Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything.

Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative.

Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuqDu9ZCP_c

It wasn't that long ago Twitter would ban people for spreading misinformation by saying covid vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. Dr Martensen has the twitter screenshots showing their idiotic policy which people are now trying to claim never happened as it has been proven vaccine doesn't prevent transmission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MS-nPWTY2w

This one has the UN representative saying ‘We own the science’ & ‘the world should know it’ so ‘we partnered with Google’ to ensure only UN climate results appear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYpvPOkslgQ

Sometimes i have to search for the author in finding papers otherwise it's almost impossible to find them.

Welcome to the new world that George Orwell predicted.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:13pm:

Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything. Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative. Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers.

Doctor of Medicine?

I just want to get the facts straight.

CarlD uses this service ;)

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Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:13pm:

Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything. Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative. Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuqDu9ZCP_c It wasn't that long ago Twitter would ban people for spreading misinformation by saying covid vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. Dr Martensen has the twitter screenshots showing their idiotic policy which people are now trying to claim never happened as it has been proven vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MS-nPWTY2w This one has the UN representative saying ‘We own the science’ & ‘the world should know it’ so ‘we partnered with Google’ to ensure only UN climate results appear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYpvPOkslgQ Sometimes i have to search for the author in finding papers otherwise it's almost impossible to find them. Welcome to the new world that George Orwell predicted.

We own the science’ & ‘the world should know it’ so ‘we partnered with Google’ to ensure only UN climate results appear

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:13pm: Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything. Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative. Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers. Doctor of Medicine? I just want to get the facts straight.

Nope; not as we downunder understand the term to mean.  Campbell
is only a nurse educator, not a medical doctor, who likes to big note
himself.  A lot of the stuff he propounds is up to date and reliable, but
mixed into the brew is also a lot of personal homilies that are only his
opinion about a subject.    And opinions are not facts.

In short, it's a waste of time citing Campbell as a sole, infallible authority
on anything of a medical or clinical nature.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:28pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:13pm: Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything. Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative. Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers. Doctor of Medicine? I just want to get the facts straight. Nope; not as we downunder understand the term to mean.  Campbell is only a nurse educator, not a medical doctor, who likes to big note himself.  A lot of the stuff he propounds is up to date and reliable, but mixed into the brew is also a lot of personal homilies that are only his opinion about a subject.    And opinions are not facts. In short, it's a waste of time citing Campbell as a sole, infallible authority on anything of a medical or clinical nature.

Nobody said anything remotely like that. What a ridiculous thing to say.

Who do YOU cite as "sole, infallible authority on anything of a medical or clinical nature". You have some seriously advanced fetish about authority.


Anyway, just because opinions are not facts ( a banality) they are not, therefore, wrong.  Facts are ALWAYS incomplete.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

A lot of the stuff [Campbell] propounds is up to date and reliable, but mixed into the brew is also a lot of personal homilies that are only his opinion about a subject.    And opinions are not facts. In short, it's a waste of time citing Campbell as a sole, infallible authority on anything of a medical or clinical nature.

I noted an oblique swipe Campbell took at WHO Director-General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

Campbell obliquely questioned Tedros's medical credentials and experience, characterising him as primarily an Ethiopian politician while not crediting him with experience in anything else.

Whatever one's (or Campbell's) personal opinion is of Tedros, he should at least be credited with his education and experience other than politics - and it's not that it's hard to source - which surely is at least as creditable as Campbell's own education and experience.

In 1986, Tedros received a Bachelor of Science degree in biology from the University of Asmara. He studied at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine and was awarded a Master of Science degree in immunology of infectious diseases from the University of London in 1992. In 2000, he earned a Doctor of Philosophy in community health from the University of Nottingham for research on the effects of dams on malaria transmission in the Tigray region.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:37am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 8:14am: A lot of the stuff [Campbell] propounds is up to date and reliable, but mixed into the brew is also a lot of personal homilies that are only his opinion about a subject.    And opinions are not facts. In short, it's a waste of time citing Campbell as a sole, infallible authority on anything of a medical or clinical nature. I noted an oblique swipe Campbell took at WHO Director-General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. Campbell obliquely questioned Tedros's medical credentials and experience, characterising him as primarily an Ethiopian politician while not crediting him with experience in anything else. Whatever one's (or Campbell's) personal opinion is of Tedros, he should at least be credited with his education and experience other than politics - and it's not that it's hard to source - which surely is at least as creditable as Campbell's own education and experience. In 1986, Tedros received a Bachelor of Science degree in biology from the University of Asmara. He studied at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine and was awarded a Master of Science degree in immunology of infectious diseases from the University of London in 1992. In 2000, he earned a Doctor of Philosophy in community health from the University of Nottingham for research on the effects of dams on malaria transmission in the Tigray region.

You forgot that he is a good dancer in the gay bars :D LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw91AcozYlI

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:28pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:13pm: Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything. Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative. Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers. Doctor of Medicine? I just want to get the facts straight. Nope; not as we downunder understand the term to mean.  Campbell is only a nurse educator, not a medical doctor, who likes to big note himself.  A lot of the stuff he propounds is up to date and reliable, but mixed into the brew is also a lot of personal homilies that are only his opinion about a subject.    And opinions are not facts. In short, it's a waste of time citing Campbell as a sole, infallible authority on anything of a medical or clinical nature.

You are a fine one to talk about opinions Dopey. Your opinions are not fact although you seem to think they are. Reading some of your posts you seem to think you are some sort of "source" for everything covid. Just keep your boosters up to date Dopey. We are depending on it.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:00am:

You forgot that he is a good dancer in the gay bars :D LOL []https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw91AcozYlI[]

So, you've met him then. Did he buy you a drink?

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 7:28pm:

CarlD uses this service ;)

Perhaps you should give it a try yourself before you post some of the ridiculous rubbish we've seen from you on a regular basis?

And take your alter ego Reggie along with you.  :)

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 10:00am: You forgot that he is a good dancer in the gay bars :D LOL []https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw91AcozYlI[] So, you've met him then. Did he buy you a drink?

I think groggary sent me the video. he's a frequenter of these types of joints :D LOL

Carl D wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:28pm: CarlD uses this service ;) Perhaps you should give it a try yourself before you post some of the ridiculous rubbish we've seen from you on a regular basis? And take your alter ego Reggie along with you.  :)

Hey Karl buddy, chum, matey. I see you are still breathing. I'm happy your prefrontal lobotomy was a success. Who ever thought it was possible for a creature to survive with half a brain and then have another 1/16th of that 1/2 taken away, well kudos to to you matey. Pity after all that brain work you had done its going to be the vax that will get you.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 11:08am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 10:30am: Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 10:00am: You forgot that he is a good dancer in the gay bars :D LOL []https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw91AcozYlI[] So, you've met him then. Did he buy you a drink? I think groggary sent me the video. he's a frequenter of these types of joints :D LOL

Yeppp... 'Yeah, that's my face, but the dick in the pic's not mine. I was holding it for a friend'.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:28pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:13pm: Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything. Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative. Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers. Doctor of Medicine? I just want to get the facts straight. Nope; not as we downunder understand the term to mean.  Campbell is only a nurse educator, not a medical doctor, who likes to big note himself.  A lot of the stuff he propounds is up to date and reliable, but mixed into the brew is also a lot of personal homilies that are only his opinion about a subject.    And opinions are not facts. In short, it's a waste of time citing Campbell as a sole, infallible authority on anything of a medical or clinical nature.

Dr Campbell is more than qualified to talk about this.


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Campbell received a diploma in nursing from the University of London and Bachelor of Science in biology from the Open University. He subsequently earned a Master of Science in health science from the University of Lancaster and a Ph.D. in nursing education from the University of Bolton.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)

Dr Campbell has probably forgotten more than what old boomers like you know.

Anything to say about him citing the British Journal of Medicine calling fact checkers incompetent and irresponsible or do you prefer to ignore the BMJ and shoot the messenger because it goes against your narrative?

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Dr Campbell has probably forgotten more than what old boomers like you know.

And yet he did not credit Tedros with the same and instead took a swipe at him by describing him as an Ethiopian politician.

I think Campbell has become a media whore and quasi-politician - becoming more concerned about his approval ratings than ethics or honesty.

That, and his self-obsession with being the single-handed, messianic 'saviour of the world'.

Codgerism at its worst.

wombatwoody wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 7:56am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12th, 2022 at 7:13pm: Fact checking has become the new buzzwords for lefties who think they know everything. Most of these fact checkers are journalists who don't specialise in what they're checking they just form an opinion and push that narrative. Dr Campbell on these fact checkers with interesting replies from the British Medical Journal on the errors of fact checkers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuqDu9ZCP_c It wasn't that long ago Twitter would ban people for spreading misinformation by saying covid vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. Dr Martensen has the twitter screenshots showing their idiotic policy which people are now trying to claim never happened as it has been proven vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MS-nPWTY2w This one has the UN representative saying ‘We own the science’ & ‘the world should know it’ so ‘we partnered with Google’ to ensure only UN climate results appear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYpvPOkslgQ Sometimes i have to search for the author in finding papers otherwise it's almost impossible to find them. Welcome to the new world that George Orwell predicted. We own the science’ & ‘the world should know it’ so ‘we partnered with Google’ to ensure only UN climate results appear

We have Twitter and Facebook admitting to censoring stuff that doesn't agree with CDC, we also have youtube banning people for doing the same thing.

We have the UN admitting they choose what people can see in promoting climate change religion.

A reasonable person would be outraged over this blatant censorship where any opposing voices are silenced.

To find the truth you need to hear both sides to find the truth which might be contained in some of what both sides say.

A heap of misinformation lies from these people on covid which has never been fact checked. They're on video telling lies and the sheeple believe these lies and never question them. It shows how stupid they are when they actually believe these lies.
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1580101346652753920?cxt=HHwWgMDUxbLz0u0rAAAA

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 5:42pm: Dr Campbell has probably forgotten more than what old boomers like you know. And yet he did not credit Tedros with the same and instead took a swipe at him by describing him as an Ethiopian politician. I think Campbell has become a media whore and quasi-politician - becoming more concerned about his approval ratings than ethics or honesty. That, and his self-obsession with being the single-handed, messianic 'saviour of the world'. Codgerism at its worst.

Dr Campbell has a degree in Biology and a masters in medical science. He is one of the few who actually followed real science instead of political science (fluent bullshit) in this pandemic.

He has never claimed to be saviour of the world he cites and provides links for every paper her talks about. Like a good scientist he has changed his position on several things when evidence proved it was wrong. Alfred Wegener came up with continental drift theory over 100 years ago he was mocked and ridiculed by mainstream science around 1967 they all realised he was right and every geology textbook was pulped and new ones printed when continental drift was accepted.

Of course he should have a swipe at the WHO they like just about everyone else stuffed up all aspects in handling this pandemic.

Does anyone remember this?


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World Health Organization (WHO) @WHO Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳. https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 5:53pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 5:42pm: Dr Campbell has probably forgotten more than what old boomers like you know. And yet he did not credit Tedros with the same and instead took a swipe at him by describing him as an Ethiopian politician. I think Campbell has become a media whore and quasi-politician - becoming more concerned about his approval ratings than ethics or honesty. That, and his self-obsession with being the single-handed, messianic 'saviour of the world'. Codgerism at its worst. Dr Campbell has a degree in Biology and a masters in medical science. He is one of the few who actually followed real science instead of political science (fluent bullshit) in this pandemic.

Does he now... So he's a moral force for good because he has the ability to earn a degree. Is there a correlation between intelligence and morality?

'Followed real science'? What is real science, as opposed to science?

Most fact checking is accurate.

Fact checking would be less needed if the Right occasionally used some facts.

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Fact check: Research papers have put forward evidence for airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Reuters Staff Posts shared widely on social media allege there is no scientific basis behind the use of face coverings during the COVID-19 pandemic. This is false. The claim was shared on Jan. 9 and consisted of a quote from “Dr David Martin” claiming: “There is not a SINGLE paper – not one – that has actually documented that the pathogen detected in one patient was transmitted through the air from another patient…which means every single mask mandate is based on a BELIEF, not on science.” Face coverings Many governments have recommended face coverings to reduce the transmission of COVID-19, for instance here and here . According to the Meedan Digital Health Lab, “mask wearing is a fundamental element of pandemic response for respiratory illnesses because masks act as a physical barrier from the release of infectious respiratory droplets that may come from your mouth or nose when you speak, sing, sneeze or cough.” (here) This information is repeated by the CDC (here), WHO (here) and others. This guidance is not based on a belief, as the post falsely claims, but scientific evidence that masks reduce the spread of droplets containing the virus.

Masks don't work the evidence from how many RCTs is very clear.

The fact checker was wrong.

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Dnarever wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:50pm:

Most fact checking is accurate. Fact checking would be less needed if the Right occasionally used some facts.

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Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 6:50pm: Most fact checking is accurate. Fact checking would be less needed if the Right occasionally used some facts.

Yes the vast majority of genuine fact checks get it right.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 5:40pm:

Masks don't work the evidence from how many RCTs is very clear. The fact checker was wrong.

Still sticking with the Cochrane Review, are we?

Statement on 'Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses' review


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The Cochrane Review 'Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses' was published in January 2023 and has been widely misinterpreted. Karla Soares-Weiser, Editor-in-Chief of the Cochrane Library, has responded on behalf of Cochrane:

"Many commentators have claimed that a recently-updated Cochrane Review shows that 'masks don't work', which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation.

It would be accurate to say that the review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses, and that the results were inconclusive. Given the limitations in the primary evidence, the review is not able to address the question of whether mask-wearing itself reduces people's risk of contracting or spreading respiratory viruses.

The review authors are clear on the limitations in the abstract: 'The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions.' Adherence in this context refers to the number of people who actually wore the provided masks when encouraged to do so as part of the intervention. For example, in the most heavily-weighted trial of interventions to promote community mask wearing, 42.3% of people in the intervention arm wore masks compared to 13.3% of those in the control arm.

The original Plain Language Summary for this review stated that 'We are uncertain whether wearing masks or N95/P2 respirators helps to slow the spread of respiratory viruses based on the studies we assessed.' This wording was open to misinterpretation, for which we apologize. While scientific evidence is never immune to misinterpretation, we take responsibility for not making the wording clearer from the outset. We are engaging with the review authors with the aim of updating the Plain Language Summary and abstract to make clear that the review looked at whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses".

You're welcome. Again.  :)

Carl D wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13th, 2023 at 5:40pm: Masks don't work the evidence from how many RCTs is very clear. The fact checker was wrong. Still sticking with the Cochrane Review, are we? Statement on 'Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses' review Quote: The Cochrane Review 'Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses' was published in January 2023 and has been widely misinterpreted. Karla Soares-Weiser, Editor-in-Chief of the Cochrane Library, has responded on behalf of Cochrane: [i][size=9]"Many commentators have claimed that a recently-updated Cochrane Review shows that 'masks don't work', which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation. It would be accurate to say that the review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses, and that the results were inconclusive. You're welcome. Again.  :)

The Cochrane report is why we aren't going to have mask mandates again. The Science is clear the 78 RCTs are the highest standard for evidence.

The RCTs show little to no difference between mask and no mask, the evidence with RCTs show little to no difference between surgical and N95s

If masks worked you would expect to see a big difference in  reducing infections yet they say little to no difference which shows masks don't work.

You're welcome :)

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Mask makers knew they don't work which is why they put warning labels on boxes.

If you catch covid don't sue us we told you they don't work

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

You're welcome Carl

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Who fact checks the fact checkers?

Easy:

The fact check checkers.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 12:06am:

Mask makers knew they don't work which is why they put warning labels on boxes. If you catch covid don't sue us we told you they don't work ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D You're welcome Carl

And yet countries that used Masks distancing and isolation had much less covid deaths. Maybe it was the label on the box that didn't work.

Maybe they were just protecting their bottom.

Masks were never primarily about protecting yourself they were about preventing you from spreading to others. Nothing on the box about that.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 12:22am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14th, 2023 at 12:06am: Mask makers knew they don't work which is why they put warning labels on boxes. If you catch covid don't sue us we told you they don't work ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D You're welcome Carl And yet countries that used Masks distancing and isolation had much less covid deaths. Maybe it was the label on the box that didn't work.

Germany had N95 mask mandates how did they compare to Sweden?

If masks worked you would expect to see a huge difference.

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Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 12:06am:

Mask makers knew they don't work which is why they put warning labels on boxes. If you catch covid don't sue us we told you they don't work ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D You're welcome Carl

And here's Baronvonrort with the 'baggy blue' surgical mask image again.

I don't know how many times I (and others) have tried to explain this.

WEAR A HIGH QUALITY MASK LIKE AN N95 NOT SURGICAL 'BAGGY BLUES' (which are only designed to protect surgeons from blood splatters, etc. while they're doing operations).

Seriously - what it is with these antivaxxers and conspiracy nuts with their endless posting of the same disproved nonsense over and over...?

Is it a sign of low intelligence?
Is it a sign of brain damage (memory issues) from catching Covid?
Is it a sign of trolling?

Or is it all 3?

Who knows?  ::)

And, yes... you're welcome (again).

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Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 12:49am:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14th, 2023 at 12:22am: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14th, 2023 at 12:06am: Mask makers knew they don't work which is why they put warning labels on boxes. If you catch covid don't sue us we told you they don't work ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D You're welcome Carl And yet countries that used Masks distancing and isolation had much less covid deaths. Maybe it was the label on the box that didn't work. Germany had N95 mask mandates how did they compare to Sweden? If masks worked you would expect to see a huge difference.

Wonder what difference a 400% bigger population with the associated greater population density makes ?

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2023 at 11:03pm: Dnarever wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 6:50pm: Most fact checking is accurate. Fact checking would be less needed if the Right occasionally used some facts. Yes the vast majority of genuine fact checks get it right.

except when you don't agree with it ;)

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 12:49am:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14th, 2023 at 12:22am: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14th, 2023 at 12:06am: Mask makers knew they don't work which is why they put warning labels on boxes. If you catch covid don't sue us we told you they don't work ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D You're welcome Carl And yet countries that used Masks distancing and isolation had much less covid deaths. Maybe it was the label on the box that didn't work. Germany had N95 mask mandates how did they compare to Sweden? If masks worked you would expect to see a huge difference.

They only work on sheep :D LOL

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Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 5:53pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 5:42pm: Dr Campbell has probably forgotten more than what old boomers like you know. And yet he did not credit Tedros with the same and instead took a swipe at him by describing him as an Ethiopian politician. I think Campbell has become a media whore and quasi-politician - becoming more concerned about his approval ratings than ethics or honesty. That, and his self-obsession with being the single-handed, messianic 'saviour of the world'. Codgerism at its worst. Dr Campbell has a degree in Biology and a masters in medical science.

No.

A masters in health science, not medical science.

But let's get to the "Dr" bit - is he a doctor of medicine or did he receive a Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos?

I'm curious.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

They only work on sheep :D LOL

Oh, is it meme time again already?

OK then, I'll play.

:)

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Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 1:08pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13th, 2023 at 11:10pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2023 at 11:03pm: Dnarever wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 6:50pm: Most fact checking is accurate. Fact checking would be less needed if the Right occasionally used some facts. Yes the vast majority of genuine fact checks get it right. except when you don't agree with it ;)

You almost never agree.

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In Feb. 2020, after a @nypost oped said COVID-19 came from a lab leak, Facebook censored the story. Why? Because "independent fact-checkers" said it was "False information." Not only was it true information, one of the fact-checkers had worked at the lab https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1668974170498015234

https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/facebook-fact-checkers-foul-again-after-censoring-post-story/amp/

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/new-covid-origins-study-links-pandemics-beginning-to-animals-not-a-lab International scientists who examined previously unavailable genetic data from samples collected at a market close to where the first human cases of COVID-19 were detected in China said they found suggestions the pandemic originated from animals, not a lab. The samples were collected from surfaces at the Huanan seafood market in Wuhan after the first human cases of COVID-19 were found in late 2019. Genetic sequencing data showed that some of the samples, which were known to be positive for the coronavirus, also contained genetic material from raccoon dogs, indicating the animals may have been infected by the virus, according to the scientists.

So they found the corona virus in animals at the market at the time the corona virus started infecting people.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 15^th, 2023 at 11:32pm:

Quote: In Feb. 2020, after a @nypost oped said COVID-19 came from a lab leak, Facebook censored the story. Why? Because "independent fact-checkers" said it was "False information." Not only was it true information, one of the fact-checkers had worked at the lab https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1668974170498015234 https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/facebook-fact-checkers-foul-again-after-censoring-post-story/amp/

This is possible but this has been known since 2021 and never confirmed to be true.

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Who fact checks the fact checkers?

I'm voting for Fox to fact check the fact checkers :D