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Title: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Brian Ross on Jan 6th, 2023 at 2:48pm |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Belgarion on Jan 6th, 2023 at 3:48pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 2:48pm:
The article states that the man was not injured during the protest and died of natural causes - then says the the protest "likely" contributed to his condition. Which is it? The media seems to be twisting the MEs words here. Were this not Trump related would we be hearing about any such lawsuit? ::) |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by philperth2010 on Jan 6th, 2023 at 3:53pm
Donald Trump should just pay the $10 million and pledge his support for Law Enforcement, without accepting responsability of course....He could pay it from the millions of dollars his supporters have donated???
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Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6th, 2023 at 4:01pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 3:48pm:
"The violence that followed, and the injuries that violence caused, including the injuries sustained by Officer Sicknick and his eventual death, were reasonable and foreseeable consequences of Defendant Trump's words and conduct." |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Frank on Jan 6th, 2023 at 4:09pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 3:48pm:
Ambit gambit. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Boris on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:56am philperth2010 wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 3:53pm:
Boris wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:42am:
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Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Brian Ross on Jan 7th, 2023 at 12:00pm Yeah, yeah, whatever, Matty... Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:08pm
This is crazy, Brian. This family should be thanking Mr Trump for stopping the violence. Mr Trump was the only one to speak out and stop the riots.
"We have to have peace" he said. "So go home. We love you; you're very special." Remember, Mr Trump loved and understood the American people. "I know how you feel," he said, "but go home, and go home in peace." Jan 6 was a peaceful protest - people marched with candles, linked arms and sung hymns. Mr Trump planned to march with them to ensure a peaceful, non-violent protest, an act of civil courage. The strategy was modelled on the principles of Mahatma Gandhi, who Mr Trump studied and admired. No one would have been hurt if it wasn't for the Deep State plants who started the violence. These were some very sick people, Brian. It's why Mr Trump ordered the Secret Service to allow armed protesters in. The people needed to defend themselves - and Mr Trump - from the provocateurs. Can you imagine? People turning against their president? In America? America needs patriots like the Proud Boys to defend their president and their Constitution. Jan 6 was all about peace and the rule of law, as Mr Trump said. "We have to have law and order," Mr Trump said. "We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don't want anybody hurt." Do you see? Mr Trump wanted to protect the police. This family should be thanking Mr Trump, not suing him, it's despicable. DRAIN THE SWAMP! |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Belgarion on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 4:01pm:
That is what the lawyers are saying, not the medical examiner. But why let the truth get in the way of a good ambulance chase? |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:49pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:46pm:
How do you know what the truth is? |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:54pm
Seems like the Capitol Security (all fully armed) on the day have turned out like a bunch of soccer-diver panzies like Peccary because they got over-run by NERDS by shear numbers, than violence.
While American Citizens have shown to have more balls and tougher actions (than the Capitol Building Security) when they were BURNED, LOOTED, RIOTED, KILLED, BASHED, RAPED AND MORE BY THE 'BLACK' PEOPLE OVER SOME JUNKIE HAVING AN OVERDOSE - WHO HAPPENED TO BE BLACK AND BECAUSE THE COP WAS WHITE WHO HAD NEARLY LOST HIS LIFE BY VIOLENT JUNKIES PREVIOUSLY UPON TWO OCCASSIONS. Let's weigh up both these two situations and you all tell me, which one is the true Evil act of Terrorism? |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:59pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:46pm:
The medical examiner, Francisco Diaz ... told the newspaper that “all that transpired” on January 6 “played a role in his condition.” Ah. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Belgarion on Jan 7th, 2023 at 3:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:59pm:
So the medical examiner talks to a newspaper about his findings in a case that may be appearing in court? ::) |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 7th, 2023 at 3:54pm
Police officers tend to have shorter lives than those people employed in other occupations. But they are compensated for their dangerous work with good income. If you are not dying during or just after the course of your job, I do not see the relevance.
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Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 7th, 2023 at 3:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:59pm:
What would doctors know, Greggery? They weren't there. The leftards claim Jan 6 "played a role" in his condition. How would they know? Can you tell? Can anybody? I think not. Anything could have killed this man. For all we know, he died of shame. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 7th, 2023 at 3:59pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 3:49pm:
Belgarion's right, Greggery. That's subjudice. This "doctor" is guilty of contempt. That's a mistrial right there. Suck on that, leftards. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by AusGeoff on Jan 7th, 2023 at 4:11pm
As I see it...
Trump incited the violence that caused officer Sicknick to be present at the Capitol on the day of the potential insurrection. Ergo, Trump is responsible for the officer's death. End of story. Bear in mind that Trump had originally planned to march with his armed rabble of anarchists, but it was only at the last minute he decided against it—on the advice of his lieutenants. (Considering his bone spurs prevented him from completing his military service, I'd be surprised he could've walked that far.) |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 4:42pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 3:49pm:
Yes. So tell us again: how do you know what the truth is? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 7th, 2023 at 4:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 4:42pm:
That's hard, Greggery. What is the truth? Who can say? Can you? Can anybody? I think not. Belgarion is just raising the age-old questions of our time. What is truth? Is it legal, medical, or even spiritual? Is it perhaps something else? An indefinable conundrum known to all as complete krap? I'm sure you'll agree, Greggery: I guess we'll never know. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 7th, 2023 at 5:00pm AusGeoff wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 4:11pm:
He got over his bone spurs, Geoff, that was ages ago. Mr Trump's doctor said he has the fitness and stamina of a guy half his age, believe me. Here's Mr Trump today. Standing tall for America, playing football, making millions, defending the family farm. He's even been into outer space. I think he can link arms with his fellow patriots and walk half a mile down Pennsylvania Avenue, don't you? Mr Trump loves Pennsylvania Avenue. Jan 6 is a great day for a tour of the Capitol, no? ![]() |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Belgarion on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:58am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 4:42pm:
If you were really curious you would be questioning the lawyers version of events. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 8th, 2023 at 1:43pm
Poll Added:
Which was worse? A bunch of American Citizens (mostly Nerds dressed as Buffalo Shamans) who stormed a 'heavily armed' Government Building which was forewarned enough to be prepared, to which the American Citizens succeeded in accomplishing to 'mess up some paperwork' like an End of Year Muck-Up-Day. Also, some of them were shot dead by heavily armed Security. OR BLACK LIVES MATTER and any Black people who just wanted to join in - who systematically RIOTED in the name of a Junkie who had a drug induced cardiac arrest (healthy people don't die from such a restraining method) derived from 'guilty paranoia' although wasn't being arrested. Of which this Junkie died under the restraint of a Police Officer (who just happened to be White of course) who had previously nearly lost his life in the course of Duty on two occassions by 'Junkies'. With this - American Citizens across the whole country were subjected to BURNING, LOOTING, DESTRUCTION, BASHINGS, VIOLENCE, RAPE, KILLINGS and so on. Probably eventually pacified when White Women 'pussified' them via Peaceful-Protests of holding hands. So lets see the Moral Compass on this one. Massive violence against American citizens nationwide? or Democrats taking a soccer dive over a 'heavily armed' building being messed up just because Trump was associated? The Choice is yours. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:23pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Oh, so you're not listening to the medical examiner anymore? The medical examiner, Francisco Diaz ... told the newspaper that “all that transpired” on January 6 “played a role in his condition.” That was a quick back pedal. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Belgarion on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Only in your imagination Greggy, desperately searching for something, anything, to justify your strange obsession with the former president, even an obvious attention seeking stunt like this lawsuit. ::) |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:41pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:34pm:
The failed former president incited the violent Jan. 6 terrorist attack. Fact. The events at that terrorist attack led to the police officer's death. Fact. Thus, the failed ex-president should be held to account. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 8th, 2023 at 3:39pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:34pm:
He's a Swine Pig of a man. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 3:42pm The failed former president incited the violent Jan. 6 terrorist attack. Fact. The events at that terrorist attack led to the police officer's death. Fact. Thus, the failed ex-president - who is also an alleged child rapist - needs to be held accountable. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Dnarever on Jan 8th, 2023 at 3:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 3:42pm:
100% correct. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Dnarever on Jan 8th, 2023 at 4:02pm Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 1:43pm:
Your wording should be a little more honest and accurate. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 8th, 2023 at 5:36pm Quote:
Hace the fact checkers gone on strike since sleepy Joe became POTUS? |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:57pm
The complete frickin' insanity of Trump supporters does nothing to undo the reason why they rioted at the Capitol. How utterly oblivious to the narcissistic personality-disordered president can you be for 4 years? You do not need to be a body language expert to tell that Trump lost fairly and by quite a big margin to be ousted in 2020. I understand that it had to be Trump over Clinton in the 2016 election. But, I would rather see an aged Captain America take over the leadership for a few years rather than have to put up listening to 4 more years of Trump slur his way through appealing to a bunch of white supremacist hillbillies.
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Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:29pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 4:02pm:
You mean - I should follow the lead of the Democrats/Media with "Let's go Brandon!"? Let alone their total blatant ANTI-Trump campaign by a so-called 'unbiased' Media that blockaded anything from the Republicans/Trump? Desperate measures by a corrupt Democrat regime, trying to make Trump/Republicans out to be their old foes the Grey south Confederacy, because its more 'comfortable' for them to perceive such. The Blue North Gay Democrat Yankees will be held accountable for their International Crimes by way of Suicide. The Grey South Redneck Confederacy Rebels were held accountable for their Domestic Crime by way of War. Everything will eventually balance out. ;) |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 9th, 2023 at 1:09pm
Floyd was a junkie arsehole that would have made the world a better place if he died in his sleep that morning in bed. However, that does not mean that he would have died at that time, regardless of whether a police officer kneeled on Floyd's neck. Floyd was talking with people freely with officers and the public for a few minutes whilst he was (needlessly) held on the ground for a number of minutes. He was (eventually) compliant enough that the officers should have got him up and put into the police vehicle. Yet, you notice that Chauvin changed the positioning of his knee ever so slightly that when Floyd did pass out, Chauvin swiveled his knee to ensure that Floyd did lose the ability to breathe.
Reading the medical examiner's report, my untrained understanding of George Floyd's medical history only leads me to believe that Floyd was an unwell individual. He had an enlarged heart. He had heart disease. He had fentanyl in his system. He was a recent cannabis user. But, Floyd had also recovered from covid a month earlier. So, he obviously was not going to die so easily. If 4 guys laid upon you for 9 minutes, with one guy with his knee on your neck for much of that time, I could be sure that you would at least pass out and possibly die, depending on your recovery ability. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:25pm
BS Subby. He was at no moment 'compliant' and at every moment he argued and resisted the most basic requests with all hesitations and persuasions to do otherwise. All the signs of a 'guilty' and hostile consciousness looking for a way out and to take control of the situation over the officers.
Remember those two Australian Officers who allowed an offender some 'leeway' when under the same restraint, cried he couldn't breath. The officer removed his knee and straight away the offender turned on them - nearly gaining a gun and shooting them both, before the struggle eventually went back to the officer's advantage. I would like to see you take 'chances' with a Junkie who resists you or tries to take control of the situation over you. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:40pm Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:29pm:
Trump. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:45pm Jasin wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:25pm:
Incorrect. Hunter's Laptop |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:45pm:
So you say. But you're an idiot among other things 'Jungle' Peccary. I've had much experience with junkies, etc via a few demographics, many situations and more upon a Professional level. From Floyd's first 'twitch' he was non-compliant regardless if it was his choice or the drugs making the choice for him. His behaviour, body language and more would put me on my guard at the first moment. Do you argue with Police every time they ask you to do a breath test? |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2023 at 7:08pm Jasin wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:50pm:
Only if they hold their knee on my neck for 9 minutes. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:05pm
But Floyd's resistance, etc was 'BEFORE' the physical restraint by the Police for their own protection - you numpty.
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Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:30pm Jasin wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:25pm:
Floyd was argumentative and in denial about his guilt. He gave up his name and identity to the officers. When they put him in the police vehicle, Floyd reacted to being stabbed in the leg with a pen -- and that is implied in the medical examiner's report. The officer's used this as an excuse to take Floyd out of the vehicle and detain Floyd on the ground. The issue that people usually do not dispute is that Chauvin held his knee on Floyd's neck for about 3 minutes passed the time that Floyd had passed out. That is known as "murder". I have actually been attacked by a junkie. As long as you hold your ground, the junkie will eventually back down. People on "ice" will be tougher to control, though. You don't know what it is like to fight people high on drugs. Floyd was weak, despite his muscular strength. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:36pm Jasin wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:50pm:
People can argue that George Floyd was as noncompliant as he could be that day. George Floyd can rot in hell, for all I care. The very fact is that some micropenis police officers, who has had dealing with George Floyd in the past, decided that Floyd was a problem that needed eradicating from society. So says the verdict. Whatever incorrigible behaviour Floyd exhibited did not warrant his death at the hands of a police officer. George Floyd would have probably been dead within 2 years from his own poor choices of drug use. Not 9 minutes after an officer put his knee on Floyd's neck. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mortdooley on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:05am |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mortdooley on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:11am UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:36pm:
Actually Floyd died from the overdose of Fentanyl in his system but if the Police Officer hadn't been wrongfully charged and convicted Cities would have burned! The greater good was the excuse to send an honest man to prison! Thanks to this incident Police Officers all over the Country are afraid to do their jobs, many just quit and changed careers. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:52am Mortdooley wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:11am:
If all 4 police officers spontaneously combusted their heads, George Floyd would not have had a heart attack as a result of the shock. He was not a well man. But, he was not so bad that he could not handle the psychological stress of the situation. Maybe he would have died within the next 12 months, unless he had a complete change of personality and made life-altering choices to his health. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 10th, 2023 at 5:55pm Mortdooley wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:05am: Finally some sense, Mort. As soon as the FBI arrest Nancy for incitement to riot and conspiracy to insurrection, the better. The silly woman's trying to lie low in congress, eh? Typical. Those rioters who called for her head were clearly a false flag. I bet she was pissed when one of them took a dump in her office, eh? The Deep State should ask for their money back. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:01pm Mortdooley wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:11am:
Exactly. The coroner lied to keep the peace. They do it all the time. Ever watch Quincy? You can't trust public health officials, that's for sure. And don't get me started on Fauci. ![]() |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Xavier on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:04pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:52am:
Croc of shyte. Maybe you want to invent some pro-nouns for Junkies and support their rights to be considered 'normal' people too? ::) |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:12pm Mortdooley wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:11am:
Hmmm :-/ Who to believe - an internet troll who dropped out of high-school in year 9, or experts? Experts: George Floyd died from knee to neck, not drug overdose "The county medical examiner’s office ruled Floyd’s death a homicide due to “cardiopulmonary arrest,” not an overdose, even though he had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system. Medical experts at the murder trial for one of the former police officers involved also testified Floyd died of a lack of oxygen from being pinned to the pavement with a knee on his neck, not from drug use. A jury unanimously agreed, finding the former officer guilty of murder and manslaughter." |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:26pm Jasin wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:04pm:
Yeah. How does "it" and my knee on your neck sound, Junkies? Next, they'll be calling for human rights for the Leftards. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
Sorry, Greggery, is there a third option? Tucker Carlson? |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mortdooley on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:01pm Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Old Nan has a lot to deal with that makes her less than stable. Besides her rabid hatred of Americans and their believe in personal freedom she views anyone who thinks for themselves a threat. She grew up with a father who was owned by the Mafia, that can permanently warp someone's view of the World. There haven't been many opportunities to make millions on insider trading lately and her husband has been found cruising gay bars, having motor vehicle wrecks and hammer fights with his gay lovers! Who is Ray Epps? |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mortdooley on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
Thousands of people disappear in America every year, I'm sure the Coroner didn't want to be one of them! He was told what results to find for the greater good as well as his own. |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:53pm Mortdooley wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
Who's Ray Epps? That's a tough one, Mort. Quote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/-trump-protester-ray-epps-told-jan-6-committee-crazy-conspiracy-theori-rcna63615 But I see what you mean. Ray was really Nancy's hubby's Trump-supporting MAGA boyfriend. Just like America's mayor and Mr Trump's favourite lawyer. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843114/amp/Trump-s-groping-caught-camera-victim-Rudy-Giuliani-Bizarre-joke-video-shows-Donald-pretending-assault-ex-NY-Mayor-dressed-drag.html I'll have what she's having. Miam miam, no? ![]() |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 10th, 2023 at 11:00pm Mortdooley wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:04pm:
Exactlemente. Every year, thousands of coroners are told what results to find for the greater good as well as their own. As for directors of the Centre of Disease Control, forget about it. ![]() |
Title: Re: Family of US Capitol police officer file wrongful Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 13th, 2023 at 2:04am
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