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Member Run Boards >> Environment >> How Australia became one of the worst deforesters http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1646641292 Message started by Laugh till you cry on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:21pm |
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Title: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:21pm
Yes dear denizens, "Australia is the only nation in the developed world to make the World Wildlife Fund's (WWF) global list of deforestation hotspots."
"And the state with the highest rate of land clearing is Queensland. In that state, in 2015-16, about 395,000 hectares of native vegetation were cleared." "In Queensland alone it's estimated 45 million animals were killed in 2015-16 because of bulldozing of forests - everything from geckos to cockatoos," Dr Taylor said. https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/how-australia-became-one-of-the-worst-deforesters-in-the-world/10452336 Quote:
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 7th, 2022 at 7:30pm
So how much forest is left in Australia? Depending on estimates 120-139 Million Hectares.
"Australia has 134 million hectares of forest, which is 17% of Australia’s land area. This is about 3% of the world’s forest area, and the seventh-largest reported forest area worldwide." https://www.awe.gov.au/abares/forestsaustralia/profiles/australias-forests-2019 |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 7th, 2022 at 10:09pm
80% deforestation - that's pretty sad for any nation.
John Howard's trick was to leave 100m wide strips of forest along roads in Tasmania - so locals and tourists can't see the deforestation behind them. I think we need to call the Ents of the Forests to kick some arse against all these 'deforestors'. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 7th, 2022 at 10:26pm Jasin wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 10:09pm:
Link? |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 7th, 2022 at 10:36pm lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 7:30pm:
Government propaganda is brought to you by the government's faithful, obeisant servant and aspiring to be declared the designated useful idiot denizen Lee. Australia is 128th on the list of countries ranked by percentage forest area as percent of land area. https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/AG.LND.FRST.ZS/rankings This sign appears just outside denizen Lee's house. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 7th, 2022 at 10:44pm
I like South Australia - but what I noticed most was the lack of Trees and Forests. All gone possibly for vast Wheat farms.
No wonder it's hot there in Summer. No Shade. Sad to see original native Forests in NZ deforested, just so Pine Plantations can replace them. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 7th, 2022 at 11:20pm
The winner is Surinam with 98.26% of its land area forested.
Greenland has less % land area as forest than Iceland. The dead beat losers at less than 1% are: 177 Niger 0.89 2016 178 Algeria 0.82 2016 179 Bahrain 0.78 2016 180 Iceland 0.50 2016 181 Saudi Arabia 0.45 2016 182 Kuwait 0.35 2016 183 Djibouti 0.24 2016 184 Mauritania 0.21 2016 185 Libya 0.12 2016 186 Egypt 0.07 2016 187 Oman 0.01 2016 188 Greenland 0.00 2016 189 Nauru 0.00 2016 189 Qatar 0.00 2016 189 San Marino 0.00 2016 |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Gnads on Mar 8th, 2022 at 9:44am Quote:
Yeah & the biggest portion of that was country that was covered in shyte regrowth after already being cleared & left unmanaged. So they're counting the same country twice. They also prosecute graziers who have selectively pushed over sustainable Mulga so they could feed their livestock during drought. When pushed mulga sends out suckers & regrows thicker. It has been a fallback fodder for drought for over 100 years. The whole interior was once forested .... who deforested that along with the mega fauna extinction long before European colonisation? Fire stick farming.... no? ;D |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 8th, 2022 at 9:57am Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2022 at 9:44am:
Queensland's new Megafauna are bulldozers. You are right Gnads. This controversy could be shut down forever by bulldozing and concreting the damn lot. kcuF the forests. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 8th, 2022 at 12:16pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 10:36pm:
From your reference - "Forest area (% of land area) in Australia was 16.26 as of 2016. Its highest value over the past 26 years was 16.77 in 2000, while its lowest value was 16.04 in 2010." Nothing there about deforestation. Unless you are whinging about the central desert area being deforested. ::) |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 8th, 2022 at 4:42pm Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2022 at 9:44am:
No Gnads you offspring from an IVF trial. The Younger Dryas period brought about a 10,000 year long GLOBAL drought - that both scuttled the Aboriginal culture from 'living' to surviving and of course the Mega Fauna were compromised and 'also' hunted by a more desperate people of that period. The Younger Dryas period saw the same effect for both Fauna and Humans all around the world. WAKE UP! |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 9th, 2022 at 11:22pm
The cause must be closet poms seeking to emulate the deforestation of the UK.
The poms are experts at shooting themselves in the foot. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 10th, 2022 at 5:11am
Trees help create Rain.
In WA - satellite photos showed the before and after effect of two large expanses of land separated by Rabbit-Proof-Fence. The land on the western side, closer to the coast was deforested entirely and made into a Wheat region. The further inland 'forested' area was left untouched. After the change, it only rained in the 'forested' area. The funny thing was, the farmers said they should have made that side the 'wheat' side. ::) Civilised people are like 'domesticated' cattle, mostly like feral pests though. Smart is the people and culture who can bring out the best in the land... naturally. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 10th, 2022 at 12:07pm
So now woodland is forest and climate changes. Who knew?
And somehow the rain knew to stop right on the edge of the woodland. That rainfall is sure is canny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 10th, 2022 at 8:57pm lee wrote on Mar 10th, 2022 at 12:07pm:
Yes it is. It's a strange world Lee. Go to the barren deforested Nimitibal area in Southern NSW and the rain mostly sticks to the surrounding bush, forest, woodland (grouped Trees) areas, but hardly rains in the de-forested regfion in the 'middle' of it all. Who would have thought that Trees react positively to Classical music over anything from the usual American music scene even from the 50's ...which Trees lean away from. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 10th, 2022 at 9:05pm
The replanting of trees with Greening Australia has meant that Australia has expanded its forests considerably since the 1950s. Whatever the WWF has claimed, I would call ridiculous allegations since the start of the 21st century.
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 10th, 2022 at 9:12pm
Deforest the 'wild', re-plant with Pine Plantations, eh?
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 10th, 2022 at 9:21pm UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 10th, 2022 at 9:05pm:
You are a blatant dupe aspiring to become a useful idiot. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 10th, 2022 at 10:05pm
They are still cutting down trees. But new trees are being planted elsewhere to compensate.
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 10th, 2022 at 10:07pm UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 10th, 2022 at 10:05pm:
So bulldoze and cut down 'fertile wild areas', just to replace them with sterile 'plantations'. No wonder bees are dissapearing. Why not just leave the wild forests, bush, woodlands, old-growth and plant those plantations in 'arid-empty' areas anew. Stupid white people don't know anything except politics. Can you imagine ScoMo as a Farmer, Ranger, etc? ;D ;D ;D Thank god for Aborigines and Black people!!! |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 10th, 2022 at 10:53pm Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2022 at 8:57pm:
So it does rain. ::) Apparently rainfall at Nimmitabel is 700mm. Has been from 1894- 1996. ::) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.0906-7590.2004.04004.x Published 2004. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 11th, 2022 at 11:54am lee wrote on Mar 10th, 2022 at 10:53pm:
Oh it does rain. Especially this 'wet' year. But most years - it's a barren wasteland of farming efforts, while the rain just falls around the region where there are trees. Even when I lived in the Riverina. It rained mostly and heavily along waterways and tree areas - which were also along waterways, both man-made and natural. Simple Maths. Want more rain? Have more trees. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 11th, 2022 at 12:06pm Jasin wrote on Mar 11th, 2022 at 11:54am:
700mm is about twice the rainfall I get. ::) |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 11th, 2022 at 9:33pm
That's why the grass is green near the forest fringes, but not where the farming is. You know, the farms with no trees - not one either. Silly white man should stick to politics, doesn't know squat about 'the land', unless he gets a uni-degree - but 95% of all farmers aren't 'academic' when it comes to farming, eh.
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 11th, 2022 at 9:47pm Jasin wrote on Mar 11th, 2022 at 9:33pm:
You mean they don't grow crops at all? Crops will grow with little more than dew. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 11th, 2022 at 9:54pm
Rain would be better, no?
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 11th, 2022 at 10:00pm Jasin wrote on Mar 11th, 2022 at 9:54pm:
It would. But according to google there are crops. Why do you lie? "The only true chernozem in Australia is located around Nimmitabel, with some of the richest soils in the nation." https://farmingbase.com/which-places-have-the-richest-soil-in-the-world/ |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 11th, 2022 at 10:21pm lee wrote on Mar 11th, 2022 at 10:00pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D That's why SFA grows there. Just sheep graziers and sparse flocks at that. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Ayn Marx on Mar 12th, 2022 at 8:13am Jasin wrote on Mar 11th, 2022 at 9:33pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 12th, 2022 at 10:09am UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 10th, 2022 at 10:05pm:
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 12th, 2022 at 11:49am Jasin wrote on Mar 11th, 2022 at 10:21pm:
So tell us more about these rain gauges located in the forest. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 12th, 2022 at 4:06pm
https://www.theland.com.au/story/6391167/monaro-pioneer-country-hits-the-market/
650mm of rain and not a forest in sight. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by JaSin. on Mar 12th, 2022 at 8:08pm
It's been a rare year aye.
But people still whine about flooding too. |
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by lee on Mar 12th, 2022 at 9:13pm
From 2019. That was a drought year. ;)
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Title: Re: How Australia became one of the worst deforesters Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 13th, 2022 at 3:39pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 10:09am:
For one thing, your meme cannot even spell "complete" correctly. The other thing is that you seem to fail to point out the deforested areas of Australia that have not at least had some reforesting of the area. Our forests have expanded since the low forest areas of 70 years ago. I am not saying that Australia has as many trees now as it did at the time of settlement. But, we are on the mend. |
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