I live on a farm.  I never understood the claim the more birds are killed by wind farms than by cars or cats. This report confirms that suspicion.

Danish research shows “almost no birds” die in collisions with wind turbines

https://reneweconomy.com.au/danish-research-shows-almost-no-birds-die-in-collisions-with-wind-turbines-43335/

“The results confirm that birds are astonishingly good at flying around or over the turbines. This is positive, not only because almost no birds die in collisions, but also because it means that the erection of wind turbines doesn’t need to be in direct conflict with natural areas. This new knowledge should be taken into consideration in connection with the planning of new wind farms.”

The report was carried out and authored by three recognised consultancies, including local professional ornithologists.

The three authors were Jan Drachmann of the Pennen & Sværdet consultancy, who has a Ph.D. in population biology (evolution, ecology and genetics) from Aarhus University; Simon Waagner of Profus Naturrådgivning (PROFUS Nature Advice), a candidatus scientiarum cand.scient graduate from Aarhus University; and Henrik Haaning Nielsen of Avifauna Consult, a professional ornithologist with lengthy resume of work.

Sponsored by Vattenfall, which naturally has a vested interest in the outcome of the report’s findings, the study was carried out partly to prove that the Klim Wind Farm complied with its environmental permit – which stipulates that collisions must not exceed 75% of the current sustainable mortality rates for populations of pink-footed geese and crane.

However, importantly, the findings stand for themselves, as do the credits of the three independent authors who carried out the investigation."

https://www.evwind.es/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/birds-wind-energy-640x372.jpg

And all ecosystems are equal. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

random wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 4:59pm:

Danish research shows “almost no birds” die in collisions with wind turbines

Lee will be devastated ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://abcbirds.org/blog21/wind-turbine-mortality/

From studies done on 2012 ( the wind turbines have increased greatly since then) between 140,000 and 679,000 per year. All most none. ;)

or this  -

"But in a response to the claims, the RSPB’s conservation director, Martin Harper, says a large body of scientific evidence  shows “appropriately located windfarms have negligible impacts” on bird populations."

https://www.carbonbrief.org/bird-death-and-wind-turbines-a-look-at-the-evidence/

Of course wind farms are solely located at sites that protect birds. Nothing to do with the best wind at all. ;)

Fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind.

Good post Random.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 5:25pm:

Fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind.

LINK?

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 5:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 5:25pm: Fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind. LINK?

Your wish if my command.

https://www.climate-change-guide.com/images/how-many-birds-do-windmills-kill-21820032.jpg

https://theconversation.com/wind-farms-are-hardly-the-bird-slayers-theyre-made-out-to-be-heres-why-79567

It concluded:

    wind farms and nuclear power stations are responsible each for between 0.3 and 0.4 fatalities per gigawatt-hour (GWh) of electricity while fossil-fuelled power stations are responsible for about 5.2 fatalities per GWh.

That’s nearly 15 times more. From this, the author estimated:

    wind farms killed approximately seven thousand birds in the United States in 2006 but nuclear plants killed about 327,000 and fossil-fuelled power plants 14.5 million.

In other words, for every one bird killed by a wind turbine, nuclear and fossil fuel powered plants killed 2,118 birds.

http://media4.giphy.com/media/13C9Ls0jJOKJLq/giphy.gif

The Conversation? ;D ;D
" 2009 study using US and European data on bird deaths estimated the number of birds killed per unit of power generated by wind, fossil fuel and nuclear power systems."

But let's actually look at a study.

"In making this case, a number of salient limitations deserve mentioning. This study compares wind energy with nuclear power and fossil fuels but not other sources of electricity such as solar panels or hydroelectric dams. Many of the avian deaths from fossil fuels result indirectly from climate change, whereas those from wind energy and nuclear power are more direct from collisions with equipment (wind turbines and nuclear cooling towers) and contamination of land and water (uranium mines and enrichment facilities). "

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1943815X.2012.746993

Climate change kills birds because they can't move. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BTW- The study referred to by TC is entitles - "Contextualizing avian mortality: A preliminary appraisal of bird and bat fatalities from wind, fossil-fuel, and nuclear electricity"

With the usual plea for more money. ;)

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 5:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 5:25pm: Fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind. LINK?

Either way, the results show that even with high-range estimates for renewables compared to low-range estimates for fossil fuels, fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:22pm:

Either way, the results show that even with high-range estimates for renewables compared to low-range estimates for fossil fuels, fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind.

Nope.  Fossil fuels are estimated to cause more deaths.  ::)

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 6:22pm: Either way, the results show that even with high-range estimates for renewables compared to low-range estimates for fossil fuels, fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind. Nope.  Fossil fuels are estimated to cause more deaths.  ::)

No.

Read it again, but this time think back to your year-10 English comprehension lessons.

"Either way, the results show that even with high-range estimates for renewables compared to low-range estimates for fossil fuels, fossil fuels are responsible for far more bird fatalities than solar or wind."

Reckon Pollution (The Venutian Curse) kills more birds and everything than what's on that graph.
Reckon Warfare (The Martian Curse) kills more birds and everything than what's on that graph.

...Reckon Humans (The Gaean Curse) kills more birds and everything than what's on that graph.

:P ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

No. Read it again, but this time think back to your year-10 English comprehension lessons.

From your reference -

"The results should be taken with a grain of salt. As U.S. News noted, each study used a different methodology to come up with their numbers." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 6:29pm: No. Read it again, but this time think back to your year-10 English comprehension lessons. From your reference - "The results should be taken with a grain of salt. As U.S. News noted, each study used a different methodology to come up with their numbers."

That's merely an opinion.

You know about opinions and arseholes?

https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/w_640,h_640,c_limit,q_auto,f_auto/Comparative_bird_deaths_Source_National_Audubon_Society_djalbx.jpg

https://www.evwind.es/2020/10/01/the-realities-of-bird-and-bat-deaths-by-wind-turbines/77477

random wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:39pm:

https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/w_640,h_640,c_limit,q_auto,f_auto/Comparative_bird_deaths_Source_National_Audubon_Society_djalbx.jpg https://www.evwind.es/2020/10/01/the-realities-of-bird-and-bat-deaths-by-wind-turbines/77477

Lol   ;D   Love it.

Let's hammer the point home:

http://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/15195.jpeg

random wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:39pm:

https://www.evwind.es/2020/10/01/the-realities-of-bird-and-bat-deaths-by-wind-turbines/77477

From your reference -

"In the end, it’s climate change that causes the most significant threat to wildlife." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:46pm:

Let's hammer the point home:

So now your gunna build buildings that move around so the birds don't strike them? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And fossil fuels didn't even rate a mention? ::)

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 6:46pm: Let's hammer the point home: So now your gunna build buildings that move around so the birds don't strike them? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D And fossil fuels didn't even rate a mention? ::)

Just this afternoon, a kookaburra few into a window in my house.  The house kills roughly a bird a year.  Meanwhile no wind turbines to be seen!

random wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 7:00pm:

Meanwhile no wind turbines to be seen!

And no coal plant. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:50pm:

So now your gunna build buildings that move around so the birds don't strike them?

Why would he? YOU were the idiot arguing wind  turbines were bad because they kill birds. Maybe you should build your home underground... about 6ft should do it.

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 7:54pm:

YOU were the idiot arguing wind  turbines were bad because they kill birds.

Stationary buildings kill more birds apparently. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 8:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 7:54pm: YOU were the idiot arguing wind  turbines were bad because they kill birds. Stationary buildings kill more birds apparently. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/w_640,h_640,c_limit,q_auto,f_auto/Comparative_bird_deaths_Source_National_Audubon_Society_djalbx.jpg

https://c.tenor.com/Wbs0K92SgqEAAAAd/im-afraid-thats-true-its-the-truth.gif

I see the only comeback the renewable cultists can come up with is some references to wind turbines killing fewer birds than previously thought...nothing about the inefficiency and waste though... ::)

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

random wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 4:59pm: Danish research shows “almost no birds” die in collisions with wind turbines Lee will be devastated ;D ;D ;D ;D

He clearly was.  There are think tanks in the coal industry inventing lies to stop renewables and boomers swallow them all