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Message started by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:29am

Title: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:29am
Not even Bobby believes the things he posts:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:59am:

freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53am:
What do you think makes you look more gullible, believing the US government stat, or believing the 12 million number from the Nigerian scam dude?


I don't truly believe anything -
I report the news -
I don't make the news -
the readers decide.


But he sure has a lot of well rehearsed excuses for why he is not a liar:

It's not a lie if it was not deliberate:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:20am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:19am:
Bobby, what is the difference between posting lies and posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes?


I have not deliberately posted lies.


It's not a lie if it might be true:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:25am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:21am:
What is the difference between deliberately posting lies and deliberately posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes?

Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?



It could be true.


It's not a lie if it might be a lie, or an estimate:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:22pm:
So you didn't lie, you merely posted a lie?



It might have been a lie -
it is more likely to be an estimation


It's not a lie if you are quoting someone else you know to be a lying:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:08am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:06am:
I am not asking you what you know Bobby. I know it is is nothing. Are you having trouble understanding the question?

What should we do with liars Bobby?


Steve Kirsch?

Tell him off - send him an email.


It's not a lie if someone was asking you for the facts, but you didn't have any:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
Do you think Bobby was telling the truth when he said that 12 million people had died from covid vaccines, and also telling the truth when he said it was 16 thousand?



I was reporting vaccine death estimates from many different websites as requested by you.
I don't make the news - I report the news -
the readers decide.
Who knows what's true?
It's not like the Govts. are ever going to tell us.


It's not a lie if you found it on the internet:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:29pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:27pm:
I did not ask you to lie to me Bobby.



You asked for evidence -
I Googled up some evidence for you.
I also used the Yandex search engine.

Your quarrel should be with the authors of that evidence not me.
I'm only a humble messenger.


It's not a lie if you are reporting on what is on the internet:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:48pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:32pm:
Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true?


I report the news - I don't make the news:

I find some great links:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7

Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent


It's not a lie if you copied and pasted it:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:56pm:
That's a loaded question -
you know I don't trust any butchers.   :-[/quote]


Quote:
Would it be a lie Bobby?



FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link
plus some copied and pasted text to a website.
I am a messenger - you should direct any anger towards
the website - not me.


It's not a lie if you refuse to even think about whether it is true, then ask other people to do your thinking for you:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm:
[quote]FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link


You said that 12 million people died from covid vaccines. Was that a lie?


I did not say that -
it was copied and pasted from a link.
Examine the link thoroughly and get back to all of us with your verdict.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:32am
But wait, there's more...

It's not a lie if you are completely ignorant of the facts:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:22am:

freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:56am:

freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:35am:

Quote:
there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons


How many would that be Bobby?



I dunno - it's a lot -
many celebrities too -
they are dropping like flies.
I see the reports every day on CNN and the BBC.


So you do not know how many people are actually dying suddenly, or what would count as normal or too many, but you have somehow convinced yourself that it is too many?

How?

Did you previously think celebrities lived forever?



Of course they don't live forever.
Don't you think all these untimely deaths could have vaccines as a cause?
Is it remotely possible?


It's not a lie if you pretend everyone else is as ignorant as you:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:29am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:15am:
I am curious about your understanding of what a lie is.

Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies?

Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?



We'll never know what the truth is -
however - ask Steve Kirsch:


It's not a lie if you mention philosophy like you know something about it:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:40am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:32am:
Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us?

Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies?

Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?



We'll never know what the truth is - study philosophy -
however - ask Steve Kirsch what he thinks:


It's not a lie if you cannot be sure:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:05am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:58am:
I am not asking you what the truth is Bobby, or to prove anything. I am asking you to explain what you are thinking. Is it possible for you to do that?

Do you view it differently because you are posting it online and not saying it? Would you be lying if you told someone in person that 12 million people had died from the covid vaccine?



I've told you - I don't know for sure.

I do know that Steve Kirsch said  .........


All of this is from one single thread so far.

But the rules for what counts as a lie are completely different for everyone else but Bobby:


Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:10pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm:

Quote:
What if there is a possibility that it is true?


I don't know -
what is your point of contention?


If there is a possibility it is true, then it is not a lie, right?



No - a lie is a lie unless maybe it's portrayed as an educated guess
in which case it could be true or false -
a bit like Schrodinger's cat.


Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:48am
Bobby is just a bit more vulnerable because he tries to be honest within the discussion defending the indefensible.

Bobby would not make the top ten of deliverers of dishonest internet conspiracy stories.

If you don't believe me just ask Steve Kirsch.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:48am
Oh dear!

I guess Booby is lucky he isnt Pinocchio!

;D ;D

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:49am
He tries to pretend to be honest. I don't see any other kind of effort there.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:51am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:49am:
He tries to pretend to be honest. I don't see any other kind of effort there.


Yes he does try, we all do, I don't believe he pretends. He also managed a excellent world cup soccer score service.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:54am
Nail posts all that same insanity and he does 100% believe it as well.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:56am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:51am:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:49am:
He tries to pretend to be honest. I don't see any other kind of effort there.


Yes he does try, we all do, I don't believe he pretends. He also managed a excellent world cup soccer score service.


His basic argument is that he is not lying because he is not even trying to post the truth. It's right there in his own words.

Bobby does not believe what he posts. He does not think about what he posts. He does not defend what he posts. That is for everyone else to do.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:09am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:56am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:51am:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:49am:
He tries to pretend to be honest. I don't see any other kind of effort there.


Yes he does try, we all do, I don't believe he pretends. He also managed a excellent world cup soccer score service.


His basic argument is that he is not lying because he is not even trying to post the truth. It's right there in his own words.

Bobby does not believe what he posts. He does not think about what he posts. He does not defend what he posts. That is for everyone else to do.


Yes he says he is posting information off the internet but he does this leaving the impression that it is the truth when it is often dubious. His process is definitely not sound.

I have the woke thing I will try to defend anyone almost, I know I have woke as I checked my watch and it is telling me that I am averaging about 4.5 hours sleep a day.  Anyway Bobby is a good egg just misguided.

He solved yesterdays wordle in 2 lines you know.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Yadda on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:21am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:48pm:

I report the news - I don't make the news:

I find some great links:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7

Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent



.



freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:29am:

It's not a lie if you are reporting on what is on the internet:



It's not a lie if....     a Government employed 'Health Officer' >> ASSURES << us that the vaccines are safe and are effective, and will protect us [the GHO doesn't have to show us the data, to prove his assurances are true.]......

'So all line up, and roll up your sleeves.'



Yadda said....
IN AUSTRALIA....Staff needed… enquire within…
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671369754/5#5

Quote:

Why is there a worker shortage today, all over Australia ?

Well i don't know !!!!

Its 2022.

Q.
What has been happening all over Australia, in the last two years ?
        :-?



On the 'HIGHWIRE' a couple of days ago......

Edward Dowd - NEW EXCESS DEATH DATA FROM AUSTRALIA
32 min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3984LgKFdAli/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bAYgbW3s01Tv/



@16.55                        [Edward Dowd....] we just [looked at] the Australian data.






Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:22am

Quote:
His process is definitely not sound.


Not because of his process, but because he denies any responsibility for determining whether it is true before he posts it. Or even after he posts it. That is for other people to do.

Accusing someone of lying assumes they have a mind of their own. Bobby is saying he is not lying because he can not or will not think for himself. He is just a copy and paste robot. A mindless automaton. So how do you conclude that he is "trying" to tell the truth when he himself denies any effort or responsibility?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:39am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:22am:

Quote:
His process is definitely not sound.


Not because of his process, but because he denies any responsibility for determining whether it is true before he posts it. Or even after he posts it. That is for other people to do.

Accusing someone of lying assumes they have a mind of their own. Bobby is saying he is not lying because he can not or will not think for himself. He is just a copy and paste robot. A mindless automaton. So how do you conclude that he is "trying" to tell the truth when he himself denies any effort or responsibility?


Yes but it is the same or worse for a lot of the opinion of the right, there are topics everyday where the right have to ignore fact in order to post on topics.


Quote:
He is just a copy and paste robot. A mindless automaton.


It is the same story for every poster on 90% of the posting of conspiracy theories. You cannot do any research and post about election theft or defend the stolen documents etc. It isn't just Bobby it is all of them and we all post opinion. Many go worse than cut and paste conspiracy theories we have about 5 guys who consistently just make it up to be what they would theoretically prefer even when the facts say the exact opposite.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:43am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:22am:

Quote:
His process is definitely not sound.


Not because of his process, but because he denies any responsibility for determining whether it is true before he posts it. Or even after he posts it. That is for other people to do.

Accusing someone of lying assumes they have a mind of their own. Bobby is saying he is not lying because he can not or will not think for himself. He is just a copy and paste robot. A mindless automaton. So how do you conclude that he is "trying" to tell the truth when he himself denies any effort or responsibility?


I think Bobby gets to this point when he knows that he isn't going to win the argument. Its just a bit of a defence mechanism he uses when he realises that he is wrong. He starts trying to argue that it is correct.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:46am
Hi FD,
very funny -
I enjoyed that -
now - what do you want me to say?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:49am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:46am:
Hi FD,
very funny -
I enjoyed that -
now - what do you want me to say?


I think you should admit you are a lying diickhead!

>:(

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 9:21am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:46am:
Hi FD,
very funny -
I enjoyed that -
now - what do you want me to say?


Why are you a compulsive liar Bobby?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by aquascoot on Dec 19th, 2022 at 9:29am
Bobby is just shooting the breeze

It's just brainstorming it's not meant to be taken seriously


Big pharmaceutical companies
Now that's a totally different story
They should most definitely tell the truth 100% of the time

If they were honest and cared about our health
Then it would be an enormous cause for celebration for them
If nobody ever bought their drugs

Their level of lying is of grave importance

Bobby having a bit of fun is of 0 consequence
Go for it Bobby

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Sophia on Dec 19th, 2022 at 9:34am

Yadda wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:48pm:

I report the news - I don't make the news:

I find some great links:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7

Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent



.



freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:29am:

It's not a lie if you are reporting on what is on the internet:



It's not a lie if....     a Government employed 'Health Officer' >> ASSURES << us that the vaccines are safe and are effective, and will protect us [the GHO doesn't have to show us the data, to prove his assurances are true.]......

'So all line up, and roll up your sleeves.'



Yadda said....
IN AUSTRALIA....Staff needed… enquire within…
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671369754/5#5

Quote:

Why is there a worker shortage today, all over Australia ?

Well i don't know !!!!

Its 2022.

Q.
What has been happening all over Australia, in the last two years ?
        :-?



On the 'HIGHWIRE' a couple of days ago......

Edward Dowd - NEW EXCESS DEATH DATA FROM AUSTRALIA
32 min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3984LgKFdAli/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bAYgbW3s01Tv/



@16.55                        [Edward Dowd....] we just [looked at] the Australian data.


Yep the government and big pharma never lie to us! Ever!
We should just accept anything they say/write, like good sheeple, without any questions.
See…. It works both ways. People can also post stuff that may be correct or not.
Put it all out there so we can all sift through it all… then the truth stands out on it’s on, eventually.
Bobby is a concerned person and worries a lot. He’s been c-jabbed out of fear rather than sound reason, now he has doubts about it as he reads everything about it… even listing topics about it whether true or not… because he’s concerned… not malicious.
He just wants to share so we discuss.
After all…. This is a discussion forum. Not a court of law with a lot of leading questions asked to make one poster look like a liar?








Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 9:37am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 9:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:46am:
Hi FD,
very funny -
I enjoyed that -
now - what do you want me to say?


Why are you a compulsive liar Bobby?



I'm not a liar - I'm a messenger.

Are you saying that someone must 100% believe every website they quote?
Is it more useful to present what is being said on the internet and open it for discussion?




Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:08am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:43am:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:22am:

Quote:
His process is definitely not sound.


Not because of his process, but because he denies any responsibility for determining whether it is true before he posts it. Or even after he posts it. That is for other people to do.

Accusing someone of lying assumes they have a mind of their own. Bobby is saying he is not lying because he can not or will not think for himself. He is just a copy and paste robot. A mindless automaton. So how do you conclude that he is "trying" to tell the truth when he himself denies any effort or responsibility?


I think Bobby gets to this point when he knows that he isn't going to win the argument. Its just a bit of a defence mechanism he uses when he realises that he is wrong. He starts trying to argue that it is correct.


So you think Bobby is lying about being completely disinterested in whether he is telling the truth?


Quote:
Is it more useful to present what is being said on the internet and open it for discussion?


Bobby, if you do not believe what you post, if you do not defend what you post, if you take no responsibility for it, if you merely post it as homework so other people can figure out whether it is true while you google more lies to post, then you are a useless waste of your own time and everyone else's time. There is an entire internet full of lies and BS out there. It is on no way useful for you to try to copy and paste it all here.

You are a compulsive liar, with well rehearsed excuses for your lies.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:17am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:08am:
Bobby, if you do not believe what you post, if you do not defend what you post, if you take no responsibility for it, if you merely post it as homework so other people can figure out whether it is true while you google more lies to post, then you are a useless waste of your own time and everyone else's time.



What if I don't believe anything I see on the internet?
What if CNN tells lies?
What if the BBC tells lies?
What if Reuters tells lies?

Can I post a link to their stories too?
Every website on the internet has told a lie at some time or another.
You're trying to blame me for the lies that others tell.

To me it's more important to open up points for discussion
rather than be a prisoner of some esoteric principle
based on 100% belief of something that I have no control over.
Who cares if I believe 100% in something?
Is what I think that important?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:19am
I blame you for the lies that you tell Bobby. You are a compulsive liar, with well rehearsed excuses for your lies.

If you think the mainstream media is lying, prove it. That would actually be useful. Stop being a useless liar Bobby.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:25am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:19am:
I blame you for the lies that you tell Bobby. You are a compulsive liar, with well rehearsed excuses for your lies.

If you think the mainstream media is lying, prove it. That would actually be useful. Stop being a useless liar Bobby.



That's like saying that anyone who posts a link to a story is a liar.
I will remember that for future discussions and call others liars
using your principles stated here.
Bookmarked page.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by aquascoot on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:51am
Bobby's just having a bit of fun
Lighten up
Nobody likes a scold

Certain entities that lie to us
Such as the food and pharmaceutical industries

They are compulsive liars who's devastating effects are entrenched in our society
If you want a root out evil liars
Maybe concentrate on them

Leave the entertainers like Bobby and Donald Trump alone
They never hurt anybody

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:54am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:51am:
Bobby's just having a bit of fun
Lighten up
Nobody likes a scold

Certain entities that lie to us
Such as the food and pharmaceutical industries

They are compulsive liars who's devastating effects are entrenched in our society
If you want a root out evil liars
Maybe concentrate on them

Leave the entertainers like Bobby and Donald Trump alone
They never hurt anybody



Thanks Aqua.    :)

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 1:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:25am:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:19am:
I blame you for the lies that you tell Bobby. You are a compulsive liar, with well rehearsed excuses for your lies.

If you think the mainstream media is lying, prove it. That would actually be useful. Stop being a useless liar Bobby.



That's like saying that anyone who posts a link to a story is a liar.
I will remember that for future discussions and call others liars
using your principles stated here.
Bookmarked page.


No it isn't Bobby. I am saying that you are a compulsive liar. Stop lying.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:50pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Bobby!

:o



No it's not - it's merely the opinion of one poster.

My father had a great saying -

"you can't go through life expecting everyone to like you"


Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:07pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:43am:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:22am:

Quote:
His process is definitely not sound.


Not because of his process, but because he denies any responsibility for determining whether it is true before he posts it. Or even after he posts it. That is for other people to do.

Accusing someone of lying assumes they have a mind of their own. Bobby is saying he is not lying because he can not or will not think for himself. He is just a copy and paste robot. A mindless automaton. So how do you conclude that he is "trying" to tell the truth when he himself denies any effort or responsibility?


I think Bobby gets to this point when he knows that he isn't going to win the argument. Its just a bit of a defence mechanism he uses when he realises that he is wrong. He starts trying to argue that it is correct.


So you think Bobby is lying about being completely disinterested in whether he is telling the truth?

[quote]Is it more useful to present what is being said on the internet and open it for discussion?


Bobby, if you do not believe what you post, if you do not defend what you post, if you take no responsibility for it, if you merely post it as homework so other people can figure out whether it is true while you google more lies to post, then you are a useless waste of your own time and everyone else's time. There is an entire internet full of lies and BS out there. It is on no way useful for you to try to copy and paste it all here.

You are a compulsive liar, with well rehearsed excuses for your lies.[/quote]


Quote:
So you think Bobby is lying about being completely disinterested in whether he is telling the truth?


No I think there is a point where Bobby understands that he cannot defend the information on that site so disowns it.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


It doesn't "get to a point". He never makes any effort to defend what he posts. He just moves on to posting more lies. Compulsively.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:37pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


It doesn't "get to a point". He never makes any effort to defend what he posts. He just moves on to posting more lies. Compulsively.


And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same but with no concession and not only posting more lies but re posting the same lies after it is shown to be wrong. Nail also a terrific guy but badly hung up on the one topic and there are a few the same on the Transsexual topic. The site has always had this, some just don't rely on facts to form their opinions.

Then remember we have had the Trump cult, a whole sub species from a different reality where fact is a myth and truth is a lie.

When I say lies they are untrue but to Nail it isn't a lie - he believes it all.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:46pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


It doesn't "get to a point". He never makes any effort to defend what he posts. He just moves on to posting more lies. Compulsively.


It isn't compulsory to defend or have a point is it ?

I don't have Bobby in the top ten for this type of annoyance. We have a few that post a mountain of Gibberish more annoying but different, also good guys.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:19am:
I blame you for the lies that you tell Bobby. You are a compulsive liar, with well rehearsed excuses for your lies.

If you think the mainstream media is lying, prove it. That would actually be useful. Stop being a useless liar Bobby.


There's nothing to prove once you know how they operate. ;)



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Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:50pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


It doesn't "get to a point". He never makes any effort to defend what he posts. He just moves on to posting more lies. Compulsively.


It isn't compulsory to defend or have a point is it ?

I don't have Bobby in the top ten for this type of annoyance. We have a few that post a mountain of Gibberish more annoying but different, also good guys.


Are you defending Bobby on the basis that he has the right to post a mountain of meaningless gibberish?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:52pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


It doesn't "get to a point". He never makes any effort to defend what he posts. He just moves on to posting more lies. Compulsively.


It isn't compulsory to defend or have a point is it ?

I don't have Bobby in the top ten for this type of annoyance. We have a few that post a mountain of Gibberish more annoying but different, also good guys.


Are you defending Bobby on the basis that he has the right to post a mountain of meaningless gibberish?


Sorry that's your opinion backed up by nothing as usual ;)

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:54pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


It doesn't "get to a point". He never makes any effort to defend what he posts. He just moves on to posting more lies. Compulsively.


It isn't compulsory to defend or have a point is it ?

I don't have Bobby in the top ten for this type of annoyance. We have a few that post a mountain of Gibberish more annoying but different, also good guys.


Are you defending Bobby on the basis that he has the right to post a mountain of meaningless gibberish?


I don't think Bobby posts a lot of gibberish but on occasion we likely all do. We have a few specialists who do little else. There are 2 un named stand outs one who I haven't read a full post in years. Nice guy but very painful.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:56pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:54pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


It doesn't "get to a point". He never makes any effort to defend what he posts. He just moves on to posting more lies. Compulsively.


It isn't compulsory to defend or have a point is it ?

I don't have Bobby in the top ten for this type of annoyance. We have a few that post a mountain of Gibberish more annoying but different, also good guys.


Are you defending Bobby on the basis that he has the right to post a mountain of meaningless gibberish?


I don't think Bobby posts a lot of gibberish but on occasion we likely all do. We have a few specialists who do little else. There are 2 un named stand outs one who I haven't read a full post in years. Nice guy but very painful.


Like I said, this thread is not about Bobby's lies. It is about his peculiar excuses. I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make here.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:00pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


You only call them lies because you don't agree with them and not because they are incorrect or intentionally wrong.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Sophia on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:05pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.


I’ve come to a (my own) conclusion…. I never realised it before… except sometimes under duress do we see what some people are made of… but I think you are a lovely guy Mr. D
It’s been refreshing to see your points made.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by aquascoot on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:07pm
bobby

see how these posters are now stuck in YOUR frame

see how they are focusing on YOU.

see how you are the cuase and they are at the effect.

you are now gaining status.

when people react to you, when you trigger them, it says everything about them and nothing about you.

you are moving forward on the narrow road to success.

you should be proud.


Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
bobby

see how these posters are now stuck in YOUR frame

see how they are focusing on YOU.

see how you are the cuase and they are at the effect.

you are now gaining status.

when people react to you, when you trigger them, it says everything about them and nothing about you.

you are moving forward on the narrow road to success.

you should be proud.



Thanks Aqua,
It's about shooting the messenger -
I have become a martyr for a great cause -
posting information that is outside the main stream media.
Sure it could sometimes be wrong -
the claim about 20 million people dying from the vaccines has
supposedly been debunked here:
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/wild-estimate-of-vaccine-deaths-is-fatally-flawed/

Notice it took me to do the research to find that?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.


Bobby is. He said so. Either that, or he was posting something he did not believe when he said he did not believe it.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 19th, 2022 at 5:58pm
There you go FD. Proof that the junk you injected into yourself is exactly that - junk !!

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671422703

Tell me that this is not going to cause problems ???

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:07pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.


Bobby is. He said so. Either that, or he was posting something he did not believe when he said he did not believe it.


I think you will find that the comment was about saving face, it was said retrospectively at the point where he knew it was wrong and looking for an acceptable out.

I prefer this to some others who when they know they are wrong just go into repetitively spamming something stupid dozens of times till the fact they are wrong is covered up pages back in the topic.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:08pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
I think you will find that the comment was about saving face, it was said retrospectively at the point where he knew it was wrong and looking for an acceptable out.

I prefer this to some others who when they know they are wrong just go into repetitively spamming something stupid dozens of times till the fact they are wrong is covered up pages back in the topic.



I even made an apology:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1670628973/105#105

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Aussie on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:16pm
Of all the absolute garbage posted at this site, freediver zeros in on Bobby.  I reckon it true to say that whenever Bobby is attacked about what he posts, he is consistent in that he says he is merely the messenger. Problem is that the messages he chooses to repeat are usually crap....but ......gawd.....how much other crap is posted here and freediver says nothing, including about the far more significant racist schit which is defining this Forum, seemingly.

Wow!

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 20th, 2022 at 7:20am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.


Bobby is. He said so. Either that, or he was posting something he did not believe when he said he did not believe it.


I think you will find that the comment was about saving face, it was said retrospectively at the point where he knew it was wrong and looking for an acceptable out.

I prefer this to some others who when they know they are wrong just go into repetitively spamming something stupid dozens of times till the fact they are wrong is covered up pages back in the topic.


So you think Bobby was being genuine with his original lie and disingenuous with his excuses?

That's nice. You have a preferred way of being lied to.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by reggie1963 on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:48am

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.


Bobby is. He said so. Either that, or he was posting something he did not believe when he said he did not believe it.



A bit like "your old mate" Carl there Freediver. Posts a story where he says the GOVERNMENT has said that Convid is now no worse then the flu or common cold. Ask for a link, reference, video any proof at all that any politician anywhere said this and he doesn't have one because he LIED. HE'S A LIAR. THAT IS WHAT A LIE IS. A LIE FROM A LIAR.

Then he posts another LIE saying the GOVERNMENT has said the pandemic is over. Whre is the link KARL you lying sack of horse sh*t.

Habitual LIAR.

But in your case FD it's not a lie if choose to believe otherwise.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by reggie1963 on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:49am

freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 7:20am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.


Bobby is. He said so. Either that, or he was posting something he did not believe when he said he did not believe it.


I think you will find that the comment was about saving face, it was said retrospectively at the point where he knew it was wrong and looking for an acceptable out.

I prefer this to some others who when they know they are wrong just go into repetitively spamming something stupid dozens of times till the fact they are wrong is covered up pages back in the topic.


So you think Bobby was being genuine with his original lie and disingenuous with his excuses?

That's nice. You have a preferred way of being lied to.



You have a preferred way of listening to the truth.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:54am

freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 7:20am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.


Bobby is. He said so. Either that, or he was posting something he did not believe when he said he did not believe it.


I think you will find that the comment was about saving face, it was said retrospectively at the point where he knew it was wrong and looking for an acceptable out.

I prefer this to some others who when they know they are wrong just go into repetitively spamming something stupid dozens of times till the fact they are wrong is covered up pages back in the topic.


So you think Bobby was being genuine with his original lie and disingenuous with his excuses?

That's nice. You have a preferred way of being lied to.


No I read the situation interpret it correctly and accept it with understanding.

It isn't the little white ones that bother me the most. It is the others who double down on the lie especially when they know it is a lie.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:56am

Quote:
So you think Bobby was being genuine with his original lie and disingenuous with his excuses?


So you don't think this is what is happening?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by reggie1963 on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:17pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:54am:

freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 7:20am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Quote:
And compared to Nail ? I see a worse example of the same


That's setting the bar pretty low. But I have not seen Nail attempt to argue that it is not a lie because he read it on the internet.

Perhaps you did not notice, but this thread is not about lying, but about the peculiar explanations Bobby gives for why he is not a compulsive liar.


At that point Bobby is virtually signalling that he accepts that it is wrong - you won the point. You have the option to be graceful and politely move on. You don't get that with the others because they are never going to be wrong no matter how obvious it is and most of them will run away and then re post the same story 3 weeks later even though they should know they are still wrong.


He is signalling that he does not care and he is off to find ten more lies for others to disprove. You could win a million times, but Bobby would still find more lies to post.


Each day there are topics where people are arguing something that is wrong. They all find articles to support their incorrect position they are all posting lies but none of them are posting things that they do not believe. Maybe none of them is a bit generous maybe most of them.


Bobby is. He said so. Either that, or he was posting something he did not believe when he said he did not believe it.


I think you will find that the comment was about saving face, it was said retrospectively at the point where he knew it was wrong and looking for an acceptable out.

I prefer this to some others who when they know they are wrong just go into repetitively spamming something stupid dozens of times till the fact they are wrong is covered up pages back in the topic.


So you think Bobby was being genuine with his original lie and disingenuous with his excuses?

That's nice. You have a preferred way of being lied to.


No I read the situation interpret it correctly and accept it with understanding.

It isn't the little white ones that bother me the most. It is the others who double down on the lie especially when they know it is a lie.



Like Karl who said the GOVERNMENT said the Convid is now no worse than the flu or the common cold or the lie the Government has said the pandemic is over?

Little white LIES like those?

No links, no references just out right LIES from the biggest liar on the forum. Doesn't say much for the company you keep.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by buzzanddidj on Dec 24th, 2022 at 5:06pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:48am:
Oh dear!

I guess Booby is lucky he isnt Pinocchio!

;D ;D




Bobby's not a REAL liar
He's just a follower
He will repost ANYTHING that Sir Lost Nail claims

I'd be too f**king embarrassed to declare myself a disciple
of such a f**king dill





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Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by John Smith on Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:23pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


I don't see how,  his reputation remains the same as far as I'm concerned. I've always known he was a lying little closet monkey

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by John Smith on Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.



You're kidding right? The idiot is still claiming we're in an ice age  :D

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 24th, 2022 at 7:19pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.



You're kidding right? The idiot is still claiming we're in an ice age  :D


The warm ice age?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 26th, 2022 at 8:26am

Is this Booby lying again?


Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:33am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:32am:
Yes Nail and Bobby should be reported asap!



I took 3 doses of the AZ vax so I'm innocent. 


Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 26th, 2022 at 12:18pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.



You're kidding right? The idiot is still claiming we're in an ice age  :D


The difference between being wrong and a lie ?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by buzzanddidj on Dec 26th, 2022 at 4:17pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.



You're kidding right? The idiot is still claiming we're in an ice age  :D



I spent Christmas with my family yesterday, my eldest brother included.
He must be the LAST person on Earth that still denies the existence of climate change
He doesn't seem to realise that average global temperatures are collected from data from all over the globe and not entirely from his apartment balcony in Sydney.
Unprecedented bushfires all across Europe and Canada are 'fake news"
I think his mentor is Andrew Bolt, on everything from indigenous Australian issues to global warming


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Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by John Smith on Dec 26th, 2022 at 5:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.



You're kidding right? The idiot is still claiming we're in an ice age  :D


The difference between being wrong and a lie ?


Intent

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by John Smith on Dec 26th, 2022 at 5:38pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 4:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Well thats left your reputation in tatters Blooby!

:o


All the others fight to the death on the topic no matter how stupid it makes them look. With Bobby he does consider the points and does get to the point of understanding that the argument he posted is not defendable when it is explained to him. I consider this more a strength. Not many of us find it easy to be wrong, I know it almost happened to me once. (joke) It never really almost happened to me. (joke 2). Some run away? Some change what they said to something else, some wait for 2 weeks to post the same story again even though they know it is wrong.



You're kidding right? The idiot is still claiming we're in an ice age  :D



I spent Christmas with my family yesterday, my eldest brother included.
He must be the LAST person on Earth that still denies the existence of climate change
He doesn't seem to realise that average global temperatures are collected from data from all over the globe and not entirely from his apartment balcony in Sydney.
Unprecedented bushfires all across Europe and Canada are 'fake news"
I think his mentor is Andrew Bolt, on everything from indigenous Australian issues to global warming


.


Sadly, he's not the last.  There are many others still out there crying it's all fake. Just look at Lee for one

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:02pm



Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:07pm
A compulsive liar with a Messiah complex.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by John Smith on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:02pm:


Did he lie to Goober?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:17pm

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
A compulsive liar with a Messiah complex.



Was Jesus crucified for his words?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:17pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
A compulsive liar with a Messiah complex.



Was Jesus crucified for his words?


Do you see yourself as more like God, or Jesus?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:28pm

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:17pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
A compulsive liar with a Messiah complex.



Was Jesus crucified for his words?


Do you see yourself as more like God, or Jesus?




Like Jesus - persecuted for my words of truth.

Now - answer my question?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:17pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
A compulsive liar with a Messiah complex.



Was Jesus crucified for his words?


Do you see yourself as more like God, or Jesus?




Like Jesus - persecuted for my words of truth.

Now - answer my question?


Ah, so now you speak the truth? I thought you were just copying and pasting lies you found on the internet that you bear no responsibility for?

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:33pm

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:17pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
A compulsive liar with a Messiah complex.



Was Jesus crucified for his words?


Do you see yourself as more like God, or Jesus?




Like Jesus - persecuted for my words of truth.

Now - answer my question?


Ah, so now you speak the truth? I thought you were just copying and pasting lies you found on the internet that you bear no responsibility for?



The truth is that I copy and paste pages on the internet
which are usually correct - and I am then shot as a messenger of unwanted truth.

Don't shoot the messenger -
investigate the source of the information if you're interested.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by freediver on Dec 27th, 2022 at 8:17am

Quote:
which are usually correct - and I am then shot as a messenger of unwanted truth


;D

And to think others were attempting to defend you as being merely gullible but honest.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 1:57pm
This is a website known for it's quackery but what if some of the stories are true?


https://thehighwire.com/editorial/japanese-scientists-find-indisputable-evidence-that-all-covid-variants-are-man-made/

Japanese Scientists Find Indisputable Evidence That ALL COVID Variants Are Man-Made.

A stunning Japanese study that has evolved from preprint to peer-reviewed publication suggests that all COVID-19 variants were engineered in biolabs and intentionally released upon humanity. First released in August 2023, the study, conducted by renowned Japanese virologists Professors Atsushi Tanaka and Takayuki Miyazawa of Osaka Medical University and Kyoto University, affirms that the push to keep COVID around is part of a nefarious deep state scheme to remove our individual freedoms and control us.




This media bias site says it's quackery:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-highwire/


Overall, we rate The Highwire a Strong Conspiracy and a Quackery level Pseudoscience site based on the routine promotion of unproven claims. We also rate them Low for factual reporting due to promoting propaganda not aligned with the consensus of science and several failed fact checks.








Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by A.I. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 1:59pm
Military dominates world by threat of Nukes.
Medical dominates world by threat of Pandemics.

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 18th, 2023 at 10:54pm

Excess deaths are way up.

Hard to know what the truth is?
The excess deaths could have been caused by billions of people
getting Covid and not dying straight away but months later
from heart damage etc.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/SnMiSxgnNQ7s/

Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2023 at 9:34am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 1:57pm:
This is a website known for it's quackery but what if some of the stories are true?


https://thehighwire.com/editorial/japanese-scientists-find-indisputable-evidence-that-all-covid-variants-are-man-made/

Japanese Scientists Find Indisputable Evidence That ALL COVID Variants Are Man-Made.

A stunning Japanese study that has evolved from preprint to peer-reviewed publication suggests that all COVID-19 variants were engineered in biolabs and intentionally released upon humanity. First released in August 2023, the study, conducted by renowned Japanese virologists Professors Atsushi Tanaka and Takayuki Miyazawa of Osaka Medical University and Kyoto University, affirms that the push to keep COVID around is part of a nefarious deep state scheme to remove our individual freedoms and control us.




This media bias site says it's quackery:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-highwire/


Overall, we rate The Highwire a Strong Conspiracy and a Quackery level Pseudoscience site based on the routine promotion of unproven claims. We also rate them Low for factual reporting due to promoting propaganda not aligned with the consensus of science and several failed fact checks.


If a story is so obviously ridiculous it is a fair bet to be be false.

Viruses propagation by natural variants is the typical and expected behaviour. Those variants coming in generally weakening strength overall with the occasional more dangerous variant emerging is also typical.

So what we have seen is exactly what would be expected. If these were being manufactured you would expect them to be maximised / enhanced and the targeting improved (not minimised).

This means that what we seen looks like natural behaviour and not lab product.



Title: Re: It's not a lie if....
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:20am


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