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Title: Trump the legend Post by Steampipe on May 1st, 2022 at 5:41pm
Trump is a legend.
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by aquascoot on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm
the thing about trump is that he abuses his body , eats crap but still has the energy of an 18 yo on speed.
he did a 4 week tour doing 2 events a day, speaking off the cuff at rallies in 30 different cities for hours at a time and at the end of it , he still looked charged, alive , vital and fired up. he didnt age a bit in 4 years. obama turned into an old man. biden couldnt do 10 % of what trump did without a nap. where does the guy get the energy where does he get the charisma he is a good stand up comdian he is a bit like elon musk he is a force of nature. worth studying |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2022 at 6:45pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
And the bodies of children, allegedly. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2022 at 6:46pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
And STILL, Biden annihilated Trump in the 2020 election ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 1st, 2022 at 6:53pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
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Yes did you know that Trumps super spreader events in Georgia almost certainly resulted in more than 11,780 republican voters not being able to vote in 2020? |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 1st, 2022 at 6:58pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
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Do you know that he didn't pay for most of if any of these events ? |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by John Smith on May 1st, 2022 at 7:02pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D stop sniffing that horse poo you love shoveling |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Mustapha_Khunt on May 1st, 2022 at 7:12pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
That's because he saved all his energy for campaigning. 3 to 4 hour days in the White House, a minimum of three days a week at Bedminster or Mar a' Lago. Apart from ushering Putin and Kim Jong Un into the fold, he did nothing as president. His staff, the ones who weren't getting fired, were too busy cleaning up his almost daily debacles to get anything done. His entire focus was rallying, he lived for it. An hour of talking krap, followed by his disco dance to the YMCA. Totally stage-managed, all fake. That's your man, dear. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Jake Winker Frogen on May 1st, 2022 at 7:14pm
Trump does have energy and confidence, even a sense of humor.
The problem is his ego tells him he does not have to learn anything about the world that is not about Trump. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by walker on May 1st, 2022 at 8:14pm
We could do with a Trump type right now, Biden is either asleep at the wheel or dead in the head.
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 1st, 2022 at 9:35pm Johnnie wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 8:14pm:
Maybe if you could find a Trump type with a small amount of brains, morals, integrity, a conscience or at the least isn't corrupt. Unfortunately that would rule out any republican at this time, not that Trump was ever a republican. At this time Biden is a huge improvement. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by walker on May 1st, 2022 at 10:05pm Dnarever wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 9:35pm:
Just have a look at this link, at least you can understand Trump. https://mobile.twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1519736135202836480 Under Biden's watch we are all doomed. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Laugh till you cry on May 1st, 2022 at 10:34pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
It is no secret. The Donald Trump energy source is lies, McDonald's, and diet coke. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 1st, 2022 at 11:01pm Johnnie wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 10:05pm:
Trumps next term should be served in a cell and his jumpsuit should match his complexion. Americas only criminal President and about the worst President of the lot. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2022 at 9:58am Dnarever wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 11:01pm:
When ducks like you say such outlandishly stupid, triggered nonsense you just PROVE that Trump was a very significant president who has changed politics for a generation, at least, if not longer. A year after Clinton, Dubya, Obama nobody talked about them, certainly not with such fear and loathing as you proggy mongs still talk about Trump. That alone makes him a legend. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:00am Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 9:58am:
Stole money from kids' charities. Legend. “Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.” |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:22am greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:00am:
:D :D Like I said, proggies are twigged by Trump 24/7. His take on that lawsuit? “I am the only person I know, perhaps the only person in history, who can give major money to charity ($19M), charge no expense, and be attacked by the political hacks in New York State. The New York Attorney General is deliberately mischaracterizing this settlement for political purposes,” he claimed. A spokesperson for the Trump Foundation, which began in 1987, said: “Following the 2016 presidential election, the Trump Foundation publicly announced its intention to voluntarily dissolve and distribute all of its remaining funds to charity. Unfortunately, that donation was delayed due to the Attorney General’s politically motivated lawsuit.” Letitia James?? who she? An American lawyer, activist, and politician. She is a member of the Democratic Party and the current Attorney General of New York. So..... "politically motivated lawsuit" is correct, then. Tsk, tsk ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:26am Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:22am:
His take is worthless - he's a lying scumbag who stole from kids' charities. He ultimately admitted to the crimes. Here are his 19 admissions: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=JLJih9v_PLUS_EKSuJs36THzexg==&system=prod Who's the bigger scumbag: a fat old orange prick who steals from kids, or a fat old white prick who defends him in internet forums? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:45am greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:26am:
“I am the only person I know, perhaps the only person in history, who can give major money to charity ($19M), charge no expense, and be attacked by the political hacks in New York State. The New York Attorney General is deliberately mischaracterizing this settlement for political purposes." Drink that in, turd, savour it, roll it around on your palate and then swallow it. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:47am Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:45am:
He steals from charities. Kids' charities. 19 admissions: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=JLJih9v_PLUS_EKSuJs36THzexg==&system=prod |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Mustapha_Khunt on May 2nd, 2022 at 11:56am greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:26am:
Oh my, Greggery, this is unprecedented. Not only does this politician steal funds from poor children, his enablers and apologists praise him for it. When have we ever seen such a deplorable state of affairs? Despicable stuff. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 2nd, 2022 at 12:58pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Yes he really screwed his faculties, so that's how it happened to the poor bugger. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Mustapha_Khunt on May 2nd, 2022 at 5:20pm aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2022 at 6:36pm:
That's true, dear. But he did have a bit of help, no? There's nothing a bit of spray-on tan and blond Hair For Men won't fix. Mr Trump learned that back in his reality TV days. He's not opposed to a bit of plastic surgery too if it comes to that. Ask Ivana. The most honest president ever - period. He's worked on that one. It started as the most honest president, maybe since George Washington. He's honed it down to ever - period. Piers Morgan asked about it. "I'm honest", Mr Trump said, "you're a liar." "Me? Why?" "Because you're fake." To Mr Trump, honesty isn't about telling the truth, it's about saying what you think. Mr Trump thinks he's honest, so he can say that. That's being "real", right? Orange tan, blond Hair For Men, the most honest president ever - period. Say it like you believe it - instant honesty. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm FD wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 5:20pm:
:D :D Like I said, pwoggies are twigged by Trump 24/7. That's the kind of reaction and mindset they are absolutely unable to move on from. They are locked into mindless stupid, their natural habitat. Before Trump they could conceal it (barely) but when it comes to Trump they are completely, helplessly unmoored. Reason was never on their side but when it comes to Trump, they throw away their crutches in gay abandon and howl to the moon and Twatter, stupid and uninhibited. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2022 at 6:45pm As part of a resolution of the lawsuit announced on November 7th, Trump was ordered to pay $2 million, or $250,000, a piece to eight different charities. Those charities are Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. Additionally, Trump was forced to reimburse his namesake foundation $11,525 for sports paraphernalia and champagne purchased at a charity gala, which was added to $1,797,598.30 already in the foundation’s bank account. The combined $1,809,123.30 was split evenly and recently transferred to the eight agreed upon charities. Each charity ended up receiving a total of $476,140.41. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2022 at 8:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 6:45pm:
Everything you, Paki Khunt, Duckwit et al say about Trump just reinforces everything he stands for, turd. Your squealing IS the energy that propels Trump. You bozos are the reason for him. Carry on, you are energising Trump. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2022 at 9:28pm Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 8:24pm:
Stealing money from kids' charities. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2022 at 9:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 9:28pm:
You are a silly turd. Everything you say just confirms that. You are not taken seriously, nothing you say is taken seriously. You are not an honest observer and commentator. Nor is paki khunt, bbwian, duckwit and the rest of you. None of you have minds of your own. You are all khunts in an uncannily similar way. We see it. You probably see it, too. A collective of khunts - with apologies to the lady posters. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 2nd, 2022 at 9:56pm Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 8:24pm:
reinforcing zero is like multiplying with it. You still get nothing. Trump Has never stood for anything but Trump. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 2nd, 2022 at 10:00pm Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 8:24pm:
Behind closed doors even the snivelling Republican cowards know what a monster Trump really is. They were even recorded telling us and then lying about it. Trumps support is slowly but surely going down the drain. Even the Trump nut squad is working it out. Many from the Trump base are now wondering aloud if Trump is still the answer or if he is just too derisive and / or too poisonous. The Trump crime family may be yesterdays threat. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Mustapha_Khunt on May 3rd, 2022 at 2:13am greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 9:28pm:
It's incorrigible, Greggery, it's almost unbelievable. And are there people in this thread defending him for it? This is serious. I think we need to get to the bottom of this once and for all. Defending charity fraud? Our very civilisation may be be stake. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by walker on May 3rd, 2022 at 3:04am
A non politician rides in on his white horse, tramples a Clinton, turns the establishment on its head and kicks the entire medias arse so hard they are still reeling. Legendary stuff right there.
I cant see old Joe achieving any legendary status before he dies, many are saying he is dead already. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by aquascoot on May 3rd, 2022 at 5:21am Johnnie wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 3:04am:
yes, he was the paradigm shift. one of the most significant humans ever to walk the planet. cadaver joe, gweggy and mustafa....not so much |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2022 at 6:23am NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes: “Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.” |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by aquascoot on May 3rd, 2022 at 9:21am
It is amazing that someone could be so mediocre that they would bounce out of bed in the morning
And devote their day to thinking about trump I assure you trump is not bouncing out of bed thinking about Gregory Gregory is basically wasting his time The same cannot be said for the big fella |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 3rd, 2022 at 9:31am
Trump was dishonest and corrupt. He was a poor leader in fact not a president at all. He was twice impeached the first for running an extortion ring out of the oval office the second for insurrection.
He both accepted and asked for support from Russia in his election campaigns. He was on side with all the worlds worst actors, all the Authoritarian leaders like himself. He is the only President to not pass leadership peacefully or with a shred of dignity and in fact attempted insurrection instead. Trump undermined the constitution and tried to destroy democracy in the USA. Trump an admitted sexual assaulter and accused paedophile was never a person suitable for public office. Trump governed for Trump. Trump has been a failure at everything he has ever done including at being the failed President that he was. Trump is a far away from being a legend as it is possible to get. He is rated in the bottom 3 president for good well deserved reasons. Donald Trump and a heap of his family and cronies all belong in prison. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by aquascoot on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am
America has been in decline since the 60s
Trump was the nation's last-gasp attempt to reduce the size and influence of government And set people back on the path of self reliance and personal responsibility which made America great in the first place Trump attempted to break up the pathological establishment But it was always going to be an impossible miracles pull off When the population have had it so good for so long Getting them to break out of the state of infantile responsibility And break out of the inertia of chode purgatory is nigh on impossible It seems certain now that the American experiment is over What will replace it is now the big question |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Tap on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:05am |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:19am aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am:
Presidents who don't steal money from kids' charities, hopefully. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Tap on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:31am Tap wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am: A good way to keep his fat orange ass out of prison. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Tap on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:33am |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Laugh till you cry on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:33am
His diaper is still full.
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Tap on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:43am |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2022 at 12:11pm NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes: “Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.” |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by aquascoot on May 3rd, 2022 at 12:18pm
trump bounces out of bed, uses his gold toilet, plays a round of golf with some awesome peers, engages in some locker room talk, has a blast, buzzes off his own awesomneness, has some wild sex, talks to the masses of adoring fans , sees he owes a few million and pulls that out of his back pocket without even noticing.
what a great day he has had. so meaningful gweggy posts about trump owing 2 million ( a lot of cash to a chode) he posts about it 110,000 times. he has no spare time to earn his own millions, play golf or develop an ecosystem of awesome sexy people. he goes to bed alone and frustrated . trumps never heard of him what a terrible day he has had so meaningless |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2022 at 12:19pm NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes: “Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.” |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2022 at 12:26pm Noam Chomsky: Well, there is, fortunately, one statesman in the United States and Europe, a high political figure, who has made a very sensible statement about how you can solve the crisis. Namely, by facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe, in which there are no military alliances, but just mutual accommodation. He didn’t say it, but it was something like George H.W. Bush proposed in the early-90s after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Proposed what they called a partnership for peace, which would be open for Europeans generally, Eurasians as well, it wouldn’t eliminate NATO, but he would live to the promise that NATO would not expand to the east. Firm promise to Gorbachev. Keep to that. Allow NATO there, but kind of deemphasize it so other countries could join, including Russia, for that matter, and move toward a Eurasia with no military alliances. I think DeGaul had a similar vision. Emmanuel Macron, in his initiatives trying to contact Putin, suggested something similar. So, going back to the one Western statesman, he didn’t mention all of this, but he suggested something similar. Move towards negotiations and diplomacy instead of escalating the war. Try to see if we can bring about accommodation, which would be roughly along these lines. His name is Donald J. Trump. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1520751923355398144 Trump - legend. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2022 at 12:27pm As part of a resolution of the lawsuit announced on November 7th, Trump was ordered to pay $2 million, or $250,000, a piece to eight different charities. Those charities are Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. Additionally, Trump was forced to reimburse his namesake foundation $11,525 for sports paraphernalia and champagne purchased at a charity gala, which was added to $1,797,598.30 already in the foundation’s bank account. The combined $1,809,123.30 was split evenly and recently transferred to the eight agreed upon charities. Each charity ended up receiving a total of $476,140.41. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by aquascoot on May 3rd, 2022 at 1:20pm
trump bounces out of bed and tweets.
millions of people engage. gweggy bounces out of bed and posts no one notices (especially not the big fella) |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2022 at 2:24pm Additionally, as part of the settlement, Trump was required to agree to 19 admissions, acknowledging his personal misuse of funds at the Trump Foundation, and agreed to restrictions on future charitable service and ongoing reporting to the Office of the Attorney General, in the event he creates a new charity. The settlement also included mandatory training requirements for Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump, which the three children have already undergone. Finally, the settlement required the Trump Foundation to shutter its doors last December and dissolve under court supervision. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 3rd, 2022 at 5:58pm aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 1:20pm:
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Trump hasn't tweeted anything in 15 months ? Trump even failed at twitter. Just like everything else. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Mustapha_Khunt on May 3rd, 2022 at 6:11pm aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am:
Incorrect. Figures show consistent GDP growth in the US since 1948. https://www.statista.com/statistics/996758/rea-gdp-growth-united-states-1930-2019/ The only times US economic growth has dropped to below 0% since the 60s is 1973 (the oil shocks), 1981 (Latin American loans crisis), 1991 ("credit crunch"), 2008 (GFC) and 2019 (covid). Trump made no attempts to reduce the size and influence of government. Trump added over 8 trillion dollars to US government debt in less than one term, even before covid 19, wiping out the gains made during the slow GFC recovery. Trump's own budget office called it a "national debt crisis". Trump's presidency was the biggest spending administration in US history. https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump His solution? Increase tariffs. Trump believed his trade wars would bring in revenue, paying off debt "like water". This never happened. The revenue was dished out to farmers and small manufacturers, and ultimately, the money came from American consumers anyway. Trump's trade wars turned into the ever-increasing tax-and-spend cycle that had led to the GATT and all the previous work done on reducing tariffs in the past half century. In one administration, Trump upended global supply chains, disrupted the global financial system and created inflation even before covid. Far from any election rigging, Biden got many of his votes from the farmers and manufacturers hit hardest by Trump's trade wars, particularly in the swing states Trump contested, such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. As dysfunctional and destructive as it was, this was the election Trump wanted to fight: the economy and global trade. This was before covid hit and Trump turned into an even bigger spender, desperately trying to save his political skin. Trump's original strategy was to ignore the pandemic to keep trade talks going with China, who he originally praised for working closely with the US. When Trump couldn't pretend anymore, he reversed to blame the pandemic on China, trying to draw attention away from his own mismanagement of what he called the "Chi-na virus". You know the rest of the story. Bleach injections, heat and light, refusing to be seen in a face mask, catching and spreading covid, spruiking fake cures and the daily, ever-increasing death toll. The Trump presidency became an even bigger joke than anyone could have ever imagined, you couldn't make it up. Ultimately, there was the election defeat, the silence, the legal attempts, the humiliating attempts to cling to power at all costs. The plots, the threats, the insurrection. It just went on and on. But do you know? I think we should remember Trump at his best, as the instigator of trade wars. This, after all, is how he really wanted to be seen: the great disrupter, the destroyer, preening to the chants of his followers: "smash it up." Trump was the embodiment of the pathological establishment you describe. He allowed government debt to increase by a third. He undermined decades of tariff reduction and work on free trade, weakening the US and global economy. He stood by as covid hit, showing his arrogance, naked self-interest and inability to lead in a crisis. Far from being into small government, Trump imagined grand projects, infrastructure schemes to rival FDR, a great, big beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, and "as you know, I can build things, believe me". This is how I think we should judge Trump: on what he promised. None of it came to fruition, not even close. Today, after the corporate tax cuts, the trade wars and all the covid stimulus costs, the US is left with nothing in the bank. No great new highways, no big beautiful walls, and a mountain of debt. The US has not been in decline since the 60s, but out of all those recessions from 1973 to 2019, the biggest recession started in 2019. Today, at -3.4%, GDP growth is the lowest it's been since 1946. https://www.statista.com/chart/24056/annual-real-gdp-growth-in-the-united-states/ Trump came to power in 2016 with a modest 1.6% GDP growth figure, which grew to 2.7% for the first two years of his administration due to Reserve Bank and Obama-era policies, and the result of an improving housing and employment market, eight years after the GFC. What happened next, however, has nothing to do with covid or the Reserve Bank. World Bank figures show a drop in growth of 0.86% from 2018 to 2019, prior to any hit from covid. This was the emerging effect of Trump's trade wars. And after covid, of course, it has been in freefall ever since. America has not been in decline since the 60s, but it may well be now. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 3rd, 2022 at 7:05pm aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am:
Apart from pre election 2016 rhetoric Trump made no attempt to do anything to reduce either the size or influence of government. Trump had 4 years to keep some of his commitments but went out to play golf instead. About the only think that Trump did do was to give the wealthiest Americans an unaffordable and unfunded $2 Trillion tax cut. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 3rd, 2022 at 7:11pm Quote:
maybe a legend in his own urine ? |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:37pm aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am:
America has been accommodating all its enemies since the 60s. No other great power has ever had that strategy - and now America the Accommodating stands for nothing you can believe in. The barbarians are inside the gates and are destroying the city. With eager help from the inhabitants. Accommodating the whole range of toxic loons, from Greta to Xi ping Pong and Putin and the muslims and the EU, etc - no credibility, only weakness and lack of confidence. And once your lack of confidence is in evidence you are fkkd. America without American confidence is hicksville nothing. That's why Jan 6 2021 was such an American day. It was another Boston Tea Party. A bit too muted, but the spirit was there. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:02pm Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:37pm:
The Romans did. Vastly multicultural society. And all the richer for it. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:07pm mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:02pm:
You are an ignorant, thick, resentful old bag. Don't try the 'oh, I know' wheeze because you don't know. You are thick AND ignorant and you try to make up for it by being loud. Doesn't work. Rome tolerated other cultures as long as they SUBMITTED to Rome. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:11pm Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:07pm:
Rubbish. Ancient Rome was heavily infused with the cultures it absorbed into it's fold. Successful multiculturalism. In any case, those living in the US are required to submit to US law. Your argument is meaningless. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:44pm
Which of the following have not been a primary Republican talking point that they have used in place of policies or to cover the fact that they have no policies ?
1) Mr Potato Head 2) Dr Seuss 3) Mr Ed 4) M&M's A: ? Yes believe it or not all these but for 1 were the dominant Republican talking points. People wonder why nobody takes them seriously. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Mustapha_Khunt on May 4th, 2022 at 1:36am mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:11pm:
That's an argument, Mothra. You're forgetting to state the case. The old boy is a bitter, resentful old hag, as every schoolboy knows. We decide who comes to our country and the circumstances in which they come. The old boy's just a miserable old multicultural interloper. A country-shopper par excellence. When in Rome, no? |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by mothra on May 4th, 2022 at 2:33am FD wrote on May 4th, 2022 at 1:36am:
Frank? Go to Rome? Never! He doesn't think they're white there. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 4th, 2022 at 8:53am mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:11pm:
It is moronic to label ancient Rome multicultural, an evidently modern term describing a completely different political and social setting. PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS 20120224-Christian_Martyrs_in_Colosseum.jpg Christian martyrs in the ColosseumUnder Roman rule, Christians were denied business opportunities and status in society, prohibited from worshiping, attacked by mobs, persecuted, tortured and killed in organized campaigns by the Romans government. The Roman historian Tacitus accused them of "hatred of the human race." The Book of Revelation was written in response to the Roman persecutions. Christians sometimes had their foreheads tattooed by Romans (some Christian slaves carried religion symbols to counteract images inscribed on them by their Roman masters) or were condemned to work in mines. In the worst cases, they were arrested and given the choice of recanting their faith or facing execution, with some being thrown to hungry lions in the Coliseum and other arenas. Tacitus wrote Christians, "were nailed on crosses...sewn up in the skins of wild beasts, and exposed to the fury of dogs; others again, smeared over with combustible materials, were used as torches to illuminate the night." Due to persecution, Christians met in secret primarily in the houses of wealthy members. This only seemed to raise the level of hostility against them. Because early Christians held services "behind closed doors" at night instead of during the day in open temples like the Roman they were accused of having orgies and engaging in cannibalism (partly from a misinterpretation of the practice of Communion). The Romans demanded that their gods be worshipped, but at the same time they received the local gods. The reason the Jews and Christian were persecuted is that they presented a threat and refused to worship the Roman gods. Judaism and Christianity were not the only religions in the Roman empire. Mithraism, Manichaeism, Gnosticism and many others were practiced. There were lots of other strange religions around — Manichaeans, Donatist, Pelagians, Arians. Subjects from all religions were expected to make sacrifices to the Roman gods and worship the Roman emperor as a god. Etc, etc, etc https://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub405/entry-6292.html |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Marla on May 4th, 2022 at 9:26am
Trump the pussy
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Dnarever on May 4th, 2022 at 9:41am
Trump would be the worst person to ever be President.
There is not even a contest. There is no prospective second place. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Mustapha_Khunt on May 4th, 2022 at 2:25pm mothra wrote on May 4th, 2022 at 2:33am:
Calabrian dagos. Inferior subspecies, innit. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by walker on May 4th, 2022 at 2:39pm
Trump is a legend like The Phantom.
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 4th, 2022 at 2:48pm Johnnie wrote on May 4th, 2022 at 2:39pm:
A fictional character. Yes, good comparison [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by walker on May 4th, 2022 at 2:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 4th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
They both stand for truth and justice. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 4th, 2022 at 3:23pm
A glimpse into the pwogwessive 'mind'.
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by greggerypeccary on May 4th, 2022 at 3:51pm Johnnie wrote on May 4th, 2022 at 2:54pm:
;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Frank on May 4th, 2022 at 4:05pm mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:02pm:
Total bollocks. But I am not surprised they taught you such nonsense in you Bachelor of Social Work Studies course and that you actually imbibed such crap. Rome conquered, captured slaves and extracted tributes. It wasn't 'nation building' or celebrated diversity and all that guff. It persecuted anyone who did not submit to Roman gods and accepted that the Emperor was also a god. Idiots like you remove statues and besmirch everything pre-1968 because people a century or two ago didn't think exactly like you do. But in the next breath, just to ensure that your idiocy doesn't go unnoticed, you say eye-wateringly stupid things like Ancient Rome was a 'vastly multicultural society', ie they thought about such things like you do!!!! Your vehement, blind ignorance is amazing. |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by mothra on May 5th, 2022 at 8:03am Frank wrote on May 4th, 2022 at 4:05pm:
Poor old boy. I know it pleases you no end to think Ancient Rome was a monoculture that persecuted all deviance from the established ways ( your Utopia) but in reality, it was a great melting pot of food, culture, clothing, music, religion and customs. Aside from all of the influences from all of the lands it conquered and invaded, there were four black Emperors. "As the Empire expanded, it took control of new countries that had their own cultures and their own gods. In Egypt, Isis was a goddess of fertility; she was also a mother and a symbol of death and rebirth. She therefore combined the duties of several Roman goddesses, including Cybele, Aphrodite and Demeter. The trade and travel that was integral to the Roman Empire made it easy for the worship of gods to spread abroad and Isis came to be worshipped across the Empire. In the same way, the Persian god Mithras was popular with the Roman legions – many of whose soldiers had served in Persia – and shrines to him have been found in Britain, Syria, and across North Africa. Such was the effect of a multicultural Empire that spanned continents and countries." https://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/empire/gods.html |
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Title: Re: Trump the legend Post by Lisa Ross on May 5th, 2022 at 8:23am mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:11pm:
Dear Lord that's just utter rubbish AND insanity! Frank just leave IT to believe ITS delusions. IT will post whatever IT has quickly GOOGLED. IT has NO formal qualifications OR a job. |
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