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Message started by Frank on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:02pm

Title: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:02pm
At least two police feared dead in execution-style shooting in Wieambilla, Queensland

At least two police officers are feared dead after an execution-style shooting in Queensland that wounded another officer and left a fourth missing.

Sources told The Australian the officers had gone to a property in Wieambilla, 300km northwest of Brisbane, about 4.40pm to make inquiries about a missing person.

The police were walking up the driveway of the property when they were “ambushed” with gun fire by two men in the house, sources said.

Two officers fell to the ground while a third escaped with a leg injury. A fourth officer is missing, sources said.

At least one of the gunmen came out of the house wearing camouflage clothing before executing the two officers on the ground, the sources said.

The gunmen then lit a fire to smoke out the missing officer, a source said.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:20pm


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/12/fears-for-police-officers-involved-in-shooting-incident-in-regional-queensland


Fears for police officers involved in shooting incident in regional Queensland

An emergency declaration was issued on Monday evening for the Wieambilla area

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by issuevoter on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:43pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-12/qld-police-emergency-declaration-wieambilla-unfolding-incident/101763662

Queensland police issue emergency declaration over 'ongoing incident' at Wieambilla in Western Downs


By Rory Callinan, David Chen and staff
Posted 2h ago
2 hours ago
, updated 8m ago


A member of the public has been shot and police have come under fire at a rural property west of Brisbane. 
Key points:

    Multiple ambulances were called to the Wains Road property near Tara
    A local resident is believed to have been shot
    Neighbours described hearing what they believed to be a semi-automatic weapon

Earlier today multiple ambulances were called to the scene at Wains Road, Wieambilla, where neighbours reported hearing dozens of gun shots and witnessing cars on fire.

A local resident is believed to have been shot after going to investigate what appeared to be a car fire at a neighbouring property.  

The man was shot as he walked up to the gate.

Another man who was with him was reported to have run to safety.

Residents described hearing what they believed to be a semi-automatic weapon being fired on the property, which had been unoccupied until the past week. 

The property where the shooting took place is set among small acreage blocks and has a small wooden house.

Police said several crews were at the property.


A declaration zone has been issued for the area between Chinchilla Tara Road, Wieambilla Road, Bennetts School Road and Mary Street. Wains Road has been closed. 
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Residents have been told to stay indoors until further notice.

Western Downs Mayor Paul McVeigh said multiple emergency crews in Dalby have been called to help.

"There's been constant sirens out here, and it sounds like an absolute tragedy," he said.

He said it was a major concern for the Western Downs community.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 9:39pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2gTKaZ5yf0

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 9:42pm
https://7news.com.au/news/qld/several-queensland-police-officers-shot-in-unfolding-emergency-at-wieambilla--c-9138530

Two police officers killed in Queensland ambush,

two more injured as manhunt launched for shooters
At least two gunmen opened fire when four officers arrived
at the rural property east of Brisbane.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 9:50pm
https://www.riverineherald.com.au/national/two-police-shot-dead-in-rural-queensland/

Two police shot dead in rural Queensland
By AAP Newswire
Dec 12, 2022


The gunmen remain on the run and are understood to have taken police communication equipment,
allowing them to track police movements as the manhunt continues.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:02pm
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2022/12/emergency-zone-declared-after-multiple-police-officers-reportedly-shot-in-queensland.html

A manhunt is underway for the alleged offenders,
who are believed to be heavily armed and to have taken police Glocks.

AAP reports they are also understood to have taken communication equipment
which allows them to track police locations during the search for them.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Xavier on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:06pm
I bet the place would be crawling with Cops looking for revenge.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:07pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:06pm:
I bet the place would be crawling with Cops looking for revenge.



It sounds like a war -
something that would happen in Ukraine.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Xavier on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:20pm
Betta nuke em,
just to be sure ;)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:35pm
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2022/12/emergency-zone-declared-after-multiple-police-officers-reportedly-shot-in-queensland.html



Police officers shot dead confirmed as male and female.

More on the shooting near Tara: https://bit.ly/3UJe7ZW


Two police officers are reportedly dead after they were gunned down in an ambush in Queensland on Monday afternoon.

Local media say four officers were attending a property in Wieambilla, in the Western Downs region west of Brisbane, to make enquiries regarding a missing person. But as they were walking up the driveway, they were reportedly ambushed by two men inside the house.

Sources told The Australian two officers fell to the ground before a gunman in camouflage clothing came out and carried out an "execution-style" shooting on the victims.

According to mygc.com.au, the third officer managed to withdraw and raise the alarm despite being shot in the leg.

"Despite sustaining serious injuries, he has escaped in one of the patrol cars," a police source told AAP.

The fourth officer fled into nearby bush - however the gunmen lit a fire to smoke her out, The Australian reported. She was believed to be unaccounted for before updates stated she had been saved by a police extraction team.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:36pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:06pm:
I bet the place would be crawling with Cops looking for revenge.


If I was a cop, I would be.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:37pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:36pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:06pm:
I bet the place would be crawling with Cops looking for revenge.


If I was a cop, I would be.



The Judge at Fort Grant wants them captured alive -
so he can hang em.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:53am
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/multiple-police-officers-allegedly-shot-at-queensland-property/GKX3HHP2RNFONCP5C6ZZUBN5AA/




Queensland, Australia police shooting:
Cop killers taken out - three shot dead after two police officers,
civilian brutally executed


news.com.au
13 Dec, 2022 03:59 AM
5 mins to read


Three people have been shot dead in a gunfight by special operations police following a manhunt for suspects in the execution-style murders of two police officers and a neighbour in Queensland.

The horrifying siege has left a total of six people dead, as Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese spoke of “terrible scenes” and a “heartbreaking day”.

The dramatic shoot-out started after three people - including the two police officers in their 20s - were killed in a cold-blooded ambush at a man’s property in the western town of Darling Downs, about three hours west of Brisbane.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:53am:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/multiple-police-officers-allegedly-shot-at-queensland-property/GKX3HHP2RNFONCP5C6ZZUBN5AA/




Queensland, Australia police shooting:
Cop killers taken out - three shot dead after two police officers,
civilian brutally executed


news.com.au
13 Dec, 2022 03:59 AM
5 mins to read


Three people have been shot dead in a gunfight by special operations police following a manhunt for suspects in the execution-style murders of two police officers and a neighbour in Queensland.

The horrifying siege has left a total of six people dead, as Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese spoke of “terrible scenes” and a “heartbreaking day”.

The dramatic shoot-out started after three people - including the two police officers in their 20s - were killed in a cold-blooded ambush at a man’s property in the western town of Darling Downs, about three hours west of Brisbane.



So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by John Smith on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:45am
How tragic. 


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:03am

John Smith wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:45am:
How tragic. 


Yep!!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:42am


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Xavier on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:10am

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????



The suspects are all dead -
how will we know what has happened?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:21am
What happened to gun control? ... everyone involved in this had a gun, except the now deceased neighbor

Guns everywhere, and people getting mowed down


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:24am
They might have been rightwing terrorist muslims


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:38am

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:24am:
They might have been rightwing terrorist muslims



Hopefully we'll find out very soon.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by freediver on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:40am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


You don't think we should find out why these things happen? We should just pass it off as some unfathomable mystery?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:42am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


I think he was just speaking tongue in cheek.

not to be taken seriously!

;)

Rather poor taste though trying to make jokes in this topic!



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:52am

freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:40am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


You don't think we should find out why these things happen? We should just pass it off as some unfathomable mystery?


Oh this will be good.

Tell me Fleadriver, how does one's demographic provide us with their intent?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:52am

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:42am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


I think he was just speaking tongue in cheek.

not to be taken seriously!

;)

Rather poor taste though trying to make jokes in this topic!


God knows what he's speaking. Like, any of the time.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:58am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:52am:

freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:40am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


You don't think we should find out why these things happen? We should just pass it off as some unfathomable mystery?


Oh this will be good.

Tell me Fleadriver, how does one's demographic provide us with their intent?


Whoever they were, they had a death wish



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:04am

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:58am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:52am:

freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:40am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


You don't think we should find out why these things happen? We should just pass it off as some unfathomable mystery?


Oh this will be good.

Tell me Fleadriver, how does one's demographic provide us with their intent?


Whoever they were, they had a death wish


Or even more frightening, they had reason to feel confident.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:14am

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:58am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:52am:

freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:40am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


You don't think we should find out why these things happen? We should just pass it off as some unfathomable mystery?


Oh this will be good.

Tell me Fleadriver, how does one's demographic provide us with their intent?


Whoever they were, they had a death wish



Like Muslims?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:44am
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:50am

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:44am:
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance



And we're awayyyyyyyyy.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:03am

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:44am:
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance


Link please???

Meantime .....

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/two-police-one-other-man-dead-after-being-ambushed-with-bullets-by-trio/news-story/5316361f7d4f9ec82ec470b0dceeaa93?amp&nk=ff00fa487228b86d9ad114569626c202-1670886008

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:04am
More here:

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/reason-police-were-at-wieambilla-property-before-bloody-ambush-revealed/news-story/b3325dad5b7013e680a665e212afe46f?amp

Reason police were at Wieambilla property before bloody ambush revealed

A missing, “mild-mannered” former school principal was one of three suspects killed in a gunfight after two officers were executed at a Queensland property.

Queensland Police officers were responding to an urgent SOS from their NSW counterparts when they were ambushed and executed in cold blood at a remote property yesterday.

On Monday afternoon, two young police officers were gunned down at a remote property in Wieambilla in Queensland’s western Darling Downs region, with a further two officers narrowly escaping with their lives.

A neighbour - since identified as Alan Dare - was also killed in the attack, while Special Operations police later shot dead three more people in a gunfight following a manhunt for multiple suspects.

It has since emerged that the officers were responding to a special request from NSW Police regarding a missing Dubbo man, TheDaily Telegraph reports.

According to the publication, Queensland Police had been asked to help in the search for Nathaniel Train, whose brother was believed to live at the Wains Rd property.

It has since been revealed that Nathaniel and his brother Gareth Train were both killed in the ensuing gunfight.

Nathaniel Train was a former school principal at Yorkeys Knob State School, with a 2017 Cairns Post article about a school fundraiser describing him as a “mild-mannered school leader”.



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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:08am
They will not have a Voice to Parliament

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:12am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????

What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?



That is sooo idiotic, you HAD to utter it.




"75% of victims of domestic violence reported the perpetrator as male."

Mothra's response:

"What does it matter? What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics? People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention."

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out, Mothra? A kind of tugging feeling?





Gawd, you are a flamin' ijit. Comically woke and moronic.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:14am
Continued from my previous post:

Last week, NSW Police issued an appeal for public assistance to locate Nathaniel Train, 46, who was last seen in Dubbo on 16 December, 2021, however, he remained in contact with his family until Sunday October 9, 2022.

He was reported missing to officers from Central North Police District on Sunday, December 4 when he could not be contacted by family or friends, with police and relatives holding “serious concerns for Nathaniel’s welfare”.

Meanwhile, the young police officers executed in the ambush have been identified as Constable Rachel McCrow, 26, and Constable Matthew Arnold, 29.

RIP to 2 people in their 20's who went to work and didn't come home : Rachel and Matthew 🌹🌹

Note : Rachel had only just joined the police force. My thoughts and prayers are for the families of the police officers involved. It's going to be a very challenging and difficult Christmas for them.

As for the others who lost their lives .... I really don't know what to think or say. 🥺




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:16am

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:12am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????

What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?



That is sooo idiotic, you HAD to utter it.




"75% of victims of domestic violence reported the perpetrator as male."

Mothra's response:

"What does it matter? What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics? People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention."

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out, Mothra? A kind of tugging feeling?





Gawd, you are a flamin' ijit. Comically woke and moronic.


Seriously. What is it that is actually wrong with you?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:18am


Latest news report...

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/reason-police-were-at-wieambilla-property-before-bloody-ambush-revealed/news-story/b3325dad5b7013e680a665e212afe46f


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:18am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:14am:
Continued from my previous post:

Last week, NSW Police issued an appeal for public assistance to locate Nathaniel Train, 46, who was last seen in Dubbo on 16 December, 2021, however, he remained in contact with his family until Sunday October 9, 2022.

He was reported missing to officers from Central North Police District on Sunday, December 4 when he could not be contacted by family or friends, with police and relatives holding “serious concerns for Nathaniel’s welfare”.

Meanwhile, the young police officers executed in the ambush have been identified as Constable Rachel McCrow, 26, and Constable Matthew Arnold, 29.

RIP to 2 people in their 20's who went to work and didn't come home : Rachel and Matthew 🌹🌹

Note : Rachel had only just joined the police force. My thoughts and prayers are for the families of the police officers involved. It's going to be a very challenging and difficult Christmas for them.

As for the others who lost their lives .... I really don't know what to think or say. 🥺


Just a heads up everyone : I've not found anything regarding the suspects in terms of their ethnicity or religion.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:20am
It is believed at least two shooters opened fire on the unsuspecting police as they walked up the driveway of the property about 4pm as part of a missing-person ­inquiry instigated by NSW police.

Horrifyingly, as they lay wounded, Constables Arnold and McCrow were seen to be ­approached by the gunmen clad in military-style camouflage ­fatigues, and shot ­execution-style where they lay.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:20am

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:44am:
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance


Link please.




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:21am
https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/heartbreaking-memo-after-two-cops-killed-in-ruthless-calculated-and-targeted-execution/news-story/477167dc513c4b6c63355a33fe531778

OMG!!!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:23am

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:20am:

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:44am:
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance


Link please.


Ummm could you stop copying my posts please???? You've done this TWICE in THIS topic!!!

Why? Very soon we will both be falsely accused of being each other 😐

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:23am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:21am:
https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/heartbreaking-memo-after-two-cops-killed-in-ruthless-calculated-and-targeted-execution/news-story/477167dc513c4b6c63355a33fe531778

OMG!!!


Queensland Police are reeling this morning after two of their own were shot dead in a “targeted execution”, with a heartbreaking internal memo revealing the extent of the shock felt by officers.
On Monday afternoon, two young police officers were killed in an ambush at a remote property in Wieambilla in Queensland’s western Darling Downs region.

A neighbour was also killed in the attack, while Special Operations police later shot dead three more people in a gunfight following a manhunt for multiple suspects.

is understood a 29-year-old male and 26-year-old female officer were killed when four cops attended the isolated property on Wains Rd, south of Chinchilla, at around 4.40pm yesterday.

After the manhunt concluded, Queensland Police Union President Ian Leavers shared an emotional internal memo with union members describing the force’s “great sadness” over the “senseless murders” that have rocked the nation.

He confirmed the constables, both from the small town of Tara, had been fired upon during “routine missing person inquiries” at the property, and received the “full force of the blasts”, while their two colleagues were “lucky to have escaped with their lives”.

“These officers’ tragic, needless and senseless murders have already been felt deeply across Queensland and all over Australia,” the memo reads, according to the Courier Mail.

“Our thoughts are also with police who bravely contained and managed the subsequent operation that has now resulted in the deaths of all the offenders.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:27am

Jasin wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:06pm:
I bet the place would be crawling with Cops looking for revenge.


That's a stupid statement.

The gunmen are dead & good riddance to bad rubbish.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:28am
Continued : This bit seriously upset me 🥺


All police officers put their lives on the line every time they commence their shift.

“The senseless murder of colleagues is a very emotional and challenging time for the entire police community.

“The events of today remind us that our job as police is always dangerous. It never stops, and it comes at a heavy cost to us all.”

It is understood the four officers who attended the property were shot at from inside a house as they walked up a driveway yesterday afternoon.

Two of the wounded officers were seen to be ­approached by at least two shooters clad in military-style camouflage ­fatigues, and shot ­execution-style at close range where they lay, according to The Australian.

A witness reported seeing the suspects then take the slain police officers’ pistols, the newspaper reports.

A third officer received a bullet graze during the incident, while the fourth reportedly fled into surrounding bushland.

The gunmen allegedly then started a bushfire in a bid to find the female officer, but she was rescued by a 16-strong extraction team of police who also ­recovered the bodies of the two murdered officers, according to a police source.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:31am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:53am:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/multiple-police-officers-allegedly-shot-at-queensland-property/GKX3HHP2RNFONCP5C6ZZUBN5AA/




Queensland, Australia police shooting:
Cop killers taken out - three shot dead after two police officers,
civilian brutally executed


news.com.au
13 Dec, 2022 03:59 AM
5 mins to read


Three people have been shot dead in a gunfight by special operations police following a manhunt for suspects in the execution-style murders of two police officers and a neighbour in Queensland.

The horrifying siege has left a total of six people dead, as Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese spoke of “terrible scenes” and a “heartbreaking day”.

The dramatic shoot-out started after three people - including the two police officers in their 20s - were killed in a cold-blooded ambush at a man’s property in the western town of Darling Downs, about three hours west of Brisbane.


No such town. It's the locale of Wieambilla south of Chinchilla & in the middle of huge gas fields... probably closer to Condamine.

Bet it's drug related.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:33am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:10am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????



The suspects are all dead -
how will we know what has happened?


The evidence will be on the property ... bet ya.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:34am
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:40am

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:34am:
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance

I don't think so.

Described by you and who else?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:44am

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:34am:
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance



Doesn't look Aboriginal to me. But that means nothing.

Nathaniel Train - former Principle at Yorkeys Knob State School & more recently of Dubbo.
Nathaniel_Train.jpg (53 KB | 9 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:46am
Boris ... lied?

Colour me shocked.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:54am

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:40am:

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:34am:
The killers who murdered police in cold blood


Gareth and Nathaniel Train are described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance

I don't think so.

Described by you and who else?



https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5881435085210459&id=147117875308904&m_entstream_source=permalink


Have you seen Nathaniel Train?
He was last seen in Dubbo in December last year but remained in contact with his family until early October.
After friends and family could not reach him, he was reported missing on Sunday.
Police and family hold serious concerns for Nathaniel’s welfare.
Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard.
Anyone with information into Nathaniel’s whereabouts is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:56am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:46am:
Boris ... lied?

Colour me shocked.


I quoted the ABC - so if it's not true blame them not me



ABC Western Plains

Have you seen Nathaniel Train?
He was last seen in Dubbo in December last year but remained in contact with his family until early October.
After friends and family could not reach him, he was reported missing on Sunday.
Police and family hold serious concerns for Nathaniel’s welfare.
Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard.
Anyone with information into Nathaniel’s whereabouts is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5881435085210459&id=147117875308904&m_entstream_source=permalink

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:57am

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:10am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????



The suspects are all dead -
how will we know what has happened?


The evidence will be on the property ... bet ya.


Yep.

Meanwhile.....look at these 2 beautiful Australians in their 20's who died alone and in shock. For nothing more than checking up on someone who had been reported missing

They fell wounded and once on the ground ...the arseholes walked up to them (as they lay) to shoot them repeatedly at close range.

Matthew joined the force in mid 2020 and Rachel in mid 2021.

May God rest their souls. What a terrible terrible tragedy 🥺



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:58am
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Nathaniel+Train%22+%22described+as+being+of+Aboriginal%2FTorres+Strait+Islander+appearance%22&rlz=1C1JZAP_enAU845AU845&sxsrf=ALiCzsaUjUXeuz21GJIjFTI3RSHXJhe7ww%3A1670889439798&ei=37-XY_mnMMrg4-EPp6S26AE&ved=0ahUKEwi5k5KcpPX7AhVK8DgGHSeSDR0Q4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=%22Nathaniel+Train%22+%22described+as+being+of+Aboriginal%2FTorres+Strait+Islander+appearance%22&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQA0oECEEYAUoECEYYAFCeFFjFM2CKOGgBcAB4AIABpQGIAdEDkgEDMC4zmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:59am

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:56am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:46am:
Boris ... lied?

Colour me shocked.


I quoted the ABC - so if it's not true blame them not me



ABC Western Plains

Have you seen Nathaniel Train?
He was last seen in Dubbo in December last year but remained in contact with his family until early October.
After friends and family could not reach him, he was reported missing on Sunday.
Police and family hold serious concerns for Nathaniel’s welfare.
Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard.
Anyone with information into Nathaniel’s whereabouts is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5881435085210459&id=147117875308904&m_entstream_source=permalink


Yeah well the ABC must be wrong - he certainly isn't of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander appearance.

(edit - not saying he isn't ATSI.)

Are you or the ABC being biased because he was from Dubbo? ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:00am
Pity they weren't taken alive............................

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:03am

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:58am:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Nathaniel+Train%22+%22described+as+being+of+Aboriginal%2FTorres+Strait+Islander+appearance%22&rlz=1C1JZAP_enAU845AU845&sxsrf=ALiCzsaUjUXeuz21GJIjFTI3RSHXJhe7ww%3A1670889439798&ei=37-XY_mnMMrg4-EPp6S26AE&ved=0ahUKEwi5k5KcpPX7AhVK8DgGHSeSDR0Q4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=%22Nathaniel+Train%22+%22described+as+being+of+Aboriginal%2FTorres+Strait+Islander+appearance%22&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQA0oECEEYAUoECEYYAFCeFFjFM2CKOGgBcAB4AIABpQGIAdEDkgEDMC4zmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Ok, fair enough, nobody can argue with the ABC.

More of a Pascoe-type Aboriginal.


Imagine, though, a primary school principal with such hatred for the police, for anyone, as to execute them while they are in the ground wounded.
Shoi6t at them to start with as they are walking up the drive. WFT?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:04am
Oh, well - I guess this settles the specious arguments then!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/526931216145969

"Have you seen Nathaniel?

Nathaniel Train, aged 46, was last seen in Dubbo on Thursday 16 December 2021; however, he remained in contact with his family until Sunday 9 October 2022.

Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."


Any more arguments??

Now the question is - has the civil war begun for real?  Imagine checking on the well-being of one of these arseholes and being confronted with this.... looking for a missing person ...

WHAT a pity they weren't taken alive.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:05am
Always late to the party, Craps.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:06am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:05am:
Always late to the party, Craps.


That's pretty piss weak even for you - you lost, girlie.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:07am
Sigh, what a tragedy.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:07am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:04am:
Oh, well - I guess this settles the specious arguments then!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/526931216145969

"Have you seen Nathaniel?

Nathaniel Train, aged 46, was last seen in Dubbo on Thursday 16 December 2021; however, he remained in contact with his family until Sunday 9 October 2022.

Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."


Any more arguments??

Now the question is - has the civil war begun for real?  Imagine checking on the well-being of one of these arseholes and being confronted with this.... looking for a missing person ...

WHAT a pity they weren't taken alive.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:08am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:07am:
Sigh, what a tragedy.


That's pretty piss weak even for you, pissant.  You lost before you even started.  Quick on the amendment, weren't you?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:08am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:04am:
Oh, well - I guess this settles the specious arguments then!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/526931216145969

"Have you seen Nathaniel?

Nathaniel Train, aged 46, was last seen in Dubbo on Thursday 16 December 2021; however, he remained in contact with his family until Sunday 9 October 2022.

Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."


Any more arguments??

Now the question is - has the civil war begun for real?  Imagine checking on the well-being of one of these arseholes and being confronted with this.... looking for a missing person ...

WHAT a pity they weren't taken alive.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:10am
Anyway - I know a Black from Dubbo - pity it wasn't him .... there's always hope though.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:10am
Gareth Trains wife Stacey was also shot by police as being actively involved in the shootings/executions of Police & the neighbour. 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:12am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:08am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:07am:
Sigh, what a tragedy.


That's pretty piss weak even for you, pissant.  You lost before you even started.  Quick on the amendment, weren't you?



What on earth are you raving about this time?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:18am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:12am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:08am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:07am:
Sigh, what a tragedy.


That's pretty piss weak even for you, pissant.  You lost before you even started.  Quick on the amendment, weren't you?



What on earth are you raving about this time?


You've got some nerve continuing to discuss this after your comments.   Kanga started off with a hefty slag at Boris then pulled it fast when he actually read the news. 

He should heartily apologise, as should you.

Try to keep up- we all know how hard it is for you.

You could at least stick to the issues - including that the killers were Koons.... and stop your slagging and disruption.  We all know how hard it is for you to do that.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:18am

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:10am:
Gareth Trains wife Stacey was also shot by police as being actively involved in the shootings/executions of Police & the neighbour. 


Well - one more potential breeder down....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:19am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:04am:
Oh, well - I guess this settles the specious arguments then!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/526931216145969

"Have you seen Nathaniel?

Nathaniel Train, aged 46, was last seen in Dubbo on Thursday 16 December 2021; however, he remained in contact with his family until Sunday 9 October 2022.

Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."


Any more arguments??

Now the question is - has the civil war begun for real?  Imagine checking on the well-being of one of these arseholes and being confronted with this.... looking for a missing person ...

WHAT a pity they weren't taken alive.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:21am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:18am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:12am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:08am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:07am:
Sigh, what a tragedy.


That's pretty piss weak even for you, pissant.  You lost before you even started.  Quick on the amendment, weren't you?



What on earth are you raving about this time?


You've got some nerve continuing to discuss this after your comments.   Kanga started off with a hefty slag at Boris then pulled it fast when he actually read the news. 

He should heartily apologise, as should you.

Try to keep up- we all know how hard it is for you.

You could at least stick to the issues - including that the killers were Koons.... and stop your slagging and disruption.  We all know how hard it is for you to do that.


Your usual use of the most offensive pejorative you could think of noted, everyone but you and Boris in this thread so far disagrees.

But please ... keep posting things in very large font. That's sure to convince us.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:23am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:21am:
Your usual use of the most offensive pejorative you could think of noted, everyone but you and Boris in this thread so far disagrees.

But please ... keep posting things in very large font. That's sure to convince us.


What on earth are you raving about this time?

Would you prefer the term black front bottoms?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:24am

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:03am:

Boris wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:58am:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Nathaniel+Train%22+%22described+as+being+of+Aboriginal%2FTorres+Strait+Islander+appearance%22&rlz=1C1JZAP_enAU845AU845&sxsrf=ALiCzsaUjUXeuz21GJIjFTI3RSHXJhe7ww%3A1670889439798&ei=37-XY_mnMMrg4-EPp6S26AE&ved=0ahUKEwi5k5KcpPX7AhVK8DgGHSeSDR0Q4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=%22Nathaniel+Train%22+%22described+as+being+of+Aboriginal%2FTorres+Strait+Islander+appearance%22&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQA0oECEEYAUoECEYYAFCeFFjFM2CKOGgBcAB4AIABpQGIAdEDkgEDMC4zmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Ok, fair enough, nobody can argue with the ABC.

More of a Pascoe-type Aboriginal.


Imagine, though, a primary school principal with such hatred for the police, for anyone, as to execute them while they are in the ground wounded.
Shot at them to start with as they are walking up the drive. WFT?


He IS an Abo (not sure about his wife who was also involved ie as a KILLER) 😳


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:26am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...


Are you looking at the same pictures and me and Gonads and Frank?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:26am

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:10am:
Gareth Trains wife Stacey was also shot by police as being actively involved in the shootings/executions of Police & the neighbour. 


Crikey 😳

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:27am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:26am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...


Are you looking at the same pictures and me and Gonads and Frank?



What are you raving about this time?

The link is to NSW Police Reports ........

You ARE a SLOW one, aren't you.. very special needs ....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:31am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Aboriginality is allegedly NOT about colour. Note : I was informed of this "FACT" a week ago by a Caspar the Ghost looking woman with red hair and blue eyes who declared she was Aboriginal 😐

Back to the topic .... Nathaniel Train may not be as tan as me but his nose kinda looks Aboriginal like to me. Just an observation of course.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:32am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:27am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:26am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...


Are you looking at the same pictures and me and Gonads and Frank?



What are you raving about this time?

The link is to NSW Police Reports ........

You ARE a SLOW one, aren't you.. very special needs ....


I couldn't give a rat's arse who says what. The guy in that photo is not of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander appearance.

Secondly, both  Gonads and Frank said the same thing. Yet you're not asking for their apology.

Typical.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:35am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Aboriginality is allegedly NOT about colour. Note : I was informed of this "FACT" a week ago by a Caspar the Ghost looking woman with red hair and blue eyes who declared she was Aboriginal 😐

Back to the topic .... Nathaniel Train may not be as tan as me but his nose kinda looks Aboriginal like to me. Just an observation of course.


More information coming to light here:

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/brothers-and-wife-killed-in-qld-shootout-c-9143722.amp

A man at the centre of an ambush attack and siege on Queensland's Darling Downs in which six people were killed, including two police, had been missing from his western NSW home for almost a year.

Nathaniel Train died in a shootout with police reinforcements alongside his brother Gareth and wife Stacey at the remote scene, sources have confirmed to AAP.

All three are considered to be offenders actively involved in the ambush.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:37am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:32am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:27am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:26am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...


Are you looking at the same pictures and me and Gonads and Frank?



What are you raving about this time?

The link is to NSW Police Reports ........

You ARE a SLOW one, aren't you.. very special needs ....


I couldn't give a rat's arse who says what. The guy in that photo is not of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander appearance.

Secondly, both  Gonads and Frank said the same thing. Yet you're not asking for their apology.

Typical.


Talk about desperate... so now he doesn't 'look' Abo - but any other time if you want him to be for some benefit, he will be...

Get help.

Gnads and Frank asked for clarification and a link - you leapt to the fray instantly - as usual.

Now lie about that.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:38am
Back to THE TOPIC ....


Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Aboriginality is allegedly NOT about colour. Note : I was informed of this "FACT" a week ago by a Caspar the Ghost looking woman with red hair and blue eyes who declared she was Aboriginal 😐

Back to the topic .... Nathaniel Train may not be as tan as me but his nose kinda looks Aboriginal like to me. Just an observation of course.


More information coming to light here:

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/brothers-and-wife-killed-in-qld-shootout-c-9143722.amp

A man at the centre of an ambush attack and siege on Queensland's Darling Downs in which six people were killed, including two police, had been missing from his western NSW home for almost a year.

Nathaniel Train died in a shootout with police reinforcements alongside his brother Gareth and wife Stacey at the remote scene, sources have confirmed to AAP.

All three are considered to be offenders actively involved in the ambush.


NSW police last week launched an appeal for public assistance to locate 46-year-old Nathaniel Train, last seen at his residence in Dubbo on December 16, 2021.

While his whereabouts were unknown, it was believed Train, a former schoolteacher, had remained in touch with his family until early October.


Train was described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, with a thin build and a long, grey beard.

He was last seen wearing a white shirt and jeans and was known to always wear brown boots.

Police sources have confirmed Train was one of the gunmen later shot dead by police at Wains Road in Wieambilla on Monday night.

Earlier in the day, he and his brother Gareth allegedly gunned down police constables Matthew Arnold, 26, and Rachel McCrow, 29 who were there apparently in search of Train.

A neighbour, 58, who went to the scene following the disturbance, was also fatally shot.

Local media reports indicate Gareth and Stacey Train owned the property.

According to News Corp Australia, Nathaniel Train had previously worked as a primary school principal at Walgett and had at one time taught in Queensland.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:40am
NSW Police Reports not good enough for you, mothra?  Some massive white conspiracy, is it?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:40am
All this large font! All of the desperate vying for attention.

Reminds me of a time dear old Cods wrote a monologue to me in all caps. I gave up trying to read it. No idea what she said to me.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:41am
Back to THE TOPIC ....


Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Aboriginality is allegedly NOT about colour. Note : I was informed of this "FACT" a week ago by a Caspar the Ghost looking woman with red hair and blue eyes who declared she was Aboriginal 😐

Back to the topic .... Nathaniel Train may not be as tan as me but his nose kinda looks Aboriginal like to me. Just an observation of course.


More information coming to light here:

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/brothers-and-wife-killed-in-qld-shootout-c-9143722.amp

A man at the centre of an ambush attack and siege on Queensland's Darling Downs in which six people were killed, including two police, had been missing from his western NSW home for almost a year.

Nathaniel Train died in a shootout with police reinforcements alongside his brother Gareth and wife Stacey at the remote scene, sources have confirmed to AAP.

All three are considered to be offenders actively involved in the ambush.


NSW police last week launched an appeal for public assistance to locate 46-year-old Nathaniel Train, last seen at his residence in Dubbo on December 16, 2021.

While his whereabouts were unknown, it was believed Train, a former schoolteacher, had remained in touch with his family until early October.


Train was described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, with a thin build and a long, grey beard.

He was last seen wearing a white shirt and jeans and was known to always wear brown boots.

Police sources have confirmed Train was one of the gunmen later shot dead by police at Wains Road in Wieambilla on Monday night.

Earlier in the day, he and his brother Gareth allegedly gunned down police constables Matthew Arnold, 26, and Rachel McCrow, 29 who were there apparently in search of Train.

A neighbour, 58, who went to the scene following the disturbance, was also fatally shot.

Local media reports indicate Gareth and Stacey Train owned the property.

According to News Corp Australia, Nathaniel Train had previously worked as a primary school principal at Walgett and had at one time taught in Queensland.

Anyone know if Nathaniel's wife was ALSO Aboriginal?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:44am
Well one wouldnt want to be a koon doing anything slightly wrong while encountering a Qld cop  for a while.

it would be shoot first and ask questions afterwards I suspect!




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:46am
For whatever reason - the wife must have participated to be shot down with the others.

Waiting for someone to come out with the 'gunned down in cold blood in retaliation' theory ....

Anyway - another potential breeder out of the way .....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:49am

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:44am:
Well one wouldnt want to be a koon doing anything slightly wrong while encountering a Qld cop  for a while.

it would be shoot first and ask questions afterwards I suspect!


Them's the breaks... people reap what they sow...

Reckon it'll be "on the ground arms and legs stretched.. NOW!!"

Can you blame them?

I take it that's three less YES votes for the voice then?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:51am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:40am:
All this large font! All of the desperate vying for attention.

Reminds me of a time dear old Cods wrote a monologue to me in all caps. I gave up trying to read it. No idea what she said to me.



Learning from Kat.... and don't you hate it!!!

Do you ever stop wandering off topic in your desperation to be relevant when you've already shot yourself in both feet??

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:56am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:51am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:40am:
All this large font! All of the desperate vying for attention.

Reminds me of a time dear old Cods wrote a monologue to me in all caps. I gave up trying to read it. No idea what she said to me.



Learning from Kat.... and don't you hate it!!!

Do you ever stop wandering off topic in your desperation to be relevant when you've already shot yourself in both feet??


Did you look at the photo? Does that guy look Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander to you?

It didn't to anyone else.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57am
And i don't hate your large font. I just think it's grandiose and pathetic.

Bit like you really.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:59am
https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/526931216145969

"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. "

You could at least pretend to read the link to NSW Police Force ...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01am
mothra triggered ... curled up in a corner gasping for breath and rocking back and forth while moaning out loud...


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:07am
Would you like a taste of the Stealth Glitch that pushed Lefty into oblivion, girlie?  Just to keep you going, girlie....


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:09am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:56am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:51am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:40am:
All this large font! All of the desperate vying for attention.

Reminds me of a time dear old Cods wrote a monologue to me in all caps. I gave up trying to read it. No idea what she said to me.



Learning from Kat.... and don't you hate it!!!

Do you ever stop wandering off topic in your desperation to be relevant when you've already shot yourself in both feet??


Did you look at the photo? Does that guy look Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander to you?


Sooooo racist, Mothra Theresa,  judging by looks.... next you'll tell us Pascoe isn't Aboriginal.  tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)


Aboriginal Identity: Who is 'Aboriginal'?
People who identify themselves as 'Aboriginal' range from dark-skinned, broad-nosed to blonde-haired, blue-eyed people. Aboriginal people define Aboriginality not by skin colour but by relationships. Light-skinned Aboriginal people often face challenges on their Aboriginal identity because of stereotyping.

Source: Aboriginal Identity: Who is 'Aboriginal'? - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/aboriginal-identity-who-is-aboriginal

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:13am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01am:
mothra triggered ... curled up in a corner gasping for breath and rocking back and forth while moaning out loud...



You're clearly not well. When is the last time you had a good chat with your GP?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:14am

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:09am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:56am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:51am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:40am:
All this large font! All of the desperate vying for attention.

Reminds me of a time dear old Cods wrote a monologue to me in all caps. I gave up trying to read it. No idea what she said to me.



Learning from Kat.... and don't you hate it!!!

Do you ever stop wandering off topic in your desperation to be relevant when you've already shot yourself in both feet??


Did you look at the photo? Does that guy look Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander to you?


Sooooo racist, Mothra Theresa,  judging by looks.... next you'll tell us Pascoe isn't Aboriginal.  tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)


Aboriginal Identity: Who is 'Aboriginal'?
People who identify themselves as 'Aboriginal' range from dark-skinned, broad-nosed to blonde-haired, blue-eyed people. Aboriginal people define Aboriginality not by skin colour but by relationships. Light-skinned Aboriginal people often face challenges on their Aboriginal identity because of stereotyping.

Source: Aboriginal Identity: Who is 'Aboriginal'? - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/aboriginal-identity-who-is-aboriginal


Would you have described the person in those photos as being Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander Frank?

Bear in mind, you didn't a page or so back.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:18am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:14am:
Would you have described the person in those photos as being Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander Frank?

Bear in mind, you didn't a page or so back.


Nose and eyes were a dead giveaway...



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:20am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:59am:
https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/526931216145969

"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. "

You could at least pretend to read the link to NSW Police Force ...


Evasion... evasion..... you were caught this time fairly, mothra - stop squirming and just own up...


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:27am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:41am:
Back to THE TOPIC ....


Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Aboriginality is allegedly NOT about colour. Note : I was informed of this "FACT" a week ago by a Caspar the Ghost looking woman with red hair and blue eyes who declared she was Aboriginal 😐

Back to the topic .... Nathaniel Train may not be as tan as me but his nose kinda looks Aboriginal like to me. Just an observation of course.


More information coming to light here:

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/brothers-and-wife-killed-in-qld-shootout-c-9143722.amp

A man at the centre of an ambush attack and siege on Queensland's Darling Downs in which six people were killed, including two police, had been missing from his western NSW home for almost a year.

Nathaniel Train died in a shootout with police reinforcements alongside his brother Gareth and wife Stacey at the remote scene, sources have confirmed to AAP.

All three are considered to be offenders actively involved in the ambush.


NSW police last week launched an appeal for public assistance to locate 46-year-old Nathaniel Train, last seen at his residence in Dubbo on December 16, 2021.

While his whereabouts were unknown, it was believed Train, a former schoolteacher, had remained in touch with his family until early October.


Train was described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, with a thin build and a long, grey beard.

He was last seen wearing a white shirt and jeans and was known to always wear brown boots.

Police sources have confirmed Train was one of the gunmen later shot dead by police at Wains Road in Wieambilla on Monday night.

Earlier in the day, he and his brother Gareth allegedly gunned down police constables Matthew Arnold, 26, and Rachel McCrow, 29 who were there apparently in search of Train.

A neighbour, 58, who went to the scene following the disturbance, was also fatally shot.

Local media reports indicate Gareth and Stacey Train owned the property.

According to News Corp Australia, Nathaniel Train had previously worked as a primary school principal at Walgett and had at one time taught in Queensland.

Anyone know if Nathaniel's wife was ALSO Aboriginal?


Ok here's what I was able to find:

2 brothers - Nathaniel and Gareth Train. Both were Aboriginals.

Gareth Train was married to Stacey Jane Train.

All 3 were school teachers.

I'm not sure if Stacey Jane Train was Aboriginal but she was actively involved in the teacher's Union.

All 3 were shot dead by police AFTER these 3 killed those 2 young police officers in their 20's.

Nothing makes sense really. Oh and as we now know that the 2 brothers were in fact Aborigines (remember Aboriginality is not about colour) I'm hoping we could move on. As a matter of fact I'm focused more on the professions involved in this tragedy.

Has anyone else noticed that this incident is about State Govt employed teachers and State Govt employed police officers? Professionals killing professionals.

Gnads has indicated that there might very well be a link with drugs. I concur.

Even so .... I can't help but feel that there's more to this than drugs.

Anyone know where Aussie or Freediver is? I wouldn't mind hearing their take on all this.





Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:40am

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:09am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:56am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:51am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:40am:
All this large font! All of the desperate vying for attention.

Reminds me of a time dear old Cods wrote a monologue to me in all caps. I gave up trying to read it. No idea what she said to me.



Learning from Kat.... and don't you hate it!!!

Do you ever stop wandering off topic in your desperation to be relevant when you've already shot yourself in both feet??


Did you look at the photo? Does that guy look Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander to you?


Sooooo racist, Mothra Theresa,  judging by looks.... next you'll tell us Pascoe isn't Aboriginal.  tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)


Aboriginal Identity: Who is 'Aboriginal'?
People who identify themselves as 'Aboriginal' range from dark-skinned, broad-nosed to blonde-haired, blue-eyed people. Aboriginal people define Aboriginality not by skin colour but by relationships. Light-skinned Aboriginal people often face challenges on their Aboriginal identity because of stereotyping.

Source: Aboriginal Identity: Who is 'Aboriginal'? - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/aboriginal-identity-who-is-aboriginal


Would you have described the person in those photos as being Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander Frank?

Bear in mind, you didn't a page or so back.

He doesn't look Aboriginal to me but then half the Aborigines who claim so don't. But the police describe him as of such appearance, as did the ABC.

By all accounts he was an effective school principal. But he's gone 'missing' 12 months ago while in touch with family - that's odd. The boiling hatred for the police, shared by his brother an his wife,  is very strange. The two young cops, barely a year in the service, could not have been personally known to them, so they just fired at the uniforms and then executed them where they lay on the ground. To shoot the brother's neighbour is also very strange.

None of this is because of 'Aboriginal appearance'. It could have been survivalist Norwegians or jihadi Lebs or 5th generation farmers fed up with the insolence of the state or whatever. But my guess is that if they are Aborigines indeed, that will be important for the understanding of their motives. Most likely it will not be peripheral if they do turn out to be Aborigines. Nowadays Aboriginality is not peripheral to anything.

At least they are not trans or gay or feminists or vegans or fat or African or Muslim, so those identity angles are not in play. Phew!



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:42am
I can't believe that—considering this tragic killing of two police
officers—that this thread has deteriorated to the level of personal
insults, character assassinations, arguments about racism, and
other off-topic bullshit.

Where are the moderators here?  Why do people such as Mothra
get away with repeatedly derailing threads such as this?  Why is
she not suspended for repeated breaches of the forum's terms
and conditions?

Some of her individual, idiotic, irrelevant  one-liner responses in this thread...


Quote:
Tell me Fleadriver, how does one's demographic provide us with their intent?

•  God knows what he's speaking. Like, any of the time.

•  And we're awayyyyyyyyy.

•  Seriously. What is it that is actually wrong with you?

•  What on earth are you raving about this time?

•  Your usual use of the most offensive pejorative you could think of noted.

•  But please ... keep posting things in very large font. That's sure to convince us.

•  All this large font! All of the desperate vying for attention.

•  And I don't hate your large font. I just think it's grandiose and pathetic.

•  Bit like you really.

•  You're clearly not well. When is the last time you had a good chat with your GP?


And that's only a sample of the utter crap this girlie posts here.      >:(


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:49am
PLEASE LET'S JUST IGNORE METHRA! She's clearly only here to bait/troll and derail a topic involving terrible tragedy.


Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:41am:
Back to THE TOPIC ....


Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Aboriginality is allegedly NOT about colour. Note : I was informed of this "FACT" a week ago by a Caspar the Ghost looking woman with red hair and blue eyes who declared she was Aboriginal 😐

Back to the topic .... Nathaniel Train may not be as tan as me but his nose kinda looks Aboriginal like to me. Just an observation of course.


More information coming to light here:

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/brothers-and-wife-killed-in-qld-shootout-c-9143722.amp

A man at the centre of an ambush attack and siege on Queensland's Darling Downs in which six people were killed, including two police, had been missing from his western NSW home for almost a year.

Nathaniel Train died in a shootout with police reinforcements alongside his brother Gareth and wife Stacey at the remote scene, sources have confirmed to AAP.

All three are considered to be offenders actively involved in the ambush.


NSW police last week launched an appeal for public assistance to locate 46-year-old Nathaniel Train, last seen at his residence in Dubbo on December 16, 2021.

While his whereabouts were unknown, it was believed Train, a former schoolteacher, had remained in touch with his family until early October.


Train was described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, with a thin build and a long, grey beard.

He was last seen wearing a white shirt and jeans and was known to always wear brown boots.

Police sources have confirmed Train was one of the gunmen later shot dead by police at Wains Road in Wieambilla on Monday night.

Earlier in the day, he and his brother Gareth allegedly gunned down police constables Matthew Arnold, 26, and Rachel McCrow, 29 who were there apparently in search of Train.

A neighbour, 58, who went to the scene following the disturbance, was also fatally shot.

Local media reports indicate Gareth and Stacey Train owned the property.

According to News Corp Australia, Nathaniel Train had previously worked as a primary school principal at Walgett and had at one time taught in Queensland.

Anyone know if Nathaniel's wife was ALSO Aboriginal?


Ok here's what I was able to find:

2 brothers - Nathaniel and Gareth Train. Both were Aboriginals.

Gareth Train was married to Stacey Jane Train.

All 3 were school teachers.

I'm not sure if Stacey Jane Train was Aboriginal but she was actively involved in the teacher's Union.

All 3 were shot dead by police AFTER these 3 killed those 2 young police officers in their 20's.

Nothing makes sense really. Oh and as we now know that the 2 brothers were in fact Aborigines (remember Aboriginality is not about colour) I'm hoping we could move on. As a matter of fact I'm focused more on the professions involved in this tragedy.

Has anyone else noticed that this incident is about State Govt employed teachers and State Govt employed police officers? Professionals killing professionals.

Gnads has indicated that there might very well be a link with drugs. I concur.

Even so .... I can't help but feel that there's more to this than drugs.

Anyone know where Aussie or Freediver is? I wouldn't mind hearing their take on all this.




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:06pm

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:42am:
And that's only a sample of the utter crap this girlie posts here.      >:(


Your efforts to admonish Mothra are admirable.  How about evening it up a bit?  Boris, Graps, Soren, Gnads all need criticism too, you realise?  They are just as guilty as Mothra of, "posting utter crap," all the time.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:10pm
A simple admission of error on her behalf at the start would have saved a lot of verbiage.

Haven't seen that yet....

Anyway - people who provide links at least make the attempt - doesn't guarantee the total accuracy of a link but still ...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:11pm
school teachers and unionists?

leftie propagandists and jealous socialists.

low vibration energy .



this is why the seething anger of the leftie is so dangerous . it leads to violence or as CNN call anti-fa rioting "mostly peaceful demonstrations"


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:14pm
I'd like to know what this was all about. Says a simple 'well-being check' request for a missing person... why would that end in ambush, murder and shootout?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:16pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
I'd like to know what this was all about. Says a simple 'well-being check' request for a missing person... why would that end in ambush, murder and shootout?


I tend to agree, its hard to fathom isnt it!



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:42am:
And that's only a sample of the utter crap this girlie posts here.      >:(


Your efforts to admonish Mothra are admirable.  How about evening it up a bit?  Boris, Graps, Soren, Gnads all need criticism too, you realise?  They are just as guilty as Mothra of, "posting utter crap," all the time.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


Aaaand .....  the Doktor of Milk Monitiring is in, tut-tuts an' all.


We should call you Tuttutsie, Bbwian.




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:29pm

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:56am:
Did you look at the photo? Does that guy look Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander to you?

It didn't to anyone else.



Quote:
Appeal to locate missing man from Dubbo
Thursday, 08 December 2022

Police are appealing for public assistance to locate a missing man from the state’s west.

Nathaniel Train, aged 46, was last seen in Dubbo on Thursday 16 December 2021; however, he remained in contact with his family until Sunday 9 October 2022.

Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard.

https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMTA0NDc3Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D



Lefties claim we aren't allowed to question someones Aboriginal status.

Your rules you should follow them unless you're now saying it's ok to ask this question.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:36pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
I'd like to know what this was all about. Says a simple 'well-being check' request for a missing person... why would that end in ambush, murder and shootout?


A news report claimed the brother had a strong dislike for police.

Lots of criminals say they will shoot it out with police to avoid arrest very few actually do it.

I wonder if the brother had a criminal record.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:36pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.

No - they were executed, Arse.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:41pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html

EXCLUSIVE: How cop killer and his school principal brother were fuelled by evil conspiracy theories about police and guns before they murdered two officers and an innocent neighbour in off-grid property ambush





    Gareth Train, his brother Nathaniel and wife Stacey were shot dead on Monday
    The trio had fatally shot two officers at their home in Wieambilla, Queensland
    Four officers had arrived at the home on Monday afternoon at about 4.30
    Constables Rachel McCrow and Matthew Arnold were killed by the trio
    An innocent neighbour, Alan Dare, who'd ran over to investigate was also killed
    Gareth shared a bizarre string of conspiracy theories online in recent months 
    He believed the Port Arthur massacre was an inside job 

By Eliza Mcphee and Kevin Airs For Daily Mail Australia

Published: 13:04 AEDT, 13 December 2022 | Updated: 13:28 AEDT, 13 December 2022

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:43pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:16pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
I'd like to know what this was all about. Says a simple 'well-being check' request for a missing person... why would that end in ambush, murder and shootout?


I tend to agree, its hard to fathom isnt it!


I'm with you 2.

There's definitely more to this tragedy. And I don't think we can
explain it all by way of a link with drugs.

Who's ever heard of a bunch of teachers shoot a bunch of police officers before in Australia?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:44pm

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:32am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:27am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:26am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...


Are you looking at the same pictures and me and Gonads and Frank?



What are you raving about this time?

The link is to NSW Police Reports ........

You ARE a SLOW one, aren't you.. very special needs ....


I couldn't give a rat's arse who says what. The guy in that photo is not of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander appearance.

Secondly, both  Gonads and Frank said the same thing. Yet you're not asking for their apology.

Typical.



Yeah I said he doesn't look it but I didn't say he wasn't ... I've seen another photo since & you could say that you can see it in him in that one.

This one shows the potential to say that he could be of Aboriginal descent.

The nose has it.
Nathaniel_Train2.jpg (27 KB | 10 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:42am:
And that's only a sample of the utter crap this girlie posts here.      >:(


Your efforts to admonish Mothra are admirable.  How about evening it up a bit?  Boris, Graps, Soren, Gnads all need criticism too, you realise?  They are just as guilty as Mothra of, "posting utter crap," all the time.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


But not you ey PhukKnuckle?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:41pm:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html

EXCLUSIVE: How cop killer and his school principal brother were fuelled by evil conspiracy theories about police and guns before they murdered two officers and an innocent neighbour in off-grid property ambush





    Gareth Train, his brother Nathaniel and wife Stacey were shot dead on Monday
    The trio had fatally shot two officers at their home in Wieambilla, Queensland
    Four officers had arrived at the home on Monday afternoon at about 4.30
    Constables Rachel McCrow and Matthew Arnold were killed by the trio
    An innocent neighbour, Alan Dare, who'd ran over to investigate was also killed
    Gareth shared a bizarre string of conspiracy theories online in recent months 
    He believed the Port Arthur massacre was an inside job 

By Eliza Mcphee and Kevin Airs For Daily Mail Australia

Published: 13:04 AEDT, 13 December 2022 | Updated: 13:28 AEDT, 13 December 2022


OMG!

Aboriginal Conspiracy Theory Extremists! What a lethal cocktail!






Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:50pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.


::) Surely you jest?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.


::) Surely you jest?


Maybe...just thinking out loud.  There'd be no revenge element at play, I'm sure, ey?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:42am:
And that's only a sample of the utter crap this girlie posts here.      >:(


Your efforts to admonish Mothra are admirable.  How about evening it up a bit?  Boris, Graps, Soren, Gnads all need criticism too, you realise?  They are just as guilty as Mothra of, "posting utter crap," all the time.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


But not you ey PhukKnuckle?


Ignore the hypocritical multi cyber junkie fwit please ESPECIALLY when he barges in under that id to justify the trolling and derailing caused by his multi cyber junkie buddies ☹️

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:53pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.


::) Surely you jest?


Maybe...just thinking out loud.  There'd be no revenge element at play, I'm sure, ey?


Aussie stop talking to yourself!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by issuevoter on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:11pm
And today, misguided members of the public worship the Kelly's for doing the same thing, even desecrating the grave of the police they murdered.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:16pm
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/shooting/queensland-police-shooting-nathaniel-train-missing-primary-school-principal-shot-dead-c-9143871



Queensland police shooting: Missing primary school principal Nathaniel Train shot dead


Brianna DuganPerthNow
December 13, 2022 11:10AM


The missing man at the centre of a bloody Queensland massacre, which killed two police officers, is a NSW primary school principal who is believed to have been shot dead alongside his brother at their rural home.

Nathaniel Train and his brother Gareth, along with Gareth’s wife Stacey, allegedly lived at the Wieambilla home — 300km west of Brisbane — where the premeditated tragedy unfolded.

Six people, including two young police officers and a neighbour, were killed in an ambush at the property, south of Chinchilla.
Queensland Police killed - NSW man Nathaniel Train shot dead by Qld police in bloody massacre
NSW man Nathaniel Train. Credit: Supplied/Supplied

It is believed three of the shooters, two men and a woman, are among those dead.

Police are yet to release the identities of those killed inside the home but reports suggest Train and his brother were shot dead by police.

Four QLD police officers were sent to the Wieambilla property by NSW police, in search for the missing primary school principal who had not been seen since December 16, 2021.

However, it is believed the 46-year-old — a former primary school principal at Yorkeys Knob State School and executive principal of Walgett Community College Primary School — was in contact with family until October 9, 2022.

The Daily Telegraph was told that there were warnings one of Mr Train’s relatives had a strong dislike for police.

The four officers who arrived at the home were met with a hail of gunfire, about 4.30pm on Monday, by three shooters dressed in camouflage gear.

In what looks to be a premeditated attack, the three alleged shooters opened fire from inside the house as police walked up the driveway to enquire about Mr Train.

Horrifyingly, two of the wounded police — Const. Rachel McCrow, 26, and Const. Matthew Arnold, 29 — who lay wounded on the ground, were then approached by two shooters clad in military-style camouflage and shot execution-style.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:18pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11530829/Tributes-flow-Alan-Dare-killed-remote-bush-property-mass-shooting-Wieambilla-Queensland.html


He went to investigate a fire and 'do the right thing' and was shot dead:
Tributes flow for neighbour killed in remote bush property mass shooting




    Alan Dare, 58,
    was killed in a mass shooting that also saw two cops shot dead
    He heard a commotion at a neighbouring property and went to check it out  
    On Tuesday, his step-son said Mr Dare's body was 'lying in the middle of the road'
    Mr Dare lived on the property with his wife. He was also a loving grandfather 
    At least four officers went on the initial callout to property in rural Queensland 
    Constables killed identified as Matthew Arnold, 29, and Rachel McCrow, 26 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:22pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.


::) Surely you jest?


Maybe...just thinking out loud.  There'd be no revenge element at play, I'm sure, ey?


What I read online news that these murderers took the radio thingys and glocks from the dead officers.
So they would know what police moves were on the radio.
Killing the neighbour, shooting the 3rd officer in the leg and trying to flush out the 4th officer hiding in the bush by setting it alight.
Sounds to me like… they would’ve been asked to give themselves up but most likely by then… these murderers didn’t care to turn themselves in… maybe gun shots fired to do more police injury?
That’s the path they were on… so I’m certain they were given an option to drop weapons and surrender.
They were armed and dangerous so I doubt very much police did a revenge killing without it being in self defence.
And to be in a situation where police kill someone… it affects them. I know of one such ex cop from Newcastle that ended up leaving the force because of the way it affected him.

I read the area they were in was a “blockie” area rife with marijuana and drug deals/trades.

Drugs can change people… even prescription anti depression too. I see so many sad stories of unintended killings or suicides.
But that’s another story.

Well these murderers are now gone and I thought… less tax payers money to Molly coddle them along in courts/jail/legal fees etc.
End of.

My condolences to the families and friends and co-workers of those 2 young police officers.
And also to the innocent neighbour.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:27pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.


::) Surely you jest?


Maybe...just thinking out loud.  There'd be no revenge element at play, I'm sure, ey?


What I read online news that these murderers took the radio thingys and glocks from the dead officers.
So they would know what police moves were on the radio.
Killing the neighbour, shooting the 3rd officer in the leg and trying to flush out the 4th officer hiding in the bush by setting it alight.
Sounds to me like… they would’ve been asked to give themselves up but most likely by then… these murderers didn’t care to turn themselves in… maybe gun shots fired to do more police injury?
That’s the path they were on… so I’m certain they were given an option to drop weapons and surrender.
They were armed and dangerous so I doubt very much police did a revenge killing without it being in self defence.
And to be in a situation where police kill someone… it affects them. I know of one such ex cop from Newcastle that ended up leaving the force because of the way it affected him.

I read the area they were in was a “blockie” area rife with marijuana and drug deals/trades.

Drugs can change people… even prescription anti depression too. I see so made sad stories of unintended killings or suicides.
But that’s another story.

Well these murderers are now gone and I thought… less tax payers money to Molly coddle them along in courts/jail/legal fees etc.
End of.

My condolences to the families and friends and co-workers of those 2 young police officers.
And also to the innocent neighbour.


It seems this had nothing to do with drugs and all to do with hatred of coppers, a planned ambush, and protest against the disarming of the civilian population after Pt Arthur.

Let's assume it was an ambush.

That means they intended the Cops to arrive there.

That means the people who made the missing person report may have had some part to play in luring the police straight into that ambush.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:37pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:27pm:
It seems this had nothing to do with drugs and all to do with hatred of coppers, a planned ambush, and protest against the disarming of the civilian population after Pt Arthur.

Let's assume it was an ambush.

That means they intended the Cops to arrive there.

That means the people who made the missing person report may have had some part to play in luring the police straight into that ambush.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-63952882

With investigations ongoing, Ms Carroll said she couldn't say if police were lured to the property,
or comment on a possible motive. She said "many weapons" were used during the incident.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:27pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.


::) Surely you jest?


Maybe...just thinking out loud.  There'd be no revenge element at play, I'm sure, ey?


What I read online news that these murderers took the radio thingys and glocks from the dead officers.
So they would know what police moves were on the radio.
Killing the neighbour, shooting the 3rd officer in the leg and trying to flush out the 4th officer hiding in the bush by setting it alight.
Sounds to me like… they would’ve been asked to give themselves up but most likely by then… these murderers didn’t care to turn themselves in… maybe gun shots fired to do more police injury?
That’s the path they were on… so I’m certain they were given an option to drop weapons and surrender.
They were armed and dangerous so I doubt very much police did a revenge killing without it being in self defence.
And to be in a situation where police kill someone… it affects them. I know of one such ex cop from Newcastle that ended up leaving the force because of the way it affected him.

I read the area they were in was a “blockie” area rife with marijuana and drug deals/trades.

Drugs can change people… even prescription anti depression too. I see so made sad stories of unintended killings or suicides.
But that’s another story.

Well these murderers are now gone and I thought… less tax payers money to Molly coddle them along in courts/jail/legal fees etc.
End of.

My condolences to the families and friends and co-workers of those 2 young police officers.
And also to the innocent neighbour.


It seems this had nothing to do with drugs and all to do with hatred of coppers, a planned ambush, and protest against the disarming of the civilian population after Pt Arthur.

Let's assume it was an ambush.

That means they intended the Cops to arrive there.

That means the people who made the missing person report may have had some part to play in luring the police straight into that ambush.


Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:43pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:27pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
I do hope the Coppers did not themselves become cold blooded killers.


::) Surely you jest?


Maybe...just thinking out loud.  There'd be no revenge element at play, I'm sure, ey?


What I read online news that these murderers took the radio thingys and glocks from the dead officers.
So they would know what police moves were on the radio.
Killing the neighbour, shooting the 3rd officer in the leg and trying to flush out the 4th officer hiding in the bush by setting it alight.
Sounds to me like… they would’ve been asked to give themselves up but most likely by then… these murderers didn’t care to turn themselves in… maybe gun shots fired to do more police injury?
That’s the path they were on… so I’m certain they were given an option to drop weapons and surrender.
They were armed and dangerous so I doubt very much police did a revenge killing without it being in self defence.
And to be in a situation where police kill someone… it affects them. I know of one such ex cop from Newcastle that ended up leaving the force because of the way it affected him.

I read the area they were in was a “blockie” area rife with marijuana and drug deals/trades.

Drugs can change people… even prescription anti depression too. I see so made sad stories of unintended killings or suicides.
But that’s another story.

Well these murderers are now gone and I thought… less tax payers money to Molly coddle them along in courts/jail/legal fees etc.
End of.

My condolences to the families and friends and co-workers of those 2 young police officers.
And also to the innocent neighbour.


It seems this had nothing to do with drugs and all to do with hatred of coppers, a planned ambush, and protest against the disarming of the civilian population after Pt Arthur.

Let's assume it was an ambush.

That means they intended the Cops to arrive there.

That means the people who made the missing person report may have had some part to play in luring the police straight into that ambush.

Okay… let’s leave drugs out of it then… or if it was an ambush… these things are not known till after the fact… till it’s too late… with cops and neighbour dead.

I was addressing that accusatory situation of police revenge…that I don’t believe cops would just go in to kill without giving them a chance to drop weapons and surrender.
They’d be on high alert no doubt …. nothing non chalant in this situation.




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:45pm
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/wieambilla-property-owner-gareth-train-brother-nathaniel-missing-man-shooting-qld-queensland-police-officers



Wieambilla shooting: property owner Gareth Train
posted regularly on online conspiracy website before police killed


Exclusive: The brother of missing man Nathaniel Train had posted about preparing an ark and alleging the Port Arthur attack was a ‘false-flag’ operation

    Slain police officers ‘didn’t stand a chance’
    Police were seeking missing school principal Nathaniel Train
    Get our morning and afternoon news emails, free app or daily news podcast


A person who knew Gareth and his wife said they believed he had been sucked into online conspiracy theories in recent years.

He appears to have been a prolific poster on an alternative website that posts conspiracy, anti-authoritarian and other articles. He said in one recent post he had been “ark homesteading for the past five years preparing to survive tomorrow”.

“When it becomes clear that we are in a time like no other and you head out into the wilderness to escape persecution, know that my wife and I will offer refuge to all brothers and sisters,” he posted.

“I will be scanning the UHF channels when that times comes.”

Gareth said the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 – Australia’s deadliest mass shooting – had been a “false flag” operation to “disarm the Australian population”.

He also posted about his mistrust for authorities, including comments critical of the Queensland Special Emergency Response Team (Sert), which ultimately arrived at the property and is understood to have shot him.

“If you are a conservative, anti-vaxx [sic], freedom lover, protester, common law, conspiracy talker, alternative news, independent critical thinker, truther, Christian, patriot etc etc expect a visit from these hammers,” he said.

Gareth also posted about working in the Queensland child protection and education systems and appeared pre-occupied with the notion the government was running “re-education camps”.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at least someone appreciates my research.     :'(

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:58pm
https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/gareth-train-exposed-as-online-conspiracy-theorist-after-queensland-police-shooting/news-story/07fa5fdc00adf39dd72d3c7401e4e9d7


Gareth Train exposed as online conspiracy theorist after Queensland police shooting

One of three suspects killed after executing two young police officers had been heavily involved with online conspiracy theories.

Alexis Carey

December 13, 2022 - 2:41PM


Gareth Train – who was killed alongside his brother and partner after the brutal slayings of two police officers and a neighbour – has been exposed as an online conspiracy theorist who hated cops and believed the Port Arthur massacre was a “false flag operation”.

On Monday afternoon, Constable Rachel McCrow and Constable Matthew Arnold were gunned down while carrying out a routine missing person inquiry at 251 Wains Rd, Wieambilla in Queensland’s Darling Downs region.

Do you know more about this developing story? Email alexis.carey@news.com.au

An innocent neighbour, Alan Dare, was also executed in the attack, with Queensland police commissioner Katarina Carroll confirming “a lot of ammunition and weaponry” had been found at the address.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:03pm
One of the brothers was a retired school principal from Dubbo?

"Indigenous" ancestry? Doesn't look it.

Thought the Port Arthur Massacre was a government hoax?

Was building a kind of "ark" style property to be a "survivalist"?

One weird family.  :D

Good riddance to them.

Very sad for those two young Police officers and the other victim of the murderous attack.  :(




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm
If you have Google Earth - the property is 251 Wains Road Wieambilla QLD.

The plot thickens.

Conspiracy theorists - who may have lured the Police there ....

you tell me why they would take this step knowing full well that it might end in their deaths?

Got to be something affcting their thought processes & causing the paranoia...

if it isn't drugs then WTF?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:11pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
One of the brothers was a retired school principal from Dubbo?

"Indigenous" ancestry? Doesn't look it.

Thought the Port Arthur Massacre was a government hoax?

Was building a kind of "ark" style property to be a "survivalist"?

One weird family.  :D

Good riddance to them.

Very sad for those two young Police officers and the other victim of the murderous attack.  :(


He wasn't retired - he was a former school principle at Yorkeys Knob near Cairns & also at Walgett.

Walgett has a large Aboriginal community.

Not looking as if he has Aboriginal ancestry means nothing today.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Ayn Marx on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:11pm
Has it ever occurred to any of you the internet is the perfect 'place' in induce obsessional hysteria through closed communities reinforcing their collective delusions?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:13pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:11pm:
Has it ever occurred to any of you the internet is the perfect 'place' in induce obsessional hysteria through closed communities reinforcing their collective delusions?


No shyte? ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:14pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
One of the brothers was a retired school principal from Dubbo?

"Indigenous" ancestry? Doesn't look it.

Thought the Port Arthur Massacre was a government hoax?

Was building a kind of "ark" style property to be a "survivalist"?

One weird family.  :D

Good riddance to them.

Very sad for those two young Police officers and the other victim of the murderous attack.  :(


He wasn't retired - he was a former school principle at Yorkeys Knob near Cairns & also at Walgett.

Walgett has a large Aboriginal community.

Not looking as if he has Aboriginal ancestry means nothing today.


He quit the education department a year or so ago?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:15pm
Gareth and Stacey's home - which was off the grid, and which he appeared to be prepping for an imminent apocalypse, with extensive solar panels and water tanks.

:D :D




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:28pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
One of the brothers was a retired school principal from Dubbo?

"Indigenous" ancestry? Doesn't look it.

Thought the Port Arthur Massacre was a government hoax?

Was building a kind of "ark" style property to be a "survivalist"?

One weird family.  :D

Good riddance to them.

Very sad for those two young Police officers and the other victim of the murderous attack.  :(


He wasn't retired - he was a former school principle at Yorkeys Knob near Cairns & also at Walgett.

Walgett has a large Aboriginal community.

Not looking as if he has Aboriginal ancestry means nothing today.


He quit the education department a year or so ago?


He may have - but that is not "retired" from the work force in the general sense of the word.

He was only 46 years old. Still had 21 years until he reached the 67 years that is now the required retiring & pension eligibility age for someone that young.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:30pm

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Gareth and Stacey's home - which was off the grid, and which he appeared to be prepping for an imminent apocalypse, with [highlight]extensive solar panels[/highlight] and water tanks.







There's 8 panels there Frank ... extensive?

I've got 72 panels on my house & I'm not off the grid.

:D :D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:35pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Gareth and Stacey's home - which was off the grid, and which he appeared to be prepping for an imminent apocalypse, with [highlight]extensive solar panels and water tanks.







There's 8 panels there Frank ... extensive?

I've got 72 panels on my house & I'm not off the grid.

:D :D


That house looks derelict. I wish we could see the inside ... I reckon it's full of cans of baked beans and tuna. Oh and lots and lots of toilet paper.  ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


Do criminals with illegal guns register their firearms in a registry run by police?

When Canada abolished firearm registration they said it gave the police a false sense of security as police would do raids not expecting any guns because none were registered there while failing to realise criminals don't register their firearms which catches them by surprise.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:07pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
One of the brothers was a retired school principal from Dubbo?

"Indigenous" ancestry? Doesn't look it.

Thought the Port Arthur Massacre was a government hoax?

Was building a kind of "ark" style property to be a "survivalist"?

One weird family.  :D

Good riddance to them.

Very sad for those two young Police officers and the other victim of the murderous attack.  :(


He wasn't retired - he was a former school principle at Yorkeys Knob near Cairns & also at Walgett.

Walgett has a large Aboriginal community.

Not looking as if he has Aboriginal ancestry means nothing today.


He quit the education department a year or so ago?


Quit/retired? Or did he just walk out and went off grid… to be deemed as a reported missing person with others being concerned for his mental welfare?




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:08pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Gareth and Stacey's home - which was off the grid, and which he appeared to be prepping for an imminent apocalypse, with [highlight]extensive solar panels[/highlight] and water tanks.







There's 8 panels there Frank ... extensive?

I've got 72 panels on my house & I'm not off the grid.

:D :D


Yeah I have 20 panels and on water tank… and I’m not off grid either  ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms. But the police may not have known who was in that house … just a report of a missing man that used to be a prin.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. Keep up with me darls …The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:31pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. Keep up with me darls …The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


There would not be one home like that one in rural Queensland where there is not a gun.

Forget the off grid crap.  That is rubbish.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence.  It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:39pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence.  It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.


All good questions.

I'm also wondering if they were wearing bullet proof vests (I don't know their protocols).

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:39pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence.  It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.


Correct.  It was an ambush by all three...deliberately planned by all three and participated in by all three, LOLS.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:40pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence.  It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.


All good questions.

I'm also wondering if they were wearing bullet proof vests (I don't know their protocols).


Of course they weren't!  They did not know they were walking into a trap/ambush...ffs!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:44pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence.  It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.


All good questions.

I'm also wondering if they were wearing bullet proof vests (I don't know their protocols).


Of course they weren't!  They did not know they were walking into a trap/ambush...ffs!


Given the remote location and terrain I would have expected that wearing one would now be workplace safety best practice.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:53pm
Gawd...it is NOT remote and the terrain was flat as a pan cake!

They were looking for a missing person, an innocuous thing, but.....but.....but....there is a question as to why, given such an apparently innocuous thing...why FOUR coppers (likely TWO cop cars) needed to go there for such a banal routine thing.  They may have expected some growls, no cups of tea and scones, but obviously not of the kind they were met with.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:03pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms. But the police may not have known who was in that house … just a report of a missing man that used to be a prin.



Then why did 4 cops go there?
Did they have a hint of possible trouble?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:09pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Gawd...it is NOT remote and the terrain was flat as a pan cake!

They were looking for a missing person, an innocuous thing, but.....but.....but....there is a question as to why, given such an apparently innocuous thing...why FOUR coppers (likely TWO cop cars) needed to go there for such a banal routine thing.  They may have expected some growls, no cups of tea and scones, but obviously not of the kind they were met with.


That’s what I was wondering too… why 4 cops?
Then lucky there was… as 2 would’ve been dead and cops wouldn’t have known for ages…
At least one cop with bullet in leg was able to get to car to immediately alert authorities code… whatever
And to have an extraction team come save the female cop hiding in bush.

It’s a dark sad day the way all this took place.
Sad for those 2 young officers losing their lives.
I read the young female only just joined the force?
We have a cop friend that’s now a court prosecutor… he used to be our neighbour.
He saw how athletic and fit our daughter was and would say she should join the police force.
We did start the process… then I thought… it’s such a negative job.. always facing uncertainty or drop kicks etc.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:19pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Gawd...it is NOT remote and the terrain was flat as a pan cake!

They were looking for a missing person, an innocuous thing, but.....but.....but....there is a question as to why, given such an apparently innocuous thing...why FOUR coppers (likely TWO cop cars) needed to go there for such a banal routine thing.  They may have expected some growls, no cups of tea and scones, but obviously not of the kind they were met with.


1. Aussie that IS remote and rough terrain IMO! I'm from bloody Sydney remember. I live in a city of 6.6 million people 👈 for me THAT is normal.

2. The police knew about the extreme conspiracy theories (from social media) and in fact THAT is what kick started the concern for the welfare of the former school principal who allegedly went off grid (in a derelict house with bugger all solar panels).

3. Now add the fact that there were FOUR police officers involved in attending the premises. That suggests that they did expect action. Now if you reckon (you're a QLDer) that firearms are a normal thing in that area then the QLD police officers ought to have known that too. When you start aggregating these safety risks you end up with a lot of red flags. (Right now I'm starting to think there's another DUMBGold around who works in the QLD police force and who did not do his due diligence wrt ensuring the health and safety of his staff out in the field).

Bottom line? These 4 police officers should have been sent forward ready for ANY/EVERY contingency. That means they should have been wearing a bullet proof vest.

Edit : And you want to know another reason why I'm sticking to my bottom line? 2 of the 4 police officers were young rookies!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:23pm
Lisa Jones, you are expert at dressing up trivia as though it is rocket science.

And.....all four cops were rookies of about two years + - experience.

Just like with new school teachers, here in Qld, young coppers are sent to rural communities where things are normally pretty laid back.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:32pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:23pm:
Lisa Jones, you are expert at dressing up trivia as though it is rocket science.

And.....all four cops were rookies of about two years + - experience.

Just like with new school teachers, here in Qld, young coppers are sent to rural communities where things are normally pretty laid back.


Aussie my point is this : Forget about generalities...the series of red flags which should have been picked up in THIS scenario is what we're discussing. And that's what really matters. You can't generalise. One other thing : the crime rates of MANY rural areas out that way are high. I've checked.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:37pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:23pm:
Lisa Jones, you are expert at dressing up trivia as though it is rocket science.

And.....all four cops were rookies of about two years + - experience.

Just like with new school teachers, here in Qld, young coppers are sent to rural communities where things are normally pretty laid back.


Aussie my point is this : Forget about generalities...the series of red flags which should have been picked up in THIS scenario is what we're discussing. And that's what really matters. You can't generalise. One other thing : the crime rates of MANY rural areas out that way are high. I've checked.


So...tell me where this shooting took place on the map in page 5 of this link.

Link.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:42pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:37pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:23pm:
Lisa Jones, you are expert at dressing up trivia as though it is rocket science.

And.....all four cops were rookies of about two years + - experience.

Just like with new school teachers, here in Qld, young coppers are sent to rural communities where things are normally pretty laid back.


Aussie my point is this : Forget about generalities...the series of red flags which should have been picked up in THIS scenario is what we're discussing. And that's what really matters. You can't generalise. One other thing : the crime rates of MANY rural areas out that way are high. I've checked.


So...tell me where this shooting took place on the map in page 5 of this link.

Link.


Aussie I'm not going to look up anything in that link. Do you want to know why?

2 reasons.

1. I need to grab the dinner out of the oven. And I need to set the table.

2. The data and map in your link is 23 freaking years OLD?? 😐


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by tickleandrose on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.


For a start, I think most of the farmers in QLD are armed. 

They are also looking for one of the brothers who basically lost contact / disappeared apparently out of character.  So naturally, the police would suspect perhaps some foul play. 


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by tickleandrose on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:50pm
Hey, have you guys seen the mass crazies commenting on Skynews Australia channel about this?  50% of comments stating that the QLD police deserve this! 

Australia is doomed! 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:59pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:37pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:23pm:
Lisa Jones, you are expert at dressing up trivia as though it is rocket science.

And.....all four cops were rookies of about two years + - experience.

Just like with new school teachers, here in Qld, young coppers are sent to rural communities where things are normally pretty laid back.


Aussie my point is this : Forget about generalities...the series of red flags which should have been picked up in THIS scenario is what we're discussing. And that's what really matters. You can't generalise. One other thing : the crime rates of MANY rural areas out that way are high. I've checked.


So...tell me where this shooting took place on the map in page 5 of this link.

Link.


Aussie I'm not going to look up anything in that link. Do you want to know why?

2 reasons.

1. I need to grab the dinner out of the oven. And I need to set the table.

2. The data and map in your link is 23 freaking years OLD?? 😐


Nothing would have changed since then.  This is Qld...not Chicago.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:21pm

They are ALL here and then some.





Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:23pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Boris deserves no such thing.  He is a well-documented racist piece of poo and I think it perfectly valid to criticise him for it.

Was I too quick in this case to reply to him without first fact-checking, sure, but after posting I checked and realised my mistake and edited the post in all of 30 seconds. 

But honestly, given how he accuses every Indigenous Australian as being a being murdering child rapists to cast them as subhumans and unworthy of anything other than sending the army in to kill them all in the streets (with yourself being slightly better and wanting only 90% of them killed by the army) it's usually a safe bet that if he's commenting on the subject of Indigenous Australians in untrue, hyper exaggerated or generalised upon the entire community to push his prejudiced agenda.

In this case, he was actually correct, hence the edit.

I'm just waiting for his next post trying to manufacture a correlation where none exists, but it's only a matter of time.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:26pm
Me - I just want to know WTF this was all about.

Any more news?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.



2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior.  Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing?  That's your question(s).

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:32pm
"The three family members, dressed in camouflage and heavily armed, opened fire"

Been waiting for this one....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:52pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.



2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior.  Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing?  That's your question(s).



I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:58pm
Anyway - apparently the bull goose loonie was a conspiracy nutter -

.  Port Arthur was a conspiracy
.  Princess Di was a blood sacrifice
.  9/11 was a blood sacrifice
.  Qld special ops cops were a hit squad
.  Rail lines ended at 're-education camps'

and so forth....

Question is - why did the other two go along with this to the extent of taking up arms and killing police attending the house?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.



2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior.  Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing?  That's your question(s).



I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.


Could be something more 'back home' in Dubbo...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:01pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Gawd...it is NOT remote and the terrain was flat as a pan cake!

They were looking for a missing person, an innocuous thing, but.....but.....but....there is a question as to why, given such an apparently innocuous thing...why FOUR coppers (likely TWO cop cars) needed to go there for such a banal routine thing.  They may have expected some growls, no cups of tea and scones, but obviously not of the kind they were met with.


That’s what I was wondering too… why 4 cops?
Then lucky there was… as 2 would’ve been dead and cops wouldn’t have known for ages…
At least one cop with bullet in leg was able to get to car to immediately alert authorities code… whatever
And to have an extraction team come save the female cop hiding in bush.

It’s a dark sad day the way all this took place.
Sad for those 2 young officers losing their lives.
I read the young female only just joined the force?
We have a cop friend that’s now a court prosecutor… he used to be our neighbour.
He saw how athletic and fit our daughter was and would say she should join the police force.
We did start the process… then I thought… it’s such a negative job.. always facing uncertainty or drop kicks etc.


yeah it would be a tough gig.

you become like the people you spend most of your time with , as a general rule.

people absorb the surrounding emotional state like a sponge.

when you are surrounded by haters and low lifes and liars and thieves and violent thugs, that has to change your personality, unless you are some sort of super human.

most cops i know only hang out with other cops.

i find a lot of them become bitter and resentful and depressed, often turning to alcohol.

if i had a friend in the force (and my daughter was going to apply) i would advice they study stoicism and eastern philosophy so they can turn the choas of the job into the fuel they use to improve rather then resist it and become consumed by it.

meditation, lots of martial arts, lots of mind training, lots of mentoring.

i would say 95 % of people are not cut out to be cops.

and those who think they are are most likely DEFINITELY not cut out to be cops

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Gawd...it is NOT remote and the terrain was flat as a pan cake!

They were looking for a missing person, an innocuous thing, but.....but.....but....there is a question as to why, given such an apparently innocuous thing...why FOUR coppers (likely TWO cop cars) needed to go there for such a banal routine thing.  They may have expected some growls, no cups of tea and scones, but obviously not of the kind they were met with.


That’s what I was wondering too… why 4 cops?
Then lucky there was… as 2 would’ve been dead and cops wouldn’t have known for ages…
At least one cop with bullet in leg was able to get to car to immediately alert authorities code… whatever
And to have an extraction team come save the female cop hiding in bush.

It’s a dark sad day the way all this took place.
Sad for those 2 young officers losing their lives.
I read the young female only just joined the force?
We have a cop friend that’s now a court prosecutor… he used to be our neighbour.
He saw how athletic and fit our daughter was and would say she should join the police force.
We did start the process… then I thought… it’s such a negative job.. always facing uncertainty or drop kicks etc.


yeah it would be a tough gig.

you become like the people you spend most of your time with , as a general rule.

people absorb the surrounding emotional state like a sponge.

when you are surrounded by haters and low lifes and liars and thieves and violent thugs, that has to change your personality, unless you are some sort of super human.

most cops i know only hang out with other cops.

i find a lot of them become bitter and resentful and depressed, often turning to alcohol.

if i had a friend in the force (and my daughter was going to apply) i would advice they study stoicism and eastern philosophy so they can turn the choas of the job into the fuel they use to improve rather then resist it and become consumed by it.

meditation, lots of martial arts, lots of mind training, lots of mentoring.

i would say 95 % of people are not cut out to be cops.

and those who think they are are most likely DEFINITELY not cut out to be cops


Indeed. Social workers with guns.  And the crims they are policing are the 'victims' of the society that they are supposed to be protecting.

Navigate that as a 20-something idealist, community-minded young person.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:29pm
i would think the stress a soldier faces would be extreme but probably short lived.

most guys in the australian military may never have even been in an environment where they were surrounded by haters.

cops live in that soup 40 hours a week for decades. constantly surrounded and dealing with haters

i seriously cannot understand how they do it.

like the military, maybe we should automate a bit.

send a drone out to do the check on this place ,

my missus tells me they are about to start sending pathology samples from our country hospital to the lab via drone

cant see why drones cant do more police work


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:29pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.



2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior.  Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing?  That's your question(s).



I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.


Could be something more 'back home' in Dubbo...



What does that mean?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:40pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
One of the brothers was a retired school principal from Dubbo?

"Indigenous" ancestry? Doesn't look it.

Thought the Port Arthur Massacre was a government hoax?

Was building a kind of "ark" style property to be a "survivalist"?

One weird family.  :D

Good riddance to them.

Very sad for those two young Police officers and the other victim of the murderous attack.  :(


He wasn't retired - he was a former school principle at Yorkeys Knob near Cairns & also at Walgett.

Walgett has a large Aboriginal community.

Not looking as if he has Aboriginal ancestry means nothing today.


He quit the education department a year or so ago?


Quit/retired? Or did he just walk out and went off grid… to be deemed as a reported missing person with others being concerned for his mental welfare?



Yeah he quit/ resigned..... that's not retiring....

which means permanently ceasing work.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by freediver on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:44pm

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:52am:

freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:40am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:47am:
Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????


What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?


You don't think we should find out why these things happen? We should just pass it off as some unfathomable mystery?


Oh this will be good.

Tell me Fleadriver, how does one's demographic provide us with their intent?


Is Donald Trump really a demographic?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:51pm
Nearly 100 per cent of students at Walgett Community College, the senior school to Walgett Community College Primary School, are Indigenous and the school has well documented problems with student violence.

Ms Mitchell said Mr Train had provided “anecdotal information” about surveys being completed with one-on-one assistance from support teachers at the primary school.

“Some students, including those with either lower literacy levels or who present with English as an Additional Language or Dialect (EALD), may need further explanations to better understand some Tell Them From Me questions,” she said.

Mr Latham also asked whether parents had requested the creation of a “suspension room at the school so that ‘they don’t have their kids at home’”.
...

One Nation NSW leader Mark Latham said Mr Train left Walgett primary school after suffering a heart attack and said the slain principal’s experience with the education department had left him bitter and bruised.

“He was a passionate school reformer who had to leave for a health reason but was determined for his work [at Walgett Community College Primary School] to go on and was disappointed when it didn’t,” said Mr Latham.

Mr Latham disputed reports that the emails Mr Train sent to the education department indicated a decline in the former principal’s mental health.

“He contacted me as a passionate and concerned former principal whose sole motivation was the best interest of Indigenous kids and he had documentation that supported his complaint,” he said.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/police-shooting-slain-nsw-teacher-nathaniel-train-made-complaints-about-college/news-story/6b5e3c368120b17e8531a5c0bfecf9d7

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:53pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


She also worked at a school.... in Tara I think.

Education QLD said both Nathaniel & Stacey Trian were former employees.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:55pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence.  It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.


All good questions.

I'm also wondering if they were wearing bullet proof vests (I don't know their protocols).


Why would they be wearing bullet proof vests?

As Sophia has said they were there to investigate a missing person ..... not expecting a hail of bullets & a fire fight.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:42am:
And that's only a sample of the utter crap this girlie posts here.      >:(


Your efforts to admonish Mothra are admirable.  How about evening it up a bit?  Boris, Graps, Soren, Gnads all need criticism too, you realise?  They are just as guilty as Mothra of, "posting utter crap," all the time.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


But not you ey PhukKnuckle?


Ignore the hypocritical multi cyber junkie fwit please ESPECIALLY when he barges in under that id to justify the trolling and derailing caused by his multi cyber junkie buddies ☹️


Larry’s post here is just the outpurings of a brain damaged by drugs and too much time on the computer. Do we really need such in OzPol?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Train-shared-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-two-officers-shot-dead.html



Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research.     :'(


Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺



Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?


It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.


The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.


That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.


That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.


Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence.  It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.


All good questions.

I'm also wondering if they were wearing bullet proof vests (I don't know their protocols).


Of course they weren't!  They did not know they were walking into a trap/ambush...ffs!


Given the remote location and terrain I would have expected that wearing one would now be workplace safety best practice.


;D Come off the grass.

Remote? hardly

terrain .... it's on the Darling Downs ... the clue is in Downs.

It's close to Chinchilla, Tara, Condamine & Miles townships.

It's in the middle of a massive gas field where there would be employees traveling all over the place.

There are massive Gas Company accommodation camps & 2 large cattle feedlots & the towns mentioned all within a 35klm radius of where they lived.

Old mate neighbour who was gunned down wasn't far away seeing the fire & hearing the gun shots.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:17pm


Queensland, you say?   :-/

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:19pm

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.


For a start, I think most of the farmers in QLD are armed. 

They are also looking for one of the brothers who basically lost contact / disappeared apparently out of character.  So naturally, the police would suspect perhaps some foul play. 


Incorrect .. most have firearms... that does not mean they are armed.....

you would find that farmers all over the country own fire arms.

The murderers in question were actually armed & intended to kill Police.

You shouldn't confuse the two.

I have a weapons license & own an old .22 cal rifle.

It's locked away in the shed in a gun safe.

I am not armed. ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.



2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior.  Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing?  That's your question(s).



I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.


Could be something more 'back home' in Dubbo...



What does that mean?


That's where Nathaniel Train lived, it where he was reported missing from. ... & I'd say his brother lived there at one time.

Don't you read the articles/links you post?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:26pm

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Nearly 100 per cent of students at Walgett Community College, the senior school to Walgett Community College Primary School, are Indigenous and the school has well documented problems with student violence.

Ms Mitchell said Mr Train had provided “anecdotal information” about surveys being completed with one-on-one assistance from support teachers at the primary school.

“Some students, including those with either lower literacy levels or who present with English as an Additional Language or Dialect (EALD), may need further explanations to better understand some Tell Them From Me questions,” she said.

Mr Latham also asked whether parents had requested the creation of a “suspension room at the school so that ‘they don’t have their kids at home’”.
...

One Nation NSW leader Mark Latham said Mr Train left Walgett primary school after suffering a heart attack and said the slain principal’s experience with the education department had left him bitter and bruised.

“He was a passionate school reformer who had to leave for a health reason but was determined for his work [at Walgett Community College Primary School] to go on and was disappointed when it didn’t,” said Mr Latham.

Mr Latham disputed reports that the emails Mr Train sent to the education department indicated a decline in the former principal’s mental health.

“He contacted me as a passionate and concerned former principal whose sole motivation was the best interest of Indigenous kids and he had documentation that supported his complaint,” he said.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/police-shooting-slain-nsw-teacher-nathaniel-train-made-complaints-about-college/news-story/6b5e3c368120b17e8531a5c0bfecf9d7


English would not be a 2nd language in Dubbo.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.



2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior.  Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing?  That's your question(s).



I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.


Could be something more 'back home' in Dubbo...



What does that mean?


Maybe there is something back there he didn't want to come back to.

Why on earth would he and his bro etc start shooting out of the blue?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:17pm:
Queensland, you say?   :-/


Well - to throw another hat in the ring - that part of Queenslund - and Walgett - is part of what is known as the Deep North - not a very nice place for Aborigines in many ways.

Who knows?

Their father looks very white, so it must be their mother's side... no idea if they ever 'lived the life' etc... maybe their ethnic mix had nothing to do with it, so WTF.. all THREE of them went the rat at the same time.......

And BTW, Brian - you have no credibility in commenting on what other people post when you fill up strand after strand with your yawning and tsk tsk-ing. So stick it in ya!!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:46pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:17pm:
Queensland, you say?   :-/


Well - to throw another hat in the ring - that part of Queenslund - and Walgett - is part of what is known as the Deep North - not a very nice place for Aborigines in many ways.

Who knows?

Their father looks very white, so it must be their mother's side... no idea if they ever 'lived the life' etc... maybe their ethnic mix had nothing to do with it, so WTF.. all THREE of them went the rat at the same time.......

And BTW, Brian - you have no credibility in commenting on what other people post when you fill up strand after strand with your yawning and tsk tsk-ing. So stick it in ya!!



Really, Graps?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It is amazing how childish some here get when faced with some mild criticism, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:00pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...


Boris deserves no such thing.  He is a well-documented racist piece of poo and I think it perfectly valid to criticise him for it.

Was I too quick in this case to reply to him without first fact-checking, sure, but after posting I checked and realised my mistake and edited the post in all of 30 seconds. 

But honestly, given how he accuses every Indigenous Australian as being a being murdering child rapists to cast them as subhumans and unworthy of anything other than sending the army in to kill them all in the streets (with yourself being slightly better and wanting only 90% of them killed by the army) it's usually a safe bet that if he's commenting on the subject of Indigenous Australians in untrue, hyper exaggerated or generalised upon the entire community to push his prejudiced agenda.

In this case, he was actually correct, hence the edit.

I'm just waiting for his next post trying to manufacture a correlation where none exists, but it's only a matter of time.



Child abuse and mistreatment in Aboriginal communities are endemic and worsening by the year. Here’s a few snapshots:

Rates of hospitalisation for neglect and abandonment among indigenous children have been put at thirty to eighty times higher than for the non-indigenous population.


More than 12,000 Aboriginal children have been removed and are in care, making up a third of all Australian children in care.


One in nineteen Aboriginal children is in care, ten times the non-indigenous rate.


In Queensland, one in every 2.2 Aboriginal children is known to Child Safety, and this is expected to increase to every second child being known to Child Safety this fiscal year. In 2007–08, only one in 4.6 Aboriginal children was known to Child Safety.


Yet under-reporting of the sexual abuse of Aboriginal children may be nearly 90 per cent.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:46pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:17pm:
Queensland, you say?   :-/


Well - to throw another hat in the ring - that part of Queenslund - and Walgett - is part of what is known as the Deep North - not a very nice place for Aborigines in many ways.

Who knows?

Their father looks very white, so it must be their mother's side... no idea if they ever 'lived the life' etc... maybe their ethnic mix had nothing to do with it, so WTF.. all THREE of them went the rat at the same time.......

And BTW, Brian - you have no credibility in commenting on what other people post when you fill up strand after strand with your yawning and tsk tsk-ing. So stick it in ya!!



Really, Graps?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It is amazing how childish some here get when faced with some mild criticism, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)



Indeed... Tsk, tsk .....   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:51pm
Pity they didn't have a prisoner to interrogate.....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:56pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:51pm:
Pity they didn't have a prisoner to interrogate.....



And they cheated the hangman out of his fee:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 13th, 2022 at 9:59pm


Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:05pm

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Nearly 100 per cent of students at Walgett Community College, the senior school to Walgett Community College Primary School, are Indigenous and the school has well documented problems with student violence.

Ms Mitchell said Mr Train had provided “anecdotal information” about surveys being completed with one-on-one assistance from support teachers at the primary school.

“Some students, including those with either lower literacy levels or who present with English as an Additional Language or Dialect (EALD), may need further explanations to better understand some Tell Them From Me questions,” she said.

Mr Latham also asked whether parents had requested the creation of a “suspension room at the school so that ‘they don’t have their kids at home’”.
...

One Nation NSW leader Mark Latham said Mr Train left Walgett primary school after suffering a heart attack and said the slain principal’s experience with the education department had left him bitter and bruised.

“He was a passionate school reformer who had to leave for a health reason but was determined for his work [at Walgett Community College Primary School] to go on and was disappointed when it didn’t,” said Mr Latham.

Mr Latham disputed reports that the emails Mr Train sent to the education department indicated a decline in the former principal’s mental health.

“He contacted me as a passionate and concerned former principal whose sole motivation was the best interest of Indigenous kids and he had documentation that supported his complaint,” he said.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/police-shooting-slain-nsw-teacher-nathaniel-train-made-complaints-about-college/news-story/6b5e3c368120b17e8531a5c0bfecf9d7


Well well well....the sub plot thickens.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:16pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:05pm:
Well well well....the sub plot thickens.



Hopefully Albo will announce a federal independent inquiry tomorrow -
we can't trust the QLD police to do it.
The whole thing makes no sense at all.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:22pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:05pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Nearly 100 per cent of students at Walgett Community College, the senior school to Walgett Community College Primary School, are Indigenous and the school has well documented problems with student violence.

Ms Mitchell said Mr Train had provided “anecdotal information” about surveys being completed with one-on-one assistance from support teachers at the primary school.

“Some students, including those with either lower literacy levels or who present with English as an Additional Language or Dialect (EALD), may need further explanations to better understand some Tell Them From Me questions,” she said.

Mr Latham also asked whether parents had requested the creation of a “suspension room at the school so that ‘they don’t have their kids at home’”.
...

One Nation NSW leader Mark Latham said Mr Train left Walgett primary school after suffering a heart attack and said the slain principal’s experience with the education department had left him bitter and bruised.

“He was a passionate school reformer who had to leave for a health reason but was determined for his work [at Walgett Community College Primary School] to go on and was disappointed when it didn’t,” said Mr Latham.

Mr Latham disputed reports that the emails Mr Train sent to the education department indicated a decline in the former principal’s mental health.

“He contacted me as a passionate and concerned former principal whose sole motivation was the best interest of Indigenous kids and he had documentation that supported his complaint,” he said.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/police-shooting-slain-nsw-teacher-nathaniel-train-made-complaints-about-college/news-story/6b5e3c368120b17e8531a5c0bfecf9d7


Well well well....the sub plot thickens.


I heard his father say on the news he hasn't seen his son for 25 years.

I saw a video which had what sounded like a semi auto centrefire rifle. The neighbors reported hearing semi auto gunfire why has this suddenly dropped out of the news.

It's not the first time illegal firearms were used to kill police in Qld.

Quote:
The wife of a Queensland police officer killed in the line of duty has been asked to leave a court room by her husband’s colleagues.

Senior Constable Brett Forte, 42, died on May 29, 2017 after his vehicle was peppered with 27 bullets from an automatic weapon in the Lockyer Valley, west of Brisbane.

The next day Ricky Maddison, 40, was shot dead by police as they tried to apprehend him for the murd
https://7news.com.au/news/queensland-police/police-try-to-get-slain-cops-wife-thrown-out-of-court-claiming-she-is-withholding-evidence-c-2588937


I have heard they had quite a few firearms and a large stockpile of ammo. The police would know if it was legally owned every firearm owner is in the Crimtrac database despite the fact they're not criminals.

Was it an ambush or were they worried they were getting busted for illegal firearms and decided to shoot it out?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:26pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:05pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Nearly 100 per cent of students at Walgett Community College, the senior school to Walgett Community College Primary School, are Indigenous and the school has well documented problems with student violence.

Ms Mitchell said Mr Train had provided “anecdotal information” about surveys being completed with one-on-one assistance from support teachers at the primary school.

“Some students, including those with either lower literacy levels or who present with English as an Additional Language or Dialect (EALD), may need further explanations to better understand some Tell Them From Me questions,” she said.

Mr Latham also asked whether parents had requested the creation of a “suspension room at the school so that ‘they don’t have their kids at home’”.
...

One Nation NSW leader Mark Latham said Mr Train left Walgett primary school after suffering a heart attack and said the slain principal’s experience with the education department had left him bitter and bruised.

“He was a passionate school reformer who had to leave for a health reason but was determined for his work [at Walgett Community College Primary School] to go on and was disappointed when it didn’t,” said Mr Latham.

Mr Latham disputed reports that the emails Mr Train sent to the education department indicated a decline in the former principal’s mental health.

“He contacted me as a passionate and concerned former principal whose sole motivation was the best interest of Indigenous kids and he had documentation that supported his complaint,” he said.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/police-shooting-slain-nsw-teacher-nathaniel-train-made-complaints-about-college/news-story/6b5e3c368120b17e8531a5c0bfecf9d7


Well well well....the sub plot thickens.


It's The Civil War then?  To free the Indigenous students and dis-unite the Union..

What are your thoughts, Lisa?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:34pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:20pm:
Betta nuke em,
just to be sure ;)


Are you going to do that from orbit?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


Maybe it has been a long time since you were at school. 26 years have passed since I was last at high school. You could imagine the stress that teachers go through. I could imagine that students might well have witnessed a dark side of these people in the previous years.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:05pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


Maybe it has been a long time since you were at school. 26 years have passed since I was last at high school. You could imagine the stress that teachers go through. I could imagine that students might well have witnessed a dark side of these people in the previous years.



A female teacher turns into a murdering psycho?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


The defund the police idiocy in the US comes from leftists.

The brother hated police.

The leftists also push the Aboriginal victimhood mentality.

Schools are full of leftist teachers.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


Maybe it has been a long time since you were at school. 26 years have passed since I was last at high school. You could imagine the stress that teachers go through. I could imagine that students might well have witnessed a dark side of these people in the previous years.



A female teacher turns into a murdering psycho?


Been wondering about that - and asked before - one might go the rat - but all three?  What for?  What could possibly be in their minds?

Like any such they might win the first skirmish but they had to know they could never win the 'war'... so WTF were they thinking?

I'm a bit confused myself over all this... what were they hiding?

Let's wait on the full reports.... any body cams etc?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:01am

So many questions:

Who made the missing persons report and why?
How did the cops know that he was staying with his brother?
Why didn't they just phone him up?
Did he have a phone?
Did he have email?
What was in the "risk assessment"  that the police said they made?
Why did they send 4 cops around there?
Why did they get it so wrong?
Did any of the three psycho killers there have a firearms license?
Did the cops know what firearms they had?
Had they bought any ammunition or firearms recently?
Had any threats been made on social media by them?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:02am
This news report says no firearms registered to that address at 3 min 56 seconds which means the guns were illegally owned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRudYmg3cs&t=237s

Earlier reports i heard said a large number of firearms and ammo were there.

Maybe they were worried they were getting busted for illegal guns which could explain this.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:35am
Hmmm .... 'sovereign' citizens.... hoarding illegal firearms........

I did tell yez about the underground firearms traffic and the intercepts that happen  .... seems to me as a casual onlooker that this lot were hoarding firearms against The Day when they would rise up and join the glorious revolution to free the oppressed etc .... you all know who by now ..... and they thought the two cops walking up the driveway were the start of an assault on their stronghold.

Mad as hatters..... may they rot in hell and burn daily .... but they sure won't make things better between their group and the rest of society... or improve the lot for anyone including disadvantaged kids in schools .....

What a pity they weren't taken alive to answer questions......

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:34am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


The defund the police idiocy in the US comes from leftists.

The brother hated police.

The leftists also push the Aboriginal victimhood mentality.

Schools are full of leftist teachers.



exactly

this is a case of left wing ideologically driven terrorism.
whilst certain loonies on here worry about right wing terrorism, it is the left who tend to lose their minds when they think about their failed ideology non stop.

most police, most military...conservative.

most school teachers...lefties.

we need to refocus our attention on left wing terrorists.

the blue haired lesbians lying on train tracks to stop our noble coal trains are tomorrows assassins.

when you are too "stuck in your head" when you are too "intellectual" you go insane.

if you live in the bush, ride a horse and grow veges.

DONT listen to the ABC and any green senators

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:38am
here       is the man to fix this

the qld copper turned heroic leader                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
duttt.jpg (6 KB | 13 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:11am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 8:46pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:17pm:
Queensland, you say?   :-/


Well - to throw another hat in the ring - that part of Queenslund - and Walgett - is part of what is known as the Deep North - not a very nice place for Aborigines in many ways.

Who knows?

Their father looks very white, so it must be their mother's side... no idea if they ever 'lived the life' etc... maybe their ethnic mix had nothing to do with it, so WTF.. all THREE of them went the rat at the same time.......

And BTW, Brian - you have no credibility in commenting on what other people post when you fill up strand after strand with your yawning and tsk tsk-ing. So stick it in ya!!



Really, Graps?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It is amazing how childish some here get when faced with some mild criticism, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)



What's childish is your yawning emojie & your tsk tsking you wanker.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:13am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 7:17pm:
Queensland, you say?   :-/


Well - to throw another hat in the ring - that part of Queenslund - and Walgett - is part of what is known as the Deep North - not a very nice place for Aborigines in many ways.

Who knows?

Their father looks very white, so it must be their mother's side... no idea if they ever 'lived the life' etc... maybe their ethnic mix had nothing to do with it, so WTF.. all THREE of them went the rat at the same time.......

And BTW, Brian - you have no credibility in commenting on what other people post when you fill up strand after strand with your yawning and tsk tsk-ing. So stick it in ya!!


Yes very white, a former church Minister who's a Theologian & lives in Toowoomba. No mention of Mum.
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:50am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:02am:
This news report says no firearms registered to that address at 3 min 56 seconds which means the guns were illegally owned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRudYmg3cs&t=237s

Earlier reports i heard said a large number of firearms and ammo were there.

Maybe they were worried they were getting busted for illegal guns which could explain this.



They had semi-automatic centre fire rifles .... of course they are illegal. You are not allowed to own them.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:58am
We are not being told the full story here.
Three people don't go rogue like that.
They were waiting for these cops to arrive, and to walk out and plug em why they lay on the ground injured.... Wow.


As for semi auto, three people discharging single shot magged rifles consecutivly would sound like semi auto gunfire to most. Probably why the media stopped claiming semi auto...maybe. Not saying that's the case though.


Plenty of pics of the school teacher, but what about the other two?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:06am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:58am:
We are not being told the full story here.
Three people don't go rogue like that.
They were waiting for these cops to arrive, and to walk out and plug em why they lay on the ground injured.... Wow.


As for semi auto, three people discharging single shot magged rifles consecutivly would sound like semi auto gunfire to most. Probably why the media stopped claiming semi auto...maybe. Not saying that's the case though.


Plenty of pics of the school teacher, but what about the other two?


Yes I wondered the same.

The brother has had form/run ins with the Police before.

His wife was also a teacher that resigned in 2021 - she taught in a college not far away at Tara.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.

And y'all think what is said on hell holes like this doesn't have any real work consequences...

I'd be wary about running places like this with what is coming next, especially when the moderation style seems to condone what people share here.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:11am

So many questions:

Who made the missing persons report and why?
How did the cops know that he was staying with his brother?
Why didn't they just phone him up?
Did he have a phone?
Did he have email?
What was in the "risk assessment"  that the police said they made?
Why did they send 4 cops around there?
Why did they get it so wrong?
Did any of the three psycho killers there have a firearms license?
Did the cops know what firearms they had?
Had they bought any ammunition or firearms recently?
Had any threats been made on social media by them?
Can the cops trace down those guns and ammo to see where they came from?
Are there any other groups of psychos out there with guns?
Is there an illegal arms dealer supplying groups of them?
Do the friends of the 3 psychos also need to be visited?

The story is not over.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:12am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:38am:
here       is the man to fix this

the qld copper turned heroic leader                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               


You just love the worst people.

Like, every single time.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:24am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am:
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.

And y'all think what is said on hell holes like this doesn't have any real work consequences...

I'd be wary about running places like this with what is coming next, especially when the moderation style seems to condone what people share here.



Grow up moron.
You may as well blame grand theft auto.

Here, let me get the door for you.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:27am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:11am:
So many questions:

Who made the missing persons report and why?
How did the cops know that he was staying with his brother?
Why didn't they just phone him up?
Did he have a phone?
Did he have email?
What was in the "risk assessment"  that the police said they made?
Why did they send 4 cops around there?
Why did they get it so wrong?
Did any of the three psycho killers there have a firearms license?
Did the cops know what firearms they had?
Had they bought any ammunition or firearms recently?
Had any threats been made on social media by them?
Can the cops trace down those guns and ammo to see where they came from?
Are there any other groups of psychos out there with guns?
Is there an illegal arms dealer supplying groups of them?
Do the friends of the 3 psychos also need to be visited?

The story is not over.




I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Introduce all the gun laws you want.
If a weapon exists, it can be obtained.

A good friend of mine is a retired chief super, and even he agrees with me.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:32am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am:
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.


Yes, that's right.

They were crazy conspiracy theorists in the vein of MAGA lunatics.

Getting their "news" from BitChute, InfoWars, banned.video, etc.

Remind you of anyone?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:39am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am:
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.


Yes, that's right.

They were crazy conspiracy theorists in the vein of MAGA lunatics.

Getting their "news" from BitChute, InfoWars, banned.video, etc.

Remind you of anyone?



Round up all the psychos out there with guns and
hang em and hang em high.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born  Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:11am:
So many questions:

Who made the missing persons report and why?
How did the cops know that he was staying with his brother?
Why didn't they just phone him up?
Did he have a phone?
Did he have email?
What was in the "risk assessment"  that the police said they made?
Why did they send 4 cops around there?
Why did they get it so wrong?
Did any of the three psycho killers there have a firearms license?
Did the cops know what firearms they had?
Had they bought any ammunition or firearms recently?
Had any threats been made on social media by them?
Can the cops trace down those guns and ammo to see where they came from?
Are there any other groups of psychos out there with guns?
Is there an illegal arms dealer supplying groups of them?
Do the friends of the 3 psychos also need to be visited?

The story is not over.




I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Introduce all the gun laws you want.
If a weapon exists, it can be obtained.

A good friend of mine is a retired chief super, and even he agrees with me.



Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:41am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:12am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:38am:
here       is the man to fix this

the qld copper turned heroic leader                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               


You just love the worst people.

Like, every single time.


Couldn't you say that under your regular id?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:42am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am:
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.

And y'all think what is said on hell holes like this doesn't have any real work consequences...

I'd be wary about running places like this with what is coming next, especially when the moderation style seems to condone what people share here.



You bloody drama queen girlie skirt. ;D

What's been shared here that isn't in the mainstream media?

You advocating for more authoritarian lefty censorship?

Keep the masses in the dark like Xi & Putin?

Piss orf.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:45am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:41am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:12am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:38am:
here       is the man to fix this

the qld copper turned heroic leader                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               


You just love the worst people.

Like, every single time.


Couldn't you say that under your regular id?


That sort of delusion you employ on the regular should have you on some watch lists too.

The compulsive lying to big up yourself and convince you that you're more than simply a lonely housewife is also hilarious...

Not that there's anything wrong with that.  You should be proud of your standing and not need to make up claims of being a maths profressor, law student or whatever it was, I honestly don't care enough about you to keep track.

Keep the crazy going, you're in good company.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:46am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born  Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.

There are bad apples in every barrel .... but on the whole yes I give them the benefit of the doubt..

before any strangers .... or people here ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:47am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:41am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:12am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:38am:
here       is the man to fix this

the qld copper turned heroic leader                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               


You just love the worst people.

Like, every single time.


Couldn't you say that under your regular id?


That sort of delusion you employ on the regular should have you on some watch lists too.

The compulsive lying to big up yourself and convince you that you're more than simply a lonely housewife is also hilarious...

Not that there's anything wrong with that.  You should be proud of your standing and not need to make up claims of being a maths profressor, law student or whatever it was, I honestly don't care enough about you to keep track.

Keep the crazy going, you're in good company.


Your incessant self projections and slip ups are enough to warn everyone of why you are nothing more than a cyber junkie multi troll.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:48am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:11am:
So many questions:

Who made the missing persons report and why?
How did the cops know that he was staying with his brother?
Why didn't they just phone him up?
Did he have a phone?
Did he have email?
What was in the "risk assessment"  that the police said they made?
Why did they send 4 cops around there?
Why did they get it so wrong?
Did any of the three psycho killers there have a firearms license?
Did the cops know what firearms they had?
Had they bought any ammunition or firearms recently?
Had any threats been made on social media by them?
Can the cops trace down those guns and ammo to see where they came from?
Are there any other groups of psychos out there with guns?
Is there an illegal arms dealer supplying groups of them?
Do the friends of the 3 psychos also need to be visited?

The story is not over.




I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Introduce all the gun laws you want.
If a weapon exists, it can be obtained.

A good friend of mine is a retired chief super, and even he agrees with me.



Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Are you that ignorant?

Criminals.... that's who

if you really want guns bad enough & have enough money ... they can be obtained on the black.

Always been the way - gun laws mean nothing to criminals.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:54am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born  Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.


There are bad apples in every barrel .... but on the whole yes I give them the benefit of the doubt..

before any strangers .... or people here ;D


Look to be fair...I've got a few cousins who married police officers. Their weddings were interesting. Everyone there was either a police officer or a detective lol. Or married to one.

They have a tough gig. They see a lot of terrible sh1t.

My main pain point is this (and you may have picked up on it by now): it's the level of training and preparedness for being sent out on the field that's wanting.

More experienced officers need to accompany these rookies.

It's not happening here in NSW. And it's clearly not happening in QLD 🥺


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:55am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:11am:
So many questions:

Who made the missing persons report and why?
How did the cops know that he was staying with his brother?
Why didn't they just phone him up?
Did he have a phone?
Did he have email?
What was in the "risk assessment"  that the police said they made?
Why did they send 4 cops around there?
Why did they get it so wrong?
Did any of the three psycho killers there have a firearms license?
Did the cops know what firearms they had?
Had they bought any ammunition or firearms recently?
Had any threats been made on social media by them?
Can the cops trace down those guns and ammo to see where they came from?
Are there any other groups of psychos out there with guns?
Is there an illegal arms dealer supplying groups of them?
Do the friends of the 3 psychos also need to be visited?

The story is not over.




I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Introduce all the gun laws you want.
If a weapon exists, it can be obtained.

A good friend of mine is a retired chief super, and even he agrees with me.



Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.


My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:57am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:11am:
So many questions:

Who made the missing persons report and why?
How did the cops know that he was staying with his brother?
Why didn't they just phone him up?
Did he have a phone?
Did he have email?
What was in the "risk assessment"  that the police said they made?
Why did they send 4 cops around there?
Why did they get it so wrong?
Did any of the three psycho killers there have a firearms license?
Did the cops know what firearms they had?
Had they bought any ammunition or firearms recently?
Had any threats been made on social media by them?
Can the cops trace down those guns and ammo to see where they came from?
Are there any other groups of psychos out there with guns?
Is there an illegal arms dealer supplying groups of them?
Do the friends of the 3 psychos also need to be visited?

The story is not over.




I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Introduce all the gun laws you want.
If a weapon exists, it can be obtained.

A good friend of mine is a retired chief super, and even he agrees with me.



Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Are you that ignorant?

Criminals.... that's who

if you really want guns bad enough & have enough money ... they can be obtained on the black.

Always been the way - gun laws mean nothing to criminals.




Yep.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:57am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:
Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.


My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.



We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:01am
So, the FOUR Coppers who were shot at are being hailed as heroes by other Coppers.

Huh.

These four coppers two each from adjoining stations come together after a phone call had been received that a missing person might be at the place where it all later unfolded.  That is how they were lured there.  As I said up there ^^^^, whoever made that call was also in on the planned ambush.  So, likely that the call came from one of the three ambushers.

How is it in any way heroic to be in a group of four armed people to go to a house after joking around about going there on a missing persons report?  They get there, they approach the house blissfully unaware of the trap they were walking into.  No heroes so far.

Gunfire begins and two are shot to the ground.  The other two......run away, leaving their fallen comrades....on the ground.

No heroes so far.

Whoever is inside the house comes out, goes to the two on the ground and shoots at them, kills them if they are not already dead.  No heroes so far.

Two coppers have fled into the bush.  A fire is lit.  A neighbour sees smoke and goes over to investigate a fire.  It is unknown if at that time he had heard gunfire.  He gets shot in the back by someone.....either one of the ambushers or one of the two cops who fled.

Female copper who fled communicate via mobile phone with family and the cavalry.  Unknown what the other fleeing copper was doing.

No heroes so far.

Cavalry arrives.

Next thing we known, the ambushers are shot dead and no others are injured any further.  Maybe something heroic from the cavalry, it is not known.  Hopefully none of the cavalry killed any one in cold blood, hot revenge.

I do wish there was much less of the pedestal bullshit about this stuff.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:04am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:54am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born  Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.


There are bad apples in every barrel .... but on the whole yes I give them the benefit of the doubt..

before any strangers .... or people here ;D


Look to be fair...I've got a few cousins who married police officers. Their weddings were interesting. Everyone there was either a police officer or a detective lol. Or married to one.

They have a tough gig. They see a lot of terrible sh1t.

My main pain point is this (and you may have picked up on it by now): it's the level of training and preparedness for being sent out on the field that's wanting.

More experienced officers need to accompany these rookies.

It's not happening here in NSW. And it's clearly not happening in QLD 🥺


That didn't help Senior Constable Brett Forte & his partner(who escaped)Senior Constable Catherine Neilsen in the Lockyer Valley when they were ambushed in 2017.

Both experienced officers.

You don't become experienced unless you do the jobs required.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:08am

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:01am:
So, the FOUR Coppers who were shot at are being hailed as heroes by other Coppers.

Huh.

These four coppers two each from adjoining stations come together after a phone call had been received that a missing person might be at the place where it all later unfolded.  That is how they were lured there.  As I said up there ^^^^, whoever made that call was also in on the planned ambush.  So, likely that the call came from one of the three ambushers.

How is it in any way heroic to be in a group of four armed people to go to a house after joking around about going there on a missing persons report?  They get there, they approach the house blissfully unaware of the trap they were walking into.  No heroes so far.

Gunfire begins and two are shot to the ground.  The other two......run away, leaving their fallen comrades....on the ground.

No heroes so far.

Whoever is inside the house comes out, goes to the two on the ground and shoots at them, kills them if they are not already dead.  No heroes so far.

Two coppers have fled into the bush.  A fire is lit.  A neighbour sees smoke and goes over to investigate a fire.  It is unknown if at that time he had heard gunfire.  He gets shot in the back by someone.....either one of the ambushers or one of the two cops who fled.

Female copper who fled communicate via mobile phone with family and the cavalry.  Unknown what the other fleeing copper was doing.

No heroes so far.

Cavalry arrives.

Next thing we known, the ambushers are shot dead and no others are injured any further.  Maybe something heroic from the cavalry, it is not known.  Hopefully none of the cavalry killed any one in cold blood, hot revenge.

I do wish there was much less of the pedestal bullshit about this stuff.


They should have sent you ey Aussie? ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:12am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:
Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.


My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.



We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.



Exactly.
There's a lot of inconsistencies in this story.
If they could keep it quiet, my guess is they would have, hence the little dribbles of info that just do not add up.

The weapons were either illigal semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons that would scare the crap out of Australians if it was published consistantly and possibly lower confidence in policing even further, or they were just your run of the mill bolt actions.


My guess is the later.
Whitnesses claimed "semi auto" sounding, but it could have been several single shots with magazines.
You can pull a bolt back pretty quickly, and if there are three weapons discharging all at once, emptying the mags, then it would sound like semi auto fire.
Also, if the stolen glocks were discharged then that would be semi auto fire.
There's 17 rounds in one clip. I don't believe the cops would be on the 10 round limit magazine's like the general pop.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Heartless Felon on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:14am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born  Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.


Thank God you were there! What might have happened without your selfless intervention is too terrible to contemplate. :-X

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:15am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


Maybe it has been a long time since you were at school. 26 years have passed since I was last at high school. You could imagine the stress that teachers go through. I could imagine that students might well have witnessed a dark side of these people in the previous years.



A female teacher turns into a murdering psycho?


Ice addicts would turn into murdering psychos.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:17am

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


Maybe it has been a long time since you were at school. 26 years have passed since I was last at high school. You could imagine the stress that teachers go through. I could imagine that students might well have witnessed a dark side of these people in the previous years.



A female teacher turns into a murdering psycho?


Ice addicts would turn into murdering psychos.



Hopefully drug intoxication questions will form part of the investigation.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:18am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:
Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.


My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.



We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.



Exactly.
There's a lot of inconsistencies in this story.
If they could keep it quiet, my guess is they would have, hence the little dribbles of info that just do not add up.

The weapons were either illigal semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons that would scare the crap out of Australians if it was published consistantly and possibly lower confidence in policing even further, or they were just your run of the mill bolt actions.


My guess is the later.
Whitnesses claimed "semi auto" sounding, but it could have been several single shots with magazines.
You can pull a bolt back pretty quickly, and if there are three weapons discharging all at once, emptying the mags, then it would sound like semi auto fire.
Also, if the stolen glocks were discharged then that would be semi auto fire.
There's 17 rounds in one clip. I don't believe the cops would be on the 10 round limit magazine's like the general pop.



This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 5:28am:
So - the police killed those responsible for the murders.
Now we'll never know why it all happened.   :-/


Investigators can piece together why it happened through the psychological profiles of the offenders. All the circumstances that lead up to the police attending that residence. Witness accounts. Investigation of bank and mobile phone records. I would be sure that this is not a one-off occasion for the police visiting the area. In fairly short time, you will hear most of the story about why it happened.



3 people turn into psychotic execution killers?

It doesn't make sense.
One of them was a headmaster of a school and another was a teacher.
What the hell was going on?


Maybe it has been a long time since you were at school. 26 years have passed since I was last at high school. You could imagine the stress that teachers go through. I could imagine that students might well have witnessed a dark side of these people in the previous years.



A female teacher turns into a murdering psycho?


Ice addicts would turn into murdering psychos.



The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:28am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:
Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.


My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.



We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.



Exactly.
There's a lot of inconsistencies in this story.
If they could keep it quiet, my guess is they would have, hence the little dribbles of info that just do not add up.

The weapons were either illigal semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons that would scare the crap out of Australians if it was published consistantly and possibly lower confidence in policing even further, or they were just your run of the mill bolt actions.


My guess is the later.
Whitnesses claimed "semi auto" sounding, but it could have been several single shots with magazines.
You can pull a bolt back pretty quickly, and if there are three weapons discharging all at once, emptying the mags, then it would sound like semi auto fire.
Also, if the stolen glocks were discharged then that would be semi auto fire.
There's 17 rounds in one clip. I don't believe the cops would be on the 10 round limit magazine's like the general pop.



This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.


It will probably go that way considering the missing persons is from interstate.
Reported missing 12 months ago, but keeps in touch with family.
That's not a missing person.

Also, that family he was contacting did not inform the cops.
That's kinda like nearly bordering on accessory to the fact, no?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:28am:
It will probably go that way considering the missing persons is from interstate.
Reported missing 12 months ago, but keeps in touch with family.
That's not a missing person.

Also, that family he was contacting did not inform the cops.
That's kinda like nearly bordering on accessory to the fact, no?



How could he be a missing person if he was staying with his family?

None of this makes sense.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:38am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


What I mean is that the offenders would likely be gunned down by the police, even if they were to peacefully surrender to the police. But that would be wrong of me to say that, as the police would be required to be professional in apprehending the suspects. The reality, though, maybe that the police might well have had the option of gunning down the suspects. All three suspects must have been armed and ready to shoot the police. I reserve judgement until the details are released about what happened in those final moments. I am actually on the side of the police on this incident. I cannot see how police could be in the wrong.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:44am
Mental illness together with Criminal activity

It is very real

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:45am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.



Yeah rodgy.
Just a teacher with an extra stripe.
The headmaster does not look like a typical psycho meth head.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:46am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:18am:
This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.


You have a real antagonism for the Qld police, have you not?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:49am

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:18am:
This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.


You have a real antagonism for the Qld police, have you not?


You don't need antagonism to make a logical comment.  Why should Qld Coppers investigate Qld coppers?  I agree with Bobby. This is far too serious and should be investigated by some authority having no kinship interest with Coppers.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:54am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.



Yeah rodgy.
Just a teacher with an extra stripe.
The headmaster does not look like a typical psycho meth head.


He doesn’t look like a meth head …. In that picture!
It’s an earlier photo whilst he was still okay and actively working before a heart attack?

How did he look recently? Anyone have a picture of him in most recent times?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Redmond Neck on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:54am
The thing I found a bit strange was why were 4 cops sent to chase up a missing persons report.

I would have thought one would have been enough!


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:59am

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:54am:
The thing I found a bit strange was why were 4 cops sent to chase up a missing persons report.

I would have thought one would have been enough!


Read above why I think the young rookies were sent… it was to be an innocent achievable locating of missing person whose health was a concern.
A extra brownie point in their police status of saying how one missing person located and resolved.

Why 4 of them?

I ask that too about 4 cops that pulled over one speedster on Melbourne Eastlink when a truck ran into all 4 officers and killed them.
Yes… why 4 ?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:01am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:54am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.



Yeah rodgy.
Just a teacher with an extra stripe.
The headmaster does not look like a typical psycho meth head.


He doesn’t look like a meth head …. In that picture!
It’s an earlier photo whilst he was still okay and actively working before a heart attack?

How did he look recently? Anyone have a picture of him in most recent times?



Yeah, that would help.

Why no pictures of the other two as well?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:01am

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.


Well who was it then? For 6 weeks? This was on tv last night with all their photos.
The young deceased man was so gorgeous holding puppies… with a sad farewell message from his mum.
Geez my heart is breaking.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:08am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:
I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?


Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:
I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?


Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.


If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:09am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:
Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.


My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.



We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.



Exactly.
There's a lot of inconsistencies in this story.
If they could keep it quiet, my guess is they would have, hence the little dribbles of info that just do not add up.

The weapons were either illigal semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons that would scare the crap out of Australians if it was published consistantly and possibly lower confidence in policing even further, or they were just your run of the mill bolt actions.


My guess is the later.
Whitnesses claimed "semi auto" sounding, but it could have been several single shots with magazines.
You can pull a bolt back pretty quickly, and if there are three weapons discharging all at once, emptying the mags, then it would sound like semi auto fire.
Also, if the stolen glocks were discharged then that would be semi auto fire.
There's 17 rounds in one clip. I don't believe the cops would be on the 10 round limit magazine's like the general pop.



This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.


Gawd you talk some shyte.

Is that why the NSW Police asked them to make the missing persons enquiry?

I think you should go & see your proctologist

I'm sure his investigation will confirm that you're full of shyte.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:11am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.


One brother & his sister in law were teachers ...

read your own links you idiot.

The only one not mentioned as to occupation was the husband of the female, Gareth Train - the known conspiracy theorist.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:12am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:04am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:54am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born  Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.


There are bad apples in every barrel .... but on the whole yes I give them the benefit of the doubt..

before any strangers .... or people here ;D


Look to be fair...I've got a few cousins who married police officers. Their weddings were interesting. Everyone there was either a police officer or a detective lol. Or married to one.

They have a tough gig. They see a lot of terrible sh1t.

My main pain point is this (and you may have picked up on it by now): it's the level of training and preparedness for being sent out on the field that's wanting.

More experienced officers need to accompany these rookies.

It's not happening here in NSW. And it's clearly not happening in QLD 🥺


That didn't help Senior Constable Brett Forte & his partner(who escaped)Senior Constable Catherine Neilsen in the Lockyer Valley when they were ambushed in 2017.

Both experienced officers.

You don't become experienced unless you do the jobs required.


Fair comment.

Even so, I'm still of the opinion that police induction and training programs may need to be reviewed so that more experienced and better trained officers were involved in field operations. Police rookies need to be partnered/buddied up with older more experienced staff if they're going to learn the gig properly whilst on the job.

With said review I'd be hoping to see a review of PPE policies and procedures. Police should be required to wear protective gear whilst out of the office and that includes when going out to grab their lunch order too.

God I feel for the parents of those 2 police officers (Matthew 🌹 and Rachel 🌹) who lost their lives. These officers were around my (older) kids age. I've not stopped thinking about them or their families to be brutally honest. I'm wondering if these young beautiful Australians would still be alive if they had been wearing these:

Refer link 👇

https://www.hardshell.ae/wpcproduct/hi-viz-jacket/


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:16am

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:49am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:18am:
This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.


You have a real antagonism for the Qld police, have you not?


You don't need antagonism to make a logical comment.  Why should Qld Coppers investigate Qld coppers?  I agree with Bobby. This is far too serious and should be investigated by some authority having no kinship interest with Coppers.



Why do the QLD coppers need investigating? ...

Booby hasn't been asking logical questions - just wild assumptions & bs finger pointing.

You wouldn't have a beef with QLD coppers would you? ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:22am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:
Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?



Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.


My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.



We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.



Exactly.
There's a lot of inconsistencies in this story.
If they could keep it quiet, my guess is they would have, hence the little dribbles of info that just do not add up.

The weapons were either illigal semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons that would scare the crap out of Australians if it was published consistantly and possibly lower confidence in policing even further, or they were just your run of the mill bolt actions.


My guess is the later.
Whitnesses claimed "semi auto" sounding, but it could have been several single shots with magazines.
You can pull a bolt back pretty quickly, and if there are three weapons discharging all at once, emptying the mags, then it would sound like semi auto fire.
Also, if the stolen glocks were discharged then that would be semi auto fire.
There's 17 rounds in one clip. I don't believe the cops would be on the 10 round limit magazine's like the general pop.



This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.


Gawd you talk some shyte.

Is that why the NSW Police asked them to make the missing persons enquiry?

I think you should go & see your proctologist

I'm sure his investigation will confirm that you're full of shyte.


Yes I can almost visualise the presser right now. The QLD Police Commissioner standing surrounded by the incessant clicking of media cameras... issuing a sanitized media appropriate summary of the investigation concluding with this remark :

"Given the foregoing investigation results I can categorically confirm that Bobby from the OzPolic online forum is full of shyte."

::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:22am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:
I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?


Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.


If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.



Gun shots & smoke from the fires they lit to flush out the other coppers.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:28am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:12am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:04am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:54am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.


I don't think it was their decision.


How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. ::)


Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born  Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.


There are bad apples in every barrel .... but on the whole yes I give them the benefit of the doubt..

before any strangers .... or people here ;D


Look to be fair...I've got a few cousins who married police officers. Their weddings were interesting. Everyone there was either a police officer or a detective lol. Or married to one.

They have a tough gig. They see a lot of terrible sh1t.

My main pain point is this (and you may have picked up on it by now): it's the level of training and preparedness for being sent out on the field that's wanting.

More experienced officers need to accompany these rookies.

It's not happening here in NSW. And it's clearly not happening in QLD 🥺


That didn't help Senior Constable Brett Forte & his partner(who escaped)Senior Constable Catherine Neilsen in the Lockyer Valley when they were ambushed in 2017.

Both experienced officers.

You don't become experienced unless you do the jobs required.


Fair comment.

Even so, I'm still of the opinion that police induction and training programs may need to be reviewed so that more experienced and better trained officers were involved in field operations. Police rookies need to be partnered/buddied up with older more experienced staff if they're going to learn the gig properly whilst on the job.

With said review I'd be hoping to see a review of PPE policies and procedures. Police should be required to wear protective gear whilst out of the office and that includes when going out to grab their lunch order too.

God I feel for the parents of those 2 police officers (Matthew 🌹 and Rachel 🌹) who lost their lives. These officers were around my (older) kids age. I've not stopped thinking about them or their families to be brutally honest. I'm wondering if these young beautiful Australians would still be alive if they had been wearing these:

Refer link 👇

https://www.hardshell.ae/wpcproduct/hi-viz-jacket/


Have you seen the gear a copper has to carry now? My SIL is a copper.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:28am
Gnads

1. You're from QLD. Yes?

2. You appear to know quite a lot about cops. How come?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:32am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:28am:
Gnads

1. You're from QLD. Yes?

2. You appear to know quite a lot about cops. How come?


Read my previous response above.

And suggesting they add a bullet proof vest to the load is ridiculous.

They wouldn't run out of sight on a dark night or catch someone.

What they wear now is heavy enough & hot as hades in summer.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:32am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:33am
Gnads

I honestly don't know what gear cops wear/carry. I am hoping it's fit for purpose ie it would always keep them safe irrespective of who or where they were whilst on duty.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:38am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:32am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:28am:
Gnads

1. You're from QLD. Yes?

2. You appear to know quite a lot about cops. How come?


Read my previous response above.

And suggesting they add a bullet proof vest to the load is ridiculous.

They wouldn't run out of sight on a dark night or catch someone.

What they wear now is heavy enough & hot as hades in summer.


I just read back.

Well all I can conclude is this : the specs for police officer PPE needs to be reviewed. What is worn needs to be light and comfortable and not thwart their ability to move (walk/run) and must at all times never ever compromise their safety.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:40am
Not all geared up for the 'race war', were they?

I mean - even if they had a heap of illegal firearms (more to be revealed), what would they get?  Fines and maybe a little detention... hardly worth a gunfight that they can't win, is it? 

Well-being check - knock on the door - just checking on Joe Bloggs - Oh - he's OK... JOE!  Yeah?  Hi, Joe - your parents were a little concerned... you OK?  Sure - just taking a break - everything is fine.  OK then - we'll let your parents know, goodbye.

I'd be interested in hearing more from Mark Latham.................. what even prompted that discussion?????????

Once Upon A Time In Queensland.... Fear and Loathing In Wiembilla .....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:46am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am:
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.


Yes, that's right.

They were crazy conspiracy theorists in the vein of MAGA lunatics.

Getting their "news" from BitChute, InfoWars, banned.video, etc.

Remind you of anyone?



Round up all the psychos out there with guns and
hang em and hang em high.


Start rounding them up in here first.

There are three or four posters in this forum who are ticking time bombs.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:47am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:33am:
Gnads

I honestly don't know what gear cops wear/carry. I am hoping it's fit for purpose ie it would always keep them safe irrespective of who or where they were whilst on duty.


They take the correct gear to known situations.

What gear can they wear to keep them completely safe from high powered centre fire rifle ammunition that travels at 2,350 to 3,200 feet per second?

Senior Constable Norm Watt of the Dog squad in Rockhampton bled to death after being shot in the groin(femoral artery) in 2000.

In 2017 Senior Constable Brett Forte was shot in the arm & groin (femoral artery) and bled out.

Bullet proof vests wouldn't stop that happening.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:50am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:40am:
Not all geared up for the 'race war', were they?

I mean - even if they had a heap of illegal firearms (more to be revealed), what would they get?  Fines and maybe a little detention... hardly worth a gunfight that they can't win, is it? 

Well-being check - knock on the door - just checking on Joe Bloggs - Oh - he's OK... JOE!  Yeah?  Hi, Joe - your parents were a little concerned... you OK?  Sure - just taking a break - everything is fine.  OK then - we'll let your parents know, goodbye.

I'd be interested in hearing more from Mark Latham.................. what even prompted that discussion?????????

Once Upon A Time In Queensland....



He contacted Latham when he was working in the NSW education system. Not QLD old boy.

He even worked at East Innisfail state school(2017) where I attended in 1968.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am:
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.


Yes, that's right.

They were crazy conspiracy theorists in the vein of MAGA lunatics.

Getting their "news" from BitChute, InfoWars, banned.video, etc.

Remind you of anyone?



Round up all the psychos out there with guns and
hang em and hang em high.


Start rounding them up in here first.

There are three or four posters in this forum who are ticking time bombs.


You and your fake shared multi troll id buddies are those ticking time bombs. Now out you go. We're not here to talk about you a long term unemployed cyber junkie multi troll.

We're discussing police executed in QLD. Ping off!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:58am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Could be.

But even the pic of Nathaniel suggests he is part Aboriginal.

In any event .... left woke nutters will always push the following rule at you: Aboriginality has NOTHING to do with colour.

And after that you will find them doing whatever they can to extinguish the word "black".


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:00am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:22am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:
I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?


Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.


If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.



Gun shots & smoke from the fires they lit to flush out the other coppers.


Ah yes… it was the bushfire smoke that had the neighbour come to inspect… I forgot about the smoke situation…. Was only mentioned very briefly amidst all this but thanks for clarifying it.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:14am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:58am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Could be.

But even the pic of Nathaniel suggests he is part Aboriginal.

In any event .... left woke nutters will always push the following rule at you: Aboriginality has NOTHING to do with colour.

And after that you will find them doing whatever they can to extinguish the word "black".



I don't care for the left, or what they have to say. They're irrelevant in my life.


The fathers pic is out there.
White as white.
Still no pic of mum or brother and brothers wife.
I reckon I know why.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Kat on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:45am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:46am:
For whatever reason - the wife must have participated to be shot down with the others.

Waiting for someone to come out with the 'gunned down in cold blood in retaliation' theory ....

Anyway - another potential breeder out of the way .....


Not necessarily.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Kat on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:46am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:58am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Could be.

But even the pic of Nathaniel suggests he is part Aboriginal.

In any event .... left woke nutters will always push the following rule at you: Aboriginality has NOTHING to do with colour.

And after that you will find them doing whatever they can to extinguish the word "black".



I don't care for the left, or what they have to say. They're irrelevant in my life.


The fathers pic is out there.
White as white.
Still no pic of mum or brother and brothers wife.
I reckon I know why.


Stupid people do tend to 'think' that way.

It's one of the things which MAKE them stupid.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 1:12pm

Kat wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:46am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:58am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Could be.

But even the pic of Nathaniel suggests he is part Aboriginal.

In any event .... left woke nutters will always push the following rule at you: Aboriginality has NOTHING to do with colour.

And after that you will find them doing whatever they can to extinguish the word "black".



I don't care for the left, or what they have to say. They're irrelevant in my life.


The fathers pic is out there.
White as white.
Still no pic of mum or brother and brothers wife.
I reckon I know why.


Stupid people do tend to 'think' that way.

It's one of the things which MAKE them stupid.



Stupid people believe they are something that they are not.
Stupid people say they will ignore others, then respond later.
Stupid people tend to find wokism. Just look at the talent representing the woke agenda.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:15pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:32pm
Yes, this bloke is ??????  He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:42pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Sounds about right.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:44pm

Kat wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:45am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:46am:
For whatever reason - the wife must have participated to be shot down with the others.

Waiting for someone to come out with the 'gunned down in cold blood in retaliation' theory ....

Anyway - another potential breeder out of the way .....


Not necessarily.


She was seen in the cammo gear & armed

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:47pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them


You're phukkin jokin right?

She was in cammo gear & armed

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:56pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:32pm:
Yes, this bloke is ??????  He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.


And you'd of reacted how?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:32pm:
Yes, this bloke is ??????  He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.



You can't bring a pistol to a long gun fight ................ other than in Hollywood...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:00pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them


You're phukkin jokin right?

She was in cammo gear & armed


She always had the option of not being in the firing line.... didn't have to stay there.

Meth you say?  WTF could drive otherwise sensible people to use that?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:03pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them

I give this stupid comment my award for the "Most Ludicrous Claim Of The Day".




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:03pm
...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:09pm

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them

I give this stupid comment my award for the "Most Ludicrous Claim Of The Day".



LOL that got ya in didn't it?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:09am:
Turns out one of the shooters has a vast online history posting on Australian Conspiracy forums.


Yes, that's right.

They were crazy conspiracy theorists in the vein of MAGA lunatics.

Getting their "news" from BitChute, InfoWars, banned.video, etc.

Remind you of anyone?



Round up all the psychos out there with guns and
hang em and hang em high.


Start rounding them up in here first.

There are three or four posters in this forum who are ticking time bombs.


You got that right - that guy up there vanished from sight about the time Lefty departed these shores.... always figured that one was a ticking time bomb... I could name a few here who are definitely borderline.... though I doubt we agree on the names or the type.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:11pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Sounds about right.



Their old man got a start in all of this.
He's as white as snow.

Where's Mumzy' pic, and the others?

If my hunch is right then this does no favours for the media.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:16pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:09pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them

I give this stupid comment my award for the "Most Ludicrous Claim Of The Day".



LOL that got ya in didn't it?



Well played.
I knew what you were on about.  ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:22pm

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them

I give this stupid comment my award for the "Most Ludicrous Claim Of The Day".




Given that most of those women are killed by Aborigines, it is likely, with their Aboriginal blood, that the brothers did her in....

Still waiting to see if this is The Race War trigger... heroic warriors fight off overwhelming police attack.... three young women and a young bloke armed only with pistols and good intentions .....heroically defend their land etc.... trying to take it back for poor struggling Aboriginal children trapped in White Man's Captain Cook schools and abused, ill-treated, left uneducated and then murdered in prisons and subjected to all the conspiracy theories ... you know the drift...

Why - just last night read that some learned Aboriginal lady had posted that the number of Aboriginal women killed 'at home' etc far outdistances the number of wailed-about 'deaths in custody' .....in custody, of course, Abos die at a lower rate than in their own communities while in custody and at the same rate per capita as all others in custody.

Like the clown here who posted that there were so many deaths etc on Ayers Rock from climbing - and I pointed out that they were something around 1/20 or less the national average per capita....  bullshit piled on lies and more lies just to attain a selfish aim of possessing a natural feature that was there long before any Abo..... same as Mt Warning.

Lies, lies, and more bullshit piled on lies.

Now what kind of damned fool wants to start a race war his group has zero chance  of winning?  And yet is has started - five years of vandalism at Mt Warning.... mysterious season of bushfires after some bint said she'd like to see the whole thing burnt down.... every day where I live a new one would start up not long after school was out.... including in the heart of town in a nature reserve and across the narrow water to a vacant island with the high wind behind it to town .....you tell me....

Now if the fuzz play this one close to the chest, they will crack the ring behind all this... pity they didn't keep one alive, though.... for interrogation purposes before the hanging....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:27pm
Let's see if this dog will hunt - a picture of Stacey Train.... principal in a primary school and anti-vaxxer....


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:37pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:32pm:
Yes, this bloke is ??????  He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.


And you'd of reacted how?


Dunno, but if I had done what this bloke did...run away in a car....I would not want myself called a 'hero.'

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:57pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


Really?  :-?

How quiet is actually written words on a screen?  ::)

You did say how rumours start when the bull shyte gets going etc
Kind of condescending way to correct me when I made an error after explaining how erratic the way the news was showing photos of each officer and saying how one female cop was only in the force 6 weeks, but they said it on the photo of the deceased female cop…. Well their report and photos all jumbled up.
Now I’m quietly passive up you Aussie?
I was showing you how a good teacher in life… can show a person they are in error , yes, but at least also show what is correct. I think it’s called saving face?
I actually felt bad after you wrote what you did like as if I didn’t understand the news about 6 weeks.

Then Gnads explained the correction hence I was wondered why you didn’t Aussie, and then I read what you wrote how you didn’t know it was the other female cop that was in the force for only 6 weeks.
It’s okay Aussie, I forgive you   :-*

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:05pm
Oh one more thing Aussie (since I’m supposed to be up ya  :P)
You know I travel back and forth often between Queensland and Victoria.
How often do you come to Melbourne?
I ask because… you may see a difference between the way news is presented when compared to Qld.

In Melbourne tv news time it’s a little hectic and fast… not much good with details.
In Queensland I notice  how much better your news casting is… slower paced and time to digest with more details.
Often hubby and I have commented how much better the news is presented in Qld compared to Melbourne.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:23pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


that sort of worry is as inappropriate as carls covid worry

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:28pm
pity they didn't keep one alive, though.... for interrogation purposes before the hanging...

well..... they ..... have .... to .... give ..... the .... news.... slower.... up ...... there... so... people.... can... keep.... up .....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


that sort of worry is as inappropriate as carls covid worry


Why is it inappropriate Mr Ed? 

Do you reckon it is impossible the cavalry did not set out with murderous intent, and kill when other options were available?

If so, you know far more than I do about the facts of the matter.

I am speculating taking into account human weaknesses and real life likelihood.  I am not afraid to express that, just like I am not afraid to question the emotive and unlikely claims of 'heroics.'

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:32pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
pity they didn't keep one alive, though.... for interrogation purposes before the hanging...


Grappler...you may not have heard the klaxon call to the Higgins Thread.  Or maybe you did hear it and want to continue with your head in the sand.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by John Smith on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:33pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...



Are you saying that if I describe you as having the appearance of a dick, than you're a dick?

OK, I can live with that

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:35pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
pity they didn't keep one alive, though.... for interrogation purposes before the hanging...

well..... they ..... have .... to .... give ..... the .... news.... slower.... up ...... there... so... people.... can... keep.... up .....



The hangman has been cheated out of his hanging fee.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:41pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


that sort of worry is as inappropriate as carls covid worry


Why is it inappropriate Mr Ed? 

Do you reckon it is impossible the cavalry did not set out with murderous intent, and kill when other options were available?

If so, you know far more than I do about the facts of the matter.

I am speculating taking into account human weaknesses and real life likelihood.  I am not afraid to express that, just like I am not afraid to question the emotive and unlikely claims of 'heroics.'


Don't mind me....I'm only here because I'm curious to see how far this next level linked response can stretch to.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:35pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Sounds about right.



Their old man got a start in all of this.
He's as white as snow.

Where's Mumzy' pic, and the others?

If my hunch is right then this does no favours for the media.



Mumzy was a whitie, pic just displayed on 9 News


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:43pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:27pm:
Let's see if this dog will hunt - a picture of Stacey Train.... principal in a primary school and anti-vaxxer....



Oh ok, you've put a pic up of her already ... didn't see it before I replied to C/Caveman ... I was wondering who and what she was


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:58pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


that sort of worry is as inappropriate as carls covid worry


Why is it inappropriate Mr Ed? 

Do you reckon it is impossible the cavalry did not set out with murderous intent, and kill when other options were available?

If so, you know far more than I do about the facts of the matter.

I am speculating taking into account human weaknesses and real life likelihood.  I am not afraid to express that, just like I am not afraid to question the emotive and unlikely claims of 'heroics.'



do you reckon they should have gone in with pepper spray and tasers  ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:05pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:35pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Sounds about right.



Their old man got a start in all of this.
He's as white as snow.

Where's Mumzy' pic, and the others?

If my hunch is right then this does no favours for the media.



Mumzy was a whitie, pic just displayed on 9 News





A Wabo?
Like me...  ;D


When I grew up, aborigines were dark skinned.
These new ones are like camelions.
I would have walked straight past him going off the MP description.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:06pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


that sort of worry is as inappropriate as carls covid worry


Why is it inappropriate Mr Ed? 

Do you reckon it is impossible the cavalry did not set out with murderous intent, and kill when other options were available?

If so, you know far more than I do about the facts of the matter.

I am speculating taking into account human weaknesses and real life likelihood.  I am not afraid to express that, just like I am not afraid to question the emotive and unlikely claims of 'heroics.'



do you reckon they should have gone in with pepper spray and tasers  ::)




Sling shots.
Now that's a hero copper.
Take em down caveman style.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:10pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:09pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Why did the cops kill the woman who was in the house? That just adds to the already hundreds of women killed in recent years ... now the cops have killed one - shame on them

I give this stupid comment my award for the "Most Ludicrous Claim Of The Day".



LOL that got ya in didn't it?


Really?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:11pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Sounds about right.



Their old man got a start in all of this.
He's as white as snow.

Where's Mumzy' pic, and the others?

If my hunch is right then this does no favours for the media.


Yeah I posted his photo...

and he was super defensive

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:14pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:32pm:
Yes, this bloke is ??????  He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.


And you'd of reacted how?


Dunno, but if I had done what this bloke did...run away in a car....I would not want myself called a 'hero.'


Run away on one leg ... like I said you've been shot - what you gonna do?

Besides show you have a beef with Police...

why is that?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:15pm
Mr Ed:


Quote:
do you reckon they should have gone in with pepper spray and tasers  Roll Eyes


Did they have to 'go in' at all?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:19pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


Yeah well I say BS to that.

They allow 2 of their own to be ambushed -(Gareth Train was known to Police) -

so they can then take revenge?

Cop killers need to be taken out with extreme prejudice ....

end of.

I still reckon you have a beef with Police & you're just not saying.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:25pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:22am:
The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.



The teacher was a female.



The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.



The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.


And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….


Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021.  She is the deceased female copper.



The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.


And thank you for this clarification.
It was erratic news with photos of all 4 officers back and forth and saying the female was in the force 6 weeks. I assumed they were talking about the deceased but it was the other one that took off into the bush.
Now why couldn’t Aussie have clarified it further for me instead of just pointing out the error?  :-?


I could have, but I did not know how long the female copper who fled the scene leaving her comrades lying on the ground had been in the QPS.  I did know about the deceased female because the female head of the QPS had made mention of it in her initial press conference at the scene, something I watched.

Further, you were quite specific because you identified the one you were referring to as the deceased female.  Why would my mind then begin to consider you might have been referring to an entirely different surviving officer?


She didn't go far. ::)


So what.  LOLS is up me because I did not tell her that the six week rookie was the survivor not the deceased.

I merely stated what I knew when I posted.  LOLS was seriously wrong and that sort of error (if not corrected) takes off around this ignorant place and leads into all sorts of rabbit holes.


She wasn't up you at all.

Being melodramatic ey?

What's your beef with Police?


Oh...in her quiet passive way...she was up me. 

I have no 'beef' with Police...I do have a nagging worry that the killer ambushers were executed out of revenge.


that sort of worry is as inappropriate as carls covid worry


Why is it inappropriate Mr Ed? 

Do you reckon it is impossible the cavalry did not set out with murderous intent, and kill when other options were available?

If so, you know far more than I do about the facts of the matter.

I am speculating taking into account human weaknesses and real life likelihood.  I am not afraid to express that, just like I am not afraid to question the emotive and unlikely claims of 'heroics.'


Seeing there are so many unknowns ... that statement is as irrelevant as any other.

They needed dispatching for what they did & how they met the cavalry(as you put it)....

the shoot out lasted 6 hours.

They were shooting it out & they got shot & killed...

and rightly so.

You're talking shyte.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:26pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 4:33pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:25am:
"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...



Are you saying that if I describe you as having the appearance of a dick, than you're a dick?

OK, I can live with that


Never described you that way that I remember ... but you are.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:29pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:32pm:
Yes, this bloke is ??????  He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.


And you'd of reacted how?


Dunno, but if I had done what this bloke did...run away in a car....I would not want myself called a 'hero.'


Run away on one leg ... like I said you've been shot - what you gonna do?

Besides show you have a beef with Police...

why is that?


Apparently, a shot 'grazed' his leg but obviously did not disable him even enough to get to a cop car .......and..........drive off leaving two of his mates on the ground and one in fear hiding in the bush.

I am not saying I would have done any different.  I am saying none of that is heroic or deserving of any 'bravery' award.

I want to dial back all the hero pedestal bullshit...to the extent that I know the limited facts in the public domain.

Those killed wounded were in Government employment doing the job they signed up to do.

I am offended that Government is not doing what the public is now being encouraged to do.

I know this is an extreme example but it makes the point as best as I can make it simply.

If I am a copper and I get a splinter in my finger doing my job at work, should the public be emoted into giving me money?

These people and their families are the direct responsibility of Government, not the citizenry.

I might put my hand in my wallet when I hear what the Government is paying out.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:30pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:35pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:
I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.


Sounds about right.



Their old man got a start in all of this.
He's as white as snow.

Where's Mumzy' pic, and the others?

If my hunch is right then this does no favours for the media.



Mumzy was a whitie, pic just displayed on 9 News


Post a pic then.

There's been a blurry one posted here supposedly of Stacey Train .... but none of Gareth Train ...

still wondering why that is.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm

Quote:
Yeah well I say BS to that.

They allow 2 of their own to be ambushed -(Gareth Train was known to Police) -

so they can then take revenge?

Cop killers need to be taken out with extreme prejudice ....

end of.

I still reckon you have a beef with Police & you're just not saying.


Reckon what you like.  No skin off my nose.

However the Law is supreme and no Copper has the right to take that Law into his own hands.....like may have occurred here.

Note the word.....'may.'


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:34pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 2:32pm:
Yes, this bloke is ??????  He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.


And you'd of reacted how?


Dunno, but if I had done what this bloke did...run away in a car....I would not want myself called a 'hero.'


Run away on one leg ... like I said you've been shot - what you gonna do?

Besides show you have a beef with Police...

why is that?


Apparently, a shot 'grazed' his leg but obviously did not disable him even enough to get to a cop car .......and..........drive off leaving two of his mates on the ground and one in fear hiding in the bush.

I am not saying I would have done any different.  I am saying none of that is heroic or deserving of any 'bravery' award.

I want to dial back all the hero pedestal bullshit...to the extent that I know the limited facts in the public domain.

Those killed wounded were in Government employment doing the job they signed up to do.

I am offended that Government is not doing what the public is now being encouraged to do.

I know this is an extreme example but it makes the point as best as I can make it simply.

If I am a copper and I get a splinter in my finger doing my job at work, should the public be emoted into giving me money?

These people and their families are the direct responsibility of Government, not the citizenry.

I might put my hand in my wallet when I hear what the Government is paying out.


They'd already witnessed their comrades executed on the ground by these low lives.....

they were gone ... why should he or the other young female be next?

You have no idea except to put shyte on the pair of them.

Phukk you Aussie. >:(

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:35pm

Quote:
Seeing there are so many unknowns ... that statement is as irrelevant as any other.

They needed dispatching for what they did & how they met the cavalry(as you put it)....

the shoot out lasted 6 hours.

They were shooting it out & they got shot & killed...

and rightly so.

You're talking shyte.


Right there....revenge.....not Law.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:36pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:33pm:

Quote:
Yeah well I say BS to that.

They allow 2 of their own to be ambushed -(Gareth Train was known to Police) -

so they can then take revenge?

Cop killers need to be taken out with extreme prejudice ....

end of.

I still reckon you have a beef with Police & you're just not saying.


Reckon what you like.  No skin off my nose.

However the Law is supreme and no Copper has the right to take that Law into his own hands.....like may have occurred here.

Note the word.....'may.'


supposition ... overruled ... address the issue or I'll find you in contempt.  :P

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:37pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

Quote:
Seeing there are so many unknowns ... that statement is as irrelevant as any other.

They needed dispatching for what they did & how they met the cavalry(as you put it)....

the shoot out lasted 6 hours.

They were shooting it out & they got shot & killed...

and rightly so.

You're talking shyte.


Right there....revenge.....not Law.


Phukk off

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:49pm

Quote:
They'd already witnessed their comrades executed on the ground by these low lives.....


We do not know that.  I think it is unlikely the fleeing cops were aware of anything other than that they were under heavy gun fire....... and they fled.....and their mates were not fleeing with them. 

There is ZERO in the public domain suggesting that the fleeing cops knew their mates were dead, or executed.  In fact, logic suggests that when the killer ambushers approached the two cops on the ground and allegedly there executed them, the two other coppers were long gone and saw nothing.


Quote:
they were gone ... why should he or the other young female be next?


Sure, no argument. But....do not tell me there is anything heroic or brave in their flight.


Quote:
You have no idea except to put shyte on the pair of them.


I know the basic facts in the public domain probably more than  you do because I take the time to read, watch and listen.

I am not putting 'shyte' on them.  I am putting claim of absolute emotive bullshit on the assertion that any one of the initial four on the scene were heroes or 'brave.'

Imagine you are back driving your coal train and the bloody thing is derailed because of sabotage.  Are you in any way heroic or even brave because you were the driver?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
[quote author=Aussie link=1670839340/329#329 date=1670999468][quote author=aquascoot link=1670839340/327#327 date=1670999035][quote author=Aussie link=1670839340/324#324 date=1670996465][quote author=Gnads link=1670839340/312#312 date=1670993884][quote author=Aussie link=1670839340/310#310 date=1670993538]


do you reckon they should have gone in with pepper spray and tasers  ::)


Bit of harsh language..... reasonable sit down and chat..... it can all be settled over a cup of tea.....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 14th, 2022 at 7:58pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:49pm:

Quote:
They'd already witnessed their comrades executed on the ground by these low lives.....


We do not know that.  I think it is unlikely the fleeing cops were aware of anything other than that they were under heavy gun fire....... and they fled.....and their mates were not fleeing with them. 

There is ZERO in the public domain suggesting that the fleeing cops knew their mates were dead, or executed.  In fact, logic suggests that when the killer ambushers approached the two cops on the ground and allegedly there executed them, the two other coppers were long gone and saw nothing.

[quote]they were gone ... why should he or the other young female be next?


Sure, no argument. But....do not tell me there is anything heroic or brave in their flight.


Quote:
You have no idea except to put shyte on the pair of them.


I know the basic facts in the public domain probably more than  you do because I take the time to read, watch and listen.

I am not putting 'shyte' on them.  I am putting claim of absolute emotive bullshit on the assertion that any one of the initial four on the scene were heroes or 'brave.'

Imagine you are back driving your coal train and the bloody thing is derailed because of sabotage.  Are you in any way heroic or even brave because you were the driver?

[/quote]

Hang on a tic…. Mentioned earlier on in this thread… who was it that witnessed the assassins that went up to the 2 injured cops on ground and shot them again to be dead?

Who?
The only ones that would’ve seen that were the 2 cops that took off, so it was either or.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:40pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

Quote:
Seeing there are so many unknowns ... that statement is as irrelevant as any other.

They needed dispatching for what they did & how they met the cavalry(as you put it)....

the shoot out lasted 6 hours.

They were shooting it out & they got shot & killed...

and rightly so.

You're talking shyte.


Right there....revenge.....not Law.


How are the police going to apprehend people who are shooting at them, are they not allowed to shoot back?

Since this incident ended at night i reckon a policeman with a thermal scope took them out. The TS will show heat coming out of gun when fired and blood splatter when they hit the offenders.Yes there are reports the female was also shooting at police.

Reports are they were ICE junkies people go batshit crazy on that stuff.

They had illegal firearms which they used to kill police and a neighbor they continued to shoot at police when backup arrived.

Shooting the 3 offenders was the best result for us it saves a shitload of legal fees and costs to throw them in jail for the rest of their lives.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:16am
So they're white aboriginals on the ice.
Farrk that drug.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:35am
The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family  .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.


Quote:
SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.


I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? >:(
Stacey_Train.jpg (80 KB | 10 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:57am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:35am:
The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family  .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.


Quote:
SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.


I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? >:(



They are in their early 20s, so hopefully nowhere near the joint.
The ice use is only recently, not a long term thing according to locals in the area.

Apparently the house had tunnels, fortified entries, completely off grid which the two brothers worked hard in achieving, caches of ammo and more weapons, stratically placed objects in the yard to act like barriers etc.
Preppers big time.

Oh, and she lost her principle job due to refusing the syrup.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:01am
This sort of back up what locals are saying.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/new-link-between-cop-killing-brothers-and-wife-revealed/news-story/60fea9d0aef2f0bdac8a137b347bdd2d


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:57am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:35am:
The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family  .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.


Quote:
SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.


I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? >:(



They are in their early 20s, so hopefully nowhere near the joint.
The ice use is only recently, not a long term thing according to locals in the area.

Apparently the house had tunnels, fortified entries, completely off grid which the two brothers worked hard in achieving, caches of ammo and more weapons, stratically placed objects in the yard to act like barriers etc.
Preppers big time.


With only 8 solar panels?

I would have expected a lot more than that.

Must have had a good supply of AA batteries & candles.

South of Chinchilla & around Tara, including the town is a known "blockie" - unemployed feral druggo area.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:57am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:35am:
The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family  .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.


Quote:
SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.


I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? >:(



They are in their early 20s, so hopefully nowhere near the joint.
The ice use is only recently, not a long term thing according to locals in the area.

Apparently the house had tunnels, fortified entries, completely off grid which the two brothers worked hard in achieving, caches of ammo and more weapons, stratically placed objects in the yard to act like barriers etc.
Preppers big time.

Oh, and she lost her principle job due to refusing the syrup.


Typical right-wing extremists.

They had MAGA posters on their walls, which tells you everything you need to know.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by mothra on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:06am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am:
They had MAGA posters on their walls, which tells you everything you need to know.



For real?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:09am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:57am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:35am:
The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family  .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.


Quote:
SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.


I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? >:(



They are in their early 20s, so hopefully nowhere near the joint.
The ice use is only recently, not a long term thing according to locals in the area.

Apparently the house had tunnels, fortified entries, completely off grid which the two brothers worked hard in achieving, caches of ammo and more weapons, stratically placed objects in the yard to act like barriers etc.
Preppers big time.

Oh, and she lost her principle job due to refusing the syrup.


Typical right-wing extremists.

They had MAGA posters on their walls, which tells you everything you need to know.



Did they?
Never saw that info, or did you just make that up?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:14am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:01am:
This sort of back up what locals are saying.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/new-link-between-cop-killing-brothers-and-wife-revealed/news-story/60fea9d0aef2f0bdac8a137b347bdd2d


Gareth looks even less likely Aboriginal than Nathaniel.

On the Autism Spectrum as well .... could explain a bit about him ... but the other two???

Anti-vax, anti police, conspiracy theorists & raised evangelical Christians .... sort of fits the DD prepper mold alright.

And the 3 of them all worked for QLD Education at one time. Gareth quitting first in 2016.

So I'd say he had it bad even before Covid.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:20am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am:
Typical right-wing extremists.

They had MAGA posters on their walls, which tells you everything you need to know.



Did they?
Never saw that info, or did you just make that up?



Greggy makes crap up.   ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:21am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:14am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:01am:
This sort of back up what locals are saying.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/new-link-between-cop-killing-brothers-and-wife-revealed/news-story/60fea9d0aef2f0bdac8a137b347bdd2d


Gareth looks even less likely Aboriginal than Nathaniel.

On the Autism Spectrum as well .... could explain a bit about him ... but the other two???

Anti-vax, anti police, conspiracy theorists & raised evangelical Christians .... sort of fits the DD prepper mold alright.

And the 3 of them all worked for QLD Education at one time. Gareth quitting first in 2016.

So I'd say he had it bad even before Covid.


Dear Lord! Stacey Train was married to Nathaniel before she married his brother Gareth.

There was a dysfunctional love triangle going on apparently 😳


https://7news.com.au/news/qld/train-brothers-and-woman-at-centre-of-deadly-queensland-police-shooting-had-been-in-love-triangle-c-9159807

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:22am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:20am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am:
Typical right-wing extremists.

They had MAGA posters on their walls, which tells you everything you need to know.



Did they?
Never saw that info, or did you just make that up?



Greggy makes crap up.   ::)


Groggy IS crap! Ignore the insane fool!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:31am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:57am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:35am:
The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family  .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.


Quote:
SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.


I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? >:(



They are in their early 20s, so hopefully nowhere near the joint.
The ice use is only recently, not a long term thing according to locals in the area.

Apparently the house had tunnels, fortified entries, completely off grid which the two brothers worked hard in achieving, caches of ammo and more weapons, stratically placed objects in the yard to act like barriers etc.
Preppers big time.


With only 8 solar panels?

I would have expected a lot more than that.

Must have had a good supply of AA batteries & candles.

South of Chinchilla & around Tara, including the town is a known "blockie" - unemployed feral druggo area.



Yeah I laughed at that as well, but it's only here say from locals, possibly the previous occupant.
Think it's in that link, or one of its sublinks that I posted above.
I've read that much in the last 24hrs trying to get an MO.
It's a weird mess they were all in.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing [highlight[solar panels, satellite dishes and rainwater and septic tanks.[/highlight]

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.


That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:14am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:01am:
This sort of back up what locals are saying.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/new-link-between-cop-killing-brothers-and-wife-revealed/news-story/60fea9d0aef2f0bdac8a137b347bdd2d


Gareth looks even less likely Aboriginal than Nathaniel.

On the Autism Spectrum as well .... could explain a bit about him ... but the other two???

Anti-vax, anti police, conspiracy theorists & raised evangelical Christians .... sort of fits the DD prepper mold alright.

And the 3 of them all worked for QLD Education at one time. Gareth quitting first in 2016.

So I'd say he had it bad even before Covid.



Yep, covid tipped him I reckon.

He was waiting for the army to roll up and try and detain them or inject him with syrup or something.
Just down the road is that well camp. A lot of rumours started about what it was going to be used for.
I reckon it's murder suicide by police.
Common way of suicidal people to think.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:35am
https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/cop-killers-name-linked-to-disturbing-conspiracy-and-antipolice-posts/news-story/86d0c720e26865735f08b013f9493b8b

Bingo!

There was bad blood btwn the Trains and the Police.

Lots of incidents spanning a 20 yr period in fact! So I guess things reached boiling point.

During the latter part of that 20 year period ... Covid19 (and incessant lockdowns) took place ADDING more pressure to the boiling point.

The Trains like the rest of Australia went online. There they linked up with others who could identify with their issues.

These interactions further entrenched/validated their beliefs.

Over time .... these views progressed to a point where they decided to take "action".

🥺🥺🥺


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.

[highlight]
That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 



I agree.
No services out there.
Media dramatising the story again.
The house had previous occupants so it had to be plumbed into septic and water back then.
As for the power, sure, they may well have installed the panels and a battery but like you say, 8 panels will do farrkk all.


I am going through exactly this right now in a coastal town, up your way actually, just north of Rainbow Beach.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:14am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:01am:
This sort of back up what locals are saying.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/new-link-between-cop-killing-brothers-and-wife-revealed/news-story/60fea9d0aef2f0bdac8a137b347bdd2d


Gareth looks even less likely Aboriginal than Nathaniel.

On the Autism Spectrum as well .... could explain a bit about him ... but the other two???

Anti-vax, anti police, conspiracy theorists & raised evangelical Christians .... sort of fits the DD prepper mold alright.

And the 3 of them all worked for QLD Education at one time. Gareth quitting first in 2016.

So I'd say he had it bad even before Covid.



Yep, covid tipped him I reckon.

He was waiting for the army to roll up and try and detain them or inject him with syrup or something.
Just down the road is that well camp. A lot of rumours started about what it was going to be used for.
I reckon it's murder suicide by police.
Common way of suicidal people to think.


well camp???

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:42am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:14am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:01am:
This sort of back up what locals are saying.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/new-link-between-cop-killing-brothers-and-wife-revealed/news-story/60fea9d0aef2f0bdac8a137b347bdd2d


Gareth looks even less likely Aboriginal than Nathaniel.

On the Autism Spectrum as well .... could explain a bit about him ... but the other two???

Anti-vax, anti police, conspiracy theorists & raised evangelical Christians .... sort of fits the DD prepper mold alright.

And the 3 of them all worked for QLD Education at one time. Gareth quitting first in 2016.

So I'd say he had it bad even before Covid.



Yep, covid tipped him I reckon.

He was waiting for the army to roll up and try and detain them or inject him with syrup or something.
Just down the road is that well camp. A lot of rumours started about what it was going to be used for.
I reckon it's murder suicide by police.
Common way of suicidal people to think.


well camp???



Yeah, that covid centre that has been built in Toowoomba.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/wellcamp-quarantine-facility-near-toowoomba-on-track/100524150


Same as the one at Pinkenba, but bigger.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:42am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.

[highlight]
That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 



I agree.
No services out there.
Media dramatising the story again.
The house had previous occupants so it had to be plumbed into septic and water back then.
As for the power, sure, they may well have installed the panels and a battery but like you say, 8 panels will do farrkk all.


I am going through exactly this right now in a coastal town, up your way actually, just north of Rainbow Beach.


Please don't tell me that place was formerly known as Black Beach 🥺

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:43am
Click

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:46am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.

[highlight]
That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 



I agree.
No services out there.
Media dramatising the story again.
The house had previous occupants so it had to be plumbed into septic and water back then.
As for the power, sure, they may well have installed the panels and a battery but like you say, 8 panels will do farrkk all.


I am going through exactly this right now in a coastal town, up your way actually, just north of Rainbow Beach.



Tin Can or Cooloola Cove?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:46am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:42am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.

[highlight]
That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 



I agree.
No services out there.
Media dramatising the story again.
The house had previous occupants so it had to be plumbed into septic and water back then.
As for the power, sure, they may well have installed the panels and a battery but like you say, 8 panels will do farrkk all.


I am going through exactly this right now in a coastal town, up your way actually, just north of Rainbow Beach.


Please don't tell me that place was formerly known as Black Beach 🥺



;D ;D ;D

No it was Rainbow Beach back when rainbows were for everyone.
Absolute shythole, you don't want to go there...  ;D ;D ;D

Nah, it's beautiful.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:54am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:42am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:14am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:01am:
This sort of back up what locals are saying.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/new-link-between-cop-killing-brothers-and-wife-revealed/news-story/60fea9d0aef2f0bdac8a137b347bdd2d


Gareth looks even less likely Aboriginal than Nathaniel.

On the Autism Spectrum as well .... could explain a bit about him ... but the other two???

Anti-vax, anti police, conspiracy theorists & raised evangelical Christians .... sort of fits the DD prepper mold alright.

And the 3 of them all worked for QLD Education at one time. Gareth quitting first in 2016.

So I'd say he had it bad even before Covid.



Yep, covid tipped him I reckon.

He was waiting for the army to roll up and try and detain them or inject him with syrup or something.
Just down the road is that well camp. A lot of rumours started about what it was going to be used for.
I reckon it's murder suicide by police.
Common way of suicidal people to think.


well camp???



Yeah, that covid centre that has been built in Toowoomba.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/wellcamp-quarantine-facility-near-toowoomba-on-track/100524150


Same as the one at Pinkenba, but bigger.


Yeah I thought that maybe but wanted clarification .....

it's 141klm as the crow flies from their place to Wellcamp Accommodation Centre.

I know in rural terminology that's just down the road but I wouldn't want to walk it.  ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:12am
https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437


👆 This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.


🥺








Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:14am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.

[highlight]
That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 



I agree.
No services out there.
Media dramatising the story again.
The house had previous occupants so it had to be plumbed into septic and water back then.
As for the power, sure, they may well have installed the panels and a battery but like you say, 8 panels will do farrkk all.


I am going through exactly this right now in a coastal town, up your way actually, just north of Rainbow Beach.



Tin Can or Cooloola Cove?


Poona.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:24am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:03am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:57am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:35am:
The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family  .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.


Quote:
SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.


I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? >:(



They are in their early 20s, so hopefully nowhere near the joint.
The ice use is only recently, not a long term thing according to locals in the area.

Apparently the house had tunnels, fortified entries, completely off grid which the two brothers worked hard in achieving, caches of ammo and more weapons, stratically placed objects in the yard to act like barriers etc.
Preppers big time.


With only 8 solar panels?

I would have expected a lot more than that.

Must have had a good supply of AA batteries & candles.

South of Chinchilla & around Tara, including the town is a known "blockie" - unemployed feral druggo area.


Geez I live in an rural/farming area where we are on tank water, septic tank, lpg tanks for hws and cooking, and 20 solar panels, wood heating, and a dish on the roof.
Nowhere near wishful for total off grid living! Except during power blackouts… then generator comes to the rescue.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:18am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:14am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.

[highlight]
That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 



I agree.
No services out there.
Media dramatising the story again.
The house had previous occupants so it had to be plumbed into septic and water back then.
As for the power, sure, they may well have installed the panels and a battery but like you say, 8 panels will do farrkk all.


I am going through exactly this right now in a coastal town, up your way actually, just north of Rainbow Beach.



Tin Can or Cooloola Cove?


Poona.

 
Ohhh it was beastly hot in Poona by the sea you know.... ;D

I know a few people who live there & Maroom & Boonooroo.

Not long ago had a bit of strife at Poona over the Native Title claim on Fraser Island.

Some so called Butchullas(I didn't recognise any of them) setting up camp on the foreshore- ripping out plants put there by locals as binders against foreshore erosion & telling locals it was theirs, they had the deed in their hands(which was a lie) & things were going to change around here & we'll put up an 8 foot fence, how ya gonna like that ey? ..... sort of BS...

they even posted it to FB.

Apparently the Hervey Bay branch of the Aboriginal legal service rang them & told them they had to leave ......

they don't have title claim over the Poona foreshore.

But be warned. ;)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:27am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:12am:
https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437


👆 This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.


🥺


The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:02am


Well, I for one am glad the Trains were derailed.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:34am

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:02am:
Well, I for one am glad the Trains were derailed.


Very droll  ;D

But not without collateral damage.

Derailments - always an old train drivers fear ....

& not being able to stop ...

because

Old Charlie stole the handle
And the train it won't stop going
No way to slow down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d76pxiPlxHs&ab_channel=earMUSIC

These few lines from the lyrics might be applicable to these Trains relationship together.

"He sees his children jumping off
At the stations one by one
His woman and his best friend
In bed and having fun"

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by aquascoot on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:46am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:14am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Quote:
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing

“He said it had tunnels, fortified and barred doors and windows, guns everywhere and the boys (the Train brothers) had been taking ice lately,” the local from the nearby town of Tara said.

[highlight]
That's just bullshyte ..... every house/property out there would have to have rain water & septic tanks..... there is no town water or sewage.

Most would have some solar .... & satellite dishes if they wanted the internet.

From the real time photos(some are when the house was first moved there) you cannot see any brickwork to cover tunnels under the house.

Not saying they may not have had a bunker somewhere. 



I agree.
No services out there.
Media dramatising the story again.
The house had previous occupants so it had to be plumbed into septic and water back then.
As for the power, sure, they may well have installed the panels and a battery but like you say, 8 panels will do farrkk all.


I am going through exactly this right now in a coastal town, up your way actually, just north of Rainbow Beach.



Tin Can or Cooloola Cove?


Poona.


Sandflies

Good mud crab and whiting

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:46am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:12am:
https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437


👆 This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.


🥺


The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.


I read Baptist (somewhere).

What you mentioned is Anglican Church linked. I personally know a few people who are now high up in that organisation as I went through Uni with them. All are very decent, humble and law abiding citizens who are also well educated and basically "normal'.

It's just these 2 Train boys who don't make sense. They left home and did their own thing totally estranging themselves from family and friends and ... the entire world really. How these boys EVER held positions of trust as teachers is what has me puzzled too.

Bizarre stuff.

Edit : Here's another thing which doesn't make sense : If their delusional beliefs were aimed at police officers then why did they kill their own neighbour in cold blood who wasn't a police officer?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:51am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:12am:
https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437


👆 This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.


🥺


The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.


I read Baptist (somewhere).

What you mentioned is Anglican Church linked. I personally know a few people who are now high up in that organisation as I went through Uni with them. All are very decent, humble and law abiding citizens who are also well educated and basically "normal'.

It's just these 2 Train boys who don't make sense. They left home and did their own thing totally estranging themselves from family and friends and ... the entire world really. How these boys EVER held positions of trust as teachers is what has me puzzled too.

Bizarre stuff.

Edit : Here's another thing which doesn't make sense : If their delusional beliefs were aimed at police officers then why did they kill their own neighbour in cold blood who wasn't a police officer?


FITH = F ucked  I n  T he  H ead.

It happens to people.

With this lot their upbringing & education & life experiences didn't make any difference.

Neighbours reckon they were on the meth.

That would increase their paranoia

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:51am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:17pm
Dear Lord!

This tragedy just gets more bizarre by the day 😳

Have a read of this 👇

https://7news.com.au/news/qld/network-of-surveillance-cameras-found-at-wieambilla-property-where-two-police-shot-dead-c-9167586

ESP this part re what it took to stop these 3 idiots :

As the incident unfolded, all three members of the Train family were considered active shooters and died with their weapons clutched in their hands, a police source told AAP.

Hundreds of rounds were exchanged before the trio were shot and killed.

One shooter was killed as he fired directly at the bulletproof windscreen of an armoured police vehicle as it approached the homestead.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:24pm
I recall the audio saying that P1 was down and then P2 was down and blood was seen.... P3 must have been taken to Austranamo Bay for interrogation.... the gulag at the ed of the line... few ever enter but none ever return.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nGobO3bWE8

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:02pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:51am:
Neighbours reckon they were on the meth.


Sending young rookie police into a bush area of known drug use and with people known to police was a good idea wasn't it?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:41pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:12am:
https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437


👆 This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.


🥺


The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.


I read Baptist (somewhere).

What you mentioned is Anglican Church linked. I personally know a few people who are now high up in that organisation as I went through Uni with them. All are very decent, humble and law abiding citizens who are also well educated and basically "normal'.

It's just these 2 Train boys who don't make sense. They left home and did their own thing totally estranging themselves from family and friends and ... the entire world really. How these boys EVER held positions of trust as teachers is what has me puzzled too.

Bizarre stuff.

Edit : Here's another thing which doesn't make sense : If their delusional beliefs were aimed at police officers then why did they kill their own neighbour in cold blood who wasn't a police officer?


FITH = F ucked  I n  T he  H ead.

It happens to people.

With this lot their upbringing & education & life experiences didn't make any difference.

Neighbours reckon they were on the meth.

That would increase their paranoia


The 'Baptist' reference was in Tuesday's The Australian.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Boris on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:51pm
Police shot and murdered by Aborigines

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-australia-2022

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:12am:
https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437


👆 This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.


🥺


The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.


I read Baptist (somewhere).

What you mentioned is Anglican Church linked. I personally know a few people who are now high up in that organisation as I went through Uni with them. All are very decent, humble and law abiding citizens who are also well educated and basically "normal'.

It's just these 2 Train boys who don't make sense. They left home and did their own thing totally estranging themselves from family and friends and ... the entire world really. How these boys EVER held positions of trust as teachers is what has me puzzled too.

Bizarre stuff.

Edit : Here's another thing which doesn't make sense : If their delusional beliefs were aimed at police officers then why did they kill their own neighbour in cold blood who wasn't a police officer?


FITH = F ucked  I n  T he  H ead.

It happens to people.

With this lot their upbringing & education & life experiences didn't make any difference.

Neighbours reckon they were on the meth.

That would increase their paranoia


The 'Baptist' reference was in Tuesday's The Australian.


Yeah well even the Australian doesn't always get it right either ey?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:01pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?



Different sorts of miners too.

Open cut & underground

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:06pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-australia-2022

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐


In case you were stumped....look at the figures for Public Administration and Safety  👇
8F314676-AEB1-4F63-8667-21B59DF26332.jpeg (217 KB | 12 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:07pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-australia-2022

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐



Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:12pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-australia-2022

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐



Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???


Yeah. That's what coppers are. They publicly administer safety.

As regards ADF - it's probably assumed that they're just going to die anyway because when you go to war it's all about killing or being killed.

Administration and Support Services ffs??? I'm stumped at the figures for people who stuff around with files and paperwork all day 😳

Edit : OMG the figures for admin and support services are higher than public admin and safety 😳😳😳😳



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:18pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-australia-2022

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐



Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???


I had already found that Link but because it made no specific reference to Coppers, I made my inquiry. 

Lisa Jones, no-one asked you be to be their research assistant.

It seems to me that people in many occupations other than Copper are less likely to return home from work than coppers but somehow we are being snowed with the concept that coppers have some sort of courage merely because they go to work.

Fuq off with the teary garbage, Albanese, Dutton and all you other wankers who are virtue signalling over this incident.  Schits me large.  People die, or are injured at work doing their job every day, and going to work as a copper seems to be far less dangerous, far less requiring courage, that for many other far more dangerous occupations.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:22pm
Here is a graph re last year's fatality figures.
FCE05D2C-CF95-477C-AED8-F941B81BD640.jpeg (207 KB | 11 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:41pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-australia-2022

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐



Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???


I had already found that Link but because it made no specific reference to Coppers, I made my inquiry. 

Lisa Jones, no-one asked you be to be their research assistant.

It seems to me that people in many occupations other than Copper are less likely to return home from work than coppers but somehow we are being snowed with the concept that coppers have some sort of courage merely because they go to work.

Fuq off with the teary garbage, Albanese, Dutton and all you other wankers who are virtue signalling over this incident.  Schits me large.  People die, or are injured at work doing their job every day, and going to work as a copper seems to be far less dangerous, far less requiring courage, that for many other far more dangerous occupations.



And going to work as a male is more than double as dangerous then for females.

And the bitch is on about a so called gender pay gap?  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:52pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-australia-2022

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐



Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???


I had already found that Link but because it made no specific reference to Coppers, I made my inquiry. 

Lisa Jones, no-one asked you be to be their research assistant.

It seems to me that people in many occupations other than Copper are less likely to return home from work than coppers but somehow we are being snowed with the concept that coppers have some sort of courage merely because they go to work.

Fuq off with the teary garbage, Albanese, Dutton and all you other wankers who are virtue signalling over this incident.  Schits me large.  People die, or are injured at work doing their job every day, and going to work as a copper seems to be far less dangerous, far less requiring courage, that for many other far more dangerous occupations.



And going to work as a male is more than double as dangerous then for females.

And the bitch is on about a so called gender pay gap?  ;D ;D


Obviously we girls are more careful 😎

Could you take a look at this?

https://policehealth.com.au/emergency-services-job-greatest-risk-leading-cause-death-30-year-olds-suicide

There's absolutely nothing else! There is some research (and related figures) which date back to 2009.

But I do know that suicide is another consideration we've not covered here. Yet.

It seems that the only way to calculate the number of officers who died whilst on duty in Australia is to manually add up each state's figure (which I think is appalling).

Note : The Australian Federal Police figures are readily available though.


OMG ! Look at our ADF suicide figures  😳

D5B24236-4618-4185-B7CC-7615343FC955.jpeg (114 KB | 13 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:53pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.


Police would come under "Law Enforcement", which obviously isn't in that list Lisa


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:03pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.


Police would come under "Law Enforcement", which obviously isn't in that list Lisa


Ok. Well I've just located this document. It kinda verifies my suspicions ... well Aussie's too in that it's not AS dangerous as we think. Although .... the issue of suicide is still bothering me.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10345329.2020.1784502?journalCode=rcic20

👆 Policing is considered one of the most dangerous and stressful occupations. The role and duties of officers mean that they are more likely to encounter not only accidents, but also assaults. Furthermore, the physical demands and occupational stresses of the job mean that officers are at risk of medical conditions that cause strain on the body such as heart attacks.

This paper examines the current nature of police officer fatalities in Australia. In turn, this paper aims to identify strategies to prevent police fatalities. To do this, the study examined all police officer deaths in Australia between 2002 and 2019 (n = 39). Results revealed three main typologies of police fatalities in Australia: accidents, assaults and health-related fatalities. Accidents accounted for the largest proportion of fatalities, followed by assaults and health fatalities.

Furthermore, the results showed a significant decrease in the number of police fatalities post 2006. These results are discussed in terms of changes to policing policies and practices that may have influenced this decline. Overall, these findings provided valuable insights into the current nature of police fatalities.

These findings have implications for policing authorities in implementing prevention strategies to reduce and prevent officer deaths.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm
Everything so far points to a conclusion that being a copper is much safer than being in many other occupations.

(Lisa Jones...suicides in the ex-ADF is well known (yes also tragic) and there has been a recent if not current Royal Commission on the very issue.) 

I am referring to coppers.  The gushing teary rush to make/declare these coppers heroes and courageous and doing a dangerous job they might not return home from (while true) is emotive smoke/mirrors hyperbole, not reflected/substantiated in industry comparisons, and the dramatic sobbing wankers are taking full advantage of it.  Sure, the recent incident involved copper death....fair enough....but fuq off with the "courageous/hero" absolute horseshit.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.



It's a different work environment.
Most people are compliant with cops.

The danger arises quickly with coppers, and it's always different.
There is no time to fill out risk assessments. That's all done on the fly. That's the training they lack imo, but they're lucky in this country, they don't really need hard core defence training.... Yet.


Dangers on construction sites can be identified and tend to be reoccurring dangers.
If something changes, we sit down and review safe work methods and job safety analyses, we toolbox (talk in a group) about the work to be carried out. We use what they call a risk matrix. What that is is a series of numbers and letters on a graph. It is used for every step of the job to be carried out.
If you end up in the red section.... Rethink your procedures to work the risk down lower. It can be done 99% of the time.
When we're happy and in the green section of the matrix, we all sign on to say we agree to follow the steps and procedures as per the toolbox discussion.
If foelr some reason the task changes, we have time to stop and reassess the situation and again, work the risk to as low as possible.
This all takes time.

If you've got 5.56mm NATO rounds flying around you at random, time is life or death. You've got to act quickly while tryi g to keep as safe as possible.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   :-/

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   :-/



They'd be Crocodile tears.
Those bastards don't cry.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:47pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   :-/



They'd be Crocodile tears.
Those bastards don't cry.



Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Johnnie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:47pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   :-/



They'd be Crocodile tears.
Those bastards don't cry.



Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.



Yeah maybe him.
He was a serving officer and all.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:08pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.


Why?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Johnnie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:10pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.


Why?


Because the media says so.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:20pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.


Why?


Because the media says so.


Sure and all they give a fuq about is selling their product sucking every last drop of blood they can out of anything they have fostered reader interest in. 

A copper death is music to their arsehole ears....just like it is with sobbing politicians who bung on public displays of teary virtue signalling to appease/enlist a gullible public willing to fall for the crap.

I think it is established that there are far more dangerous occupations involving a service to community (what occupation doesn't...even train drivers are performing a community service as are Cabbies, as are miners, carpenters.....everyone who works is contributing service to community.)

Maybe SES and Rural Firies (volunteers ?????) are a special category as they are not paid (??????) for what they do....or are they?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:22pm
Aussie,
Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
You can't fake that.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Aussie,
Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
You can't fake that.


Really.....have you never seen a movie where someone cries or sobs?

In any event, he too is invested in the sobbing garbage because he too has been convinced that coppers are so special that when they perish doing their job, it is far more significant than if a miner perishes doing their job...and there must be national recognition of it.

If you think logically, clinically...not emotively....and take away the ready box of tissues you can't wait to grab at, you'll see I am right about this.

Every life is valuable and not just the life of a copper who perishes doing the job they signed up for and for which the community pays them.

For example:

As I type.....My old long term mate from Bundy and friend and medical practitioner is about to fall of his perch from cancer at 75 years of age, and there will be no tears for him from 'Dutton' ~ no national media coverage and no great big state funeral, no virtue signalling.

He too provided a community service facing whatever potentially nutter MIGHT come into his surgery.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:39pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Aussie,
Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
You can't fake that.


Really.....have you never seen a movie where someone cries or sobs?



In movies they squeeze a cut onion in front of their eyes to make them cry.
I didn't see any onion.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Johnnie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:46pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:20pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.


Why?


Because the media says so.


Sure and all they give a fuq about is selling their product sucking every last drop of blood they can out of anything they have fostered reader interest in. 

A copper death is music to their arsehole ears....just like it is with sobbing politicians who bung on public displays of teary virtue signalling to appease/enlist a gullible public willing to fall for the crap.

I think it is established that there are far more dangerous occupations involving a service to community (what occupation doesn't...even train drivers are performing a community service as are Cabbies, as are miners, carpenters.....everyone who works is contributing service to community.)

Maybe SES and Rural Firies (volunteers ?????) are a special category as they are not paid (??????) for what they do....or are they?


I wouldn't mind being a firie, do nothing for 99% of the time and then get labelled a hero and get free sandwiches and bottled water water everytime i put on my hard hat on.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:50pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:20pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.


Why?


Because the media says so.


Sure and all they give a fuq about is selling their product sucking every last drop of blood they can out of anything they have fostered reader interest in. 

A copper death is music to their arsehole ears....just like it is with sobbing politicians who bung on public displays of teary virtue signalling to appease/enlist a gullible public willing to fall for the crap.

I think it is established that there are far more dangerous occupations involving a service to community (what occupation doesn't...even train drivers are performing a community service as are Cabbies, as are miners, carpenters.....everyone who works is contributing service to community.)

Maybe SES and Rural Firies (volunteers ?????) are a special category as they are not paid (??????) for what they do....or are they?


I wouldn't mind being a firie, do nothing for 99% of the time and then get labelled a hero and get free sandwiches and bottled water water everytime i put on my hard hat on.




Garranteed you wouldn't make it through training.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:51pm
Jesus - we all face the nutters who come in here every day.... the horror... the horror.....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Aussie,
Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
You can't fake that.


Really.....have you never seen a movie where someone cries or sobs?



In movies they squeeze a cut onion in front of their eyes to make them cry.
I didn't see any onion.



Nah, they just hire leftys now.
Those carrnts have got tears on tap.

It's like the beerfest for tears.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:53pm
Me old man and one uncle were firies - an uncle a copper ..... the old man was hospitalised twice on the job...  went into a ship's hold filled with gas to rescue crewmen inside, and had a leak in his gas gear... the bloke who went with him got a medal - he got the hospital.... and was he ever pissed off about that...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:55pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:53pm:
Me old man and one uncle were firies - an uncle a copper ..... the old man was hospitalised twice on the job...  went into a ship's hold filled with gas to rescue crewmen inside, and had a leak in his gas gear... the bloke who went with him got a medal - he got the hospital.... and was he ever pissed off about that...



Thankless, hard working, low paid, risky prick of a job.
Hats off to all you mad bastards out there that do this.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Aussie,
Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
You can't fake that.


Yes.  Yes you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuJt81AtY08

He pretends to be a human being - you don't think he can pretend to cry?   ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Johnnie on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:04pm
Getting electrocuted or squashed to death in the line of duty does not make them heroes.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Aussie,
Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
You can't fake that.


Yes.  Yes you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuJt81AtY08

He pretends to be a human being - you don't think he can pretend to cry?   ::)



What a nasty person you are Greggy -
they were genuine tears.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Aussie,
Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
You can't fake that.


Yes.  Yes you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuJt81AtY08

He pretends to be a human being - you don't think he can pretend to cry?   ::)



What a nasty person you are Greggy -
they were genuine tears.


They might have eyes, Bobby ...



... but they can't produce tears.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:28pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.



It's a different work environment.
Most people are compliant with cops.

The danger arises quickly with coppers, and it's always different.
There is no time to fill out risk assessments. That's all done on the fly. That's the training they lack imo, but they're lucky in this country, they don't really need hard core defence training.... Yet.


Dangers on construction sites can be identified and tend to be reoccurring dangers.
If something changes, we sit down and review safe work methods and job safety analyses, we toolbox (talk in a group) about the work to be carried out. We use what they call a risk matrix. What that is is a series of numbers and letters on a graph. It is used for every step of the job to be carried out.
If you end up in the red section.... Rethink your procedures to work the risk down lower. It can be done 99% of the time.
When we're happy and in the green section of the matrix, we all sign on to say we agree to follow the steps and procedures as per the toolbox discussion.
If foelr some reason the task changes, we have time to stop and reassess the situation and again, work the risk to as low as possible.
This all takes time.

If you've got 5.56mm NATO rounds flying around you at random, time is life or death. You've got to act quickly while trying to keep as safe as possible.


Top post there!

You're right.

I'm now left wondering if there's such a thing as a "safe" job nowadays.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:54pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.



It's a different work environment.
Most people are compliant with cops.

The danger arises quickly with coppers, and it's always different.
There is no time to fill out risk assessments. That's all done on the fly. That's the training they lack imo, but they're lucky in this country, they don't really need hard core defence training.... Yet.


Dangers on construction sites can be identified and tend to be reoccurring dangers.
If something changes, we sit down and review safe work methods and job safety analyses, we toolbox (talk in a group) about the work to be carried out. We use what they call a risk matrix. What that is is a series of numbers and letters on a graph. It is used for every step of the job to be carried out.
If you end up in the red section.... Rethink your procedures to work the risk down lower. It can be done 99% of the time.
When we're happy and in the green section of the matrix, we all sign on to say we agree to follow the steps and procedures as per the toolbox discussion.
If foelr some reason the task changes, we have time to stop and reassess the situation and again, work the risk to as low as possible.
This all takes time.

If you've got 5.56mm NATO rounds flying around you at random, time is life or death. You've got to act quickly while trying to keep as safe as possible.


Top post there!

You're right.

I'm now left wondering if there's such a thing as a "safe" job nowadays.



It's a 5 tier system.
Funnily enough, drawn in an upside down triangle.

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/hierarchy-of-controls

Best you can get.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:56pm
Tick

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:41pm
Flip

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:52pm
I have previously linked Channel 7 reporter saying no firearms were registered to that address. The brother lived there for 5 years if he legally owned firearms they would be registered.

Here is the Qld Police commissioner dodging the questions about the illegal firearms at 3min 35s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ccz-ahgFk&t=218s

It has been reported offenders had shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles

If you have a fireams licence when the Highway patrol pull you over they usually ask if you have a gun in the car after doing driving license check. They have that information right down to any cop who checks your name in their computers.

So why did she dodge the question?






Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:25pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.



They said on TV today that they were using .308 rifles.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:25pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.



They said on TV today that they were using .308 rifles.


We will find out in time which media outlet was telling the truth and which one is fake news.

The Coronial inquest should have most of the details i hope we don't have to wait that long.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:01pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.



Maybe a Garand ..... sounds like a semi-auto from reports.... M37 not likely as bolt action Mauser action.... good rifle but ... long heavy barrel, pop-up rear sight... pretty accurate.... something powerful had to take the two cops down first....  .22s not likely or shottie unless very close...

Still leave the question of YTF they would even consider it - all three of them.....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:05pm
.308 covers a lot of ground.... I was certain someone said semi-auto.... anything from a Belgian ten shot NATO round or even a bolt action or M-14 or so.

They sure hit those first two cops hard to bring them down.

Still the question is why.... are people that mad on drugs?

Don't mind the M-14 myself... not on full auto... but I'm a single shot man anyway ....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:14pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.


Or even without guns but can still go looney and become knife wielding etc.

Now… in my naiveness some 4 years or thereabouts ago about “ice”
Like really… how is an elder mummy supposed to know about these modern drugs?
The drugs in my days of yesteryear was Bex !
Okay then marijuana came along. But that’s it!

Well my daughter had this bf whom seemed to show potential in the hospitality industry… but he had a certain gift for getting in with so many ….because he was Sri Lankan but looked aboriginal… he was hassled by cops a lot. My daughter would constantly stick up for him. He came to live with us as daughter was living at home with us at time.
After a couple years… she found out he started on drugs…she caught him out (but I don’t know what at this stage) his persona changed and as she dislikes the use of drugs… she gave fair warning to come clean or she breaks up with him.
Then she does break up.
But at this stage… he is homeless as even his own adoptive mum put a 6 month avo on him.
Oh just great … so I’m stuck with him!
I tried to help him find shared accomodation to get him out but he hardly put in the effort.
My son would say he would come and kick him out but I said he has nowhere to go (yeah I’m way too soft)
Then weird stuff happens… my hubby found this glass pipe on mat near door.
He showed me… I asked what it was.
Hubby asked the guy what’s the idea of this pipe!
He replies he dropped it as he was going to throw it out to quit drugs.

Now do we believe that?
He did have a job on a construction site but injured himself so was stuck in my house! Using up all my internet data!
We had cops come to our house looking for him.
Something about paperwork he needs to pick up from local cop shop.
As he has no car… we live in the green wedge… I offered to go pick it up.

I went in and this big Sarge asks me to go into this small meeting room.
Then he shows me photos of that glass pipe and a little plastic bag of stuff.
“Do you know what this is!” He bellowed at me!
I said I have no idea as I looked puzzled at it.
It’s “ice” he tells me.
Well did he start to blast me for allowing him to stay in my home while he’s on ice and how much danger my life could be in etc etc etc
I was totally taken back.
If that was Sarge’s way of showing his concern I’d hate to see when he’s not so concerned!
I felt so told off and warned … felt like crap but it woke me up to something I knew nothing of…or the potential of our lives in danger with an ice addict in house.

We did finally get him out (the little blood sucking user) and last I heard, even though he’s only in his 40s…. His health has deteriorated: my daughter felt sorry for him and would keep in touch if he was okay etc. eventually hears no more from him.

Sad really… the good potential taken away with drugs. Only path travelled is spiralling downwards.

So when I hear anyone doing out of character stuff like killing innocents like this recent event…I do wonder about  if “ice” is used.
Sarge left a huge imprint in my mind!  >:(


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:27pm
Hi Sophia,
stay away from druggies - they are nothing but trouble.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:25am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.




And no amount of gun reform laws are going to change that fact.


We as humans need to stop picking on the honest citizens and clean up the filth.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:18am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:25am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.




And no amount of gun reform laws are going to change that fact.


We as humans need to stop picking on the honest citizens and clean up the filth.


Just wondering if the illegal firearms trading and ownership issue could be better managed with a much harsher jail sentence. What do you guys reckon?

Title: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am


Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.


Police would come under "Law Enforcement", which obviously isn't in that list Lisa


Ok. Well I've just located this document. It kinda verifies my suspicions ... well Aussie's too in that it's not AS dangerous as we think. Although .... the issue of suicide is still bothering me.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10345329.2020.1784502?journalCode=rcic20

👆 Policing is considered one of the most dangerous and stressful occupations. The role and duties of officers mean that they are more likely to encounter not only accidents, but also assaults. Furthermore, the physical demands and occupational stresses of the job mean that officers are at risk of medical conditions that cause strain on the body such as heart attacks.

This paper examines the current nature of police officer fatalities in Australia. In turn, this paper aims to identify strategies to prevent police fatalities. To do this, the study examined all police officer deaths in Australia between 2002 and 2019 (n = 39). Results revealed three main typologies of police fatalities in Australia: accidents, assaults and health-related fatalities. Accidents accounted for the largest proportion of fatalities, followed by assaults and health fatalities.

Furthermore, the results showed a significant decrease in the number of police fatalities post 2006. These results are discussed in terms of changes to policing policies and practices that may have influenced this decline. Overall, these findings provided valuable insights into the current nature of police fatalities.

These findings have implications for policing authorities in implementing prevention strategies to reduce and prevent officer deaths.


Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:04am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   :-/



There will be an investigation & a coronial enquiry ... it's mandatory.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:20am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:05pm:
.308 covers a lot of ground.... I was certain someone said semi-auto.... anything from a Belgian ten shot NATO round or even a bolt action or M-14 or so.

They sure hit those first two cops hard to bring them down.

Still the question is why.... are people that mad on drugs?

Don't mind the M-14 myself... not on full auto... but I'm a single shot man anyway ....


There were 1,000s of the Chinese SKS 7.62 cal semi autos for sale in the 80's early 90's.

Bet there's still some of them floating around.

1 high calibre, 2 x .22s & a shotgun .... sort of doesn't fit the description of the fire power & how many bullets were flying about.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:43am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.



It's a different work environment.
Most people are compliant with cops.

The danger arises quickly with coppers, and it's always different.
There is no time to fill out risk assessments. That's all done on the fly. That's the training they lack imo, but they're lucky in this country, they don't really need hard core defence training.... Yet.


Dangers on construction sites can be identified and tend to be reoccurring dangers.
If something changes, we sit down and review safe work methods and job safety analyses, we toolbox (talk in a group) about the work to be carried out. We use what they call a risk matrix. What that is is a series of numbers and letters on a graph. It is used for every step of the job to be carried out.
If you end up in the red section.... Rethink your procedures to work the risk down lower. It can be done 99% of the time.
When we're happy and in the green section of the matrix, we all sign on to say we agree to follow the steps and procedures as per the toolbox discussion.
If foelr some reason the task changes, we have time to stop and reassess the situation and again, work the risk to as low as possible.
This all takes time.

If you've got 5.56mm NATO rounds flying around you at random, time is life or death. You've got to act quickly while trying to keep as safe as possible.


Top post there!

You're right.

I'm now left wondering if there's such a thing as a "safe" job nowadays.


You never know when you will encounter some moron who has been radicalised online who might get triggered in the real world and take it out on you...

Anything customer-facing has this undercurrent of danger ever present.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 10:06am

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:20am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:05pm:
.308 covers a lot of ground.... I was certain someone said semi-auto.... anything from a Belgian ten shot NATO round or even a bolt action or M-14 or so.

They sure hit those first two cops hard to bring them down.

Still the question is why.... are people that mad on drugs?

Don't mind the M-14 myself... not on full auto... but I'm a single shot man anyway ....


There were 1,000s of the Chinese SKS 7.62 cal semi autos for sale in the 80's early 90's.

Bet there's still some of them floating around.

1 high calibre, 2 x .22s & a shotgun .... sort of doesn't fit the description of the fire power & how many bullets were flying about.


My thoughts, too. The SKS etc is a shorter round but still good for 200m or so.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 10:34am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:43am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.



It's a different work environment.
Most people are compliant with cops.

The danger arises quickly with coppers, and it's always different.
There is no time to fill out risk assessments. That's all done on the fly. That's the training they lack imo, but they're lucky in this country, they don't really need hard core defence training.... Yet.


Dangers on construction sites can be identified and tend to be reoccurring dangers.
If something changes, we sit down and review safe work methods and job safety analyses, we toolbox (talk in a group) about the work to be carried out. We use what they call a risk matrix. What that is is a series of numbers and letters on a graph. It is used for every step of the job to be carried out.
If you end up in the red section.... Rethink your procedures to work the risk down lower. It can be done 99% of the time.
When we're happy and in the green section of the matrix, we all sign on to say we agree to follow the steps and procedures as per the toolbox discussion.
If foelr some reason the task changes, we have time to stop and reassess the situation and again, work the risk to as low as possible.
This all takes time.

If you've got 5.56mm NATO rounds flying around you at random, time is life or death. You've got to act quickly while trying to keep as safe as possible.


Top post there!

You're right.

I'm now left wondering if there's such a thing as a "safe" job nowadays.


You never know when you will encounter some moron who has been radicalised online who might get triggered in the real world and take it out on you...

Anything customer-facing has this undercurrent of danger ever present.


👆 This post nails something we've yet to name in this topic : the risk of aggression in the workplace.

Quick anecdote : one of my cousins who's a doctor experienced this whilst working a casual shift in Emergency. The POS who turned up (handcuffed mind you and held by 2 police officers the size of front rowers) was out of control thanks to crystal meth.

It all happened quickly but in the space of a minute the POS had bitten both officers and had spat on my cousin.

Long story short .... all 3 professionals had to go on sick leave and stress leave as the POS was HIV positive. Incessant testing every week plus professional counselling plus time off work and ultimately it was the tax payer who paid for it all. And I'm not just referring to the POS who enjoyed free bed and breakfast in jail.

AGGRESSION ----> depression and/or anxiety and/or fear. Even suicide.

Drugs are a significant factor in triggering AGGRESSION. Do not take drugs! Stay away from those bastard things!




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 16th, 2022 at 1:01pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.


Police would come under "Law Enforcement", which obviously isn't in that list Lisa


Ok. Well I've just located this document. It kinda verifies my suspicions ... well Aussie's too in that it's not AS dangerous as we think. Although .... the issue of suicide is still bothering me.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10345329.2020.1784502?journalCode=rcic20

👆 Policing is considered one of the most dangerous and stressful occupations. The role and duties of officers mean that they are more likely to encounter not only accidents, but also assaults. Furthermore, the physical demands and occupational stresses of the job mean that officers are at risk of medical conditions that cause strain on the body such as heart attacks.

This paper examines the current nature of police officer fatalities in Australia. In turn, this paper aims to identify strategies to prevent police fatalities. To do this, the study examined all police officer deaths in Australia between 2002 and 2019 (n = 39). Results revealed three main typologies of police fatalities in Australia: accidents, assaults and health-related fatalities. Accidents accounted for the largest proportion of fatalities, followed by assaults and health fatalities.

Furthermore, the results showed a significant decrease in the number of police fatalities post 2006. These results are discussed in terms of changes to policing policies and practices that may have influenced this decline. Overall, these findings provided valuable insights into the current nature of police fatalities.

These findings have implications for policing authorities in implementing prevention strategies to reduce and prevent officer deaths.


Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 


Do I detect a dose of well overdue cynicism there Gnads?  Is the penny dropping? 



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... the woman was under the control of a controlling bloke... the blokes have history of some weird stuff...

I'll wait this one out...... something fishy ................. guess that's the end of the start of the Race War....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.

Maybe the wife Stacey originally before she married Nathaniel Train.

This how The Brisbane Times reported some of the leadup.


Quote:
Conspiracy theorist Gareth Train bombarded his younger brother Nathaniel’s wife with threatening and vicious messages after she lodged a missing person’s report with NSW Police out of concern for her estranged husband’s welfare.


So Stacey lodged the Missing Persons Report.


Quote:
While working as a primary school principal in north-west NSW, Train had refused to get a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination, the teacher said. His sister-in-law Stacey, whom he had previously been married to, was a teacher in Queensland, also refused to be vaccinated.

Train moved to the north-west NSW town of Walgett from Queensland when he was appointed principal of the town’s primary school in mid-2020, but left after he suffered a heart attack in August 2021. His wife also worked at the school.

When she raised the alarm with police, Walgett officers sent the request for a welfare check directly to Darling Downs police station. When four police arrived at the remote home Gareth Train shared with his wife Stacey, Nathaniel was there too.


Walgett Police? She worked at Walgett ... I don't think so ....

the missing persons report was supposed to be from Dubbo       :o?????

And there's no such place as Darling Downs Police Station.

The 4 coppers sent came from Tara Police Station.

You can't believe anything reported in these papers today. The Journos are hopeless.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/


WTF??

Baptist Church? You find being Baptist a red flag?

Never Muslims....but Baptists???

You want to have another think about that Greg?

Note to everyone else : Baptists are like Presbyterians and Methodists....pretty much like Anglicans. Both brothers who became murderers were problem kids and rebels who left the Baptist Church. Their parents and 2 other siblings remained in the Baptist Church.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:38pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:18am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:25am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
"shotgun a 30-06 rifle and 2x .22 rifles"

Hardly enough to start a war.... but enough to kill two cops and wound a third in an ambush....


I think the neighbor was shot with 30-06 being a single shot kill reports say shotgun was used for final shots on police.

I doubt the police were shot with 30-06 it has longer case than .308 firing same size projectiles.

ICE makes people go batshit crazy which might explain why there was no escape plan.

It's a little scary how many ICE addicts are running around with illegal guns.




And no amount of gun reform laws are going to change that fact.


We as humans need to stop picking on the honest citizens and clean up the filth.


Just wondering if the illegal firearms trading and ownership issue could be better managed with a much harsher jail sentence. What do you guys reckon?




Won't deter them imo, rather it will just congest jails with reformed addicts that most likely will reoffend if they haven't had their psychological outlook on life changed.

They just do not care to begin with, that's the problem.
Meth heads aren't social users, they're immunity to the drug is building with every puff.
It starts out socially, but the user is already in a state of poor mental health, so the continued use just increases in an effort to keep that high going.
That's when the problems start big time.


We need food and agriculture here in this country.
The gov would be better off building farms up and reform them that way.
Give them a direction and purpose in life. Some responsibilities.
The nice human they once were is still inside them. The trick is getting that back out of them and keeping it on the surface.
Spend 5yrs out west working the land, and I don't mean in an air conditioned John Deer, I mean physical Labor. You plow that land with a rotory hoe. Dig holes by hand. Mix concrete by hand. Hard work that has great personal satisfaction when completed.
As they're working they're also being reprogrammed through positive contact with everyone around them.
Most of them would probably hang around. It's better than the streets.
That would be better than locking them up just to have them relapse once released.


You also gotta take down the supply network.
The cooks.
The financiers.
The people that aren't using the drug but making more money than speed cameras out of the drug.
They're the ones you gotta lock away and turf the key into the ocean.
The indo president had the right idea for those people.
Rid the world of them all together.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:42pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   :-/



There will be an investigation & a coronial enquiry ... it's mandatory.



But not a Federal one.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am:
Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 



It looked beaten up and it was taken away on a trailer.

Queensland Police SERT Lenco Bearcat G3 review

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/queensland-police-sert-lenco-bearcat-g3-review/

maximum speed  112 km/hr

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:49pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/


WTF??

Baptist Church? You find being Baptist a red flag?

Never Muslims....but Baptists???

You want to have another think about that Greg?

Note to everyone else : Baptists are like Presbyterians and Methodists....pretty much like Anglicans. Both brothers who became murderers were problem kids and rebels who left the Baptist Church. Their parents and 2 other siblings remained in the Baptist Church.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:51pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
Walgett Police? She worked at Walgett ... I don't think so ....


Did she know Betty?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:51pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/


WTF??

Baptist Church? You find being Baptist a red flag?

Never Muslims....but Baptists???

You want to have another think about that Greg?

Note to everyone else : Baptists are like Presbyterians and Methodists....pretty much like Anglicans. Both brothers who became murderers were problem kids and rebels who left the Baptist Church. Their parents and 2 other siblings remained in the Baptist Church.



FFS it wasn't the Baptist Church.

Here's Ron & his 2 other children running this show.... The Christian Independant Ministries

They're Happy Clappers.
Ron_Trains_Church.jpg (95 KB | 8 )

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
Walgett Police? She worked at Walgett ... I don't think so ....


Did she know Betty?




Geez that woman played that part well.
Was her hubbies name Stan?
I can't remember.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:53pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/


WTF??

Baptist Church? You find being Baptist a red flag?

Never Muslims....but Baptists???

You want to have another think about that Greg?

Note to everyone else : Baptists are like Presbyterians and Methodists....pretty much like Anglicans. Both brothers who became murderers were problem kids and rebels who left the Baptist Church. Their parents and 2 other siblings remained in the Baptist Church.



FFS it wasn't the Baptist Church.

Here's Ron & his 2 other children running this show.... The Christian Independant Ministries

They're Happy Clappers.


Just like Morrison.

"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."



Not Baptists for a long time.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ronald-train-031a04182#:~:text=Ronald%20Train%20%2D%20Pastor%20%2D%20CIFT%20Ministries%20%7C%20LinkedIn

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:55pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
Walgett Police? She worked at Walgett ... I don't think so ....


Did she know Betty?




Geez that woman played that part well.
Was her hubbies name Stan?
I can't remember.


Suspicious Stan

Stan arrives unexpectedly from Walgett, convinced Betty is seeing another man. Jenny's elation at being allowed to get a new pet turns to horror when the pet goes missing.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am:
Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 



It looked beaten up and it was taken away on a trailer.

Queensland Police SERT Lenco Bearcat G3 review

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/queensland-police-sert-lenco-bearcat-g3-review/

maximum speed  112 km/hr


These 2 brothers were apparently very unhinged BACK as teenagers. They were control freaks as adults and very abusive. Reports are now emerging about how they abused Stacey (their shared wife 😳) into submission and even harmed animals in front of school children.

These red flags should have been reported and actioned.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:55pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
Walgett Police? She worked at Walgett ... I don't think so ....


Did she know Betty?




Geez that woman played that part well.
Was her hubbies name Stan?
I can't remember.


Suspicious Stan

Stan arrives unexpectedly from Walgett, convinced Betty is seeing another man. Jenny's elation at being allowed to get a new pet turns to horror when the pet goes missing.



Cheers for that.
I loved that show.
Such a shame he was a monster to those kids.
Can't watch it now.  :'(

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am:
Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 



It looked beaten up and it was taken away on a trailer.

Queensland Police SERT Lenco Bearcat G3 review

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/queensland-police-sert-lenco-bearcat-g3-review/

maximum speed  112 km/hr


These 2 brothers were apparently very unhinged BACK as teenagers. They were control freaks as adults and very abusive. Reports are now emerging about how they abused Stacey (their shared wife 😳) into submission and even harmed animals in front of school children.

These red flags should have been reported and actioned.



What does that say about the risk assessment the cops did before going in?    :-[

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."



Not Baptists for a long time.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ronald-train-031a04182#:~:text=Ronald%20Train%20%2D%20Pastor%20%2D%20CIFT%20Ministries%20%7C%20LinkedIn


The 3 arseholes WERE Baptists ffs initially. Greg is right!

The happy clapping church of the Train family came well after these 2 rebel brothers left the Baptist church (and who then started happily clapping the same bird)!!


Mr and Mrs Train and their 2 other children remained happy clappers.

The 2 rebel boys and their shared wife became happy cop murderers!

Ok?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:10pm
The cops were lured into a trap:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11543639/Wieambilla-shooting-Cop-killer-Nathaniel-Train-plans-build-home-school-teacher-partner.html

Ms De Jager said she later received a message from his older brother Gareth who sent her abusive text messages for bringing police into the matter. 

Nathaniel remained in contact with some family members but had not been seen since December last year after he quit his job as principal of the Walgett Community College Primary School.

Police issued a public appeal for information following the missing persons report that was made on December 4 - which prompted a phone call suggesting he was north of the border in Wieambilla.

Detectives now suspect the mysterious phone call that lured police to the property
came from the killers, obsessed with prepping for doomsday scenarios. 


'They are looking at this possibility that they called NSW police and told them they 'think they know where he is',' a police source told The Australian.

'NSW police acted on that and asked their Queensland counterparts to look into it as part of a routine missing persons' inquiry.


'He was the bait.'

Daily Mail Australia has contacted NSW and Queensland Police for comment on the line of inquiry. 

The development comes as new evidence suggests the ambush may have been planned.

Detectives scouring the property in recent days have uncovered the terrifying extent of the 'death trap' set up by the paranoid trio - who were also in a bizarre love triangle.

Investigators told Daily Mail Australia they established a 'kill zone' where they planned to trap any officers who came to the home with an electronic trip wire giving them time to get into their camo gear and load up their weapons.

Police found holes in the siege house walls and so many bullet casings from the 90-minute firefight that they were 'setting off metal detectors like pinball machines'.

An elaborate 'extensive virtual surveillance box' was also set up by the murderous Train trio. 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:10pm:
The cops were lured into a trap:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11543639/Wieambilla-shooting-Cop-killer-Nathaniel-Train-plans-build-home-school-teacher-partner.html

Ms De Jager said she later received a message from his older brother Gareth who sent her abusive text messages for bringing police into the matter. 

Nathaniel remained in contact with some family members but had not been seen since December last year after he quit his job as principal of the Walgett Community College Primary School.

Police issued a public appeal for information following the missing persons report that was made on December 4 - which prompted a phone call suggesting he was north of the border in Wieambilla.

Detectives now suspect the mysterious phone call that lured police to the property
came from the killers, obsessed with prepping for doomsday scenarios. 


'They are looking at this possibility that they called NSW police and told them they 'think they know where he is',' a police source told The Australian.

'NSW police acted on that and asked their Queensland counterparts to look into it as part of a routine missing persons' inquiry.


'He was the bait.'

Daily Mail Australia has contacted NSW and Queensland Police for comment on the line of inquiry. 

The development comes as new evidence suggests the ambush may have been planned.

Detectives scouring the property in recent days have uncovered the terrifying extent of the 'death trap' set up by the paranoid trio - who were also in a bizarre love triangle.

Investigators told Daily Mail Australia they established a 'kill zone' where they planned to trap any officers who came to the home with an electronic trip wire giving them time to get into their camo gear and load up their weapons.

Police found holes in the siege house walls and so many bullet casings from the 90-minute firefight that they were 'setting off metal detectors like pinball machines'.

An elaborate 'extensive virtual surveillance box' was also set up by the murderous Train trio. 





I was wondering who'd made that call.
My hunch was they did themselves.

It was a deliberate suicide mission.
Dogs.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm

Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:39pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 8:50am:
I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?


Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.


If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that?


He went there to investigate a fire, not gunshots.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm:
[quote author=Gnads link=1670839340/450#450 date=1671145244]

Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 



It looked beaten up and it was taken away on a trailer.

Queensland Police SERT Lenco Bearcat G3 review

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/queensland-police-sert-lenco-bearcat-g3-review/

maximum speed  112 km/hr


These 2 brothers were apparently very unhinged BACK as teenagers. They were control freaks as adults and very abusive. Reports are now emerging about how they abused Stacey (their shared wife 😳) into submission and even harmed animals in front of school children.

These red flags should have been reported and actioned.



What does that say about the risk assessment the cops did before going in?    :-[/quote]

There probably was none ... The Sargent at Tara cop shop must be feeling a bit embarrassed right now - sending green rookies out there ... perhaps the Sarg should have gone with them, give them a bit of training on the job



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:40pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:35pm:
I was wondering who'd made that call.
My hunch was they did themselves.

It was a deliberate suicide mission.
Dogs.



It was a suicide mission just like terrorists.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:40pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:43pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:39pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1670839340/477#477 date=1671166699]

What does that say about the risk assessment the cops did before going in?    :-[/quote]

There probably was none ... The Sargent at Tara cop shop must be feeling a bit embarrassed right now - sending green rookies out there ... perhaps the Sarg should have gone with them, give them a bit of training on the job.



He must be feeling so bad today but he didn't know.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:49pm
Apparently, we are not grown up enough to see/know the facts.  Fuq this suppression.

Seems to me it might be all about tin plating copper arsehole.

Link.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:53pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:49pm:
Apparently, we are not grown up enough to see/know the facts.  Fuq this suppression.

Seems to me it might be all about tin plating copper arsehole.

Link.





Media urged to not re-post video

The Queensland Police Service issued a statement saying the Trains footage "is distressing to the families of those involved and police".

"We respectfully request media outlets, including social media platforms and traditional media outlets, to remove this content from their platforms and discontinue broadcast, if they have not already," the statement said.

"We also urge members of the public not to re-post or share this content."
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ABC News has chosen not to show the video or details of the accounts it was posted on. However, comments from the Trains that outline their apparent motives and actions have been included.

Queensland Police Union president Ian Leavers said the videos should not be shared by media outlets as "that is exactly what these cold-blooded executioners wanted".

"They wanted notoriety, publicity and fame for their evil, deranged and insane views and they should be de-platformed immediately and not have their evil amplified," Mr Leavers said.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese also encouraged media outlets and others to not republish the Trains' recordings "in any way".

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:54pm

The video will be on the web by the end of the day   ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:08pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


And what about the rest of the post?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:54pm:
The video will be on the web by the end of the day   ;D




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11544493/Wieambilla-shooting-American-conspiracy-theorist-says-touch-Gareth-Stacey-Train.html


In the eight-minute video, posted on Monday afternoon just three hours before the siege began, the woman reads from an apocalyptic biblical book called '2 Esdras'.

The book was removed from the Bible in the 1880s, and talks about a 'future age' which will one day replace the present world order - as well as justifying why God lets evil happen in the world.



Bible, King James Version
2 Esdras



https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=3609614



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.


According to that statement, it seems that the neighbour was investigating the sounds of gunfire, perhaps mistakenly thinking of fire creating popping sounds. Two of the four police in attendance fled the scene. The fire was started to draw the officer(s) out of the bushland. Two officers were already shot dead by that point.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:39pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1670839340/477#477 date=1671166699]

What does that say about the risk assessment the cops did before going in?    :-[/quote]

There probably was none ... The Sargent at Tara cop shop must be feeling a bit embarrassed right now - sending green rookies out there ... perhaps the Sarg should have gone with them, give them a bit of training on the job.



He must be feeling so bad today but he didn't know.


He/(she?) should get the sack then

That Katrina Carroll should be sacked too, and get a tough bloke to do that job ... also sack the Police minister for not providing more funding for research into Police tactics and risk assessment - for all jobs

Silly Katrina Carroll said it was a "normal job" [to go to that property] ... except it wasn't in the big city where she comfortably lives and works



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:39pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.


According to that statement, it seems that the neighbour was investigating the sounds of gunfire, perhaps mistakenly thinking of fire creating popping sounds. Two of the four police in attendance fled the scene. The fire was started to draw the officer(s) out of the bushland. Two officers were already shot dead by that point.


Really?  Amazing revelation.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:45pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Really?  Amazing revelation.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:52pm
I wonder what it was that changed them from being radical leftwing teachers, to being violent sovereign citizens? They could've had all the social security handouts they'd ever want. They should have remained lefties


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:53pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Really?  Amazing revelation.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.


Read the fuqqin' Thread!  All that has been done to death already.

Get it?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:17pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:49pm:
Apparently, we are not grown up enough to see/know the facts.  Fuq this suppression.

Seems to me it might be all about tin plating copper arsehole.

Link.



I'm finding it hard to accept that the woman would take up a .22 ..... beggars belief that someone would do that in a 'shootout' ... TF are y6ou going to do with a .22? ..... but ... who knows.

I'm guessing she was shot in the 'hundreds of rounds' exchanged or perhaps even sniped... wrong place, wrong time.. wrong bloke(s)...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:21pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:52pm:
I wonder what it was that changed them from being radical leftwing teachers, to being violent sovereign citizens? They could've had all the social security handouts they'd ever want. They should have remained lefties


Happy clapping anti-vaxxers - that's Right-Wing Extremism 101


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.



Poor bastard.
Thatsfukktttt...  >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:24pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.



Poor bastard.
Thatsfukktttt...  >:( >:( >:(


Yep.

These happy clapping anti-vaxxers were real animals.

Thank f*#k they're dead.

The only problem is, you just know there's more of them out there.




(And by 'out there' I mean in Queensland)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:26pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:08pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


And what about the rest of the post?




Sorry UnSub...
Yes, agree with the lot.


I just highlighted that as it is part of the story.
Agree with the lot pal.
Like I've posted.
I lost good friends to this drug.
It's my pet hate tbh.
The people that make and distribute it could all die tomorrow and I wouldn't shed a tear.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:27pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Really?  Amazing revelation.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.


Read the fuqqin' Thread!  All that has been done to death already.

Get it?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Whoa back, Pilgrim - doesn't mean any of the conjecture put out before was right or that he shouldn't express his views...  it's not like we're going to ever see a definitive answer to all that happened.  The best witnesses would be the two surviving cops.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:24pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.



Poor bastard.
Thatsfukktttt...  >:( >:( >:(


Yep.

These happy clapping anti-vaxxers were real animals.

Thank f*#k they're dead.

The only problem is, you just know there's more of them out there.




(And by 'out there' I mean in Queensland)



Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by thegreatdivide on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.




Is that a yes or a no?  ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Really?  Amazing revelation.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.


Read the fuqqin' Thread!  All that has been done to death already.

Get it?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Whoa back, Pilgrim - doesn't mean any of the conjecture put out before was right or that he shouldn't express his views...  it's not like we're going to ever see a definitive answer to all that happened.  The best witnesses would be the two surviving cops.


One who ran away into the bush TO SAFETY and one who drove away TO SAFETY.  Yep......they'd be the best witnesses for sure.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Frank on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:44pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.


That's enough eyewatering idiocy, Bbwian.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by thegreatdivide on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:46pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.




Is that a yes or a no?  ;D



I'll leave you to decide where your sympathies lay.....the Trains were certainly far right terrorists, like Tim McVeigh. 

The point is , we must understand where this extreme Libertarian ideology comes from.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by thegreatdivide on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:49pm

Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:44pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.


That's enough eyewatering idiocy, Bbwian.


Care to make your case?

Eg, that 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:50pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.


TBH - I read that 'sovereign people' line yesterday... still waiting to hear what they actually meant... even if they seceded from Australia that in no way justifies warring on those cops.. you secede and then hopefully peacefully co-exist - not start shooting at the first sign of authority.

Did they mean as in never having conceded their sovereignty despite a lifetime of being advantaged by the 'opposition' way of life?  Was this some 'race war' thing?

Sounds like every well-being check will need to be done as a platoon sized op with machine gun and sniper teams ready to go (BTW - in Carentan in BoB, the machine guns should have been ready the moment the troops went to run to those houses - not after - I thought Winters was a tactical genius - somebody fiddled the continuity of the filming therefor dramatic effect, just like WWS with Mel) and all done via a loud hailer....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:50pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:46pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.




Is that a yes or a no?  ;D



I'll leave you to decide where your sympathies lay.....the Trains were certainly far right terrorists, like Tim McVeigh. 

The point is , we must understand where this extreme Libertarian ideology comes from.



I believe you're missing one essential ingredient.
Meth.
These people can hold those idealogs all they like.
Add meth, you've got a recipe for disaster.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:53pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:46pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.




Is that a yes or a no?  ;D



I'll leave you to decide where your sympathies lay.....the Trains were certainly far right terrorists, like Tim McVeigh. 

The point is , we must understand where this extreme Libertarian ideology comes from.


How do you know that?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:55pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:46pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.




Is that a yes or a no?  ;D



I'll leave you to decide where your sympathies lay.....the Trains were certainly far right terrorists, like Tim McVeigh. 

The point is , we must understand where this extreme Libertarian ideology comes from.


How do you know that?



They don't.

Illigal use of firearms are far right.
Didn't you know that?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:59pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:46pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.




Is that a yes or a no?  ;D



I'll leave you to decide where your sympathies lay.....the Trains were certainly far right terrorists, like Tim McVeigh. 

The point is , we must understand where this extreme Libertarian ideology comes from.


How do you know that?


Happy clapping anti-vaxxers.

That's Right-Wing Extremism 101

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:04pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Stupid Cockhead?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Kat on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:23pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/


WTF??

Baptist Church? You think that the parents of these 2 guys being Baptist is a red flag?

It's NEVER Muslims funnily enough....but Baptist parents 😐

You want to have another think about that Greg?


Note to everyone else : Baptists are like Presbyterians and Methodists....pretty much like Anglicans. Both brothers who became murderers were problem kids and rebels who left the Baptist Church. In effect they became ATHEISTS!

Their parents and 2 other siblings remained in the Baptist Church. Later on they became happy clappers. 


Greg aren't you an Atheist? Well be careful! Red flag 🚩

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:27pm

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


* Massacre = more than 5 people (apparently).

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:34pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/


WTF??

Baptist Church? You think that the parents of these 2 guys being Baptist is a red flag?

It's NEVER Muslims funnily enough....but Baptist parents 😐

You want to have another think about that Greg?


Note to everyone else : Baptists are like Presbyterians and Methodists....pretty much like Anglicans. Both brothers who became murderers were problem kids and rebels who left the Baptist Church. In effect they became ATHEISTS!

Their parents and 2 other siblings remained in the Baptist Church. Later on they became happy clappers. 


Greg aren't you an Atheist? Well be careful! Red flag 🚩


I'm not sure.

I drift from atheist to agnostic on any given day.

I'm spiritual though.  Much more so since I held my father's hand as he left his body earlier this year.

That had a profound effect on me.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:35pm

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


Ah - now we know....  sounds to me they were Whatevers Without A Cause...  mad as....

Still can't see that sheila being so dopey as to take up what had to be a.22 to fight a war... I reckon she was killed in the crossfire.... or maybe given the Willie Boy treatment so she could not be taken prisoner...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFNQFCVNq1M


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:59pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:49pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:44pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.


That's enough eyewatering idiocy, Bbwian.


Care to make your case?

Eg, that 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded.


They're deluded in one sense ....

It's impossible to be a sovereign citizen if you have an official birth certificate... whoever has a birth certificate or naturalization papers can't call themselves "sovereign", only illegal immigrants can do that in Australia. So those three gun toting leftie teachers were deluding themselves if they took on the self proclaimed title of "sovereign citizen" ... they were citizens of the State they were born in, and subject to it ... I'd say they had official birth certificates

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:20pm
Dang - Lefty took a powder about the time this bloke vanished off the radar.... Lefty had two kids... at one time he was renovating or something some house... reckoned he had some 'open marriage'...... internet only functioned during office hours...... had issues with his 'Nazi' father .... had delusions that everyone was out to kill his kids and such... a Nazi under every bush and behind every bus stop bench...

Wonder if he was one of those Trains....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRtvqT_wMeY

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:23pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:49pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:44pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.


That's enough eyewatering idiocy, Bbwian.


Care to make your case?

Eg, that 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded.


They're deluded in one sense ....

It's impossible to be a sovereign citizen if you have an official birth certificate... whoever has a birth certificate or naturalization papers can't call themselves "sovereign", only illegal immigrants can do that in Australia. So those three gun toting leftie teachers were deluding themselves if they took on the self proclaimed title of "sovereign citizen" ... they were citizens of the State they were born in, and subject to it ... I'd say they had official birth certificates


And countless other associations with the state they lived in etc.... state in the general term (no capital s) .. student loans require 'are you an Australian citizen' .... same as Spear Chuckers sign when they take their dimi/rent/pay ...

Sadly for all these ideologues - there is no separation from the state unless you secede in entirety and give away all the benefits of that state... to date nobody has done that here.... all have, at some time, signed away any 'sovereignty' - though in a sense we all remain sovereign individuals who reside within the state by our own standards and values - some of which are 'right' and some 'wrong' ....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am:
Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 



It looked beaten up and it was taken away on a trailer.

Queensland Police SERT Lenco Bearcat G3 review

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/queensland-police-sert-lenco-bearcat-g3-review/

maximum speed  112 km/hr


Rubbish ... it had some impact marks on the bullet proof windscreen ...

that probably made it unroadworthy to drive back to Brisbane.

The white landcruiser wagon in front of it I couldn't see a bullet hole in.

Do you need a Labrador & white cane?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Xavier on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:45pm
Gee. If those Cop killers wore Ned Kelly armor - they would be cultural heroes of all the Unionists.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:47pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:47pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:00am:
Significant decrease in Police fatalities since 2006?

Could that be because proportionally we actually have less Police?

I saw a person tracking the movements of their stolen Land Cruiser ute for the past 2 weeks- west of Toowoomba in towns near where the shootings just occurred ... Chinchilla & Dalby ... they even had service station cctv footage...the thieves were bold as brass - hadn't even changed the number plates

it was reported to Police & the owner was advised the Police didn't have the resources(man power) to apprehend these thieves....

yet 4 coppers go to a property on a missing persons & then 3hrs 42mins later a 13/16 man special emergency response team arrive in an armour plated Bear Cat vehicle to shoot it out with the Train nutters shooting them dead by 10.30pm.

Mind you they didn't even check on the neighbour laying in the road to see if he was still alive.

Lack of resources ey? 



It looked beaten up and it was taken away on a trailer.

Queensland Police SERT Lenco Bearcat G3 review

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/queensland-police-sert-lenco-bearcat-g3-review/

maximum speed  112 km/hr


These 2 brothers were apparently very unhinged BACK as teenagers. They were control freaks as adults and very abusive. Reports are now emerging about how they abused Stacey (their shared wife 😳) into submission and even harmed animals in front of school children.

These red flags should have been reported and actioned.


Bullshit ... apart from 1 school in Cairns he had glowing reports from parents & children.

Hence he was observed as mild mannered & quiet.

That doesn't mean something wasn't festering underneath.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:49pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."



Not Baptists for a long time.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ronald-train-031a04182#:~:text=Ronald%20Train%20%2D%20Pastor%20%2D%20CIFT%20Ministries%20%7C%20LinkedIn


The 3 arseholes WERE Baptists ffs initially. Greg is right!

The happy clapping church of the Train family came well after these 2 rebel brothers left the Baptist church (and who then started happily clapping the same bird)!!


Mr and Mrs Train and their 2 other children remained happy clappers.

The 2 rebel boys and their shared wife became happy cop murderers!

Ok?



phukkk off .. show me a link that says that they were raised in the Baptist faith/church.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:57pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:08pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


And what about the rest of the post?


Looking for a pat on the back are you?  ::) FFS

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:52pm:
I wonder what it was that changed them from being radical leftwing teachers, to being violent sovereign citizens? They could've had all the social security handouts they'd ever want. They should have remained lefties


Happy clapping anti-vaxxers - that's Right-Wing Extremism 101


It's not 100% ... lot of woke leftie happy clappers too.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.


Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested  liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.


Latham had nothing to do with it you twat.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:06pm

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


Horse shyte

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Xavier on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:06pm
Just smack him in the head Gnads. ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by issuevoter on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:10pm
This horrible situation has brought forth a great deal of sympathy and support for the police force from the general public, which is a sign of a healthy and realistic majority that rejects the whining of Leftist anti-police rhetoric which is so common among those who would otherwise deride conspiracy theorists. You people cannot have it both ways.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Xavier on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?

Says he who brags about himself not needing GoogleMaps, etc on another Topic. ::) Wanker Alert!!!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:44pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:45pm:
Gee. If those Cop killers wore Ned Kelly armor - they would be cultural heroes of all the Unionists.


Poor taste Scab.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Xavier on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:47pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:44pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:45pm:
Gee. If those Cop killers wore Ned Kelly armor - they would be cultural heroes of all the Unionists.


Poor taste Scab.

It's still a meal of truth to it wether you like the taste or not.
Btw - chicks dig scars more than they do tattoos.  ;)

America: Underpaid and Unions are good.
Australia: Overpaid and Unions are bad.

:P

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown

The Hillcrest jumping castle tragedy was in TASMANIA

it was an accident.... not deliberate.

Here's a straw to clutch at.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:51pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown


Those numbers seem to be somewhat lower than the Queensland massacres.

Remember the eight kids killed in Cairns?

Has that happened anywhere else in Australia?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown


Those numbers seem to be somewhat lower than the Queensland massacres.

Remember the eight kids killed in Cairns?

Has that happened anywhere else in Australia?

I'm curious.


Catherine Folbigg - 4 infant children - NSW

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:56pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown


Those numbers seem to be somewhat lower than the Queensland massacres.

Remember the eight kids killed in Cairns?

Has that happened anywhere else in Australia?

I'm curious.


Catherine Folbigg - 4 infant children - NSW


My maths ain't that good.

Is four more or less than eight?

Is it half?   :-/

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown


Those numbers seem to be somewhat lower than the Queensland massacres.

Remember the eight kids killed in Cairns?

Has that happened anywhere else in Australia?

I'm curious.


Catherine Folbigg - 4 infant children - NSW


My maths ain't that good.

Is four more or less than eight?

Is it half?   :-/


Bindoon ring any bells for you?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:10pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown


Those numbers seem to be somewhat lower than the Queensland massacres.

Remember the eight kids killed in Cairns?

Has that happened anywhere else in Australia?

I'm curious.


Catherine Folbigg - 4 infant children - NSW


My maths ain't that good.

Is four more or less than eight?

Is it half?   :-/


Bindoon ring any bells for you?


Sure does.

Many drunken weekends at Bindoon Rock.

My band played at this one:



Was awesome!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Captain Caveman on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown


Those numbers seem to be somewhat lower than the Queensland massacres.

Remember the eight kids killed in Cairns?

Has that happened anywhere else in Australia?

I'm curious.


Catherine Folbigg - 4 infant children - NSW


My maths ain't that good.

Is four more or less than eight?

Is it half?   :-/



Why do the overall numbers matter so much to you?
Is it a competition?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:29am

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Really?  Amazing revelation.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.


Read the fuqqin' Thread!  All that has been done to death already.

Get it?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


You should be telling that to greggary. Not me.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:34am

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:40pm:
One who ran away into the bush TO SAFETY and one who drove away TO SAFETY.  Yep......they'd be the best witnesses for sure.


They would be the only real witnesses to what happened. And if there was anyone else that saw the events as they unfolded, they too would be good witnesses to the event. If the police's body cameras were on during the event, that would help with the recollection of what happened.

The fact that two officers fled for safety does not invalidate what they witnessed on the day. They might be feeling shame for leaving their colleagues to die. But, they had their own perspective of what happened.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:39am

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 4:08pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41am:
If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.


You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.




I'd say you are 100% correct there.


And what about the rest of the post?


Looking for a pat on the back are you?  ::) FFS


Well, yeah. I think I probably have the best understanding of what went on that day from the perspective of someone that did not witness what happened. The rest of the posters here seem to be focusing on their made-up theories or even have an idea that police and neighbours did what they did for nonsensical reasonings. I will be the first to admit that my surmise is wrong, when the facts of the matter are presented.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Kat on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:18am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:27pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


* Massacre = more than 5 people (apparently).


Nice evasion attempt there.

Shame it didn't work.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Kat on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:27am

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


Horse shyte


No, Nutbag.

Fact.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:10pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


Is Cairns in Queensland?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So.... wanna dig up the histories of the states I mentioned ... if not you cherry picking & can get phukked.


That's a 'yes', yes?

I'd dig it up if I could, but I can't find where eight kids were killed in one go in any other state.

Only Queensland.

Found something called the 'Hillcrest Murders' though.

Any idea what that might be about?   :-/


Is Hillcrest in Queensland?  My geography isn't that good.

What about 'The Whiskey Au Go Go Fire in Fortitude Valley'?

The Whiskey Au Go Go fire was a fire that occurred at 2.08 am on Thursday 8 March 1973, in the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, Australia that killed 15 people.

Again, my geography isn't that good.

Is Brisbane anywhere near Queensland?



You're joking right?

Hoddel st massacre? 7 deaths.

Man Monis - Sydney Lindt Cafe seige - 3 deaths 18 hostages.

1978 Hilton Bombing in Sydney

You're just being a clown


Those numbers seem to be somewhat lower than the Queensland massacres.

Remember the eight kids killed in Cairns?

Has that happened anywhere else in Australia?

I'm curious.


Catherine Folbigg - 4 infant children - NSW


My maths ain't that good.

Is four more or less than eight?

Is it half?   :-/


Bindoon ring any bells for you?


Sure does.

Many drunken weekends at Bindoon Rock.

My band played at this one:



Was awesome!


Maybe you should have spent some time in the Bindoon Boys Town ... might have strengthened your character.  ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Kat on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:34am

issuevoter wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:10pm:
This horrible situation has brought forth a great deal of sympathy and support for the police force from the general public, which is a sign of a healthy and realistic majority that rejects the whining of Leftist anti-police rhetoric which is so common among those who would otherwise deride conspiracy theorists. You people cannot have it both ways.


So - police brutality, over-reach, and avoidable killings by police are figments of the imagination?

Sounds like you need a good dose of reality.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:35am

Kat wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


Horse shyte


No, Nutbag.

Fact.


Your facts are divers swimming around in the ocean collecting shark farts for spirit levels.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Kat on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:45am

Gnads wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:35am:

Kat wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


Horse shyte


No, Nutbag.

Fact.


Your facts are divers swimming around in the ocean collecting shark farts for spirit levels.


No - they're facts.

And, as such, they don't really care whether you like them or not.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:35am

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."



Not Baptists for a long time.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ronald-train-031a04182#:~:text=Ronald%20Train%20%2D%20Pastor%20%2D%20CIFT%20Ministries%20%7C%20LinkedIn


The 3 arseholes WERE Baptists ffs initially. Greg is right!

The happy clapping church of the Train family came well after these 2 rebel brothers left the Baptist church (and who then started happily clapping the same bird)!!


Mr and Mrs Train and their 2 other children remained happy clappers.

The 2 rebel boys and their shared wife became happy cop murderers!

Ok?



phukkk off .. show me a link that says that they were raised in the Baptist faith/church.


YOU phukkkkkkkkkk off!

Their old dad SAID so! He even SAID he was the church minister at the time too!

Aussie Baptist people are like Presbyterians - harmless, law abiding and very lovely quiet people. Their church services and weddings are very boring unfortunately! No dancing or happy clapping are allowed. Oh and no alcohol either!

I grew up in these Christian churches myself so I knew (and still know) people who are in ministry positions. And I talk to them all the time too!

Bottom line? GGF Gnads!




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:44am

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Queensland

Baptist church

Anti-vaxxers

Happy clappers


How many red flags do you need?



Oh Gweggy ... do phark off further down the street.

There's more nasty shyte occurred in NSW, Vic & Sth Aust than QLD.

Might look into WAs criminal history....

hope you don't get a mention.  ::)


On 19 December 2014, at 11:20 a.m., police were called to 34 Murray Street in the Cairns suburb of Manoora in Queensland Australia, where eight children were found dead.

The victims were aged between 18 months and 14 years.

The bodies, with stab wounds, were discovered by the children's 20-year-old brother.

Neighbours reported that fighting could be heard from the house the night before and in the early hours of the morning.


Queensland: 'Beautiful one day, child massacre the next'.


Yeah she was Aboriginal. 


👆 Groggy just got seriously pwned <--- wounded online. We need a medic and a stretcher here ASAP.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:40am
Still can't find coppers specifically listed.

Most dangerous jobs in Australia:

Link.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:42am

Kat wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:45am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:35am:

Kat wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 5:52pm:
Corrected:-  "Eg, that not all 'sovereign citizens' ideologues are NOT deluded. "

I'm a SC..... I wouldn't call myself deluded over anything.... more a realist.... you are using the terminology and wording of an extremist - as in someone who only sees things in extremes... such as the Trains were extreme right wing whatevers.... they could just as easily be extreme left wing whatevers .... or just plain extreme whatevers ... whatevers without a cause......

Your mindset is showing...............


Yes, but the extreme left do things like blow-up sub-stations and the like.

They don't generally massacre cops.


Horse shyte


No, Nutbag.

Fact.


Your facts are divers swimming around in the ocean collecting shark farts for spirit levels.


No - they're facts.

And, as such, they don't really care whether you like them or not.


;D they don't? really?

What an asinine remark.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:46am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:13pm:
We're beginning to hear the Usual Suspect stories.... ....


Yep.

Baptist Church.

Anti-vaxxers.

The warning signs were there.

Has anyone seen Sir lastnail?   :-/


WTF??

Baptist Church? You find being Baptist a red flag?

Never Muslims....but Baptists???

You want to have another think about that Greg?

Note to everyone else : Baptists are like Presbyterians and Methodists....pretty much like Anglicans. Both brothers who became murderers were problem kids and rebels who left the Baptist Church. Their parents and 2 other siblings remained in the Baptist Church.


I think it's religious thinking in general.  The notion that there is no proof therefore you MUST believe.  If you can't believe without proof you don't have faith, and that's a sin.

We can see in the US how this mentality of belief first, facts never, can result in things like shootings in pizza parlors or domestic terrorists storming the capitol.

Religious leaders often foster this way of "thinking" from young, in children defenseless to the brainwashing which lets them be exploited by those within the church, or those like the tards behind the Q larp.

It's not to say parishioners as individuals are bad or evil, often far from it given some of the good they can do within their communities, but they're ripe for radicalisation, be it via their faith or some tool bag on the Internet spinning an easy to understand explanation about why there are contrails behind a passenger jet that doesn't involve differences in air pressure or condensation in the air and is instead a secret Government mind control project that is much easier to understand for those failed by the education system.  Then it's just a quick pivot to "the jews are behind it" and they're signing up for the Proud Boys.

The reader already believes and then goes looking for proof, rather than discovering a fact and letting that guide their opinions.

This is when we get photos of the interior of water bombing planes being shared as proof of chemtrails.

They already believe first, they have the "faith", and then go looking for proof, like "miracles", and because they already believe they're right, anything can be proof.

And anything that doesn't support what they believe is easily dismissed as part of the conspiracy, "what they want you to believe", or fake news etc.

It is sadly, in this day and age with so many people willing to exploit others for profit, religiosity is a red flag, some worse than others, but none great.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:47am
Were the kids estranged from their preacher father because they no longer believed in religion?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:49am

Aussie wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:40am:
Still can't find coppers specifically listed.

Most dangerous jobs in Australia:

Link.


This is the closest I can get to. It's better than nothing.


https://theconversation.com/amp/road-crashes-assaults-and-being-spat-on-the-dangers-facing-australian-police-in-the-line-of-duty-137594

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Gnads on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:07am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:35am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."



Not Baptists for a long time.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ronald-train-031a04182#:~:text=Ronald%20Train%20%2D%20Pastor%20%2D%20CIFT%20Ministries%20%7C%20LinkedIn


The 3 arseholes WERE Baptists ffs initially. Greg is right!

The happy clapping church of the Train family came well after these 2 rebel brothers left the Baptist church (and who then started happily clapping the same bird)!!


Mr and Mrs Train and their 2 other children remained happy clappers.

The 2 rebel boys and their shared wife became happy cop murderers!

Ok?



phukkk off .. show me a link that says that they were raised in the Baptist faith/church.


YOU phukkkkkkkkkk off!

Their old dad SAID so! He even SAID he was the church minister at the time too!

Aussie Baptist people are like Presbyterians - harmless, law abiding and very lovely quiet people. Their church services and weddings are very boring unfortunately! No dancing or happy clapping are allowed. Oh and no alcohol either!

I grew up in these Christian churches myself so I knew (and still know) people who are in ministry positions. And I talk to them all the time too!

Bottom line? GGF Gnads!



I posted this before - he has belonged to this church organisation & retired from it as a Pastor... not the Baptist Church.

Whether or not he was once a Baptist is irrelevant.

Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches

none are connected to the C of E or Baptist.

It was formed in 2002 not long after Nathanial & Stacey were married.

https://www.fiec.org.au/

If you're a Catholic you would know that the C of E has more in common with the RC church than any other.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:37am

Gnads wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:07am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:35am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."



Not Baptists for a long time.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ronald-train-031a04182#:~:text=Ronald%20Train%20%2D%20Pastor%20%2D%20CIFT%20Ministries%20%7C%20LinkedIn


The 3 arseholes WERE Baptists ffs initially. Greg is right!

The happy clapping church of the Train family came well after these 2 rebel brothers left the Baptist church (and who then started happily clapping the same bird)!!


Mr and Mrs Train and their 2 other children remained happy clappers.

The 2 rebel boys and their shared wife became happy cop murderers!

Ok?



phukkk off .. show me a link that says that they were raised in the Baptist faith/church.


YOU phukkkkkkkkkk off!

Their old dad SAID so! He even SAID he was the church minister at the time too!

Aussie Baptist people are like Presbyterians - harmless, law abiding and very lovely quiet people. Their church services and weddings are very boring unfortunately! No dancing or happy clapping are allowed. Oh and no alcohol either!

I grew up in these Christian churches myself so I knew (and still know) people who are in ministry positions. And I talk to them all the time too!

Bottom line? GGF Gnads!


I posted this before - he has belonged to this church organisation & retired from it as a Pastor... not the Baptist Church.

Whether or not he was once a Baptist is irrelevant.

Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches

none are connected to the C of E or Baptist.

It was formed in 2002 not long after Nathanial & Stacey were married.

https://www.fiec.org.au/

If you're a Catholic you would know that the C of E has more in common with the RC church than any other.


You're getting on my nerves now. Who cares when that organisation was formed?? That has SFA to do with these 2 prodigal arseholes who killed 2 young police rookies and their lovely neighbour!

Here we go again.

The father WAS a boring BAPTIST minister FIRST! Baptists are like Methodists and Presbyterians .... seriously bland and boring quiet people who don't drink alcohol and don't take drugs and don't dance at weddings and quietly obey the laws and directions of the land. Basically...they're a totally harmless bunch of people!

It was during their time in the Baptist Church the 2 boys left home, their church and family. Why? They were rebels and showed signs of being dysfunctional and unhinged. And controlling.

Their mum and dad and 2 other siblings remained Baptists (and later on they all became happy clappers). Not one of these people have done anything wrong.

It's the 2 prodigal sons who left their family and church and loved ones and turned their back on God to live a Godless life that ultimately killed 2 police officers AND their neighbour.

That's why when Groggy called the Baptist church a red flag 🚩 I told him where to go.

Now as regards your comments wrt the Anglican Church and Catholic Church... you're not right. Let me (once again) explain why.

The Anglican Church consists of 2 orders. High Order and Low Order.

High Order Anglicans are really Catholics in disguise.

Low Order Anglicans are the real deal. And I identify as one. Low Order Anglicans today are like Baptists and Presbyterians and Methodists EXCEPT we're not boring. I suppose in some respects we resemble happy clappers but that's just in terms of the modern taste in church music. Nothing else. Everything else is pretty much as it always was. Oh and we don't use Latin and our ministers don't look like pontiffs. Our ministers preach using every day English and wear normal neat casual clothes.

Edit : Many of us attend church online these days (Covid19 kinda helped us get to that point).








Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:45am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:46am:
I think it's religious thinking in general.  The notion that there is no proof therefore you MUST believe.  If you can't believe without proof you don't have faith, and that's a sin.

We can see in the US how this mentality of belief first, facts never, can result in things like shootings in pizza parlors or domestic terrorists storming the capitol.

Religious leaders often foster this way of "thinking" from young, in children defenseless to the brainwashing which lets them be exploited by those within the church, or those like the tards behind the Q larp.

It's not to say parishioners as individuals are bad or evil, often far from it given some of the good they can do within their communities, but they're ripe for radicalisation, be it via their faith or some tool bag on the Internet spinning an easy to understand explanation about why there are contrails behind a passenger jet that doesn't involve differences in air pressure or condensation in the air and is instead a secret Government mind control project that is much easier to understand for those failed by the education system.  Then it's just a quick pivot to "the jews are behind it" and they're signing up for the Proud Boys.

The reader already believes and then goes looking for proof, rather than discovering a fact and letting that guide their opinions.

This is when we get photos of the interior of water bombing planes being shared as proof of chemtrails.

They already believe first, they have the "faith", and then go looking for proof, like "miracles", and because they already believe they're right, anything can be proof.

And anything that doesn't support what they believe is easily dismissed as part of the conspiracy, "what they want you to believe", or fake news etc.

It is sadly, in this day and age with so many people willing to exploit others for profit, religiosity is a red flag, some worse than others, but none great.


Now you're making sense..... expand your thinking to incorporate that 'religious teaching' into other areas, including modern education in schools, the mad rush to being 'gender diverse', and all the other things.

Like ever so many these days, you are immersed in the very problem you discuss so deeply that you desperately seek to look at things as black and white, right and left, goodies and baddies, and just like any 'proud boy' you choose a side and that side can do no wrong .... and are actually, in doing so, part of the problem.

Contrary to a common belief, it is the Woke Left who are the real Neo-Fascists of today - seeking as they do to impose by threat, force, 're-education', violence and campaigns of terror, AND by subverting the very mechanisms of government so as to impose their idea of 'right' on everyone else.  It starts with the education system - not any religious system (though the two could easily be compared and found the same these days) - and the result is as mad and potentially violent towards billions as is Islamism and its blind and unthinking adherents.

Go back through your thesis above and put other words in place of 'religio-whatever' and see how the cards turn up......

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:46am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:49am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:40am:
Still can't find coppers specifically listed.

Most dangerous jobs in Australia:

Link.


This is the closest I can get to. It's better than nothing.


https://theconversation.com/amp/road-crashes-assaults-and-being-spat-on-the-dangers-facing-australian-police-in-the-line-of-duty-137594


Gnads? Aussie?

Can you guys find anything better?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 17th, 2022 at 11:02am
What is it that drives a mind out into a cold and rainy night?  Baptists?  Demons?

No Baptists here...............

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld - timeline of events
Post by Gnads on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:37am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:07am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:35am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:15am:
Here :

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/qld-police-shooting-offenders-nathaniel-gareth-stacey-train/101766720


Yeah lots of red flags in there


Indeed.

'Baptist Church' and 'Anti-vaxxers' being the two big ones.

Serious question: has Sir lasnail made any posts since this happened, or has he mysteriously disappeared?



Who's from the Baptist Church ... wasn't the brothers.


"Stacey and Nathaniel met through the Baptist church in Toowoomba where Nathaniel's father was a pastor."



Not Baptists for a long time.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ronald-train-031a04182#:~:text=Ronald%20Train%20%2D%20Pastor%20%2D%20CIFT%20Ministries%20%7C%20LinkedIn


The 3 arseholes WERE Baptists ffs initially. Greg is right!

The happy clapping church of the Train family came well after these 2 rebel brothers left the Baptist church (and who then started happily clapping the same bird)!!


Mr and Mrs Train and their 2 other children remained happy clappers.

The 2 rebel boys and their shared wife became happy cop murderers!

Ok?



phukkk off .. show me a link that says that they were raised in the Baptist faith/church.


YOU phukkkkkkkkkk off!

Their old dad SAID so! He even SAID he was the church minister at the time too!

Aussie Baptist people are like Presbyterians - harmless, law abiding and very lovely quiet people. Their church services and weddings are very boring unfortunately! No dancing or happy clapping are allowed. Oh and no alcohol either!

I grew up in these Christian churches myself so I knew (and still know) people who are in ministry positions. And I talk to them all the time too!

Bottom line? GGF Gnads!


I posted this before - he has belonged to this church organisation & retired from it as a Pastor... not the Baptist Church.

Whether or not he was once a Baptist is irrelevant.

Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches

none are connected to the C of E or Baptist.

It was formed in 2002 not long after Nathanial & Stacey were married.

https://www.fiec.org.au/

If you're a Catholic you would know that the C of E has more in common with the RC church than any other.


You're getting on my nerves now. Who cares when that organisation was formed?? That has SFA to do with these 2 prodigal arseholes who killed 2 young police rookies and their lovely neighbour!

Here we go again.

The father WAS a boring BAPTIST minister FIRST! Baptists are like Methodists and Presbyterians .... seriously bland and boring quiet people who don't drink alcohol and don't take drugs and don't dance at weddings and quietly obey the laws and directions of the land. Basically...they're a totally harmless bunch of people!

It was during their time in the Baptist Church the 2 boys left home, their church and family. Why? They were rebels and showed signs of being dysfunctional and unhinged. And controlling.

Their mum and dad and 2 other siblings remained Baptists (and later on they all became happy clappers). Not one of these people have done anything wrong.

It's the 2 prodigal sons who left their family and church and loved ones and turned their back on God to live a Godless life that ultimately killed 2 police officers AND their neighbour.

That's why when Groggy called the Baptist church a red flag 🚩 I told him where to go.

Now as regards your comments wrt the Anglican Church and Catholic Church... you're not right. Let me (once again) explain why.

The Anglican Church consists of 2 orders. High Order and Low Order.

High Order Anglicans are really Catholics in disguise.

Low Order Anglicans are the real deal. And I identify as one. Low Order Anglicans today are like Baptists and Presbyterians and Methodists EXCEPT we're not boring. I suppose in some respects we resemble happy clappers but that's just in terms of the modern taste in church music. Nothing else. Everything else is pretty much as it always was. Oh and we don't use Latin and our ministers don't look like pontiffs. Our ministers preach using every day English and wear normal neat casual clothes.

Edit : Many of us attend church online these days (Covid19 kinda helped us get to that point).


You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a phukk ....

about getting on your nerves or anything else.

Don't be crapping on about him & his sons being Baptists way back when the family has been Happy Clappers since not long after 1998.

That's 24 years ago.

As for the "lovely neighbour" ... you, I nor the cops know SFA about him.

Most of the blockies there are running/hiding from something.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:34pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:45am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:46am:
I think it's religious thinking in general.  The notion that there is no proof therefore you MUST believe.  If you can't believe without proof you don't have faith, and that's a sin.

We can see in the US how this mentality of belief first, facts never, can result in things like shootings in pizza parlors or domestic terrorists storming the capitol.

Religious leaders often foster this way of "thinking" from young, in children defenseless to the brainwashing which lets them be exploited by those within the church, or those like the tards behind the Q larp.

It's not to say parishioners as individuals are bad or evil, often far from it given some of the good they can do within their communities, but they're ripe for radicalisation, be it via their faith or some tool bag on the Internet spinning an easy to understand explanation about why there are contrails behind a passenger jet that doesn't involve differences in air pressure or condensation in the air and is instead a secret Government mind control project that is much easier to understand for those failed by the education system.  Then it's just a quick pivot to "the jews are behind it" and they're signing up for the Proud Boys.

The reader already believes and then goes looking for proof, rather than discovering a fact and letting that guide their opinions.

This is when we get photos of the interior of water bombing planes being shared as proof of chemtrails.

They already believe first, they have the "faith", and then go looking for proof, like "miracles", and because they already believe they're right, anything can be proof.

And anything that doesn't support what they believe is easily dismissed as part of the conspiracy, "what they want you to believe", or fake news etc.

It is sadly, in this day and age with so many people willing to exploit others for profit, religiosity is a red flag, some worse than others, but none great.


Now you're making sense..... expand your thinking to incorporate that 'religious teaching' into other areas, including modern education in schools, the mad rush to being 'gender diverse', and all the other things.

Like ever so many these days, you are immersed in the very problem you discuss so deeply that you desperately seek to look at things as black and white, right and left, goodies and baddies, and just like any 'proud boy' you choose a side and that side can do no wrong .... and are actually, in doing so, part of the problem.

Contrary to a common belief, it is the Woke Left who are the real Neo-Fascists of today - seeking as they do to impose by threat, force, 're-education', violence and campaigns of terror, AND by subverting the very mechanisms of government so as to impose their idea of 'right' on everyone else.  It starts with the education system - not any religious system (though the two could easily be compared and found the same these days) - and the result is as mad and potentially violent towards billions as is Islamism and its blind and unthinking adherents.

Go back through your thesis above and put other words in place of 'religio-whatever' and see how the cards turn up......


Swing and a miss.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:09am
I think this is a dumb move.  First, the locals are there where they are because they are after seclusion and they are not likely to be happy about some sort of active retreat in their lap.

Second, if I was a bastard and I wanted copper scalp, how convenient is it to have some coppers relaxing in a rural environment which is probably very vulnerable to those of evil intent.

Link.


Quote:
Queensland Police Union plan to buy Wieambilla property where two officers were killed in ambush



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 20th, 2022 at 11:07am

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:09am:
I think this is a dumb move.  First, the locals are there where they are because they are after seclusion and they are not likely to be happy about some sort of active retreat in their lap.

Second, if I was a bastard and I wanted copper scalp, how convenient is it to have some coppers relaxing in a rural environment which is probably very vulnerable to those of evil intent.

Link.


Quote:
Queensland Police Union plan to buy Wieambilla property where two officers were killed in ambush



I agree it's a dumb move.

Prevent 1 property from falling into the wrong hands???? ;D

There are 1,000s more like it all over QLD & the country......

in fact I'd say there are even a few more in that area.

Leavers is losing the plot .... that is not his nor the Police Unions job.

I wouldn't want my Union dues going toward that.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 20th, 2022 at 11:12am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:34pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:45am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:46am:
I think it's religious thinking in general.  The notion that there is no proof therefore you MUST believe.  If you can't believe without proof you don't have faith, and that's a sin.

We can see in the US how this mentality of belief first, facts never, can result in things like shootings in pizza parlors or domestic terrorists storming the capitol.

Religious leaders often foster this way of "thinking" from young, in children defenseless to the brainwashing which lets them be exploited by those within the church, or those like the tards behind the Q larp.

It's not to say parishioners as individuals are bad or evil, often far from it given some of the good they can do within their communities, but they're ripe for radicalisation, be it via their faith or some tool bag on the Internet spinning an easy to understand explanation about why there are contrails behind a passenger jet that doesn't involve differences in air pressure or condensation in the air and is instead a secret Government mind control project that is much easier to understand for those failed by the education system.  Then it's just a quick pivot to "the jews are behind it" and they're signing up for the Proud Boys.

The reader already believes and then goes looking for proof, rather than discovering a fact and letting that guide their opinions.

This is when we get photos of the interior of water bombing planes being shared as proof of chemtrails.

They already believe first, they have the "faith", and then go looking for proof, like "miracles", and because they already believe they're right, anything can be proof.

And anything that doesn't support what they believe is easily dismissed as part of the conspiracy, "what they want you to believe", or fake news etc.

It is sadly, in this day and age with so many people willing to exploit others for profit, religiosity is a red flag, some worse than others, but none great.


Now you're making sense..... expand your thinking to incorporate that 'religious teaching' into other areas, including modern education in schools, the mad rush to being 'gender diverse', and all the other things.

Like ever so many these days, you are immersed in the very problem you discuss so deeply that you desperately seek to look at things as black and white, right and left, goodies and baddies, and just like any 'proud boy' you choose a side and that side can do no wrong .... and are actually, in doing so, part of the problem.

Contrary to a common belief, it is the Woke Left who are the real Neo-Fascists of today - seeking as they do to impose by threat, force, 're-education', violence and campaigns of terror, AND by subverting the very mechanisms of government so as to impose their idea of 'right' on everyone else.  It starts with the education system - not any religious system (though the two could easily be compared and found the same these days) - and the result is as mad and potentially violent towards billions as is Islamism and its blind and unthinking adherents.

Go back through your thesis above and put other words in place of 'religio-whatever' and see how the cards turn up......


Swing and a miss.


Didn't expect you to want to understand simple realities.... you already know everything - just ask you.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 20th, 2022 at 11:16am

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:09am:
I think this is a dumb move.  First, the locals are there where they are because they are after seclusion and they are not likely to be happy about some sort of active retreat in their lap.

Second, if I was a bastard and I wanted copper scalp, how convenient is it to have some coppers relaxing in a rural environment which is probably very vulnerable to those of evil intent.

Link.


Quote:
Queensland Police Union plan to buy Wieambilla property where two officers were killed in ambush


Great idea..... no suggestion of interfering with anyone's seclusion....so you are saying that coppers taking a break there might be at risk of attack?  That might drain that swamp then.

People do get some funny ideas of what they are entitled to do when 'out there'..... real hillbilly thinking ....start to imagine the rules don't apply to them... you know the drift..... happening to Alice Springs as we speak....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 20th, 2022 at 11:19am

Gnads wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 11:07am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:09am:
I think this is a dumb move.  First, the locals are there where they are because they are after seclusion and they are not likely to be happy about some sort of active retreat in their lap.

Second, if I was a bastard and I wanted copper scalp, how convenient is it to have some coppers relaxing in a rural environment which is probably very vulnerable to those of evil intent.

Link.


Quote:
Queensland Police Union plan to buy Wieambilla property where two officers were killed in ambush



I agree it's a dumb move.

Prevent 1 property from falling into the wrong hands???? ;D

There are 1,000s more like it all over QLD & the country......

in fact I'd say there are even a few more in that area.

Leavers is losing the plot .... that is not his nor the Police Unions job.

I wouldn't want my Union dues going toward that.


Special forces compound at the base of the Central Highlands... dangle the bait, draw 'em out and subject 'em to massive firepower... clean out the sewers and drain the swamps...

Sounds like some of these areas need draining .... and the asylums re-opened....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 20th, 2022 at 1:31pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 11:07am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:09am:
I think this is a dumb move.  First, the locals are there where they are because they are after seclusion and they are not likely to be happy about some sort of active retreat in their lap.

Second, if I was a bastard and I wanted copper scalp, how convenient is it to have some coppers relaxing in a rural environment which is probably very vulnerable to those of evil intent.

Link.


Quote:
Queensland Police Union plan to buy Wieambilla property where two officers were killed in ambush



I agree it's a dumb move.

Prevent 1 property from falling into the wrong hands???? ;D

There are 1,000s more like it all over QLD & the country......

in fact I'd say there are even a few more in that area.

Leavers is losing the plot .... that is not his nor the Police Unions job.

I wouldn't want my Union dues going toward that.


Just when you thought this case could NOT get any more bizarre.

This Police Union official is pushing the line that the site will be bought and will become a shrine. Yep....a freaking shrine!

Leavers needs professional counselling and some anti depressants. And to stay well away from releasing ANY pressers.

Could you imagine the ramifications of such a half baked move? Vast amounts of cash sums will be diverted from helping those officers who are still alive ffs!

And if this dumb move DOES go through then that just sets a ridiculous precedent for other shrines to be purchased and set up using the union dues of the living. 

Where is Common Sense? Oh that's right ....it's yet another casualty in all this BS!



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 20th, 2022 at 9:21pm

Quote:
Police shooter Nathaniel Train breached Queensland border in a car carrying weapons months after school resignation

A camouflage-clad Nathaniel Train, driving a black 4WD carrying loaded guns and military knives, broke through the NSW border gate into Queensland in December last year.

The COVID-19 border breach — along with other evidence that the former school principal potentially broke laws relating to the possession and disposal of weapons during the same incident — was reported to Queensland police less than a year before Train was involved in a deadly shooting that resulted in the deaths of two young police constables.

Queensland Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll has said she did not have the "full extent of information" about whether the Trains were known to police, what weapons they had or details of domestic violence allegations.

A Queensland farmer in the Goondiwindi region who asked not to be named said he had contacted police about the incident after finding Train on a flooded road near the border.

The farmer said Train had tried to ram his black Toyota LandCruiser through the border gates.

When that failed, the farmer said Train used an angle grinder to cut the padlock on the gates and drive into Queensland.

The man said he watched Train as he began dumping items from his car into floodwaters.

"He jumped out of the car and started ditching all the stuff out of the car and throwing it into the creek. I thought, 'that looks sketchy.'"

Train returned to his vehicle to take guns, a bow and arrow and some military-style "Rambo" knives before getting into their vehicle, the farmer said.

The farmer said he found documents near where the vehicle had been, including some that identified him as Nathaniel Train and outlined his work history at a NSW school.

He said he contacted police about the vehicle and the border breach, fearing the car might have been stolen.

Police told him because the vehicle had not been stolen, there was nothing they could do, he said.

Weapons strewn across flooded creek bed
Hours later when water began receding beside the vehicle, the farmer said they began finding weapons.

He said that among the items Train had ditched in the creek were at least three firearms – "short scrub sort of weapons" and ammunition.

He said the firearms were retrieved from the water and found to be loaded.

He said he contacted police about the weapons and they were eventually taken away.

"They were short-range weapons,'' he said.

"We assumed they were either stolen or unregistered. I rang the police a day after to report it."

As of this Friday, Train's Toyota LandCruiser 200 series was still on the farmer's property.

Checks on the 4WD's registration plates have revealed the vehicle had been registered in NSW until October 28, 2022.

Shop owner John Miorandi said he had heard of someone who had "smashed through the gate and was coming to Talwood".

"We heard, there was Fijian farm workers out there and when the flood went down … they said, 'Hey look at all this stuff next to the fence.'

"There was a heap of stuff there, like a lot of stuff and when the water was going lower and lower they started finding guns".

The farmer said Train's former wife, who lives in NSW, now wanted the vehicle back.

Mr Springborg said the council would have reported the breach to police.

He said there was also a camera on the bridge, which would have recorded the incident and supplied the footage to police.

"That's how the police apprehended quite a few people,'' Mr Springborg said.

The Queensland Police Service (QPS) said it would not be providing comment while the Ethical Standards Command conducted a major investigation into the incident.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-17/qld-police-shooting-nathaniel-train-rammed-border-dumped-guns/101783696


No licensed firearm owner would throw registered firearms into a creek.
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/fa1996102/s39.html

Now we have top cops from NSW and QLD asking for tougher gun laws when it's clear they don't enforce the laws we already have. This asking for tougher laws is to deflect from the fact they never properly investigated this guy.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 20th, 2022 at 9:49pm
Beginning to sound more like he was involved in that 'out west' gun-running business or was stock-piling weapons for his or some group's use.

Been alluding that to yez for years now... and even  you blind ones here must have seen the reports of interceptions of gun-runners out that way.

Ask the questions.... ask the questions ..........

If this story is kosher and he was hoarding guns for some group etc - that would explain the reaction to two cops walking up the driveway - as if they would walk up to the front door just like that if they were after him for gun-running or possible insurrectionist doings.

What an unbalanced idiot all round.  Pity they didn't take them all alive.  I want to know what each died from and whose weapon.

Shadows within shadows.... circles within circles.... watch this space....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:20am
Further to this stupid move by the Police Union & it's President Ian Leavers.....

there are the 2 children of Nathaniel & Stacey Train
that should have an inheritable right to that property before any of this nonsense is considered.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:31am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 9:21pm:

Quote:
Police shooter Nathaniel Train breached Queensland border in a car carrying weapons months after school resignation

A camouflage-clad Nathaniel Train, driving a black 4WD carrying loaded guns and military knives, broke through the NSW border gate into Queensland in December last year.

The COVID-19 border breach — along with other evidence that the former school principal potentially broke laws relating to the possession and disposal of weapons during the same incident — was reported to Queensland police less than a year before Train was involved in a deadly shooting that resulted in the deaths of two young police constables.

Queensland Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll has said she did not have the "full extent of information" about whether the Trains were known to police, what weapons they had or details of domestic violence allegations.

A Queensland farmer in the Goondiwindi region who asked not to be named said he had contacted police about the incident after finding Train on a flooded road near the border.

The farmer said Train had tried to ram his black Toyota LandCruiser through the border gates.

When that failed, the farmer said Train used an angle grinder to cut the padlock on the gates and drive into Queensland.

The man said he watched Train as he began dumping items from his car into floodwaters.

"He jumped out of the car and started ditching all the stuff out of the car and throwing it into the creek. I thought, 'that looks sketchy.'"

Train returned to his vehicle to take guns, a bow and arrow and some military-style "Rambo" knives before getting into their vehicle, the farmer said.

The farmer said he found documents near where the vehicle had been, including some that identified him as Nathaniel Train and outlined his work history at a NSW school.

He said he contacted police about the vehicle and the border breach, fearing the car might have been stolen.

Police told him because the vehicle had not been stolen, there was nothing they could do, he said.

Weapons strewn across flooded creek bed
Hours later when water began receding beside the vehicle, the farmer said they began finding weapons.

He said that among the items Train had ditched in the creek were at least three firearms – "short scrub sort of weapons" and ammunition.

He said the firearms were retrieved from the water and found to be loaded.

He said he contacted police about the weapons and they were eventually taken away.

"They were short-range weapons,'' he said.

"We assumed they were either stolen or unregistered. I rang the police a day after to report it."

As of this Friday, Train's Toyota LandCruiser 200 series was still on the farmer's property.

Checks on the 4WD's registration plates have revealed the vehicle had been registered in NSW until October 28, 2022.

Shop owner John Miorandi said he had heard of someone who had "smashed through the gate and was coming to Talwood".

"We heard, there was Fijian farm workers out there and when the flood went down … they said, 'Hey look at all this stuff next to the fence.'

"There was a heap of stuff there, like a lot of stuff and when the water was going lower and lower they started finding guns".

The farmer said Train's former wife, who lives in NSW, now wanted the vehicle back.

Mr Springborg said the council would have reported the breach to police.

He said there was also a camera on the bridge, which would have recorded the incident and supplied the footage to police.

"That's how the police apprehended quite a few people,'' Mr Springborg said.

The Queensland Police Service (QPS) said it would not be providing comment while the Ethical Standards Command conducted a major investigation into the incident.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-17/qld-police-shooting-nathaniel-train-rammed-border-dumped-guns/101783696


No licensed firearm owner would throw registered firearms into a creek.
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/fa1996102/s39.html

Now we have top cops from NSW and QLD asking for tougher gun laws when it's clear they don't enforce the laws we already have. This asking for tougher laws is to deflect from the fact they never properly investigated this guy.



Gareth Train was known to Police - he'd had run ins with them before....

I remember that COVID cross border crash through being reported in the news media as I was travelling with a group of friends out that way around that time.

Whilst we were in St. George a border hopper who had hitch hiked there(got a short lift from a copper near the border it was said) was being investigated.

You never know the type of people getting about.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:37am

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:31am:
Gareth Train was known to Police - he'd had run ins with them before....

I remember that COVID cross border crash through being reported in the news media as I was travelling with a group of friends out that way around that time.

Whilst we were in St. George a border hopper who had hitch hiked there(got a short lift from a copper near the border it was said) was being investigated.

You never know the type of people getting about.



There has been gross incompetence from the QLD cops.
They sent 4 green coppers around to an obviously dangerous man:

He had tried to illegally cross the border.
He had thrown unregistered firearms into a river that were later recovered.
Why wasn't he in jail?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:46am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:37am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:31am:
Gareth Train was known to Police - he'd had run ins with them before....

I remember that COVID cross border crash through being reported in the news media as I was travelling with a group of friends out that way around that time.

Whilst we were in St. George a border hopper who had hitch hiked there(got a short lift from a copper near the border it was said) was being investigated.

You never know the type of people getting about.



There has been gross incompetence from the QLD cops.
They sent 4 green coppers around to an obviously dangerous man:

He had tried to illegally cross the border.
He had thrown unregistered firearms into a river that were later recovered.
Why wasn't he in jail?


The question should be why did they send 4 coppers on a missing persons enquiry .... & only 2 go onto the property.

I dare say it may have been 4 dead coppers had they all walked toward the house together.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:55am

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:20am:
Further to this stupid move by the Police Union & it's President Ian Leavers.....

there are the 2 children of Nathaniel & Stacey Train
that should have an inheritable right to that property before any of this nonsense is considered.


Actually that IS a good point.

What if the 2 children want to hold onto their parent's property?

Nope! Not on! Leavers wants that property as a police shrine where rookies who should never have been told to go there mind you ....went down ffs!

And such a move will essentially involve taking hard earned Union dues from the living and redirecting them to the dead.

Leavers is a next level dhead. He's just talking BS! Keep him away from pressers. My God this matter is beyond cringeworthy now. 

I just want the name of that police sergeant (or Inspector) who directed 4 rookies to that remote property.

THAT name isn't being revealed in all the BS of establishing shrines and fallen heroes.

Unbelievable z grade play here by police. FMD I've been left disillusioned and disgusted by all this!





Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:55am

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:37am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:31am:
Gareth Train was known to Police - he'd had run ins with them before....

I remember that COVID cross border crash through being reported in the news media as I was travelling with a group of friends out that way around that time.

Whilst we were in St. George a border hopper who had hitch hiked there(got a short lift from a copper near the border it was said) was being investigated.

You never know the type of people getting about.



There has been gross incompetence from the QLD cops.
They sent 4 green coppers around to an obviously dangerous man:

He had tried to illegally cross the border.
He had thrown unregistered firearms into a river that were later recovered.
Why wasn't he in jail?


The question should be why did they send 4 coppers on a missing persons enquiry .... & only 2 go onto the property.

I dare say it may have been 4 dead coppers had they all walked toward the house together.



Really - I thought all 4 walked in?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:03am
https://www.polanimal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19575

👆 stuff I didn't feel comfortable posting on this website so I did so over at Freediver's other site. Many thanks to the Admin and Mods there who gave me the chance to vent my anguish because they could genuinely see I was struggling with this terrible tragedy.

FMD I've got kids the ages of these rookies and relatives who are married to cops. Migraine time here. Again. Bye. 🥺

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:50am
Proceeds of crime ............... confiscated in lieu of punishment via sentencing or fining or both and to cover costs of the police operation.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:22am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:50am:
Proceeds of crime ............... confiscated in lieu of punishment via sentencing or fining or both and to cover costs of the police operation.


It definitely does NOT fall under proceeds of crime (like drug money etc).

As regards the rest of your post Grappler .... who knows? Nothing surprises me anymore about this case. It was bizarre from the get go.

I've no doubt that there's going to be a massive cover up (it's already in place) to totally distract our attention AWAY from the truth.

Dear Lord what is to become of Australia if truth and transparency are tantamount to endangered species within our system of government.






Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:35am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:55am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:37am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:31am:
Gareth Train was known to Police - he'd had run ins with them before....

I remember that COVID cross border crash through being reported in the news media as I was travelling with a group of friends out that way around that time.

Whilst we were in St. George a border hopper who had hitch hiked there(got a short lift from a copper near the border it was said) was being investigated.

You never know the type of people getting about.



There has been gross incompetence from the QLD cops.
They sent 4 green coppers around to an obviously dangerous man:

He had tried to illegally cross the border.
He had thrown unregistered firearms into a river that were later recovered.
Why wasn't he in jail?


The question should be why did they send 4 coppers on a missing persons enquiry .... & only 2 go onto the property.

I dare say it may have been 4 dead coppers had they all walked toward the house together.



Really - I thought all 4 walked in?



Well - sounds like it - one made it back to the car and another took to the bush... so they were all away from the car...

Say it again - wish they'd taken them alive... for several reasons....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:02pm
Gun Control Australia the rabid bedwetting hoplophobes who hate guns are questioning why QLD police haven't stated whether the guns used were legal or illegal.


Quote:
Officer took statement about Nathaniel Train's border crossing with weapons months before police shooting

Police took a statement about former school principal Nathaniel Train in connection with weapons offences and a COVID-19 border breach almost eight months before he was involved in shooting dead two constables and a neighbour.

This was despite information having been given to Queensland police months earlier about Train's possession of firearms and breaching of the Queensland border in the Goondiwindi region in December 2021.

During the incident he was suspected of illegally dumping the weapons in floodwaters before travelling north into Queensland with other weapons.

The ABC has confirmed that as part of enquiries, Goondiwindi police took a statement on April 29 that clearly identified Train as being involved in the incident.

The statement taken by a Goondiwindi general duties officer, and sighted by the ABC, noted that Train had identified himself by name and said he was the principal of Walgett State School.

It was given by a resident who had given Train a lift through floodwaters to nearby Talwood on December 17 last year.

The resident also revealed Train was travelling with weapons and had borrowed his phone to make a call.

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train, that were found next to where he swamped the vehicle, were given to police some days after the border breach occurred and when the flood subsided.

An image of the dumped weapons seen by the ABC shows them to be two rifles and a shotgun. One of the rifles is camouflaged and has a telescopic sight.

A licence would have been necessary for legal possession of the firearms in Queensland or New South Wales.

Police 'unable' to comment
Police have not provided any detail about the border breach and illegal disposal of firearms.

Earlier this week a spokeswoman said it was inappropriate to comment while the matter is being investigated and out of respect for the sensitivities of the families involved.

The ABC contacted QPS on Tuesday about the Talwood resident's statement being given eight months before and what happened with their enquiries.

A QPS spokesperson said they had previously provided a statement and "were unable to make any comment any further at this stage due to the investigations underway".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-20/queensland-police-shooting-border-weapons-nathaniel-train/101794010


The police failed to take any action on these firearms offences.

I see why they don't want to talk about it.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:06pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:02pm:
Gun Control Australia the rabid bedwetting hoplophobes who hate guns are questioning why QLD police haven't stated whether the guns used were legal or illegal.


Quote:
Officer took statement about Nathaniel Train's border crossing with weapons months before police shooting

Police took a statement about former school principal Nathaniel Train in connection with weapons offences and a COVID-19 border breach almost eight months before he was involved in shooting dead two constables and a neighbour.

This was despite information having been given to Queensland police months earlier about Train's possession of firearms and breaching of the Queensland border in the Goondiwindi region in December 2021.

During the incident he was suspected of illegally dumping the weapons in floodwaters before travelling north into Queensland with other weapons.

The ABC has confirmed that as part of enquiries, Goondiwindi police took a statement on April 29 that clearly identified Train as being involved in the incident.

The statement taken by a Goondiwindi general duties officer, and sighted by the ABC, noted that Train had identified himself by name and said he was the principal of Walgett State School.

It was given by a resident who had given Train a lift through floodwaters to nearby Talwood on December 17 last year.

The resident also revealed Train was travelling with weapons and had borrowed his phone to make a call.

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train, that were found next to where he swamped the vehicle, were given to police some days after the border breach occurred and when the flood subsided.

An image of the dumped weapons seen by the ABC shows them to be two rifles and a shotgun. One of the rifles is camouflaged and has a telescopic sight.

A licence would have been necessary for legal possession of the firearms in Queensland or New South Wales.

Police 'unable' to comment
Police have not provided any detail about the border breach and illegal disposal of firearms.

Earlier this week a spokeswoman said it was inappropriate to comment while the matter is being investigated and out of respect for the sensitivities of the families involved.

The ABC contacted QPS on Tuesday about the Talwood resident's statement being given eight months before and what happened with their enquiries.

A QPS spokesperson said they had previously provided a statement and "were unable to make any comment any further at this stage due to the investigations underway".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-20/queensland-police-shooting-border-weapons-nathaniel-train/101794010


The police failed to take any action on these firearms offences.

I see why they don't want to talk about it.


Exactly! Total silence where police failed. Enter distraction/deflection. Example : Let's talk shrines for 2 dead rookies.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:27pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:31am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 9:21pm:

Quote:
Police shooter Nathaniel Train breached Queensland border in a car carrying weapons months after school resignation

A camouflage-clad Nathaniel Train, driving a black 4WD carrying loaded guns and military knives, broke through the NSW border gate into Queensland in December last year.

The COVID-19 border breach — along with other evidence that the former school principal potentially broke laws relating to the possession and disposal of weapons during the same incident — was reported to Queensland police less than a year before Train was involved in a deadly shooting that resulted in the deaths of two young police constables.

Queensland Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll has said she did not have the "full extent of information" about whether the Trains were known to police, what weapons they had or details of domestic violence allegations.

A Queensland farmer in the Goondiwindi region who asked not to be named said he had contacted police about the incident after finding Train on a flooded road near the border.

The farmer said Train had tried to ram his black Toyota LandCruiser through the border gates.

When that failed, the farmer said Train used an angle grinder to cut the padlock on the gates and drive into Queensland.

The man said he watched Train as he began dumping items from his car into floodwaters.

"He jumped out of the car and started ditching all the stuff out of the car and throwing it into the creek. I thought, 'that looks sketchy.'"

Train returned to his vehicle to take guns, a bow and arrow and some military-style "Rambo" knives before getting into their vehicle, the farmer said.

The farmer said he found documents near where the vehicle had been, including some that identified him as Nathaniel Train and outlined his work history at a NSW school.

He said he contacted police about the vehicle and the border breach, fearing the car might have been stolen.

Police told him because the vehicle had not been stolen, there was nothing they could do, he said.

Weapons strewn across flooded creek bed
Hours later when water began receding beside the vehicle, the farmer said they began finding weapons.

He said that among the items Train had ditched in the creek were at least three firearms – "short scrub sort of weapons" and ammunition.

He said the firearms were retrieved from the water and found to be loaded.

He said he contacted police about the weapons and they were eventually taken away.

"They were short-range weapons,'' he said.

"We assumed they were either stolen or unregistered. I rang the police a day after to report it."

As of this Friday, Train's Toyota LandCruiser 200 series was still on the farmer's property.

Checks on the 4WD's registration plates have revealed the vehicle had been registered in NSW until October 28, 2022.

Shop owner John Miorandi said he had heard of someone who had "smashed through the gate and was coming to Talwood".

"We heard, there was Fijian farm workers out there and when the flood went down … they said, 'Hey look at all this stuff next to the fence.'

"There was a heap of stuff there, like a lot of stuff and when the water was going lower and lower they started finding guns".

The farmer said Train's former wife, who lives in NSW, now wanted the vehicle back.

Mr Springborg said the council would have reported the breach to police.

He said there was also a camera on the bridge, which would have recorded the incident and supplied the footage to police.

"That's how the police apprehended quite a few people,'' Mr Springborg said.

The Queensland Police Service (QPS) said it would not be providing comment while the Ethical Standards Command conducted a major investigation into the incident.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-17/qld-police-shooting-nathaniel-train-rammed-border-dumped-guns/101783696


No licensed firearm owner would throw registered firearms into a creek.
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/fa1996102/s39.html

Now we have top cops from NSW and QLD asking for tougher gun laws when it's clear they don't enforce the laws we already have. This asking for tougher laws is to deflect from the fact they never properly investigated this guy.



Gareth Train was known to Police - he'd had run ins with them before....

I remember that COVID cross border crash through being reported in the news media as I was travelling with a group of friends out that way around that time.

Whilst we were in St. George a border hopper who had hitch hiked there(got a short lift from a copper near the border it was said) was being investigated.

You never know the type of people getting about.


Ask the question why was he known to police?
There’s more to this story. Ask about what he did hence why he had to flee for his life?


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:34pm
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:35pm
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 21st, 2022 at 2:22pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:27pm:
Ask the question why was he known to police?
There’s more to this story. Ask about what he did hence why he had to flee for his life?


Perzackery!!  Clearly to just start shooting without notice meant he had something big to hide....  still waiting for the truth to come out... these people thought they were fighting the good fight for some reason of their own...

My money is on running guns to the Warriors of The Aboriginal Resistance etc.  Australia may have dodged a bullet there, so to speak.... or maybe it was just cash for getting hold of guns for gangsters .... easy money until you get caught.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:00pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:02pm:
Gun Control Australia the rabid bedwetting hoplophobes who hate guns are questioning why QLD police haven't stated whether the guns used were legal or illegal.


Quote:
Officer took statement about Nathaniel Train's border crossing with weapons months before police shooting

Police took a statement about former school principal Nathaniel Train in connection with weapons offences and a COVID-19 border breach almost eight months before he was involved in shooting dead two constables and a neighbour.

This was despite information having been given to Queensland police months earlier about Train's possession of firearms and breaching of the Queensland border in the Goondiwindi region in December 2021.

During the incident he was suspected of illegally dumping the weapons in floodwaters before travelling north into Queensland with other weapons.

The ABC has confirmed that as part of enquiries, Goondiwindi police took a statement on April 29 that clearly identified Train as being involved in the incident.

The statement taken by a Goondiwindi general duties officer, and sighted by the ABC, noted that Train had identified himself by name and said he was the principal of Walgett State School.

It was given by a resident who had given Train a lift through floodwaters to nearby Talwood on December 17 last year.

The resident also revealed Train was travelling with weapons and had borrowed his phone to make a call.

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train, that were found next to where he swamped the vehicle, were given to police some days after the border breach occurred and when the flood subsided.

An image of the dumped weapons seen by the ABC shows them to be two rifles and a shotgun. One of the rifles is camouflaged and has a telescopic sight.

A licence would have been necessary for legal possession of the firearms in Queensland or New South Wales.

Police 'unable' to comment
Police have not provided any detail about the border breach and illegal disposal of firearms.

Earlier this week a spokeswoman said it was inappropriate to comment while the matter is being investigated and out of respect for the sensitivities of the families involved.

The ABC contacted QPS on Tuesday about the Talwood resident's statement being given eight months before and what happened with their enquiries.

A QPS spokesperson said they had previously provided a statement and "were unable to make any comment any further at this stage due to the investigations underway".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-20/queensland-police-shooting-border-weapons-nathaniel-train/101794010


The police failed to take any action on these firearms offences.

I see why they don't want to talk about it.


Exactly! Total silence where police failed. Enter distraction/deflection. Example : Let's talk shrines for 2 dead rookies.



It is a total failure in every respect.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:31pm
...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:35pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:31pm:
...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!



Come on Aussie,
someone could have been the worst prick in the town but
at their funeral they always a top bloke.  :-[

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:35pm:
[quote author=Aussie link=1670839340/604#604 date=1671600686]...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!



Come on Aussie,
someone could have been the worst prick in the town but
at their funeral they always a top bloke.  :-[/quote]

How about addressing what I wrote?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:50pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:35pm:
[quote author=Aussie link=1670839340/604#604 date=1671600686]...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!



Come on Aussie,
someone could have been the worst prick in the town but
at their funeral they always a top bloke.  :-[/quote]

How about addressing what I wrote?



I did.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:51pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:31pm:
...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!


Glad I missed seeing the sanitised REscripted mythologised summary of what really went down.

And what really went down was a botched up concocted "operation" by a bunch of rookies who were obeying the half baked orders of some cowboy - supervisor who's name is still unknown. 🥺




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:31pm:
...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!


Glad I missed seeing the sanitised REscripted mythologised summary of what really went down.

And what really went down was a botched up concocted "operation" by a bunch of rookies who were obeying the half baked orders of some cowboy - supervisor who's name is still unknown. 🥺


Yes that’s the part we don’t know… who ordered 4 cops to go locate a missing person.
And why is this kept from public? What’s being hidden from all this game?
Or was it not so much a missing person… but wanted by certain police.
Seems the missing person didn’t want to be known where his location was.
He’s not a missing child… so why so much emphasis to locate as a missing person?
And all this little set up warning alerts around their place was to warn them if anyone (cops) were approaching. I saw a vid of him saying the cops wanted him dead.
I’m thinking Aussie was correct from way back in this thread… the cops were never going to take them alive.




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:05pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:31pm:
...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!


It all smacks of guilt by whomever it was that gave these  (4) rookies the duty to “locate a missing person” when that person was wanted and was on guard to avoid police.
Rookies knew nothing. Just canon fodder.
I reckon no-one dobbed in and rang the cops about “missing person/s”

I’m seeing it your way now Aussie.
Took a while to get there, but eventually the whole thing seemed set up.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:05pm
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:06pm
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck




Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:58pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck


So, ask yourself.  Where were the heroics of the four?  Where was the act of valour by anyone of them? 

We are being snowed by emotive garbage.  Don't fall for it.

I want to make clear...I am not seeking to minimse the loss to the family of the deceased coppers, but I refuse to buy into this bravery crap until the authorities explain to me exactly what they are relying upon to deify these people who died doing the most menial of all possible police work.  Before they left to do the job, they were all said to be joking around and laughing about it.  It was mundane, a nothing job...hence the total absence/lack of preparation for what transpired.

Far cough with the emotive, the public memorial, the medal awarding rubbish.

Bah humbug.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:59pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck



It's strange how fast that Bearcat armored vehicle got there.
I wonder where it was when they called for it to assist them?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:00pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck


So, ask yourself.  Where were the heroics of the four?  Where was the act of valour by anyone of them? 

We are being snowed by emotive garbage.  Don't fall for it.

I want to make clear...I am not seeking to minimse the loss to the family of the deceased coppers, but I refuse to buy into this bravery crap until the authorities explain to me exactly what they are relying upon to deify these people who died doing the most menial of all possible police work.  Before they left to do the job, they were all said to be joking around and laughing about it.  It was mundane, a nothing job...hence the total absence/lack of preparation for what transpired.

Far cough with the emotive, the public memorial, the medal awarding rubbish.

Bah humbug.



Wouldn't you say that anyone who loses their life doing their job is a hero?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bobby. on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:01pm
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:18pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck


I agree with Sophia - there is more to this than meets the eye... you'd have to have some powerful secret you wanted to hide to start blazing away at a couple of cops in plain sight without even a weapon in their hands ... then the cold execution of wounded on the ground.... relentless pursuit of a lone female .... clearly these people had some war game in mind.....

I have my suspicions.... they needed one of them alive.......

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck


So, ask yourself.  Where were the heroics of the four?  Where was the act of valour by anyone of them? 

We are being snowed by emotive garbage.  Don't fall for it.

I want to make clear...I am not seeking to minimse the loss to the family of the deceased coppers, but I refuse to buy into this bravery crap until the authorities explain to me exactly what they are relying upon to deify these people who died doing the most menial of all possible police work.  Before they left to do the job, they were all said to be joking around and laughing about it.  It was mundane, a nothing job...hence the total absence/lack of preparation for what transpired.

Far cough with the emotive, the public memorial, the medal awarding rubbish.

Bah humbug.



Wouldn't you say that anyone who loses their life doing their job is a hero?


... doing their job with no intention of harming anyone.... if the station had suspicions of something badly wrong they would have taken more steps etc.... this was a war game that was one-sided... can't say I'm not happy they're dead - but they needed one alive to talk.... be interested to know how the sheila died.... police gunfire or .... generally she would be the weak link and readier to talk...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck


So, ask yourself.  Where were the heroics of the four?  Where was the act of valour by anyone of them? 

We are being snowed by emotive garbage.  Don't fall for it.

I want to make clear...I am not seeking to minimse the loss to the family of the deceased coppers, but I refuse to buy into this bravery crap until the authorities explain to me exactly what they are relying upon to deify these people who died doing the most menial of all possible police work.  Before they left to do the job, they were all said to be joking around and laughing about it.  It was mundane, a nothing job...hence the total absence/lack of preparation for what transpired.

Far cough with the emotive, the public memorial, the medal awarding rubbish.

Bah humbug.



Wouldn't you say that anyone who loses their life doing their job is a hero?


I know you asked Aussie (who I totally agree with) but let's all take a closer look at the term 'hero':
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:37pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:31pm:
...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour?  FMD ~  what fuqqing valour?  Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour?  Whaaaaaat!


Glad I missed seeing the sanitised REscripted mythologised summary of what really went down.

And what really went down was a botched up concocted "operation" by a bunch of rookies who were obeying the half baked orders of some cowboy - supervisor who's name is still unknown. 🥺


Yes that’s the part we don’t know… who ordered 4 cops to go locate a missing person.
And why is this kept from public? What’s being hidden from all this game?
Or was it not so much a missing person… but wanted by certain police.
Seems the missing person didn’t want to be known where his location was.
He’s not a missing child… so why so much emphasis to locate as a missing person?
And all this little set up warning alerts around their place was to warn them if anyone (cops) were approaching. I saw a vid of him saying the cops wanted him dead.
I’m thinking Aussie was correct from way back in this thread… the cops were never going to take them alive.


I don't see anything apart from one cock up after another in dealing with these people.

NSW Police website listed him as missing on 8th December if it was more serious he would be wanted and if they followed up on firearms offences there would have been possibly armed warning.

Sending 4 cops is not unusual 2 were rookies they could watch and learn. Sometimes not much happening in remote areas.

They posted youtube video during shootout appeared batshit crazy in bragging about killing police.

It's never going to end well if you kill police. There was no escape plan if you had Stinger missile maybe you could take out helicopter that tracks you with thermal imaging although unlikely as those thermal cameras can pick up man size person at 10-12 Km which might be out of range for missile. A Javelin missile would toast bearcat vehicle getting them to back off. In country area like that there is no escape against modern technology so unless they stopped shooting and surrendered it was always going to end with their deaths.

There are reports the offenders were Meth users so for me if toxicology from their autopsy shows Meth in their systems that would explain why this happened.

People become irrational and batshit crazy on Meth i think it's worse than Heroin.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 5:11am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck


So, ask yourself.  Where were the heroics of the four?  Where was the act of valour by anyone of them? 

We are being snowed by emotive garbage.  Don't fall for it.

I want to make clear...I am not seeking to minimse the loss to the family of the deceased coppers, but I refuse to buy into this bravery crap until the authorities explain to me exactly what they are relying upon to deify these people who died doing the most menial of all possible police work.  Before they left to do the job, they were all said to be joking around and laughing about it.  It was mundane, a nothing job...hence the total absence/lack of preparation for what transpired.

Far cough with the emotive, the public memorial, the medal awarding rubbish.

Bah humbug.



Wouldn't you say that anyone who loses their life doing their job is a hero?


... doing their job with no intention of harming anyone.... if the station had suspicions of something badly wrong they would have taken more steps etc.... this was a war game that was one-sided... can't say I'm not happy they're dead - but they needed one alive to talk.... be interested to know how the sheila died.... police gunfire or .... generally she would be the weak link and readier to talk...


There was a video somewhere that they made suring the siege but the police took it down

Spot

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:05am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:59pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:57pm:
the cops were never going to take them alive.


The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck



It's strange how fast that Bearcat armored vehicle got there.
I wonder where it was when they called for it to assist them?


It came from Brisbane - 3hrs 42min.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:27am
So soldiers who have sacrificied their lives not knowing what they faced and did nothing heroic apart from dying in a hail of bullets should be accessed for bravery before being celebrated as anything more than cannon fodder....Any police officer who dies in the line of duty deserves respect for their sacrifice....Who are we to judge their bravery in the line of fire???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am
Right then…. Consider this….
This man was toted as “missing” … not per se “wanted”.
Even though someone here mentioned he was known to police.

Now why would the NSW big knob cops be so determined to find a missing person … an adult… and knowing he’s alive…
…what was the huge importance there?
Known to cops? Yet have no history or record of doing any wrong?
So they had some association with cops?
Then they had to flee with their lives and go into hiding. Once found… goodness knows what fate awaited them with the big knobs.
You see…. something else went down and this ex prin exposed something at the time. Named names. He was a teacher and worked with children remember?
His life was at a point they knew they were cactus. Why then he suddenly fled?
I saw that video they made… they (male and female) stated “they came to kill us….”
They seemed very clear and not drug hazed at all.
When someone flees and goes into hiding… they are fearful… scared … and the nsw big knob who ever it was, ordered to go find them… knowing he would be scared. But didn’t know they were ready to defend themselves to the end… not give in… their lives were over whether captured alive or not. Either way… they chose death.
Now what was it that made a grown educated adult so fearfilled to have to flee?
Who was it that said he was a “missing person”?
Smoke and mirrors.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:40am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by reggie1963 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmUI907k2Gs


Hello, Reggie - welcome to the Pit ..... reason and decency welcomed..... all other approaches treated in kind.....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:48am

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.



Nobody said it was a 'crime' - but it is a matter of concern when someone reports a person missing and it is not unreasonable for steps to be taken to check that they are still alive etc and not lying in a ditch after a failed drug deal or something or dumped by abusive parents in a shallow grave... you know........

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:55am

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am:
Right then…. Consider this….
This man was toted as “missing” … not per se “wanted”.
Even though someone here mentioned he was known to police.

Now why would the NSW big knob cops be so determined to find a missing person … an adult… and knowing he’s alive…
…what was the huge importance there?
Known to cops? Yet have no history or record of doing any wrong?
So they had some association with cops?
Then they had to flee with their lives and go into hiding. Once found… goodness knows what fate awaited them with the big knobs.
You see…. something else went down and this ex prin exposed something at the time. Named names. He was a teacher and worked with children remember?
His life was at a point they knew they were cactus. Why then he suddenly fled?
I saw that video they made… they (male and female) stated “they came to kill us….”
They seemed very clear and not drug hazed at all.
When someone flees and goes into hiding… they are fearful… scared … and the nsw big knob who ever it was, ordered to go find them… knowing he would be scared. But didn’t know they were ready to defend themselves to the end… not give in… their lives were over whether captured alive or not. Either way… they chose death.
Now what was it that made a grown educated adult so fearfilled to have to flee?
Who was it that said he was a “missing person”?
Smoke and mirrors.


What a load of bullshit....The bloke was reported missing after a year and was not the target of any police investigation (unless you know different)....Defending mentally deranged killers with bullshit inuendo and conspiracies is trypical of right wing extreemists....These people were not heroes they were deranged killers who should not be defended by crap!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:56am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:57am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:01am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:55am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am:
Right then…. Consider this….
This man was toted as “missing” … not per se “wanted”.
Even though someone here mentioned he was known to police.

Now why would the NSW big knob cops be so determined to find a missing person … an adult… and knowing he’s alive…
…what was the huge importance there?
Known to cops? Yet have no history or record of doing any wrong?
So they had some association with cops?
Then they had to flee with their lives and go into hiding. Once found… goodness knows what fate awaited them with the big knobs.
You see…. something else went down and this ex prin exposed something at the time. Named names. He was a teacher and worked with children remember?
His life was at a point they knew they were cactus. Why then he suddenly fled?
I saw that video they made… they (male and female) stated “they came to kill us….”
They seemed very clear and not drug hazed at all.
When someone flees and goes into hiding… they are fearful… scared … and the nsw big knob who ever it was, ordered to go find them… knowing he would be scared. But didn’t know they were ready to defend themselves to the end… not give in… their lives were over whether captured alive or not. Either way… they chose death.
Now what was it that made a grown educated adult so fearfilled to have to flee?
Who was it that said he was a “missing person”?
Smoke and mirrors.


What a load of bullshit....The bloke was reported missing after a year and was not the target of any police investigation (unless you know different)....Defending mentally deranged killers with bullshit inuendo and conspiracies is trypical of right wing extreemists....These people were not heroes they were deranged killers who should not be defended by crap!!!

::) ::) ::)


There is more to this …. Pity that prin went into hiding after he initially did try to expose what was happening…
Did you ask yourself why he wanted to go off grid in such a sudden manner?
It wasn’t meth that did that…


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:04am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:05am
Well - some people manage to create their own fear.... and in a small enclosed and isolated situation, it is possible for a group of three to become equally paranoid... there's a lot of this going around - a small group in its own little world can develop the strangest ideas about the world outside and how it's all someone else's fault that they are afraid etc.... and they thus must strike out etc in 'self-defence'.....

I've seen this often in life... what I call the dope ring ... sitting around and talking absolute poo which magically transforms into a reality - you see it in cults.. you see it in drug users .... they develop a fear of the outside for the simple reason that they are aware they are 'running the borders' of society and may be open to sanction.... then they develop the idea that this can't be their fault so it must be someone else's fault.... society that is .... then - oh, look - the cops are coming up the drive to get us....

How many of those weird little cults have you seen or heard of, where people in them do strange things that they KNOW will lead to sanctions - and they then develop the philosophy that the rest of the world is at fault but never they...  The Humble Rock of the Lord or whatever cannot be wrong - he's a holy man who just happens to like young girls etc...

Same with this kind of insanity...... it's all self-justifying bullshit.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:07am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred


They were in contact with their son… just not physically. Hence why they hadn’t “seen” each other.
Fancy that… their contact was lost in “recent days” and wanted the cops to check on it?
There’s bs right there.
Makes no sense.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:08am
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:08am

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:01am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:55am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am:
Right then…. Consider this….
This man was toted as “missing” … not per se “wanted”.
Even though someone here mentioned he was known to police.

Now why would the NSW big knob cops be so determined to find a missing person … an adult… and knowing he’s alive…
…what was the huge importance there?
Known to cops? Yet have no history or record of doing any wrong?
So they had some association with cops?
Then they had to flee with their lives and go into hiding. Once found… goodness knows what fate awaited them with the big knobs.
You see…. something else went down and this ex prin exposed something at the time. Named names. He was a teacher and worked with children remember?
His life was at a point they knew they were cactus. Why then he suddenly fled?
I saw that video they made… they (male and female) stated “they came to kill us….”
They seemed very clear and not drug hazed at all.
When someone flees and goes into hiding… they are fearful… scared … and the nsw big knob who ever it was, ordered to go find them… knowing he would be scared. But didn’t know they were ready to defend themselves to the end… not give in… their lives were over whether captured alive or not. Either way… they chose death.
Now what was it that made a grown educated adult so fearfilled to have to flee?
Who was it that said he was a “missing person”?
Smoke and mirrors.


What a load of bullshit....The bloke was reported missing after a year and was not the target of any police investigation (unless you know different)....Defending mentally deranged killers with bullshit inuendo and conspiracies is trypical of right wing extreemists....These people were not heroes they were deranged killers who should not be defended by crap!!!

::) ::) ::)


There is more to this …. Pity that prin went into hiding after he initially did try to expose what was happening…
Did you ask yourself why he wanted to go off grid in such a sudden manner?
It wasn’t meth that did that…


Well - what WAS happening in his schools?  Were those Abo kids being cheated of an education opportunity or being cultivated for medical experiments or something?  What seems common to me here is an Aboriginal link and firearms....... and the current mode of increasingly violent insurrectionist activities.....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:16am

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:07am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred


They were in contact with their son… just not physically. Hence why they hadn’t “seen” each other.
Fancy that… their contact was lost in “recent days” and wanted the cops to check on it?
There’s bs right there.
Makes no sense.


Sophia is right!

Also contrary to the sanitised/approved/prepped pressers being released by the media ...the coppers from that LAC were in constant contact with the Trains via mobile and they knew who/where they were! The entire time! This missing person BS and welfare check BS is total cover up gastric BS by QLD Police!

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:22am
Don't forget that the holy man, ensconced in the isolated enclave and with a flock fed on only one reality, is then persecuted by Satan in the form of the state by being arrested for paedophilia etc and is tried by Pilate etc ... you know the paranoid drift...

People in an isolated situation can develop some weird ideas.. even in isolated villages they can't see that the real world is just a couple of hours away at most... even cops in remoter places - including the Deep North of NW NSW and SW Queensland + can lose sight of the reality that HQ is just a phone call away....and there the values can be very different....and it is the 21st Century and things move faster and relative distances are small.......

So why wouldn't a small group in inward-turning and paranoid people go the rat and see a couple of cops - unprepared and without guns in hands etc - as a dire threat and the start of The Holocaust/Genocide against them and their 'people' (whoever they may be)?

David Koresh anyone?

Madness, for sure....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:35am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:16am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:07am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred


They were in contact with their son… just not physically. Hence why they hadn’t “seen” each other.
Fancy that… their contact was lost in “recent days” and wanted the cops to check on it?
There’s bs right there.
Makes no sense.


Sophia is right!

Also contrary to the sanitised/approved/prepped pressers being released by the media ...the coppers from that LAC were in constant contact with the Trains via mobile and they knew who/where they were! The entire time! This missing person BS and welfare check BS is total cover up gastric BS by QLD Police!


I have not heard that....Do you have a link to support that claim???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:48am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:16am:
Sophia is right!

Also contrary to the sanitised/approved/prepped pressers being released by the media ...the coppers from that LAC were in constant contact with the Trains via mobile and they knew who/where they were! The entire time! This missing person BS and welfare check BS is total cover up gastric BS by QLD Police!


Haven't heard that before - is there a link?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:09pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:50am:
Proceeds of crime ............... confiscated in lieu of punishment via sentencing or fining or both and to cover costs of the police operation.


Punishment for who Graps? They're dead.

We know nothing adverse about the adult children left behind ....

it should be there call on what happens to that property ....

that's if there's going to be anything left of it ...

there's a bushfire alert for Wains Road Weiambilla today .... western side of Wains Road & that's where the Trains property is.

Very suspicious.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:17pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am:
Right then…. Consider this….
This man was toted as “missing” … not per se “wanted”.
Even though someone here mentioned he was known to police.

Now why would the NSW big knob cops be so determined to find a missing person … an adult… and knowing he’s alive…
…what was the huge importance there?
Known to cops? Yet have no history or record of doing any wrong?
So they had some association with cops?
Then they had to flee with their lives and go into hiding. Once found… goodness knows what fate awaited them with the big knobs.
You see…. something else went down and this ex prin exposed something at the time. Named names. He was a teacher and worked with children remember?
His life was at a point they knew they were cactus. Why then he suddenly fled?
I saw that video they made… they (male and female) stated “they came to kill us….”
They seemed very clear and not drug hazed at all.
When someone flees and goes into hiding… they are fearful… scared … and the nsw big knob who ever it was, ordered to go find them… knowing he would be scared. But didn’t know they were ready to defend themselves to the end… not give in… their lives were over whether captured alive or not. Either way… they chose death.
Now what was it that made a grown educated adult so fearfilled to have to flee?
Who was it that said he was a “missing person”?
Smoke and mirrors.



Gareth Train was known to cops .. the head teacher Nathaniel not.

But the incident of Nathaniel Train trying to crash through locked border gates  during Covid was known to Police and the fact that his vehicle he abandoned had weapons in it & weapons he'd thrown into flood water were found by farm workers.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:20pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



His family didn't report him missing dopey ... his former wife that his brother was now in a relationship with reported him missing.

Keep up. ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:23pm

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


i dunno about that - i had some major problems a few years ago when some arsehole reported me missing (i moved!).

Spot

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:01pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


Is that so arsehole....As I have never heard this perhaps you can post a link as your pathetic word is not worth crap....Also where did I ever claim anything that was not reported you wanker???

Put up or shut up cock sucker???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:45pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


Is that so arsehole....As I have never heard this perhaps you can post a link as your pathetic word is not worth crap....Also where did I ever claim anything that was not reported you wanker???

Put up or shut up cock sucker???

:-? :-? :-?


Read the thread phukkface

not everything reported initially in this case was correct

if you kept up with it you'd know. Dumb tnuc.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/missing-persons-report-sparked-vicious-fury-from-killer-brother-20221214-p5c6ey.html


Quote:
Missing persons report sparked ‘vicious’ fury from killer brother
Jordan Baker
ByJordan Baker
December 14, 2022 — 6.01pm

Conspiracy theorist Gareth Train bombarded his younger brother Nathaniel’s wife with threatening and vicious messages after she lodged a missing person’s report with NSW Police out of concern for her estranged husband’s welfare.

Police made a public appeal for Train, 46, complete with a photo, which was shared widely last week – including by his father, Toowoomba-based pastor, Ronald. A teacher who knows Nathaniel’s wife said she began receiving the messages shortly afterwards.

“She’d stopped hearing from him, so she got a missing person’s report,” said the person, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Then [Gareth] started sending a barrage of messages over her doing it. They were quite threatening messages.”

While working as a primary school principal in north-west NSW, Train had refused to get a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination, the teacher said. His sister-in-law Stacey, whom he had previously been married to, was a teacher in Queensland, also refused to be vaccinated.

Train moved to the north-west NSW town of Walgett from Queensland when he was appointed principal of the town’s primary school in mid-2020, but left after he suffered a heart attack in August 2021. His wife also worked at the school.

When she raised the alarm with police, Walgett officers sent the request for a welfare check directly to Darling Downs police station. When four police arrived at the remote home Gareth Train shared with his wife Stacey, Nathaniel was there too.


Now STFU you blithering idiot. 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:06pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


Is that so arsehole....As I have never heard this perhaps you can post a link as your pathetic word is not worth crap....Also where did I ever claim anything that was not reported you wanker???

Put up or shut up cock sucker???

:-? :-? :-?


Read the thread phukkface

not everything reported initially in this case was correct

if you kept up with it you'd know. Dumb tnuc.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/missing-persons-report-sparked-vicious-fury-from-killer-brother-20221214-p5c6ey.html

[quote]Missing persons report sparked ‘vicious’ fury from killer brother
Jordan Baker
ByJordan Baker
December 14, 2022 — 6.01pm

Conspiracy theorist Gareth Train bombarded his younger brother Nathaniel’s wife with threatening and vicious messages after she lodged a missing person’s report with NSW Police out of concern for her estranged husband’s welfare.

Police made a public appeal for Train, 46, complete with a photo, which was shared widely last week – including by his father, Toowoomba-based pastor, Ronald. A teacher who knows Nathaniel’s wife said she began receiving the messages shortly afterwards.

“She’d stopped hearing from him, so she got a missing person’s report,” said the person, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Then [Gareth] started sending a barrage of messages over her doing it. They were quite threatening messages.”

While working as a primary school principal in north-west NSW, Train had refused to get a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination, the teacher said. His sister-in-law Stacey, whom he had previously been married to, was a teacher in Queensland, also refused to be vaccinated.

Train moved to the north-west NSW town of Walgett from Queensland when he was appointed principal of the town’s primary school in mid-2020, but left after he suffered a heart attack in August 2021. His wife also worked at the school.

When she raised the alarm with police, Walgett officers sent the request for a welfare check directly to Darling Downs police station. When four police arrived at the remote home Gareth Train shared with his wife Stacey, Nathaniel was there too.


Now STFU you blithering idiot.  [/quote]

Thank's for the link cock sucker....I never reported anything that was not in the media you dickhead....What exacly did I post that was wrong you wanker???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:20pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


Is that so arsehole....As I have never heard this perhaps you can post a link as your pathetic word is not worth crap....Also where did I ever claim anything that was not reported you wanker???

Put up or shut up cock sucker???

:-? :-? :-?


Read the thread phukkface

not everything reported initially in this case was correct

if you kept up with it you'd know. Dumb tnuc.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/missing-persons-report-sparked-vicious-fury-from-killer-brother-20221214-p5c6ey.html

[quote]Missing persons report sparked ‘vicious’ fury from killer brother
Jordan Baker
ByJordan Baker
December 14, 2022 — 6.01pm

Conspiracy theorist Gareth Train bombarded his younger brother Nathaniel’s wife with threatening and vicious messages after she lodged a missing person’s report with NSW Police out of concern for her estranged husband’s welfare.

Police made a public appeal for Train, 46, complete with a photo, which was shared widely last week – including by his father, Toowoomba-based pastor, Ronald. A teacher who knows Nathaniel’s wife said she began receiving the messages shortly afterwards.

“She’d stopped hearing from him, so she got a missing person’s report,” said the person, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Then [Gareth] started sending a barrage of messages over her doing it. They were quite threatening messages.”

While working as a primary school principal in north-west NSW, Train had refused to get a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination, the teacher said. His sister-in-law Stacey, whom he had previously been married to, was a teacher in Queensland, also refused to be vaccinated.

Train moved to the north-west NSW town of Walgett from Queensland when he was appointed principal of the town’s primary school in mid-2020, but left after he suffered a heart attack in August 2021. His wife also worked at the school.

When she raised the alarm with police, Walgett officers sent the request for a welfare check directly to Darling Downs police station. When four police arrived at the remote home Gareth Train shared with his wife Stacey, Nathaniel was there too.


Now STFU you blithering idiot. 


Thank's for the link cock sucker....I never reported anything that was not in the media you dickhead....What exacly did I post that was wrong you wanker???

:-? :-? :-?[/quote]

you posted old fake news phukkface

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:26pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:20pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


Is that so arsehole....As I have never heard this perhaps you can post a link as your pathetic word is not worth crap....Also where did I ever claim anything that was not reported you wanker???

Put up or shut up cock sucker???

:-? :-? :-?


Read the thread phukkface

not everything reported initially in this case was correct

if you kept up with it you'd know. Dumb tnuc.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/missing-persons-report-sparked-vicious-fury-from-killer-brother-20221214-p5c6ey.html

[quote]Missing persons report sparked ‘vicious’ fury from killer brother
Jordan Baker
ByJordan Baker
December 14, 2022 — 6.01pm

Conspiracy theorist Gareth Train bombarded his younger brother Nathaniel’s wife with threatening and vicious messages after she lodged a missing person’s report with NSW Police out of concern for her estranged husband’s welfare.

Police made a public appeal for Train, 46, complete with a photo, which was shared widely last week – including by his father, Toowoomba-based pastor, Ronald. A teacher who knows Nathaniel’s wife said she began receiving the messages shortly afterwards.

“She’d stopped hearing from him, so she got a missing person’s report,” said the person, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Then [Gareth] started sending a barrage of messages over her doing it. They were quite threatening messages.”

While working as a primary school principal in north-west NSW, Train had refused to get a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination, the teacher said. His sister-in-law Stacey, whom he had previously been married to, was a teacher in Queensland, also refused to be vaccinated.

Train moved to the north-west NSW town of Walgett from Queensland when he was appointed principal of the town’s primary school in mid-2020, but left after he suffered a heart attack in August 2021. His wife also worked at the school.

When she raised the alarm with police, Walgett officers sent the request for a welfare check directly to Darling Downs police station. When four police arrived at the remote home Gareth Train shared with his wife Stacey, Nathaniel was there too.


Now STFU you blithering idiot. 


Thank's for the link cock sucker....I never reported anything that was not in the media you dickhead....What exacly did I post that was wrong you wanker???

:-? :-? :-?


you posted old fake news phukkface[/quote]

Bullshit the police investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated....The wankers no doubt visited the same extremist sites you frequent....You are a complete dickhead ball sack!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:26pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:20pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


Is that so arsehole....As I have never heard this perhaps you can post a link as your pathetic word is not worth crap....Also where did I ever claim anything that was not reported you wanker???

Put up or shut up cock sucker???

:-? :-? :-?


Read the thread phukkface

not everything reported initially in this case was correct

if you kept up with it you'd know. Dumb tnuc.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/missing-persons-report-sparked-vicious-fury-from-killer-brother-20221214-p5c6ey.html

[quote]Missing persons report sparked ‘vicious’ fury from killer brother
Jordan Baker
ByJordan Baker
December 14, 2022 — 6.01pm

Conspiracy theorist Gareth Train bombarded his younger brother Nathaniel’s wife with threatening and vicious messages after she lodged a missing person’s report with NSW Police out of concern for her estranged husband’s welfare.

Police made a public appeal for Train, 46, complete with a photo, which was shared widely last week – including by his father, Toowoomba-based pastor, Ronald. A teacher who knows Nathaniel’s wife said she began receiving the messages shortly afterwards.

“She’d stopped hearing from him, so she got a missing person’s report,” said the person, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Then [Gareth] started sending a barrage of messages over her doing it. They were quite threatening messages.”

While working as a primary school principal in north-west NSW, Train had refused to get a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination, the teacher said. His sister-in-law Stacey, whom he had previously been married to, was a teacher in Queensland, also refused to be vaccinated.

Train moved to the north-west NSW town of Walgett from Queensland when he was appointed principal of the town’s primary school in mid-2020, but left after he suffered a heart attack in August 2021. His wife also worked at the school.

When she raised the alarm with police, Walgett officers sent the request for a welfare check directly to Darling Downs police station. When four police arrived at the remote home Gareth Train shared with his wife Stacey, Nathaniel was there too.


Now STFU you blithering idiot. 


Thank's for the link cock sucker....I never reported anything that was not in the media you dickhead....What exacly did I post that was wrong you wanker???

:-? :-? :-?


you posted old fake news phukkface


Bullshit the police investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated....The wankers no doubt visited the same extremist sites you frequent....You are a copmplete dickhead ball sack!!!

:) :) :)[/quote]

made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!



Quote:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:02pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm:
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!


[quote]made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)

[/quote]


The original statement relating to the incident didn't state a family member or who that was ...

the just said "by family" - which you repeated - I told you exactly who made the missing persons report.... Stacey Train ... you didn't know it was her.

She was involved throughout everything ... so don't you think it suspicious that all 3 were at the Wain road property when Police arrived to investigate the MPR?

Then again you don't think much just spew delusional BS you halfbaked twerp.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:15pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm:
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!


[quote]made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)



The original statement relating to the incident didn't state a family member or who that was ...

the just said "by family" - which you repeated - I told you exactly who made the missing persons report.... Stacey Train ... you didn't know it was her.

She was involved throughout everything ... so don't you think it suspicious that all 3 were at the Wain road property when Police arrived to investigate the MPR?

Then again you don't think much just spew delusional BS you halfbaked twerp.

[/quote]

I have never disputed or argued Stacey Train did not make the missing persons report....My response was to the question who made the report....My statement is still correct and was not meant to be mallicious or missleading....Your over reaction and dummy spitting over SFA reveals your true nature ball sack....You are a dickhead???

:) :) :)


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:17pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm:
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!


[quote]made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)



The original statement relating to the incident didn't state a family member or who that was ...

the just said "by family" - which you repeated - I told you exactly who made the missing persons report.... Stacey Train ... you didn't know it was her.

She was involved throughout everything ... so don't you think it suspicious that all 3 were at the Wain road property when Police arrived to investigate the MPR?

Then again you don't think much just spew delusional BS you halfbaked twerp.

[/quote]

phil's gone off the rails into abuse etc.... you can't reason with him now.... the fuse is blown...

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:18pm
Popcorn, Igor - in another 42 minutes we'll crack a coldie... this is getting better by the minute....

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:24pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:17pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm:
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!


[quote]made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)



The original statement relating to the incident didn't state a family member or who that was ...

the just said "by family" - which you repeated - I told you exactly who made the missing persons report.... Stacey Train ... you didn't know it was her.

She was involved throughout everything ... so don't you think it suspicious that all 3 were at the Wain road property when Police arrived to investigate the MPR?

Then again you don't think much just spew delusional BS you halfbaked twerp.


phil's gone off the rails into abuse etc.... you can't reason with him now.... the fuse is blown...
[/quote]

Ball sack started the abuse fatso....I note you excuse his behaviour as usual....Suckhole!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:27pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?


An entirely different issue and proberbly correct....However the police believed they were responding to a missing persons report made by a concerned family member, not a setup....I fail to see what ball sacks arguing about???

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 7:28pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?


No, not by itself.  Read.  This corrects much of the stuff above in the last two pages here.

Link.

Coppers had been there several times and found no-one in attendance.  This was in relation to wanting to see Nathaniel about his COVID border breach and dumping those rifles in a creek.

Note also these words:


Quote:
'Run-of-the-mill job'

Deputy Commissioner Linford said it was normal for police to visit the property of family members when following up a missing person report.

"This was a run-of-the-mill policing job. There wasn't anything to flag particular concern with our members who were attending the scene that day.

"His brother and sister-in-law, who was previously actually his wife, did reside at the address," she said.


Heroics, valour...my arse!







Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:32pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:23pm:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


i dunno about that - i had some major problems a few years ago when some arsehole reported me missing (i moved!).

Spot


😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆

Title: Respected Principal To Evil Police Killer
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:37pm
https://7news.com.au/news/qld/who-is-nathaniel-train-respected-regional-school-principal-to-evil-police-killer-c-9144306.amp

The media's storyline continues 👆- RESPECTED PRINCIPAL TO EVIL POLICE KILLER

Note 👇

"There is evidence Train was a dedicated educator up to the point he lost physical contact - while maintaining verbal contact - with loved ones in October last year."

So Nathaniel wasn't REALLY missing then.


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:50pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 7:28pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?


No, not by itself.  Read.  This corrects much of the stuff above in the last two pages here.

Link.

Coppers had been there several times and found no-one in attendance.  This was in relation to wanting to see Nathaniel about his COVID border breach and dumping those rifles in a creek.

Note also these words:


Quote:
'Run-of-the-mill job'

Deputy Commissioner Linford said it was normal for police to visit the property of family members when following up a missing person report.

"This was a run-of-the-mill policing job. There wasn't anything to flag particular concern with our members who were attending the scene that day.

"His brother and sister-in-law, who was previously actually his wife, did reside at the address," she said.


Heroics, valour...my arse!



Merci... very revealing.... so the highers walked these young cops into this ambush?  Firearms offences and they go in unprepared?

So again I ask - to whom was he linked to commit these firearms transporting offences.... that is why they needed one alive....

Was she killed by one of their own firearms to ensure her silence?  Or perhaps the other brother?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:53pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 7:28pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?


No, not by itself.  Read.  This corrects much of the stuff above in the last two pages here.

Link.

Coppers had been there several times and found no-one in attendance.  This was in relation to wanting to see Nathaniel about his COVID border breach and dumping those rifles in a creek.

Note also these words:


Quote:
'Run-of-the-mill job'

Deputy Commissioner Linford said it was normal for police to visit the property of family members when following up a missing person report.

"This was a run-of-the-mill policing job. There wasn't anything to flag particular concern with our members who were attending the scene that day.

"His brother and sister-in-law, who was previously actually his wife, did reside at the address," she said.


Heroics, valour...my arse!



Merci... very revealing.... so the highers walked these young cops into this ambush?  Firearms offences and they go in unprepared?

So again I ask - to whom was he linked to commit these firearms transporting offences.... that is why they needed one alive....

Was she killed by one of their own firearms to ensure her silence?  Or perhaps the other brother?


Grappler I bet their neighbour was killed by police too in all the confusion.

In short :  no non police witnesses were left alive.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:57pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:24pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:17pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm:
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!


[quote]made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)



The original statement relating to the incident didn't state a family member or who that was ...

the just said "by family" - which you repeated - I told you exactly who made the missing persons report.... Stacey Train ... you didn't know it was her.

She was involved throughout everything ... so don't you think it suspicious that all 3 were at the Wain road property when Police arrived to investigate the MPR?

Then again you don't think much just spew delusional BS you halfbaked twerp.


phil's gone off the rails into abuse etc.... you can't reason with him now.... the fuse is blown...


Ball sack started the abuse fatso....I note you excuse his behaviour as usual....Suckhole!!!

:) :) :)[/quote]

Fatso?  Suckhole?

I suppose you call that Lefty style debating.... talk about puerile - pee-you-ee- ar-aye-ell-ee ...I'll eddicate ya yet... we'll move on to the fine art of insult later... always remember the way to take the sails out of a rampaging ideologue is to take the piste out of them - laughter IS the best medicine... look what Charlie Chaplin did to Adolph Hitler....

Title: Re: Respected Principal To Evil Police Killer
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:58pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:37pm:
https://7news.com.au/news/qld/who-is-nathaniel-train-respected-regional-school-principal-to-evil-police-killer-c-9144306.amp

The media's storyline continues 👆- RESPECTED PRINCIPAL TO EVIL POLICE KILLER

Note 👇

"There is evidence Train was a dedicated educator up to the point he lost physical contact - while maintaining verbal contact - with loved ones in October last year."

So Nathaniel wasn't REALLY missing then.



Weirder and weirder .......

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 9:08pm
What each was killed by should come out in the coroner's reports... I trust the police involved turned in each individual firearm after the event for forensic testing.

Remember what I said about the military acting under civil authority within Australia (or Britain etc as at the Iranian embassy) - all weapons used are handed in for full testing especially ballistics to show who shot who.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 9:11pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:57pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:24pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:17pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm:
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!


[quote]made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)



The original statement relating to the incident didn't state a family member or who that was ...

the just said "by family" - which you repeated - I told you exactly who made the missing persons report.... Stacey Train ... you didn't know it was her.

She was involved throughout everything ... so don't you think it suspicious that all 3 were at the Wain road property when Police arrived to investigate the MPR?

Then again you don't think much just spew delusional BS you halfbaked twerp.


phil's gone off the rails into abuse etc.... you can't reason with him now.... the fuse is blown...


Ball sack started the abuse fatso....I note you excuse his behaviour as usual....Suckhole!!!

:) :) :)


Fatso?  Suckhole?

I suppose you call that Lefty style debating.... talk about puerile - pee-you-ee- ar-aye-ell-ee ...I'll eddicate ya yet... we'll move on to the fine art of insult later... always remember the way to take the sails out of a rampaging ideologue is to take the piste out of them - laughter IS the best medicine... look what Charlie Chaplin did to Adolph Hitler....
[/quote]

I am not debating you Crappler....I am calling you out on your hypocricy....Ballsack started the abuse over SFA....You stuck up for him because you are also a right wing arsehole who thinks he is debating when he is trolling....Dickhead!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:27pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 7:28pm:
No, not by itself.  Read.  This corrects much of the stuff above in the last two pages here.

Link.

Coppers had been there several times and found no-one in attendance.  This was in relation to wanting to see Nathaniel about his COVID border breach and dumping those rifles

Heroics, valour...my arse!


So were they looking for a missing person or following up on a warrant for firearms offences and border crossing?

Qld police from Goondawindi took the statements and firearms that were dumped in a creek so Qld police were aware of his firearms offences.

The ABC has reported on 3 illegal guns yet they were all illegally owned since his alleged license was suspended. The police should have confiscated any legally owned guns the day his license was suspended.

The Palace chook asking for a national gun register is a deflection. We already have one so she is lying or ignorant.


Quote:
Page 63

The National Firearms Licensing and Registration System is available 24 hours a
day, seven days a week, including three hours of scheduled outages per week for
routine maintenance and upgrades.

This year, the National Firearms Licensing and Registration System continued to support the work of our police partner agencies’ firearms registry teams as well as operational policing work.The reliance on this system is reflected in usage trends and the steady increase in the number of firearms and licences registered within the national system.
Our approved external agencies also continue to use the system as a valuable reference tool for non-police law enforcement purposes.

https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-08/crimtrac_ar_2015-16_final_071016.pdf


Not being aware of  national firearm registration should not be spun into we need one to deflect from numerous cock ups from police.

In NSW the Edwards guy who shot his kids was given a commissioners permit to own firearms the coronial inquest found police failed to check his background on domestic violence. It's not unprecedented for police to cock things up then try to blame others for their failures.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39pm
No hypocrisy here - you're the one who lost it and started screaming names at people instead of discussing..... if I defend Gnads or anyone else for that - that is all well and good and above.

No hypocrisy anyway - since I generally - though not always - agree with Gnads moderate views.

I'm just enjoying thepopcorn and cold beer - mothra - The Wicked Witch Of The West Of Sydney is back with us to set us right on everything... Mothra Superior ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqkowVU5mZI

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:46pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 11:01am:
There is more to this …. Pity that prin went into hiding after he initially did try to expose what was happening…
Did you ask yourself why he wanted to go off grid in such a sudden manner?
It wasn’t meth that did that…


Was it reported he had a heart attack? Perhaps he wanted less stress in his life

Going off the grid is nothing i know many people who would embrace that life. It's quite relaxing compared to big city life.

I had a cousin who killed himself 21 years ago he shot himself with an illegal pistol he was a meth addict. He caused quite a bit of grief for our family for months lost his job lost his wife lost everything.

They don't zone out like zombies like potheads and junkies on meth they can be mentally sharp and with it. The video they posted showed that. Where you notice it with meth is the looney conspiracy stuff which would be the bit about cops coming to kill them. Who fired first?

The cameras and surveillance stuff was quite common with my cousins associates 21 years ago they get paranoid on that stuff.

There was no escape plan only a lunatic would think they could get away with killing police. They were never going to escape in that location they were outgunned and outnumbered they were never going to win in a shootout.

The toxicology report will shed light on this going by neighbor reports on their meth usage i would say that's most likely cause.

The numerous cock ups from police is normal i don't see any conspiracy there.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by The Grappler on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:50pm
Me right wing....



I'm miles left of the Dalai Lama and Julia Gillard.... I stand for ALL the people - which these days makes me an extreme radical and an enemy of the state and a danger to society.....

Wave to me as I sail away to my sanctuary in The Azores.... you're welcome to the madness...

I don't believe in Policies and Agendas and Causes and Programs and Issues - I believe in PEOPLE first - all of them equally.  Clearly you do not, hence it is you who are the hypocrite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMFntyPFlqI


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:57pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:57pm:
Fatso?  Suckhole?

I suppose you call that Lefty style debating.... talk about puerile - pee-you-ee- ar-aye-ell-ee ...I'll eddicate ya yet... we'll move on to the fine art of insult later... always remember the way to take the sails out of a rampaging ideologue is to take the piste out of them - laughter IS the best medicine... look what Charlie Chaplin did to Adolph Hitler....


Ha, ha...  love your work.   Comedy gold.   Keep it up mate!    ;D



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 7:25am

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


This was ballsacks first reply to me Crappler where he called me a dickhead first....Why don't you pull up right wing arseholes who start the abuse instead of defending their crap with bullshit???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:08am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:49pm:
You are a dickhead ball sack....Was Stacy Train not a family member....The police were investigating a missing persons report made by a family member which is what I stated in the beginning....I have made no assumptions or comment on motive....You are just a right wing wanker trolling for conflict.....You found it cock sucker!!!


Quote:
Bullshit the police were investigated a missing persons report made by the family as I stated!!!


[quote]made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.


Idiot!!!

::) ::) ::)



The original statement relating to the incident didn't state a family member or who that was ...

the just said "by family" - which you repeated - I told you exactly who made the missing persons report.... Stacey Train ... you didn't know it was her.

She was involved throughout everything ... so don't you think it suspicious that all 3 were at the Wain road property when Police arrived to investigate the MPR?

Then again you don't think much just spew delusional BS you halfbaked twerp.


I have never disputed or argued Stacey Train did not make the missing persons report....My response was to the question who made the report....My statement is still correct and was not meant to be mallicious or missleading....Your over reaction and dummy spitting over SFA reveals your true nature ball sack....You are a dickhead???

:) :) :)

[/quote]

Yeah of course - you playing down excuse making numpty. ::)


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:10am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:27pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?


An entirely different issue and proberbly correct....However the police believed they were responding to a missing persons report made by a concerned family member, not a setup....I fail to see what ball sacks arguing about???

::) ::) ::)


Get a white cane & a labrador ya donkey.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:18am

Aussie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 7:28pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?


No, not by itself.  Read.  This corrects much of the stuff above in the last two pages here.

Link.

Coppers had been there several times and found no-one in attendance.  This was in relation to wanting to see Nathaniel about his COVID border breach and dumping those rifles in a creek.

Note also these words:


Quote:
'Run-of-the-mill job'

Deputy Commissioner Linford said it was normal for police to visit the property of family members when following up a missing person report.

"This was a run-of-the-mill policing job. There wasn't anything to flag particular concern with our members who were attending the scene that day.

"His brother and sister-in-law, who was previously actually his wife, did reside at the address," she said.


Heroics, valour...my arse!


Aussie the link is only 20 hrs old ... that's further revelation after the fact.

I mentioned Nathaniels border crashing & gun running back a bit.

Bottom line is the cops were well aware of the form both brothers had before this incident.

So considering Gareths prior run ins with Police & the fact there was a warrant for Nathaniel regarding firearms offences why were rookie cops sent to the property obviously unprepared?

Responsibility for this outcome has to be kicked higher up the chain of command and heads should roll.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:25am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 7:25am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


This was ballsacks first reply to me Crappler where he called me a dickhead first....Why don't you pull up right wing arseholes who start the abuse instead of defending their crap with bullshit???

:-? :-? :-?


;D I got in first because that's how you usually respond to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You've got the shytes because you can't take your own medicine.

Ya wimpy girlie skirt.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:54am

Gnads wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 7:25am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


This was ballsacks first reply to me Crappler where he called me a dickhead first....Why don't you pull up right wing arseholes who start the abuse instead of defending their crap with bullshit???

:-? :-? :-?


;D I got in first because that's how you usually respond to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You've got the shytes because you can't take your own medicine.

Ya wimpy girlie skirt.


You are a troll who instigated the abuse ya wanker....I am civil to those who do not abuse me first....You threw the first tanty ya dickhead over SFA and got your own medicine back....Now you are trying to justify your abuse by blaming me....You low life dickhead!!!

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Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Unknown, Hanlon's Razor

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 9:02am

Gnads wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:10am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:27pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
made by Stacey Train - not anyone else in the family ..... she who was with the 2 brothers.

I don't visit extremists sites

why would I when I can come here and see phukkin idiots like you in action? ;D ;D



The plot thickens and thickens .... so she drew the cops to the property?


An entirely different issue and proberbly correct....However the police believed they were responding to a missing persons report made by a concerned family member, not a setup....I fail to see what ball sacks arguing about???

::) ::) ::)


Get a white cane & a labrador ya donkey.


You are too stupid to realise I never disputed Stacy Train called the cops....You are too stupid to accept you are arguing about SFA....You are a dickhead....Best you stick to mastubating with your other right wing wanker mates!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 9:46am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:54am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 7:25am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


This was ballsacks first reply to me Crappler where he called me a dickhead first....Why don't you pull up right wing arseholes who start the abuse instead of defending their crap with bullshit???

:-? :-? :-?


;D I got in first because that's how you usually respond to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You've got the shytes because you can't take your own medicine.

Ya wimpy girlie skirt.


You are a troll who instigated the abuse ya wanker....I am civil to those who do not abuse me first....You threw the first tanty ya dickhead over SFA and got your own medicine back....Now you are trying to justify your abuse by blaming me....You low life dickhead!!!

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Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Unknown, Hanlon's Razor


Liar

no 2nd prizes  :'( :'( :'( :'( boohoo

If the cap fits wear it dickhead

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 10:05am

Gnads wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 9:46am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:54am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 7:25am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:47am:

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
It is not a crime in any state to go "MISSING".

You do not have to tell anyone where you are.


Because the Police look for missing people you drongo....Would you prefer the police ignored missing person reports because the person may not want to be found???

::) ::) ::)


Missing person reports?
Who reported that?
This prin took great lengths to “protect” himself  and not found. Set up warning triggers all around property.


His family were concerned for his safety you clown....What are you claiming with your bullshit claims mate???


Quote:
A statement by NSW police issued five days ago said that Train had been in contact with family members in October, but that they had been unable to contact him recently and held “serious concerns” for his welfare.

Sources say the Queensland officers, from Tara, went to the Wieambilla property at the request of NSW police. The Queensland police union says the inquiry was “routine” until unknown people at the property began shooting at officers.

It is not known whether Train was at the property.

The Queensland police commissioner, Katarina Carroll, on Tuesday confirmed Train had not seen his family since 2021, but recently had stopped all contact with them.

“That contact was lost in recent days and they just wanted to check on that missing person,” she said.


:-? :-? :-?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/13/police-were-searching-for-missing-school-principal-nathaniel-train-when-wieambilla-shooting-occurred



Stacey Train reported him missing dickhead.

Gareth Train gave her a right serve for doing so

if you've read so much how did you miss that?

Anyway he was there with them both so it seems like a set up.


This was ballsacks first reply to me Crappler where he called me a dickhead first....Why don't you pull up right wing arseholes who start the abuse instead of defending their crap with bullshit???

:-? :-? :-?


;D I got in first because that's how you usually respond to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You've got the shytes because you can't take your own medicine.

Ya wimpy girlie skirt.


You are a troll who instigated the abuse ya wanker....I am civil to those who do not abuse me first....You threw the first tanty ya dickhead over SFA and got your own medicine back....Now you are trying to justify your abuse by blaming me....You low life dickhead!!!

[smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif]

Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Unknown, Hanlon's Razor


Liar

no 2nd prizes  :'( :'( :'( :'( boohoo

If the cap fits wear it dickhead


You are pathetic!!!

::) ::) ::)

He who strikes the first blow admits he's lost the argument.
Chinese Proverb

Title: Re: Respected Principal To Evil Police Killer
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 10:42am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:58pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 8:37pm:
https://7news.com.au/news/qld/who-is-nathaniel-train-respected-regional-school-principal-to-evil-police-killer-c-9144306.amp

The media's storyline continues 👆- RESPECTED PRINCIPAL TO EVIL POLICE KILLER

Note 👇

"There is evidence Train was a dedicated educator up to the point he lost physical contact - while maintaining verbal contact - with loved ones in October last year."

So Nathaniel wasn't REALLY missing then.



Weirder and weirder .......


Of course it is. It's being made up as it's going along.

Note : I'm of course referring to what is being allowed to go to press. What really went down will never be released.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 1:57pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 10:42am:
Of course it is. It's being made up as it's going along.

Note : I'm of course referring to what is being allowed to go to press. What really went down will never be released.


The premature bulldust is to save the skins of the incompetent authorities ... they get in quick so we can't think any different about the event, it's orchestrated brainwashing of the general public who might otherwise think of the offenders as martyrs

We heard about them being extremist far-right conspiratorial sovereign citizens early on, but later on, we then heard they had no connection with any far-right groups

Everything was their own doing, but Gareth would have been the worst instigator I reckon. If Nathaniel had stayed away from Gareth, he might have been alright, he got married again and he and his new wife were planning to build a house in Moruya, on the south coast of NSW. His new wife put out the missing persons alert


You can only read this link once if you haven't read it already ... read it right through. It's the best I've seen so far, but there's still some info missing, like why did Nathaniel stay away from his new wife? and why did he end up with Gareth and Stacey in Qld?

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/strange-triangle-between-two-teachers-and-a-controlling-brother-led-to-tragedy-20221215-p5c6m1.html



Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 11:50pm
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Title: It Was A Welfare Check....
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 27th, 2022 at 6:36am
MMM 👇

It Was A Welfare Check

It Was A Welfare Check

It Was A Welfare Check

Did we mention that it was a WELFARE CHECK?

Police were killed whilst conducting a WELFARE CHECK on a member of the community.


Oh and there was a warrant out for his arrest. We might need to mention that. Now.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Feb 16th, 2023 at 7:07pm
Terrorist attack my arse.  Why do the Coppers always try to sex this garbage up?

Three religious nuts had the schits with coppers, ambushed and murdered them.

That's it.

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 16th, 2023 at 7:23pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 16th, 2023 at 7:07pm:
Terrorist attack my arse.  Why do the Coppers always try to sex this garbage up?

Three religious nuts had the schits with coppers, ambushed and murdered them.

That's it.


Ex religious nutters. 😎


Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 16th, 2023 at 7:07pm:
Terrorist attack my arse.  Why do the Coppers always try to sex this garbage up?

Three religious nuts had the schits with coppers, ambushed and murdered them.

That's it.


Why do politicians call for a national firearms registry is it to distract from police failures with our gun laws?



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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Gnads on Feb 19th, 2023 at 9:23am

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 1:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 10:42am:
Of course it is. It's being made up as it's going along.

Note : I'm of course referring to what is being allowed to go to press. What really went down will never be released.


The premature bulldust is to save the skins of the incompetent authorities ... they get in quick so we can't think any different about the event, it's orchestrated brainwashing of the general public who might otherwise think of the offenders as martyrs

We heard about them being extremist far-right conspiratorial sovereign citizens early on, but later on, we then heard they had no connection with any far-right groups

Everything was their own doing, but Gareth would have been the worst instigator I reckon. If Nathaniel had stayed away from Gareth, he might have been alright, he got married again and he and his new wife were planning to build a house in Moruya, on the south coast of NSW. His new wife put out the missing persons alert


You can only read this link once if you haven't read it already ... read it right through. It's the best I've seen so far, but there's still some info missing, like why did Nathaniel stay away from his new wife? and why did he end up with Gareth and Stacey in Qld?

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/strange-triangle-between-two-teachers-and-a-controlling-brother-led-to-tragedy-20221215-p5c6m1.html


It's certainly not the best.

I took this little bit as an example of bs in media reporting.

I attended this school as a kid ... & it was never ever to my knowledge(my sister still lives in Innisfail) classed as a "disadvantaged school."
The town has a population of over 7,000.


Quote:
At Innisfail East state school he was praised for improving the school’s results to the point where it was among a handful of disadvantaged schools across the country to score above average in basic skills tests. 

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Mar 8th, 2023 at 10:49pm
Still something not right about this.
Some interesting queries in interviews below.

Part 1.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8QTqWrw/

Part 2.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8QT4DTR/

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Mar 8th, 2023 at 10:50pm
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Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Sophia on Mar 8th, 2023 at 10:50pm
**

Title: Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Post by Aussie on Mar 9th, 2023 at 4:00pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 8th, 2023 at 10:49pm:
Still something not right about this.
Some interesting queries in interviews below.

Part 1.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8QTqWrw/

Part 2.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8QT4DTR/


LOLS,

I don't need to hear from some random ex copper to know that this is a charade, all being staged to make very routine very ordinary conduct by people appear as 'brave' or 'heroic.'

It was nothing other than cold blooded planned murder which three people who perished walked straight into eyes (not) wide open.

I have said so from the beginning and I will continue to say so until I see/hear evidence at the Inquests otherwise.

We plebs get 'romanced' 'emoted' into considering total garbage by arseholes who have their appalling failures to cover up as 7th Cavalry/George Custer heroics.

Bullshit.

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