I went to college in Colorado Springs. Even back then it was a Christofascist shithole and now it's a MAGA weed shithole full of the most crazy right-wing fundies thanks to f-ktards like Focus on the Family and F A T-as-f -k transplant Texxuns and shitbred Californians


"Five people are dead and 18 others are injured following a shooting at a nightclub in Colorado Springs late Saturday night.

One suspect is in police custody and is being treated for injuries at a local hospital.

The shooting at Club Q, an LGBTQ club in northeast Colorado Springs, is under investigation, according to Lt. Pamela Castro, a spokeswoman with the Colorado Springs Police Department. The FBI is assisting in the investigation, the agency's Denver office said on Twitter.

Club Q said it was devastated by the attack and called the incident a hate crime in a Facebook post Sunday morning."


Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate.

https://youtu.be/TjRSj5a_jgY

Marla wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:29am:

Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate.

Indeed.

Hate and violence.  It's what they live for.

Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer?

Simply another ordinary day in America.  Just add these 5 new deaths to
this year's total.     Nobody there will notice.. or care.    Ho hum...

https://i.postimg.cc/L8YF5tHL/Screenshot-2022-11-21-at-06-02-37-Statistics-Giffords.png

This glorification of the great firearms deity is indicative of an increasing
sickness by the American public.    Firearms (110) are now killing nearly
half as many people a day as COVID (286).

America has the weakest gun laws and the most guns—393 million—of
any comparable nation.       The US accounts for just 4% of the world’s
population but 35% of global firearm suicides.  Americans are 25 times
more likely to be killed in a gun homicide than people in other high-income
countries.

>:(

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:53am:

Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer?

Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee?

That's a question.

Not another mass shooting - bloody guns - they're a curse as
they always end up in the hands of nut cases.

This is a sad event, but unfortunately not uncommon in the US. But instead of waiting for the police statement,  the usual suspects have decided it is some sort of right wing hate crime conspiracy. probably organised by Donald Trump.  ::)

While it may well be an anti gay crime, equally it could be a jilted gay lover or just a lunatic with no motive other than his own gratification. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63693310


Club Q Colorado shooting:
Suspect held after five killed in attack at nightclub

    Published

4 hours ago



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At least five people have been killed and 25 injured after a gunman opened fire inside a gay club in the US state of Colorado on Saturday night.

A suspect is in police custody and is being treated for injuries. Two "heroic" people in the club subdued the attacker, police say.

Club Q, in Colorado Springs, wrote on Facebook that it was "devastated by the senseless attack" on its community.

US President Joe Biden said Americans "cannot and must not tolerate hate".

Police asked people to be patient while they worked to identify victims and finalise the number of casualties, adding that some people had taken themselves to hospital.

Officers received an initial emergency call about an active shooter at 23:57 (06:57 GMT) on Saturday, they said.

The suspect was found inside the club. Two firearms were found at the scene, and the attacker is thought to have used a long rifle.

Police did not suggest a motive for the shooting but said the investigation would consider whether it was a hate crime, and if more than one person was involved.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 8:37am:

Not another mass shooting - bloody guns - they're a curse as they always end up in the hands of nut cases.

You can't say that, Bobby. Guns don't kill people.

I think you'll find it's the leftards and Mexicans and some, I assume, are good people.

The guns are okay.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 9:02am:

This is a sad event, but unfortunately not uncommon in the US. But instead of waiting for the police statement,  the usual suspects have decided it is some sort of right wing hate crime conspiracy. probably organised by Donald Trump.  ::) While it may well be an anti gay crime, equally it could be a jilted gay lover or just a lunatic with no motive other than his own gratification.

Exactly. Or it could be a BLM or Antifa. If Mr Trump was still prez, none of this would have happened.

Sleepy Joe defended the police, you see. Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.

The only one to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:37am: Not another mass shooting - bloody guns - they're a curse as they always end up in the hands of nut cases. You can't say that, Bobby. Guns don't kill people. I think you'll find it's the leftards and Mexicans and some, I assume, are good people. The guns are okay.

Maybe it was the Proud Boys?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 10:49am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 10:38am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:37am: Not another mass shooting - bloody guns - they're a curse as they always end up in the hands of nut cases. You can't say that, Bobby. Guns don't kill people. I think you'll find it's the leftards and Mexicans and some, I assume, are good people. The guns are okay. Maybe it was the Proud Boys?

Exactly. Someone has to defend the country.

Otherwise, they may not have a country left, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 10:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 10:38am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:37am: Not another mass shooting - bloody guns - they're a curse as they always end up in the hands of nut cases. You can't say that, Bobby. Guns don't kill people. I think you'll find it's the leftards and Mexicans and some, I assume, are good people. The guns are okay. Maybe it was the Proud Boys? Exactly. Someone has to defend the country. Otherwise, they may not have a country left, no?

Trump,

"if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore".

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 7:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 4:53am: Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer? Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee? That's a question.

Could be.

There's a lot of them out there.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 12:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:28am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 4:53am: Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer? Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee? That's a question. Could be. There's a lot of them out there.

That's terrible. I imagine they're a bit cranky about that, Greggery. Democracy can be so unfair, no?

What's the point of having all those guns if you can't get your own way?

Thoughts and prayers.

All done what's next?

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 12:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:28am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 4:53am: Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer? Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee? That's a question. Could be. There's a lot of them out there. That's terrible. I imagine they're a bit cranky about that, Greggery. Democracy can be so unfair, no? What's the point of having all those guns if you can't get your own way?

Maybe they need more guns.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:28am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 4:53am: Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer? Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee? That's a question. Could be. There's a lot of them out there. That's terrible. I imagine they're a bit cranky about that, Greggery. Democracy can be so unfair, no? What's the point of having all those guns if you can't get your own way? Maybe they need more guns.

They're too busy supplying OTHER countries with those atm.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:28am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 4:53am: Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer? Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee? That's a question. Could be. There's a lot of them out there. That's terrible. I imagine they're a bit cranky about that, Greggery. Democracy can be so unfair, no? What's the point of having all those guns if you can't get your own way? Maybe they need more guns.

Yes they come in so handy for light bulb replacement.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:28am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 4:53am: Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer? Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee? That's a question. Could be. There's a lot of them out there. That's terrible. I imagine they're a bit cranky about that, Greggery. Democracy can be so unfair, no? What's the point of having all those guns if you can't get your own way? Maybe they need more guns.

It couldn't hurt, Greggery.

Second amendment, innit. More democratic.

i try never to read these stories because they are "click bait" designed to fuel "outrage"

big tech have discovered that "outrage" is what sells best to customers on the internet.

its what people vibe with

people COULD vibe with awesome stories of success and accomplishment.

but for the person who is beaten down, a loser, a victim, full of self pity, a positive story of success makes them want to throw up.

they like that diet of junk news like they like their junk food.

anything that makes them feel outraged , they vibe with.




the best idea is to stop seeing yourself as a human and see yourself as an entity.
an entity like an awesome party or an awesome garden.

when the internet floats these sort of stories out there , they are really like a weed trying to get into your garden.

you have to have strong boundaries.

you have to have the ability to say "what else" and recognise "opportunity cost"

if you decide to read this garbage , a story from the other side of the world that you would NEVER have known about except the internet recognised it as good click bait, then you upset your mental equilibrium and your brain goes down , deeper into outrage, anger, negative emotions and becoming a loser.


next time you see some clickbait from colorado (a place most people couldnt even locate on a map) go hit the gym or go for a run or walk your dog or listen to some mozart and calm your mind and realise you dont want to waste your life being played by the big tech/ big media BS which wants to infect your mind with weeds for its own financial gain.

ignore that crap

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 1:16pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 12:27pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:28am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 4:53am: Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. Indeed. Hate and violence.  It's what they live for. Who'll be the first right-winger here to defend the murderer? Hard to say, Greggery. Was the killer a failed Trump nominee? That's a question. Could be. There's a lot of them out there. That's terrible. I imagine they're a bit cranky about that, Greggery. Democracy can be so unfair, no? What's the point of having all those guns if you can't get your own way? Maybe they need more guns. It couldn't hurt, Greggery. Second amendment, innit. More democratic.

Violence over votes.  It's the Republican way.

Not that it's really needed because Marla has described the situation thoroughly but can anyone else see the video?

This is what I see.

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aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:11pm:

i try never to read these stories because they are "click bait" designed to fuel "outrage" big tech have discovered that "outrage" is what sells best to customers on the internet. its what people vibe with people COULD vibe with awesome stories of success and accomplishment. but for the person who is beaten down, a loser, a victim, full of self pity, a positive story of success makes them want to throw up. they like that diet of junk news like they like their junk food. anything that makes them feel outraged , they vibe with. the best idea is to stop seeing yourself as a human and see yourself as an entity. an entity like an awesome party or an awesome garden. when the internet floats these sort of stories out there , they are really like a weed trying to get into your garden. you have to have strong boundaries. you have to have the ability to say "what else" and recognise "opportunity cost" if you decide to read this garbage , a story from the other side of the world that you would NEVER have known about except the internet recognised it as good click bait, then you upset your mental equilibrium and your brain goes down , deeper into outrage, anger, negative emotions and becoming a loser. next time you see some clickbait from colorado (a place most people couldnt even locate on a map) go hit the gym or go for a run or walk your dog or listen to some mozart and calm your mind and realise you dont want to waste your life being played by the big tech/ big media BS which wants to infect your mind with weeds for its own financial gain. ignore that crap

Exactly. Why are the leftards sitting around discussing these silly mass shootings all the time? Why can't they think of something awesome to talk about?

Can you suggest a topic, Aquascoot?

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:49pm:

Not that it's really needed because Marla has described the situation thoroughly but can anyone else see the video? This is what I see.

Looks like big tech are redirecting their clickbait elsewhere, Carl. Something inspirational, I hope.

Maybe Ron D's got a new campaign ad. You gotta have a dream, no?

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:49pm:

Not that it's really needed because Marla has described the situation thoroughly but can anyone else see the video? This is what I see.

I suspect the error it is reporting is correct. I get the same. You could probably trick it if you cared enough but I don't.

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:49pm:

Not that it's really needed because Marla has described the situation thoroughly but can anyone else see the video? This is what I see.

Big Tech knows you are gay so they are messing with you, Carl.  Capitalism and heteronormativity. But don't be daunted.

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 5:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:11pm: i try never to read these stories because they are "click bait" designed to fuel "outrage" big tech have discovered that "outrage" is what sells best to customers on the internet. its what people vibe with people COULD vibe with awesome stories of success and accomplishment. but for the person who is beaten down, a loser, a victim, full of self pity, a positive story of success makes them want to throw up. they like that diet of junk news like they like their junk food. anything that makes them feel outraged , they vibe with. the best idea is to stop seeing yourself as a human and see yourself as an entity. an entity like an awesome party or an awesome garden. when the internet floats these sort of stories out there , they are really like a weed trying to get into your garden. you have to have strong boundaries. you have to have the ability to say "what else" and recognise "opportunity cost" if you decide to read this garbage , a story from the other side of the world that you would NEVER have known about except the internet recognised it as good click bait, then you upset your mental equilibrium and your brain goes down , deeper into outrage, anger, negative emotions and becoming a loser. next time you see some clickbait from colorado (a place most people couldnt even locate on a map) go hit the gym or go for a run or walk your dog or listen to some mozart and calm your mind and realise you dont want to waste your life being played by the big tech/ big media BS which wants to infect your mind with weeds for its own financial gain. ignore that crap Exactly. Why are the leftards sitting around discussing these silly mass shootings all the time? Why can't they think of something awesome to talk about? Can you suggest a topic, Aquascoot?

for sure.

people like ron de santis are probably able to provide a list of discussion points.

lowering taxes
the importance of family
reducing government intervention
free markets
free speech
patriotism
personal responsibility


these issues arent as sexy as some obscure rare outlier clickbait like an lgbtq nightclub shooting, but they are orders of magnitude better to focus on if we want to climb the narrow road to success.

focusing on failure has a diagnosis

success barriers
limiting beliefs
self sabotage

you practice these daily no doubt

I would not be surprised in the slightest, if it emerges that the shooter was from the LGBQXYZ community.

But would that knowledge be suppressed, by those who would not want to openly acknowledge it ?

It is 2022.

And this world, especially 1st world societies are lurching from one absurdity induced crisis, to the next, imo.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 6:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 5:09pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:11pm: i try never to read these stories because they are "click bait" designed to fuel "outrage" big tech have discovered that "outrage" is what sells best to customers on the internet. its what people vibe with people COULD vibe with awesome stories of success and accomplishment. but for the person who is beaten down, a loser, a victim, full of self pity, a positive story of success makes them want to throw up. they like that diet of junk news like they like their junk food. anything that makes them feel outraged , they vibe with. the best idea is to stop seeing yourself as a human and see yourself as an entity. an entity like an awesome party or an awesome garden. when the internet floats these sort of stories out there , they are really like a weed trying to get into your garden. you have to have strong boundaries. you have to have the ability to say "what else" and recognise "opportunity cost" if you decide to read this garbage , a story from the other side of the world that you would NEVER have known about except the internet recognised it as good click bait, then you upset your mental equilibrium and your brain goes down , deeper into outrage, anger, negative emotions and becoming a loser. next time you see some clickbait from colorado (a place most people couldnt even locate on a map) go hit the gym or go for a run or walk your dog or listen to some mozart and calm your mind and realise you dont want to waste your life being played by the big tech/ big media BS which wants to infect your mind with weeds for its own financial gain. ignore that crap Exactly. Why are the leftards sitting around discussing these silly mass shootings all the time? Why can't they think of something awesome to talk about? Can you suggest a topic, Aquascoot? for sure. people like ron de santis are probably able to provide a list of discussion points. lowering taxes the importance of family reducing government intervention free markets free speech patriotism personal responsibility these issues arent as sexy as some obscure rare outlier clickbait like an lgbtq nightclub shooting, but they are orders of magnitude better to focus on if we want to climb the narrow road to success. focusing on failure has a diagnosis success barriers limiting beliefs self sabotage you practice these daily no doubt

Your balls on a plate, paki.

Tuck in.

America - a place where every nutcase and halfwit has a gun.

There are more guns than people.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 9:02am:

While it may well be an anti gay crime, equally it could be a jilted gay lover or just a lunatic with no motive other than his own gratification.

I concur.

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 6:23pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 9:02am: While it may well be an anti gay crime, equally it could be a jilted gay lover or just a lunatic with no motive other than his own gratification. I concur.

America - a place where every nutcase and halfwit has a gun.

There are more guns than people.

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 6:18pm:

I would not be surprised in the slightest, if it emerges that the shooter was from the LGBQXYZ community. But would that knowledge be suppressed, by those who would not want to openly acknowledge it ? It is 2022. And this world, especially 1st world societies are lurching from one absurdity induced crisis, to the next, imo.

On the stats, most of them killings are by black on black... this appears to be an aberration.... or is it?

Could be a tranny activist upset over the unwillingness of gays to accept them into the main stream of gayness... the way that lot hate on women, it's likely they will raise the rate of women being attacked etc...

Not their fault, though - I blame those Belgians who adopted them....

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 6:18pm:

I would not be surprised in the slightest, if it emerges that the shooter was from the LGBQXYZ community. But would that knowledge be suppressed, by those who would not want to openly acknowledge it ? It is 2022. And this world, especially 1st world societies are lurching from one absurdity induced crisis, to the next, imo.

Quote:

I would not be surprised in the slightest, if it emerges that the shooter was from the LGBQXYZ community.

Considering that nobody at the club had ever seen him before suggests that he wasn't.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 6:41pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 6:18pm: I would not be surprised in the slightest, if it emerges that the shooter was from the LGBQXYZ community. But would that knowledge be suppressed, by those who would not want to openly acknowledge it ? It is 2022. And this world, especially 1st world societies are lurching from one absurdity induced crisis, to the next, imo. On the stats, most of them killings are by black on black... this appears to be an aberration.... or is it? Could be a tranny activist upset over the unwillingness of gays to accept them into the main stream of gayness... the way that lot hate on women, it's likely they will raise the rate of women being attacked etc... Not their fault, though - I blame those Belgians who adopted them....

Quote:

most of them killings are by black on black.

The qualifier is that it is in black communities. In white communities most killings are white on white.

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 6:18pm:

would not be surprised in the slightest, if it emerges that the shooter was from the LGBQXYZ community.

He's from the Republican community.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots

Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday.

Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly.

Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections.

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Bobby. wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 7:46pm:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg

A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder.

Are you shocked, Booby?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 8:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:46pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder. Are you shocked, Bobby?

He looks like a homo.

Will he get a cell with Bubba?

Homo nightclubs, what will they think of next!

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Bobby. wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:46pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder. Are you shocked, Bobby? He looks like a homo. Will he get a cell with Bubba?

He looks like a MAGA Republican.

Will he get a cell with Failed Forty Five?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 6:19pm:

America - a place where every nutcase and halfwit has a gun. There are more guns than people.

Quote:

America - a place where every nutcase and halfwit has a gun.

No most of them have 10 guns.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:46pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder. Are you shocked, Bobby? He looks like a homo. Will he get a cell with Bubba?

Buba Donald.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 9:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:45pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:46pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder. Are you shocked, Bobby? He looks like a homo. Will he get a cell with Bubba? He looks like a MAGA Republican. Will he get a cell with Failed Forty Five?

Bubba is gunna love him:


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Marla wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:29am:

I went to college in Colorado Springs. Even back then it was a Christofascist shithole and now it's a MAGA weed shithole full of the most crazy right-wing fundies thanks to f-ktards like Focus on the Family and F A T-as-f -k transplant Texxuns and shitbred Californians "Five people are dead and 18 others are injured following a shooting at a nightclub in Colorado Springs late Saturday night. One suspect is in police custody and is being treated for injuries at a local hospital. The shooting at Club Q, an LGBTQ club in northeast Colorado Springs, is under investigation, according to Lt. Pamela Castro, a spokeswoman with the Colorado Springs Police Department. The FBI is assisting in the investigation, the agency's Denver office said on Twitter. Club Q said it was devastated by the attack and called the incident a hate crime in a Facebook post Sunday morning." Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate.

The muslim who did the mass shooting in that gay nightclub in Orlando was a registered democrat.

Far more murders done by registered democrats in gay nightclubs.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 9:51pm:

Marla wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:29am: I went to college in Colorado Springs. Even back then it was a Christofascist shithole and now it's a MAGA weed shithole full of the most crazy right-wing fundies thanks to f-ktards like Focus on the Family and F A T-as-f -k transplant Texxuns and shitbred Californians "Five people are dead and 18 others are injured following a shooting at a nightclub in Colorado Springs late Saturday night. One suspect is in police custody and is being treated for injuries at a local hospital. The shooting at Club Q, an LGBTQ club in northeast Colorado Springs, is under investigation, according to Lt. Pamela Castro, a spokeswoman with the Colorado Springs Police Department. The FBI is assisting in the investigation, the agency's Denver office said on Twitter. Club Q said it was devastated by the attack and called the incident a hate crime in a Facebook post Sunday morning." Of course it was a hate crime. All right-wing Christians know is hate. The muslim who did the mass shooting in that gay nightclub in Orlando was a registered democrat. Far more murders done by registered democrats in gay nightclubs.

You are way too deep down that rabbit hole.

Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots

Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday.

Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly.

Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections.

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• Please read the linked ARTICLE •

• That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier.

• Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US.

• Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was.

Will they hang em and hang em high?


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Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 12:10pm:

• Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was.

In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff.

Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not.

This is a massive failure by the authorities. Had the police done their job properly this cannot happen.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 12:10pm:

• Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US.

I definitely agree.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. edited for grammar In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he was not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the State laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned were meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. This is a massive failure by the authorities. Had the police done their job properly this could never have happened.

The authorities responsible need to go on trial for accessory to mass murder.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 3:00pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree.

big pharma causes 1000's of times as many "needless deaths"


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In 2020, an average of 44 people died each day from overdoses involving prescription opioids, totaling more than 16,000 deaths.1 Prescription opioids were involved in nearly 24% of all opioid overdose deaths in 2020, a 16% increase in prescription opioid-involved deaths from 2019 to 2020.

It's always some psycho that the cops know on a first name basis.


A psycho killer.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. This is a massive failure by the authorities. Had the police done their job properly this cannot happen.

👆 Attention Groggy/Karnal

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 3:00pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree.

What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇?

In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff.

Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. big pharma causes 1000's of times as many "needless deaths" Prescription Opioid Overdose Death Maps Print In 2020, an average of 44 people died each day from overdoses involving prescription opioids, totaling more than 16,000 deaths.1 Prescription opioids were involved in nearly 24% of all opioid overdose deaths in 2020, a 16% increase in prescription opioid-involved deaths from 2019 to 2020.

Suicide doesn't get a look in either.
Nup, get the guns.
We can't have honest people owning guns.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 3:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not.

No, I don't agree with him kidnapping his mother and threatening to blow her up.

And no, I don't agree with him being able to keep his guns and buy new ones.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 4:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. No, I don't agree with him kidnapping his mother and threatening to blow her up. And no, I don't agree with him being able to keep his guns and buy new ones.

I simply asked if you agreed with what the article stated? Why can't you answer THAT question?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 4:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 4:13pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. No, I don't agree with him kidnapping his mother and threatening to blow her up. And no, I don't agree with him being able to keep his guns and buy new ones. I simply asked if you agreed with what the article stated? Why can't you answer THAT question?

It's a stupid question.

Do I agree those things happened - is that what you're asking?

If so, yes.

Do I also agree that he's a violent Republican?  Yes, I do.

Do I agree that violence is the default position for many Republicans?  Yes, I do.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 3:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not.

Ee-gad. A mass-shooter targets a gay nightclub and you think he may have mental health problems?

So unfair. You're not allowed to say mentally ill anymore, dear, that's nasty. You have to say neurologically diverse.

And why shouldn't he be allowed to have guns? That's his right in a free society. Who knows? He may want to fight like hell or take back his country or, do you know?He may not have a country left anymore.

You Australians gave up your rights many years ago, but don't expect us to give up ours - not without a fight, anyway.

The hommers are haram, dear. We culture warriors believe arseholes are for shitting. If I want somebody penetrating my bottom while I have a quiet drink, I'll book an appointment at the Karachi Colonoscopy Centre.

You?

Karnal wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. Ee-gad. A mass-shooter targets a gay nightclub and you think he may have mental health problems? So unfair. You're not allowed to say mentally ill anymore, dear, that's nasty. You have to say neurologically diverse. And why shouldn't he be allowed to have guns? That's his right in a free society. Who knows? He may want to fight like hell or take back his country or, do you know?He may not have a country left anymore. You Australians gave up your rights many years ago, but don't expect us to give up ours - not without a fight, anyway. The hommers are haram, dear. We culture warriors believe arseholes are for shitting. If I want somebody penetrating my bottom while I have a quiet drink, I'll book an appointment at the Karachi Colonoscopy Centre. You?

How many rentboys have you shot up in the gay clubs of Bangkok, ya dirty old sex tourist?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 5:19pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 4:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 4:13pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. No, I don't agree with him kidnapping his mother and threatening to blow her up. And no, I don't agree with him being able to keep his guns and buy new ones. I simply asked if you agreed with what the article stated? Why can't you answer THAT question? It's a stupid question. Do I agree those things happened - is that what you're asking? If so, yes. Do I also agree that he's a violent Republican?  Yes, I do. Do I agree that violence is the default position for many Republicans?  Yes, I do.

Now now, Greggery, violence is subjective, no? One man's insurrection is another man's Capitol walking tour, that sort of thing.

Miss Cheeky's just saying this chap had no control over his actions, that's all. It's not his fault he was programmed to take down the hommers. If they weren't there, he would have done an abortion clinic or a black church or taken a hammer to Nancy Pelosi's 80 year old husband.

This poor fellow can't help it, he was triggered.

That's his right in a free society, no?

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 5:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:38pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. Ee-gad. A mass-shooter targets a gay nightclub and you think he may have mental health problems? So unfair. You're not allowed to say mentally ill anymore, dear, that's nasty. You have to say neurologically diverse. And why shouldn't he be allowed to have guns? That's his right in a free society. Who knows? He may want to fight like hell or take back his country or, do you know?He may not have a country left anymore. You Australians gave up your rights many years ago, but don't expect us to give up ours - not without a fight, anyway. The hommers are haram, dear. We culture warriors believe arseholes are for shitting. If I want somebody penetrating my bottom while I have a quiet drink, I'll book an appointment at the Karachi Colonoscopy Centre. You? How many rentboys have you shot up in the gay clubs of Bangkok, ya dirty old sex tourist?

Sorry, dear?

Karnal wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:43pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:38pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. Ee-gad. A mass-shooter targets a gay nightclub and you think he may have mental health problems? So unfair. You're not allowed to say mentally ill anymore, dear, that's nasty. You have to say neurologically diverse. And why shouldn't he be allowed to have guns? That's his right in a free society. Who knows? He may want to fight like hell or take back his country or, do you know?He may not have a country left anymore. You Australians gave up your rights many years ago, but don't expect us to give up ours - not without a fight, anyway. The hommers are haram, dear. We culture warriors believe arseholes are for shitting. If I want somebody penetrating my bottom while I have a quiet drink, I'll book an appointment at the Karachi Colonoscopy Centre. You? How many rentboys have you shot up in the gay clubs of Bangkok, ya dirty old sex tourist? Sorry, dear?

Oh, you're the receptacle?

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 6:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:52pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:43pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:38pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. Ee-gad. A mass-shooter targets a gay nightclub and you think he may have mental health problems? So unfair. You're not allowed to say mentally ill anymore, dear, that's nasty. You have to say neurologically diverse. And why shouldn't he be allowed to have guns? That's his right in a free society. Who knows? He may want to fight like hell or take back his country or, do you know?He may not have a country left anymore. You Australians gave up your rights many years ago, but don't expect us to give up ours - not without a fight, anyway. The hommers are haram, dear. We culture warriors believe arseholes are for shitting. If I want somebody penetrating my bottom while I have a quiet drink, I'll book an appointment at the Karachi Colonoscopy Centre. You? How many rentboys have you shot up in the gay clubs of Bangkok, ya dirty old sex tourist? Sorry, dear? Oh, you're the receptacle?

No, I'm not sure what you're asking. We need to get to the bottom of this, Gordon, as I'm sure you'll agree. Please explain?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 12:10pm:

• Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was.

So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother?

Did Grandpa intervene?

Karnal wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 6:10pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:52pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:43pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:38pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. Ee-gad. A mass-shooter targets a gay nightclub and you think he may have mental health problems? So unfair. You're not allowed to say mentally ill anymore, dear, that's nasty. You have to say neurologically diverse. And why shouldn't he be allowed to have guns? That's his right in a free society. Who knows? He may want to fight like hell or take back his country or, do you know?He may not have a country left anymore. You Australians gave up your rights many years ago, but don't expect us to give up ours - not without a fight, anyway. The hommers are haram, dear. We culture warriors believe arseholes are for shitting. If I want somebody penetrating my bottom while I have a quiet drink, I'll book an appointment at the Karachi Colonoscopy Centre. You? How many rentboys have you shot up in the gay clubs of Bangkok, ya dirty old sex tourist? Sorry, dear? Oh, you're the receptacle? No, I'm not sure what you're asking. We need to get to the bottom of this, Gordon, as I'm sure you'll agree. Please explain?

Of course you do

Aussie wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene?

Who's his grandpa?

Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots

Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday.

Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly.

Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections.

Ah!

Aussie wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene?

Colorado has red flag laws for guns.

The data i saw shows just over 100 people flagged with this law in Colorado compared to over 9000 people with Floridas red flag law.

Colorado is a strong DemocRat state.

Aussie wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene?

Is grandpa a Republican lawmaker, by any chance?

Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots

Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday.

Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly.

Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections.

Aussie wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene?

What an extraordinary coincidence!   :o

Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots

Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday.

Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly.

Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 8:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 7:36pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene? What an extraordinary coincidence!   :o Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday. Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly. Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections.

Your grandfather was a  Četnik. No surprise there.

Frank wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 8:16pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 7:36pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene? What an extraordinary coincidence!   :o Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday. Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly. Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections. Your grandfather was a  Četnik. No surprise there.

Blue Guard.

Your point?

And the local prostitute in my town was Melania Knauss.

Any other fun facts?

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 7:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 7:15pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 6:10pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:52pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:43pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 5:38pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 3:00pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. I definitely agree. What about the linked article YOU posted up? Do you agree with that? In particular....this 👇? In 2021 he kidnapped his own mother threatening to blow her up with a home made bomb. He was involved in a police standoff. Under 12 months later he is not in prison, was never put on the mandatory Fed flag list which is used in this state. He was able to purchase guns that the states laws were meant to prevent and any guns he previously owned was meant to be confiscated ( temporarily) they were not. Ee-gad. A mass-shooter targets a gay nightclub and you think he may have mental health problems? So unfair. You're not allowed to say mentally ill anymore, dear, that's nasty. You have to say neurologically diverse. And why shouldn't he be allowed to have guns? That's his right in a free society. Who knows? He may want to fight like hell or take back his country or, do you know?He may not have a country left anymore. You Australians gave up your rights many years ago, but don't expect us to give up ours - not without a fight, anyway. The hommers are haram, dear. We culture warriors believe arseholes are for shitting. If I want somebody penetrating my bottom while I have a quiet drink, I'll book an appointment at the Karachi Colonoscopy Centre. You? How many rentboys have you shot up in the gay clubs of Bangkok, ya dirty old sex tourist? Sorry, dear? Oh, you're the receptacle? No, I'm not sure what you're asking. We need to get to the bottom of this, Gordon, as I'm sure you'll agree. Please explain? Of course you do

Oh, I see. Your thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families in their time of need, is it?

Aussie wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene?

FMD Aussie ... did you bother to think before posting that dribble?

1. WHY would his grandpa intervene in such a way as to place his own daughter's life at risk?

2. Do sane people routinely threaten to kill their mother in your part of the world?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 8:22pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 8:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 8:16pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 7:36pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene? What an extraordinary coincidence!   :o Grandfather of 'Colorado gay bar mass-shooter' is MAGA California lawmaker who hailed January 6 riots Authorities have named Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, as the lone suspect in the deadly shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado on Saturday. Aldrich’s grandfather is Randy Voepel, a Republican state lawmaker in the California State Assembly. Voepel compared the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Revolutionary War - Voepel lost his seat to a challenger in the midterm elections. Your grandfather was a  Četnik. No surprise there. Blue Guard. Your point? And the local prostitute in my town was Melania Knauss. Any other fun facts?

Yeah....apparently that local prostitute in your little town who you seem to know so well was previously known as Malcolm.

Just another violent MAGA family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVRP6DVoJ1U

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 8:11pm:

Colorado has red flag laws for guns. The data i saw shows just over 100 people flagged with this law in Colorado compared to over 9000 people with Floridas red flag law. Colorado is a strong DemocRat state.

It also has a higher standard of living when compared to most red states, Baron Von Fartface. It that very reason why many from red states are moving here. Also, just drive in any direction 40 or so miles out of Denver and its MAGA weed territory, you clueless imbecile

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:11pm:

i try never to read these stories because they are "click bait" designed to fuel "outrage" big tech have discovered that "outrage" is what sells best to customers on the internet. its what people vibe with people COULD vibe with awesome stories of success and accomplishment. but for the person who is beaten down, a loser, a victim, full of self pity, a positive story of success makes them want to throw up. they like that diet of junk news like they like their junk food. anything that makes them feel outraged , they vibe with. the best idea is to stop seeing yourself as a human and see yourself as an entity. an entity like an awesome party or an awesome garden. when the internet floats these sort of stories out there , they are really like a weed trying to get into your garden. you have to have strong boundaries. you have to have the ability to say "what else" and recognise "opportunity cost" if you decide to read this garbage , a story from the other side of the world that you would NEVER have known about except the internet recognised it as good click bait, then you upset your mental equilibrium and your brain goes down , deeper into outrage, anger, negative emotions and becoming a loser. next time you see some clickbait from colorado (a place most people couldnt even locate on a map) go hit the gym or go for a run or walk your dog or listen to some mozart and calm your mind and realise you dont want to waste your life being played by the big tech/ big media BS which wants to infect your mind with weeds for its own financial gain. ignore that crap

Horse Boy, you recite the very same soliloquy in every thread about a minority group being harmed. Then it's all about "outrage addiction" and other such ludicracies.

I never see you say the same in any of the ubiquitous threads on here about harm caused by a minority demographic members.

Seems whether or not a side is all low vibrational and self defeatist is all about whether you're on the white, straight, Christian side, hey Horse Boy?

Obviously, one side gets a free pass to whine into the void while the other is a chode if it says anything at all.

Is it the art if the deal?

And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::)

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 4:50pm:

And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::)

Greggy blamed Trump,

Marla blamed Tucker Carlson.

Will they apologise?

why does gweggy lie so much.

he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:13pm:

why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D

We all do, dear, we all do. Just out of interest, how many lies did Mr Trump tell?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:13pm:

why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D

FD answered that here


Quote:

Greg is a habitual liar. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26

Little pecca is going to waste nearly a decade of his life whining about Trump on internet forums if he gets a second term.

Karnal wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:20pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:13pm: why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D We all do, dear, we all do. Just out of interest, how many lies did Mr Trump tell? We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?

;D ;D
Quick paki switcheroo back to Trump and never mind the pages and pages of misplaced, reflex frothing.

They/them the breaks, what? And don't misgender the shooter, hateful Pakistani.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:24pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:13pm: why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D FD answered that here Quote: Greg is a habitual liar. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26

I didn't see FD say alleged, Baron.

You?

Frank wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:20pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:13pm: why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D We all do, dear, we all do. Just out of interest, how many lies did Mr Trump tell? We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we? ;D ;D Quick paki switcheroo back to Trump and never mind the pages and pages of misplaced, reflex frothing. They/them the breaks, what? And don't misgender the shooter, hateful Pakistani.

Most considerate of you, dear boy. You always use the preferred gender pronouns.

How about the cultural ones? I must say, one often finds it so hard to tell.

Do you have any tips?

Frank wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:20pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:13pm: why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D We all do, dear, we all do. Just out of interest, how many lies did Mr Trump tell? We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we? ;D ;D Quick paki switcheroo back to Trump and never mind the pages and pages of misplaced, reflex frothing. They/them the breaks, what? And don't misgender the shooter, hateful Pakistani.

Most considerate of you, dear boy. You always use the preferred gender pronouns.

How about the cultural ones? I must say, one often finds it so hard to tell.

Do you have any tips?

Karnal wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:24pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:13pm: why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D FD answered that here Quote: Greg is a habitual liar. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26 I didn't see FD say alleged, Baron. You?

Greg is a habitual liar.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 4:50pm:

And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::)

Greggy blamed Trump,

Marla blamed Tucker Carlson.

Will they apologise?

Karnal wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 5:20pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:13pm: why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D We all do, dear, we all do. Just out of interest, how many lies did Mr Trump tell? We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?

I think the NY times said trump told 17,000 lies.
it could be the case.
but it doesnt matter coming from trump because he has "established the frame" as a guy who tells 'porkies"

a brilliant strategy by the master because it means that he can get away with it.

its very similar to when russell brand went on an american morning show, picked up "literally lifted off the ground" the pregnant host and then blew a raspberry on her belly button.

the male co host just laughed and said "oh russell, he's such a crazy guy.

if that same flacid male co host tried that on national tv he would be sacked on the spot.

because that pussy of a male co host has established the frame that "i am pious and virtuous"

same with gweggy

gweggy pretends he is pious and virtuous, a mistake not made by trump

hence they are judged by very very different standards .

what we find charismatic in trump or russell brand. we find disgusting in a SJW or a spineless media co host .

how did trump gain this unfair advantage

worth studying

Bobby. wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 6:50pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Greggy blamed Trump, Marla blamed Tucker Carlson. Will they apologise?

I'm sorry Failed Forty Five and Tucker Carlson exist.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 7:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 6:50pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Greggy blamed Trump, Marla blamed Tucker Carlson. Will they apologise? I'm sorry Failed Forty Five and Tucker Carlson exist.

Here's the lie:


greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 8:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:46pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder. Are you shocked, Bobby?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 6:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:20pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 5:13pm: why does gweggy lie so much. he secretly wants to be trump, thats why. ;D ;D ;D We all do, dear, we all do. Just out of interest, how many lies did Mr Trump tell? We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we? I think the NY times said trump told 17,000 lies. it could be the case. but it doesnt matter coming from trump because he has "established the frame" as a guy who tells 'porkies" a brilliant strategy by the master because it means that he can get away with it. its very similar to when russell brand went on an american morning show, picked up "literally lifted off the ground" the pregnant host and then blew a raspberry on her belly button. the male co host just laughed and said "oh russell, he's such a crazy guy. if that same flacid male co host tried that on national tv he would be sacked on the spot. because that pussy of a male co host has established the frame that "i am pious and virtuous" same with gweggy gweggy pretends he is pious and virtuous, a mistake not made by trump hence they are judged by very very different standards . what we find charismatic in trump or russell brand. we find disgusting in a SJW or a spineless media co host . how did trump gain this unfair advantage worth studying

Oh, I see. Mr Trump confessed to telling porkies, did he?

I say, that most certainly is "establishing the frame". Imagine, a US prez promising to tell lies. I imagine he campaigned on government non-integrity, eh? He must have campaigned on non-transparency and dishonesty, yes?

How refreshing. Mr Trump must have loved "Crooked Hillary". He never would have claimed to be the most honest politician "since maybe George Washington". He would never have claimed to run "the most transparent administration ever".That would not be establishing the frame, no?

No, Mr Trump must have done that in some other way. How so?

Do you think he distracted his base by promising to keep out Mexican "rapists, murderers, those who bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people"? Do you think they fell for the old promising to "ban all those from Muslim countries until we can work out what the hell is going on"? Or how about defining those at a neo-Nazi rally as "good and bad on both sides"?

You're right, Aquascoot. That most certainly is worth studying. Imagine falling for 30,573 lies. That must be some frame, no? It sounds to me like a form of mass hypnosis.

You?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 7:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 7:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 6:50pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Greggy blamed Trump, Marla blamed Tucker Carlson. Will they apologise? I'm sorry Failed Forty Five and Tucker Carlson exist. Here's the lie: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:46pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder. Are you shocked, Bobby?

He's a MAGA Republican, he loves guns, hates homosexuals, and gets off on murder.

So where's the lie?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 7:22pm:

He's a MAGA Republican, he loves guns, hates homosexuals, and gets off on murder. So where's the lie?

But he wasn't -
he is a poofter who went there for poofter reasons.

Apologise for publishing fake news.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 7:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 7:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 6:50pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Greggy blamed Trump, Marla blamed Tucker Carlson. Will they apologise? I'm sorry Failed Forty Five and Tucker Carlson exist. Here's the lie: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 8:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2022 at 7:46pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/120/898/280/original/cd50b51a601d57fc.jpg A MAGA Republican who hates homosexuals but loves guns and murder. Are you shocked, Bobby?

Bobby, something tells me you're a big fan of truth. You love honesty. You simply hate lies, you can't stand them.

So I'm curious. What do you call a politician who tell lies to get erected?

We'll do this as a multiple choice, shall we?

A.  "Establishing the frame".

B. A little bit naughty.

C. The most honest politician since maybe George Washington, believe me.

D. A habitual liar.

Karnal wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Bobby, something tells me you're a big fan of truth. You love honesty. You simply hate lies, you can't stand them. So I'm curious. What do you call a politician who tell lies to get erected? We'll do this as a multiple choice, shall we? A.  "Establishing the frame". B. A little bit naughty. C. The most honest politician since maybe George Washington, believe me. D. A habitual liar.

But Trump told the truth - he said

"when you're a star they let you do it -
you can do anything,
grab ...........  "



Trump?
What are they going to say about him?
What? Are they going to say he was a kind man?
He was a wise man? He had plans?
He had wisdom? Bullshit, man!
Am I going to be the one to set him straight?
Look at me - wrong.
YOU.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3QXuh2t5tKsv/

Bobby. wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 7:22pm: He's a MAGA Republican, he loves guns, hates homosexuals, and gets off on murder. So where's the lie? But he wasn't -

He was, and is.

He's a MAGA Republican (brought up in a violent Republican family), he loves guns, hates homosexuals, and gets off on murder.

These are facts.

gweggy , you arent allowed to lie.

you have to develop trumps "powers of persuasion" before you can get away with it.

so you need to stop lying and study this extraordinary man

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 8:19pm:

you have to develop trumps "powers of persuasion" before you can get away with it.

You mean like Trump's 'hyperbolic truth'?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 8:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 8:19pm: you have to develop trumps "powers of persuasion" before you can get away with it. You mean like Trump's 'hyperbolic truth'?

trump doesnt only exagerate,
he floods the field with porkies.
he tells so many that people dont really listen to them as factual statements, tey listen to them as a 'vibe" or an 'energy"

what trump realises and many other stuffy smug intellectuals do not realise is that most people are beaten down and assume authority figures are lying to them

so what you cant fake, you feature.

trump increases his authenticity by telling porkies in an almost comical way

and it makes the smug intellectual types do two things

1.  they react to trump.
and when you are reacttive, you are always in a weaker frame

2. they get angry upset and confused that people dont pick up on it and they come off looking like pedants and people who cant take a joke.

its a brilliant strategy.

its like this charismatic bs artist is at a party and has the audience mesmerised with his witty tall tales and some chode gets up all angry and frustrated and whiney and screechey and tries to silence him.  they come off as losers.  trump comes off as funny.

though i think he is losing his touch as he ages and should hand the batton to Ronny

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 8:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 8:27pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 8:19pm: you have to develop trumps "powers of persuasion" before you can get away with it. You mean like Trump's 'hyperbolic truth'? trump doesnt only exagerate, he floods the field with porkies. he tells so many that people dont really listen to them as factual statements, tey listen to them as a 'vibe" or an 'energy" what trump realises and many other stuffy smug intellectuals do not realise is that most people are beaten down and assume authority figures are lying to them so what you cant fake, you feature. trump increases his authenticity by telling porkies in an almost comical way and it makes the smug intellectual types do two things 1.  they react to trump. and when you are reacttive, you are always in a weaker frame 2. they get angry upset and confused that people dont pick up on it and they come off looking like pedants and people who cant take a joke. its a brilliant strategy. its like this charismatic bs artist is at a party and has the audience mesmerised with his witty tall tales and some chode gets up all angry and frustrated and whiney and screechey and tries to silence him.  they come off as losers.  trump comes off as funny. though i think he is losing his touch as he ages and should hand the batton to Ronny

Quote:

he tells so many that people dont really listen to them as factual statements, tey listen to them as a 'vibe" or an 'energy"

They listened to him well enough and believed him enough to raise an insurrection at the capital.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 7:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 7:36pm: Bobby, something tells me you're a big fan of truth. You love honesty. You simply hate lies, you can't stand them. So I'm curious. What do you call a politician who tell lies to get erected? We'll do this as a multiple choice, shall we? A.  "Establishing the frame". B. A little bit naughty. C. The most honest politician since maybe George Washington, believe me. D. A habitual liar. But Trump told the truth - he said "when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything, grab ...........  " Trump? What are they going to say about him? What? Are they going to say he was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? Bullshit, man! Am I going to be the one to set him straight? Look at me - wrong. YOU. https://www.bitchute.com/video/3QXuh2t5tKsv/

So how you you balance Mr Trump's pussy-grabbing story with the 30,573 lies told as prez? 

Would you like to select an answer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 8:48pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 8:27pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 8:19pm: you have to develop trumps "powers of persuasion" before you can get away with it. You mean like Trump's 'hyperbolic truth'? trump doesnt only exagerate, he floods the field with porkies. he tells so many that people dont really listen to them as factual statements, tey listen to them as a 'vibe" or an 'energy" what trump realises and many other stuffy smug intellectuals do not realise is that most people are beaten down and assume authority figures are lying to them so what you cant fake, you feature. trump increases his authenticity by telling porkies in an almost comical way and it makes the smug intellectual types do two things 1.  they react to trump. and when you are reacttive, you are always in a weaker frame 2. they get angry upset and confused that people dont pick up on it and they come off looking like pedants and people who cant take a joke. its a brilliant strategy. its like this charismatic bs artist is at a party and has the audience mesmerised with his witty tall tales and some chode gets up all angry and frustrated and whiney and screechey and tries to silence him.  they come off as losers.  trump comes off as funny. though i think he is losing his touch as he ages and should hand the batton to Ronny

Ditching "the frame", are you?

Which bit turned you off? Did you get tired of winning?

Bobby's a little hurt.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 10:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 7:36pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 22nd, 2022 at 12:10pm: • Please read the linked ARTICLE • • That 22 yr old was mentally ill. He threatened to kill his own mother months earlier. • Biden is correct IMO...it's guns and mental health that's causing so much needless death in the US. • Groggy Karnal - stop carrying on like a dhead. Your own link tells the truth of how troubled this lone killer was. So...as the link asks...why was this (claimed by you) mentally ill arsehole not red flagged on having weapons after that incident with his mother? Did Grandpa intervene? FMD Aussie ... did you bother to think before posting that dribble? 1. WHY would his grandpa intervene in such a way as to place his own daughter's life at risk? 2. Do sane people routinely threaten to kill their mother in your part of the world?

Up for Aussie  ::)

I see the response from the usual suspects to the revelation of the facts about this killer is denial and derailing the topic.   Only to be expected of course.  ::)

Belgarion wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

I see the response from the usual suspects to the revelation of the facts about this killer is denial and derailing the topic.   Only to be expected of course.  ::)

You saying that he didn't shoot a lot of people after all ?

Belgarion wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

I see the response from the usual suspects to the revelation of the facts about this killer is denial and derailing the topic.   Only to be expected of course.  ::)

The usual suspects in question are also very unusual individuals.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 4:50pm:

And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, ...

He IS a Trump lovin' MAGA redneck.

That fact has been clearly established.

What hope did he have, being brought up by radical Republican Mormons?

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 4:50pm:

And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::)

Bwahahahahaha...

A left wing terrorist...
I knew it.
They're farrking crazy.

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 4:25pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) A left wing terrorist...

No.

He's a Trump-lovin' MAGA redneck.

Brought up by radical Republican Mormons?

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 4:25pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Bwahahahahaha... A left wing terrorist... I knew it. They're farrking crazy.

Cunning, no?

I blame the lawyers. This poor Trump-supporter has to pretend to be a tranny in her attempt to evade the mandatory death sentence for a terrorist hate crime.

We should all feel for the poor dear, Captain. She's going to be fought over for the rest of her life by butch cowboy types. The cats will be scratching her eyes out for being fucked by their boyfriends, and for what?

So the poor dear could take down a gay nightclub in the vain attempt to gain her MAGA family's attention.

So sad. Still, at least she can say she gave the 45th prez a bit of a laugh.

You?

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 4:50pm:

And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::)

Do you think this means anything relevant ?

1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime.

2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves.

3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family.

There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual.

Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody.

I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true.

Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 7:39pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well.

You're saying that Trump turned him gay as well as making him a killer?

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 2:37pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 12:06pm: I see the response from the usual suspects to the revelation of the facts about this killer is denial and derailing the topic.   Only to be expected of course.  ::) You saying that he didn't shoot a lot of people after all ?

What part of the word 'killer' in my post are you having trouble with?  ::)

Belgarion wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 8:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:39pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well. You're saying that Trump turned him gay as well as making him a killer?

Trump certainly made him a killer.

Along with his father and grandfather.

Nobody can make someone gay though.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 8:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:39pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well. You're saying that Trump turned him gay as well as making him a killer?

NO

Cannot see where Trump gets a mention?

Not sure that anyone has claimed that he is gay at all.

Funny thing is that his father was extremely happy to find out that he isn't gay, he didn't seem to mind that much about killing 5 people though. Not sure how his father concluded that he isn't gay either.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:09pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:39pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well. You're saying that Trump turned him gay as well as making him a killer? Cannot see where Trump gets a mention? Not sure that anyone has claimed that he is gay at all. Funny thing is that his father was extremely happy to find out that he isn't gay, he didn't seem to mind that much about killing 5 people though. Not sure how his father concluded that he isn't gay either.

https://youtu.be/iUlX5IFwe9c

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 8:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:15pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:09pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:39pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well. You're saying that Trump turned him gay as well as making him a killer? Cannot see where Trump gets a mention? Not sure that anyone has claimed that he is gay at all. Funny thing is that his father was extremely happy to find out that he isn't gay, he didn't seem to mind that much about killing 5 people though. Not sure how his father concluded that he isn't gay either. https://youtu.be/iUlX5IFwe9c

It was worse than I thought.

Texas Paul gives some faith in the people of Texas. Nice to know they are not all crazy Trump / gun nutz.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 5:39pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 4:25pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) A left wing terrorist... No. He's a Trump-lovin' MAGA redneck. Brought up by radical Republican Mormons?

No deflecting this one moron.
You jumped on the trump band wagon before you had the facts.
Typical of you though. You haven't many facts about much at all.
He's one of your left wing extremist terrorists. It gives me great pleasure to see you fall flat on your face.
Happens regularly. Good entertainment.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 7:39pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well.

And here's the apologist scumbags coming out with all types of conspiracy theories.  ;D ;D ;D
You lefties really have no decency in ya's at all.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 8:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:16pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:15pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:09pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:39pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well. You're saying that Trump turned him gay as well as making him a killer? Cannot see where Trump gets a mention? Not sure that anyone has claimed that he is gay at all. Funny thing is that his father was extremely happy to find out that he isn't gay, he didn't seem to mind that much about killing 5 people though. Not sure how his father concluded that he isn't gay either. https://youtu.be/iUlX5IFwe9c It was worse than I thought. Texas Paul gives some faith in the people of Texas. Nice to know they are not all crazy Trump / gun nutz.

The Republican father is a real POS.

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 8:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 5:39pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 4:25pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) A left wing terrorist... No. He's a Trump-lovin' MAGA redneck. Brought up by radical Republican Mormons? No deflecting this one moron. You jumped on the trump band wagon before you had the facts. Typical of you though. You haven't many facts about much at all. He's one of your left wing extremist terrorists. It gives me great pleasure to see you fall flat on your face. Happens regularly. Good entertainment.

I'll thank you to refer to this Mx by her preferred pronoun, Captain.

One minds one's manners, dear, even when entertaining oneself.

And kindly use the biscuit, thanks.

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 8:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 5:39pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 4:25pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) A left wing terrorist... No. He's a Trump-lovin' MAGA redneck. Brought up by radical Republican Mormons? No deflecting this one moron. You jumped on the trump band wagon before you had the facts.

I have the facts.

He's a Trump-loving Republican.

His father is a MAGA Republican.

And his grandfather was a Republican politician who supported the Jan. 6 Trump terrorist attack on the Capitol.

And they're Mormons.

He's one of yours.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 11:05am:

I have the facts. He's a Trump-loving Republican. His father is a MAGA Republican. And his grandfather was a Republican politician who supported the Jan. 6 Trump terrorist attack on the Capitol. And they're Mormons. He's one of yours.

Repeating the same mantra over and over won't make it true greggy. ::)

Belgarion wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 11:05am: I have the facts. He's a Trump-loving Republican. His father is a MAGA Republican. And his grandfather was a Republican politician who supported the Jan. 6 Trump terrorist attack on the Capitol. And they're Mormons. He's one of yours. Repeating the same mantra over and over won't make it true greggy. ::)

It IS true.

A Republican, from a Republican Mormon family.

You just can't handle the truth.

"The alleged shooter’s mother is the daughter of Republican California assemblyman Randy Voepel, who compared the 6 January attack on the US Capitol to the American revolutionary war."

"Aldrich was also a member of the Church of Latter-Day Saints (LDS), also known as the Mormon church. The church has faced backlash in recent years for its opposition to same-sex marriage, queer relationships and LGBTQ+ identities."

Right-wing, religious nut-job.

MAGA.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 12:24pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 11:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 11:05am: I have the facts. He's a Trump-loving Republican. His father is a MAGA Republican. And his grandfather was a Republican politician who supported the Jan. 6 Trump terrorist attack on the Capitol. And they're Mormons. He's one of yours. Repeating the same mantra over and over won't make it true greggy. ::) It IS true. A Republican, from a Republican Mormon family. You just can't handle the truth. "The alleged shooter’s mother is the daughter of Republican California assemblyman Randy Voepel, who compared the 6 January attack on the US Capitol to the American revolutionary war." "Aldrich was also a member of the Church of Latter-Day Saints (LDS), also known as the Mormon church. The church has faced backlash in recent years for its opposition to same-sex marriage, queer relationships and LGBTQ+ identities." Right-wing, religious nut-job. MAGA.

Why do you think she did it, Greggery?

Culture wars? Taking the fight to the limpwristed leftard LGBTIQ set? Trying to be butch? Trying to express her masculine side, her Alpha brand of white supremacist IdEnTiTy PoLiTiCs?

I'm curious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:55am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 5:39pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 4:25pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) A left wing terrorist... No. He's a Trump-lovin' MAGA redneck. Brought up by radical Republican Mormons? No deflecting this one moron. You jumped on the trump band wagon before you had the facts. I have the facts. He's a Trump-loving Republican. His father is a MAGA Republican. And his grandfather was a Republican politician who supported the Jan. 6 Trump terrorist attack on the Capitol. And they're Mormons. He's one of yours.

Nope!

The shooter is one of yours!

In your delusional mind ... the father and grandfather are to blame for what this non binary individual did.

Is that why you keep mentioning them Groggy?

Belgarion wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 11:05am: I have the facts. He's a Trump-loving Republican. His father is a MAGA Republican. And his grandfather was a Republican politician who supported the Jan. 6 Trump terrorist attack on the Capitol. And they're Mormons. He's one of yours. Repeating the same mantra over and over won't make it true greggy. ::)

Groggy is repeating the same BS under 2 ids too 😐

Is he trying to make a personal statement about mental illness and this topic?

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 8:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 5:39pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 4:25pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) A left wing terrorist... No. He's a Trump-lovin' MAGA redneck. Brought up by radical Republican Mormons? No deflecting this one moron. You jumped on the trump band wagon before you had the facts. Typical of you though. You haven't many facts about much at all. He's one of your left wing extremist terrorists. It gives me great pleasure to see you fall flat on your face. Happens regularly. Good entertainment.

Hang on .... who's the MORON and who's the MORMON??

Dnarever wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 8:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:16pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:15pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:09pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:39pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2022 at 4:50pm: And here we have it folks: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/alleged-colorado-gay-club-shooter-is-nonbinary-uses-theythem-pronouns/news-story/343ecc3b12919e14a411c11e179b17fd  Instead of being a Tump lovin' MAGA redneck, the gay bar shooter is, in fact, a member of the alphabet brigade him/her/itself.   The usual suspects are so quick to apportion blame, and as usual they get it wrong. ::) Do you think this means anything relevant ? 1. Is it really true or just meant to ease the charges ? It puts doubt of the charges related to hate crime. 2. 12 months ago during their hostage event they were using the pronoun he in reference to themselves. 3. They were part of an extreme right abusive religious Mormon family. There is still more to come out on this topic needed to reach a firm position and yes his / their current claimed status may be convenient more than factual. Remember this guys / unidentified' s grandfather is an extreme Trump - election denying once recently elected politician and that he was brought up by his grandparents because his parents were not stable enough and too violent to maintain custody. I do not see that this guys claim to be a Mx has a lot of relevance even if true. Being Mx could be a driver for this type of hate crime, their religious identity and teaching would be in extreme conflict with this identity. they could easily be disgusted by their self and others like them. It does not really mitigate or change anything or any likely external drivers. Their self hate could easily be reinforced by Tucker and co and they are very likely Trump supporters as well. You're saying that Trump turned him gay as well as making him a killer? Cannot see where Trump gets a mention? Not sure that anyone has claimed that he is gay at all. Funny thing is that his father was extremely happy to find out that he isn't gay, he didn't seem to mind that much about killing 5 people though. Not sure how his father concluded that he isn't gay either. https://youtu.be/iUlX5IFwe9c It was worse than I thought. Texas Paul gives some faith in the people of Texas. Nice to know they are not all crazy Trump / gun nutz.

The father hasn't seen his kid since 2011 he was told he died in 2016.
The estrangement has been widely reported was this a result of the kid being a pronoun using poofter?

I know plenty of people who don't vote the same way as their parents/grandparents so you're clutching at straws with that.I don't vote the same way as my parents.
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He uses pronouns which is something democRat voters use.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:24pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 11:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 11:05am: I have the facts. He's a Trump-loving Republican. His father is a MAGA Republican. And his grandfather was a Republican politician who supported the Jan. 6 Trump terrorist attack on the Capitol. And they're Mormons. He's one of yours. Repeating the same mantra over and over won't make it true greggy. ::) It IS true. A Republican, from a Republican Mormon family. You just can't handle the truth. "The alleged shooter’s mother is the daughter of Republican California assemblyman Randy Voepel, who compared the 6 January attack on the US Capitol to the American revolutionary war." "Aldrich was also a member of the Church of Latter-Day Saints (LDS), also known as the Mormon church. The church has faced backlash in recent years for its opposition to same-sex marriage, queer relationships and LGBTQ+ identities." Right-wing, religious nut-job. MAGA. Why do you think she did it, Greggery? I'm curious.

Well, here's the father admitting - in his own words - to being a conservative, Republican Mormon who brought up his kid to hate homosexuals and use violence as a solution to all problems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTCSFmniIeY