No, not that FMD but Foot & Mouth Disease. We face the distinct possibility of all becoming vegetarians or vegans, well, maybe the odd chook....

"Australians have been warned of essential items vanishing from supermarket shelves as the nation is on a knife’s edge over a worrying virus.

As farmers wait on a knife’s edge to see if efforts to stop foot and mouth disease (FMD) from entering the country are successful, Australians have warned of the devastating havoc the disease could wreak if it gets here.

CEO of independent farming systems group, Riverine Plains, Catherine Marriott, says the looming threat has farmers and producers in a panic and that an outbreak could change the way Australian households shop and eat.

“You won’t be able to get milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt – all of that goes,” she told news.com.au.

“You wouldn’t be able to buy it and prices would go through the roof. If people think meat and dairy is expensive now … brace yourself.”

While FMD is relatively harmless to humans, it can have devastating effects on livestock and cloven-hoofed animals including cattle, pigs, buffalo, sheep, goats and deer. The highly contagious condition results in blisters that rots off the mouths and feet of infected animals.

As farmers wait on a knife’s edge to see if efforts to stop foot and mouth disease (FMD) from entering the country are successful, Australians have warned of the devastating havoc the disease could wreak if it gets here.

CEO of independent farming systems group, Riverine Plains, Catherine Marriott, says the looming threat has farmers and producers in a panic and that an outbreak could change the way Australian households shop and eat.

“You won’t be able to get milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt – all of that goes,” she told news.com.au.

“You wouldn’t be able to buy it and prices would go through the roof. If people think meat and dairy is expensive now … brace yourself.”

While FMD is relatively harmless to humans, it can have devastating effects on livestock and cloven-hoofed animals including cattle, pigs, buffalo, sheep, goats and deer. The highly contagious condition results in blisters that rots off the mouths and feet of infected animals.

Should Australia experience a FMD outbreak, supermarket meat sections could be left empty.

Should Australia experience a FMD outbreak, supermarket meat sections could be left empty.

While politicians say an FMD outbreak could cause a $80 billion hit to Australia’s economy, domestically, it would also cause “very, very real” supply chain issues, says Ms Marriott. Depending on the extent of the FMD outbreak, Australia would need to look at importing our beef, lamb and dairy products.

“Where do you fill that hole from? You just can’t,” says Ms Marriott.

“It’s a multifaceted challenge. People won’t be able to get meat, you’ve got an animal welfare nightmare and there’s not enough trained vets in Australia to deal with it.

“Australian families, eating and enjoying safe healthy Australian meat could be challenged significantly.”...

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/food-and-mouth-disease-australia-australian-meat-and-dairy-could-vanish-if-outbreak-occurs/news-story/19072946615fe07ade500aeef9a3f22f

If it happened, a lot of restaurants would go out of business, hell. Macca's might up and leave. BUT you'd probably find a huge improvement in the health of the population. Drug companies, doctors, pharmacists might start to sweat beads..

The threat has always been there. Why is it suddenly news now?

Also, as far as I know, beef prices are dictated by the global market price, which is already exposed to the disease. A lot of our dairy is exported too.

Just ban flights to Bali/Indonesia.

I have never understood why Australians(except for being tight arse cheap charlies) would want to go there all the time.

There are better places in their own country.

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:43am:

The threat has always been there. Why is it suddenly news now? Also, as far as I know, beef prices are dictated by the global market price, which is already exposed to the disease. A lot of our dairy is exported too.

It's not about exports..... it's about importing FMD from Bali where there is an outbreak.

We don't need another super contagious animal virus entrenching itself here & decimating our beef, sheep & goat industries.

It's quite possible we would then be nett importers of these products.

Gnads wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:45am:

Just ban flights to Bali/Indonesia. I have never understood why Australians(except for being tight arse cheap charlies) would want to go there all the time. There are better places in their own country.

Yep, but the bogans just love their Bali holidays... even in the middle of a global pandemic.

Can't upset the bogans now, can we?

But, as I mentioned yesterday Western Australia is the most likely place for FMD to enter Australia with all the flights to and from Bali but Mark McGowan has no intention of restricting or stopping flights at this time because of the tourism $$$.

Oh, if anyone's still playing along with my little cartoon 'quiz' from that linked post, here's another clue which will, of course, give it away for just about everyone.  :)

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freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:43am:

Why is it suddenly news now?

there is an outbreak in Indonesia

Gnads wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:45am:

Just ban flights to Bali/Indonesia. I have never understood why Australians(except for being tight arse cheap charlies) would want to go there all the time. There are better places in their own country.

I don't get it either.

I'm the only person in Perth who has never been there.

When I ask people why they keep going back, they don't really have a valid reason.

I'm guessing it's because:

a) same time zone, so less confusion

b) cheap beer

c) ... I can't think of anything else   :-/

I've also never been to Bali and I have no intention of ever going.

The only time I have been out of Australia since I came here from the UK in 1961 (at 4 years old) was a 2 week holiday to Singapore and Penang in October, 1977.

The End Times prophesies predicted plague and pestilence.

Repent for the end is nigh.

Gnads wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:50am:

freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 9:43am: The threat has always been there. Why is it suddenly news now? Also, as far as I know, beef prices are dictated by the global market price, which is already exposed to the disease. A lot of our dairy is exported too. It's not about exports..... it's about importing FMD from Bali where there is an outbreak. We don't need another super contagious animal virus entrenching itself here & decimating our beef, sheep & goat industries. It's quite possible we would then be nett importers of these products.

Might I suggest that is the plan?  You don't live to be in your seventies without learning a few things along the way... one of Lefty's right wing conspiracies designed to up the global robber baron marketeer privateers...

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 9:43am:

The threat has always been there. Why is it suddenly news now? Also, as far as I know, beef prices are dictated by the global market price, which is already exposed to the disease. A lot of our dairy is exported too.

Much like covid -- it became political. The number of dangers that overseas visitors coming back home to Australia or coming to Australia for tourism and business have for Australia is immense.

When I first heard about the varroa mite getting detected and exterminated in shipping areas around Melbourne, the education I received on the potential to wipe out biodiversity was such a shock. And whilst I have known about the foot and mouth disease's potential to destroy our meat industry, I feel that we have not been very cautious about our quarantine procedures.

I just wish that Australians did not have a complacent attitude when it came to ecological disasters that would ruin such a fragile continent.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

The End Times prophesies predicted plague and pestilence. Repent for the end is nigh.

:o

You have got to be the most pessimistic poster I have seen. You are giving up. Going to cry in the corner. And you are waiting to die.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

The End Times prophesies predicted plague and pestilence. Repent for the end is nigh.

LOL... nope, the end is not "nigh".

Consider the Black Death (also known as the Pestilence), which was a bubonic
plague pandemic, and the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history, that
caused the death of an estimated 200 million people.

That was 700 years ago.  Where was the old Jesus bro then?  And the world
travelled on quite nicely in the intervening period until today.

The god-botherers are forever making these doomsday pronouncements as per
their silly holy book, but not one—ever—has come to fruition.

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 7:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 1:43pm: The End Times prophesies predicted plague and pestilence. Repent for the end is nigh. LOL... nope, the end is not "nigh". Consider the Black Death (also known as the Pestilence), which was a bubonic plague pandemic, and the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history, that caused the death of an estimated 200 million people. That was 700 years ago.  Where was the old Jesus bro then?  And the world travelled on quite nicely in the intervening period until today. The god-botherers are forever making these doomsday pronouncements as per their silly holy book, but not one—ever—has come to fruition.

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there are those upon your world,
when they receive encouragement,
enlightenment, answers
they yet still choose to lament in " what if " scenarios ..
even after receiving the great news and reminders
of that which ye are capable of
carry on regardless as more knowledge regarding your predicament,
is revealed with so very much love.

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Could the Brits simply just sell off their excess foot and mouth vaccines to the Asians? How widespread is the disease in Indonesia?

Feminist Man Destruction = FMD?  While ever we continue to 'validate' their bullshit in Albo style - that will always continue..... for no valid reason.

Albo - leave it to the Lesos and the Trannies to carry on about - don't make it  government business to inflict on all (gasps) equally by your standards as handed to you by your 'party'....

Otherwise you invite the Backlash.... and it will be a mighty one.... and we don't want a repeat of Scomoco as the only alternative..... We've Had Enough of both of you!!

Travellers should wash shoes or leave them in Bali: agriculture minister

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Yeah, I can just see that happening when the majority of the Australian population can't even be bothered to wear a mask to protect themselves and others from Covid and we have Federal and State governments too afraid to mandate masks.

And, as I mentioned last week - our West Australian newspaper recently interviewed people at Perth Airport who were about to board flights to Bali and not one of them even knew what FMD was let alone that it was a threat to Australia.


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He told Channel Seven’s Sunrise that “biosecurity is everyone’s business”.

Doesn't seem to be the Federal government's business (i.e. responsibility) at least in regard to Covid - previous and present government.

Oh, dear...

Foot and mouth disease reportedly detected in beef products at Adelaide Airport

There have been calls to close the border amid warnings a single case could halt the export industry overnight.


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A second discovery of foot and mouth disease has been made in Australia, with fragments reportedly detected in undeclared beef in Adelaide. The discovery at the city’s airport, reported by the Adelaide Advertiser on Thursday, comes a day after Agriculture Minister Murray Watt revealed disease fragments were detected in pork products in Melbourne. They are the first detections of the disease amid a current global outbreak. There have been calls to close the border with Indonesia - one of Australia’s biggest trade partners - amid warnings a single case of foot and mouth disease could halt the export industry overnight.

"Too little, too late" will be the Australian government's usual response.

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Carl D wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 2:12pm:

Oh, dear... Foot and mouth disease reportedly detected in beef products at Adelaide Airport There have been calls to close the border amid warnings a single case could halt the export industry overnight. Quote: A second discovery of foot and mouth disease has been made in Australia, with fragments reportedly detected in undeclared beef in Adelaide. The discovery at the city’s airport, reported by the Adelaide Advertiser on Thursday, comes a day after Agriculture Minister Murray Watt revealed disease fragments were detected in pork products in Melbourne. They are the first detections of the disease amid a current global outbreak. There have been calls to close the border with Indonesia - one of Australia’s biggest trade partners - amid warnings a single case of foot and mouth disease could halt the export industry overnight. "Too little, too late" will be the Australian government's usual response.

Nobody saw this coming   ::)

https://youtu.be/G3ceb5OVG7k

Back in the 1990s, we had a fruit fly outbreak in Nth Qld. If you were up in Cairns visiting and were on the way back, you had to declare if you had fruit. The deal was to eat it or throw the fruit away. The comprehensive attention made to contain the outbreak was so successful that I understand that the fruit fly outbreak has been forced back to the Torres Strait Islands. Monitoring has continued.

If we can dedicate eradication programs to something as hard to control as the fruit fly, surely foot and mouth disease (which has a vaccine to combat the problem) should be able to be combatted more easily. High quarantine rules for anyone that visits a country that has an outbreak of foot and mouth disease.

It surprises me that the quarantine of people to control covid did not extend to things like foot and mouth disease quarantining.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 3:02pm:

was so successful that I understand that the fruit fly outbreak has been forced back to the Torres Strait Islands

on what planet? I can't leave the fruit bowl out on the counter where it usually sits in summer without if filling u with fruit fly. 

I'm posting a screenshot of this from The Guardian because their links tend to 'move around a bit' after a while.

I'll be waiting for the inevitable Bali Bogan riot if Australia closes the border with Indonesia - especially here in WA.


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Watt, speaking on Sky News, called on travellers to do the right thing. "If we do the right thing I do think we can keep foot-and-mouth out".

Yeah, right!  ;D

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John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 3:42pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21st, 2022 at 3:02pm: was so successful that I understand that the fruit fly outbreak has been forced back to the Torres Strait Islands on what planet? I can't leave the fruit bowl out on the counter where it usually sits in summer without if filling u with fruit fly.

There was a certain type of fruit fly in Nth Qld that if it escaped into Australia, it would have devastated the fruit industry. Much worse than the usual fruit fly we have in Australia.

Carl D wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 4:42pm:

I'm posting a screenshot of this from The Guardian because their links tend to 'move around a bit' after a while. I'll be waiting for the inevitable Bali Bogan riot if Australia closes the border with Indonesia - especially here in WA.

Even the most bogan of Aussies would be willing to sacrifice trips to Bali if it means that our meat industry is secured.

Carl D wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 4:42pm:

I'm posting a screenshot of this from The Guardian because their links tend to 'move around a bit' after a while. I'll be waiting for the inevitable Bali Bogan riot if Australia closes the border with Indonesia - especially here in WA.

we've been stemming the entry of F&M from our asian neighbors for about two decades now. There is nothing new. I don't know what the big deal is about bali

Went to Nu Zulland during Fiji Coup II, and had to bathe the boots when I came back... it's nothing... should be standard procedure..... as for Bali - who loves filthy and hot humid places anyway?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 4:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2022 at 3:42pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21st, 2022 at 3:02pm: was so successful that I understand that the fruit fly outbreak has been forced back to the Torres Strait Islands on what planet? I can't leave the fruit bowl out on the counter where it usually sits in summer without if filling u with fruit fly.  There was a certain type of fruit fly in Nth Qld that if it escaped into Australia, it would have devastated the fruit industry. Much worse than the usual fruit fly we have in Australia.

Drink Coopers beer, leave half an inch in the bottle with the yeast, and they will die there in numbers... gotta get my gardens in full swing for Spring...

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 5:15pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 21st, 2022 at 4:42pm: I'm posting a screenshot of this from The Guardian because their links tend to 'move around a bit' after a while. I'll be waiting for the inevitable Bali Bogan riot if Australia closes the border with Indonesia - especially here in WA. we've been stemming the entry of F&M from our asian neighbors for about two decades now. There is nothing new. I don't know what the big deal is about bali

It is usually political when countries get involved as the source of a disease outbreak. The news needs something to report about that would get the readers reading. Maybe we are trying to pressure Indonesia not to give in to the Chinese.

'No alternative': Calls grow for border to close amid foot and mouth fears


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Australia should close its border to Indonesia until the country's foot and mouth disease crisis is resolved, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton says. The federal government continues to resist a closure, a position backed by the National Farmers Federation.

And, if the Liberals were in power I'm sure they would be resisting calls for a closure while Labor would want the border closed immediately.


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Marles also said foot sanitation mats were being rolled out at airports for travellers returning from Indonesia. "If they are not in place in every airport right now, it's on its way," he said.

Yeah, I'm sure they are. I read a story that some of these sanitation mats arrived at Perth Airport late on Friday afternoon (they have to come from China or somewhere overseas) but they wouldn't be "rolled out" until today... after the weekend, of course... lol..

Oh, and 2 or 3 flights arrived at Perth Airport from Bali on Saturday.

Doesn't seem to be much of a sense of urgency, does there?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 10:39pm:

Drink Coopers beer,

i'd rather the fruit fly  :D :D :D

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 19^th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Could the Brits simply just sell off their excess foot and mouth vaccines to the Asians? How widespread is the disease in Indonesia?

Which strain? There are a number.

"There are seven immunologically distinct serotypes of the foot-and-mouth disease (FMD) virus and over 60 subtypes"

https://dairy-cattle.extension.org/are-there-different-strains-of-the-foot-and-mouth-disease-fmd-virus/

Feminist Mental Disorder?  Never heard of it - but I don't doubt its existence.....

.... the above lead-in to an advertisement brought to you by Grappler Portable Meals (a subsidiary of GGMT&SI) - we roast everything ..... try our unlimited free service now for a free serve ........

Paywalled as usual but you get the idea.

Alarming number of travellers entering Australia from Indonesia fail to declare banned FMD products

Well, that's a surprise, isn't it?

Of course, the sensible thing to do would be to suspend all travel to and from Indonesia (including Bali) but that would be too 'logical'.

Also, with these supa doopa mats that everyone arriving from Indonesia is supposed to walk on to 'sterilise' their shoes - what happens to the other footwear most or all returning travellers would have packed in their luggage, do they need to take them out and have them 'sterilised' as well?

Carl D wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2022 at 11:15am:

Paywalled as usual but you get the idea. Alarming number of travellers entering Australia from Indonesia fail to declare banned FMD products Well, that's a surprise, isn't it? Of course, the sensible thing to do would be to suspend all travel to and from Indonesia (including Bali) but that would be too 'logical'. Also, with these supa doopa mats that everyone arriving from Indonesia is supposed to walk on to 'sterilise' their shoes - what happens to the other footwear most or all returning travellers would have packed in their luggage, do they need to take them out and have them 'sterilised' as well?

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I'm shocked! Truly shocked! I actually agree with you 100%. And that's never happened before.

One of us (clearly) isn't feeling ok. 🥺