulant child and go on to his third-rate Twitter knock off to incite violence.




Trump has the best lawyers in town -
he can get out of anything
Even 5 bankruptcies didn't stop him from being a billionaire and then POTUS.
Do you think a porn star hooker is going to put him in jail?
Trump reckons he never rooted her anyway -
she's a liar and I hope she ends up in jail.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 5:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.


He's been indicted.

His third-rate lawyers say he will surrender on Tuesday.

He'll then be arrested and booked.

He'll have his mug shot and fingerprints taken, and most likely will have to surrender his passport.

Then he'll apply for bail, which he will probably be granted.

He'll then act like a petulant child and go on to his third-rate Twitter knock off to incite violence.




Trump has the best lawyers in town -


Actually, he's well known for having the absolute worst lawyers in any town at any time.

They lose nearly every case they take on (check their record in the last 12 months or so) and most end up being disbarred and/or going to prison.

The running joke among the legal fraternity is that MAGA stands for: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.

He might have the best gold toilets and the best Chinese polo shirts, but one thing he most certainly does not have is the best lawyers.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:44pm:
Quick question for Groggy/Matty:

Has HE (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) been arrested yet?

Asking for a friend who couldn’t be bothered reading the 18 pages of this topic.


He's been indicted.

His third-rate lawyers say he will surrender on Tuesday.

He'll then be arrested and booked.

He'll have his mug shot and fingerprints taken, and most likely will have to surrender his passport.

Then he'll apply for bail, which he will probably be granted.

He'll then act like a petulant child and go on to his third-rate Twitter knock off to incite violence.


Now now, Greggery, you never can tell. All sorts of things may or may not happen.

Dear Leader (who will not be named by me because I refuse to be an enabler of your addiction to HIS NAME) might be pardoned.

Dear Leader might seek political asylum in Russia.

Dear Leader might commit suicide. It's all too common in these types of cases, dear, but do you know?

Less than 10% of criminal cases in America ever go to trial. Dear Leader will, most likely, do a plea bargain. He'll plead guilt to a lesser charge like tax evasion, cop a fine and that's that. But do you know?

The heat on the big fella hasn't even started. Georgia, the DOJ, jolly E Jean. It's going to be death of a thousand cuts until erection day, so I'm curious.

How many criminals do you know have won a presidential primary? And how many criminals who don't even want the job?

Dear Leader's only reason for standing was to stay away from the docks. Come Tuesday, he'll be in cuffs.

His only out now is a deal for a pardon, and there's a way out: promise some faker like Ron Desantimonious to stand down, but not just that.

Eat a big bowl of Ron D's shit - in public - and put every resource at the big fella's disposal behind Ron's campaign.

We're talking celebrity golf tournaments at Bedminster. $2000 a head dinners at Mar a Lago. Virtual playing cards of Ron D dressed as cowboy, motorcycle cop and red Indian, virtually signed by the big fella himself, the whole bit. We're talking Dear Leader being Ron Desantiminious's wind-up act at his rallies, basically playing Mike Flynn to Ron D's Dear Leader.

What a swell party it will be, no? If I was Ron I'd insist on a nice job for the big fella too. Ambassador to Ukraine? 

Lock it in, leftards. If Dear Leader wants a federal pardon, he's going to have to sing for his supper. And he'll still have to cop a plea bargain, a criminal record and no doubt some hefty community service in New York.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Actually, he's well known for having the absolute worst lawyers in any town at any time.

They lose nearly every case they take on (check their record in the last 12 months or so) and most end up being disbarred and/or going to prison.

The running joke among the legal fraternity is that MAGA stands for: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.

He might have the best gold toilets and the best Chinese polo shirts, but one thing he most certainly does not have is the best lawyers.





After 5 bankruptcies anyone else would have been left broke in the gutter
but Trump has Mar-a-Lago  a huge mansion -
he is worth $billions and lives a billionaire lifestyle -
wow - he has only the best lawyers to do that.
Do you really think some porno tart is going to put him in jail?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago

Mar-a-Lago.

It is the second-largest mansion in the state of Florida (after Versailles in Windermere).
In 2018, Forbes estimated the value of the estate at around $160 million,
claiming it had appreciated since Trump's purchase.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Actually, he's well known for having the absolute worst lawyers in any town at any time.

They lose nearly every case they take on (check their record in the last 12 months or so) and most end up being disbarred and/or going to prison.

The running joke among the legal fraternity is that MAGA stands for: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.

He might have the best gold toilets and the best Chinese polo shirts, but one thing he most certainly does not have is the best lawyers.





After 5 bankruptcies anyone else would have been left broke in the gutter
but Trump has Mar-a-Lago  a huge mansion -
he is worth $billions ...


No, he isn't.


Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Actually, he's well known for having the absolute worst lawyers in any town at any time.

They lose nearly every case they take on (check their record in the last 12 months or so) and most end up being disbarred and/or going to prison.

The running joke among the legal fraternity is that MAGA stands for: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.

He might have the best gold toilets and the best Chinese polo shirts, but one thing he most certainly does not have is the best lawyers.





After 5 bankruptcies anyone else would have been left broke in the gutter
but Trump has Mar-a-Lago  a huge mansion -
he is worth $billions and lives a billionaire lifestyle -
wow - he has only the best lawyers to do that.
Do you really think some porno tart is going to put him in jail?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago

Mar-a-Lago.

It is the second-largest mansion in the state of Florida (after Versailles in Windermere).
In 2018, Forbes estimated the value of the estate at around $160 million,
claiming it had appreciated since Trump's purchase.


No, dear. Horseface and the Manhattan case is just the wind-up act. The big fella will cop 140 hours hosting fund-raisers for disabled veterans, no more.

But do you know? It gives every other jurisdiction with indictments pending permission to let rip. The DOJ can now have some fun. Georgia can now go to town on Dear Leader's fat white ass.

And next month, in a New York district court, the fake news will be sitting in the wings, furiously scribbling down details of E Jean Carrol's rape, recording every pregnant pause and tear. 

The Manhattan grand jury is just testing the waters. All over America, prosecutors will get the message. No riots, no insurrection, no Proud Boys standing by.

Five or six MAGA nuts protesting on the steps - tops.

Oh, Tucker will do his nightly outraged monologues, and the rest of America will tune out, Dear Leader's bluff called.

Hear this, Bobby, and know. No matter how much you squirm, silly old Karnal is nearly always right on the money.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:17pm:
No, dear. Horseface and the Manhattan case is just the wind-up act. The big fella will cop 140 hours hosting fund-raisers for disabled veterans, no more.

But do you know? It gives every other jurisdiction with indictments pending permission to let rip. The DOJ can now have some fun. Georgia can now go to town on Dear Leader's fat white ass.

And next month, in a New York district court, the fake news will be sitting in the wings, furiously scribbling down details of E Jean Carrol's rape, recording every pregnant pause and tear. 

The Manhattan grand jury is just testing the waters. All over America, prosecutors will get the message. No riots, no insurrection, no Proud Boys standing by.

Five or six MAGA nuts protesting on the steps - tops.

Oh, Tucker will do his nightly outraged monologues, and the rest of America will tune out, Dear Leader's bluff called.

Hear this, Bobby, and know. No matter how much you squirm, silly old Karnal is nearly always right on the money.

It is a jolly world, no?



yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Actually, he's well known for having the absolute worst lawyers in any town at any time.

They lose nearly every case they take on (check their record in the last 12 months or so) and most end up being disbarred and/or going to prison.

The running joke among the legal fraternity is that MAGA stands for: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.

He might have the best gold toilets and the best Chinese polo shirts, but one thing he most certainly does not have is the best lawyers.





After 5 bankruptcies anyone else would have been left broke in the gutter
but Trump has Mar-a-Lago  a huge mansion -
he is worth $billions ...


No, he isn't.


No, he isn't. He's worth around 200 mil in over-inflated assets.

A few floors in Trump Tower. A few heavily-mortgaged resorts and golf courses. A few hotel management contracts, all over-valued for the money owed, and all under-valued for the taxes. Many of those properties are minority-owned anyway.

He owns maybe 10% of Mar a Lago. He doesn't even have the planning approval to live there.

Domestic banks won't lend him money, Deutsch Bank are out, and the big fella was recently stung laundering a 10 mil loan from a Russian oligarch.

He's now forced to hire real lawyers, and the bills are mounting up. Forget all the fines, there is a very real chance Dear Leader will be bankrupted by his mounting legal fees alone.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:17pm:
No, dear. Horseface and the Manhattan case is just the wind-up act. The big fella will cop 140 hours hosting fund-raisers for disabled veterans, no more.

But do you know? It gives every other jurisdiction with indictments pending permission to let rip. The DOJ can now have some fun. Georgia can now go to town on Dear Leader's fat white ass.

And next month, in a New York district court, the fake news will be sitting in the wings, furiously scribbling down details of E Jean Carrol's rape, recording every pregnant pause and tear. 

The Manhattan grand jury is just testing the waters. All over America, prosecutors will get the message. No riots, no insurrection, no Proud Boys standing by.

Five or six MAGA nuts protesting on the steps - tops.

Oh, Tucker will do his nightly outraged monologues, and the rest of America will tune out, Dear Leader's bluff called.

Hear this, Bobby, and know. No matter how much you squirm, silly old Karnal is nearly always right on the money.

It is a jolly world, no?



yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by John Smith on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?



As much as I wish it wasn't so, he's unlikely to go to jail,  even if he's found guilty

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:49pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?



As much as I wish it wasn't so, he's unlikely to go to jail,  even if he's found guilty



Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before you ever get a ten buck raise.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 31st, 2023 at 8:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?



As much as I wish it wasn't so, he's unlikely to go to jail,  even if he's found guilty



Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before you ever get a ten buck raise.


You mean like when every single one of his major candidates in the recent mid-terms were defeated?

How did Kari Lake go?

What about Herschel Walker - what's he doing now?

Mehmet Oz - is he back on TV?

Don Bolduc, Leora Levy, Gerald Malloy, Bo Hines, Steve Chabot,  Sarah Palin, Tudor Dixon, Dan Cox, Kim Crockett, and dozens more - all endorsed by Trump and they all lost.

Please explain.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 9:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?


Yes.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Frank on Mar 31st, 2023 at 10:25pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?


Yes.

Wee paki has the morals of gweggy turd.
Rubbish to rubbish,
Shite to shite

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 10:42pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?


Yes.



It's unlikely that Stormy will send him to jail -
you might have to say goodbye.    ;D

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 10:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?


Yes.



It's unlikely that Stormy will send him to jail -
you might have to say goodbye.    ;D


No. Your Dear Leader will go down for insurrection.

Remember that, Bobby.

It may well be the only urrection you ever get, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:38pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 10:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?


Yes.



It's unlikely that Stormy will send him to jail -
you might have to say goodbye.    ;D


No. Your Dear Leader will go down for insurrection.

Remember that, Bobby.

It may well be the only urrection you ever get, no?



The Jan 6th  allegations are not part of this court case.

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:41pm
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-indictment-hush-money-stormy-daniels-03-31-23/index.html



Meanwhile, Trump attorney Jim Trusty said Friday he expects that the former president's legal team
will file motions to dismiss his indictment before a trial could potentially get underway.

“I would think in very short order, you'll see a motion to dismiss — or several motions to dismiss

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 10:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 7:31pm:
yep - Trump will get out of it -
they tried to impeach him twice - that didn't work -
they can't get him on anything -
yet alone the word of a porno tart.


Like to put a little wager on that?



That if Trump doesn't go to jail - you will leave this forum?


Yes.



It's unlikely that Stormy will send him to jail -
you might have to say goodbye.    ;D


No. Your Dear Leader will go down for insurrection.

Remember that, Bobby.

It may well be the only urrection you ever get, no?



The Jan 6th  allegations are not part of this court case.


You've read my posts, you've responded to them all.

You know as well as I, dear. Silly old Karnal hasn't missed a call yet.

Your Dear Leader is going down and you're drowning, not waving.

When you're willing to sit down and talk, let us know. You have a lot to get off your chest, no?

Title: Re: Stand back and stand by
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:54pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2023 at 11:48pm:
You've read my posts, you've responded to them all.

You know as well as I, dear. Silly old Karnal hasn't missed a call yet.

Your Dear Leader is going down and you're drowning, not waving.

When you're willing to sit down and talk, let us know. You have a lot to get off your chest, no?



Looks to me like you want some?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyyfVI2na9M

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