The Best Way to Combat Islam....

....in conversation, ask followers/proponents/apologists for ISLAM [and proponents for ISLAMIC culture/society],
to point to, in their opinion, the best 'exemplar' [to the rest of us] of moslem/Sharia majority nations.

[hint.   i tried this already.....]
e.g.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1552398731/0#0


Indonesia, was one 'offering'.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1552398731/4#4



'SLIM PICKINGS', is still my opinion......

Application of Sharia by country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_Sharia_by_country#Map

Encourage people to read the Quran. No sane person who reads chapter 9 can take Islam seriously.

Quote:

One of the most frequently quoted Quranic verses is chapter 9 verse 5. This verse is known as "The Verse of the Sword." Muslim terrorists cite it to justify their violent jihad. Correspondingly, critics of Islam claim that it commands Muslims to act with offensive aggression towards the non-Muslims of that period, and contributes to Islam’s final theological doctrine of aggression towards all non-Muslims of all times. Apologists for Islam claim that 9:5 is purely defensive. Which side is right?

THE VERSE OF THE SWORD: SURA 9:5 AND JIHAD.

There are currently around 604,200 Muslims living in Australia, (2016 Census)
who constitute 2.6% of our population.     This is 604,000 too many.

     >:(

But wait... there's more.

Muslim students at Monash University in Melbourne have  prayed outside in
protest over inadequate prayer spaces.  Fatima Ramtoola, vice president of
the Monash University Islamic Society said there is only enough room for
eight men and eight women to pray in the current space.

"It's way too small for the number of people who have to use it... every single
other university in Melbourne has adequate Muslim prayer space and we don't
understand why Monash University is not providing this for our Muslim students
on campus," she said.

https://i.postimg.cc/5ybm1QxQ/Screenshot-2022-07-29-at-00-31-03-Muslim-students-at-Monash-Uni-pray-outdoors-to-protest-inadequate.png

I'm getting increasingly sick of the additional demands these Muslim migrants
are demanding across more sectors of our society, based solely on their religion.
They must have known—or should've known before they migrated—that Australia
is a secular country, with a strong separation of church and state, and religion
and education.

These peoples' refusal to largely assimilate within the Australian community is one
of the reasons they're despised by so many people here. 

You need to shape up or ship out Fatima.      >:(

When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::)

Nonsense.

Many Muslim students at unis are ostentatious about their demand for prayer rooms and foot washing facilities.  Some will not share quiet spaces with non- Muslims but demand Muslim only spaces, and will insinuate 'Islamophobia' if their demands are not met.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 2:05pm:

When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::)

What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities?

freediver wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:05pm: When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::) What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities?

Oy!!  You know the drill fd - you answer Bbwian's questions FIRST!  Tsk, tsk  ::) ::)



But why would Bbwian want 3% of the population to have equal time with 97%? (Because NONE of the quiet places on any Australian university campus are Christian--only spaces. All chaplaincies go out of their way to be ecumenical and inclusive. But then what would Bbwian know about campus life, he got his doctorate by mail order. Tut tut an roll ze eyes.).

freediver wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:05pm: When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::) What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities?

Never been to a modern University, have you, Freediver?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 10:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 5:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:05pm: When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::) What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities? Never been to a modern University, have you, Freediver?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Never given a straight answer to a simple question, have you Brian?

freediver wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 10:14pm: freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 5:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:05pm: When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::) What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities? Never been to a modern University, have you, Freediver?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Never given a straight answer to a simple question, have you Brian?

Your ignorance is showing, Freediver.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

You are dribbling Brian.

What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities?

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 10:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 5:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:05pm: When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::) What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities? Never been to a modern University, have you, Freediver?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

:D :D :D

Well,  YOU certainly haven't, cockwomble.

Frank wrote on Jul 30^th, 2022 at 10:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 10:14pm: freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 5:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:05pm: When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::) What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities? Never been to a modern University, have you, Freediver?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) :D :D :D Well,  YOU certainly haven't, cockwomble.

I wonder then, Soren what I was standing on, on Thursday?  The signpost said it was a University.  Was it lying?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 10:13am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 10:14pm: freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 5:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:05pm: When they see equal space/time devoted to Christian devotions, you might have a point...   ::) ::) What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities? Never been to a modern University, have you, Freediver?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) :D :D :D Well,  YOU certainly haven't, cockwomble. I wonder then, Soren what I was standing on, on Thursday?  The signpost said it was a University.  Was it lying?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Probably. Or you were lost (d'oh, what's new?). Either way, you are dribbling nonsense.


Every public university has dedicated Muslim prayer rooms and Muslim student association.

In WA.

https://intranet.ecu.edu.au/student/campus-life/campus-facilities/Cultural-Faith-diversity/about

https://ipoint.uwa.edu.au/app/answers/detail/a_id/486/~/muslim-prayer-rooms-on-campus#:~:text=UWA%20has%20a%20Muslim%20prayer,Friday%20Congregational%20prayers%20every%20week.

https://future.connect.curtin.edu.au/app/answers/detail/a_id/3310/~/where-can-islamic-students-and-staff-pray-on-campus%3F

https://daleel.global/mosque/murdoch-murdoch-university-musalla/



Eastern States are no different.  Monash has its own mosque right next to its main Clayton campus.

No one is denying that, Soren.  What I am suggesting is that the areas and dedications are not equal, which is what the Muslim students are protesting.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30^th, 2022 at 8:23pm:

No one is denying that, Soren.  What I am suggesting is that the areas and dedications are not equal, which is what the Muslim students are protesting.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Monash has it's own mosque right next to its main campus.

The Muslim students are ratbags like you.

Brian claims to have mopped the floors in all different kinds of places.

What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities Brian?

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30^th, 2022 at 8:23pm:

No one is denying that, Soren.  What I am suggesting is that the areas and dedications are not equal, which is what the Muslim students are protesting.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Well, Muslim student numbers are not equal, ragbag, why should spaces be?  There is halal food food,  his/hers prayer rooms with foot washing facility - but nothing is ever enough to victims of "Islamophobia".   How many Christian prayer rooms in cuddly Malaysian and Indonesian and Pakistani unis,  Bbwian? Equal to the mosque spaces?
Why not?i

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2022 at 9:14am:

What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities Brian?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

You are dribbling again Brian.

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2022 at 3:30pm:

You are dribbling again Brian.

Resorting to ad hominen insults show that you have lost the argument, Freediver.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2022 at 3:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 31st, 2022 at 9:14am: What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities Brian? When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

MORON BINGO!!


:D :D

Old Dementia Bbwian is a sure bet!

This is good way to combat Islam. The Hellfire variant that shreds the targeted Mooslum fanatic instead of blowing up the building. Nice and tidy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62400923

Frank wrote on Jul 31^st, 2022 at 9:20am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 8:23pm: No one is denying that, Soren.  What I am suggesting is that the areas and dedications are not equal, which is what the Muslim students are protesting.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) Well, Muslim student numbers are not equal, ratbag, why should spaces be?  There is halal food food,  his/hers prayer rooms with foot washing facility - but nothing is ever enough to victims of "Islamophobia".   How many Christian prayer rooms in cuddly Malaysian and Indonesian and Pakistani unis,  Bbwian? Equal to the mosque spaces? Why not?

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2022 at 9:14am:

What space and time is dedicated to "Christian devotions" at our universities Brian?

What exactly did you have in mind FD? ANU for example has a multi-faith chaplaincy:
https://www.anu.edu.au/students/contacts/chaplaincy - which Christians are invited and welcome to use. I assume most other universities have a similar service.

A common misconception with prayer rooms is that they are exclusively for muslims. This is only because muslims tend to use them the most. But any that I have seen are always labelled as multi-faith/non-religious group specific.

So it is not "devoted to Christian devotions"?

Diplomacy is the art of getting your opponents to do what you would like to see, while having them think it was their idea. The Americans have never been good at this; Afghanistan was such a wasted opportunity. Now that America and allies are out of the country, Islam can do the job without pesky interference. Here is a good outcome that should be encouraged. Muzzlums killing Mooslms.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62736392

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCQwe_AMo74

Give Islam a 'christian' sacrifice.
Let's say, umm... how about France!? :)

Once France dies a christian death for the sins of Islam.
All the Moslems can finally drop their guns and bring closure to their 'Empire' and what it demands of them.
They can finally rest in peace, knowing that France - their 'Messiah' died for their Moslem sins.

:D

@ Reply #28,

A little light relief.

7 min well spent....      ".....the Iraqi war could have been avoided."