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Title: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 8th, 2023 at 11:31am
Watching people/kids being pulled out alive from rubble.
There was a newborn baby pulled out alive, having to cut the umbilical cord from the deceased mother! I don’t think I’ve ever heard of such a miraculous rescue as that baby. It’s so hard to watch how many buildings collapsed and people still trapped alive. Praise and thanks to the rescue workers and their efforts. Australia donated $20 million I think it was… it should help with equipment needed and shelter. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Egypt… Post by Frank on Feb 8th, 2023 at 1:05pm
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Sophia wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 11:31am:
Egypt??? |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Egypt… Post by Sophia on Feb 8th, 2023 at 1:22pm Frank wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 1:05pm:
Oops… typo… I fixed it. But you know the one I meant :-/ That baby was born in that rubble… umbilical cord still attached… |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:04pm
See what happens when you take all the lubricating 'oil' from the ever moving crust and tectonic plates.
Suddenly things just don't move smoothly anymore. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:12pm
Tectonic plates are moving because of the molten rock. Oil does sweet f.a. in regards to tectonic plate movement.
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:16pm UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
I guess Oil has just been sitting there doing nothing and waiting for Soviets and Arabs to suck it up, all along eh? ::) |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Gordon on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:23pm |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:46pm Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:16pm:
That’s what I thought for eons… was told that water was put in place of extracted oil… but water isn’t as lubricant as oil. :-/ |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:56pm Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:16pm:
The oil has been sitting there for millions of years, barely being touched by humans until they found a use for it. The oil is not lubricating tectonic plates making them move about more smoothly. Whenever there is a volcanic explosion, it is usually preempted by an earthquake in the region. Tectonic plates make variating movements in response causing more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The oil is sitting well above the mantle and below the Earth's surface. If an eruption of lava mixed with the oil, my guess would be that the oil would be volatile in that it would boil and evaporate. There is not enough oil in the world that could do anything close to floating a continent about on its tectonic plates. It is molten rock that does that. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by John Smith on Feb 8th, 2023 at 5:19pm
oil is a lubricant for the tectonic plates
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:03pm Sophia wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 11:31am:
My Geology teacher at Sydney Uni predicted earthquakes in Turkey would be devastating this was over 20 years ago. Older buildings not designed for quakes fall down pretty quick. Lots of buildings down the death toll will be massive. Predicting when earthquakes or volcanic eruptions happen is still beyond us. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by philperth2010 on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:28pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Yes Baron but one thing is for certain....If you live near the edge of a Tectonic Plate you are going to have an earthquake or eruption sooner or later??? Quote:
:-? :-? :-? https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2023/02/06/scientists-discover-new-clue-to-how-earths-tectonic-plates-move/?sh=72416a2f225a https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/where-do-earthquakes-occur |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:57pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Actually, I find that hard to believe - you went to Uni? :-/ |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Setanta on Feb 8th, 2023 at 7:40pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
That's like a prediction the sun will rise tomorrow. Any geologist or archaeologist would tell you it's been happening for milenia on milenia. Quote:
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:09pm Setanta wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 7:40pm:
Or predict the same catastrophe every year for decades until it happens. Like the bloke who had predicted a global financial crisis every year since the 90s and jagged it in 2008 - then was hailed as a prophet. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:56pm:
I think you need to some geological research. I'm not saying its 'absolute', but it 'may' be a contributing factor. Considering Oil (Decomposed life) has been accumulating since the dawn of life which, as you might know - is a very very very very long time ago (Apes and Humans are just a blink of an eye in the time frame). The world itself has always been in a constant state of Evolution - even geologically. Do you even know why India moved so fast from the connection with the southern Gondwanic lands to crash into Asia? When dramatic changes happen like the extraction of hundreds of millions of years of accumulated oil where parts of the crust are suddenly drained dry and empty - there is ALWAYS side effects and repercussions. You know, there can always be more than one right answer and contributing factor. Only a moron (like Smith) would think there is only one always. Only a fool would dismiss such a possibility of cause and effect. Personally, I really wouldn't be surprised in the least. Oil has been around since the Archean age through the Ediacaran and on. Even if Humans have been extracting just 20% so far to make monoxide into the atmosphere. I'm sure it does have an 'effect' somewhere, sometime. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 5:19pm:
Gronk laughs but he doesn't really know why? ::) |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:54pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Seeing the pictures - those buildings would have each had hundreds of people in them. Quite a mass slaughter to be honest. There has got to be a real change in high rise building structures. Very sad to see such immense destruction and of lives lost without a chance of escape to survive. :( |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 9th, 2023 at 12:09am
Over 11,000 dead now :o
It’s hard to comprehend! It struck after 4am in morning… when most were in bed… families, kids, babies :-[ See this info below. There’s these fault lines surrounding that country! With the history of quakes and deaths… one would think those high rise buildings would be built to a better standard! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Turkey Then I thought of China and what I saw when there… were a lot of high rises … more than anyone could ever imagine! I wondered how they would cope during seismic activity… and I was blown away by the amount of deaths! In 2008….86,587 deaths! But in 1976…..300,000 deaths! :o High rise is not safe in a country with too many fault lines. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 9th, 2023 at 12:19am Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
Jasin, I am a geography major from my studies at university. One of the subjects I studied was geology, weather patterns, and physical forms of tectonic plates. That does not make me an expert by any manner. And I had not gone on to do an honours, masters, or PhD on the topic. And the subject I studied in 1997 is now a 26 year old hazy memory. However, even a non-student of the topic of physical transformation of plate tectonics should be able to look up the topic in respectable sources and find out for themselves how plate tectonics work. Even google images do not show pictures and diagrams of cross sections of the Earth with a floating layer of oil determining continental drift. They are all diagrams of the continental shelf atop molten rock. It is very hot at the centre of the Earth. You find that this causes a heating of the mantle that creates this conveyor belt of molten rock. Over time, pressure builds up and the magma created makes its way to the surface. Otherwise, this magma/molten rock is helping to shift plate tectonics in whatever direction, creating varying degrees of earthquakes. There is not enough oil in the Earth that could come close to match the amount of molten rock. And the oil that is around is in the ground of the continental shelf.... sitting idle... having no effect on that big blob of molten rock slowly shifting the continental shelf. The oil is in the ground. Not under the continents. But accessible to the people drilling for the oil. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 9th, 2023 at 12:37am Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
You really have not got a clue. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by AusGeoff on Feb 9th, 2023 at 3:59am
It's pretty obvious from aerial shots which buildings were not designed
for earthquake loadings—and probably signed off by shonky building surveyors for a brown paper bag of lira. In earthquake zones, structures—particularly reinforced concrete—need to be effectively overdesigned; the collapsed multi-story buildings were not apparently. I'd be guessing there'll be a few Turkish and Syrian civil engineers looking over their shoulders in the days to come. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Jovial Monk on Feb 9th, 2023 at 6:07am UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
There is no “lubrication” LOL! Huge forces—convection currents in the mantle—force plates together. Ocean plates dip under continental ones but there is huge friction. There is no movement because of friction then suddenly the forces cause the ocean plate to move, skipping a few feet and you have your earthquake. Oil lubricating the tectonic plates, LOL! That is some imagination Jason has! |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:41pm
So…. Removing billions of barrels of thick crude gluggy oil from beneath the earth surely must be leaving gaps to make earth move and them plates move too. It’s a sort of displacement.
But what would I know. I’m just seeing it for what it is. This earth… we keep taking and taking…. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:49pm Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
I'm laughing because you're an idiot, that's why. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:59pm Quote:
Nothing to do with plate tectonics it's women with loose morals who are to blame for this. 129162596118957899.jpg (31 KB | 14
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Jovial Monk on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:59pm Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:41pm:
No, mining can cause some subsidence and so can draining an oil or gas field that is not far below the earth’s surface. Nothing like the energy exerted by massive convection currents in the semi-liquid core tho. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:21pm Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:41pm:
Alfred Wegener gets the credit for continental drift around 1912. He was mocked and ridiculed by mainstream science because he couldn't give a mechanism to how this happened. Around 1967 they realised he was right and pulped every geology textbook to embrace plate tectonics. Alfred died about 40 years before this happened. Sinkholes are more of a worry for us we aren't on any fault lines. Alfred.jpg (76 KB | 18
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:41pm
It’s all fascinating and scary (out of our control) but look what I found!
Scuba diving between the tectonic plates between 2 continents! https://www.escape.com.au/destinations/europe/scuba-diving-between-two-tectonic-plates-in-icelands-silfra-fissure/news-story/275d8dc934093720aa5714e53bccf707 |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:45pm Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:41pm:
Yes - that's an awesome and very popular dive destination. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:49pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
And yet 'repetition' is the manner of idiocy and your comebacks are always the same. You're basically laughing at yourself. But hey, someone has to laugh for you, eh? |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:52pm
A lot of mining makes a lot of holes.
Something like the belief that removing oil from the crust does 'nothing of consequence' is bound to collapse. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:01pm
The toll is up to 17,000 now :'(
There are some still alive in rubble sending text messsges. Reading this story with photos of youngsters in a volley ball team really brings it home. :-[ These buildings should’ve had wiggle room to allow for tremor movement without collapsing. Didn’t people learn from the past? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64579269 |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:23pm Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:01pm:
The death toll is going to be much higher. The cold weather ins't going to help. Engineering for earthquakes isn't easy or cheap how big is the earthquake your design has to withstand? The problem is a lot of those buildings were built before any building standards for quakes. The frequency of tremors is why some still stand while others fall. Tall buildings can still be standing while short ones fall and vice versa depending on frequency. We're lucky here it's the Kiwis up to Asia where it becomes a problem. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 10th, 2023 at 5:07pm Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:41pm:
I do not know what sort of effect empty oil fields have on the environment. But, tectonic plates are not affected in movement by emptied oil fields. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 10th, 2023 at 5:12pm
Is this the same country that raped, pillaged, genocided, destroyed a lot of Europe?
Is this the same country that genocides Kurds because they look white and European? |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Frank on Feb 10th, 2023 at 5:14pm
Turkey was struck by a series of earthquakes measuring up to 7.8 on the Richter scale. Which countries have experienced the most earthquakes of over 6 on the scale since 1 January 2020?
Indonesia 41 Papua New Guinea 24 Philippines 23 South Sandwich Islands, US, Vanuatu 22 Chile 19 Japan 17 Fiji 15 Tonga 13 Source: US Geological Survey |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 10th, 2023 at 5:16pm
Death to the Ottomans!!!! >:(
Genociders of unarmed Kurdish peoples. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 10th, 2023 at 5:21pm Jasin wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:52pm:
Explosions used in mining can lead to earthquakes. But the explosions might only cause earlier and less powerful earthquakes. They would not exacerbate earthquakes or create new ones. Just different. Removing oil, gas, and other natural resources from the ground would do minimal changes to tectonic plate movements. Mines might collapse or have some kind of environmental impact over time. But, other than that, there is not much that mine would do to impact tectonic plates. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Setanta on Feb 10th, 2023 at 6:42pm Jasin wrote on Feb 10th, 2023 at 5:16pm:
You mean Armenians? |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by John Smith on Feb 10th, 2023 at 7:39pm Jasin wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:49pm:
You realise making crap up only highlights your level of stupidity, right? |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Xavier on Feb 10th, 2023 at 8:34pm John Smith wrote on Feb 10th, 2023 at 7:39pm:
Well do tell then. Come on - show us how smart you are? Not my fault I can think for myself and not have someone else think for me. But hey - you are a good dog "Sit Ubu, sit". ;) |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 12th, 2023 at 1:20am
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This vid…. Uploaded on Tik Tok … 3am in Turkey before the earthquake hit…. :-/ https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8PWp3Vy/ This is another vid one hour before… shows how animals/birds know…. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8PW9gMs/ And… read comments section why “Twitter” was banned by Turkish govt after earthquake … https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8PWcrYp/ |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Jovial Monk on Feb 12th, 2023 at 8:06am
I imagine there are tiny tremors before it all lets loose that animals with good hearing can detect.
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Sophia on Feb 12th, 2023 at 8:51am Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 12th, 2023 at 8:06am:
Speaking of animals… you will be happy by this dog rescue from rubble … https://youtu.be/MsQClmsu77E |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Jovial Monk on Feb 12th, 2023 at 9:56am
I picture Jason as that dog.
A lucky little mutt that one. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 12th, 2023 at 9:35pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Yep. There's been predications for them in Turkey for years. The country has a number of fault lines running through it. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Jovial Monk on Feb 12th, 2023 at 9:48pm
This is progress, right?
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 14th, 2023 at 10:11pm
Maybe :D
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:53pm
Cultural Marxists at the ABC defer to foreign linguists on the spelling of their country.
Inverted colonialism, innit. This is progress. |
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:03pm
You just don't like me because i am black.
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 15th, 2023 at 11:01pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:03pm:
Don't you be so hard on yourself, Mistie. You too can learn, work hard and, along with the correct personal protective equipment and appropriate safety procedures, apply yourself to be the best you can possibly be, no? Remember, every day in every way, things just get better and better, no? Repeat that each day and who knows? Maybe we'll forget what colour you are. images__64__001.jpeg (52 KB | 13
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Title: Re: That earthquake in Turkey… Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 16th, 2023 at 9:37pm
racist
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