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Message started by AiA on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am

Title: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by AiA on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-fY2WjM_8k&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Yadda on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:24am
OP, is just another HIT JOB, on DONALD TRUMP

And yes, Donald Trump is still complaining about the 'results' of the 2020 presidential election.




There cannot be a 'Democratic' process, if the Democratic process is being run/overseen by Stalinist's.
[proof?....just ask the people of modern day Russia, if they have confidence in how the 'Democratic' election process in Russia today, are conducted by the Putin regime officials? ]


IN DONALD TRUMPS CASE....
Steele Dossier [also known as the Trump–Russia dossier, being false Trump/Russia collusion 'evidence'] was a Clinton dirty tricks dept rouse. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Ballot Stuffing [in favour of Biden] by corrupt election officials in the 2020 presidential election. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Hunter Biden Laptop [Biden family corruption exposed]. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."


If there is a corrupt system of oversight, AND CORRUPT PROCESSES [entrenched in any governance system],
why would a nation [subject to such corrupted structures of authority], expect to see integrity in 1/ its government and 2/ in those authorities that are regulated by that ['flawed'] government ?



.


FACT
In 2022, [the tiny island of] Singapore, which was once a colony of England, is today richer than England.

How come ?    i.e.   What was    the CAUSE    of the success and prosperity of Singapore [as a whole society] ?


Africa is Not Poor Because of Colonization
11 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w



.



IF WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION,
WE WILL FIND THE PRINCIPLES OF 'RIGHT' THINKING, OVERLAPPING, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN.


------ >


Quote:

"The proper way to study disease is to study health and every influence favorable or not to its continuance...

That I have discovered the true cause of disease cannot be successfully disputed."

- J. H. Tilden





Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2022 at 10:03am

AiA wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore


The only people interested in the bloated old fool now are his cult members.

Even right-wing extremist "news" services have had enough of him.

I'd still like to see him run in 2024 though - watching him lose again would be thoroughly entertaining.



Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 9th, 2022 at 11:50am

Yadda wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:24am:
OP, is just another HIT JOB, on DONALD TRUMP

And yes, Donald Trump is still complaining about the 'results' of the 2020 presidential election.




There cannot be a 'Democratic' process, if the Democratic process is being run/overseen by Stalinist's.
[proof?....just ask the people of modern day Russia, if they have confidence in how the 'Democratic' election process in Russia today, are conducted by the Putin regime officials? ]


IN DONALD TRUMPS CASE....
Steele Dossier [also known as the Trump–Russia dossier, being false Trump/Russia collusion 'evidence'] was a Clinton dirty tricks dept rouse. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Ballot Stuffing [in favour of Biden] by corrupt election officials in the 2020 presidential election. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Hunter Biden Laptop [Biden family corruption exposed]. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."


If there is a corrupt system of oversight, AND CORRUPT PROCESSES [entrenched in any governance system],
why would a nation [subject to such corrupted structures of authority], expect to see integrity in 1/ its government and 2/ in those authorities that are regulated by that ['flawed'] government ?



.


FACT
In 2022, [the tiny island of] Singapore, which was once a colony of England, is today richer than England.

How come ?    i.e.   What was    the CAUSE    of the success and prosperity of Singapore [as a whole society] ?


Africa is Not Poor Because of Colonization
11 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w



.



IF WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION,
WE WILL FIND THE PRINCIPLES OF 'RIGHT' THINKING, OVERLAPPING, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN.


------ >


Quote:

"The proper way to study disease is to study health and every influence favorable or not to its continuance...

That I have discovered the true cause of disease cannot be successfully disputed."

- J. H. Tilden


The Steele Dossier was contracted by the RNC, Y, after John McCain raised the alarm.

"Ballot stuffing" is what happens when ballots are transported. It happens in every erection everywhere. The "MSM" don't get to determine anything.

Hunter Biden is a private citizen with a laptop. I'm not sure what you're trying to suggest about his family.

Singapore is not richer than England. It has a total GDP of 340 bil. The UK has 2.74 tril.

The colonisation of Africa is a different topic.

Read your Bible. The truth shall set you free, no?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 12:47pm
Trump will never implode on my TV - I have banned him.


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 12:49pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:24am:
OP, is just another HIT JOB, on DONALD TRUMP

And yes, Donald Trump is still complaining about the 'results' of the 2020 presidential election.


There cannot be a 'Democratic' process, if the Democratic process is being run/overseen by Stalinist's.
[proof?....just ask the people of modern day Russia, if they have confidence in how the 'Democratic' election process in Russia today, are conducted by the Putin regime officials? ]


IN DONALD TRUMPS CASE....
Steele Dossier [also known as the Trump–Russia dossier, being false Trump/Russia collusion 'evidence'] was a Clinton dirty tricks dept rouse. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Ballot Stuffing [in favour of Biden] by corrupt election officials in the 2020 presidential election. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Hunter Biden Laptop [Biden family corruption exposed]. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."


If there is a corrupt system of oversight, AND CORRUPT PROCESSES [entrenched in any governance system],
why would a nation [subject to such corrupted structures of authority], expect to see integrity in 1/ its government and 2/ in those authorities that are regulated by that ['flawed'] government ?



.


FACT
In 2022, [the tiny island of] Singapore, which was once a colony of England, is today richer than England.

How come ?    i.e.   What was    the CAUSE    of the success and prosperity of Singapore [as a whole society] ?


Africa is Not Poor Because of Colonization
11 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w



.



IF WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION,
WE WILL FIND THE PRINCIPLES OF 'RIGHT' THINKING, OVERLAPPING, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN.


------ >


Quote:

"The proper way to study disease is to study health and every influence favorable or not to its continuance...

That I have discovered the true cause of disease cannot be successfully disputed."

- J. H. Tilden


In other words What about - What About, What about, What About, What about ................




Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Bias_2012 on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:03pm

AiA wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-fY2WjM_8k&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow


That's an anti Trump video, it's not impartial or unbiased. You blokes are disappointing to say the least. Trump is more popular than ever



Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:03pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 12:49pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:24am:
OP, is just another HIT JOB, on DONALD TRUMP

And yes, Donald Trump is still complaining about the 'results' of the 2020 presidential election.


There cannot be a 'Democratic' process, if the Democratic process is being run/overseen by Stalinist's.
[proof?....just ask the people of modern day Russia, if they have confidence in how the 'Democratic' election process in Russia today, are conducted by the Putin regime officials? ]


IN DONALD TRUMPS CASE....
Steele Dossier [also known as the Trump–Russia dossier, being false Trump/Russia collusion 'evidence'] was a Clinton dirty tricks dept rouse. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Ballot Stuffing [in favour of Biden] by corrupt election officials in the 2020 presidential election. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."

Hunter Biden Laptop [Biden family corruption exposed]. - MSM determination on the matter, "Nothing to see here."


If there is a corrupt system of oversight, AND CORRUPT PROCESSES [entrenched in any governance system],
why would a nation [subject to such corrupted structures of authority], expect to see integrity in 1/ its government and 2/ in those authorities that are regulated by that ['flawed'] government ?



.


FACT
In 2022, [the tiny island of] Singapore, which was once a colony of England, is today richer than England.

How come ?    i.e.   What was    the CAUSE    of the success and prosperity of Singapore [as a whole society] ?


Africa is Not Poor Because of Colonization
11 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w



.



IF WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION,
WE WILL FIND THE PRINCIPLES OF 'RIGHT' THINKING, OVERLAPPING, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN.


------ >


Quote:

"The proper way to study disease is to study health and every influence favorable or not to its continuance...

That I have discovered the true cause of disease cannot be successfully disputed."

- J. H. Tilden


In other words What about - What About, What about, What About, What about ................


Yep, it's all they have.

"Other people do stuff, therefore, Trump should be able to break the law."


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by thegreatdivide on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:23pm
Trump did win c. 75 million votes , cf Biden's c.78 million. It's too close for comfort.

So a confused, incompetent electorate has driven Trumpy mad....

We are all mad..what's with this roughly 50-50 split in democratic elections?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:36pm

As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%.   [FiveThirtyEight]


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:38pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:23pm:
Trump did win c. 75 million votes , cf Biden's c.78 million. It's too close for comfort.

So a confused, incompetent electorate has driven Trumpy mad....

We are all mad..what's with this roughly 50-50 split in democratic elections?


We call it the two-party system, Great. It's HeGeLiAn. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

You people have a one-party system. You have a dictatorship of the proletariat. That's pseuo-MaRxIsT, or what we call state CaPiTaLiSt.

Dear Leader only got those votes by crashing one of two parties, the GOP, or Grand Old Party.

Sleepy Joe Biden's in the Dems. They's called DeMoCrAtS. They compete with the faction that's taken over the GOP, known as MAGA, short for Making America Great Again.

They're a group of white supremacist neo-Nazis who want to destroy the two-party system and make America like Russia (Great Again). Their Dear Leader got busted ordering an insurrection to overturn an elected prez. He also plotted a military coup, but that never went anywhere. The generals hate him, you see, because he called soldiers chumps and dead soldiers losers.

As you can see, their Dear Leader is nothing like your Dear Leader, apart from the one-party thing.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:45pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:03pm:

AiA wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-fY2WjM_8k&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow


That's an anti Trump video, it's not impartial or unbiased. You blokes are disappointing to say the least. Trump is more popular than ever



Quote:
That's an anti Trump


The twice impeached insurrectionist thief has a Pro side argument ? Really ?  NO ?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:50pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:23pm:
Trump did win c. 75 million votes , cf Biden's c.78 million. It's too close for comfort.

So a confused, incompetent electorate has driven Trumpy mad....

We are all mad..what's with this roughly 51-49 split in democratic elections?


Trump did Lose  74 million votes ,  Biden's Win 81 million.

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:55pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:03pm:

AiA wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore


That's an anti Trump video, it's not impartial or unbiased. You blokes are disappointing to say the least. Trump is more popular than ever


Only with his hardcore cult members.

He was never popular among sane, reasonable Americans and his numbers are continuing to go down.

I'm sure you'd agree that Hillary Clinton was a very unpopular candidate in 2016.

But guess what?  She beat Trump in the popular poll by more than 3,000,000 votes.

Then Sleepy Joe comes along, and he was even less popular than Hillary.

And guess what?  He beat Trump by more than 7,000,000 votes.

But that was yesterday - let's look at today:

"As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%."


"More popular than ever", you say?   ;)

If he runs in 2024 - and I certainly hope he does - he'll lose by more than 10,000,000 votes this time.


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by thegreatdivide on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:23pm:
Trump did win c. 75 million votes , cf Biden's c.78 million. It's too close for comfort.

So a confused, incompetent electorate has driven Trumpy mad....

We are all mad..what's with this roughly 50-50 split in democratic elections?


We call it the two-party system, Great. It's HeGeLiAn. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.


In reality, the blind leading the blind; while secretive, elitist  central bankers laugh all the way to the bank (Lowe won't suffer much from his confused  interest rate gambit...)


Quote:
You people have a one-party system. You have a dictatorship of the proletariat. That's pseuo-MaRxIsT, or what we call state CaPiTaLiSt.


Note: I have outed myself previously ....I'm ozzy (though not ocker...) 

But a consensus one party meritocracy might  have some advantages over the confused adversarial rabble aka democracy...


Quote:
Dear Leader only got to where he is by crashing one of two parties, the GOP, or Great Old Party.


Yes, in the blind-self-interestedrabble leading the blind-self-interested oppositional rabble, in the US. .


Quote:
Sleepy Joe Biden's in the Dems. They's called DeMoCrAtS. They compete with the faction that's taken over the GOP, known as MAGA, short for Making America Great Again.

They're a group of white supremacist neo-Nazis who want to destroy the two-party system and make America like Russia (Great Again). Their Dear Leader got busted ordering an insurrection to overturn an elected prez. He also plotted a military coup, but that never went anywhere. The generals hate him, you see, because he called soldiers chumps and dead soldiers losers.

As you can see, their Dear Leader is nothing like your Dear Leader, apart from the one-party thing.

Thoughts?


Trump talks about MAGA, but ignores disadvantage in the ghettos.

A stated goal of common prosperity is a good basis for government.

If Xi can eliminate  corruption, as Chinese living standards rise, he may well put the democracies to shame.

The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:30pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm:
The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...


He lost the popular vote in 2016, lost it by millions more in 2020, and his popularity has steadily gone down ever since.

Moreover, during his short stay in the White House he lost the House and the Senate.

How is he in with a chance?


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by thegreatdivide on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm:
The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...


He lost the popular vote in 2016, lost it by millions more in 2020, and his popularity has steadily gone down ever since.

Moreover, during his short stay in the White House he lost the House and the Senate.

How is he in with a chance?


The 'stolen election' narrative is still very strong among Repubs in the US; the fact that Trump still hasn't ruled out running again is telling in itself.

Meanwhile US political hyperpartisanship is as divisive as ever.

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:43pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm:
The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...


He lost the popular vote in 2016, lost it by millions more in 2020, and his popularity has steadily gone down ever since.

Moreover, during his short stay in the White House he lost the House and the Senate.

How is he in with a chance?


The 'stolen election' narrative is still very strong among Repubs in the US; the fact that Trump still hasn't ruled out running again is telling in itself.



I hope he does.

I can't wait to see him lose again.


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 9th, 2022 at 3:10pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:03pm:

AiA wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-fY2WjM_8k&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow


That's an anti Trump video, it's not impartial or unbiased. You blokes are disappointing to say the least. Trump is more popular than ever

Not so... see my earlier post:


Quote:
As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%.   [FiveThirtyEight]

This disproves your claim that Trump is "more popular" than ever.
And his popularity continues to fall—for more than obvious reasons.

And what's surprising is that half of US electors think he should
be charged
over the 6 January insurrection.




With an apparent lack of GOP support (?) he may as well give up on a 2024 win right now.





Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:00pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm:
The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...


He lost the popular vote in 2016, lost it by millions more in 2020, and his popularity has steadily gone down ever since.

Moreover, during his short stay in the White House he lost the House and the Senate.

How is he in with a chance?


The 'stolen election' narrative is still very strong among Repubs in the US; the fact that Trump still hasn't ruled out running again is telling in itself.

Meanwhile US political hyperpartisanship is as divisive as ever.


The two options I see most prevalent is that:

1) Trump will be forced to run in an attempt to swat the charges against him.

2) Trump will be offered a deal to not run in exchange for not going to prison forever X 10.

The US really do not want to put their disgraced criminal x president in prison if they can avoid it.

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:05pm

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:03pm:

AiA wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-fY2WjM_8k&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow


That's an anti Trump video, it's not impartial or unbiased. You blokes are disappointing to say the least. Trump is more popular than ever

Not so... see my earlier post:


Quote:
As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%.   [FiveThirtyEight]

This disproves your claim that Trump is "more popular" than ever.
And his popularity continues to fall—for more than obvious reasons.

And what's surprising is that half of US electors think he should
be charged
over the 6 January insurrection.




With an apparent lack of GOP support (?) he may as well give up on a 2024 win right now.



Quote:
be charged over the 6 January insurrection.


Then there are about 10 other charges to be answered.

I would expect the numbers as bad or worse with the stolen documents, this is on open and shut case.

Mr Trump did you have the documents - "Yes" - "Guilty"

Mr Trump, would you prefer black and white stripes or plain Orange ?

We have matching colours for you children.




Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm:
The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...


He lost the popular vote in 2016, lost it by millions more in 2020, and his popularity has steadily gone down ever since.

Moreover, during his short stay in the White House he lost the House and the Senate.

How is he in with a chance?


The 'stolen election' narrative is still very strong among Repubs in the US; the fact that Trump still hasn't ruled out running again is telling in itself.



I hope he does.

I can't wait to see him lose again.


How good would it be to see Biden visiting a prison for the First presidential debate. With both facing off on the opposite sides of a plexiglass visitors screen.

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Aussie on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:13pm

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:36pm:

As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%.   [FiveThirtyEight]


Can I have the Link for that please?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:20pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:13pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:36pm:

As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%.   [FiveThirtyEight]


Can I have the Link for that please?


One version.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm:
The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...


He lost the popular vote in 2016, lost it by millions more in 2020, and his popularity has steadily gone down ever since.

Moreover, during his short stay in the White House he lost the House and the Senate.

How is he in with a chance?


The 'stolen election' narrative is still very strong among Repubs in the US; the fact that Trump still hasn't ruled out running again is telling in itself.



I hope he does.

I can't wait to see him lose again.


How good would it be to see Biden visiting a prison for the First presidential debate. With both facing off on the opposite sides of a plexiglass visitors screen.


With Bubba standing behind Trump, looking all impatient.


Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:03pm:

AiA wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Nobody wants to see Donald on American TV anymore


That's an anti Trump video, it's not impartial or unbiased. You blokes are disappointing to say the least. Trump is more popular than ever


Only with his hardcore cult members.

He was never popular among sane, reasonable Americans and his numbers are continuing to go down.

I'm sure you'd agree that Hillary Clinton was a very unpopular candidate in 2016.

But guess what?  She beat Trump in the popular poll by more than 3,000,000 votes.

Then Sleepy Joe comes along, and he was even less popular than Hillary.

And guess what?  He beat Trump by more than 7,000,000 votes.

But that was yesterday - let's look at today:

"As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%."


"More popular than ever", you say?   ;)

If he runs in 2024 - and I certainly hope he does - he'll lose by more than 10,000,000 votes this time.


I know, Greggery, but those people don't count. We're talking about the Real Americans.

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Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:46pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:38pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:23pm:
Trump did win c. 75 million votes , cf Biden's c.78 million. It's too close for comfort.

So a confused, incompetent electorate has driven Trumpy mad....

We are all mad..what's with this roughly 50-50 split in democratic elections?


We call it the two-party system, Great. It's HeGeLiAn. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.


In reality, the blind leading the blind; while secretive, elitist  central bankers laugh all the way to the bank (Lowe won't suffer much from his confused  interest rate gambit...)


Quote:
You people have a one-party system. You have a dictatorship of the proletariat. That's pseuo-MaRxIsT, or what we call state CaPiTaLiSt.


Note: I have outed myself previously ....I'm ozzy (though not ocker...) 

But a consensus one party meritocracy might  have some advantages over the confused adversarial rabble aka democracy...

[quote]Dear Leader only got to where he is by crashing one of two parties, the GOP, or Great Old Party.


Yes, in the blind-self-interestedrabble leading the blind-self-interested oppositional rabble, in the US. .


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Sleepy Joe Biden's in the Dems. They's called DeMoCrAtS. They compete with the faction that's taken over the GOP, known as MAGA, short for Making America Great Again.

They're a group of white supremacist neo-Nazis who want to destroy the two-party system and make America like Russia (Great Again). Their Dear Leader got busted ordering an insurrection to overturn an elected prez. He also plotted a military coup, but that never went anywhere. The generals hate him, you see, because he called soldiers chumps and dead soldiers losers.

As you can see, their Dear Leader is nothing like your Dear Leader, apart from the one-party thing.

Thoughts?


Trump talks about MAGA, but ignores disadvantage in the ghettos.

A stated goal of common prosperity is a good basis for government.

If Xi can eliminate  corruption, as Chinese living standards rise, he may well put the democracies to shame.

The world is watching....meanwhile Trumpy is still in with a chance, in the US...where half the population are acccusing the other half of the population of being "a threat to the state"...

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Without a consensus two party duopoly, Great, Dear Leader would still be in.

Therein lies the benefits of what we modestly call DeMoCrAcY.

Chairman Xi cannot possibly eradicate corruption. A one-party monopoly guarantees it. If Sleepy Joe Biden, a complete cleanskin had a political monopoly, he'd have corruption too.

Corruption is not eradicated by benign dictators, dear, it's SyStEmIc.

Sure, you can have a bit of corruption in a duopoly like America, but the example of Donald J Trump shows us exactly what happens when would-be dictators misbehave.

Nixon is another example, and he was a bunny by comparison. Imagine, a few dirty tricks and a Watergate break in. Kid's stuff.

We now have the example of a Russian-backed foreign agent who blackmailed a foreign power to get dirt on a political rival's son, plotted a military coup, launched an attempted insurrection and stole over 11,000 government records that contain even more criminal evidence.

What would they do with such a politician in Chi-na?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by scope on Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:52pm
Lincoln Project
Rick doesnt hold back, says it like it is  ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vAxNjMyfc

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 9th, 2022 at 7:23pm

scope wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:52pm:
Lincoln Project
Rick doesnt hold back, says it like it is  ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vAxNjMyfc


I know, Scope, but can you say that? A few members here have been getting a tad miffed at the slurs on Mr Trump lately, it's so unfair.

Bobby's been posting BREAKING stories from 2016 on Hillary's emails. Yadda's been reminding us of "ballot stuffing" in the 2020 erection and complaining about deepest darkest Africa. JaSin's been getting offended about Blue Democrats or something, I'm not sure, but they're certainly not happy.

Do you think we should go a little easier on their Dear Leader? I recall seeing Rudy at the Four Seasons Landscaping carpark and feeling a little bit sad for them all. There he was, a former NY mayor and presidential candidate, ranting incoherently at a sniggering audience of journos, and he wasn't even getting paid.

No amount of Russian oligarch lobbying work is going to make up for that, and besides, with Trump gone, who's going to take his calls? 

The big fella was their only meal ticket. All they've got left is a rabble of fruitloops who can't agree on anything besides banning face masks,  reintroducing segregation and encouraging mass shootings. Theyre not even inspired by the Wall anymore, it's depressing.

Is there anything we could do to cheer them up? Should we let Dear Leade off the hook, maybe?

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by John Smith on Sep 9th, 2022 at 7:31pm

scope wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:52pm:
Lincoln Project
Rick doesnt hold back, says it like it is  ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vAxNjMyfc



I don't know if it's just me, but I get the impression that he doesn't like Donald? :D :D :D

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 9th, 2022 at 8:50pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 4:13pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 1:36pm:

As of 8 September, Trump's favourability rating has fallen
by another 14.7 points. It's now only 40.3% versus his
unfavourability rating of 54.9%.   [FiveThirtyEight]

Can I have the Link for that please?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/



Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:21pm

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Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV


I'm guessing that the visualisation of orange gunk splattered everywhere was in reality an underwhelming sight.

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by thegreatdivide on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:52pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Without a consensus two party duopoly, Great, Dear Leader would still be in.

Therein lies the benefits of what we modestly call DeMoCrAcY.


Jan 6th Capitol riots?


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Chairman Xi cannot possibly eradicate corruption.


But he can...at least  as much as any government can eradicate corruption.



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A one-party monopoly guarantees it. If Sleepy Joe Biden, a complete cleanskin had a political monopoly, he'd have corruption too.


He has it now; half his Dems are on the take - corruption is systemic in adverarial democracies as well. 


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Corruption is not eradicated by benign dictators, dear, it's SyStEmIc.


Simplistic: given the instinctive self interest of men, all systems  are potentially corrupt.


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Sure, you can have a bit of corruption in a duopoly like America, but the example of Donald J Trump shows us exactly what happens when would-be dictators misbehave.


As I said, Xi's party is driven by the goal of common  prosperity, cf Trump's self-interested MAGA without regard to entrenched disadvantage in the US. 


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We now have the example of a Russian-backed foreign agent who blackmailed a foreign power to get dirt on a political rival's son, plotted a military coup, launched an attempted insurrection and stole over 11,000 government records that contain even more criminal evidence.

What would they do with such a politician in Chi-na?


Imprison him.

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:54pm

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given the instinctive self interest of men, all systems  are potentially corrupt.


Chi-na?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:57pm

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Imprison him.


Deng, dear, got off scott-free.

You?

Title: Re: Trump IMPLODES on Indian TV
Post by thegreatdivide on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:58pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

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given the instinctive self interest of men, all systems  are potentially corrupt.


Chi-na?


Of course. But as common prosperity is gained in any nation, corruption is reduced.

Deng?  he was 4 decades ago; per capita GDP is 5 times higher now.

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