https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-offers-lead-group-to-mediate-peace-russia-2022-9


Trump is offering to 'head up' a group
to negotiate peace between Russia and Ukraine


Cheryl Teh
16 hours ago

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    Trump suggested heading up a team to arrange a peace settlement between Ukraine and Russia.
    Referencing the leak in the Nord Stream pipeline, Trump said it's time to "get a negotiated deal."
    "The entire World is at stake," the former president wrote on Truth Social.

Former President Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday that he could lead a team to broker peace between Ukraine and Russia.

In several posts on Truth Social, Trump referenced the unprecedented leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines while offering ideas on what he could contribute to the situation.

In his first post, Trump claimed the pipeline had been sabotaged, which "could lead to major escalation, or War!"

"U.S. 'Leadership' should remain 'cool, calm, and dry' on the SABOTAGE of the Nord Stream Pipelines. This is a big event that should not entail a big solution, at least not yet," the former president wrote.

Trump also repeated his claim that the Ukraine war would never have happened if he had been president and offered solutions to the situation.

"Do not make matters worse with the pipeline blowup. Be strategic, be smart (brilliant!), get a negotiated deal done NOW," Trump wrote. "Both sides need and want it. The entire World is at stake. I will head up group???"

https://c.tenor.com/XYRRSkWQwn0AAAAC/putin-laughing.gif

Pure genius. Putin denies it all. Trump negotiates with Putin for doing it. Putin denies. Trump says he will take Ukraine and forgive Putin for the pipeline. Putin denies. Trump claims victory, the election and no more witches.

Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg

Trump makes major deal to buy Sydney Harbour Bridge, settles out of court with Vladimir Hogan for $900 bn. Both sides are happy.
29 September.  ABC News and The Washington Post say 47 percent of Republicans support Trump in 2024, a 20 percent drop from 2020.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 6:19am:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-offers-lead-group-to-mediate-peace-russia-2022-9 Trump is offering to 'head up' a group to negotiate peace between Russia and Ukraine Cheryl Teh 16 hours ago https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=410,quality=100/system/preview_cards/images/030/493/125/original/28691f60140ff75c.jpeg     Trump suggested heading up a team to arrange a peace settlement between Ukraine and Russia.     Referencing the leak in the Nord Stream pipeline, Trump said it's time to "get a negotiated deal."     "The entire World is at stake," the former president wrote on Truth Social. Former President Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday that he could lead a team to broker peace between Ukraine and Russia. In several posts on Truth Social, Trump referenced the unprecedented leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines while offering ideas on what he could contribute to the situation. In his first post, Trump claimed the pipeline had been sabotaged, which "could lead to major escalation, or War!" "U.S. 'Leadership' should remain 'cool, calm, and dry' on the SABOTAGE of the Nord Stream Pipelines. This is a big event that should not entail a big solution, at least not yet," the former president wrote. Trump also repeated his claim that the Ukraine war would never have happened if he had been president and offered solutions to the situation. "Do not make matters worse with the pipeline blowup. Be strategic, be smart (brilliant!), get a negotiated deal done NOW," Trump wrote. "Both sides need and want it. The entire World is at stake. I will head up group???"

Ha! That's like sending Jared Kushner to broker an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal.

Trump's the guy who tried to stiff Zalenski out of 50 mil worth of Congressional aid. Trump's the guy who praised Putin for invading Ukraine. And Trump's the guy who refuses to accept the legitimacy of the Biden administration. Trump knows Putin "very very well".

Russia, if you're listening...Could you please give me political asylum?

Genius.

A private citizen who looks directly into the sun during an eclipse, backed by Russian money, with a secret pee tape being held at the Kremlin, under investigation for several federal and state crimes, who couldn't negotiate himself out of five bankruptcies.

Makes perfect sense.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 8:41am:

A private citizen who looks directly into the sun during an eclipse, backed by Russian money, with a secret pee tape being held at the Kremlin, under investigation for several federal and state crimes, who couldn't negotiate himself out of five bankruptcies. Makes perfect sense.

He took the fifth.

Genius.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 6:19am:

Trump suggested heading up a team to arrange a peace settlement between Ukraine and Russia.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D x infinity

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 6:40am:

Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg

be funny if he pulls it off ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 9:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 6:40am: Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg be funny if he pulls it off ;)

Putin's cock?

Pretty sure he's already done that dear.

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 9:53am:

be funny if he pulls it off ;)

I say he give up ol' orange F A T T Y Tower and Mar-la-Barfo to Putin

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 6:40am:

Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg

That book was ghostwritten by Tony Schwartz.

Maybe Tony should try negotiating with Putin.

Putin invades Crimea so Trump negotiates to block aid for Ukraine. Putin denies he has an oil leak so what can Trump negotiate? He backs Putin who wants to lock up Zelensky. So Trump gives Ukraine to Putin in exchange for Russian troops at the Capitol 2024? Done deal!

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 9:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 6:40am: Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg be funny if he pulls it off ;)

Oh, I know. Imagine Sleepy Joe Biden sending Dear Leader off to head a team of diplomats to deal with Putin.

The same guy who fired the Ukrainian ambassador because Rudy's Russian-backed clients didn't like her. The same guy who tried to blackmail a foreign government into prosecuting Sleepy's son. The same guy who announced to the world, "I will say this, I see no reason why Putin would do it". The same guy currently being investigated for crimes under the espionage act.

Be funny if he pulled it off, no?

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 10:28am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 9:53am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 6:40am: Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg be funny if he pulls it off ;) Oh, I know. Imagine Sleepy Joe Biden sending Dear Leader off to head a team of diplomats to deal with Putin. The same guy who fired the Ukrainian ambassador because Rudy's Russian-backed clients didn't like her. The same guy who tried to blackmail a foreign government into prosecuting Sleepy's son. The same guy who announced to the world, "I will say this, I see no reason why Putin would do it". The same guy currently being investigated for crimes under the espionage act. Be funny if he pulled it off, no?

Karnal,
Trump is like a Messiah or a prophet who
will lead us to the promised land.
Only Trump can save us from a nuclear war
and bring peace to our planet.
Blessed are the peace makers.

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 10:28am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 9:53am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 6:40am: Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg be funny if he pulls it off ;) Oh, I know. Imagine Sleepy Joe Biden sending Dear Leader off to head a team of diplomats to deal with Putin. The same guy who fired the Ukrainian ambassador because Rudy's Russian-backed clients didn't like her. The same guy who tried to blackmail a foreign government into prosecuting Sleepy's son. The same guy who announced to the world, "I will say this, I see no reason why Putin would do it". The same guy currently being investigated for crimes under the espionage act. Be funny if he pulled it off, no?

There's only one thing old fatty is pulling off.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 6:19am:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-offers-lead-group-to-mediate-peace-russia-2022-9 Trump is offering to 'head up' a group to negotiate peace between Russia and Ukraine Cheryl Teh 16 hours ago https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=410,quality=100/system/preview_cards/images/030/493/125/original/28691f60140ff75c.jpeg     Trump suggested heading up a team to arrange a peace settlement between Ukraine and Russia.     Referencing the leak in the Nord Stream pipeline, Trump said it's time to "get a negotiated deal."     "The entire World is at stake," the former president wrote on Truth Social. Former President Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday that he could lead a team to broker peace between Ukraine and Russia. In several posts on Truth Social, Trump referenced the unprecedented leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines while offering ideas on what he could contribute to the situation. In his first post, Trump claimed the pipeline had been sabotaged, which "could lead to major escalation, or War!" "U.S. 'Leadership' should remain 'cool, calm, and dry' on the SABOTAGE of the Nord Stream Pipelines. This is a big event that should not entail a big solution, at least not yet," the former president wrote. Trump also repeated his claim that the Ukraine war would never have happened if he had been president and offered solutions to the situation. "Do not make matters worse with the pipeline blowup. Be strategic, be smart (brilliant!), get a negotiated deal done NOW," Trump wrote. "Both sides need and want it. The entire World is at stake. I will head up group???"

👆 I had to read this twice.

I get that Trump is/was a mate of Putin. Is this what Trump is relying on? Even now?

Trump knows the Mafia concrete business, refusing to pay debts and treason. It's in Putin's genes. Honour among thieves.

LOL... A failed president who's now a private citizen facing numerous
criminal charges negotiating with anyone on the world stage sounds
like a script for a future Monty Python film.

Things were fairly serious until the end of the Soviets. Since then, the whole world scenery has become increasingly Monty Python. There are star actors these days.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

LOL... A failed president who's now a private citizen facing numerous criminal charges negotiating with anyone on the world stage sounds like a script for a future Monty Python film.

And Now For Something Completely Insane

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

LOL... A failed president who's now a private citizen facing numerous criminal charges negotiating with anyone on the world stage sounds like a script for a future Monty Python film.

They called Jesus a criminal too.

Great Trump sent 2000 thugs to attack the seat of government. It's not quite the style of Jesus.

chimera wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 1:19pm:

Great Trump sent 2000 thugs to attack the seat of government. It's not quite the style of Jesus.

Jesus turned over the tables of the money lenders in the temple.

Trump told Rudi to collect the coins into twelve baskets and feed the Trumps. Jesus said the money lenders were thieves and Trump should pay Rudi the bill.

Trump would ride a tough deal, he would give Ukraine to Russia.

chimera wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Trump told Rudi to collect the coins into twelve baskets and feed the Trumps. Jesus said the money lenders were thieves and Trump should pay Rudi the bill.

Trump didn't pay anyone especially Rudy.

He had a deal with the money changers and built Jerusalem Tower. Rudi gets Putin's oiligarchs to flow with milk and honey. Trump is their tax expert at a price.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 11:35am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 10:28am: Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 9:53am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 6:40am: Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg be funny if he pulls it off ;) Oh, I know. Imagine Sleepy Joe Biden sending Dear Leader off to head a team of diplomats to deal with Putin. The same guy who fired the Ukrainian ambassador because Rudy's Russian-backed clients didn't like her. The same guy who tried to blackmail a foreign government into prosecuting Sleepy's son. The same guy who announced to the world, "I will say this, I see no reason why Putin would do it". The same guy currently being investigated for crimes under the espionage act. Be funny if he pulled it off, no? There's only one thing old fatty is pulling off.

Not Melania's knickers, Greggery. Dear Leader's been in the dog house since he became prez.

Looks like the FBI got in first, no?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 6:19am:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-offers-lead-group-to-mediate-peace-russia-2022-9 Trump is offering to 'head up' a group to negotiate peace between Russia and Ukraine Cheryl Teh 16 hours ago https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=410,quality=100/system/preview_cards/images/030/493/125/original/28691f60140ff75c.jpeg     Trump suggested heading up a team to arrange a peace settlement between Ukraine and Russia.     Referencing the leak in the Nord Stream pipeline, Trump said it's time to "get a negotiated deal."     "The entire World is at stake," the former president wrote on Truth Social. Former President Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday that he could lead a team to broker peace between Ukraine and Russia. In several posts on Truth Social, Trump referenced the unprecedented leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines while offering ideas on what he could contribute to the situation. In his first post, Trump claimed the pipeline had been sabotaged, which "could lead to major escalation, or War!" "U.S. 'Leadership' should remain 'cool, calm, and dry' on the SABOTAGE of the Nord Stream Pipelines. This is a big event that should not entail a big solution, at least not yet," the former president wrote. Trump also repeated his claim that the Ukraine war would never have happened if he had been president and offered solutions to the situation. "Do not make matters worse with the pipeline blowup. Be strategic, be smart (brilliant!), get a negotiated deal done NOW," Trump wrote. "Both sides need and want it. The entire World is at stake. I will head up group???"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

chimera wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 1:19pm:

Great Trump sent 2000 thugs to attack the seat of government. It's not quite the style of Jesus.

😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆🤣😆😂🤣😆


My poor coffee ☕️

Make that other great deal maker John Useless Howard Trump’s deputy!

WWIII in 1, 2. . . .

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 7:49am:

Make that other great deal maker John Useless Howard Trump’s deputy! WWIII in 1, 2. . . .

Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg

You really ARE an idiot, aren’t you?

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:06am:

You really ARE an idiot, aren’t you?

Stop being a troll.
Try and inject something sensible into the argument.   ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 11:35am:

There's only one thing old fatty is pulling off.

Well I guess if your missus has closed the meat curtains, that's all that's left.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 6:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 11:35am: There's only one thing old fatty is pulling off. Well I guess if your missus has closed the meat curtains, that's all that's left.

Well, it's not all that's left.

https://i.pinimg.com/222x/cb/70/db/cb70db19d83e7a75688a98a00eb5186a.jpg

(Tell me that's not the creepiest thing you've ever seen)

What's she got underneath, an armoured jacket with capsicum spray?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:00am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 7:49am: Make that other great deal maker John Useless Howard Trump’s deputy! WWIII in 1, 2. . . . Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg

You know that Trump didn't write The Art of the Deal - right ?

The guy who actually wrote it has since said that not much of it is true.

chimera wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 7:10pm:

What's she got underneath, an armoured jacket with capsicum spray?

"When you're a star they let you do it -
you can do anything"

Dnarever wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 7:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:00am: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 7:49am: Make that other great deal maker John Useless Howard Trump’s deputy! WWIII in 1, 2. . . . Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg You know that Trump didn't write The Art of the Deal - right ? The guy who actually wrote it has since said that not much of it is true.

Trump survived 5 bankruptcies so he must be good at making deals.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 7:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 7:12pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:00am: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 7:49am: Make that other great deal maker John Useless Howard Trump’s deputy! WWIII in 1, 2. . . . Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg You know that Trump didn't write The Art of the Deal - right ? The guy who actually wrote it has since said that not much of it is true. Trump survived 5 bankruptcies so he must be good at making deals.

That only shows that he is good at hiding money.

Trump would struggle to negotiate breakfast at Mar A Lago

'Your Honor, my client claims protection by bankruptcy due to a bad day at the club. His refill Bud came back empty along with the $1.50 watch he offered as security. Normal business practice was 17 golf-clubs but with several accountants now in San Quentin and golf ball retailers being too demanding he now has 5 that are financial. The casinos can't get chips, the hotels are out of milk and the concrete is watered down.
He doesn't know what to get for lunch and I won't get paid either and could you spare a dime, buddy?'

Bobby. wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 7:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 7:12pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:00am: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 7:49am: Make that other great deal maker John Useless Howard Trump’s deputy! WWIII in 1, 2. . . . Trump can strike a deal that both sides are happy with: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1442705949i/1032.jpg You know that Trump didn't write The Art of the Deal - right ? The guy who actually wrote it has since said that not much of it is true. Trump survived 5 bankruptcies so he must be good at making deals.

Bobby, what do you think of a prez who negotiates with the FBI to keep 11,000 classified government records, in violation of the espionage act?

You still haven't said.

We have already seen Putin bamboozle Trump when he was POTUS. Why anyone would believe Trump could achieve anything now is not logical.

well

he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite.

merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas.

biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength.

putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet.

putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals.

they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has).

now , 350 million people may well starve

well done leftie intellectual elite.
your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 8:14am:

well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::)

Germany (and the EU) is decommitting from reliance on Russian energy, as Russia's instability will survive Putin.

Trump publicly announced that the US would exit Afghanistan, thereby giving US diplomats no leverage over the Taliban - All the Taliban had to do was hold fast and wait.

If Putin uses a nuclear weapon, NATO will act.

Putin will be lucky if he dies of natural causes.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 8:14am:

well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::)

None of this is a reason to believe Trump could negotiate peace between Ukraine and the Putin Muscovites. They are having way to much fun seeing people blown to bits. You can see it on Putin's face.

issuevoter wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 10:13am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:14am: well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::) None of this is a reason to believe Trump could negotiate peace between Ukraine and the Putin Muscovites. They are having way to much fun seeing people blown to bits. You can see it on Putin's face.

I'd like to see Ukraine annex Russia to
show Putin what it's like.  :)

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 8:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:14am: well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::) Germany (and the EU) is decommitting from reliance on Russian energy, as Russia's instability will survive Putin. Trump publicly announced that the US would exit Afghanistan, thereby giving US diplomats no leverage over the Taliban - All the Taliban had to do was hold fast and wait. If Putin uses a nuclear weapon, NATO will act. Putin will be lucky if he dies of natural causes.

please elaborate

issuevoter wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 10:13am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:14am: well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::) None of this is a reason to believe Trump could negotiate peace between Ukraine and the Putin Muscovites. They are having way to much fun seeing people blown to bits. You can see it on Putin's face.

i dont think putin enjoys demolishing the ukraine,


but he enjoys winning and if he cant annex it, he can demolish it and with it demolish a lot of food and energy security and destabilise the west.

a destablised west means more power for him.

he has obviously read and understood "the art of war" and "the 48 laws of power"

the west has not.

they would never have listened to a 14 yo swedish austistic and gone down the route they did if they had read and understood those books.

that the problem with the smug self satisfied intellectual elite.

they are too smug  ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:23am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:14am: well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::) Germany (and the EU) is decommitting from reliance on Russian energy, as Russia's instability will survive Putin. Trump publicly announced that the US would exit Afghanistan, thereby giving US diplomats no leverage over the Taliban - All the Taliban had to do was hold fast and wait. If Putin uses a nuclear weapon, NATO will act. Putin will be lucky if he dies of natural causes. please elaborate

NATO has warned Putin that any nuclear fallout or contamination that reaches a NATO country will be considered an act of war against NATO.

NATO has indicated that any use of a nuclear weapon will trigger a military response from NATO but stops short of a declaration of war on Russia. What Russia chooses to make of any NATO, let's say, 'special military operation' will be for Russia to determine.

Russia has 6300 nuclear votes to US at 3750 warheads. India and China may vote with Russia, UK will decline again to a nation of shopkeepers. Probably Russia will vote US go home.

chimera wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 12:45pm:

Russia has 6300 nuclear votes to US at 3750 warheads. India and China may vote with Russia, UK will decline again to a nation of shopkeepers. Probably Russia will vote US go home.

Actually Russia and the USA have about the same number of nukes -
about 6,000 each.
That's enough to wipe out the whole planet many times over.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 12:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 12:16pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:23am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:14am: well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::) Germany (and the EU) is decommitting from reliance on Russian energy, as Russia's instability will survive Putin. Trump publicly announced that the US would exit Afghanistan, thereby giving US diplomats no leverage over the Taliban - All the Taliban had to do was hold fast and wait. If Putin uses a nuclear weapon, NATO will act. Putin will be lucky if he dies of natural causes. please elaborate NATO has warned Putin that any nuclear fallout or contamination that reaches a NATO country will be considered an act of war against NATO. NATO has indicated that any use of a nuclear weapon will trigger a military response from NATO but stops short of a declaration of war on Russia. What Russia chooses to make of any NATO, let's say, 'special military operation' will be for Russia to determine.

putin hunts wild animals
he fights in the ring
he rides bikes and horses
he mountain climbs and abseils

the guy has demonstrated he has no great "death anxiety"

the leftie intellectual elite almost become apoplectic with rage if someone doesnt wear a mask or socially distance.  fear and death anxiety are their whole reason for living (if you want to call it that).

they wont fire a nuke back at vlad.

they will retreat to their basement and crap talk him on line and assume the moral high ground.

gutlessness masquerading as virtue

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 2:20pm:

putin hunts wild animals he fights in the ring he rides bikes and horses he mountain climbs and abseils the guy has demonstrated he has no great "death anxiety" the leftie intellectual elite almost become apoplectic with rage if someone doesnt wear a mask or socially distance.  fear and death anxiety are their whole reason for living (if you want to call it that). they wont fire a nuke back at vlad. they will retreat to their basement and crap talk him on line and assume the moral high ground. gutlessness masquerading as virtue

Putin is a murderer - he's a beast.
He's the anti-Christ.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 2:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 2:20pm: putin hunts wild animals he fights in the ring he rides bikes and horses he mountain climbs and abseils the guy has demonstrated he has no great "death anxiety" the leftie intellectual elite almost become apoplectic with rage if someone doesnt wear a mask or socially distance.  fear and death anxiety are their whole reason for living (if you want to call it that). they wont fire a nuke back at vlad. they will retreat to their basement and crap talk him on line and assume the moral high ground. gutlessness masquerading as virtue Putin is a murderer - he's a beast. He's the anti-Christ.

Indeed.

And aquascoot is defending him.

He actually worships him.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 2:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 2:36pm: aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 2:20pm: putin hunts wild animals he fights in the ring he rides bikes and horses he mountain climbs and abseils the guy has demonstrated he has no great "death anxiety" the leftie intellectual elite almost become apoplectic with rage if someone doesnt wear a mask or socially distance.  fear and death anxiety are their whole reason for living (if you want to call it that). they wont fire a nuke back at vlad. they will retreat to their basement and crap talk him on line and assume the moral high ground. gutlessness masquerading as virtue Putin is a murderer - he's a beast. He's the anti-Christ. Indeed. And aquascoot is defending him. He actually worships him.

I think Aqua is just winding us up.
He knows that 1000s of innocent people have been executed
in cold blood by the Russians.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 2:20pm:

the guy has demonstrated he has no great "death anxiety"

Well, yes. That is one of the traits of narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathy.

Taking extremely high risks, without concern for consequences and the welfare of others.

There is a great story that highlights this, about a German tour guide in Brazil who led a group of hikers into the Amazon to their deaths (including his own). Only two survived and then only within hours of death.

Sociopaths like Putin are a danger to themselves and anyone they control.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 1:11pm:

Russia and the USA have about the same number of nukes - .

By various counts, Russia is ahead maybe by ~700 or around 12% more.  After factoring in Putin's psychosis, Biden's senility, Zelensky's victories and vodka at 55% alcohol, the winner is a politician.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 8:14am:

well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::)

Option "B" was better for you.


Option "B" - Post something that it true.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 3:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 2:20pm: the guy has demonstrated he has no great "death anxiety" Well, yes. That is one of the traits of narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathy. Taking extremely high risks, without concern for consequences and the welfare of others. There is a great story that highlights this, about a German tour guide in Brazil who led a group of hikers into the Amazon to their deaths (including his own). Only two survived and then only within hours of death. Sociopaths like Putin are a danger to themselves and anyone they control.

correct.

and because the west is governed by weak sauce utopians, he now controls them.

sorry meister but in this world, vlad will get to do whatever he wants.

gweggy says i support him.

incorrect.

but i recognise you cant fight him.

if you want to beat him you need Charlie Wilson, a rightie with street smarts, not scalding leftie intellectuals  ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 4:28pm:

correct. and because the west is governed by weak sauce utopians, he now controls them. sorry meister but in this world, vlad will get to do whatever he wants. gweggy says i support him. incorrect. but i recognise you cant fight him. if you want to beat him you need Charlie Wilson, a rightie with street smarts, not scalding leftie intellectuals

No. Putin is a danger to himself. He will be ended.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 4:28pm:

you cant fight him.

Grozny (TV channel) (Q4150108)

TV and radio channel in Chechnya, Russia
Chechen State Television and Radio Company "Grozny".
Defeat is in the air.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:28pm: correct. and because the west is governed by weak sauce utopians, he now controls them. sorry meister but in this world, vlad will get to do whatever he wants. gweggy says i support him. incorrect. but i recognise you cant fight him. if you want to beat him you need Charlie Wilson, a rightie with street smarts, not scalding leftie intellectuals  No. Putin is a danger to himself. He will be ended.

Indeed, he will.

And then Trump, and all the other fascist sociopaths destroying the world.

The future looks good   :)

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:28pm: correct. and because the west is governed by weak sauce utopians, he now controls them. sorry meister but in this world, vlad will get to do whatever he wants. gweggy says i support him. incorrect. but i recognise you cant fight him. if you want to beat him you need Charlie Wilson, a rightie with street smarts, not scalding leftie intellectuals  No. Putin is a danger to himself. He will be ended.

here in the west, all the bwave keyboard warriors like gweggy can go online and throw insults at their leaders.

maybe not so much in russia.

time will tell.

i cant see vlad backing down to the intellectual elite or the virtuous scalds .
he doesnt seem the type

The Russian Revolution was inaugurated with the Conscript Revolution in 2022- 2044. This first revolt focused in and around Saint Petersburg. After major military losses during the war, the Russian Army had begun to mutiny. Army leaders and high ranking officials were convinced that if Tsar Vlad for Life abdicated, the domestic unrest would subside. Everyone agreed and he stepped down, ushering in a new government led by the Russian Duma (parliament) which became the Russian Dumber. This government was dominated by the interests of prominent capitalists, as well as the Russian nobility and aristocracy.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:25pm:

i cant see vlad backing down to the intellectual elite or the virtuous scalds . he doesnt seem the type

He'll back down when he's knocked down.

Russia, however, will remain an unstable schizophrenic and sociopathic state for some time.

Probably the first major cracks of improvement will be after the southern republics break ties with Russia.

The fact that Navalny is still alive makes me wonder if the senior leadership in Russia think they will be needing him to stabilise the country when Putin is deposed.

chimera wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:

The Russian Revolution was inaugurated with the Conscript Revolution in 2022- 2044. This first revolt focused in and around Saint Petersburg. After major military losses during the war, the Russian Army had begun to mutiny. Army leaders and high ranking officials were convinced that if Tsar Vlad for Life abdicated, the domestic unrest would subside. Everyone agreed and he stepped down, ushering in a new government led by the Russian Duma (parliament) which became the Russian Dumber. This government was dominated by the interests of prominent capitalists, as well as the Russian nobility and aristocracy.

vlad should fall on his sword , you reckon, chimera.

thats possible

unlikely

but possible

probably more likely if inferior beta males stop scalding him  :D :D :D :D

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 6:25pm: i cant see vlad backing down to the intellectual elite or the virtuous scalds . he doesnt seem the type He'll back down when he's knocked down. Russia, however, will remain an unstable schizophrenic and sociopathic state for some time. Probably the first major cracks of improvement will be after the southern republics break ties with Russia. The fact that Navalny is still alive makes me wonder if the senior leadership in Russia think they will be needing him to stabilise the country when Putin is deposed.

meister,

do you think the iranians are just going to hand over the country to the masses.
because their leader is so old and sick , he makes biden look like an athlete.

what info do you have that vlad will hand over anything?

he put all the top people in their roles. in his mind, they owe him.
you call him a pyschopath and then in the next breath expect him to act like jesus brought before pilate.

which one is it my friend

Yeah I know. He phoned me this morning, very upset almost weeping. 'What more can I do?' he quavered tremulously. I suggested a vodka whisky milkshake, lie down and retire for the day. He said he just might.
Dunno.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:42pm:

chimera wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm: The Russian Revolution was inaugurated with the Conscript Revolution in 2022- 2044. This first revolt focused in and around Saint Petersburg. After major military losses during the war, the Russian Army had begun to mutiny. Army leaders and high ranking officials were convinced that if Tsar Vlad for Life abdicated, the domestic unrest would subside. Everyone agreed and he stepped down, ushering in a new government led by the Russian Duma (parliament) which became the Russian Dumber. This government was dominated by the interests of prominent capitalists, as well as the Russian nobility and aristocracy. vlad should fall on his sword , you reckon, chimera. thats possible unlikely but possible probably more likely if inferior beta males stop scalding him

Or those like you stop blowing him.

Do you swallow?

You really do strike me as someone who would swallow everything Trump and Putin offers you.

I've never seen a better example of a beta cuck than you.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 6:42pm: chimera wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm: The Russian Revolution was inaugurated with the Conscript Revolution in 2022- 2044. This first revolt focused in and around Saint Petersburg. After major military losses during the war, the Russian Army had begun to mutiny. Army leaders and high ranking officials were convinced that if Tsar Vlad for Life abdicated, the domestic unrest would subside. Everyone agreed and he stepped down, ushering in a new government led by the Russian Duma (parliament) which became the Russian Dumber. This government was dominated by the interests of prominent capitalists, as well as the Russian nobility and aristocracy. vlad should fall on his sword , you reckon, chimera. thats possible unlikely but possible probably more likely if inferior beta males stop scalding him  Or those like you stop blowing him. Do you swallow? You really do strike me as someone who would swallow everything Trump and Putin offers you. I've never seen a better example of a beta cuck than you.

poor gweg has lived so much of his life online, he thinks his scalding is actually going to have an affect on future events.

he really should get out more.

he strikes me as out of touch with "real" people

cuck: a weak or servile man

e.g. aquascoot

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 6:41pm: aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 6:25pm: i cant see vlad backing down to the intellectual elite or the virtuous scalds . he doesnt seem the type He'll back down when he's knocked down. Russia, however, will remain an unstable schizophrenic and sociopathic state for some time. Probably the first major cracks of improvement will be after the southern republics break ties with Russia. The fact that Navalny is still alive makes me wonder if the senior leadership in Russia think they will be needing him to stabilise the country when Putin is deposed. meister, do you think the iranians are just going to hand over the country to the masses. because their leader is so old and sick , he makes biden look like an athlete. what info do you have that vlad will hand over anything? he put all the top people in their roles. in his mind, they owe him. you call him a pyschopath and then in the next breath expect him to act like jesus brought before pilate. which one is it my friend

Not sure where you got all that from.

I said Putin is destined to be deposed.

The southern republics are Khazakstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Dagestan - all currently under the Russian sphere of influence, but this war is turning them away from Russia.

Navalny is the imprisoned anti-Putin opposition leader who was poisoned while in exile by Putin but survived yet chose to return to Russia - and he's still alive. Putin has no trouble murdering critics, why is Navalny still alive?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:56pm:

why?

Hillary and Donald aren't in jail. Joe the..the..and Bid isn't in a nursing home.
WHY?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 7:00pm:

Well, it's not all that's left. https://i.pinimg.com/222x/cb/70/db/cb70db19d83e7a75688a98a00eb5186a.jpg (Tell me that's not the creepiest thing you've ever seen)

C'mon mate... fair's fair.  After all, she was 12 at the time.
And like any caring father, he was prolly just checking she
was wearing panties.   As any dad would do.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 6:54pm:

cuck: a weak or servile man e.g. aquascoot

Aqua leaps out of bed in the morning with a purpose -
to make the world a better place.

Only because Donald told him to.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2022 at 8:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:14am: well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::) Germany (and the EU) is decommitting from reliance on Russian energy, as Russia's instability will survive Putin. Trump publicly announced that the US would exit Afghanistan, thereby giving US diplomats no leverage over the Taliban - All the Taliban had to do was hold fast and wait. If Putin uses a nuclear weapon, NATO will act. Putin will be lucky if he dies of natural causes.

Two idiots attempting to discuss "logic"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Marla wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 3:33am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:23am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:14am: well he couldnt be any worse at it then the leftie intellectual elite. merkel closed down all the fossil fuel energy and now germans get to have cold showers and beg russia for gas. biden pussied out of afghanistan which was the signal putin was waiting for that president beta male has no inner strength. putin knows that even if he dropped a nuke on ukraine, president metamucil will probably just make an angry tweet. putin has completely outfoxed the leftie intellectuals. they thought that the ideology of greta thunberg could prevail and putin saw that people need fuel and food (which is what ukraine has). now , 350 million people may well starve well done leftie intellectual elite. your utopian vision is being fulfilled  ::) ::) ::) Germany (and the EU) is decommitting from reliance on Russian energy, as Russia's instability will survive Putin. Trump publicly announced that the US would exit Afghanistan, thereby giving US diplomats no leverage over the Taliban - All the Taliban had to do was hold fast and wait. If Putin uses a nuclear weapon, NATO will act. Putin will be lucky if he dies of natural causes. Two idiots attempting to discuss "logic"

Wahl, who say a waht trash yank caint do two cousins, rub her five teets wit one haind and type at the same tahm?

Thets yer waht trash yank multai taskin' raht thur.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 6:03am:

Wahl, who say a waht trash yank caint do two cousins, rub her five teets wit one haind and type at the same tahm? Thets yer waht trash yank multai taskin' raht thur.

There he goes again, speaking in short bus.

Marla wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 7:54am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 6:03am: Wahl, who say a waht trash yank caint do two cousins, rub her five teets wit one haind and type at the same tahm? Thets yer waht trash yank multai taskin' raht thur. There he goes again, speaking in short bus.

Yep. Alls we gots ta do is think in white-trash yank.

Trump's negotiating skills do not exceed that of the average used-car salesman.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:01am:

Alls we gots ta do is think in white-trash yank.

Sorry, I don't speak short bus

Marla wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:01am: Alls we gots ta do is think in white-trash yank. Sorry, I don't speak short bus

Aww, doughn' be all bashful-lahk. Waht-trash is yur firss lahngidge.

issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:12am:

Trump's negotiating skills do not exceed that of the average used-car salesman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnbTem-8q8U

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:17am:

Aww, doughn' be all bashful-lahk. Waht-trash is yur firss lahngidge.

HHhmm..sounds like another F A T Bogan kangaroo rooter who drinks Fosters all day.

issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:12am:

Trump's negotiating skills do not exceed that of the average used-car salesman.

https://youtu.be/zqHZWdFVyyQ

Marla wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:27am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:17am: Aww, doughn' be all bashful-lahk. Waht-trash is yur firss lahngidge. HHhmm..sounds like another F A T Bogan kangaroo rooter who drinks Fosters all day.

Yeah-nah.

It's a very honorable gesture from President Trump ... and no one else seems interested in brokering peace between Ukraine and Russia. The United Nations should be wholeheartedly in favor of any suggestion to stop the fighting, and encourage Trump to talk to the warring leaders to bring about an early peaceful settlement

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:50am:

It's a very honorable gesture from President Trump ...

dude, please just shut the f - k up

Marla wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 7:54am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 6:03am: Wahl, who say a waht trash yank caint do two cousins, rub her five teets wit one haind and type at the same tahm? Thets yer waht trash yank multai taskin' raht thur. There he goes again, speaking in short bus.

What the hell are you babbling about?

We're all fed up with world wars starting in Europe
over their petty territorial disputes.

Trump is honourable and tried to make real, sensible wars with Canada and Mexico. He will do it if he gets the firepower from Nancy.

Quote:

Trump to negotiate peace in Ukraine.

The only thing that Trump would want to negotiate would be a piece for himself.

Marla wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:53am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am: It's a very honorable gesture from President Trump ... dude, please just shut the f - k up

Why do you want the war to continue? How many people must die before you'd say "Enough"?

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 9:20am:

Marla wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:53am: Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am: It's a very honorable gesture from President Trump ... dude, please just shut the f - k up Why do you want the war to continue? How many people must die before you'd say "Enough"?

Sending one crazy to deal with another crazy can only make it worse.

Trump could only do more damage, there is little merit in making it worse just to reinforce an egomaniacs self perception.

Trumps pro Russia Pro Putin history would make him an unacceptable option.

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 9:20am:

Why do you want the war to continue? How many people must die before you'd say "Enough"?

The war is unstoppable now.

It's fueling itself on patriotism and vengeance, on the Ukrainian side, that can't be dialled down by diplomacy. Hundreds of thousands have had to flee their country to safety and have since learned that, of those who stayed, many were raped, tortured and murdered.

The Russians are facing the prospect of global humiliation on a scale not seen since its exit from WW1. Hundreds of thousands have fled across the borders from Russia to avoid being involved in a neo-Tsarist military adventure - another parallel with WW1.

Putin should consider the fate of Tsar Nicholas II.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/109/130/810/small/cca3df01ecd9752d.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 9:43am:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/109/130/810/small/cca3df01ecd9752d.jpg

Careful. Your Bobby persona sure is homoerotic.

He's showing his man in negotiating mode.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 9:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 9:43am: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/109/130/810/small/cca3df01ecd9752d.jpg Careful. Your Bobby persona sure is homoerotic.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/109/797/219/small/350d873dd8f98ab2.jpg

chimera wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 9:51am:

He's showing his man in negotiating mode.

No he is just casting a standard lure into the pond.

Bobby, Rambo, Putin and Man go way back.

Dnarever wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 9:30am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 9:20am: Marla wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:53am: Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am: It's a very honorable gesture from President Trump ... dude, please just shut the f - k up Why do you want the war to continue? How many people must die before you'd say "Enough"? Sending one crazy to deal with another crazy can only make it worse. Trump could only do more damage, there is little merit in making it worse just to reinforce an egomaniacs self perception. Trumps pro Russia Pro Putin history would make him an unacceptable option.

Well, why do you want the war to continue?

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 12:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 9:30am: Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 9:20am: Marla wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:53am: Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am: It's a very honorable gesture from President Trump ... dude, please just shut the f - k up Why do you want the war to continue? How many people must die before you'd say "Enough"? Sending one crazy to deal with another crazy can only make it worse. Trump could only do more damage, there is little merit in making it worse just to reinforce an egomaniacs self perception. Trumps pro Russia Pro Putin history would make him an unacceptable option. Well, why do you want the war to continue?

Trump doesn't have the ability to negotiate an end to the war.

FFS, he doesn't even have the ability to drink a glass of water with one hand.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 9:39am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 9:20am: Why do you want the war to continue? How many people must die before you'd say "Enough"? The war is unstoppable now. It's fueling itself on patriotism and vengeance, on the Ukrainian side, that can't be dialled down by diplomacy. Hundreds of thousands have had to flee their country to safety and have since learned that, of those who stayed, many were raped, tortured and murdered. The Russians are facing the prospect of global humiliation on a scale not seen since its exit from WW1. Hundreds of thousands have fled across the borders from Russia to avoid being involved in a neo-Tsarist military adventure - another parallel with WW1. Putin should consider the fate of Tsar Nicholas II.

again meister , when someone with 6000 nukes is cornered, its probably wise to offer them an off ramp

Fair deal, give Hungary and Turkey to Putin. Zelensky builds a 30m. high statue to Putin with bare chest and jock strap in Donetsk. Sell the scrap metal and give to Russiki citizens and make them rich.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 1:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 9:39am: Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2022 at 9:20am: Why do you want the war to continue? How many people must die before you'd say "Enough"? The war is unstoppable now. It's fueling itself on patriotism and vengeance, on the Ukrainian side, that can't be dialled down by diplomacy. Hundreds of thousands have had to flee their country to safety and have since learned that, of those who stayed, many were raped, tortured and murdered. The Russians are facing the prospect of global humiliation on a scale not seen since its exit from WW1. Hundreds of thousands have fled across the borders from Russia to avoid being involved in a neo-Tsarist military adventure - another parallel with WW1. Putin should consider the fate of Tsar Nicholas II. again meister , when someone with 6000 nukes is cornered, its probably wise to offer them an off ramp

No.

Nuclear blackmail must be met with targeted destruction of key infrastructure.

Putin was trained by the KGB in last years of the USSR. The problem with such training is that it does not need to resort to subtlety. And so President Putin blundered into this war with no real world skills other than intimidation, if you can call that a skill. As text book bully, what does Putin do? He plays his last card first, by threaten to use nuclear weapons, if NATO intervenes. That was back in February, and each time he or Lavrov repeats the threat, it loses its shock value. "Yes, Vlad. We heard you the first time." So what does he do, this master or Russian bluster? He adds, "I am not bluffing." Gee! That changes everything, doesn't it.

All of this can only mean one thing. Putin lives in fear.

Even without nukes, the world is not going back to the pre-war status quo. As for India, they need to make some choices, because if they get into trouble with China, they will need friends, and they are not making any right now.

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wombatwoody wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 5:51am:

.

Yeah, who cares about democracy in Ukraine or Taiwan, and while we are at it, why did the USA bother with the D Day landings and the Marshall Plan. Shoulda left the damn place to the Nazis.

issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 11:11pm:

As for India, they need to make some choices, because if they get into trouble with China, they will need friends, and they are not making any right now.

Since independence, India has followed the Nehru doctrine of the middle way - nonaligned and effectively neutral.

Russia and China will always be neighbours to India and so its security lies in minimising tensions between itself and those two.

On the other hand, India is a democracy and sees the US as its democratic model for socio-political development - The US with Indian characteristics?

What to do? What to do?