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Member Run Boards >> Environment >> Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1649510505 Message started by Baronvonrort on Apr 9th, 2022 at 11:21pm |
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Title: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 9th, 2022 at 11:21pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 10th, 2022 at 11:57am Quote:
So every year billions of birds around the world die from collisions with buildings But for some reason conservatives are only concerned with the birds that collide with wind farms I wonder why there concern is so narrowly targeted? ;) It always amuses me when conservatives suddenly become conservationists when it suits their political agenda. It shows what hypocrites they are |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by lee on Apr 10th, 2022 at 12:22pm The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 11:57am:
Because buildings are static. I have no problem with birds colliding with wind towers being killed. ;) |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by Dnarever on Apr 10th, 2022 at 12:29pm
They never mention that many more birds are killed in oil production and accidents each year either or from other forms of power production.
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 10th, 2022 at 1:08pm
Jail over killing of eagles in a Victorian first
Murray James Silvester faced Sale Magistrates Court on Monday morning charged over the deaths of the protected birds of prey. He was found guilty of the death of 420 wedge-tailed eagles in East Gippsland between October 2016 and February this year, and sentenced to 14 days in jail and fined $2500. It's understood to be the first custodial sentence for the destruction of protected wildlife handed out in Victoria. The Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning has been investigating the deaths since uncovering scores of dead eagles at the Tubbut property in May. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/jail-over-killing-of-eagles-in-a-victorian-first-20180924-p505r4.html There was very little interest from conservatives either when this news story surfaced. many of them claimed it was fake news and didn't happen |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 10th, 2022 at 1:11pm
Paint one blade black and no more birds killed.
{Oops} Forgot about Booby’s permanent ban of me from this toilet of an MRB. |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by lee on Apr 10th, 2022 at 3:33pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
It is so easy why hasn't it been done? |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by lee on Apr 10th, 2022 at 3:33pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 12:29pm:
So you have the stats for that? |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10th, 2022 at 3:49pm The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service reports that 2,303 "visibly oiled" dead birds were collected "within the Deepwater Horizon/BP incident impact area." The biggest cause of bird deaths, however, is not man — at least not in the United States. It is cats. One study claimed that cats responsible for killing about 2.4 billion — with a "B" — birds a year. |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by lee on Apr 10th, 2022 at 4:11pm
I have just been reading a paper on Bird deaths from power generation.
Strangely they include bird deaths from fossil fuel to acid rain and climate change. ::) Everyon knows birds can't move due to climate shackled as they are. It concludes - "The shortcomings of this preliminary study are as obvious as they are numerous: a focus on bird deaths but not bird births; a small sample size for wind, coal, and nuclear facilities that may not be representative; a focus on individual species such as the wood thrush or waterfowl to produce overall estimates of avian mortality that are definitely not representative (and undoubtedly conservative); a presumption that coal was only mined using mountain top removal (thereby excluding the impacts from other types of coal mining); fatalities that happened on particular days and weeks that were then presumed to be the only ones throughout the year (also resulting in conservative estimates); an assumption that only carbon dioxide emissions from power plants contribute to climate change (again conservative for excluding other greenhouse gases); highly uncertain deaths attributed to climate change that may be prevented if future greenhouse gas emissions are significantly reduced." http://sci-hub.ee/10.1016/j.renene.2012.01.074 |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by walker on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:14pm
Unfortunately some the birds are going to have to take for the good of the planet.
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:41pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
That's interesting. I've never heard about that before. https://youtu.be/O4irXQhgMqg |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by Bobby. on Apr 11th, 2022 at 7:21am Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
Wow - Monk got me banned for one week for a post on his forum. I think I'll show my Christian forgiveness to prove that I'm better than Monk by not reporting him. Monk is possessed by devils. |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 11th, 2022 at 11:15am greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 3:49pm:
Which is still actually caused by man given that we have bred cats as pets Johnnie wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:14pm:
Given the number of birds killed by all human activities and structures, the number killed by wind farms is negligible I'll look forward to seeing Baronvonrort out at the start of the next Duck shooting season protecting the birds ;D |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by John_Taverner on Aug 7th, 2022 at 2:56pm
How many birds are killed by vehicles by comparison.
I remember accidentally running into a flock of galahs once. (I don't mean this forum) |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 7th, 2022 at 3:39pm Quote:
https://electrek.co/2020/08/21/wind-turbines-bird-friendly-black-blade/#:~:text=A%20study%20from%20the%20Norwegian,by%20the%20blades%20by%2072%25. Problem solvered |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by lee on Aug 7th, 2022 at 4:00pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7th, 2022 at 3:39pm:
Still all those deaths. Not so solvered. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D "And so, in 2013, each of the four turbines in the test group had a single blade painted black. In the three years that followed, only six birds were found dead due to striking their turbine blades. By comparison, 18 bird deaths were recorded by the four control wind turbines—a 71.9-percent reduction in the annual fatality rate." https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/08/black-paint-on-wind-turbines-helps-prevent-bird-massacres/ Wow. Such a large sample size. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by Belgarion on Aug 7th, 2022 at 4:11pm
I see the 'renewables' apologists have changed their mantra from 'no birds are killed by wind turbines' to 'but more are killed by buildings/oil wells /cats or whatever...' ::)
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Title: Re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing birds Post by John Smith on Aug 7th, 2022 at 4:18pm lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2022 at 4:00pm:
they haven't solved the problem off your stupidity and psychologists have been working on that far longer than they have preventing bird deaths from windmills |
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