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Message started by Bam on Dec 9th, 2021 at 7:15am

Title: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Bam on Dec 9th, 2021 at 7:15am
Shortage of urea, used to make diesel anti-pollution additive AdBlue, threatens to grind Australia to a halt, transport industry warns

What is AdBlue and why could an international shortage bring Australia's economy to its knees?

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 9th, 2021 at 8:36am
Nitrous oxide and urea - sounds like a good mix.... home on the sheep's piss?

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Gordon on Dec 9th, 2021 at 8:59am
China is taking the piss.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 9th, 2021 at 9:11am
Could a mining operation on the front lawn of Chez Gordon overcome this problem?

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Gordon on Dec 9th, 2021 at 10:00am
Problem solved.

Mongs members agreed to stop their golden shower parties for 1 day and now there's a urea glut.

Well done, Mongs.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 9th, 2021 at 11:47am

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 10:00am:
Problem solved.

Mongs members agreed to stop their golden shower parties for 1 day and now there's a urea glut.

Well done, Mongs.


Banana-fingers Haji Gordon can now dry out and dry up.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Gordon on Dec 9th, 2021 at 11:50am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 11:47am:

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 10:00am:
Problem solved.

Mongs members agreed to stop their golden shower parties for 1 day and now there's a urea glut.

Well done, Mongs.


Banana-fingers Haji Gordon can now dry out and dry up.


Piss weak as usual.
Speaking of piss where is Monk, he's usual pissed by midday.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:11pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 11:50am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 11:47am:

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 10:00am:
Problem solved.

Mongs members agreed to stop their golden shower parties for 1 day and now there's a urea glut.

Well done, Mongs.


Banana-fingers Haji Gordon can now dry out and dry up.


Piss weak as usual.
Speaking of piss where is Monk, he's usual pissed by midday.


He is preparing himself to deliver Banana-fingers Haji Gordon's next free shower.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by lee on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:12pm
Australia has urea and also makes AdBlue.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:37pm

lee wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:12pm:
Australia has urea and also makes AdBlue.


What are you waiting for lee? Get to it before Banana-fingers Haji Gordon dries off.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Gordon on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:40pm
Laugh will save us by sucking the fluid from Aussie's incontinence diapers. Remember to spit and not swallow.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Jim Lahey on Dec 9th, 2021 at 1:07pm
Valkie could supply all the Urea needed by attaching a hose to his pants which are constantly soaked with urine due to him being a wimp.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 9th, 2021 at 1:30pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:40pm:
Laugh will save us by sucking the fluid from Aussie's incontinence diapers. Remember to spit and not swallow.


After Banana-fingers Haji Gordon has had a jolly good suck in the Chez Gordon urea recycling room where mattresses are used for urea storage?

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Gordon on Dec 9th, 2021 at 1:33pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 1:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:40pm:
Laugh will save us by sucking the fluid from Aussie's incontinence diapers. Remember to spit and not swallow.


After Banana-fingers Haji Gordon has had a jolly good suck in the Chez Gordon urea recycling room where mattresses are used for urea storage?


LoL, try being original. Suck hard and Aussie will give you the adult diapers he makes his Indian cabbies wear so they can do a 72 hour shift with no toilet breaks.



Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 9th, 2021 at 1:38pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 1:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:40pm:
Laugh will save us by sucking the fluid from Aussie's incontinence diapers. Remember to spit and not swallow.


After Banana-fingers Haji Gordon has had a jolly good suck in the Chez Gordon urea recycling room where mattresses are used for urea storage?


LoL, try being original. Suck hard and Aussie will give you the adult diapers he makes his Indian cabbies wear so they can do a 72 hour shift with no toilet breaks.


Is Banana-fingers Haji Gordon relinquishing his right to first suck?

Banana-fingers Haji Gordon has appointed super-suckers Valkie and Grappler to the board of Chez Gordon to improve the suck.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Valkie on Dec 9th, 2021 at 2:16pm
Yet another well thought out, informative and balanced post by the resident troll sock laughable.

Testament to the ability of life to survive without the intellegence to pick it's own nose,

Peccar, you coward, your socks are starting to take over what's left of your grouted up and feeble little mind.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Laugh till you cry on Dec 9th, 2021 at 2:24pm

Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
... intellegence to pick it's own nose ...


Nobody questions Valkie's "intellegence" and ability to pick it's nose.

Valkie is too dumb to use a spell-checker.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Valkie on Dec 9th, 2021 at 2:28pm
And yet another brilliant comeback from the master of stupidity laughable.

His ability to manipulate the English language into a display of total absurdity, stupidity, insult and inability to be even remotely sensible is surpassed only by his inherent troll sock infantile behaviour.


Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Jim Lahey on Dec 9th, 2021 at 3:34pm
LOL Valkie got REKT.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 9th, 2021 at 4:00pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 9:11am:
Could a mining operation on the front lawn of Chez Gordon overcome this problem?


A mining operation inside your skull would yield plenty of guano.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Valkie on Dec 9th, 2021 at 4:22pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 4:00pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 9:11am:
Could a mining operation on the front lawn of Chez Gordon overcome this problem?


A mining operation inside your skull would yield plenty of guano.


The sock master must have stepped in shite if that's the case.

Laughable is just a pathetic sock,
Used by a coward, like all his socks, to harass posters that mention that he is a welcher and liar.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Lols on Dec 15th, 2021 at 10:28am

lee wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 12:12pm:
Australia has urea and also makes AdBlue.


From what I have heard with a farmer interviewed on the Project last night, we have about 5 weeks worth AdBlue.

I also heard whispers that we only make 20% in Oz of Urea.

Also found out… from the trucker’s wife… their diesel trucks don’t need the urea as they are older trucks… it’s the newer trucks that depend on it.

I see the older trucks getting lots of delivery work soon?
That and/or older diesel trucks sought after will take a hike in prices?

Literally… “food” for thought.

Just remember, the good old Aussie scout’s motto… be prepared.


Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Valkie on Dec 15th, 2021 at 12:13pm
This urea or addblue is not necessary.
This is a euro 6 requirement, Australia is only working at Euro 5.
A small adjustment to the computer and bingo, no longer is add blue required.

But the "authorities" would have a hissy fit if we actually kept the trucks on the road.
Better to decimate the ability to fill shelves and provide necessary groceries.
Better to send farmers and manufacturers to the wall.
Better to send Australians broke than make a small adjustment to a few trucks until the add blue is available again.

But that's just too easy
And everyone knows that easy is unknown to the Australia grubberment.

I have a MUX with a DPF (diesel particulate filter)
It's a stupid, badly engineered patch that has been forced on diesel owners to comply with some stupid emission rules.
It will eventually clog up and render an otherwise functional vehicle undrivable.

If it ever does, I'll be getting it fixed and sell the car.
I will purchase a pre-DPF diesel, have it rebuilt and drive it as it is meant to drive.


Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Gnads on Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:39am

Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 12:13pm:
This urea or addblue is not necessary.
This is a euro 6 requirement, Australia is only working at Euro 5.
A small adjustment to the computer and bingo, no longer is add blue required.

But the "authorities" would have a hissy fit if we actually kept the trucks on the road.
Better to decimate the ability to fill shelves and provide necessary groceries.
Better to send farmers and manufacturers to the wall.
Better to send Australians broke than make a small adjustment to a few trucks until the add blue is available again.

But that's just too easy
And everyone knows that easy is unknown to the Australia grubberment.

I have a MUX with a DPF (diesel particulate filter)
It's a stupid, badly engineered patch that has been forced on diesel owners to comply with some stupid emission rules.
It will eventually clog up and render an otherwise functional vehicle undrivable.

If it ever does, I'll be getting it fixed and sell the car.
I will purchase a pre-DPF diesel, have it rebuilt and drive it as it is meant to drive.

 
A lot of diesel vehicle owners with models that have DPF ... get them cleaned & then fitted with Catch Cans.

I agree a system that clogs the manifold & turbo with carbon build up is ridiculous.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 16th, 2021 at 9:19am
Reading up on my Terr-uh-tree, it doesn't use Adblue.  I'll look under the bonnet when I go out to add some Diesel Power to keep the injectors smick and the mould down in the fuel.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Valkie on Dec 16th, 2021 at 12:28pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:39am:

Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 12:13pm:
This urea or addblue is not necessary.
This is a euro 6 requirement, Australia is only working at Euro 5.
A small adjustment to the computer and bingo, no longer is add blue required.

But the "authorities" would have a hissy fit if we actually kept the trucks on the road.
Better to decimate the ability to fill shelves and provide necessary groceries.
Better to send farmers and manufacturers to the wall.
Better to send Australians broke than make a small adjustment to a few trucks until the add blue is available again.

But that's just too easy
And everyone knows that easy is unknown to the Australia grubberment.

I have a MUX with a DPF (diesel particulate filter)
It's a stupid, badly engineered patch that has been forced on diesel owners to comply with some stupid emission rules.
It will eventually clog up and render an otherwise functional vehicle undrivable.

If it ever does, I'll be getting it fixed and sell the car.
I will purchase a pre-DPF diesel, have it rebuilt and drive it as it is meant to drive.

 
A lot of diesel vehicle owners with models that have DPF ... get them cleaned & then fitted with Catch Cans.

I agree a system that clogs the manifold & turbo with carbon build up is ridiculous.


The catch can has nothing to do with the DPF directly.
Their purpose is to "catch " the oil laden fumes that come from the crankcase and which are "supposedly" recycled through the engine.
However the problem is there is another "patch" that recycles a percentage of exhaust fumes back through the intake manifold ( the EGR) to mix with the oil.
The EGR is introduced before the turbo to mix with "clean" air to reduce the heat generated by the combustion process by reducing the available oxygen in the cylinder by mixing the previously burnt oxygen in the exhaust.
This supposedly reduces the NOX fumes.

The result.
The oil and carbon ash from these two processes combining is a sludge which over time blocks the intake manifold and head reducing the engines efficiency.

As it becomes less and less efficient, more carbon and oil clog it even more.

This results in the DPF clogging up with the exhaust of the engine and eventually failing.

So while the catch can is a separate and unrelated (to the DPF) process.
It time it can help minimise the clogging and improve efficiency.


Diesel engines these days are under enormous pressure to stop contributing to the world's pollution.

However this is mainly because diesel exhaust is more visible than petrol engines, but the stuff you see is mostly just carbon.
The DPF is designed to remove "invisible" particulate material.
This carcinogenic particulate material is just as prevalent in petrol cars as in diesel, but not as noticeable.
And because petrol engines are less efficient as diesel, they actually produce more of the stuff.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Belgarion on Dec 16th, 2021 at 4:09pm

Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 12:13pm:
This urea or addblue is not necessary.
This is a euro 6 requirement, Australia is only working at Euro 5.
A small adjustment to the computer and bingo, no longer is add blue required.

But the "authorities" would have a hissy fit if we actually kept the trucks on the road.
Better to decimate the ability to fill shelves and provide necessary groceries.
Better to send farmers and manufacturers to the wall.
Better to send Australians broke than make a small adjustment to a few trucks until the add blue is available again.

But that's just too easy
And everyone knows that easy is unknown to the Australia grubberment.

I have a MUX with a DPF (diesel particulate filter)
It's a stupid, badly engineered patch that has been forced on diesel owners to comply with some stupid emission rules.
It will eventually clog up and render an otherwise functional vehicle undrivable.

If it ever does, I'll be getting it fixed and sell the car.
I will purchase a pre-DPF diesel, have it rebuilt and drive it as it is meant to drive.


Exactly. Should the shortage of ad blue become a problem then there is an easy fix.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:31pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 9:19am:
Reading up on my Terr-uh-tree, it doesn't use Adblue.  I'll look under the bonnet when I go out to add some Diesel Power to keep the injectors smick and the mould down in the fuel.


Nope - no AdBlue for me... see yez on the road.

Title: Re: Urea shortage threatens diesel transport
Post by Valkie on Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:38pm
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Belgarion wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 4:09pm:

Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 12:13pm:
This urea or addblue is not necessary.
This is a euro 6 requirement, Australia is only working at Euro 5 five
A small adjustment to the computer and bingo, no longer is add blue required.

But the "authorities" would have a hissy fit if we actually kept the trucks on the road.
Better to decimate the ability to fill shelves and provide necessary groceries.
Better to send farmers and manufacturers to the wall.
Better to send Australians broke than make a small adjustment to a few trucks until the add blue is available again.

But that's just too easy
And everyone knows that easy is unknown to the Australia grubberment.

I have a MUX with a DPF (diesel particulate filter)
It's a stupid, badly engineered patch that has been forced on diesel owners to comply with some stupid emission rules.
It will eventually clog up and render an otherwise functional vehicle undrivable.

If it ever does, I'll be getting it fixed and sell the car.
I will purchase a pre-DPF diesel, have it rebuilt and drive it as it is meant to drive.


Exactly. Should the shortage of ad blue become a problem then there is an easy fix.


Add blue does not even go through the engine.
It's squirted into the exhaust.
It's a Euro 6 requirement Australia is only currently working to Euro 5,  predominantly because we have nowhere near the issues they have in other countries.

Firstly, rarely a day goes by that has no wind, wind blows away the fumes.
We have a much smaller population.
We don't live in densely packed cities with every driver driving a diesel car or truck
And we have greater distances to travel in open areas that see few people or housing.

The only reason our idiot politicians want Euro 6 requirements is that it makes them look cool to the big boys.

What they won't tell you is tgat the fuel quality in Australia is so bad that more efficient, more powerful and less polluting vehicles can't run on the crap we use.
The car companies just won't send them here because they know the crap fuel will cause problems with these high performance and economical engines.

We also have a group of idiots working in the roads and maritime agency who just love to screw up engines.
Harley Davidson bikes are forced to send their bikes into Australiia with a restrictor in the carby.
Honda's had their 1.0mm car by jets reduced to 0.75mm
and several cars were subjected to equally draconian stupidity.

Why, you ask?
Because these morons believed that by restricting the jets and fiddling with the computer mapping, they can slow down vehicles.
But these deadbeats never really studied engines and the resulting effects of restricting fuel flow which has been "designed" by infinitely smarter engineers.

For example
My 1.5 litre, 6 cylinder, 6 carby Honda was shipped to Australia with 0.75mm jets.
The result, it had a nasty flat spot around 4000 rpm.
I got around 35 to 40 mpg out of this beautiful bike.
I was told I could not have the correct jets shipped to Australia from Honda.
Honda was instructed not to do it.
So, a mate in the US bought the jets, shipped them to me and I fixed the bike.
The result, with no other adjustments,
Fuel consumption improved 38 to 45 mpg
Flat spot gone
Acceleration improved so that 0 to 100kph was achieved in a fraction over 3 seconds, instead of the previous 4.5 seconds.

Crap fuel
Idiotic rules
Uneducated morons changing engine functionality

No wonder we only get outdated vehicles in Australia.


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