They've gone too far this time.
To me, this means War.
Death to Lefties.

They're now attacking Childrens Books which they claim are detrimental to the 'lefty' idealism for Children of today.

One of which is the global favourite across the world: The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/shopping/the-very-hungry-caterpillar-is-among-the-list-of-books-warned-to-be-detrimental-to-children/ar-AAXVTzY?bk=1&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8fe4227c336f4fee992d135a0927bf98

Are you offended sweet-pea?

random wrote on Jun 5^th, 2022 at 9:01pm:

Are you offended sweet-pea?

Over Hungry Caterpillar?
I'm gonna buy a gun tomorrow.
This is a religious war.

Quote:

“Purely and simply this research shows, there’s a lack of representation of boys and girls in non-traditional gender roles in these books,” explained Dr Adam. “Book characters provide role models and implicit definitions of masculinity and femininity for children,” the study claimed, and can have “a long-term influence on children’s gender development because they communicate cultural and social norms to children.” The study found the books do not include gender diverse or ethnically diverse characters. “This can contribute to children from these families and backgrounds feeling excluded or marginalised,” Dr Adam said.

And they got all that from a story about an insect? I would have thought the LGBTQIF community would like that one.

He wrote it as a book about Hope.
Not about 'sexualities'.

Jasin wrote on Jun 5^th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

They've gone too far this time. To me, this means War. Death to Lefties. They're now attacking Childrens Books which they claim are detrimental to the 'lefty' idealism for Children of today. One of which is the global favourite across the world: The Very Hungry Caterpillar. https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/shopping/the-very-hungry-caterpillar-is-among-the-list-of-books-warned-to-be-detrimental-to-children/ar-AAXVTzY?bk=1&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8fe4227c336f4fee992d135a0927bf98

The only reason these views are broadcast is you crying about them

What outdated stereotype is 'The Hungry Caterpillar' portraying exactly? Or 'Hairy Maclary'.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance... the price of libertarianism is eternal decadence .....

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 2:27pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 5th, 2022 at 8:51pm: They've gone too far this time. To me, this means War. Death to Lefties. They're now attacking Childrens Books which they claim are detrimental to the 'lefty' idealism for Children of today. One of which is the global favourite across the world: The Very Hungry Caterpillar. https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/shopping/the-very-hungry-caterpillar-is-among-the-list-of-books-warned-to-be-detrimental-to-children/ar-AAXVTzY?bk=1&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8fe4227c336f4fee992d135a0927bf98 The only reason these views are broadcast is you crying about them

You lefties write your own books.
Stop condemning others because they don't suit your narrative.
You Gays have a problem with other people's religions?
Then start your own Gay Religion and leave other people's religions alone.

It's not hard to see why the ALP is losing primary votes every election

If I'm not mistaken, Dr Helen Adam is good friends with Anne "Egyptian muslim" Aly, who is now the minister for Early Childhood Education

Expect more of this idiocy over the next three years

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 5:17pm:

What outdated stereotype is 'The Hungry Caterpillar' portraying exactly? Or 'Hairy Maclary'.

It's spin, like pretty much everything the right get their panties in a bunch over.


"Dr Adams insisted that the books themselves weren’t the problem but the fact that didn’t but educators and parents would often choose them over many of the new books with diverse characters and storylines."

*note the quality of the paragraph. Who's surprised?

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 5:17pm: What outdated stereotype is 'The Hungry Caterpillar' portraying exactly? Or 'Hairy Maclary'. It's spin, like pretty much everything the right get their panties in a bunch over. "Dr Adams insisted that the books themselves weren’t the problem but the fact that didn’t but educators and parents would often choose them over many of the new books with diverse characters and storylines." *note the quality of the paragraph. Who's surprised?

Choice-mobile - that's what it's all about.... let the people decide.... if they want caterpillar they get caterpillar...  FFS - it's a caterpillar - there are no studies on gender etc diversity in caterpillars, and I doubt there is much colour division .....

Got me a photo of a beaut coal black moth t'other day.... never seen one...

Completely missed the point, didn't you. Typical.

Nobody is suggesting people cannot buy or read The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out.

Jasin wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 9:38pm:

They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out.

No. They're not. They are simply saying that books that represent diverse characters are helpful to diverse kids.

It's actually a no-brainer.

Sounds more like over-achievers Mothra.
Sex with vaginas and penises is not diverse enough.
Diverse with anuses and mouths, maybe animals too, eh?

It has nothing to do with sex.

Again, nobody is forcing sex onto children.

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

It has nothing to do with sex. Again, nobody is forcing sex onto children.

You know exactly what I mean Mothra. ::)
We both know where your 'diversity' comes from and is based upon.

Jasin wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 9:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:54pm: It has nothing to do with sex. Again, nobody is forcing sex onto children. You know exactly what I mean Mothra. ::) We both know where your 'diversity' comes from and is based upon.

Yes. Race, gender, ability.

That is all.

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 9:48pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:38pm: They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out. No. They're not. They are simply saying that books that represent diverse characters are helpful to diverse kids. It's actually a no-brainer.

What are "diverse kids"? ... sooks?

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:00pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:56pm: mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:54pm: It has nothing to do with sex. Again, nobody is forcing sex onto children. You know exactly what I mean Mothra. ::) We both know where your 'diversity' comes from and is based upon. Yes. Race, gender, ability. That is all.

Like what you find in Prisons - can't get any more diverse than in there, eh? ;)

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:03pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:48pm: Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:38pm: They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out. No. They're not. They are simply saying that books that represent diverse characters are helpful to diverse kids. It's actually a no-brainer. What are "diverse kids"?

The child population of Australia.

How you guys have grown since Dr Seuss, Mr Potato head and the Green Smarties' shoes were the issue of the day.

OH whoops sorry - not much has changed after all. Has it ?

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:09pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:03pm: mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:48pm: Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:38pm: They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out. No. They're not. They are simply saying that books that represent diverse characters are helpful to diverse kids. It's actually a no-brainer. What are "diverse kids"? The child population of Australia.

Mothra's twisting the Diverse (Gays and other sexually dysfunctional) into being 'all' kids. Yeah right Mothra. Don't bring normal kids down to your version of Diverse.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:11pm:

How you guys have grown since Dr Seuss, Mr Potato head and the Green Smarties' shoes were the issue of the day. OH whoops sorry - not much has changed after all. Has it ?

Dr Seuss was a druggo. The weirdo kids read his books.

Jasin wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:11pm: How you guys have grown since Dr Seuss, Mr Potato head and the Green Smarties' shoes were the issue of the day. OH whoops sorry - not much has changed after all. Has it ? Dr Seuss was a druggo. The weirdo kids read his books.

That JaSin I am
That JaSin I am
I do not like that
JaSin-I-am.

Do you like
green eggs and ham?
I do not like them
JaSin-I-am
I do not like
green eggs and ham.

Would you like them
here or there?

I Would not like them
Here or there
I Would not like them
anywhere.
I do not like
green eggs and ham.

I do not like them
JaSin-I-am

See. Drugs.  ::)

Normal diversity:
Celibate people for the greater good.
Romantics
Business People
Family people.

Adverse diversity:
Gays
Wankers
Yobbos
Rednecks

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:09pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:03pm: mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:48pm: Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:38pm: They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out. No. They're not. They are simply saying that books that represent diverse characters are helpful to diverse kids. It's actually a no-brainer. What are "diverse kids"? The child population of Australia.

So you and Anne Aly would rather brainwash kids than let them become critical thinkers, have a mind of their own?

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 9:17pm:

Completely missed the point, didn't you. Typical. Nobody is suggesting people cannot buy or read The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

Aye, but the campaign has begun to put it on the burn list..... we weren't born yesterday, you know...... once somebody starts to deem that something is optional but not preferable - it soon becomes non-preferable at all... it's a slow process, this boiling of frogs...

It's like:-  "We must shut down Mt Warning walk because some parts are slippery and dangerous.... Ayers Rock is a hazardous climb (death rate lower than the general community by a long shot) and - oh, look - those evil Wharteys are pissing in the water holes on it..... so let's shut it down for safety reason - oh - and while we're at it - let's close it forever and give it to a bunch of people who say they own it, even if most of them are ring-ins.  Forget that it's National Park and National icon.... WE - the department - will decide that!"

Hang ten NPWS bosses a week until the rest get the message.... what part of NATIONAL do you NOT understand?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:09pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:03pm: mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:48pm: Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:38pm: They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out. No. They're not. They are simply saying that books that represent diverse characters are helpful to diverse kids. It's actually a no-brainer. What are "diverse kids"? The child population of Australia. So you and Anne Aly would rather brainwash kids than let them become critical thinkers, have a mind of their own?

Most ridiculous comment. Ever.

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 11:33pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:39pm: mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:09pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 10:03pm: mothra wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:48pm: Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:38pm: They're undermining it as inferior to all the lefty weirdo books coming out. No. They're not. They are simply saying that books that represent diverse characters are helpful to diverse kids. It's actually a no-brainer. What are "diverse kids"? The child population of Australia. So you and Anne Aly would rather brainwash kids than let them become critical thinkers, have a mind of their own? Most ridiculous comment. Ever.

Oh, I dunno - my kids know the difference between truth and bullshit..... raised to think for themselves and have their view respected...... not always acceded to, but respected...... children are the only ones who don't need to earn respect from adults...... just saying......

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 12:57am:

Oh, I dunno - my kids know the difference between truth and bullshit..... raised to think for themselves and have their view respected...... not always acceded to, but respected...... children are the only ones who don't need to earn respect from adults...... just saying......

I can only imagine the human garbage you raised

Jasin wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 9:50pm:

Sounds more like over-achievers Mothra. Sex with vaginas and penises is not diverse enough. Diverse with anuses and mouths, maybe animals too, eh?

I love the insecure right assuming that anyone who has a real sex life will bugger animals.  Who in the bugger isn't getting a blow job or eating pussy (speaking as a male)?  Who isn't trying to bugger their woman up the arse?  You have a sad life

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 7:45am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:50pm: Sounds more like over-achievers Mothra. Sex with vaginas and penises is not diverse enough. Diverse with anuses and mouths, maybe animals too, eh? I love the insecure right assuming that anyone who has a real sex life will bugger animals.  Who in the bugger isn't getting a blow job or eating pussy (speaking as a male)?  Who isn't trying to bugger their woman up the arse?  You have a sad life

Nah. I'm a Celibate male. It's a 'beautiful' life.
Where I've jumped upon the horse of Celibacy and rode into the sunset to serve the great cause.
While the 'sexually dysfuntional' fall off the horse to kiss the dirty upon the 'other side'.
They always make a 'poof' sound when they hit the ground.

Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 7:58am:

Nah. I'm a Celibate male. It's a 'beautiful' life. Where I've jumped upon the horse of Celibacy and rode into the sunset to serve the great cause. While the 'sexually dysfuntional' fall off the horse to kiss the dirty upon the 'other side'. They always make a 'poof' sound when they hit the ground.

I believe the word you want is incel....

Wait, you're a proud boy? HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 7:44am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 12:57am: Oh, I dunno - my kids know the difference between truth and bullshit..... raised to think for themselves and have their view respected...... not always acceded to, but respected...... children are the only ones who don't need to earn respect from adults...... just saying...... I can only imagine the human garbage you raised

You only ever imagine anything.... never a problem with your kind.  You... errr... organised that consultation with the psych yet?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

You only ever imagine anything.... never a problem with your kind.  You... errr... organised that consultation with the psych yet?

you are ignorant hateful trash.  You're upset that other people have the right  to parent differently to you, imagine that everything you don't understand is sexual, and somehow harming children, you live in a fantasy

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 7:44am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 12:57am: Oh, I dunno - my kids know the difference between truth and bullshit..... raised to think for themselves and have their view respected...... not always acceded to, but respected...... children are the only ones who don't need to earn respect from adults...... just saying...... I can only imagine the human garbage you raised

Your mentioning of the word "garbage" (and other derogatory words) so often, can mean only one thing - deep down you consider your own life and that of your family is also garbage, or soon will be, and it will be no ones fault but your own

There's such a thing as self-brainwashing ... think something and/or say something often enough, your sub-conscience takes over and you become a mental zombie ... you are extremely close to acquiring that affliction ... "Nutcase", in more common language

Young children are better off with a balanced early education, just present facts and figures to them and allow the kids to develop curious minds independent of overbearing repetitive influence of extremes, whether "left" or "right". Children will find their own way, and in time, will reject any attempts to brainwash them ... that's the way it's always been with kids in Australia, they sort out truth from bs, especially the left's progressive bs, sooner or later

Your extreme influence is that of Left Wing Progressive Humanism with "I swim in money" tacked on the end, and all that does, is slap every poor person in the face. Nutcases like you will only hinder the progress of poor people, you're too much of an insufferable egotistical braggart who needs to be deradicalized from your extreme views

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 12:09pm:

Your mentioning of the word "garbage" (and other derogatory words) so often, can mean only one thing - deep down you consider your own life and that of your family is also garbage, or soon will be, and it will be no ones fault but your own There's such a thing as self-brainwashing ... think something and/or say something often enough, your sub-conscience takes over and you become a mental zombie ... you are extremely close to acquiring that affliction ... "Nutcase", in more common language Young children are better off with a balanced early education, just present facts and figures to them and allow the kids to develop curious minds independent of overbearing repetitive influence of extremes, whether "left" or "right". Children will find their own way, and in time, will reject any attempts to brainwash them ... that's the way it's always been with kids in Australia, they sort out truth from bs, especially the left's progressive bs, sooner or later Your extreme influence is that of Left Wing Progressive Humanism with "I swim in money" tacked on the end, and all that does, is slap every poor person in the face. Nutcases like you will only hinder the progress of poor people, you're too much of an insufferable egotistical braggart who needs to be deradicalized from your extreme views

I think people who hate children are garbage.  Stop projecting and try answering me.

It's interesting that basic compassion and kindness are now 'left wing', don't you think?

I actually give tons of money away, I mention money only when right wing scum insist I am poor.  It is not important, it does not define my worth

I checked out the list, and read a brief résumé of each book.  I couldn't
find anything that represented the multiple negative viewpoints of a group
of academics satisfying their collective tenure in their highbrow ivory towers.

The Very Hungry Caterpillar by Eric Carle
Possum Magic by Mem Fox

Harry the Dirty Dog by Gene Zion
Hairy Maclary by Lynley Dodd

Wombat Stew by Marcia Vaughan
We’re Going on a Bear Hunt by Michael Rosen

Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak
The Rainbow Fish by Marcus Pfister

"The Very Hungry Caterpillar" features a voracious caterpillar eating foodstuffs
before pupating and emerging as a butterfly. It's won many children’s literature
awards, and sold upwards of 50 million copies worldwide. The book has been
lauded as one of the greatest childhood classics of all time. The book includes
counting, days of the week, food, and butterfly’s life cycle which contribute to
juvenile education.

What I find more offensive is the fact that Aussie taxpayers are (presumably)
providing these worthless societal leeches with their salaries.

Helen Adam is your classic, rabid SJW and should be ignored as a commentator.
That she holds a Doctorate (in the phony "science") of Philosophy says it all really.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 7:44am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 12:57am: Oh, I dunno - my kids know the difference between truth and bullshit..... raised to think for themselves and have their view respected...... not always acceded to, but respected...... children are the only ones who don't need to earn respect from adults...... just saying...... I can only imagine the human garbage you raised You only ever imagine anything.... never a problem with your kind.  You... errr... organised that consultation with the psych yet?

Actually, the best psychs he could talk to about his extremism and uncouth language would be the upper echelons of the Labor movement, they would soon bestow reality upon him and tell him he's doing more harm than good by going on the way he is, that a more moderate and conciliatory approach would greatly benefit him, and the Labor movement

Extremists usually don't last long in mainstream politics. FurtureTheLeftWank is an extremist who'll fade away as soon as he realizes his extreme views are not sustainable in the long run. The coming Republic will sort our future politics out, and it won't be a lefty progressive paradise utopia we'll end up with, such a fantasy as that would inevitably die a painful death

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 12:15pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 12:09pm: Your mentioning of the word "garbage" (and other derogatory words) so often, can mean only one thing - deep down you consider your own life and that of your family is also garbage, or soon will be, and it will be no ones fault but your own There's such a thing as self-brainwashing ... think something and/or say something often enough, your sub-conscience takes over and you become a mental zombie ... you are extremely close to acquiring that affliction ... "Nutcase", in more common language Young children are better off with a balanced early education, just present facts and figures to them and allow the kids to develop curious minds independent of overbearing repetitive influence of extremes, whether "left" or "right". Children will find their own way, and in time, will reject any attempts to brainwash them ... that's the way it's always been with kids in Australia, they sort out truth from bs, especially the left's progressive bs, sooner or later Your extreme influence is that of Left Wing Progressive Humanism with "I swim in money" tacked on the end, and all that does, is slap every poor person in the face. Nutcases like you will only hinder the progress of poor people, you're too much of an insufferable egotistical braggart who needs to be deradicalized from your extreme views I think people who hate children are garbage.  Stop projecting and try answering me. It's interesting that basic compassion and kindness are now 'left wing', don't you think? I actually give tons of money away, I mention money only when right wing scum insist I am poor.  It is not important, it does not define my worth

Your extreme lefty progressive views and uncouth derogatory language is what is defining your worth. You're not worth anything the way you carry on, money or no money. Speak in a civil tongue and quit pretending you're getting some where with your "humanist" arrogance

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:06pm:

I checked out the list, and read a brief résumé of each book.  I couldn't find anything that represented the multiple negative viewpoints of a group of academics satisfying their collective tenure in their highbrow ivory towers. The Very Hungry Caterpillar by Eric Carle Possum Magic by Mem Fox Harry the Dirty Dog by Gene Zion Hairy Maclary by Lynley Dodd Wombat Stew by Marcia Vaughan We’re Going on a Bear Hunt by Michael Rosen Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak The Rainbow Fish by Marcus Pfister "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" features a voracious caterpillar eating foodstuffs before pupating and emerging as a butterfly. It's won many children’s literature awards, and sold upwards of 50 million copies worldwide. The book has been lauded as one of the greatest childhood classics of all time. The book includes counting, days of the week, food, and butterfly’s life cycle which contribute to juvenile education. What I find more offensive is the fact that Aussie taxpayers are (presumably) providing these worthless societal leeches with their salaries. Helen Adam is your classic, rabid SJW and should be ignored as a commentator. That she holds a Doctorate (in the phony "science") of Philosophy says it all really.

Excellent post Geoff

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:23pm:

Your extreme lefty progressive views and uncouth derogatory language is what is defining your worth. You're not worth anything the way you carry on, money or no money. Speak in a civil tongue and quit pretending you're getting some where with your "humanist" arrogance

I agree.  Morals and standing up to hate.  Those things define me.

I talk the way i do because they right are trash and can't debate their hate

Quote:

Dr Helen Adam from Edith Cowan University’s School of Education believes several of these children’s books ‘perpetuate outdated stereotypes’ and don’t reflect modern families. Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral. The study had 44 educators working with 271 children and 186 books, across eight early learning centres in Australia and the US. The study concluded that 90 per cent of the books did not represent multicultural Australia fairly and were not inclusive.

People change over time. Cultures change over time. Trying to compare one generation to another is like comparing apples to oranges. Dr Adam needs to start showing tolerance towards people of all ethnicities and cultures. If one society is all caucasian 100 years ago and multicultural today, then it should be reasonable to conclude that it was the way things were 100 years ago and not today. Do not rewrite history just because you feel ashamed that your racial background is not represented at the time.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

Quote: Dr Helen Adam from Edith Cowan University’s School of Education believes several of these children’s books ‘perpetuate outdated stereotypes’ and don’t reflect modern families. Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral. The study had 44 educators working with 271 children and 186 books, across eight early learning centres in Australia and the US. The study concluded that 90 per cent of the books did not represent multicultural Australia fairly and were not inclusive. People change over time. Cultures change over time. Trying to compare one generation to another is like comparing apples to oranges. Dr Adam needs to start showing tolerance towards people of all ethnicities and cultures. If one society is all caucasian 100 years ago and multicultural today, then it should be reasonable to conclude that it was the way things were 100 years ago and not today. Do not rewrite history just because you feel ashamed that your racial background is not represented at the time.

So let's move on from books that represent a different world? I mean, sure, let's do that

You know that in the US the right really is banning books - heaps of them.

In a case like this where a nutter expresses a view the same people who support genuine book banning have a fit about something that everyone is going to ignore.

I doubt that you will see anyone here supporting these books being banned.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:48pm:

You know that in the US the right really is banning books - heaps of them. In a case like this where a nutter expresses a view the same people who support genuine book banning have a fit about something that everyone is going to ignore. I doubt that you will see anyone here supporting these books being banned.

No one on the left wants to ban books.  the right are crying because they are illiterate, again

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:44pm:

So let's move on from books that represent a different world? I mean, sure, let's do that

Quote:

“The Very Hungry Caterpillar,” published in 1969, was welcomed by parents and delighted kids with its story of the metamorphosis of a green and red caterpillar with a touch of blue and brown to a proudly multi-colored butterfly.

Source

I forget what the story was about, seeing that it has been 38 years since I last heard it read to me. But, 1969 was a very different era in Australia than it is today. 95% of Australians were caucasian. I do not see how The Very Hungry Caterpillar could be an insult to the way Australians of modern day are represented. The theme of the story is about "change". Changing for the the better, it seems.

Edit: I have just watched someone read the book on youtube. What an absolute ridiculous reason to be "researching" for problems in a children's book. A lack of diversity? I would be sure that the caterpillars of the world do not give a damn.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 1:44pm: So let's move on from books that represent a different world? I mean, sure, let's do that Quote: “The Very Hungry Caterpillar,” published in 1969, was welcomed by parents and delighted kids with its story of the metamorphosis of a green and red caterpillar with a touch of blue and brown to a proudly multi-colored butterfly. Source I forget what the story was about, seeing that it has been 38 years since I last heard it read to me. But, 1969 was a very different era in Australia than it is today. 95% of Australians were caucasian. I do not see how The Very Hungry Caterpillar could be an insult to the way Australians of modern day are represented. The theme of the story is about "change". Changing for the the better, it seems. Edit: I have just watched someone read the book on youtube. What an absolute ridiculous reason to be "researching" for problems in a children's book. A lack of diversity? I would be sure that the caterpillars of the world do not give a damn.

It continues to be true some vague statement was made at a university and literally no one is trying to ban this book

I would be concerned if "researchers" are getting funding to pick faults in children's books that nobody gave any concern about in the last 50 years.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:00pm:

I would be concerned if "researchers" are getting funding to pick faults in children's books that nobody gave any concern about in the last 50 years.

I don't think that's remotely what is going on.  this always happens.  A group in a university says something that most people would think is a bit extreme, and the right act as if these people are deciding public policy.  They are not.  I'd like books to become more inclusive of other races, and LGBTQI families.  That doesn't mean I want to ban books that exist today.

Read the article posted on the topic.

"Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral".

If you are getting funding to attack a children's book based on lack of overt political correctness, you are wasting money funded to you by the university. I think I would rather my HECS debt be erased rather than universities funding such woke research.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:09pm:

Read the article posted on the topic. "Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral". If you are getting funding to attack a children's book based on lack of overt political correctness, you are wasting money funded to you by the university. I think I would rather my HECS debt be erased rather than universities funding such woke research.

I would be astonished if the core work they are doing is as you describe.  I also doubt they got paid a lot to read this book once and tick a few boxes

It takes less than 2 minutes to read the book. That could have been a 2 minute power nap so that they could refocus on more important matters to research.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:17pm:

It takes less than 2 minutes to read the book. That could have been a 2 minute power nap so that they could refocus on more important matters to research.

Precisely my point.  No one spent a fortune on this

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 8:00am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 7:58am: Nah. I'm a Celibate male. It's a 'beautiful' life. Where I've jumped upon the horse of Celibacy and rode into the sunset to serve the great cause. While the 'sexually dysfuntional' fall off the horse to kiss the dirty upon the 'other side'. They always make a 'poof' sound when they hit the ground. I believe the word you want is incel.... Wait, you're a proud boy? HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

Gee. Did you get that from American Media? ::)
So you see a Karen as an angry white woman in America.
I see a Karen as a people of Cambodia/Laos.
...I think my interpretation of Celibacy is a bit more proactive than your lame incel remark, because its about 'Choice'.
So this is how you confront the facts? Lefty media 'stupid' interpretations with the latest fad insults that have a used-by-date of just a few years.  ::)

I think you need to do better than that if you want to deal with a 'Celibate' male like me.

Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:33pm:

I think you need to do better than that if you want to deal with a 'Celibate' male like me.

It's all fine with me, I see now why you're always in a poo mood.....

Also Mr Future Left.

I neither agree with 'extremist' Left or Right, but I do 'accept' that both exist.
I'm a middle-stump bowler - no 'wides' out to the off or on-side, from me.
I enjoy when Left and Right work together like the hemispheres of the brain working together.
Unlike the 'extremists' who are 'half-wits' for lack of co-operation and taking 'Anti' views instead.

You wanna be 'extremist' Left and be 'Anti-Right' - go ahead, but do take it on the chin and show some character.
There are always more than just one right answer to a problem on this planet... and there's more than just the 'Media' that is at play and is justified.

It's a big world. Bigger than just being Left or Right.

Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Also Mr Future Left. I neither agree with 'extremist' Left or Right, but I do 'accept' that both exist. I'm a middle-stump bowler - no 'wides' out to the off or on-side, from me. I enjoy when Left and Right work together like the hemispheres of the brain working together. Unlike the 'extremists' who are 'half-wits' for lack of co-operation and taking 'Anti' views instead. You wanna be 'extremist' Left and be 'Anti-Right' - go ahead, but do take it on the chin and show some character. There are always more than just one right answer to a problem on this planet... and there's more than just the 'Media' that is at play and is justified. It's a big world. Bigger than just being Left or Right.

The extreme left want everyone to have food.  the extreme right want to kill trans kids and Muslims.  This whole thread is about extreme right bullshit.  Only the right ban books

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 12:57am:

Oh, I dunno - my kids know the difference between truth and bullshit.....

there you go, they're already smarter than you then

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 7:45am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 6th, 2022 at 9:50pm: Sounds more like over-achievers Mothra. Sex with vaginas and penises is not diverse enough. Diverse with anuses and mouths, maybe animals too, eh? I love the insecure right assuming that anyone who has a real sex life will bugger animals.  Who in the bugger isn't getting a blow job or eating pussy (speaking as a male)?  Who isn't trying to bugger their woman up the arse?  You have a sad life

he has no life. Lives out the back of his car, or couch surfing, can't hold a job for longer than a few weeks and his (ex) wife ditched him years ago because he couldn't keep it in his pants.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 1:44pm: So let's move on from books that represent a different world? I mean, sure, let's do that Quote: “The Very Hungry Caterpillar,” published in 1969, was welcomed by parents and delighted kids with its story of the metamorphosis of a green and red caterpillar with a touch of blue and brown to a proudly multi-colored butterfly. Source I forget what the story was about, seeing that it has been 38 years since I last heard it read to me. But, 1969 was a very different era in Australia than it is today. 95% of Australians were caucasian. I do not see how The Very Hungry Caterpillar could be an insult to the way Australians of modern day are represented. The theme of the story is about "change". Changing for the the better, it seems. Edit: I have just watched someone read the book on youtube. What an absolute ridiculous reason to be "researching" for problems in a children's book. A lack of diversity? I would be sure that the caterpillars of the world do not give a damn.

I read it to my granddaughter about 3 weeks ago. Good read for a 4YO no problem with it at all. Then she showed me her favourite scary YouTube videos on my tablet.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 1:53pm: FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 1:44pm: So let's move on from books that represent a different world? I mean, sure, let's do that Quote: “The Very Hungry Caterpillar,” published in 1969, was welcomed by parents and delighted kids with its story of the metamorphosis of a green and red caterpillar with a touch of blue and brown to a proudly multi-colored butterfly. Source I forget what the story was about, seeing that it has been 38 years since I last heard it read to me. But, 1969 was a very different era in Australia than it is today. 95% of Australians were caucasian. I do not see how The Very Hungry Caterpillar could be an insult to the way Australians of modern day are represented. The theme of the story is about "change". Changing for the the better, it seems. Edit: I have just watched someone read the book on youtube. What an absolute ridiculous reason to be "researching" for problems in a children's book. A lack of diversity? I would be sure that the caterpillars of the world do not give a damn. I read it to my granddaughter about 3 weeks ago. Good read for a 4YO no problem with it at all. Then she showed me her favourite scary YouTube videos on my tablet.

i  must have read it to my kids a thousand times.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 2:45pm: Also Mr Future Left. I neither agree with 'extremist' Left or Right, but I do 'accept' that both exist. I'm a middle-stump bowler - no 'wides' out to the off or on-side, from me. I enjoy when Left and Right work together like the hemispheres of the brain working together. Unlike the 'extremists' who are 'half-wits' for lack of co-operation and taking 'Anti' views instead. You wanna be 'extremist' Left and be 'Anti-Right' - go ahead, but do take it on the chin and show some character. There are always more than just one right answer to a problem on this planet... and there's more than just the 'Media' that is at play and is justified. It's a big world. Bigger than just being Left or Right. The extreme left want everyone to have food.  the extreme right want to kill trans kids and Muslims.  This whole thread is about extreme right bullshit.  Only the right ban books

What absolute bullshit - get that help.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

The extreme left want everyone to have food.

Yet they instinctively defend the CCP for starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying, incompetently, to distribute food equally. There is obviously something they consider to be more important than having food to eat.

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:06am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 2:48pm: The extreme left want everyone to have food.  Yet they instinctively defend the CCP for starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying, incompetently, to distribute food equally. There is obviously something they consider to be more important than having food to eat.

This is simply a lie.  It's intersting that China is now the only superpower and you want to keep criticising them for the 1950s

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:06am:

Yet they instinctively defend the CCP for starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying, incompetently, to distribute food equally.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


did you spend to much time under water without oxygen again?

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:13am:

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2022 at 10:06am: FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 2:48pm: The extreme left want everyone to have food.  Yet they instinctively defend the CCP for starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying, incompetently, to distribute food equally. There is obviously something they consider to be more important than having food to eat. This is simply a lie.  It's intersting that China is now the only superpower and you want to keep criticising them for the 1950s

Well - that's nonsense... there is far more power in a stable and civilised society than in a despotic one.  It's a superpower with a rag-tag army, a rag-tag navy, and a rag-tag air force, an inability to project real force except against weaker and non-warlike nations, and it only exists due to the lack of desire of the ROTW to stamp it out, but to continue trading for profit (for some).

NEVER mistake an unwillingness to fight for an inability to fight...... there is a huge difference.

Putin and Xi are the wakeup calls the ROTW needs.... when the chups were shown to be down, Nu Zulland came into the side of its mates..... Jacinda bared her teeth to the Chinese invaders to the north east with their dollar diplomacy and  cash supremacism and control.

Those Pacific nations must be laughing into the palm of their hand over the silliness of China in handing them millions.. when the chups are down, they will side with those of us they know they can trust. and who have saved them from Oriental despotism in the past.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:09pm:

"Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUXIlQAWAAEdlWY?.jpg

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 9:14am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 2:09pm: "Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral". https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUXIlQAWAAEdlWY?.jpg

Typical clueless boomer joke.  Old people always fear things they made up....

You can always rewrite the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlL2cUGE2gw

;D

Lefty attacks everyone and everything and then cries victim... such a leftie classic....  whine enough, carry on enough, name-call everyone enough, and one day someone will give you what you want.

Lefties are like small children throwing a tantrum until someone gives in.  The essence of dealing with a tantrum is to NEVER give in.

Lefty hasn't worked that out yet - but he's (from the pattern easily fits a 'female' - wonder who - like mother - like son) still a kid in school no matter what he says.

Wait for Monday to hear how his 'sex life' went over the weekend.... curfew on internet... restricted 8-5 daily weekdays ... no weekends.... you work it out....

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 9:15am:

Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:14am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 2:09pm: "Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral". https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUXIlQAWAAEdlWY?.jpg Typical clueless boomer joke.  Old people always fear things they made up....

I often wonder what the young girls at the time that I knew who were named Gay call themselves now ?

I just cannot find a problem.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75NQK-Sm1YY

My Granddaughter watched this today. She asked me to find it.

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:06am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 2:48pm: The extreme left want everyone to have food.  Yet they instinctively defend the CCP for starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying, incompetently, to distribute food equally. There is obviously something they consider to be more important than having food to eat.

I don't see the left in general supporters of the CCP.

In fact most of us are unhappy that the Liberals opened the door to the Pacific for the CCP or pushed for them to open sea ports in Australia and then officially approved it.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:15am: Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:14am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7th, 2022 at 2:09pm: "Dr Adam and her team of researches observed the stories and characters from the books and broke them down into stereotypical, gender restrictive, sensitive to gender or gender neutral". https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUXIlQAWAAEdlWY?.jpg Typical clueless boomer joke.  Old people always fear things they made up.... I often wonder what the young girls at the time that I knew who were named Gay call themselves now ?

Nancy?