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Title: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 8th, 2022 at 4:21pm |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 8th, 2022 at 5:48pm
Who gives a pharqe?
This is what amuses me...... Quote:
Where does he get a name like that? ;D More clutching at straws Bwyan. ::) ![]() |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gordon on Apr 8th, 2022 at 5:51pm
The older it's shown Aboriginal culture is the more embarrassing it is for them, as it means it longer they achieved basically nothing.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 8th, 2022 at 5:53pm Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2022 at 5:51pm:
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 8th, 2022 at 6:16pm
.... and wipe that Smirke off the screen....
Seriously - this may have a tiny amount of historical value, but nothing more.... ''long long ago in a time lost to memory... a noble race arose and built nothing, preferring to sit on it and enjoy the ambience of the countryside... and then out of the West arose a great warrior ... a pillar of virtue and strength and with his loyal thanes, The Great Warrior set about saving the Black Man from himself..... and restoring civilisation long lost since antiquity when a noble race of scholars and scientists ruled the Earth..... and among the retinue of The Warrior were men of learning and arcane knowledge...... and taught they the inhabitants to build houses, fish in tinnies with rods, hunt with guns,and drive Land Cruisers... and still the Inhabitants remained beggars and slaves to their own darker side and to their fists and their demon god Booze..." |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 9th, 2022 at 10:53am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2022 at 4:21pm:
Prehistoric humans sheltered in caves a long time ago. How is that a 'sacred site's?m A recent excavation of the Yirra site proves Yinhawangka people have lived in the region for more than 50,000 years Yinhawangka Aboriginal Corporation's Halloway Smirke says the findings reaffirm what traditional owners knew all along So Aborigines actually measured times in years and news about the 50,000 years 'all along'?? Preposterous nonsense. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 9th, 2022 at 10:57am Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2022 at 10:53am:
You know darned well that's all that appeals to Bwyan. ;D |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 9th, 2022 at 11:03am
A long history or raping, murdering and eating children.
Just tell me that never happened. You can't because it did happen and other than the Cannibalism, it still does. Rape and murder is wonderful for Brian |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 9th, 2022 at 11:24am Matty, Matty you still haven't produced any evidence, no links about Cannibalism occurring in 1970s or later. Therefore you're talking bullshit. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Dnarever on Apr 9th, 2022 at 12:08pm Quote:
It was almost certainly the very first web site created ? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 9th, 2022 at 1:05pm
You know you are being fed another Demidenko/Pascoe when they use a name like "Yinhawangka" .... the yen to learn how to wank...
Many academics are on the autism scale...................... maybe this sacred site was like Stonehenge and they sacrificed virgins or something at change of seasons... it was a great honour to be murdered and eaten... |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 10th, 2022 at 4:14pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2022 at 11:24am:
OK smartarse - tell me the exact date they stopped eating children |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:02pm Boris wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 4:14pm:
Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:04pm
I was there in the NT when it was discussed at the Hospital.
It has happened in my lifetime and as far as I know it has stopped. But they still rape and murder children. End of conversation |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm
How convenient, Matty. Much easier to declare it over once your lost the argument, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:52pm
I was there I know it happened
You were not there and you know nothing |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 10th, 2022 at 8:41pm Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 12th, 2022 at 8:32am
I was there I know it happened
You were not there and you know nothing They rape and murder children right now every single day They ate people in my lifetime You tell me when they stopped |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 12th, 2022 at 1:46pm Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 12th, 2022 at 2:49pm Boris wrote on Apr 9th, 2022 at 11:03am:
You know, in pre-1800s Europe, if a baby was born looking retarded or out of place somehow, the people would kill it. No one shed a tear. Perhaps the murder of children was common there as it was for indigenous Australian children. And rape of children was common in any premodern society. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 12th, 2022 at 2:59pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12th, 2022 at 1:46pm:
If I may say something. Were not indigenous Australians subjected to prejudice and oppressive policies prior to the 1970s? Given that indigenous people did not have it easy more than 50 years ago, we could entertain the possibility that food sources might have been a rare thing at certain stages that the possibility of cannibalism could have happened many decades ago. The Japanese, faced with starvation, were reported to have cannibalised the natives of the island that the Japanese soldiers were on. The Japanese in the 1940s were a technologically advanced society with a decent (albeit racist) culture of law and societal order. In times of desperation, people will revert to barbarism. Boris is making a claim that he saw this act of cannibalism happen. And since Boris can't and won't provide details pertaining to this barbaric act, we can only take his word about the act of cannibalism among indigenous people in the 1970s, until there is something substantiated either way. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 12th, 2022 at 3:30pm
I was in Alice Springs working at the Hospital and the Doctors were discussing it in front of the staff. Many of the Doctors also went back and forth to PNG where it is widespread and as Hospital staff we had to work with these people none the less.
It ended in the 70s as far as I know but wild blacks who never even knew of White people were still being found and brought in even in the mid 80s and they were all Cannibals. They were Cannibals - but the argument is when they stopped. It does not matter because they still rape and murder children. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 12th, 2022 at 3:31pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 12th, 2022 at 2:59pm:
I have not discounted the possibility that cannibalism occurred. I am demanding proof that it occurred before issuing judgement, unlike Matty and the usual cohort of Racists who automatically condemn Indigenous Australians without any real proof offered apart from Matty's proclamations. As far as he and the other Racists are concerned, because Indigenous Australians have dark skins they are automatically condemned. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 12th, 2022 at 3:58pm
I am an eye witness
Your judgement has no weight with me because I have worked with Aborigines for decades in the NT and had to clean up their blood and excrement and care for the wounded etc etc etc While you sip Lattes and have all the answers to everything. You are worse than stupid and worse than ignorant - you are detached from reality. Even now they rape and murder children - now, today - yesterday and tomorrow and you spout crap like a beached whale |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 12th, 2022 at 4:11pm Oh dearie, dearie, me, Matty. Is it because I ask for evidence? I have never had a Latte in my life. Your attempts to stereotype me as some sort of Cafe' inhabiting Lefty cannot be further from the truth. I rarely go to Cafes. I only drink Expressos. I have visited many places in the NT. I have met many Indigenous Australians, your attempt to stereotype them is pointless. Without proof, your claims are pointless. They are Racist in the extreme. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 12th, 2022 at 4:24pm
You have never had a latte in your life, Brian? Is that because... you like it black?
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 12th, 2022 at 4:29pm
I lived in the NT for years and worked for the Health Department with Aborigines - I know what I am talking about.
they did eat children - that is Historical fact - they do still rape and murder children and women - that is historical fact. They rape and murder and assault women, children and men at an alarming rate far above the rate for Non Aboriginal people. It is a bloody damn awful mess and its is getting worse and worse by the day. Despite their propensity for violence and crime you want them to be in charge because you are detached from reality |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 12th, 2022 at 4:33pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 12th, 2022 at 4:24pm:
Like my women. Black and strong... ;D |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 12th, 2022 at 4:35pm Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 13th, 2022 at 7:48am
You really are a fool.
Many historical accounts of Cannibalism exist for Aborigines. I worked for the NT Health Department in the 70s. Cannibalism was discussed as an existing issue - the same as what is now PNG because the same Doctors were going back and forth dealing with the same issues. That is the fact and I was personally involved - so I do not have to prove anything - all I have to do is speak the truth which I do. Women in the NT are being raped and murdered in the NT at rates that are off the scale and also children and even babies are also being raped and murdered in the NT. But according to you your Sacred Cows are so wonderful and so superior they can do no wrong. To me, with all my experiences and the things I have seen with my own eyes - you are nothing but a bloody fool and what the Soviets would call a "Useful Idiot". You are dangerously deluded with false beliefs and no idea of reality spouting utter crap like your mouth is the exact same as your anus - only excrement come out of it. You are an utter fool |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 13th, 2022 at 10:13am UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 12th, 2022 at 4:24pm:
;D Rocky made a funny |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 13th, 2022 at 10:50am
And then Brian shot me down with a counter heckle. Good going, Brian.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 13th, 2022 at 2:55pm Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 13th, 2022 at 2:59pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 13th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Any time, Rocky... ;D |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 13th, 2022 at 3:57pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13th, 2022 at 2:55pm:
I was there - so I know You would not know crap from clay |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 13th, 2022 at 4:00pm Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 13th, 2022 at 10:40pm
I was there - so I know
They still rape and murder children all the time |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 13th, 2022 at 10:41pm Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 8:27am
I am not making a claim - I was there I know it happened.
When will they stop raping and murdering children? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 14th, 2022 at 9:31am Boris wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 8:27am:
You haven't learnt yet Boris if you argue with a fool there are 2 fools arguing. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 12:28pm Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 14th, 2022 at 12:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 12:28pm:
You do realise, don't you, cockwomble, that you have posted this already a dozen times. Do you? Well, you have, in case your memory has also gone to shite. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 1:35pm Gnads wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 9:31am:
I think Brian has just done a copy and paste reply he has set for Boris. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 1:38pm
Brian, just accept the possibility that Boris has seen for himself the evidence of cannibalism. And accept the possibility that hospitals and police cannot publicly release photos and evidence of these crimes, due to the nature of such acts.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 1:44pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 1:38pm:
Exactly What nobody can say for sure and certain is the exact time Cannibalism actually stopped. They were still bringing in Wild Blacks from the desert into 1984 - and they were cannibals. This reality of Aboriginal Cannibalism is being supressed and it was still going on in Arnhem Land well into the 50s and 60s - in my lifetime and was still going on in the 70s and was widely known and understood with the Health Department as was the case with PNG. It is pretty hard for gentle cream puffs sipping their coffee in the cities to accept the harsh realities of the Outback but as I have lived and worked in the NT since my teen years, I have seen it and evidence of it with my own eyes. People accept the cannibalism of PNG so why not Australian Aborigines? It was rampant in both places. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 2:17pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 1:38pm:
There is no proof of Cannibalism occurring in the 1970s, despite Matty's claims. Therefore I am forced to conclude that he is bullshitting. What I find interesting I am criticised for questioning his claims but he gets away with no criticism. It seems that Soren and others believe what ever they want, simply because Indigenous Australians are dark skinned. They are being Racist in the extreme. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Matty, you're the one whose making the claim they were eating each other in the 1970s. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove your case. We are not all fools (OK, some of us are, I admit) who will accept your claims on face value. I won't do your research for you, Matty. It is up to you to prove your case. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 2:20pm
Brian, you even copied and pasted your prepared reply to Boris in your response to me.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 2:46pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 2:20pm:
Just before you, Matty, made his usual bullshit statement about Cannibalism. Therefore I answered both you and he in one post. It appears you have a problem with me doing that. Tough. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 2:50pm
Yes, I have a problem with your copy and paste responses. It demeans your position about having a counterargument to Boris. Try a different tactic like saying that Alice Springs hospitals/police have no records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 2:58pm Quote:
Source: https://austhrutime.com/aboriginal_mortuary_rites_cannibalism.htm#:~:text=The%20Australian%20Aboriginal%20People%20were,fairly%20commonly%20in%20Aboriginal%20Australia. Also: R. M & C. H. Berndt, 1964, The World of the First Australians, Ure Smith Pty Ltd |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:13pm
Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Rocky. Your own quote hails from the 19th century and it even admits that it's sources are problematic. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:16pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:13pm:
From the 1960s, actually. And it does deal with the fact that cannibalism did exist in Australian indigenous society. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:19pm
Does anyone not believe the Aborigines were Cannibals?
They were and there is plenty of historical evidence and records for this. The Aborigines are even more primitive than the PNG Natives - who had Bows and Arrows. The PNG people still are Cannibals. Even to this day. The question here is when did the Aborigines stop? The Pintupi who were brought in to contact with Mainstream Australia in 1984 were Cannibals. I worked at the Alice Springs Hospital in the 70s and I can tell you Cannibalism was widely known and discussed as an ongoing issue. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:24pm
They still even now rape and murder children
To me that is worse |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:24pm
Are you aged in your 70s, Boris?
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:25pm
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:29pm
Sorry. I was making calculations that if you were working in a hospital in 1979 and were 17 years old, you would be 60 this year. Or you could have started in 1970 and have been 25 at the time and been 77 this year.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 3:45pm
I went to the NT in 1971 when I was 17
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 4:01pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Funny that, despite your claims about it being evident in the 1970s. Produce some evidence or piss off. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 4:13pm
When do you say Cannibalism stopped?
They were still bringing in Wild Blacks from the desert into 1984 - and they were cannibals. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 4:25pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 14th, 2022 at 4:53pm
Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later. Since then they have vanished from all depictions of Aboriginal society, and, if asserted today, would be regarded as the embodiment of racism, and dismissed out of hand. These old and frank depictions of Aboriginal society have been replaced by their opposite: veneration for the indigenous inhabitants of Australia and their society as utopian and pristinely moral, and any trace of the endemic and nightmarishly barbaric world inhabited by the Aborigines found by virtually all early observers here has been totally erased, its depiction as fact wholly taboo.
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2021/09/the-incidence-of-cannibalism-in-aboriginal-society/ |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 5:30pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 14th, 2022 at 7:47pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 5:30pm:
Better yet .... you piss off. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 14th, 2022 at 8:48pm Gnads wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 7:47pm:
You really don't like your Racism being challenged, do you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 15th, 2022 at 12:40am
I think it comes down to justifiable xenophobia, Brian. Why should people respect cannibalism?
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by walker on Apr 15th, 2022 at 2:20am
The Boongs are out of control across OZ and everyone can see it, only the inner city poofs think nothing bad is going on out there in the desert, i hear they are still eating plump babies in the Kimberlie ranges.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 15th, 2022 at 7:22am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 8:48pm:
You're not challenging racism...... you're just choosing to deny & cover up how does some one provide evidence when the evidence has & is being removed by stealth to hide historical fact? Done by sjw dreamers like you so you can wallow in your vision of the noble savage? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by freediver on Apr 15th, 2022 at 7:31am
It's a conspiracy.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by walker on Apr 15th, 2022 at 7:35am
The Abbos need to be rounded up and branded like everyone else.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 15th, 2022 at 9:28am
The Maori were Cannibals - the PNG people still are Cannibals - all the Natives all around Australia were Cannibals - and there is overwhelming historical evidence that the Aboriginals were until recently (my life time) were Cannibals.
So can we all accept this reality? But they still rape and murder children - even babies. This I have seen with my own eyes. I think rape and murder is a terrible thing and it happens to children - even babies - on a daily basis. Is this not terrible? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by walker on Apr 15th, 2022 at 9:50am
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by walker on Apr 15th, 2022 at 9:55am
The Abbos are still a stone age people, evolution has left them behind and it is going to take a millennium or more to bring them up to speed, their Neanderthal features and characteristics will take a while to breed out.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 15th, 2022 at 10:52am
Their birth rate is less than their death rate - so they will soon be extinct
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 15th, 2022 at 1:34pm Boris wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 10:52am:
You sure about that? https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-peoples/estimates-and-projections-aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-australians/latest-release ![]() |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. All you've done is reveal all the Racists. Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:30pm Boris wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 10:52am:
That is a load of bull. Around a regional town, you would estimate about 3 children per aboriginal woman. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:51pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:30pm:
Matty, it looks like your Racism is blinding you to reality. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm
The death rate is higher
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 15th, 2022 at 6:10pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Keep talking through your arse you may be able to put it to music one day if you can vary your tune. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 15th, 2022 at 6:41pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:30pm:
From 4 different fathers.... ? ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:05pm Frank wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 6:41pm:
Rocky has been one of those types ;D |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:36pm Gnads wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
My heart bleeds for you, it really does. Racist. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:43pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:36pm:
Bbbwian is acting like a thoughtful adult, don't you know. Oh, yes. Tsk, tsk, yawn and all that thoughtful intelligent stuff he always provides. Doctor of Theology thoughtfulness. Who takes you seriously, Bbwian?? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 15th, 2022 at 10:34pm Gnads wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:05pm:
Well, you know... sometimes I like my coffee strong, too. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 15th, 2022 at 11:32pm
In the NT Morgues for every 30 year old murdered White person there are 7 Aborigines.
These deaths are usually from violence or substance abuse or disease / infection and all from lifestyle choices. The death rate is higher than the birth rate - so they are making themselves extinct. Rapidly. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 16th, 2022 at 9:15am Boris wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 11:32pm:
The NT is one place. There has been a substantial increase in the population in the last decade with the number of people now identifying as ATSI. And when you get someone as white as this below how will they ever become extinct. Like Stan Grant - she has used "Tan in a Can". https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-21/elliana-lawford-why-i-am-a-proud-white-aboriginal-woman/11794194 ![]() |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 16th, 2022 at 9:49am
2.25 births per indigenous woman.
Source: https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/births-australia/latest-release#:~:text=There%20were%20294%2C369%20registered%20births,was%202.25%20births%20per%20woman. The women are still giving birth to a number of children above the 2.05 children per woman rate that is considered replacement level. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:22pm
The death rate for indigenous people was 5.65 per 100,000 of the general Aboriginal population. The rate for non-Aboriginal people was 0.3.
Higher than the birth rate - becoming extinct |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:50pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. All you've done is reveal all the Racists. Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:53pm
I was there
It happened In my lifetime In the 70s The Murder rate is off the scale and the rape rate as well - even children even babies That happens now There are literally hundreds of accounts of Aboriginal cannibalism, dating from the first European settlement in Australia to the 1930s or even later. Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later. Aboriginal cannibalism had many different aspects, but the practice existed because of one all-important fact. The Aborigines were pre-literate nomadic hunter-gatherers, who did not grow crops or domesticate livestock for food, and thus were often starving, and were certainly lacking in protein sources. As a result, they turned to eating human flesh, often making a virtue of necessity by endowing the practice with religious significance. Sometimes their cannibalism consisted of deliberately killing and eating small children, women, or the elderly, sometimes of eating enemy warriors slain in battle in the frequent inter-tribal wars and conflicts (which are also almost entirely missing from recent accounts of Aboriginal society). |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 16th, 2022 at 1:06pm
Aborigines practised cannibalism and, especially, baby-eating”. Biber claimed that “these cannibal claims were derived from works by Hector Holthouse, Henry Mayhew, various travellers and explorers and, especially, Daisy Bates”.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 16th, 2022 at 1:38pm Boris wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
I cannot find a birth rate vs death rate for indigenous Australians to make a comparison. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 16th, 2022 at 1:42pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. All you've done is reveal all the Racists. Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 16th, 2022 at 3:35pm
It happened - I was there and I know it went on.
The last wild Aborigines were brought in in 1984 - they were Cannibals Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later. So here are the questions? Were they ever Cannibals? When did they stop? As I was in the Territory and the Doctors were talking about it as an ongoing issue in Arnhem Land and compared it to PNG I can say it was still going on in the 70s. Certainly that group that came in in 1984 were Cannibals so that is even the 80s that I know about. What about the rape and murder of children? That still happens every day |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 16th, 2022 at 4:09pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. All you've done is reveal all the Racists. Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 16th, 2022 at 5:01pm
you are a waste of time
you are in love with a people who rape and murder children in my lifetime they ate children You have never seen all the carnage I have It is hell - a war zone - these people that do these things are monsters |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 16th, 2022 at 6:06pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. All you've done is reveal all the Racists. Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 17th, 2022 at 7:43am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:50pm:
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 17th, 2022 at 8:37am
We live in a Country where monsters are real.
Alleged rape of toddler among more than 700 NT child sexual offence cases in five years, police say More than 20 notifications were made to child services about the Tennant Creek household where a two-year-old girl was allegedly raped, but Territory Families maintains there were "no specific concerns". The toddler was allegedly raped in the outback town, about 500 kilometres north of Alice Springs, last week. Territory Families has confirmed the department received 21 notifications about the household dating back to August 2015, but only six had been substantiated. The child's uncle, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said eight notifications had been made to child services in the two months leading up to the incident. Sexual offence cases involving children under 16 years in NT: 2013: 118 2014: 125 2015: 149 2016: 163 2017: 149 2018 (to Jan 31): 10 Territory Families Chief Executive Ken Davies said reports made about the household related to domestic violence and alcohol. "In terms of the notifications we received, there were no specific concerns that came to Territory Families about particular harm to this child of a sexual nature," he said. "They were not substantial enough to take the child out of this household and away from the mother." "What we did was where these issues were substantiated, we responded and we put in family support services to support the family and the mother in that household." There has been 714 cases of sexual offence involving children under the age of 16 during the past five years in the Northern Territory, police revealed on Thursday. Already there have been 10 this year. According to police, there were 20 notifications from NT Police since July 2015 about the family of the child who was allegedly raped, and 16 of those were directly to Territory Families. The NT Government has since ordered an immediate investigation into its handling of the case and a review of all cases where children had been subject to multiple notifications. The Acting Chief Minister Nicole Manison conceded the government had "failed" the child. Dozens of letters have been sent to government ministers in recent months outlining concerns for safety, but locals say they went unanswered until reports of the alleged rape surfaced on Tuesday. They have also questioned the distribution of police resources, with the town's only mobile CCTV camera unit relocated to Alice Springs. Territory Families 'disconnected' from Aboriginal community The girl's uncle said his family was distressed by what had happened and called for less Top End-based decision-making on local issues. "There were concerns about this little girl and nothing really happened," he said. "Eight notifications in the last two months and they haven't sent one to this office here because they assessed it as not high risk. How do they know? They don't live here. "Failure after failure after failure, how much longer can we put up with this?" Anyinginyi Health Aboriginal Corporation chair Ross Jakamarra Williams, who is also a traditional owner of Tennant Creek, said local police and government agencies had failed the community for years. "The Department (of Territory Families) employees do not work in the interest of this community because they themselves are totally disconnected from Aboriginal families and the real issues they face," he said. "What I have lived and witnesses in the past two weeks is intolerant and unacceptable for any community in this country." 'For God's sake, think of the children' The Federal Indigenous Affairs Minister and Northern Territory Senator Nigel Scullion said he was "shocked and appalled" by the "horrific allegations". Senator Scullion will visit the outback town today, and said he had asked the NT Government to be "as open and transparent as possible" about the circumstances leading up to the incident. "To be absolutely clear, while many facts about the tragic circumstances are still unknown, incidents like these are not unique to or characteristics of being Indigenous," he said in a statement. "The reality is the vast majority of Indigenous families love and care for their children, raising them in healthy and happy homes, connected to their land and their culture." On Wednesday more than 100 residents gathered in the remote central Australian town demanding a united and local approach to fixing the government's "failure" and protecting the town's children. Federal Minister for Indigenous Health Ken Wyatt said the incident was unacceptable, but warned against finger-pointing. "It's easy to say an agency hasn't responded, or a government hasn't responded," he told ABC Radio Darwin. "But on a broader front, as Indigenous Australians, we've been asking for a reduction in the number of aboriginal children in out-of-home care." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-22/indigenous-groups-urge-government-to-address-tennant-creek-abuse/9473002 |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 17th, 2022 at 9:21am
Rates of hospitalisation for neglect and abandonment among indigenous children have been put at thirty to eighty times higher than for the non-indigenous population.[1]
More than 12,000 Aboriginal children have been removed and are in care, making up a third of all Australian children in care.[2] One in nineteen Aboriginal children is in care, ten times the non-indigenous rate.[3] In Queensland, one in every 2.2 Aboriginal children is known to Child Safety, and this is expected to increase to every second child being known to Child Safety this fiscal year. In 2007–08, only one in 4.6 Aboriginal children was known to Child Safety.[4] Yet under-reporting of the sexual abuse of Aboriginal children may be nearly 90 per cent.[5] [1] http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current per cent20series/rpp/100-120/rpp105.html, p55 [2] http://www.aifs.gov.au/cfca/pubs/factsheets/a142117/index.html [3] ibid [4] http://www.childprotectioninquiry.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/175393/Chapter-3.pdf p37 [5] Op cit see 2 [6] But if, as Rudd claimed, there had been “tens of thousands” or “up to 50,000” stolen children, it is odd that the judiciary in court has verified only one stolen child, Bruce Trevorrow, who was taken in 1958 as an ill baby by a well-meaning but misguided white couple. That taking was in defiance of, rather than conformity with, policies of the SA State government against removal of Aboriginal children from their parents. Trevorrow in August 2007 won $535,000 damages plus $250,000 interest. [7] Windschuttle, Keith, The Fabrication of Aboriginal History, Vol 111, Macleay Press, ` Sydney 2009. P603 |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 17th, 2022 at 11:59am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 6:06pm:
Pray limit not thine good self to the 1970's Brian.... hardly any of those you call 'racists' are discussing the 1970's - but from the endless parade of reports going back to Civilisation Day, it would be clearly evidenced that cannibalism did take place, and old habits are hard to break. Thank God for the White Man's Arrival, eh? Trotting out facile terms to demean those who stand for truth as written, will not help your case or that of your Chosen Black Wonderpeople who never do any wrong while killing and raping and bashing one another in another endless parade, and then complain about the consequences. As for the NT agencies not helping - maybe they just feel, with all the hype about Invasion and Enslavement to the White Man's Way and all that - lose if you intervene/lose if you don't - it is simply better to allow the Indigenous to kill one another off etc and ignore the whole thing. Let The Abos Do Things THEIR Way!!! Bring on mothra to explain to we peasants all about generational disadvantage and so forth. Well - they were disadvantaged before the White Man arrived - whose fault is it they haven't taken advantage of opportunities, instead of wallowing in their own disadvantaged lifestyle? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2022 at 2:22pm Oh dearie, dearie, me. It appears that some people get upset at having their comments labelled as what they are - Racism. Tough luck. If you post something Racist, it will be called for what it is - Racism. The only person at fault is yourself. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 17th, 2022 at 6:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 2:22pm:
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 2:22pm:
Your stupid shrieking of "wacism" is very selective, as to be expected from a moronic, ignorant pwogwessive airhead. There is no special effort to eradicate, problematise, decolonise, or otherwise act in an 'anti-racist' manner against the legacy of Marx and his circle. And this is strange because as anybody who has read the work of Marx – especially his private letters to Engels – will know, Marx's reputation by the lights of our own age ought to be toast by now. In one letter written in 1862, Marx turns his wrath on one of their fellow radicals, Ferdinand Lassalle, for not only being Jewish but for also having negroid features and hair. ('It is now quite plain to me he is descended from the negroes who accompanied Moses' flight from Egypt.') He uses the N-word more than once. .. This is not the only occasion that such a sentiment came from Marx's pen. In another letter, he reflects on the 'degenerative' nature of the 'common negro' and the 'leprous' nature of the Jewish people. Moreover, he didn't just keep his racism to his private correspondence. In an article in a New York newspaper, he wrote that 'we find every tyrant backed by a Jew' and claimed that there exists always 'a handful of Jews to ransack pockets'. And these proto-Hitlerian views are consistent throughout his life. In 1843, Marx writes: 'What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.' In public and in private, Marx comes over as anti-black, antisemitic, anti-Indian, pro-colonialist and racist. ... Marx was far worse than any of the people whom Leftist campaigners have spent recent years lambasting. ... What becomes clear in analysing the differences between the treatment of Marx and the treatment of almost every other thinker of the West is that Marx is protected because his writings and reputation are useful for anyone wishing to pull down the West. Douglas Murray |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 8:29am
Rates of hospitalisation for neglect and abandonment among indigenous children have been put at thirty to eighty times higher than for the non-indigenous population.[1]
[1] http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current per cent20series/rpp/100-120/rpp105.html, p55 More than 12,000 Aboriginal children have been removed and are in care, making up a third of all Australian children in care.[2] [2] http://www.aifs.gov.au/cfca/pubs/factsheets/a142117/index.html One in nineteen Aboriginal children is in care, ten times the non-indigenous rate.[3] [3] ibid In Queensland, one in every 2.2 Aboriginal children is known to Child Safety, and this is expected to increase to every second child being known to Child Safety this fiscal year. In 2007–08, only one in 4.6 Aboriginal children was known to Child Safety.[4] [4] http://www.childprotectioninquiry.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/175393/Chapter-3.pdf p37 Yet under-reporting of the sexual abuse of Aboriginal children may be nearly 90 per cent.[5] [5] Op cit see 2 Kevin Rudd began the current Labor era with his apology to the Stolen Generations at the opening of the forty-second Parliament on February 13, 2008. The apology was made and received with the best of intentions.[6] [6] But if, as Rudd claimed, there had been “tens of thousands” or “up to 50,000” stolen children, it is odd that the judiciary in court has verified only one stolen child, Bruce Trevorrow, who was taken in 1958 as an ill baby by a well-meaning but misguided white couple. That taking was in defiance of, rather than conformity with, policies of the SA State government against removal of Aboriginal children from their parents. Trevorrow in August 2007 won $535,000 damages plus $250,000 interest. In May 1999, Queensland Labor Premier Peter Beattie had initiated an apology from the state parliament “for the past policies under which indigenous children were forcibly separated from their families”, which “[expressed] deep sorrow and regret at the hurt and distress that this caused”. This was also heartfelt, but odd. From 1908 to 1971, the state government’s own figures show that a total of only 249 Aboriginal children were removed from their families and sent to reserves, missions and institutions. That’s four per year on average, and the reasons included parents’ death, neglect, the need for better education, and the need to accompany their parents.[7] To put that number in perspective, Queensland now has about 3000 Aboriginal children in care after forced removal from their families. [7] Windschuttle, Keith, The Fabrication of Aboriginal History, Vol 111, Macleay Press, ` Sydney 2009. P603 |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 8:31am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 2:22pm:
Never mind reality - ignore the facts Just scream racist That ploy just does not stand up They were bringing in Aborigines who were living in their tradition way and had never seen White people all through the 70s and into the 80s - they were all Cannibals |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by mothra on Apr 18th, 2022 at 8:38am Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm:
Here's the thing you and cancel culture have in common, Frank ... you both demand purity. It doesn't exist. Listen: (and if you get that reference, you'll appreciate it) My favourite author is Kurt Vonnegut yet he writes women appallingly. Terrible, one-dimensional, tone-deaf caricatures. How do i reconcile this with my feminist self? I simply accept that he was a product of his time. I forgive him. I accept the genius of his work despite his obvious flaws. Much like i will defend '90s Roseanne to the death. Yes, yes, yes ... Ghandi and Marx and Mandella and King Jr, and Biko and ALL OF THEM were flawed ... but they were visionaries of bonds to unite. And they will live on through history as visionaries of bonds to unite. And sad, hopeless, soulless creatures such as you will uselessly keep trying to tear them down. So much worse than even the toxic cancel culture you rail against. At least that has humanity on it's side ... however misguided it is. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2022 at 9:52am mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 8:38am:
:D :D By that reckoning you, and all your bien pensant, PC attitudes and convictions are also flawed and merely a product of your time and parochial circumstances. But nothing dates like the latest fashion in Progressiveville. You are the type who always wants to be thinking the most up to date political and social thoughts according to the most up to date fashion in such parochial mental holes. So now, to your 'feminist' mind womanhood is surely problematised by men who demand to be referred to as women. But you are safe to have second year fem lit crit views of Vonnegut. The only remarkable thing about your favourite writer is resentment (your defining state of mind) that you don't like his portrayal of women. (I wonder what you would make of Henry Miller, Nabokov or Evelyn Waugh.) Progressives have no thought for conserving ANY social conventions, norms, traditions because you treat these categories as the very things to be overcome. But being poorly educated, unreflecting and fearing accidental 'wrongthought', you do not realise that you are setting up new, fashionable conventions and norms of the 'progressive' kind which date fast and invariably cause your perpetual confusions and paradoxical self-contradictions. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by mothra on Apr 18th, 2022 at 10:04am Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 9:52am:
Don't sneer your disgruntlement of popular culture onto me, old man. It's so much bigger than me. And it's coming for you. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 10:48am
women and children are being brutalised, raped and murdered in large numbers and all we get is the rantings of lunatics
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:39am Boris wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 10:48am:
Mothballs doesn't give a phuq because only white males do it according to her. To say it is in absurdly high %'s in Aboriginal society doesn't suit her ideals .... to her it's all the fault of white people anyway. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:50am
Brian is claiming that there is no evidence of cannibalism among the indigenous Australian community since the 1970s. But, why would there be? The Australian government have been playing "softly, softly" with the indigenous people since the 1960s. There would be no way press releases would be made showing that indigenous Australians have engaged in cannibalism since then.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 18th, 2022 at 12:17pm Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:39am:
Don't forget suffers from Owmophobia*.... You see... according to the narrative, Abos are generationally disadvantaged... well - they wouldn't have any concept of disadvantagement unless they could see that for some reason Whartey is doing better, since in 1788 they were in an even worse situation. That generational disadvantage is, somehow according to the narrative, the fault of White society, and has nothing to do with any demand to 'do things their way' as that shallow bint from Melbadishu demanded before shutting up, or to continue their 'traditional' lifestyle of wandering around and picking up a bit to eat etc while retaining the old social structures - the bigger ape always wins the fight and imposes his will on others....... Extremely primitive and nothing noble about it...... anyway - how can Whartey be doing better = Abo disadvantage - unless the Abos wanted to live the White Man's way but retain their old and worn-out approach to life? Can't straddle a barbed wire fence... they either continue to live 'their way' or they accept that to earn the White Man's goods they have to do something for it.... take personal responsibility especially for correcting those things that are holding them back - substance abuse, wife-killing, children neglecting and abusing, the demand to live 'their way' in remote communities where there are no facilities or ways to earn the White Man's Road, the reversion to violence to resolve any disputes or issues or even anything they don't like.... don't you dare tell them they are keeping themselves down by their violent and irresponsible behaviour or they'll bash the sh1t out of you.... don't you dare challenge their established way of doing things by living or being something different or they'll bash you into line. (Running supplies for fire burnout victims WAS hazardous, since those on the receiving end were upset that they'd been burned out (by Whartey's government, of course) so a Wharte Fulla arriving with food and drink and blankets was a fair target for their wrath - they should just take the supplies and maybe the car as a right - that's why the dopey PC sheila they put in charge of 'fire relief' up Nambucca way wouldn't go out of the office - should've had a coupla big Koons as deputies .. fire relief money was good for a party - with $10k I would have had a shed up on a slab insulated with water and stuff ready for Winter - bit of work - instead there were still hundreds without shelter with Winter coming on.... ya gotta make the effort) ... I give up on them to be honest...... my Indigo rellies all act like us - part of the family and do the right things.... I never once noticed the difference until some jerks here started all this bullsh1t about how badly the Abos were done by.... never noticed that some of the kids at school were dark etc.... just part of the scenery.... *Old White Menophobia... |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 18th, 2022 at 1:27pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:50am:
Oh dearie, dearie, me. It appears that Rocky, like Matty finds evidence in their imaginations which does not exist regarding Cannibalism amongst Indigenous Australians since the 1970s. Funny how it doesn't exist anywhere else. You're barking up the wrong trees, boys. There is no evidence because there isn't any. Face facts and reality. I know it is hard for you but until you produce some evidence you suffer under delusions. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 18th, 2022 at 1:43pm
Well - why is it 'sacred'? It was, if reports are correct - a minor quarry.... not every place the Abos did something is a scared site, you know - unless it suits some agenda...
"We git da go'mint declare 'im a Secred Site! Deeead Pharken Easy!!" |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2022 at 2:14pm mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 10:04am:
:D :D Which one? Is it the people's popular cultural front or the culture of popular people's front? Or some other mutation? Which sect are you a partisan of? For a proggy you are a devoted little consumer of the culture industry, filling your head and heart with ever newer little ditties from ever more tattooed little screamers and balladeers, new seasons 'edgy' art and performance, new theories from social 'science's hacks looking to stand out, etc, etc. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 18th, 2022 at 2:37pm
"it's coming for you"..... oooooh.... I'm shivering.. have they set a date???
FFS - mothra - it ain't 'coming' for anyone - it's long past it's unthinking idiotic use by date..... don't start a war you can't finish.... and don't try dictating terms to us until your Abos are marching down George Street! Thanks for the heads-up that the culture of violence plans to continue in that mold - and yet somehow expects to be treated like civilised natives.... Be careful reality isn't coming for YOU!! Keyboard Abo Warrior ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:22pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 1:27pm:
Yes there is I am a witness - testimony of witnesses is evidence |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by freediver on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:23pm Boris wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:22pm:
Only if the witness can be taken seriously. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:28pm
a facebook post about the Alice
· It is so wrong; when you sit out the back on a Friday night, and all you can hear is screaming and fighting. It is terrifying and so f@cked that we have to live in fear. Not long now; and the last of the family will be gone. So sad for my town, that I have called home forever. I don’t see any answer that is going to help our town ♥️ it is so sad that one government can totally ruin one of the most beautiful places on earth. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:31pm freediver wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:23pm:
Truth is truth even if nobody believes it. Lots of people know about the Cannibalism in the NT I am not the only one There are literally hundreds of accounts of Aboriginal cannibalism, dating from the first European settlement in Australia to the 1930s or even later. These accounts were made in all the states and territories of Australia Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later. Since then they have vanished from all depictions of Aboriginal society, and, if asserted today, would be regarded as the embodiment of racism, and dismissed out of hand. These old and frank depictions of Aboriginal society have been replaced by their opposite: veneration for the indigenous inhabitants of Australia and their society as utopian and pristinely moral, and any trace of the endemic and nightmarishly barbaric world inhabited by the Aborigines found by virtually all early observers here has been totally erased, its depiction as fact wholly taboo. That cannibalism was widely practised by Australian Aborigines was a commonplace in virtually all accounts of their society down at least to the 1950s. As late as 1957, Frederick McCarthy, an eminent anthropologist and the Foundation Principal of the Australian Institute of Aboriginal Studies, could assert as a matter of fact in his Australian Aborigines: Their Life and Culture that “Cannibalism existed not only as a part of death and mourning rites, but also in the custom of infanticide.” By around 1970 or slightly later, however, such assertions were conspicuous by their absence from newly published accounts of Aboriginal society, with nothing said about cannibalism and infanticide. Anyone making such assertions would be condemned. A typical example of this may be found online, in a biographical account—by Lauren Gawne, posted in 2016 on something termed the “Dangerous Women Project”—of the career of Daisy Bates (1859–1951), who spent several decades living with outback Aborigines and wrote several well-known books and 270 newspaper articles on Aboriginal life. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by freediver on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:38pm Quote:
I know. I read one in a Bryce Courtney novel. Tell us your jolly swagman yarn again. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:45pm
So you are saying the Aborigines were NEVER Cannibals?
You really are a complete idiot. Or if they were when did it - in your expert opinion - actually finish? They were bringing in Wild Blacks up to 1984 - they were all Cannibals fool |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 18th, 2022 at 4:14pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 1:27pm:
"Dearie, dearie me", hey? The condescending tone of message gives me the impression that you are just being dismissive, without even giving much thought to what you are saying. I have already provided a source of information that tells of indigenous Australian cannibalism. I did not say that they (indigenous people) murdered and then ate people. I do recall the article stating that the people would consume (after cooking) a person, in tribal ritualisms as a way of remembering the dead. One section stated that the spirit of the consumed would go back into the mother so that the child would be reborn. I thought that my claim, that the reporting on indigenous people's culture would have been more and more discreet and sensitive since the 1960s, would have been credible. But, as you rightly point out, I need to produce evidence of that happening. But, I bet if I found articles about white people doing their Hannibal Lecter impressions of cannibalism, you would fall over yourself with eager anticipation to have that splashed all over ozpolitic.com . |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by freediver on Apr 18th, 2022 at 5:44pm Boris wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 3:45pm:
I am saying an eyewitness account is only as valuable as the credibility of the witness. You laid a lot of groundwork before revealing to us that you are the only actual eyewitness out of all the tall stories you have been telling. But at least you now appear to understand what the term means. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 5:48pm
Aborigines rape murder and in my lifetime ate children
That is the reality have you ever lived in the NT? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 18th, 2022 at 5:53pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s. Produce some evidence or piss off. All you've done is reveal all the Racists. Well done... Even Freediver the noted Racist is starting to question, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 18th, 2022 at 5:55pm
Aborigines rape murder and in my lifetime ate children
That is the reality have you ever lived in the NT? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Brian Ross on Apr 18th, 2022 at 6:01pm Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty. Produce some evidence or piss off. All you've done is reveal all the Racists. Well done... Even Freediver the noted Racist is starting to question you. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by aquascoot on Apr 18th, 2022 at 6:11pm
"real' aborigines dont actually like the smug urban douche bags like bwian.
when i was in the territory i was shown a cave with skulls that the white station owner and the aboriginal stockmen knew about and they had agrees amongst themselves that they werent going to get the so-called university archeology types involved at all, so they revealed it to no one they didnt trust. they obviously trusted me but its telling they would never show such a sacred site to the bwians of the world the bwians of this world need to ask themselves why? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 18th, 2022 at 6:45pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 6:01pm:
Big Brother has successfully lowered the rate of anti-social activity! The simple expedient of making it a crime to report anti-social activity has borne fruit and all are safer in their homes!! There have been no reports of cannibalism since reporting cannibalism became an offence against racial harmony!! All Hail Big Brother!! |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2022 at 8:27pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 6:11pm:
The Bbwians will only answer questions if FD answers their questions first. Tsk, tsk. Every schoolboy knows that. [Tut, tut, yawn and all that adult Bbbwienesque intellectual stuff here. ::) ::) ::) ::)] |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:21am
We live in a World where Monsters are real
I call people who bash and rape monsters And so too are those who turn a blind eye - ignore it and say nothing and enable it. The Death rate and the Sexual assault rape is 7 or 8 times what it is for the rest of Australia |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:38am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 5:53pm:
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:38am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 6:01pm:
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:40am
Courier Mail Today.
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:51am Boris wrote on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Thank you for clearing that up - the practice of folding such statistics into one general figure for the general population is part of many problems - not least the never-ending jihad against men in Australia, and by extension (feminism is yet another 'nation without borders', a form of religious zealotry like Islam or Communism or Fascism that has no borders) the rest of the Civilised World. Such nonsense is undermining the will and strength of this country, and opening it up to despotism from one or more of many sources, while doing not one thing to 'close the gap' on abuse of women in Indigenous communities. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Gnads on Apr 19th, 2022 at 6:03pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:51am:
The sad thing is that the "closing the gap" notion has been allocated to one side only. And it aint the Indigenous side. ::) |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 19th, 2022 at 6:58pm Gnads wrote on Apr 19th, 2022 at 6:03pm:
Yes - somehow the very 'Invasion'™ and 'Intervention'™ side they are waging war against in some areas is supposed to charge in and just fix it all for them without any effort on their part. Don't do anything until I get back, said Jesus... |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 21st, 2022 at 9:27am
in case you missed it - many are children in the NT
Murder in Australia - 1.02 incidents per 100,000 Murder in the NT - 8.1 per 100,000 8 times Rape in Australia - 14.1 per 100,000 Rape in the NT - 153.9 per 100,000 10 times many are children Guess who is doing it |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2022 at 12:03pm Boris wrote on Apr 21st, 2022 at 9:27am:
Er... the wacists? Or if not, then the wacist MAKE the Aborigines do it. Tsk, tsk ::) ::) Because every other people have gone on raping and murdering EACH OTHER when someone takes over the running of their territory and try to give them housing, education, health care, skill, electricity, running water, roads, sanitation etc. Nobody can ever tolerate all that without raping any murdering each other on a massive scale Oh, yes. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Apr 21st, 2022 at 12:16pm
When you work in the Hospitals you get to actually see it
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Jul 5th, 2022 at 11:38am
The New Stone Age
[From Chapter One of The Culture Cult] Should American Indians and New Zealand Maoris and Australian Aborigines be urged to preserve their traditional cultures at all cost? Should they be told that assimilation is wrong? And is it wise to leave them entirely to their own devices? The Australian example suggests that the answers are no, no, and no. The best chance of a good life for indigenes is much the same as for you and me—full fluency and literacy in English, as much math as we can handle, and a job. In the year 2000 artificially preserved indigenes are doomed. Since the folly of locking native peoples up in their old-time cultures is plain, but it’s tasteless to say so, governments everywhere resort to the rhetoric of “reconciliation”. This pretends that the problem is psychological and moral: rejig the public mind, ask leading political figures to adopt a contrite demeanor and apologize for the sins of history, and all will be well. Underlying this is the assumption that we’re all on the same plain of social development, divided only by misunderstanding. This is false. The division is deep—there’s a very Big Ditch between the tribal world and modernity. Until around 1970 governments in the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand accepted this fact, and they saw their duty as helping indigenes to cross the Ditch. For that reason they concentrated on better health, education, and housing, and let the chips of traditional culture fall where they may. That’s how western civilization dealt with its own traditions, creatively destroying those that would not change. Creative destruction is a law of historical advance. But romantic primitivism swept progressive policies away. Planning for the future and looking forward was out. Looking backward became the only proper way to look. Transfixed by the Culture Cult, a hyperidealised vision of traditional life was adopted, and the effect on indigenes of romanticising their past has been devastating. On the one hand they found themselves being used as pawns in political games played for high stakes. On the other hand they became the deluded victims of the extravagances of their admirers. If your traditional way of life has no alphabet, no writing, no books, and no libraries, and yet you are continually told that you have a culture which is “rich”, “complex”, and “sophisticated”, how can you realistically see your place in the scheme of things? If all such hyperbole were true, who would need books or writing? In Australia, policies inspired by the Culture Cult have brought the illiterization of thousands of Aborigines whose grandparents could read and write. Roger Sandall https://www.rogersandall.com/the-new-stone-age/ |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:11pm Frank wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 11:38am:
Christ you are dumb |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:44pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:11pm:
Which part of that Sandall extract is "racist', nutsy git? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:45pm Frank wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:44pm:
Several of the assumptions are, clearly. |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:48pm |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:49pm Boris wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
Shared to antifa groups with a call to report for racism |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Jul 5th, 2022 at 1:19pm
bury the truth
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 5th, 2022 at 1:53pm Boris wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 1:19pm:
Bury fascism. By force if needed |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Jul 5th, 2022 at 1:59pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:45pm:
Such as? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by FutureTheLeftWant on Jul 5th, 2022 at 2:00pm Frank wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Aboriginals don't have jobs. Aboriginals have to be forced to learn English |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Boris on Jul 5th, 2022 at 3:06pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 1:53pm:
I suggest you go live in Alice Springs The place is coming apart at the seams because of crime and violence because of smacking idiots just like you who are running the sh!t show |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 5th, 2022 at 6:31pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 5th, 2022 at 12:49pm:
Antifa's going to dump all over the Kaffir street crims and violent types? Wow! And here I was thinking they just loved Cheers, Mussos, Indios and all other Outlanders...... and rejected any moves to bring them under civilised control as war against them..... So Antifa is actually Fa in disguise? who'd 've thunk that? |
Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 5th, 2022 at 6:47pm
Well - what's there to make it sacred?
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Title: Re: Yirra sacred Indigenous site older than first thou Post by Frank on Aug 12th, 2022 at 9:58am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 9th, 2022 at 1:05pm:
On 21 September 1915, a barrister named Cecil Chubb was sent to an auction by his wife to buy some curtains. According to some accounts, she asked for dining chairs. It didn’t matter, because her husband bought neither. Instead, Mr. Chubb returned home the proud owner of a crumbling stone monument. Today, it might be hard to imagine that one of England’s most famous prehistoric monument, the Stonehenge, could be offered for sale at an auction, but that’s what happened a century ago. https://www.amusingplanet.com/2022/08/the-man-who-bought-stonehenge-and-gave.html |
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