Five million of us will celebrate(?) Halloween this year in Australia,
according to the ABC News yesterday.

In its first survey of Halloween intentions, the Australian Retailers
Association found that the average amount spent on Halloween is
$86 per person, equating to a $430 million boost for retailers.

Those in the 35- to 49-year-old age group are the most likely to
celebrate Halloween, with one in five to hold or attend a party
without children.

While Halloween has slowly taken hold in Australia over the past
few decades to be a retail event, the holiday in the US is a major deal.
Americans' expected to spend $US100 per person for a massive
total of AU$16.5 billion on Halloween this year.

One Melbourne resident said while he's not against people having
fun, he will not be celebrating Halloween. He said the October date
represented "Americanisation at its worst".  [I agree]

"Halloween in Australia, and more precisely the way in which it has
bewilderingly entered our cultural landscape like a cheap show bag,
really kind of angers me," he said. "It was just dumped here as a
commercial exercise".

My local Woolies was selling orange "Halloween" pumpkins for $6 per kg. 
I weighed one last Tuesday, and it would've taken $30 of my hard-earned.
This morning Woolies were selling the same pumpkins for $4.50
for the whole thing FFS!

Is this price gouging on a major scale?   Should the ACCC investigate?

https://i.postimg.cc/XNksYx4r/Screenshot-2022-10-31-at-09-41-07-Anti-Halloween-Sucks-Hate-Halloween-Angry-Pumpkin-by-150designz.png

At any rate, as an atheist I've never "celebrated" Halloween, one reason
being its religious origins.  The English word 'Halloween' comes from
"All Hallows' Eve", being the evening before the Christian holy days of
All Hallows' Day (All Saints' Day) on 1 November and All Souls' Day
on 2 November.

The bastardised version of the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain has arrived in Australia via US TV and movies and is exploited by businesses to make a profit.  That the concept of allowing children to enter strangers premises and demand lollies with menaces is something to be embraced shows the intelligence level of some people.

Who cares where it came from, it's really fun for kids. Don't be such a misery guts.

I'll be taking my 5yo this arvo.

Trick or treat
Smell my feet
Give me something good to eat

Belgarion wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:03am:

The bastardised version of the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain has arrived in Australia via US TV and movies and is exploited by businesses to make a profit.  That the concept of allowing children to enter strangers premises and demand lollies with menaces is something to be embraced shows the intelligence level of some people.

Truth! ✅

Gordon wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:11am:

Who cares where it came from, it's really fun for kids. Don't be such a misery guts. I'll be taking my 5yo this arvo. Trick or treat Smell my feet Give me something good to eat

In our little town, we have a register of people's names and their
addresses where the kids can safely knock in order to get their
sugar kicks.   It also stops hoards of kids banging on my front door
for half the night.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:41am:

Gordon wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:11am: Who cares where it came from, it's really fun for kids. Don't be such a misery guts. I'll be taking my 5yo this arvo. Trick or treat Smell my feet Give me something good to eat In our little town, we have a register of people's names and their addresses where the kids can safely knock in order to get their sugar kicks.   It also stops hoards of kids banging on my front door for half the night.

You're lying.  Kids don't randomly knock on doors, they go to houses with decorations which signifies they are participating.

If you dont like Halloween then just dont do it.

And while you're at it, examine the origins of everything you like, dont just cherry pick the ones you don't.

A few years ago a few streets away from me, 4 houses put on a street party with a sausage sizzle, fairy floss machine and even beers and wine for the parents. Imagine how horrible it is for all these  neighbours and their kids to fun and getting to know each other.

BAN IT

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:41am:

Gordon wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:11am: Who cares where it came from, it's really fun for kids. Don't be such a misery guts. I'll be taking my 5yo this arvo. Trick or treat Smell my feet Give me something good to eat In our little town, we have a register of people's names and their addresses where the kids can safely knock in order to get their sugar kicks.  It also stops hoards of kids banging on my front door for half the night.

Come on! If your house isn't decorated the kids bypass it.

Unless of course it's my place! I seriously can't stand this dark pagan celebration and I have nothing on my property remotely suggesting that I'm into Halloween.

Unfortunately the kids and their parents know that I give treats to everyone ALL the freaking time!

Anyway .... later on this afternoon I'll do what I always do...chop up lots of fresh carrot sticks for the kids to grab and chomp on.

Why?

They're orange and sweet (fits the Halloween theme).

They're refreshing and healthy. And parents VERY MUCH appreciate seeing their kids eat veges instead of chocolates and lollies.

Gordon wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:45am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:41am: In our little town, we have a register of people's names and their addresses where the kids can safely knock in order to get their sugar kicks.   It also stops hoards of kids banging on my front door for half the night. You're lying.

You do realise that this is an offensive claim don't you?  It simply points up
how devoid of legitimate comment you are.  Ad hominems only make the user
look even more stupid than their words would indicate. 


Gordon wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:45am:

If you don't like Halloween then just don't do it.

Are you truly this dense?  Any normal person would've realised by now I don't
like Halloween, and I don't "do it".    You really need to catch up mate.  (Hint:
read the thread title.)


Gordon wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:45am:

And while you're at it, examine the origins of everything you like, don't just cherry pick the ones you don't.

Uh..... what?  This means... uh... I give up LOL.

No you're lying because you've said something that sounds like a big fat lie.

Kids ONLY knock on doors decorated for Halloween because that's a way to know which house is participating. It's that simple

They're not knocking on your door half the night, you made that up.

Probs one stupid kid knocked on your door once and you're still angry you had to get out of your recliner chair.

And......from personal experiences from my older one now 15, from about 12 and up kids are too cool to go trick or treating, so it really mostly little kids doing it and mostly between the ages of 5 to 10.

5 to 10 year old usually don't roam the street for half the night.

Stop lying!

I don't mind it. The kids enjoy it. The parents like seeing 'something' that the kids get to enjoy 'socially' without TV or Net.

I see where Geoff is coming from. Jealous Australians who hate something from someone else, because they couldn't think up an Australian version first, etc.

But I do dislike the Media/Retail exploitation of the original thing historically. Just like Christmas.

South-Western Sydney: a group of kids go Halloweening and I guess, they just kinda went to any old house. Daylight hours of course. Suddenly I hear the kids screaming in terror and running back the way they came. Screaming in a way that makes the mind fight that gnawing feeling that something isn't right, but it is Halloween and they should be screaming, etc - all part of the vibe. Sure enough - within just 10 minutes! Cop cars, Police chopper, etc all turned up on the house 2-doors down. Silly Pineapple Polynesian 20'something was drunk with a fake sawn-off shotgun and scared the kids with it when they knocked on his door. Oh well - Trick or Treat?? :-/

Insidious? Here we go again. There is a section of the Australian population that fixates on Anti-Americanism. Halloween is not American and until recent years, it was not "celebrated" in the US, except in the old New England states like Mass, Conn, NH, Maine and Vermont. It was particularly frowned upon by the Southern Baptists and other Christian US sects.

Holloween, as we are now seeing it in Australia is nothing more than a marketing ploy by Australian importers of garish orange and black plastic geegaws produced in China. Americans don't give a rats ass whether Australians buy into it or not. What is insidious is Anti-Americanism in Australia.

I think Issue. Like many people do. They get the blurred line between the Religious/Military/Political America and the Mafia-Media of Entertainment/Sport/Music/Medicine, etc.

They are basically Anti-American, in that they are Anti-MEDIA-American. Take the Fake Political Democrats for instance - nothing more than a Media infiltrator of true Political American culture. It the Media and its Retail that has turned things like Halloween and Christmas into something pretty ugly in the eyes of many.
It's this same Media that Australian Celebrities run to for their Republic and being Anti-British Royalty (but not 'political'? :-?)
It's a very stupid world we tune into sometimes.

...but hey


The Media of Oceania leaves North Americans in the Dark (continent), oppresses South Americans and is rejected by Sahulians (us Australians).

Just like Monotheism of the Middle-East left Africa in the Dark (continent), oppressed Europe and was rejected by Asia.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 8:42am:

One Melbourne resident said while he's not against people having fun, he will not be celebrating Halloween. He said the October date represented "Americanisation at its worst".  [I agree]

I agree too - it's ridiculous

But if that's what floats your boat, good luck to you.

While we're bashing Americans (yes, I know they didn't invent Halloween), I'm starting to hear more and more Australians use the word 'diaper' now.

FFS   ::)

In context it's okay - Trump is American, so it makes sense to call him 'Diaper Don' - but Australians in their local Woolworths store asking where the diapers are is just ridiculous.

;)

But yeah, if kids are having fun - good luck to them.  Just don't let them knock on any Liberal Party members' doors.

Initially…. yonks ago I was annoyed at copying this American thing…
Then I got used to seeing carved out scary looking pumpkins, and white web like cobweb all over everyone’s front fence, with spiders everywhere!
Now I laugh and think it’s colourful and fun.
I actually bought a scary castle backdrop with flying bats as a photo op for kids dressed up hallowe’en.
And I’m dressed as the scary ole witch of eastVic  ;D
It’s so cute when mum’s I know bring kids around dressed up … the kids are so excited …
I see no harm as long as kids are safe.
Let’s kids be kids and have dress up fun. They grow up too fast with stresses waiting in the big grown up world…

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 2:38pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 8:42am: One Melbourne resident said while he's not against people having fun, he will not be celebrating Halloween. He said the October date represented "Americanisation at its worst".  [I agree] I agree too - it's ridiculous But if that's what floats your boat, good luck to you. While we're bashing Americans (yes, I know they didn't invent Halloween), I'm starting to hear more and more Australians use the word 'diaper' now. FFS   ::) In context it's okay - Trump is American, so it makes sense to call him 'Diaper Don' - but Australians in their local Woolworths store asking where the diapers are is just ridiculous. ;) But yeah, if kids are having fun - good luck to them.  Just don't let them knock on any Liberal Party members' doors.

And in the US, hopefully no kids are knocking on Matt Gaetz's door.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8B5XcTVgAM5Lhm.jpg

Belgarion wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:03am:

The bastardised version of the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain has arrived in Australia via US TV and movies and is exploited by businesses to make a profit.  That the concept of allowing children to enter strangers premises and demand lollies with menaces is something to be embraced shows the intelligence level of some people.

Today's trick 'n tricksters are tomorrow's home invaders. 

"Where's Nancy?"

Then there was the scary 'clowns' of Campbelltown appearing where people least expected them to be.
I don't know what the problem was really? It seemed to upset the virtuous Australian Media.
Maybe this form of Entertainment has to be sanctioned by the Media first and pay a fee, before performing publically?
Campbelltown fames itself on Fischer's Ghost too, btw.

Santa Claus: based on a true Finnish account of an old forest hobo guy who would eat the same mushies the reindeer ate and get high on his magic sleigh. The reindeer are famous for bumping into trees on mushies - hence the sore red noses.
...funny how the Mafia-Media of the USA has basically changed the facts of nearly every 'international' thing.
Just like the Fake-Political Democrats who are the Mafia Media and its international crimes of terrorism against other nations. F*ucking Taiwan was still calling itself a part of China just a few decades ago.

SEOUL: YELLOW PEOPLE CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN WITH A SACRIFICE OF 160 DEAD IN HONOUR OF THE MASS POPULATION PRIDE MOVEMENT.

Aww - not so squeezee.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=seoul+halloween&&view=detail&mid=3088B79A62832F4507683088B79A62832F450768&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dseoul%2Bhalloween%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

Nosferalu

Bloodsucker Of The Suburbs

Jasin wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 3:27pm:

SEOUL: YELLOW PEOPLE CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN WITH A SACRIFICE OF 160 DEAD IN HONOUR OF THE MASS POPULATION PRIDE MOVEMENT. Aww - not so squeezee. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=seoul+halloween&&view=detail&mid=3088B79A62832F4507683088B79A62832F450768&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dseoul%2Bhalloween%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

A squid game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH4Y450PSVM

;D ;D

There is a suburb around Parkhurst in north Rockhampton called "Edenbrook Estate". On Saturday night, I watched as children (mainly teens) were dressed up in Halloween costumes. It seems that the suburb was the only one in town doing the Halloween theme.

Australia: Ruled by Britain, populated by Americans

Pack of Seppo bullshit .....

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:58am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:41am: Gordon wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:11am: Who cares where it came from, it's really fun for kids. Don't be such a misery guts. I'll be taking my 5yo this arvo. Trick or treat Smell my feet Give me something good to eat In our little town, we have a register of people's names and their addresses where the kids can safely knock in order to get their sugar kicks.  It also stops hoards of kids banging on my front door for half the night. Come on! If your house isn't decorated the kids bypass it. Unless of course it's my place! I seriously can't stand this dark pagan celebration and I have nothing on my property remotely suggesting that I'm into Halloween. Unfortunately the kids and their parents know that I give treats to everyone ALL the freaking time! Anyway .... later on this afternoon I'll do what I always do...chop up lots of fresh carrot sticks for the kids to grab and chomp on. Why? They're orange and sweet (fits the Halloween theme). They're refreshing and healthy. And parents VERY MUCH appreciate seeing their kids eat veges instead of chocolates and lollies.

Pagan?


Quote:

What is the meaning of All Hallows Eve? Image result for all hallows eve Halloween, contraction of All Hallows' Eve, a holiday observed on October 31, the evening before All Saints' (or All Hallows') Day. The celebration marks the day before the Western Christian feast of All Saints and initiates the season of Allhallowtide, which lasts three days and concludes with All Souls' Day.28 Oct 2022 Halloween | Definition, Origin, History, & Facts | Britannicahttps://www.britannica.com › ... › Festivals & Holidays

Like any kid would knock on your Housing Commission flat door!

issuevoter wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Insidious? Here we go again. There is a section of the Australian population that fixates on Anti-Americanism. Halloween is not American and until recent years, it was not "celebrated" in the US, except in the old New England states like Mass, Conn, NH, Maine and Vermont. It was particularly frowned upon by the Southern Baptists and other Christian US sects. Holloween, as we are now seeing it in Australia is nothing more than a marketing ploy by Australian importers of garish orange and black plastic geegaws produced in China. Americans don't give a rats ass whether Australians buy into it or not. What is insidious is Anti-Americanism in Australia.

BS. I remember halloween in VA, colarado, and california in 1964.

Spot

issuevoter wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Insidious? Here we go again. There is a section of the Australian population that fixates on Anti-Americanism. Halloween is not American and until recent years, it was not "celebrated" in the US, except in the old New England states like Mass, Conn, NH, Maine and Vermont. It was particularly frowned upon by the Southern Baptists and other Christian US sects. Holloween, as we are now seeing it in Australia is nothing more than a marketing ploy by Australian importers of garish orange and black plastic geegaws produced in China. Americans don't give a rats ass whether Australians buy into it or not. What is insidious is Anti-Americanism in Australia.

I beg to differ ... what do you call "recent times"?

It's been a thing in the US pre- television in Australia 1956...... my whole life time.

I'm not anti-american ...... I'm against the adoption of their social/cultural practises, the blatant consumerism pushed & the use of American language.

Footpath not sidewalk, mobile phone not cell phone, ute not pickup truck, railway line not railroad track, patty cake not cup cake, arse not ass, nappy not diaper.

hell we've even lost the old 2 up salute to the extended middle finger of "flipping the bird".

I even have one of my grandsons saying the US version for grass - "grr -ass".

Do you pronounce "buoy" as boy  or

like a yank - "boo-ey"?

Do you say "semi" or "sem-eye" trailer?

"hemi" or "hem-eye sphere"?
::)

I'm not Anti-American.
I'm just Anti-American Media (Mafia).
Which is also Anti-American too by the look of it.

Australia, N.America & S.America need to kick the Media out to where it belongs in Oceania...
...like Europe, Africa & Asia kicking Religion out back to the Middle-East (so it can start wars in its own backyard).