If the 4th one didn't wipe you out the 5th one is now available to finish the job :D LOL

Ha! Are you sure about that 5th booster?? Or are you just stirring?

Meantime I have not had any Covid19 jab.

In fact I've not even had the flu since early 2019. It's just the usual infrequent bout of asthma, bronchitis <--- legacy of double pneumonia from my early 20's for working 3 jobs and not taking a break.

I'm not sure I can even include sciatica on that list of ailments as I've NOT had ANY sciatica related pain for months now (thank God).

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

If the 4th one didn't wipe you out the 5th one is now available to finish the job :D LOL

No such thing as a 5th booster here at the moment. It's 5th dose or 3rd booster.

Anyway, if the job of another booster is helping to protect one from a constantly mutating, brain and multiple organ damaging virus then, yes - yes I am ready.

In fact, I have to take my elderly aunt to her GP in North Perth this afternoon and while we're there I'm going to ask about when a 5th dose (3rd booster) is going to become available because at the moment it certainly seems like our governments are looking at "getting infected" being the next "vaccination" for all of us.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 8:56am:

Ha! Are you sure about that 5th booster?? Or are you just stirring? Meantime I have not had any Covid19 jab. In fact I've not even had the flu since early 2019. It's just the usual infrequent bout of asthma, bronchitis <--- legacy of double pneumonia from my early 20's for working 3 jobs and not taking a break. I'm not sure I can even include sciatica on that list of ailments as I've NOT had ANY sciatica related pain for months now (thank God).

No i heard some medical flunky on news radio talking it up with some new variant of course :D LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

If the 4th one didn't wipe you out the 5th one is now available to finish the job

ACTUALLY, I've never HEARD of a "5th booster" ?
I've had a course of 2 AstraZeneca a couple of years back
I had the first Pfizer booster back a year, or so
A second Pfizer booster, months back

If and when my holistic medical team advises a THIRD booster, I'll be at the top of the queue.

I WON'T be taking immunisation tips from conspiracy theorists, who tell me I've been dead for two years from the first AstraZeneca shot.



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Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:05am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:44am: If the 4th one didn't wipe you out the 5th one is now available to finish the job :D LOL No such thing as a 5th booster here at the moment. It's 5th dose or 3rd booster. Anyway, if the job of another booster is helping to protect one from a constantly mutating, brain and multiple organ damaging virus then, yes - yes I am ready. In fact, I have to take my elderly aunt to her GP in North Perth this afternoon and while we're there I'm going to ask about when a 5th dose (3rd booster) is going to become available because at the moment it certainly seems like our governments are looking at "getting infected" being the next "vaccination" for all of us.

The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:25am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:56am: Ha! Are you sure about that 5th booster?? Or are you just stirring? Meantime I have not had any Covid19 jab. In fact I've not even had the flu since early 2019. It's just the usual infrequent bout of asthma, bronchitis <--- legacy of double pneumonia from my early 20's for working 3 jobs and not taking a break. I'm not sure I can even include sciatica on that list of ailments as I've NOT had ANY sciatica related pain for months now (thank God). No i heard some medical flunky on news radio talking it up with some new variant of course :D LOL

Well the new variant is required in order to sell the new jab I suppose.

☹️

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:27am:

The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL

No one (well, except the antivaxxers) has ever said that the current Covid vaccinations will stop you from getting and transmitting the virus.

The vaccinations are to stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator. Or ending up in the morgue.

I don't know why I (and others) need to keep repeating this over and over...?

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:43am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:27am: The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL No one (well, except the antivaxxers) has ever said that the current Covid vaccinations will stop you from getting and transmitting the virus. The vaccinations are to stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator. Or ending up in the morgue. I don't know why I (and others) need to keep repeating this over and over...?

because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go.


Quote:

vaccine /ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/ Learn to pronounce noun a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:48am:

because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go.

Please - just stop it! My sides are aching here.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:43am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:27am: The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL No one (well, except the antivaxxers) has ever said that the current Covid vaccinations will stop you from getting and transmitting the virus. The vaccinations are to stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator. Or ending up in the morgue. I don't know why I (and others) need to keep repeating this over and over...?

Carl -
ATAGI states that the benefits of taking the vaccines outweighs the risks.
In other words if you get ill or die from the vaccines it's tough luck -
you're considered as collateral damage -
in the same way as in a war -
so I suppose it's a war against an invisible enemy?

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:43am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:27am: The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL No one (well, except the antivaxxers) has ever said that the current Covid vaccinations will stop you from getting and transmitting the virus. The vaccinations are to stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator. Or ending up in the morgue. I don't know why I (and others) need to keep repeating this over and over...?

Explain this! And I can produce a whole lot more if you like.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/07/04/deaths-hospital-vaccinated-uk.html

Now ....let's get back to what we have PERSONALLY seen and experienced. On account of this topic I chatted to my husband (who's home today) about his latest Covid19 vaccine workplace requirements. He's just informed me that he's been advised he will need another jab to maintain his vaccine passport.

He's the only one in our family unit who is vaccinated and he's currently FULLY vaccinated too! Only HE has contracted Covid19 and this has happened TWICE! The rest of us who are unvaccinated AND have never contracted this highly contagious virus ... were left caring for the 1 vaccinated family member who was very sick for weeks!

Edit : And bloody hell Redmond is right! Something IS bugging me and that's exactly WHY I'm online today! My husband can't bloody walk on 1 leg and our GP has organised urgent CT scans and ultrasounds and blood tests to see if it's linked to these jabs! There's no reason for why he can't walk properly (no fall/no accident/no scar/no bruise). The GP suspects blood clot/s. And that can lead to sudden and serious stroke/heart attack...even death! And yes I'm worried and upset.

Higher Death, Hospitalization Rates Among Vaccinated Individuals: UK COVID-19 Data

The UK is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world against Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19). Out of the nation’s 68 million people, more than 45 million have received at least a single dose, and over 33 million have been fully vaccinated. However, a new report released by Public Health England (PHE) highlighted the fact that in the past few months, more fully vaccinated people have died from the Delta variant compared to unvaccinated people.

The report, titled “SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England, Technical briefing 16,” examined 60,624 Delta infections between February 1 and June 14, of which 35,521 cases were observed in unvaccinated individuals and 4,087 cases were seen in fully vaccinated individuals who got infected at least 14 days after their second dose.

The death rate for fully vaccinated individuals was 0.636 percent, which was 6.6 times higher than the unvaccinated death rate of 0.0957 percent. 26 deaths were reported among the fully vaccinated individuals, compared to 34 deaths in the unvaccinated. The death rates among fully vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were both below one percent.

Fully vaccinated individuals were also found to be more prone to hospitalization than their unvaccinated counterparts. Out of the 4,087 fully vaccinated people, 2.05 percent (84 people) ended up in a hospital. Among the 35,521 unvaccinated people, only 1.48 percent (527 people) were hospitalized.

Only someone seriously insane would think this data and this topic was funny. It's not! We should ALL be concerned and angry!

Larry’s husband. OK  ;D

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:52am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:48am: because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go. Please - just stop it! My sides are aching here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do you think this topic is funny? It's not pal!

Quote:

The death rate for fully vaccinated individuals was 0.636 percent, which was 6.6 times higher than the unvaccinated death rate of 0.0957 percent. 26 deaths were reported among the fully vaccinated individuals, compared to 34 deaths in the unvaccinated.

What is the biggest class in the UK, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated?

Well, all I can say is:

If you do want to take the Covid vaccines, fine.
If you don't want to take the Covid vaccines, fine.

"You do you" as New York City's MTA said about masks.

"Let's respect each other's choices".

Just need to get that message through to our seemingly rabid antivaxxers who are intent on using misinformation to prevent others from making their own informed choice (and by "informed choice" I mean by getting advice from real doctors and other medical professionals).

Not "advice" from quacks and memes shared on social media.

Sir Loose Nail is hilarious. Larry.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 10:15am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:52am: Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:48am: because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go. Please - just stop it! My sides are aching here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Do you think this topic is funny? It's not pal!

Sorry Lisa but it is.

It really is.

Sir Nail talking about others making things up.

I almost fell off the chair there, lucky I wasn't drinking anything or it would have been sprayed all over my PC monitor.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 10:10am:

Higher Death, Hospitalization Rates Among Vaccinated Individuals: UK COVID-19 Data The UK is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world against Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19). Out of the nation’s 68 million people, more than 45 million have received at least a single dose, and over 33 million have been fully vaccinated. However, a new report released by Public Health England (PHE) highlighted the fact that in the past few months, more fully vaccinated people have died from the Delta variant compared to unvaccinated people. The report, titled “SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England, Technical briefing 16,” examined 60,624 Delta infections between February 1 and June 14, of which 35,521 cases were observed in unvaccinated individuals and 4,087 cases were seen in fully vaccinated individuals who got infected at least 14 days after their second dose. The death rate for fully vaccinated individuals was 0.636 percent, which was 6.6 times higher than the unvaccinated death rate of 0.0957 percent. 26 deaths were reported among the fully vaccinated individuals, compared to 34 deaths in the unvaccinated. The death rates among fully vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were both below one percent. Fully vaccinated individuals were also found to be more prone to hospitalization than their unvaccinated counterparts. Out of the 4,087 fully vaccinated people, 2.05 percent (84 people) ended up in a hospital. Among the 35,521 unvaccinated people, only 1.48 percent (527 people) were hospitalized. Only someone seriously insane would think this data and this topic was funny. It's not! We should ALL be concerned and angry!

Hi Lisa,
I don't know if that is true:
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-britain-idUSL2N2VK15E
VERDICT

Misleading. COVID-19 vaccines do not make people more likely to die from the virus. The manual death rate estimates misrepresent UKHSA data and miss context about the high level of vaccine coverage in England.



Original story here:
https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/07/04/deaths-hospital-vaccinated-uk.html

The story is crap.

The story has this problem in it:

that when much of a population has been vaccinated,

“most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated”

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

The story has this problem in it: that when much of a population has been vaccinated, “most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated”

Well, yes. Of course.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1658995045/372#372

"It's just basic maths".

(Thanks, Greg).  :)

Trouble is there was a growing antivax movement precovid. Measles epidemics came back as did deaths of children “from this harmless childhood disease.”

So covid came and antivaxxers would have swung into action. Fear of the needle then pretend-fear of a RDNA vaxx saw lots of people choose not to be vaccinated. Many of these died of the disease.

I was arguing with a couple antivaxxers for a while—they were vaxxed but they were not letting their kids be vaxxed—they claimed the vaxxed caused autism. Garbage of course—autism is identified at about the time the children are vaxxinated. The parents got vicarious exitement and their little children took the risk. Scum.

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 10:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:43am: The story has this problem in it: that when much of a population has been vaccinated, “most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated” Well, yes. Of course. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1658995045/372#372 "It's just basic maths". (Thanks, Greg).  :)

Such a basic concept that so many people seem unable to grasp.

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:52am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:48am: because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go. Please - just stop it! My sides are aching here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

In case you have trouble reading the dictionary definition of a vaccine. No need for your fact checkers as this didn't come from bitchute.


Quote:

vaccine /ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/ Learn to pronounce noun a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 10:56am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:50am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:43am: The story has this problem in it: that when much of a population has been vaccinated, “most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated” Well, yes. Of course. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1658995045/372#372 "It's just basic maths". (Thanks, Greg).  :) Such a basic concept that so many people seem unable to grasp.

The concept is quite simple and you don't have a vaccine. ;)


Quote:

vaccine /ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/ Learn to pronounce noun a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Dan sums things up nicely.

https://twitter.com/dj1au/status/1589531172010614784


Quote:

It never ceases to amaze me how anti-vaxxers constantly say they refuse to take a vaccine with no long-term studies but are happy to take their chances with a novel virus with unknown long-term effects.

Yes indeed.

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 12:36pm:

Dan sums things up nicely. https://twitter.com/dj1au/status/1589531172010614784 Quote: It never ceases to amaze me how anti-vaxxers constantly say they refuse to take a vaccine with no long-term studies but are happy to take their chances with a novel virus with unknown long-term effects. Yes indeed.

But it is not a vaccine according to the definition of the word.


Quote:

vaccine /ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/ Learn to pronounce noun a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Who cares about definitions?

The important thing is that these vaccines (and, yes - I will still call them that, thank you very much) were developed in a very short period of time and so far have saved millions of lives worldwide.

As for Australia, while 15,792 Covid deaths so far is still a terrible tragedy it would have been a lot worse without the vaccines - some say we could have had up to 50,000 deaths by now.

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

Who cares about definitions? The important thing is that these vaccines (and, yes - I will still call them that, thank you very much) were developed in a very short period of time and so far have saved millions of lives worldwide. As for Australia, while 15,792 Covid deaths so far is still a terrible tragedy it would have been a lot worse without the vaccines - some say we could have had up to 50,000 deaths by now.

If it's not a vaccine then WTF is it ??? "It would have been a lot worse" is not an explanation of anything. All based on conjecture.

Here you go...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine


Quote:

A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious or malignant disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. Vaccines can be prophylactic (to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by a natural or "wild" pathogen), or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, such as cancer). Some vaccines offer full sterilizing immunity, in which infection is prevented completely.

The COVID-19 vaccines are not "sterilizing vaccines" nor have they ever been described or advertised as such.

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 1:17pm:

Here you go... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine Quote: A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious or malignant disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. Vaccines can be prophylactic (to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by a natural or "wild" pathogen), or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, such as cancer). Some vaccines offer full sterilizing immunity, in which infection is prevented completely. The COVID-19 vaccines are not "sterilizing vaccines" nor have they ever been described or advertised as such.

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Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

Who cares about definitions? The important thing is that these vaccines (and, yes - I will still call them that, thank you very much) were developed in a very short period of time and so far have saved millions of lives worldwide. As for Australia, while 15,792 Covid deaths so far is still a terrible tragedy it would have been a lot worse without the vaccines - some say we could have had up to 50,000 deaths by now.

Yes.
Thos e are the facts.

I am  considering having my 4th vaccination
I am 60 years old

Excellent, Sprint.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I have to take my elderly aunt to see her GP in a couple of hours and I'm going to ask about when we can get our 5th since my aunt's 4th was on May 31st and mine was July 14th.

But, from what I've heard that's up to ATAGI but I wish they'd hurry up with the approval.

Some things we know about covid.
People in terrible health don't do well.

My body fat is about 13%
My resting heart rate is 50
I can bench 100% my body weight

Some things we know about the covid vaccine
It does very little to stop you catching or spreading covid
It helps people in terrible health survive covid

I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible.

Me, I'll be fine

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible.

Who said Carl is unhealthy?

Carl didn't. Carl is 65 and weighs about 90kg.

Carl also walks about 2km to the shops and back nearly every day of the week and on the odd occasion when I need to go to Perth City (about 6km from where I live) I usually walk that as well.

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

Some things we know about covid. People in terrible health don't do well. My body fat is about 13% My resting heart rate is 50 I can bench 100% my body weight Some things we know about the covid vaccine It does very little to stop you catching or spreading covid It helps people in terrible health survive covid I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Me, I'll be fine

Your thoughts are as always quite reasoned and expressed without abuse.   :) :)

In the main I quite agree with you.
I have also read quite a few bona fide reports of very healthy people with have long term problems with covid.
Certainly, if you have preexisting bad conditions, chances are you may be adversely affected.

As you indicated, if you are young, healthy, good cardio pulmonary systems, should be ok.

As always, a pleasure to chat with you.

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 2:36pm:

Excellent, Sprint.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I have to take my elderly aunt to see her GP in a couple of hours and I'm going to ask about when we can get our 5th since my aunt's 4th was on May 31st and mine was July 14th. But, from what I've heard that's up to ATAGI but I wish they'd hurry up with the approval.

Thanks.
I have had 3 vaccinations, maybe 4. Lost count.
I have been unwell with every single vaccination.
Am getting more settled on getting a bivalent vaccination.

If I get unwell with vaccinations, I might be a hospital job with covid.

For me, this is serious stuff and I won't listen to fake news.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:07pm: Some things we know about covid. People in terrible health don't do well. My body fat is about 13% My resting heart rate is 50 I can bench 100% my body weight Some things we know about the covid vaccine It does very little to stop you catching or spreading covid It helps people in terrible health survive covid I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Me, I'll be fine Your thoughts are as always quite reasoned and expressed without abuse.   :) :) In the main I quite agree with you. I have also read quite a few bona fide reports of very healthy people with have long term problems with covid. Certainly, if you have preexisting bad conditions, chances are you may be adversely affected. As you indicated, if you are young, healthy, good cardio pulmonary systems, should be ok. As always, a pleasure to chat with you.

To me, “unhealthy people like Carl and Magda” is abuse. The grub knows nothing about Carl!

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

Some things we know about covid. People in terrible health don't do well. My body fat is about 13% My resting heart rate is 50 I can bench 100% my body weight Some things we know about the covid vaccine It does very little to stop you catching or spreading covid It helps people in terrible health survive covid I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Me, I'll be fine

How fit you are is mostly irrelevant -
it's what's going on at the sub microscopic level
with your DNA and immune system that counts.
If you're unlucky you could still die from Covid -
no matter how healthy you are.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:22pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:07pm: Some things we know about covid. People in terrible health don't do well. My body fat is about 13% My resting heart rate is 50 I can bench 100% my body weight Some things we know about the covid vaccine It does very little to stop you catching or spreading covid It helps people in terrible health survive covid I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Me, I'll be fine Your thoughts are as always quite reasoned and expressed without abuse.   :) :) In the main I quite agree with you. I have also read quite a few bona fide reports of very healthy people with have long term problems with covid. Certainly, if you have preexisting bad conditions, chances are you may be adversely affected. As you indicated, if you are young, healthy, good cardio pulmonary systems, should be ok. As always, a pleasure to chat with you. To me, “unhealthy people like Carl and Magda” is abuse. The grub knows nothing about Carl!

Forget to add, apart from 2 or 3 drinks a year, O don't consume alcohol

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211335522000584

I have not had my third dose. Two doses by February last year. Nothing since. As a matter of fact, the media does not even seem to be talking about covid anymore.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:07pm: Some things we know about covid. People in terrible health don't do well. My body fat is about 13% My resting heart rate is 50 I can bench 100% my body weight Some things we know about the covid vaccine It does very little to stop you catching or spreading covid It helps people in terrible health survive covid I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Me, I'll be fine How fit you are is mostly irrelevant - it's what's going on at the sub microscopic level with your DNA and immune system that counts. If you're unlucky you could still die from Covid - no matter how healthy you are.

Nope. It's mostly fatty boombahs who die of Covid.

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 3:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:07pm: I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Who said Carl is unhealthy? Carl didn't. Carl is 65 and weighs about 90kg. Carl also walks about 2km to the shops and back nearly every day of the week and on the odd occasion when I need to go to Perth City (about 6km from where I live) I usually walk that as well.

It won't help Carl. Even the jabbed up super sports people are dropping like flies from blocked up arteries and heart failure. That's just what the sh.t does :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 5:18pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:15pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:07pm: I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Who said Carl is unhealthy? Carl didn't. Carl is 65 and weighs about 90kg. Carl also walks about 2km to the shops and back nearly every day of the week and on the odd occasion when I need to go to Perth City (about 6km from where I live) I usually walk that as well. It won't help Carl. Even the jabbed up super sports people are dropping like flies from blocked up arteries and heart failure. That's just what the sh.t does :(

hear hear sir Nail,
try telling ultra fit Gordon that.   :-[

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 5:18pm: Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:15pm: [quote author=Gordon link=1667861052/35#35 date=1667884077] I thoroughly recommend unhealthy people like Carl and Magda get as many boosters as possible. Who said Carl is unhealthy? Carl didn't. Carl is 65 and weighs about 90kg. Carl also walks about 2km to the shops and back nearly every day of the week and on the odd occasion when I need to go to Perth City (about 6km from where I live) I usually walk that as well. It won't help Carl. Even the jabbed up super sports people are dropping like flies from blocked up arteries and heart failure. That's just what the sh.t does :(

hear hear sir Nail,
try telling ultra fit Gordon that.   :-[/quote]

My 5 year old had covid last week, he was positive for just one day then tested neg the next. I felt the slightest tiny little bit sick for half a day, tested neg. I Reckon my immune system kicked it's arse.

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

My 5 year old had covid last week, he was positive for just one day then tested neg the next. I felt the slightest tiny little bit sick for half a day, tested neg. I Reckon my immune system kicked it's arse.

It's your good genetics.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 5:43pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 5:38pm: My 5 year old had covid last week, he was positive for just one day then tested neg the next. I felt the slightest tiny little bit sick for half a day, tested neg. I Reckon my immune system kicked it's arse. It's your good genetics.

No, I look after myself.

How would Magda go with covid?

https://i.ibb.co/dcVBGGB/Magda-Szubanski-spotted-out-and-about-in-Melbourne-ahead-of.jpg

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 5:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 5:43pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 5:38pm: My 5 year old had covid last week, he was positive for just one day then tested neg the next. I felt the slightest tiny little bit sick for half a day, tested neg. I Reckon my immune system kicked it's arse. It's your good genetics. No, I look after myself. How would Magda go with covid? https://i.ibb.co/dcVBGGB/Magda-Szubanski-spotted-out-and-about-in-Melbourne-ahead-of.jpg

Not too well.    :-[

"These vaccines are safe and they work" :D LOL

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/119/851/673/playable/b5db025354c777c9.mp4

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

"These vaccines are safe and they work" :D LOL https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/119/851/673/playable/b5db025354c777c9.mp4

And now he wants you to vote for him in 2 weeks time - go figure?

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:48am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:43am: Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:27am: The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL No one (well, except the antivaxxers) has ever said that the current Covid vaccinations will stop you from getting and transmitting the virus. The vaccinations are to stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator. Or ending up in the morgue. I don't know why I (and others) need to keep repeating this over and over...? because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go.

I've never heard of ANY vaccine guaranteeing 100% protection against ANY virus or bacterial infection

Not measles, not chicken pox, not whooping cough, not seasonal influenza, not COVID19 - despite what ANY dictionary definition of the word "immunisation" will tell you

So just WHERE and which was the pharmaceutical company offered 100% protection against becoming COVID19 positive, well, a lot of us here would be grateful if you could supply the URL (link) where ANY "pharma" made such a claim.

I put this challenge to ANY conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer - not just the OBVIOUS pathological liars 


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Bobby. wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 6:06pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 6:04pm: "These vaccines are safe and they work" :D LOL https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/119/851/673/playable/b5db025354c777c9.mp4 And now he wants you to vote for him in 2 weeks time - go figure ?

DESPITE what a few Victorian rightists and members of the "Friends of Matthew Guy" support group might try and tell you - Daniel Andrews has the overwhelming support (60% plus) of everyday Victorians over his handling and management of the pandemic

He has the second highest approval rating of Australian state premiers - only beaten by WA Premier, Mark McGowan.


NOW the Liberal Party and supporters are trying the same "Get Dan" campaign that failed them miserably in the last Federal Election

Go figure ?




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buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 9^th, 2022 at 6:35am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:48am: Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:43am: Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:27am: The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL No one (well, except the antivaxxers) has ever said that the current Covid vaccinations will stop you from getting and transmitting the virus. The vaccinations are to stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator. Or ending up in the morgue. I don't know why I (and others) need to keep repeating this over and over...? because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go. I've never heard of ANY vaccine guaranteeing 100% protection against ANY virus or bacterial infection Not measles, not chicken pox, not whooping cough, not seasonal influenza, not COVID19 - despite what ANY dictionary definition of the word "immunisation" will tell you So just WHERE and which was the pharmaceutical company offered 100% protection against becoming COVID19 positive, well, a lot of us here would be grateful if you could supply the URL (link) where ANY "pharma" made such a claim. I put this challenge to ANY conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer - not just the OBVIOUS pathological liars  .

But these convid shots don't protect you at all !!

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 10:10am:

Higher Death, Hospitalization Rates Among Vaccinated Individuals: UK COVID-19 Data

No source to any of this, Blondie - or are you just too smacking embarrassed to post it ?

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 9^th, 2022 at 8:20am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 9th, 2022 at 6:35am: Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:48am: Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:43am: Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:27am: The dude who was talking it up reckons he still got convid after 4 shots so he needs another shot for additional protection :D LOL No one (well, except the antivaxxers) has ever said that the current Covid vaccinations will stop you from getting and transmitting the virus. The vaccinations are to stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator. Or ending up in the morgue. I don't know why I (and others) need to keep repeating this over and over...? because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go. I've never heard of ANY vaccine guaranteeing 100% protection against ANY virus or bacterial infection Not measles, not chicken pox, not whooping cough, not seasonal influenza, not COVID19 - despite what ANY dictionary definition of the word "immunisation" will tell you So just WHERE and which was the pharmaceutical company offered 100% protection against becoming COVID19 positive, well, a lot of us here would be grateful if you could supply the URL (link) where ANY "pharma" made such a claim. I put this challenge to ANY conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer - not just the OBVIOUS pathological liars  . But these convid shots don't protect you at all !!

Somehow, to me at least, that doesn't look at ALL like a URL



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This is how it works ;)

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Wonder if Sir Nail and Reggie are still using hand sanitizer to protect themselves from Covid?

EXCLUSIVE: Are hand sanitizers a cancer risk?


Quote:

Nearly two dozen hand sanitizer brands have been recalled or banned in the US after they were found to contain a cancer-causing chemical. Thousands of bottles made in China, South Korea and in America were pulled from shelves between April 2021 and September this year. The gels and sprays — which became a mainstay during the Covid outbreak — were found to contain dangerous levels of benzene, a carcinogen at the very top of the Government's most dangerous solvent list.

Quote:

When rubbed onto the hands, even in relatively small doses, benzene can seep through the skin and into the blood stream where it can stop cells working correctly. It is known to cause leukemia and other blood disorders.

There you go, guys... forget about the vaccines for a while and get your teeth stuck into that.

(You're welcome)

Carl D wrote on Nov 9^th, 2022 at 3:50pm:

Wonder if Sir Nail and Reggie are still using hand sanitizer to protect themselves from Covid? EXCLUSIVE: Are hand sanitizers a cancer risk? Quote: Nearly two dozen hand sanitizer brands have been recalled or banned in the US after they were found to contain a cancer-causing chemical. Thousands of bottles made in China, South Korea and in America were pulled from shelves between April 2021 and September this year. The gels and sprays — which became a mainstay during the Covid outbreak — were found to contain dangerous levels of benzene, a carcinogen at the very top of the Government's most dangerous solvent list. [quote]When rubbed onto the hands, even in relatively small doses, benzene can seep through the skin and into the blood stream where it can stop cells working correctly. It is known to cause leukemia and other blood disorders.

There you go, guys... forget about the vaccines for a while and get your teeth stuck into that.

(You're welcome)[/quote]

Soap works a lot better and is much safer but I will tell you what is a bigger cancer risk and that is the vax. :(

Get ready for your 5th jab guys. The four before it never worked so you may as well have another one that will be guaranteed to total your immune system once and for all :(

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Did you add the big red pile of BS at the bottom of the Herald Sun story, Sir Nail?

And, yes - I'm still ready for my 5th Covid vaccination whenever it becomes available.

Thanks for asking again.  :)

Carl D wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 8:04pm:

Did you add the big red pile of BS at the bottom of the Herald Sun story, Sir Nail? And, yes - I'm still ready for my 5th Covid vaccination whenever it becomes available. Thanks for asking again.  :)

even though the four before it didn't work :D LOL

What did Einstein say about insanity ?

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/16/38/92/1638920fafeffdc58c4e7b9f1036cbe4--today-quotes-albert-einstein-quotes.jpg

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8^th, 2022 at 10:10am:

Higher Death, Hospitalization Rates Among Vaccinated Individuals: UK COVID-19 Data...

Missing context. Public Health England fatality statistics do not suggest that
fully vaccinated individuals are 745% more likely to die from COVID-19 than
those who are unvaccinated.

The figures were taken out of context from a PHE briefing.

Fact Check-Data shows COVID-19 vaccines have saved thousands of lives;
contrary claims have taken a PHE report out of context by Reuters Fact Check.

Yes, I am seriously considering my 5th vaccination

Carl D wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 8:04pm:

Did you add the big red pile of BS at the bottom of the Herald Sun story, Sir Nail? And, yes - I'm still ready for my 5th Covid vaccination whenever it becomes available. Thanks for asking again.  :)

Thanks Carl.
I have been unwell from everyone of my past 4 vaccinations so am not looking forward to this.
I was considering it 2 weeks ago.
Yes, I will do it.

LOL... I think Sir Lastnail's COVID paranoia has finally caught up
with him.    SEVENTEEN posts in this one thread, and every one
of them an ill-conceived, misinformed, unevidenced, even comical
claim about COVID and its vaccines.

It's also obvious he avoids addressing any/all of the scientific evidence
supporting people's positive claims about vaccination as a priority.  And,
like Wombatwoody, Reggie, Baronvonrort and a few others here, he
seems to soak up every conspiracy theory doing the rounds of the quack
sites like a sponge.

And here's yet another story of a prominent US anti-vaxxer's death:

A right-wing TV and radio host who was a vociferous critic of
Anthony Fauci and who urged his listeners not to get vaccinated
against Covid-19 has died after contracting the virus.  Dick Farrel,
who had described Fauci as a “power-tripping, lying freak” who
conspired with “power trip lib loons”, had urged people not to get
vaccinated as recently as June last year.

Described as an ardent supporter of Donald Trump, Farrel went
all-in on unsubstantiated 2020 election fraud conspiracy theories
about election fraud and questioned the efficacy of coronavirus
vaccines.

Personally, I reckon the virus was hibernating in his silly moustache...
https://i.postimg.cc/fT768SSv/Screenshot-2022-11-10-at-21-30-30-Dick-Farrel-jpg-JPEG-Image-900-542-pixels.png

RIP indeed.    ;D

Touche numpty. Just keep banging that monkey snot into you. ;)

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 8:04pm: Did you add the big red pile of BS at the bottom of the Herald Sun story, Sir Nail? And, yes - I'm still ready for my 5th Covid vaccination whenever it becomes available. Thanks for asking again.  :) Thanks Carl. I have been unwell from everyone of my past 4 vaccinations so am not looking forward to this. I was considering it 2 weeks ago. Yes, I will do it.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/16/38/92/1638920fafeffdc58c4e7b9f1036cbe4--today-quotes-albert-einstein-quotes.jpg

Some good news.


Quote:

Health department says fifth COVID vaccine doses are not currently being recommended for most people amid rising cases The Department of Health says fifth doses of a COVID-19 vaccine are not currently being recommended for most people. Department officials told a Senate committee the vaccine advisory body ATAGI has not yet provided advice on whether or not most people should get a fifth dose of a COVID vaccine. Health authorities have warned a new wave of COVID is beginning to make its way through the community and currently, only adults with a severely compromised immune system are eligible for a fifth dose. Head of the department's COVID-19 Primary Care Response team, Lucas De Toca, said the department has not yet received advice from ATAGI on whether fifth doses will be necessary for all. "I cannot pre-empt when ATAGI will provide the advice," Dr De Toca. "At the moment ATAGI's firm statement remains that people should remain up to date with their vaccination. "And based on the advice we have an older person who has stayed up to date and has had the fourth dose still has great protection against severe disease. "ATAGI is continuously reviewing the evidence … and so as part of their regular meetings continue to review the booster advice."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/covid-department-fifth-vaccine-dose-not-recommended-for-most/101640930

But the vaccine junkies here should still have it ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:51pm:

Some good news. Quote: Health department says fifth COVID vaccine doses are not currently being recommended for most people amid rising cases The Department of Health says fifth doses of a COVID-19 vaccine are not currently being recommended for most people. Department officials told a Senate committee the vaccine advisory body ATAGI has not yet provided advice on whether or not most people should get a fifth dose of a COVID vaccine. Health authorities have warned a new wave of COVID is beginning to make its way through the community and currently, only adults with a severely compromised immune system are eligible for a fifth dose. Head of the department's COVID-19 Primary Care Response team, Lucas De Toca, said the department has not yet received advice from ATAGI on whether fifth doses will be necessary for all. "I cannot pre-empt when ATAGI will provide the advice," Dr De Toca. "At the moment ATAGI's firm statement remains that people should remain up to date with their vaccination. "And based on the advice we have an older person who has stayed up to date and has had the fourth dose still has great protection against severe disease. "ATAGI is continuously reviewing the evidence … and so as part of their regular meetings continue to review the booster advice." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/covid-department-fifth-vaccine-dose-not-recommended-for-most/101640930 But the vaccine junkies here should still have it ;)

Does this mean we are now vaxxed to the max, they went all out pushing jabs 1, 2, 3 and 4 with mandates the jab or your job etc, but come jab 5 ahh yeah nah no more,, but don't they wear off! what about this new killer strain doing the rounds now, won't everyone die!

just a waste of cash.
5 jabs at 120 bucks each to prevent the sniffles for anyone under 60 who is healthy.

they would be better off paying farmers to provide free brocholli and avacado and do something about the diabetic crisis , then paying pfizer to give vaccines which give a tiny boost to antibodies for about 5 weeks

no bang for your buck.

move on

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2022 at 5:39am:

just a waste of cash. 5 jabs at 120 bucks each to prevent the sniffles for anyone under 60 who is healthy. they would be better off paying farmers to provide free brocholli and avacado and do something about the diabetic crisis , then paying pfizer to give vaccines which give a tiny boost to antibodies for about 5 weeks no bang for your buck. move on

I wish I could but when you keep posting hilarious nonsense like that I have to stay just for the laughs.  ;D

Johnnie wrote on Nov 11^th, 2022 at 1:49am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 9:51pm: Some good news. Quote: Health department says fifth COVID vaccine doses are not currently being recommended for most people amid rising cases The Department of Health says fifth doses of a COVID-19 vaccine are not currently being recommended for most people. Department officials told a Senate committee the vaccine advisory body ATAGI has not yet provided advice on whether or not most people should get a fifth dose of a COVID vaccine. Health authorities have warned a new wave of COVID is beginning to make its way through the community and currently, only adults with a severely compromised immune system are eligible for a fifth dose. Head of the department's COVID-19 Primary Care Response team, Lucas De Toca, said the department has not yet received advice from ATAGI on whether fifth doses will be necessary for all. "I cannot pre-empt when ATAGI will provide the advice," Dr De Toca. "At the moment ATAGI's firm statement remains that people should remain up to date with their vaccination. "And based on the advice we have an older person who has stayed up to date and has had the fourth dose still has great protection against severe disease. "ATAGI is continuously reviewing the evidence … and so as part of their regular meetings continue to review the booster advice." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/covid-department-fifth-vaccine-dose-not-recommended-for-most/101640930 But the vaccine junkies here should still have it ;) Does this mean we are now vaxxed to the max, they went all out pushing jabs 1, 2, 3 and 4 with mandates the jab or your job etc, but come jab 5 ahh yeah nah no more,, but don't they wear off! what about this new killer strain doing the rounds now, won't everyone die!

they are back peddling a 100 miles an hour because they know their jabs are maiming and killing people. Better to say nothing than admit liability ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2022 at 1:00pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 11th, 2022 at 1:49am: Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 9:51pm: Some good news. Quote: Health department says fifth COVID vaccine doses are not currently being recommended for most people amid rising cases The Department of Health says fifth doses of a COVID-19 vaccine are not currently being recommended for most people. Department officials told a Senate committee the vaccine advisory body ATAGI has not yet provided advice on whether or not most people should get a fifth dose of a COVID vaccine. Health authorities have warned a new wave of COVID is beginning to make its way through the community and currently, only adults with a severely compromised immune system are eligible for a fifth dose. Head of the department's COVID-19 Primary Care Response team, Lucas De Toca, said the department has not yet received advice from ATAGI on whether fifth doses will be necessary for all. "I cannot pre-empt when ATAGI will provide the advice," Dr De Toca. "At the moment ATAGI's firm statement remains that people should remain up to date with their vaccination. "And based on the advice we have an older person who has stayed up to date and has had the fourth dose still has great protection against severe disease. "ATAGI is continuously reviewing the evidence … and so as part of their regular meetings continue to review the booster advice." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/covid-department-fifth-vaccine-dose-not-recommended-for-most/101640930 But the vaccine junkies here should still have it ;) Does this mean we are now vaxxed to the max, they went all out pushing jabs 1, 2, 3 and 4 with mandates the jab or your job etc, but come jab 5 ahh yeah nah no more,, but don't they wear off! what about this new killer strain doing the rounds now, won't everyone die! they are back peddling a 100 miles an hour because they know their jabs are maiming and killing people. Better to say nothing than admit liability ;)

So the big flu marches on and mutates as the monkey pus derived inoculation wears off, how will their natural immune system cope from here on without boosters!