Huh?    :-/

You see signs like this everywhere:

https://sacfl.org/sites/sacfl/files/uploads/images/image000008_1.jpg

I'm not a Christian, so can someone help me out here: is God really pro-life?

If God is pro-life why did he wipe out all of humanity, except for one family, with a flood?

In that one violent act he killed every single man, woman, child, toddler, baby, and pregnant woman on the planet (except for Noah and his family - they must have had connections).

Is that really pro-life?

I'm curious.

if god is pro life, and has the power to control anything and everything, why does goober send so many potential babies into his boyfriends sock?

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 5:00pm:

if god is pro life, and has the power to control anything and everything, why does goober send so many potential babies into his boyfriends sock?

Ouch!   :o

But seriously, there are millions of Christians out there protesting against abortion and using God as their argument.

They carry signs like this:

https://sanantonioreport.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/udc-updates-anti-abortion_photo-by-iris-dimmick1.jpg

But if God is pro-life why did he kill all those babies and pregnant women in the flood he sent to wipe out humanity?

Anyone?   :-/

If God is Pro-Life why did he have his priests performing abortions?

If God is pro-life, he has a funny way of showing it. The Sun will engulf Earth and it won't matter a tinker's fart what God you think started it all. But to be fair, if you want to create a universe, having a God do it is as practical way as any. That being said, it wasn't any God as worshiped by Christians, just going on what is attributed to Christ  in the Bible. He was a glassy-eyed religious fanatic who believed in Noah's Ark. What a moron!  ;D

Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers.

Would any Christians like to step in and defend him?

How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth?

God is a woman - read my short story on the subject....

What if God was one of us...
Had a sprog like one of us....
Had to feel her waters bust..
Tryin' to bring that sprog home...

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 7:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject....

Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet?

THE MEDIA IS PRO-LIFE.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet?

Not Noah and the family though...

Downe at Ye olde Burninge bushe:-

"NOAH!"

"Who dat?"

"It is I, your God!"

"Awr, come on, fellahs - who is that?  Behind that bush are we?"

"It is I (flash of lightning)!"

"OK... OK..."

"That's better!  Now I want you to build me an Ark!"

"What the Hell (sorry) is a Nark?

"An ARK, dummy!  It's ... it's a kind of boat."

"No water around here, Boss...."

"And I want it twenty cubits long and ten wide...."

"Whoa... whoa.... where am I going to get all that timber?  This is the desert!"

"Always with the negative waves!  HERE!"  (forest appears)....

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though...

No.

But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies.

Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)?

Not one Christian has the guts to address this.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 8:58pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Not one Christian has the guts to address this.

Well, sadly, there are some on this Earth who should not be living - you've known some  - many have known some... there ARE people who do not deserve the privilege and are essentially not humans.  There may be good and bad in everyone, but there are limits....

Do you believe people who cause grievous harm to others and take pleasure in doing so should live?

Of course God is Pro Life! God created life. Life is all around us! It's in plants and animals and in human beings.

We ie humans have responded by systematically:

1. destroying ourselves and each other

2. destroying our natural environment by polluting the land, sea and air

3. abusing and destroying the vulnerable ie children and animals

In effect we have demonstrated that we are Anti Life.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

Of course God is Pro Life! God created life. Life is all around us! It's in plants and animals and in human beings. We ie humans have responded by systematically: 1. destroying ourselves and each other 2. destroying our natural environment by polluting the land, sea and air 3. abusing and destroying the vulnerable ie children and animals In effect we have demonstrated that we are Anti Life.

No wonder God put it through the dishwasher ..... Heavenly reboot..... humans are a disease on the planet - most of them do not know that.... as an Alien with Rh neg, I stand aside from all this.... and long for the stars...... and dream the dreams.....

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

Of course God is Pro Life!

Really?

Then why did God kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet with a flood?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 8:58pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)?

Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life.
You gonna judge now?

Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 8:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:58pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life. Kinda obvious. God knows best, no?

So God isn't pro-life then.

Why do you Christians lie about that?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 8:06am:

Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:58pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life. Kinda obvious. God knows best, no? So God isn't pro-life then. Why do you Christians lie about that?

He is. Life goes on, doesn't it?
It was a massive weeding exercise. Spring clean. Clearing out the rubbish.

Are you judging now?

Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:06am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:58pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life. Kinda obvious. God knows best, no? So God isn't pro-life then. Why do you Christians lie about that? He is.

No, it isn't.

It killed every single baby and pregnant mother on the planet.

There's no amount of twisting and turning that can turn that into pro-life.

No amount of excuses - it's still anti-life.

God killed every baby on the planet, along with every single pregnant woman.

Christians are kidding themselves if they think their worthless God is pro-life.

He ain't!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 6:39am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 11:33pm: Of course God is Pro Life! Really? Then why did God kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet with a flood?

Furthermore if God is pro- life why does he/she allow babies, infants & toddlers to get terminal cancers?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo&ab_channel=RT%C3%89-IRELAND%E2%80%99SNATIONALPUBLICSERVICEMEDIA

Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

He is. Life goes on, doesn't it? It was a massive weeding exercise. Spring clean. Clearing out the rubbish. Are you judging now?

Looks like another Major Reset coming, too... that's why Lifeboat Australia needs to lock the gates and stop bringing in all these people to crowd the joint and create absolute chaos and corpses everywhere when the plague or whatever hits or to grab for guns and charge around trying to take over the place from honest people now disarmed and unable to defend against criminals...

Thanks a lot Howard....

As a nation we need to return to a productive one and start making and growing our own again.... and stop playing this loser 'global economy' BS and just tell 'em we're not playing any more by their rules.... love it or leave it.  If your company works here it pays 30% tax on gross, just like Joe Bloggs does....... we'll talk about adjustments later.

When the Great Plague hit Britain in 2025, crowded as it was then.... the streets were literally paved with corpses rotting and spreading even more disease, such was the parlous state of any government body tasked with clearing up the corpses.... entire villages wre bare of people and major cities contained only a few living like rats in the cellars and desperately coming out at night to fight over any food that could be found.... West Indian and Pakistani suburbs were black with bodies... and survivors fought one another to board the 'ghost ships' leaving for the old colonies..... where they were being turned away daily ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Ul0thfc_Q

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 9:24am:

Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:09am: He is. Life goes on, doesn't it? It was a massive weeding exercise. Spring clean. Clearing out the rubbish. Are you judging now? Looks like another Major Reset coming, too... that's why Lifeboat Australia needs to lock the gates and stop bringing in all these people to crowd the joint and create absolute chaos and corpses everywhere when the plague or whatever hits or to grab for guns and charge around trying to take over the place from honest people now disarmed and unable to defend against criminals... Thanks a lot Howard.... As a nation we need to return to a productive one and start making and growing our own again.... and stop playing this loser 'global economy' BS and just tell 'em we're not playing any more by their rules.... love it or leave it.  If your company works here it pays 30% tax on gross, just like Joe Bloggs does....... we'll talk about adjustments later. When the Great Plague hit Britain in 2025, crowded as it was then.... the streets were literally paved with corpses rotting and spreading even more disease, such was the parlous state of any government body tasked with clearing up the corpses.... entire villages wre bare of people and major cities contained only a few living like rats in the cellars and desperately coming out at night to fight over any food that could be found.... West Indian and Pakistani suburbs were black with bodies... and survivors fought one another to board the 'ghost ships' leaving for the old colonies..... where they were being turned away daily .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Ul0thfc_Q

Loved that skit...... & the movie. ;D

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

Of course God is Pro Life! God created life. Life is all around us! It's in plants and animals and in human beings. We ie humans have responded by systematically: 1. destroying ourselves and each other 2. destroying our natural environment by polluting the land, sea and air 3. abusing and destroying the vulnerable ie children and animals In effect we have demonstrated that we are Anti Life.

I wasn't going to get into this but the topic has progressed so here it is :

In the Holy Bible God says quite clearly that His Spirit will not always strive with humanity.

Humanity has seen fit to continue to deny God, deny His existence even, deny His Word, deny His counsel.

And God Himself says that humanity will become as evil as it was back in the days of Noah before God visits this planet AGAIN. In judgement. God even talks about NATURE GROANING in agony. Yes our environment will be THAT abused by humanity that it will not be able to sustain healthy LIFE.

God allowed humanity to be destroyed back then ... with water. Next time God will do the same .... but with fire.

Atheists, agnostics and even God haters seem to think that God is some entity who functions according to their feeble finite minded ideas and rules regarding justice. God isn't their puppet. Nor is He their dog who exists to learn how to obey them.

Make no mistake ... if you continue to reject God, reject God's existence, reject God's holiness, reject God's laws regarding justice, reject God's offer of salvation and eternal life, reject God's Word....you are doomed to die and never see God's face or God's Heaven.

Your life here on Earth is tenuous. Even if you were lucky to live a long life here on Earth you'd be looking at a period of less than 100 yrs. And during those years your eyes will witness gross violence and abuse targeted at the health of people, our water supplies, our air, our environment, plants and those vulnerable such as children and animals....your eyes will see and your heart will be vexed by the agony suffered around you. Humanity's history blatantly records the relentless disrespect and disregard of all that God intended for us here on this planet. Planet Earth. It started with our first ancestors and continues to this day. Why? God created us with FREE WILL. Our choices reflect our free will. Our choices determine our future both here and afterwards.

Is God Pro Life? He's more than that...He's Pro Eternal Life!

Why do you think God sent His only Son Jesus here to this revolting hell hole? It was so that we who were once estranged could now return to God by choosing to accept God's invitation to save us. Save us from what? Our sins, mistakes, ourselves. Our ways are not His ways (the Holy Bible says this). Our ways consist of minefields riddled with mistakes and misery.

God's way is the way to life. Eternal Life. Everlasting Life. Not what WE think is life ... here on earth.

I'm not on OzPol to convince/convert anyone. I'm in this topic only because I'm answering a post directed at me.

I've got enough trouble trying to convince my own husband who is an avid agnostic. It's frustrating me no end. I refuse to accept the possibility of getting into Heaven and not finding him there. He means a lot to me. However .... and this isn't easy for me to post this: even if my own husband or child flatly refuse God's existence and God's invitation to come clean and repent of all past mistakes/sins....I can't do much more about it. Why? They have the FREE WILL to make their own choices.

Final thoughts : God says quite clearly that His Heavenly Kingdom will suffer VIOLENCE and THE VIOLENT will take it by force. But many will be left outside. Why? Their faith and belief was not violent/strong enough to push through. They dithered instead.

Which brings me back to Noah. At the last minute...people panicked and trampled over each other trying to get into the safety of the Ark. Unfortunately it was too late. God closed the door of that Ark firmly shut. Those who believed and maintained the faith ... got in and stayed safe. Everyone else chose ie exercised their FREE WILL to mock, to deny, to verbally abuse, ridicule and live their life according to how they saw fit ie totally rejecting God's laws and God's terms of justice.

The Ark represented the safety of God's Kingdom.

NOW is the time for you to decide if you want to be inside that kingdom or not. It's your decision. You have free will.

And you can forget about the idea of a death bed repentance and belief scenario too.

Those who think they can believe in the 11th hr die at 10.30.

Cheers

Happy Australia Day ( 31 degrees 🥺 )

Gnads wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 9:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 6:39am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 11:33pm: Of course God is Pro Life! Really? Then why did God kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet with a flood? Furthermore if God is pro- life why does he/she allow babies, infants & toddlers to get terminal cancers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo&ab_channel=RT%C3%89-IRELAND%E2%80%99SNATIONALPUBLICSERVICEMEDIA

Fascinating clip. Never seen that one.

Look, guys - god has a whole Multiverse to look after - it's not a big deal that a little plumbing problem on level three of a single apartment block got a little out of control... Noah was sent in to fix it and the Rainbow set was born...

Backe to Ye Olde Burning Bushe:-

"Say - what's a cubit?"

**rolls eyes** "Noah it's a length from your elbow to your middle finger tip.... let's revise those figures then - you'll need to build this ARK - got that? - about five hundred cubits long and about 100 wide....and high enough so the deck stays out of the water..."

"Deck?  You didn't say 'deck' as well!"

"You'll need a deck to keep the rain out....."

"RAIN?  Hey... Boss - this IS the desert..."

"Trust me - it's coming!"

"Yeah - I mean - but how bad can it be to need a... an... ARK with a deck?"

"Trust me on this - pretty bad!  And you'll need to build stalls for all the animals...."

"Whoa... WHOA... nobody said anything about animals.... smelly... jeez..."

"ALL animals, two by two mated pairs, Noah.."

"Yeah - but some of those bite... you know!"

"I'll keep them placid for you, OK?  And don't you forget my unicorns!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcPxhX_VQ3U

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 8:55am:

Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:09am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:06am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:58pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life. Kinda obvious. God knows best, no? So God isn't pro-life then. Why do you Christians lie about that? He is. No, it isn't. It killed every single baby and pregnant mother on the planet. There's no amount of twisting and turning that can turn that into pro-life. No amount of excuses - it's still anti-life. God killed every baby on the planet, along with every single pregnant woman. Christians are kidding themselves if they think their worthless God is pro-life. He ain't!

You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc.

That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify.

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 7:22am:

You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify.

Questioning why God drowned everybody is "demanding God be like you" and demanding of approval?

Frank, do you just like, get really upset before you type or something?

mothra wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 7:25am:

Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. Questioning why God drowned everybody is "demanding God be like you" and demanding of approval? Frank, do you just like, get really upset before you type or something?

Do you REALLY take every parable literally, like turdy? Do you really believe every religious creation STORY, every flood STORY? Are you really so stupid as to take every imaginative tale literally -  Including the Aboriginal Bundaba Flood Story?  Almost every culture has flood stories where most living things drown but then life returns.
Do you take them ALL literally, frightbat, or just Noah's story, to score triumphant idiocy points together with turdy?

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

mothra wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:25am: Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. Questioning why God drowned everybody is "demanding God be like you" and demanding of approval? Frank, do you just like, get really upset before you type or something? Do you REALLY take every parable literally, like turdy? Do you really believe every religious creation STORY, every flood STORY? Are you really so stupid as to take every imaginative tale literally -  Including the Aboriginal Bundaba Flood Story?  Almost every culture has flood stories where most living things drown but then life returns. Do you take them ALL literally, frightbat, or just Noah's story, to score triumphant idiocy points together with turdy?

Ah.

So when you Christians say "God is pro-life", it's not meant to be taken literally?

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 7:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:55am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:09am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:06am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:58pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life. Kinda obvious. God knows best, no? So God isn't pro-life then. Why do you Christians lie about that? He is. No, it isn't. It killed every single baby and pregnant mother on the planet. There's no amount of twisting and turning that can turn that into pro-life. No amount of excuses - it's still anti-life. God killed every baby on the planet, along with every single pregnant woman. Christians are kidding themselves if they think their worthless God is pro-life. He ain't! You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify.

No.  Nothing to do with me.

I'm questioning how Christians protesting abortion can say their God is pro-life when they believe in a story that says he deliberately killed every single baby and pregnant woman on the planet.

They seem to pick and choose a lot.

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

mothra wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:25am: Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. Questioning why God drowned everybody is "demanding God be like you" and demanding of approval? Frank, do you just like, get really upset before you type or something? Do you REALLY take every parable literally, like turdy? Do you really believe every religious creation STORY, every flood STORY? Are you really so stupid as to take every imaginative tale literally -  Including the Aboriginal Bundaba Flood Story?  Almost every culture has flood stories where most living things drown but then life returns. Do you take them ALL literally, frightbat, or just Noah's story, to score triumphant idiocy points together with turdy?

No. I'm not invested in any of it.

I certainly don;t use my selective interpretations of any of it to look down upon my fellow humans. I mean, it's just all so contradictory.

I do know that the teachings of Jesus were, for the most part, pretty ace. Damn shame most Christians don't follow any of them.

Charity, humility and meekness, turning the other cheek, telling the truth certainly not followed by christians overmuch. They go to church as a tiresome duty.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 7:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:55am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:09am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:06am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:58pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life. Kinda obvious. God knows best, no? So God isn't pro-life then. Why do you Christians lie about that? He is. No, it isn't. It killed every single baby and pregnant mother on the planet. There's no amount of twisting and turning that can turn that into pro-life. No amount of excuses - it's still anti-life. God killed every baby on the planet, along with every single pregnant woman. Christians are kidding themselves if they think their worthless God is pro-life. He ain't! You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. No.  Nothing to do with me. I'm questioning how Christians protesting abortion can say their God is pro-life when they believe in a story that says he deliberately killed every single baby and pregnant woman on the planet. They seem to pick and choose a lot.

Lying, stupid dishonest turd. Who wrote the highlighted post? You.
And in what capacity are you speaking for Christians or anyone else, shitfer stinker?

This is another version of your 'I will leave if Trump wins" congenital dishonesty, turd. You do not have an honest or honourable bone in your body.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 8:05am:

Charity, humility and meekness, turning the other cheek, telling the truth certainly not followed by christians overmuch. They go to church as a tiresome duty.

Once a week Christians that go to church on Sunday to clean the sheet so they can be tnucs for the following week.

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 8:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:59am: Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:55am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:09am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:06am: Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 8:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:58pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 8:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:34pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 7:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 5:35pm: Seems like this God dude (I assume it's a dude) is a bit of a hypocrite, just like his followers. Would any Christians like to step in and defend him? How can he be pro-life if he killed (drowned) every single baby and pregnant woman on Earth? God is a woman - read my short story on the subject.... Well then, if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet? Not Noah and the family though... No. But as far as I know Noah's wife wasn't pregnant and none of their kids were babies. Even if they were though: if God is a woman and she's pro-life, why did she kill every baby and every pregnant woman on the planet (except for the Noah family)? Because they all became like you, Bbwian, mothra, pb etc. There was no other way for the renewal of life. Kinda obvious. God knows best, no? So God isn't pro-life then. Why do you Christians lie about that? He is. No, it isn't. It killed every single baby and pregnant mother on the planet. There's no amount of twisting and turning that can turn that into pro-life. No amount of excuses - it's still anti-life. God killed every baby on the planet, along with every single pregnant woman. Christians are kidding themselves if they think their worthless God is pro-life. He ain't! You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. No.  Nothing to do with me. I'm questioning how Christians protesting abortion can say their God is pro-life when they believe in a story that says he deliberately killed every single baby and pregnant woman on the planet. They seem to pick and choose a lot. Lying, stupid dishonest turd. Who wrote the highlighted post? You. And in what capacity are you speaking for Christians or anyone else, shitfer stinker? This is another version of your 'I will leave if Trump wins" congenital dishonesty, turd. You do not have an honest or honourable bone in your body.

How can Christians protesting abortion say that their God is pro-life when at the same time they believe in a story that says he deliberately killed every single baby and pregnant woman on the planet?

I'm curious.

Frank: is this you in the beanie, carrying the banner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va14oiiZ6U8

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 8:18am:

How can Christians protesting abortion say that their God is pro-life when at the same time they believe in a story that says he deliberately killed every single baby and pregnant woman on the planet? I'm curious.

Quote:

deliberately killed every single baby and pregnant woman on the planet?

And is planning to do it again. The day of reckoning cometh.

One of the interesting things about the right to life movement against Roe V Wade is that it started more than 5 years after the Roe V Wade decision and then it was a case of the Religious right following the political direction. It was never a genuine moral religious position.

The right to life movement was originally primarily a for political advantage creation that was picked up very late by the religious right.

Many of the biggest proponents of the right to life movement had originally supported Roe V Wade.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 11:33pm: Of course God is Pro Life! God created life. Life is all around us! It's in plants and animals and in human beings. We ie humans have responded by systematically: 1. destroying ourselves and each other 2. destroying our natural environment by polluting the land, sea and air 3. abusing and destroying the vulnerable ie children and animals In effect we have demonstrated that we are Anti Life. I wasn't going to get into this but the topic has progressed so here it is : In the Holy Bible God says quite clearly that His Spirit will not always strive with humanity. Humanity has seen fit to continue to deny God, deny His existence even, deny His Word, deny His counsel. And God Himself says that humanity will become as evil as it was back in the days of Noah before God visits this planet AGAIN. In judgement. God even talks about NATURE GROANING in agony. Yes our environment will be THAT abused by humanity that it will not be able to sustain healthy LIFE. God allowed humanity to be destroyed back then ... with water. Next time God will do the same .... but with fire. Atheists, agnostics and even God haters seem to think that God is some entity who functions according to their feeble finite minded ideas and rules regarding justice. God isn't their puppet. Nor is He their dog who exists to learn how to obey them. Make no mistake ... if you continue to reject God, reject God's existence, reject God's holiness, reject God's laws regarding justice, reject God's offer of salvation and eternal life, reject God's Word....you are doomed to die and never see God's face or God's Heaven. Your life here on Earth is tenuous. Even if you were lucky to live a long life here on Earth you'd be looking at a period of less than 100 yrs. And during those years your eyes will witness gross violence and abuse targeted at the health of people, our water supplies, our air, our environment, plants and those vulnerable such as children and animals....your eyes will see and your heart will be vexed by the agony suffered around you. Humanity's history blatantly records the relentless disrespect and disregard of all that God intended for us here on this planet. Planet Earth. It started with our first ancestors and continues to this day. Why? God created us with FREE WILL. Our choices reflect our free will. Our choices determine our future both here and afterwards. Is God Pro Life? He's more than that...He's Pro Eternal Life! Why do you think God sent His only Son Jesus here to this revolting hell hole? It was so that we who were once estranged could now return to God by choosing to accept God's invitation to save us. Save us from what? Our sins, mistakes, ourselves. Our ways are not His ways (the Holy Bible says this). Our ways consist of minefields riddled with mistakes and misery. God's way is the way to life. Eternal Life. Everlasting Life. Not what WE think is life ... here on earth. I'm not on OzPol to convince/convert anyone. I'm in this topic only because I'm answering a post directed at me. I've got enough trouble trying to convince my own husband who is an avid agnostic. It's frustrating me no end. I refuse to accept the possibility of getting into Heaven and not finding him there. He means a lot to me. However .... and this isn't easy for me to post this: even if my own husband or child flatly refuse God's existence and God's invitation to come clean and repent of all past mistakes/sins....I can't do much more about it. Why? They have the FREE WILL to make their own choices. Final thoughts : God says quite clearly that His Heavenly Kingdom will suffer VIOLENCE and THE VIOLENT will take it by force. But many will be left outside. Why? Their faith and belief was not violent/strong enough to push through. They dithered instead. Which brings me back to Noah. At the last minute...people panicked and trampled over each other trying to get into the safety of the Ark. Unfortunately it was too late. God closed the door of that Ark firmly shut. Those who believed and maintained the faith ... got in and stayed safe. Everyone else chose ie exercised their FREE WILL to mock, to deny, to verbally abuse, ridicule and live their life according to how they saw fit ie totally rejecting God's laws and God's terms of justice. The Ark represented the safety of God's Kingdom. NOW is the time for you to decide if you want to be inside that kingdom or not. It's your decision. You have free will. And you can forget about the idea of a death bed repentance and belief scenario too. Those who think they can believe in the 11th hr die at 10.30. Cheers Happy Australia Day ( 31 degrees 🥺 )

You could hardly make a stronger case to support that God is not Pro Life.

Gnads wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 8:07am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 8:05am: Charity, humility and meekness, turning the other cheek, telling the truth certainly not followed by christians overmuch. They go to church as a tiresome duty. Once a week Christians that go to church on Sunday to clean the sheet so they can be tnucs for the following week.

.too That

The Ark is the Epic of Gilgamesh (about a flood in the Tigris or Euphrates) reworked to suit a Jewish audience.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 3:12pm:

Huh?    :-/ You see signs like this everywhere: https://sacfl.org/sites/sacfl/files/uploads/images/image000008_1.jpg I'm not a Christian, so can someone help me out here: is God really pro-life?

In the picture here the pregnancy is well over 24 weeks. This is not relevant to Roe V Wade. Typical of the dishonesty.

https://sacfl.org/sites/sacfl/files/uploads/images/image000008_1.jpg

Dnarever wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 9:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 10:58am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 11:33pm: Of course God is Pro Life! God created life. Life is all around us! It's in plants and animals and in human beings. We ie humans have responded by systematically: 1. destroying ourselves and each other 2. destroying our natural environment by polluting the land, sea and air 3. abusing and destroying the vulnerable ie children and animals In effect we have demonstrated that we are Anti Life. I wasn't going to get into this but the topic has progressed so here it is : In the Holy Bible God says quite clearly that His Spirit will not always strive with humanity. Humanity has seen fit to continue to deny God, deny His existence even, deny His Word, deny His counsel. And God Himself says that humanity will become as evil as it was back in the days of Noah before God visits this planet AGAIN. In judgement. God even talks about NATURE GROANING in agony. Yes our environment will be THAT abused by humanity that it will not be able to sustain healthy LIFE. God allowed humanity to be destroyed back then ... with water. Next time God will do the same .... but with fire. Atheists, agnostics and even God haters seem to think that God is some entity who functions according to their feeble finite minded ideas and rules regarding justice. God isn't their puppet. Nor is He their dog who exists to learn how to obey them. Make no mistake ... if you continue to reject God, reject God's existence, reject God's holiness, reject God's laws regarding justice, reject God's offer of salvation and eternal life, reject God's Word....you are doomed to die and never see God's face or God's Heaven. Your life here on Earth is tenuous. Even if you were lucky to live a long life here on Earth you'd be looking at a period of less than 100 yrs. And during those years your eyes will witness gross violence and abuse targeted at the health of people, our water supplies, our air, our environment, plants and those vulnerable such as children and animals....your eyes will see and your heart will be vexed by the agony suffered around you. Humanity's history blatantly records the relentless disrespect and disregard of all that God intended for us here on this planet. Planet Earth. It started with our first ancestors and continues to this day. Why? God created us with FREE WILL. Our choices reflect our free will. Our choices determine our future both here and afterwards. Is God Pro Life? He's more than that...He's Pro Eternal Life! Why do you think God sent His only Son Jesus here to this revolting hell hole? It was so that we who were once estranged could now return to God by choosing to accept God's invitation to save us. Save us from what? Our sins, mistakes, ourselves. Our ways are not His ways (the Holy Bible says this). Our ways consist of minefields riddled with mistakes and misery. God's way is the way to life. Eternal Life. Everlasting Life. Not what WE think is life ... here on earth. I'm not on OzPol to convince/convert anyone. I'm in this topic only because I'm answering a post directed at me. I've got enough trouble trying to convince my own husband who is an avid agnostic. It's frustrating me no end. I refuse to accept the possibility of getting into Heaven and not finding him there. He means a lot to me. However .... and this isn't easy for me to post this: even if my own husband or child flatly refuse God's existence and God's invitation to come clean and repent of all past mistakes/sins....I can't do much more about it. Why? They have the FREE WILL to make their own choices. Final thoughts : God says quite clearly that His Heavenly Kingdom will suffer VIOLENCE and THE VIOLENT will take it by force. But many will be left outside. Why? Their faith and belief was not violent/strong enough to push through. They dithered instead. Which brings me back to Noah. At the last minute...people panicked and trampled over each other trying to get into the safety of the Ark. Unfortunately it was too late. God closed the door of that Ark firmly shut. Those who believed and maintained the faith ... got in and stayed safe. Everyone else chose ie exercised their FREE WILL to mock, to deny, to verbally abuse, ridicule and live their life according to how they saw fit ie totally rejecting God's laws and God's terms of justice. The Ark represented the safety of God's Kingdom. NOW is the time for you to decide if you want to be inside that kingdom or not. It's your decision. You have free will. And you can forget about the idea of a death bed repentance and belief scenario too. Those who think they can believe in the 11th hr die at 10.30. Cheers Happy Australia Day ( 31 degrees 🥺 ) You could hardly make a stronger case to support that God is not Pro Life.

You couldn't be more mistaken. In any event my posts were directed at the person who initially asked the question ie Greggary.

Gnads wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 8:07am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 8:05am: Charity, humility and meekness, turning the other cheek, telling the truth certainly not followed by christians overmuch. They go to church as a tiresome duty. Once a week Christians that go to church on Sunday to clean the sheet so they can be tnucs for the following week.

Could YOU (plural) stick to the topic? Please? Or is that too much to ask? 😐

Christians say god is pro–life.

Pointing out that Christians are hypocrites is therefor on topic.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 9:18am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 9:01am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 10:58am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 11:33pm: Of course God is Pro Life! God created life. Life is all around us! It's in plants and animals and in human beings. We ie humans have responded by systematically: 1. destroying ourselves and each other 2. destroying our natural environment by polluting the land, sea and air 3. abusing and destroying the vulnerable ie children and animals In effect we have demonstrated that we are Anti Life. I wasn't going to get into this but the topic has progressed so here it is : In the Holy Bible God says quite clearly that His Spirit will not always strive with humanity. Humanity has seen fit to continue to deny God, deny His existence even, deny His Word, deny His counsel. And God Himself says that humanity will become as evil as it was back in the days of Noah before God visits this planet AGAIN. In judgement. God even talks about NATURE GROANING in agony. Yes our environment will be THAT abused by humanity that it will not be able to sustain healthy LIFE. God allowed humanity to be destroyed back then ... with water. Next time God will do the same .... but with fire. Atheists, agnostics and even God haters seem to think that God is some entity who functions according to their feeble finite minded ideas and rules regarding justice. God isn't their puppet. Nor is He their dog who exists to learn how to obey them. Make no mistake ... if you continue to reject God, reject God's existence, reject God's holiness, reject God's laws regarding justice, reject God's offer of salvation and eternal life, reject God's Word....you are doomed to die and never see God's face or God's Heaven. Your life here on Earth is tenuous. Even if you were lucky to live a long life here on Earth you'd be looking at a period of less than 100 yrs. And during those years your eyes will witness gross violence and abuse targeted at the health of people, our water supplies, our air, our environment, plants and those vulnerable such as children and animals....your eyes will see and your heart will be vexed by the agony suffered around you. Humanity's history blatantly records the relentless disrespect and disregard of all that God intended for us here on this planet. Planet Earth. It started with our first ancestors and continues to this day. Why? God created us with FREE WILL. Our choices reflect our free will. Our choices determine our future both here and afterwards. Is God Pro Life? He's more than that...He's Pro Eternal Life! Why do you think God sent His only Son Jesus here to this revolting hell hole? It was so that we who were once estranged could now return to God by choosing to accept God's invitation to save us. Save us from what? Our sins, mistakes, ourselves. Our ways are not His ways (the Holy Bible says this). Our ways consist of minefields riddled with mistakes and misery. God's way is the way to life. Eternal Life. Everlasting Life. Not what WE think is life ... here on earth. I'm not on OzPol to convince/convert anyone. I'm in this topic only because I'm answering a post directed at me. I've got enough trouble trying to convince my own husband who is an avid agnostic. It's frustrating me no end. I refuse to accept the possibility of getting into Heaven and not finding him there. He means a lot to me. However .... and this isn't easy for me to post this: even if my own husband or child flatly refuse God's existence and God's invitation to come clean and repent of all past mistakes/sins....I can't do much more about it. Why? They have the FREE WILL to make their own choices. Final thoughts : God says quite clearly that His Heavenly Kingdom will suffer VIOLENCE and THE VIOLENT will take it by force. But many will be left outside. Why? Their faith and belief was not violent/strong enough to push through. They dithered instead. Which brings me back to Noah. At the last minute...people panicked and trampled over each other trying to get into the safety of the Ark. Unfortunately it was too late. God closed the door of that Ark firmly shut. Those who believed and maintained the faith ... got in and stayed safe. Everyone else chose ie exercised their FREE WILL to mock, to deny, to verbally abuse, ridicule and live their life according to how they saw fit ie totally rejecting God's laws and God's terms of justice. The Ark represented the safety of God's Kingdom. NOW is the time for you to decide if you want to be inside that kingdom or not. It's your decision. You have free will. And you can forget about the idea of a death bed repentance and belief scenario too. Those who think they can believe in the 11th hr die at 10.30. Cheers Happy Australia Day ( 31 degrees 🥺 ) You could hardly make a stronger case to support that God is not Pro Life. You couldn't be more mistaken. In any event my posts were directed at the person who initially asked the question ie Greggary.

Ahh Greggary is offline. Never mind. Time for a cuppa ....and more pain relief. 🥺

There are two forces at work to affect our lives and how long we survive…
Apart from our own hands…murder, suicide, accident….
And those two are…..nature, and the guv’ment.

Gods seems to have no say in the matter.

Sophia wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 9:31am:

There are two forces at work to affect our lives and how long we survive… Apart from our own hands…murder, suicide, accident…. And those two are…..nature, and the guv’ment. Gods seems to have no say in the matter.

Interesting post.

At the end of the day ... it's really all about FREE WILL ie our freedom to choose what decisions and actions we undertake in our life.

Our decisions and actions will reflect a blatant disrespect and disregard for the laws of justice which affect our society or they will reflect a regard and respect for them.

The same applies wrt our decisions and actions regarding God. We will either choose to blatantly disrespect and disregard Him/His laws as they pertain to justice or we will regard and respect them.

An observation/anecdote : I'm often told that God must be an awful and nasty entity if He rejects people and does not let them into Heaven.  It's the other way round : people reject God....they reject His very existence and relevance even. People CHOOSE to do the rejecting. Why? They have FREE WILL.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 9:29am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 9:18am: Dnarever wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 9:01am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 26th, 2023 at 10:58am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2023 at 11:33pm: Of course God is Pro Life! God created life. Life is all around us! It's in plants and animals and in human beings. We ie humans have responded by systematically: 1. destroying ourselves and each other 2. destroying our natural environment by polluting the land, sea and air 3. abusing and destroying the vulnerable ie children and animals In effect we have demonstrated that we are Anti Life. I wasn't going to get into this but the topic has progressed so here it is : In the Holy Bible God says quite clearly that His Spirit will not always strive with humanity. Humanity has seen fit to continue to deny God, deny His existence even, deny His Word, deny His counsel. And God Himself says that humanity will become as evil as it was back in the days of Noah before God visits this planet AGAIN. In judgement. God even talks about NATURE GROANING in agony. Yes our environment will be THAT abused by humanity that it will not be able to sustain healthy LIFE. God allowed humanity to be destroyed back then ... with water. Next time God will do the same .... but with fire. Atheists, agnostics and even God haters seem to think that God is some entity who functions according to their feeble finite minded ideas and rules regarding justice. God isn't their puppet. Nor is He their dog who exists to learn how to obey them. Make no mistake ... if you continue to reject God, reject God's existence, reject God's holiness, reject God's laws regarding justice, reject God's offer of salvation and eternal life, reject God's Word....you are doomed to die and never see God's face or God's Heaven. Your life here on Earth is tenuous. Even if you were lucky to live a long life here on Earth you'd be looking at a period of less than 100 yrs. And during those years your eyes will witness gross violence and abuse targeted at the health of people, our water supplies, our air, our environment, plants and those vulnerable such as children and animals....your eyes will see and your heart will be vexed by the agony suffered around you. Humanity's history blatantly records the relentless disrespect and disregard of all that God intended for us here on this planet. Planet Earth. It started with our first ancestors and continues to this day. Why? God created us with FREE WILL. Our choices reflect our free will. Our choices determine our future both here and afterwards. Is God Pro Life? He's more than that...He's Pro Eternal Life! Why do you think God sent His only Son Jesus here to this revolting hell hole? It was so that we who were once estranged could now return to God by choosing to accept God's invitation to save us. Save us from what? Our sins, mistakes, ourselves. Our ways are not His ways (the Holy Bible says this). Our ways consist of minefields riddled with mistakes and misery. God's way is the way to life. Eternal Life. Everlasting Life. Not what WE think is life ... here on earth. I'm not on OzPol to convince/convert anyone. I'm in this topic only because I'm answering a post directed at me. I've got enough trouble trying to convince my own husband who is an avid agnostic. It's frustrating me no end. I refuse to accept the possibility of getting into Heaven and not finding him there. He means a lot to me. However .... and this isn't easy for me to post this: even if my own husband or child flatly refuse God's existence and God's invitation to come clean and repent of all past mistakes/sins....I can't do much more about it. Why? They have the FREE WILL to make their own choices. Final thoughts : God says quite clearly that His Heavenly Kingdom will suffer VIOLENCE and THE VIOLENT will take it by force. But many will be left outside. Why? Their faith and belief was not violent/strong enough to push through. They dithered instead. Which brings me back to Noah. At the last minute...people panicked and trampled over each other trying to get into the safety of the Ark. Unfortunately it was too late. God closed the door of that Ark firmly shut. Those who believed and maintained the faith ... got in and stayed safe. Everyone else chose ie exercised their FREE WILL to mock, to deny, to verbally abuse, ridicule and live their life according to how they saw fit ie totally rejecting God's laws and God's terms of justice. The Ark represented the safety of God's Kingdom. NOW is the time for you to decide if you want to be inside that kingdom or not. It's your decision. You have free will. And you can forget about the idea of a death bed repentance and belief scenario too. Those who think they can believe in the 11th hr die at 10.30. Cheers Happy Australia Day ( 31 degrees 🥺 ) You could hardly make a stronger case to support that God is not Pro Life. You couldn't be more mistaken. In any event my posts were directed at the person who initially asked the question ie Greggary. Ahh Greggary is offline. Never mind. Time for a cuppa ....and more pain relief. 🥺

Sis or seven Mersyndol?

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

Sophia wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 9:31am: There are two forces at work to affect our lives and how long we survive… Apart from our own hands…murder, suicide, accident…. And those two are…..nature, and the guv’ment. Gods seems to have no say in the matter. Interesting post. At the end of the day ... it's really all about FREE WILL ie our freedom to choose what decisions and actions we undertake in our life. Our decisions and actions will reflect a blatant disrespect and disregard for the laws of justice which affect our society or they will reflect a regard and respect for them. The same applies wrt our decisions and actions regarding God. We will either choose to blatantly disrespect and disregard Him/His laws as they pertain to justice or we will regard and respect them. An observation/anecdote : I'm often told that God must be an awful and nasty entity if He rejects people and does not let them into Heaven.  It's the other way round : people reject God....they reject His very existence and relevance even. People CHOOSE to do the rejecting. Why? They have FREE WILL.

I'm ok to respond to relevant on topic comments.

Go right ahead Sophia and Greggary.

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

mothra wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:25am: Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. Questioning why God drowned everybody is "demanding God be like you" and demanding of approval? Frank, do you just like, get really upset before you type or something? Do you REALLY take every parable literally, like turdy? Do you really believe every religious creation STORY, every flood STORY?

Just to confirm then: if a passage in the Bible talks about God doing something good, it's to be taken literally but if it's something bad it's just a "story" that never really happened?

Yeah?   :-/

Up at Ye Olde Pearly Gates:-

"OK, guys - looks like the only way we're going to put out that fire down there is to flood the joint..."

"Be a lot of people killed!"

"Oh - those that can get on a boat will be all right... no other way with Hell out of control like that.... let 'er go, Pete!"

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Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

Sophia wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 9:31am: There are two forces at work to affect our lives and how long we survive… Apart from our own hands…murder, suicide, accident…. And those two are…..nature, and the guv’ment. Gods seems to have no say in the matter. Interesting post. At the end of the day ... it's really all about FREE WILL ie our freedom to choose what decisions and actions we undertake in our life. Our decisions and actions will reflect a blatant disrespect and disregard for the laws of justice which affect our society or they will reflect a regard and respect for them. The same applies wrt our decisions and actions regarding God. We will either choose to blatantly disrespect and disregard Him/His laws as they pertain to justice or we will regard and respect them. An observation/anecdote : I'm often told that God must be an awful and nasty entity if He rejects people and does not let them into Heaven.  It's the other way round : people reject God....they reject His very existence and relevance even. People CHOOSE to do the rejecting. Why? They have FREE WILL.

Exactly. Free will.
Choices = outcome = consequences … and if one has a conscience … then choices can emanate from that.
I think that some spiritually divine energy can work through people to help people.
Haven’t we often thought how much of an angel some people are… after a event which can test all sorts of strengths and weaknesses within.
Then of course there’s a lower vibration of energy that can take advantage of people with less conscience to do unimaginable things and hurt so many.
We often hear of the way ice/drugs or copious alcohol can affect the mind body and soul in varying degrees.

What prevents a normal clear minded individual from saying… to hell with it all… there is no higher power (or a collective consciousness) to answer to… and go on a crime spree…is it some innate fear of the law or if there is judgement after we exit our bodies (temple for the soul) and discover another journey we didn’t count on, or were unaware of ? Is just being a good law abiding person enough?
What was the purpose of our lives?

Then we come to the fear of the unknown. Fear of dying etc
Hence expressions like “God fearing” … but if God is so loving and forgiving, then what is there to fear?
Would Hitler have been forgiven if he had sought redemption?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 11:38am:

Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:52am: mothra wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:25am: Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. Questioning why God drowned everybody is "demanding God be like you" and demanding of approval? Frank, do you just like, get really upset before you type or something? Do you REALLY take every parable literally, like turdy? Do you really believe every religious creation STORY, every flood STORY? Just to confirm then: if a passage in the Bible talks about God doing something good, it's to be taken literally but if it's something bad it's just a "story" that never really happened? Yeah?   :-/

Of course not, Bbwianesque, dishonest and devious fool.

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 1:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 11:38am: Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:52am: mothra wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:25am: Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 7:22am: You are turdifying god in your own image, demanding that god be like you and deserve your approval Otherwise his an alleged far right MAGA Republican Trump loving redneck etc, etc. That's where you are going with this, that's where you are going with everything - Project Turdify. Questioning why God drowned everybody is "demanding God be like you" and demanding of approval? Frank, do you just like, get really upset before you type or something? Do you REALLY take every parable literally, like turdy? Do you really believe every religious creation STORY, every flood STORY? Just to confirm then: if a passage in the Bible talks about God doing something good, it's to be taken literally but if it's something bad it's just a "story" that never really happened? Yeah?   :-/ Of course not, Bbwianesque, dishonest and devious fool.

Well, please explain to us all how it works then.

What are the rules to cherry picking the Bible?

And, is this you?

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Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 9:22am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 8:07am: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2023 at 8:05am: Charity, humility and meekness, turning the other cheek, telling the truth certainly not followed by christians overmuch. They go to church as a tiresome duty. Once a week Christians that go to church on Sunday to clean the sheet so they can be tnucs for the following week. Could YOU (plural) stick to the topic? Please? Or is that too much to ask? 😐

The followers of God & the teachings of Jesus are Christians are they not?

Christianity is riddled with hypocrisy/hypocrites.

People who pay scant regard for the laws of God through the week, yet think that by appearing pious by attending church every Sunday & confessing makes it ok to  do it all again the following week.

God & Jesus aren't here to guide their flock.

A merciful God wouldn't allow babies, infants, toddlers(the innocent) to die of terrible disease before their life has begun.

So the pro-lifers are hypocrites.

for many years god was only pro life if you agreed to convert :D :D

I would prefer to think that God is pro life but the evidence does not seem to support that position.

How much of the evidence is reliable is very debatable but that is what happens when none of the information about an of it is reliable.