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Message started by Sir lastnail on Aug 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm

Title: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm
Check it out ! For those vaxed with the mRNA concoctions be prepared for your clock to stop at anytime. We told you not to take it but you wouldn't listen to us !

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/29798

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Lisa Jones on Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:26pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Check it out ! For those vaxed with the mRNA concoctions be prepared for your clock to stop at anytime. We told you not to take it but you wouldn't listen to us !

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/29798


Please don't show clips like that 🥺😔😩

I feel like throwing up now 🤢

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Yadda on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:32pm

OP.....

My browser settings won't load that TELEGRAM page.
....and, i'm not changing my browser settings.


Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:45pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:32pm:

OP.....

My browser settings won't load that TELEGRAM page.
....and, i'm not changing my browser settings.


load the telegram app on your PC or phone otherwise you miss out on some good stuff ;)

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by buzzanddidj on Aug 13th, 2022 at 6:09pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Check it out ! For those vaxed with the mRNA concoctions be prepared for your clock to stop at anytime. We told you not to take it but you wouldn't listen to us !

https://t.me/SGTnewsNitwits/29798



And who the bugger are SGT News Network ?



* yet another of Lady Loose Screw's "very reliable sources" ?



.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by buzzanddidj on Aug 13th, 2022 at 6:21pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:32pm:

OP.....

My browser settings won't load that TELEGRAM page.
....and, i'm not changing my browser settings.



I'm guessing he was banned on Youtube.com

AND Shitchute.com




Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Carl D on Aug 13th, 2022 at 7:49pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
load the telegram app on your PC or phone otherwise you miss out on some good stuff ;)


Hmm... let me think about that for a sec.

Nope... I'll pass, thanks.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:00pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Check it out ! For those vaxed with the mRNA concoctions be prepared for your clock to stop at anytime. We told you not to take it but you wouldn't listen to us !

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/29798


We don't get to see many videos or surgery being performed.

Nasty blood clots a real health hazard.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Lisa Jones on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:09pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:00pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Check it out ! For those vaxed with the mRNA concoctions be prepared for your clock to stop at anytime. We told you not to take it but you wouldn't listen to us !

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/29798


We don't get to see many videos or surgery being performed.

Nasty blood clots a real health hazard.


A lot of nasty blood in that. Now you know why I opted for 3 Caesareans under General Anaesthesia.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:50pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 6:09pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Check it out ! For those vaxed with the mRNA concoctions be prepared for your clock to stop at anytime. We told you not to take it but you wouldn't listen to us !

https://t.me/SGTnewsNitwits/29798



And who the bugger are SGT News Network ?



* yet another of Lady Loose Screw's "very reliable sources" ?



.


who gives a sh.t because you already half dead ;)

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:51pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
load the telegram app on your PC or phone otherwise you miss out on some good stuff ;)


Hmm... let me think about that for a sec.

Nope... I'll pass, thanks.


Send it to your fuct checkers carl for confirmation :D LOL





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Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John_Taverner on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:33am
If you prefer conspiracy theories, don't open these links:

https://journals.lww.com/jcardiovascularmedicine/Fulltext/2021/09000/Pericarditis_in_patients_with_COVID_19__a.4.aspx


Quote:
Pericarditis is a potential presentation of COVID-19. COVID-19 can have an atypical presentation with non-respiratory symptoms. Recognition of an atypical symptom of COVID-19 allows for early isolation and limits the spread.


https://casereports.bmj.com/content/13/8/e237617

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8789202/

There are very rare cases of pericarditis and myocarditis caused by vaccines. However, Myocarditis and pericarditis occur in the general population from a variety of causes. Not all cases that occur after vaccination are caused by the vaccine. Myocarditis and pericarditis can also be caused by COVID-19.

The vaccine related condition is usually mild, and more often found in younger people (mostly males) under 40.

One of my colleagues who was a super fit athlete at 66 years old, contracted pericarditis after a mild Covid infection (he tested positive for one day only). He had not been vaccinated. He bounced back quickly because of his good general health, but told me he was frustrated at suddenly having to take medications for the first time in his life.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Xavier on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:35am
World War Z

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Captain Caveman on Aug 14th, 2022 at 9:24am

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:33am:
If you prefer conspiracy theories, don't open these links:

https://journals.lww.com/jcardiovascularmedicine/Fulltext/2021/09000/Pericarditis_in_patients_with_COVID_19__a.4.aspx


Quote:
Pericarditis is a potential presentation of COVID-19. COVID-19 can have an atypical presentation with non-respiratory symptoms. Recognition of an atypical symptom of COVID-19 allows for early isolation and limits the spread.


https://casereports.bmj.com/content/13/8/e237617

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8789202/

There are very rare cases of pericarditis and myocarditis caused by vaccines. However, Myocarditis and pericarditis occur in the general population from a variety of causes. Not all cases that occur after vaccination are caused by the vaccine. Myocarditis and pericarditis can also be caused by COVID-19.

The vaccine related condition is usually mild, and more often found in younger people (mostly males) under 40.

One of my colleagues who was a super fit athlete at 66 years old, contracted pericarditis after a mild Covid infection (he tested positive for one day only). He had not been vaccinated. He bounced back quickly because of his good general health, but told me he was frustrated at suddenly having to take medications for the first time in his life.




;D ;D ;D
How convenient.

Do you have the figures for those that have not had the vaccine but have one of the above mentioned conditions?
Surely that must rate in the study that drew the conculsion you have come to post above?

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:30am

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:33am:
If you prefer conspiracy theories, don't open these links:

https://journals.lww.com/jcardiovascularmedicine/Fulltext/2021/09000/Pericarditis_in_patients_with_COVID_19__a.4.aspx


Quote:
Pericarditis is a potential presentation of COVID-19. COVID-19 can have an atypical presentation with non-respiratory symptoms. Recognition of an atypical symptom of COVID-19 allows for early isolation and limits the spread.


https://casereports.bmj.com/content/13/8/e237617

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8789202/

There are very rare cases of pericarditis and myocarditis caused by vaccines. However, Myocarditis and pericarditis occur in the general population from a variety of causes. Not all cases that occur after vaccination are caused by the vaccine. Myocarditis and pericarditis can also be caused by COVID-19.

The vaccine related condition is usually mild, and more often found in younger people (mostly males) under 40.

One of my colleagues who was a super fit athlete at 66 years old, contracted pericarditis after a mild Covid infection (he tested positive for one day only). He had not been vaccinated. He bounced back quickly because of his good general health, but told me he was frustrated at suddenly having to take medications for the first time in his life.


Thank you for bringing a little sanity into this thread John.  And of course, yes, we
should be very wary of any alleged clinical claims in those conspiracy-type videos
the OP has posted. 

That there is NO evidence even of what exactly these unnamed conspirators are
talking about, and/or showing makes the entire presentation on Telegram(!) suspect.

The whole thing can safely be ignored as total bullshit.        >:(



Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John Smith on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:45am

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 6:09pm:
* yet another of Lady Loose Screw's "very reliable sources"
?



very reliable

the dialogue in the video starts with

'this is something I got from somewhere'  :D :D :D

it doesn't get anymore reliable than that ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John_Taverner on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:48am

Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 9:24am:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:33am:
If you prefer conspiracy theories, don't open these links:

https://journals.lww.com/jcardiovascularmedicine/Fulltext/2021/09000/Pericarditis_in_patients_with_COVID_19__a.4.aspx


Quote:
Pericarditis is a potential presentation of COVID-19. COVID-19 can have an atypical presentation with non-respiratory symptoms. Recognition of an atypical symptom of COVID-19 allows for early isolation and limits the spread.


https://casereports.bmj.com/content/13/8/e237617

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8789202/

There are very rare cases of pericarditis and myocarditis caused by vaccines. However, Myocarditis and pericarditis occur in the general population from a variety of causes. Not all cases that occur after vaccination are caused by the vaccine. Myocarditis and pericarditis can also be caused by COVID-19.

The vaccine related condition is usually mild, and more often found in younger people (mostly males) under 40.

One of my colleagues who was a super fit athlete at 66 years old, contracted pericarditis after a mild Covid infection (he tested positive for one day only). He had not been vaccinated. He bounced back quickly because of his good general health, but told me he was frustrated at suddenly having to take medications for the first time in his life.




;D ;D ;D
How convenient.

Do you have the figures for those that have not had the vaccine but have one of the above mentioned conditions?
Surely that must rate in the study that drew the conculsion you have come to post above?


You have the links. If you stick to reliable medical sources, you'll find everything you need.

If you follow woo woo sites, you'll find everything you want to feed your conspiracy theory.

What's it to be?

Flat Earth?
Climate Denialism?
Moon Landing Conspiracy theories?
Covid vaccine disinformation?

All of these and more are to be found in your friendly Social Media links.  Easy to digest. No troubling factual information or technical jargon....

You've been caught hook line and sinker.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:51am

No it's not...  ludicrous, unevidenced assumption.      >:(

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John Smith on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:51am

Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 9:24am:
Do you have the figures for those that have not had the vaccine but have one of the above mentioned conditions?



Quote:

Myocarditis is an inflammatory process of the myocardium. It can present in the acute, subacute, or chronic phase with either focal or diffuse involvement of the myocardium. In the United States and other developed countries, viral infections are most frequently the cause of myocarditis. In developing countries, rheumatic carditis, Chagas disease, and complications related to advanced HIV/AIDS also provide important causes of myocarditis. Myocarditis is diagnosed based on clinical presentation. Diagnosis is classically confirmed by endomyocardial biopsy. This activity reviews the evaluation and management of myocarditis and highlights the role of the interprofessional team in managing patients with this condition.


..........

The incidence of myocarditis is approximately 1.5 million cases worldwide per year. Incidence is usually estimated between 10 to 20 cases per 100,000 persons. The overall incidence is unknown and probably underdiagnosed.  In the United States, the frequency of myocarditis is difficult to ascertain as many cases are subclinical. In community-based populations, the prevalence and outcomes of myocarditis are unknown as epidemiologic studies suggest that the majority of Coxsackie B virus infections, an important cause of myocarditis are subclinical, thus following a benign course.

According to some estimates, 1% to 5% of all patients with acute viral infections may involve the myocardium.

The majority of patients are young and healthy. Individuals who are susceptible include children, pregnant women, and those who are immunocompromised


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459259/

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:51am

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 9:24am:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:33am:
If you prefer conspiracy theories, don't open these links...

How convenient.

Do you have the figures for those that have not had the vaccine but have one of the above mentioned conditions?
Surely that must rate in the study that drew the conclusion you have come to post above?

Too easy...

In short:  Unvaccinated people who develop myocarditis or pericarditis after
contracting the COVID virus are four times more likely to do so than people
who develop either as a suspected causal factor of vaccination.

Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias
associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection


Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:58am

John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:45am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 6:09pm:
* yet another of Lady Loose Screw's "very reliable sources"



very reliable

the dialogue in the video starts with

'this is something I got from somewhere'  :D :D :D

it doesn't get anymore reliable than that ;D ;D ;D

Yes.  That had me chuckling too.  A couple of unnamed blokes rabbiting away
on some shonky webinar, with no accreditation or clinical qualifications who
in reality had no idea of what the images showed. 

Typical conspiracy theorists LOL.



Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:59am

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:30am:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:33am:
If you prefer conspiracy theories, don't open these links:

https://journals.lww.com/jcardiovascularmedicine/Fulltext/2021/09000/Pericarditis_in_patients_with_COVID_19__a.4.aspx


Quote:
Pericarditis is a potential presentation of COVID-19. COVID-19 can have an atypical presentation with non-respiratory symptoms. Recognition of an atypical symptom of COVID-19 allows for early isolation and limits the spread.


https://casereports.bmj.com/content/13/8/e237617

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8789202/

There are very rare cases of pericarditis and myocarditis caused by vaccines. However, Myocarditis and pericarditis occur in the general population from a variety of causes. Not all cases that occur after vaccination are caused by the vaccine. Myocarditis and pericarditis can also be caused by COVID-19.

The vaccine related condition is usually mild, and more often found in younger people (mostly males) under 40.

One of my colleagues who was a super fit athlete at 66 years old, contracted pericarditis after a mild Covid infection (he tested positive for one day only). He had not been vaccinated. He bounced back quickly because of his good general health, but told me he was frustrated at suddenly having to take medications for the first time in his life.


Thank you for bringing a little sanity into this thread John.  And of course, yes, we
should be very wary of any alleged clinical claims in those conspiracy-type videos
the OP has posted. 

That there is NO evidence even of what exactly these unnamed conspirators are
talking about, and/or showing makes the entire presentation on Telegram(!) suspect.

The whole thing can safely be ignored as total bullshit.        >:(


and so can your convid conspiracy ;)

Cardiovascular Effects of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine in Adolescents

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202208.0151/v1


Quote:
This study focuses on cardiovascular effects, particularly myocarditis and pericarditis events, after BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine injection in Thai adolescents. This prospective cohort study enrolled students from two schools aged 13–18 years who received the second dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. Data including demographics, symptoms, vital signs, ECG, echocardiography and cardiac enzymes were collected at baseline, Day 3, Day 7, and Day 14 (optional) using case record forms.We enrolled 314 participants; of these, 13 participants were lost to follow up, leaving 301 participants for analysis. The most common cardiovascular effects were tachycardia (7.64%), shortness of breath (6.64%), palpitation (4.32%), chest pain (4.32%), and hypertension (3.99%). Seven participants (2.33%) exhibited at least one elevated cardiac biomarker or positive lab assessments. Cardiovascular effects were found in 29.24% of patients, ranging from tachycardia, palpitation, and myopericarditis. Myopericarditis was confirmed in one patient after vaccination. Two patients had suspected pericarditis and four patients had suspected subclinical myocarditis. Conclusion: Cardiovascular effects in adolescents after BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccination included tachycardia, palpitation, and myocarditis. The clinical presentation of myopericarditis after vaccination was usually mild, with all cases fully recovering within 14 days. Hence, adolescents receiving mRNA vaccines should be monitored for side effects. Clinical Trial Registration: NCT05288231


Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John_Taverner on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:39pm
Not tachycardia? !

Tachycardia is the medical term for a heart rate over 100 beats a minute.

I get that whenever I see a needle!  The other symptoms you mention are mild. The key here is sub-clinical.

I also get moderate cardiovascular "effects" whenever I get a blood test.  They scare the beejeezus out of me. It stems from a botched malaria test when I was in Africa. At least I don't have to lie down to get a test nowadays.

You know what's wrong with that study? They didn't do a day -3 check. In other words a background reading (as opposed to baseline) for a condition that's common in the population. 

Sub-clinical = relating to or denoting a disease which is not severe enough to present definite or readily observable symptoms.

Also Google White Coat syndrome.

Has the Thai government discontinued vaccination of adolescents as a result of that study? Of course not.  The symptoms described are very mild.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:34pm

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:39pm:
Not tachycardia? !

Tachycardia is the medical term for a heart rate over 100 beats a minute.

I get that whenever I see a needle!  The other symptoms you mention are mild. The key here is sub-clinical.

I also get moderate cardiovascular "effects" whenever I get a blood test.  They scare the beejeezus out of me. It stems from a botched malaria test when I was in Africa. At least I don't have to lie down to get a test nowadays.

You know what's wrong with that study? They didn't do a day -3 check. In other words a background reading (as opposed to baseline) for a condition that's common in the population. 

Sub-clinical = relating to or denoting a disease which is not severe enough to present definite or readily observable symptoms.

Also Google White Coat syndrome.

Has the Thai government discontinued vaccination of adolescents as a result of that study? Of course not.  The symptoms described are very mild.


No one is buying your bullshit mucus. People are dropping like flies. You'll be next :D LOL

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Carl D on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:34pm:
No one is buying your bullshit mucus. People are dropping like flies. You'll be next :D LOL


Too many big, technical words in his post for you to understand, Sir Nail?

:)

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John_Taverner on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:32pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:34pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:39pm:
Not tachycardia? !

Tachycardia is the medical term for a heart rate over 100 beats a minute.

I get that whenever I see a needle!  The other symptoms you mention are mild. The key here is sub-clinical.

I also get moderate cardiovascular "effects" whenever I get a blood test.  They scare the beejeezus out of me. It stems from a botched malaria test when I was in Africa. At least I don't have to lie down to get a test nowadays.

You know what's wrong with that study? They didn't do a day -3 check. In other words a background reading (as opposed to baseline) for a condition that's common in the population. 

Sub-clinical = relating to or denoting a disease which is not severe enough to present definite or readily observable symptoms.

Also Google White Coat syndrome.

Has the Thai government discontinued vaccination of adolescents as a result of that study? Of course not.  The symptoms described are very mild.


No one is buying your bullshit mucus. People are dropping like flies. You'll be next :D LOL



Have you had Covid yet?

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:02pm

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:32pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:34pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:39pm:
Not tachycardia? !

Tachycardia is the medical term for a heart rate over 100 beats a minute.

I get that whenever I see a needle!  The other symptoms you mention are mild. The key here is sub-clinical.

I also get moderate cardiovascular "effects" whenever I get a blood test.  They scare the beejeezus out of me. It stems from a botched malaria test when I was in Africa. At least I don't have to lie down to get a test nowadays.

You know what's wrong with that study? They didn't do a day -3 check. In other words a background reading (as opposed to baseline) for a condition that's common in the population. 

Sub-clinical = relating to or denoting a disease which is not severe enough to present definite or readily observable symptoms.

Also Google White Coat syndrome.

Has the Thai government discontinued vaccination of adolescents as a result of that study? Of course not.  The symptoms described are very mild.


No one is buying your bullshit mucus. People are dropping like flies. You'll be next :D LOL



Have you had Covid yet?


Yes I have mucus. Kicked it in 3-days without your monkey snot kill shot. Never felt better and no ICU. ;)

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Lisa Jones on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:17pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:02pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:32pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:34pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:39pm:
Not tachycardia? !

Tachycardia is the medical term for a heart rate over 100 beats a minute.

I get that whenever I see a needle!  The other symptoms you mention are mild. The key here is sub-clinical.

I also get moderate cardiovascular "effects" whenever I get a blood test.  They scare the beejeezus out of me. It stems from a botched malaria test when I was in Africa. At least I don't have to lie down to get a test nowadays.

You know what's wrong with that study? They didn't do a day -3 check. In other words a background reading (as opposed to baseline) for a condition that's common in the population. 

Sub-clinical = relating to or denoting a disease which is not severe enough to present definite or readily observable symptoms.

Also Google White Coat syndrome.

Has the Thai government discontinued vaccination of adolescents as a result of that study? Of course not.  The symptoms described are very mild.


No one is buying your bullshit mucus. People are dropping like flies. You'll be next :D LOL



Have you had Covid yet?


Yes I have mucus. Kicked it in 3-days without your monkey snot kill shot. Never felt better and no ICU. ;)


I've not had any Covid19 jab and I've never tested positive for Covid19 either. So you're unjabbed and have tested positive for Covid19. Interesting.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:31am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 10:02pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:32pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:34pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:39pm:
Not tachycardia? !

Tachycardia is the medical term for a heart rate over 100 beats a minute.

I get that whenever I see a needle!  The other symptoms you mention are mild. The key here is sub-clinical.

I also get moderate cardiovascular "effects" whenever I get a blood test.  They scare the beejeezus out of me. It stems from a botched malaria test when I was in Africa. At least I don't have to lie down to get a test nowadays.

You know what's wrong with that study? They didn't do a day -3 check. In other words a background reading (as opposed to baseline) for a condition that's common in the population. 

Sub-clinical = relating to or denoting a disease which is not severe enough to present definite or readily observable symptoms.

Also Google White Coat syndrome.

Has the Thai government discontinued vaccination of adolescents as a result of that study? Of course not.  The symptoms described are very mild.


No one is buying your bullshit mucus. People are dropping like flies. You'll be next :D LOL



Have you had Covid yet?


Yes I have mucus. Kicked it in 3-days without your monkey snot kill shot. Never felt better and no ICU. ;)



still repeating that Lie  :D :D :D

John tavenner, he previously stated that he thought he had covid because of a RAT test coming back positive, but when he later had more extensive tests the nurse told him t wasn't covid and most likely just some sort of cold


ever since then he's been pretending he's had covid  :D :D :D

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Carl D on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:57am

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:31am:
still repeating that Lie  :D :D :D

John tavenner, he previously stated that he thought he had covid because of a RAT test coming back positive, but when he later had more extensive tests the nurse told him t wasn't covid and most likely just some sort of cold


ever since then he's been pretending he's had covid  :D :D :D


Oh, yes indeed.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/42#42

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/44#44

;D


Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:59am

Carl D wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:31am:
still repeating that Lie  :D :D :D

John tavenner, he previously stated that he thought he had covid because of a RAT test coming back positive, but when he later had more extensive tests the nurse told him t wasn't covid and most likely just some sort of cold


ever since then he's been pretending he's had covid  :D :D :D


Oh, yes indeed.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/42#42

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/44#44

;D



he never fails with that lie ::)

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Lisa Jones on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:06am

John_Taverner wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 7:33am:
If you prefer conspiracy theories, don't open these links:

https://journals.lww.com/jcardiovascularmedicine/Fulltext/2021/09000/Pericarditis_in_patients_with_COVID_19__a.4.aspx


Quote:
Pericarditis is a potential presentation of COVID-19. COVID-19 can have an atypical presentation with non-respiratory symptoms. Recognition of an atypical symptom of COVID-19 allows for early isolation and limits the spread.


https://casereports.bmj.com/content/13/8/e237617

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8789202/

There are very rare cases of pericarditis and myocarditis caused by vaccines. However, Myocarditis and pericarditis occur in the general population from a variety of causes. Not all cases that occur after vaccination are caused by the vaccine. Myocarditis and pericarditis can also be caused by COVID-19.

The vaccine related condition is usually mild, and more often found in younger people (mostly males) under 40.

One of my colleagues who was a super fit athlete at 66 years old, contracted pericarditis after a mild Covid infection (he tested positive for one day only). He had not been vaccinated. He bounced back quickly because of his good general health, but told me he was frustrated at suddenly having to take medications for the first time in his life.



The vaccine related condition is usually mild, and more often found in younger people (mostly males) under 40.

Taverner - when you read that bit there 👆 ... tell me what went through your mind. Be honest.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:36am

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:59am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:31am:
still repeating that Lie  :D :D :D

John tavenner, he previously stated that he thought he had covid because of a RAT test coming back positive, but when he later had more extensive tests the nurse told him t wasn't covid and most likely just some sort of cold


ever since then he's been pretending he's had covid  :D :D :D


Oh, yes indeed.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/42#42

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/44#44

;D



he never fails with that lie ::)


The RAT tested positive dickhead. I leave the rest up to you to ponder ;)

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:41am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:59am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:31am:
still repeating that Lie  :D :D :D

John tavenner, he previously stated that he thought he had covid because of a RAT test coming back positive, but when he later had more extensive tests the nurse told him t wasn't covid and most likely just some sort of cold


ever since then he's been pretending he's had covid  :D :D :D


Oh, yes indeed.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/42#42

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/44#44

;D



he never fails with that lie ::)


The RAT tested positive dickhead. I leave the rest up to you to ponder ;)



ponder this you dumbarse'


Sir lastnail wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 6:30pm:
I was told it wasn't convid anyway. It was influenza A which shows up on the test as well.





Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:50am

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:41am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:59am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 9:31am:
still repeating that Lie  :D :D :D

John tavenner, he previously stated that he thought he had covid because of a RAT test coming back positive, but when he later had more extensive tests the nurse told him t wasn't covid and most likely just some sort of cold


ever since then he's been pretending he's had covid  :D :D :D


Oh, yes indeed.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/42#42

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652749180/44#44

;D



he never fails with that lie ::)


The RAT tested positive dickhead. I leave the rest up to you to ponder ;)



ponder this you dumbarse'


Sir lastnail wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 6:30pm:
I was told it wasn't convid anyway. It was influenza A which shows up on the test as well.


Whatever it was Smith the RAT test was positive and I got over it in a few days without your monkey snot injection ;) Bad luck mate, you've taken this stuff for nothing and now it is going to do you in slowly ;)

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Carl D on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:58am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Whatever it was Smith the RAT test was positive and I got over it in a few days without your monkey snot injection ;) Bad luck mate, you've taken this stuff for nothing and now it is going to do you in slowly ;)


So, you still don't know if it was Covid or the flu or something else?

Looks like we're back to square one again - you were telling us for the past few months you've had Covid and you were fine.

By the way - RAT's are notoriously unreliable.

I'll just point and laugh at you (again) and leave it at that.

(points) ----> (laughs) ;D

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2022 at 11:44am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Whatever it was Smith the RAT test was positive and I got over it in a few days without your monkey snot injection



that rat test must have been to test stupidity.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John_Taverner on Aug 15th, 2022 at 1:22pm
The vast majority of Omicron infections are mild. I know a few people who have had very mild symptoms, even after having only a single vaccination.

As far as the relatively rare mild cardiovascular effects in young people, the TGA has obviously determined that the risk is justified.


Quote:
The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) is responsible for assessing all COVID-19 vaccines before they can be used in Australia. We will only register a vaccine if its benefits are much greater than its risks.


Having dealt with the TGA previously, I have a lot of confidence in their decisions. They don't make rash decisions.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by buzzanddidj on Aug 15th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:51pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
load the telegram app on your PC or phone otherwise you miss out on some good stuff ;)


Hmm... let me think about that for a sec.

Nope... I'll pass, thanks.


Send it to your fuct checkers carl for confirmation :D LOL



To date, the number of vaccines administered in Australia over the last (approximately) two years

62,833,710

To date, the number of vaccines administered in Australia over the last (approximately)two years that have caused  death

13



These are the FACTS - compiled from Australian hospitals and Health Departments

There is NO "Big Pharma" no "Big Government" no "Big MSM" no "Big Syringe" no "Big Doctor" no "Big Nurse" no "Big Conspiracy" no "Big Chemtrail" and no "Big Illuminati" involvement

- and are firm figures not open to "Big Manipulation"












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Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by John_Taverner on Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:31pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 2:58pm:
To date, the number of vaccines administered in Australia over the last (approximately) two years

62,833,710

To date, the number of vaccines administered in Australia over the last (approximately)two years that have caused  death

13



[size=12][i]These are the FACTS - compiled from Australian hospitals and Health Departments

There is NO "Big Pharma" no "Big Government" no "Big MSM" no "Big Syringe" no "Big Doctor" no "Big Nurse" no "Big Conspiracy" no "Big Chemtrail" and no "Big Illuminati" involvement


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Some common sense. It's impossible to say how many lives have been saved due to vaccination, but I'd put it around 50,000 in Australia alone.

- and for what it's worth, most of those 13 deaths were due to Astra Zeneca.


Of course there is always the "Big Chook" with its head cut off.

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Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:57pm
This should be in the Fringe not here.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:59pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Whatever it was Smith the RAT test was positive and I got over it in a few days without your monkey snot injection ;) Bad luck mate, you've taken this stuff for nothing and now it is going to do you in slowly ;)


I know we're supposed to show compassion for our fellow humans etc, even if they don't show any in return, but that's a crying shame.  Like Scoot, we're better off without you too.

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Lisa Jones on Aug 15th, 2022 at 5:07pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 4:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Whatever it was Smith the RAT test was positive and I got over it in a few days without your monkey snot injection ;) Bad luck mate, you've taken this stuff for nothing and now it is going to do you in slowly ;)


I know we're supposed to show compassion for our fellow humans etc, even if they don't show any in return, but that's a crying shame.  Like Scoot, we're better off without you too.


We're better off without 2 elderly male posters who you disagree with? That is what you just stated..wasn't it?




Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 15th, 2022 at 7:16pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:51pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
load the telegram app on your PC or phone otherwise you miss out on some good stuff ;)


Hmm... let me think about that for a sec.

Nope... I'll pass, thanks.


Send it to your fuct checkers carl for confirmation :D LOL



To date, the number of vaccines administered in Australia over the last (approximately) two years

62,833,710

To date, the number of vaccines administered in Australia over the last (approximately)two years that have caused  death

13



These are the FACTS - compiled from Australian hospitals and Health Departments

There is NO "Big Pharma" no "Big Government" no "Big MSM" no "Big Syringe" no "Big Doctor" no "Big Nurse" no "Big Conspiracy" no "Big Chemtrail" and no "Big Illuminati" involvement

- and are firm figures not open to "Big Manipulation"












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Does it talk about the CONVID conspiracy ?? How come ?

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 15th, 2022 at 7:35pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:50am:
...Whatever it was Smith the RAT test was positive and I got over it in a few days without your monkey snot injection... Bad luck mate, you've taken this stuff for nothing and now it is going to do you in slowly...

Your recovery is not all that astounding mate; you were just one
of the multitude who recover from COVID without any medical
intervention prior to, during, or after their viral infection.  Many
people carry the virus, and don't even know they're infected.

Most people with COVID will have a mild illness and will recover in
a few days anyway.  Your immunity hasn't been increased all that
much by a light viral loading, so you should still get vaccinated at
a later date.

I'm not quite sure why exactly you're so afraid of being vaccinated.
To date, there've been 62,838,634 doses administered in Australia,
with only 13 recorded deaths, whilst there have been 12,886 deaths
of unvaccinated people.

The odds are against you.      Unfortunately. 

  

Title: Re: This is what the jab does to your heart !
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 15th, 2022 at 8:26pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 7:35pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2022 at 10:50am:
...Whatever it was Smith the RAT test was positive and I got over it in a few days without your monkey snot injection... Bad luck mate, you've taken this stuff for nothing and now it is going to do you in slowly...

Your recovery is not all that astounding mate; you were just one
of the multitude who recover from COVID without any medical
intervention prior to, during, or after their viral infection.  Many
people carry the virus, and don't even know they're infected.

Most people with COVID will have a mild illness and will recover in
a few days anyway.  Your immunity hasn't been increased all that
much by a light viral loading, so you should still get vaccinated at
a later date.

I'm not quite sure why exactly you're so afraid of being vaccinated.
To date, there've been 62,838,634 doses administered in Australia,
with only 13 recorded deaths, whilst there have been 12,886 deaths
of unvaccinated people.

The odds are against you.      Unfortunately. 

  


What about the trip to the ICU that you were using to scare the bugger out of people into taking this sh.t ?? It never happened !!

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