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Message started by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm

Title: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm
Israel was one of the first countries to mass vaccinate with Fizzer now they're considering more lockdowns as cases increase they're back to wearing masks. The Israelis are also going for a 3rd shot of Pfizer it appears the first 2 don't work.

For some reason our politicians think mass vaccination is the solution to the Kung Flu.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/


Quote:
First to vaccinate and first to party, Israel now mulls lockdowns

One of the most vaccinated nations in the world is a test case for how Delta will play out. So far, it’s not pretty

     This June, as I packed for a trip to London, I realised I couldn’t find a single mask in my house, nor in any of the stores by my house in Tel Aviv.

It had been months since anyone had needed one in Israel, one of the fastest- and most-vaccinated nations in the world. By mid-March, Israelis were partying as lockdowns ended and by April, masks had more or less vanished, turning the tiny country into a tantalising glimpse of a post-pandemic future.

     “Why do you want a mask? Corona is over,” chuckled my neighbourhood grocery store grandma, as she handed me a half-empty bag of masks she found in the back as I rushed to the airport.



     A month later, as I returned from London after my own bout of Covid-19 — one of the earlier breakthrough cases of the fully vaccinated catching the Delta variant — masks were everywhere.

So was coronavirus. From a few dozen daily cases in early June — even zero on June 9 — new Covid infections twice hovered near 6,000 this week, the highest daily rate in six months.


     Having won early access to supplies of the BioNTech/Pfizer jab in exchange for sharing nationwide data on how mass vaccination drives affect the pandemic, Israel is a closely watched indicator for where well-inoculated developed economies are heading.

     After months of euphoria, the data out of Israel is troubling. The Israeli ministry of health has twice revised downwards the long-term efficacy of the jabs — from the advertised 94 per cent protection from asymptomatic infections against the then-dominant Alpha variant, to as low as 64 per cent against the now-dominant Delta variant.

As new infections soared, so did the long tail of hospitalisations.
     Even though the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill, the vaccine’s protection was waning fastest for the oldest — the most vulnerable — who got their first jabs as early as December.

     At this rate, health officials predicted at least 5,000 people would need hospital beds by early September, half of them with serious medical needs, twice as many as Israel is equipped to handle.

https://www.ft.com/content/c21e2053-0373-4b8e-80b7-fad10f235604?shareType=nongift

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:23pm

Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1628721071/0#0

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:36pm
What's the rate for AstraZenca Bobby?

We have had 3 deaths in 3 days in NSW with fully vaxxed people it will probably rise as around a 2 week delay from infection to death or recovery.

When you look at survival rates from unvaxxed people you would have to question if these vaccines work.


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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:57pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
What's the rate for AstraZenca Bobby?

We have had 3 deaths in 3 days in NSW with fully vaxxed people it will probably rise as around a 2 week delay from infection to death or recovery.

When you look at survival rates from unvaxxed people you would have to question if these vaccines work.



I reckon it's toss a coin if you go to hospital.
Tails you live and heads you die.
There is only so much the manufacturers can do with a cold virus.
That's why we never had a vaccine for the common cold -
and Covid-19 is a common cold variant about
10 times more deadly than the flu.

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Sprintcyclist on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:02pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm:
..............  Even though the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill, the vaccine’s protection was waning fastest for the oldest — the most vulnerable — who got their first jabs as early as December.

     At this rate, health officials predicted at least 5,000 people would need hospital beds by early September, half of them with serious medical needs, twice as many as Israel is equipped to handle.

https://www.ft.com/content/c21e2053-0373-4b8e-80b7-fad10f235604?shareType=nongift




Quote:
.........   the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill     ............


There is your option.

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:57pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
What's the rate for AstraZenca Bobby?

We have had 3 deaths in 3 days in NSW with fully vaxxed people it will probably rise as around a 2 week delay from infection to death or recovery.

When you look at survival rates from unvaxxed people you would have to question if these vaccines work.



I reckon it's toss a coin if you go to hospital.
Tails you live and heads you die.
There is only so much the manufacturers can do with a cold virus.
That's why we never had a vaccine for the common cold -
and Covid-19 is a common cold variant about
10 times more deadly than the flu.


I don't think it's a toss of the coin thing if you have to go to hospital for treatment there are some with much higher risk than others.

CDC data shows older people have higher risk along with the Obese and Diabetics.

Obesity is the strongest risk factor.

Obesity is a bad thing it puts a lot of stress on heart and lungs which have to pump oxygenated blood through all that fat in your body. Muscles act like a pump so being lean with a bit of muscle is great it reduces stress on heart and lungs.

The first case of Delta in NSW the driver who transported the FedEx air crew recovered along with his wife.

This Dr will explain CDC data for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cccSHUckGSQ

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:13pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm:
..............  Even though the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill, the vaccine’s protection was waning fastest for the oldest — the most vulnerable — who got their first jabs as early as December.

     At this rate, health officials predicted at least 5,000 people would need hospital beds by early September, half of them with serious medical needs, twice as many as Israel is equipped to handle.

https://www.ft.com/content/c21e2053-0373-4b8e-80b7-fad10f235604?shareType=nongift




Quote:
.........   the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill     ............


There is your option.


You mean this option?

Over 30K unvaccinated  have recovered from this in Australia



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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:23pm:
Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1628721071/0#0



The FDA guidelines say it needs minimum 50% to be approved.

They only allow it to be used with Emergency Use Authorisation none of the kung flu vaccines are FDA approved.

It looks like the Fizzer isn't going to get FDA approval if it wasn't for the EUA it wouldn't be allowed.

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:20pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:23pm:
Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1628721071/0#0



The FDA guidelines say it needs minimum 50% to be approved.

They only allow it to be used with Emergency Use Authorisation none of the kung flu vaccines are FDA approved.

It looks like the Fizzer isn't going to get FDA approval if it wasn't for the EUA it wouldn't be allowed.



It's a bio-weapon - with gain of function technology.
I want to hang Fauci.
He told the Chinks how to do it and even paid them.
It was all planned.


Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:20pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:23pm:
Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1628721071/0#0



The FDA guidelines say it needs minimum 50% to be approved.

They only allow it to be used with Emergency Use Authorisation none of the kung flu vaccines are FDA approved.

It looks like the Fizzer isn't going to get FDA approval if it wasn't for the EUA it wouldn't be allowed.



It's a bio-weapon - with gain of function technology.
I want to hang Fauci.
He told the Chinks how to do it and even paid them.
It was all planned.


Obama banned gain of function research in the US after they made the H5N1 bird virus airborne transmissable resulting in scientists saying it's too dangerous to create a virus that can cause pandemics.

They paid China to do gain of function research.

I don't think it is a Bioweapon China has had SARS virus leak from their labs about 4 times they were able to contain leaks.

The fizzer vaccine doesn't look worthwhile side effects from Europe data show neurological conditions being 2nd most common with heart inflammation 3rd.

At 42% the Fizzer isn't going to get FDA approval.

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Sprintcyclist on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?



What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?



What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .


Who said it's a hoax in this thread?

Of course those who don't want to talk about things throw out words like Climate Denier, anti vaxxer and Islamophobe to silence any debate on those subjects and not allow critical thoughts.

If you're over 70 or Obese or have Diabetes or a combination of underlying conditions this could be a very bad thing to catch.

Not anti vax keep in mind none of the Kung Flu vaccinations have FDA approval Fizzer is unlikely to get it people should be allowed to talk about this or any other subject to make informed decisions.

Israel is now giving booster shots to double vaxxed people the first 2 don't woek that well. From what i have seen i wouldn't be waiting for Fizzer.

The CDC recntly admitted those who are fully vaxxed can still get Kung Flu and spread it which is why they have brought back asking people to mask up again. How will these vaccine passports work when vaxxed people can still catch and transmit the Kung Flu?

The CDC data shows unvaxxed people under 70 have a 99.5% survival rate, if the vax was 100% effective how many people under 70 would be saved if everyone got vaxxed?

The vaccines from Fizzer Moderna and AZ only target the spike protein teaching your immune system to fight that they are non sterilising vaccines that don't target the whole virus.

Those who have caught covid and recovered have immune systems that target the whole virus instead of just one part.



Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 10:49am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm:
..............  Even though the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill, the vaccine’s protection was waning fastest for the oldest — the most vulnerable — who got their first jabs as early as December.

     At this rate, health officials predicted at least 5,000 people would need hospital beds by early September, half of them with serious medical needs, twice as many as Israel is equipped to handle.

https://www.ft.com/content/c21e2053-0373-4b8e-80b7-fad10f235604?shareType=nongift




Quote:
.........   the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill     ............


There is your option.


sprint,

That ain't necessarily so.

That multiple expressed, may have just been formed from a 'popular' uninformed supposition [shared by the correspondent who wrote that piece],
regarding the 'popular' belief in the efficacy of the COVID vaccine.  ???

Do you have links to any reports, showing how being 'fully vaccinated' does give a huge reduction in harsh symptoms, for ALL those who are 'fully vaccinated' ?





Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:00am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:

Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?


sadk,

How about you take off your [horse] blinkers ?     [.....but i'm not hopeful]

There ARE some groups of people, in all societies, which are at a much higher danger of a severe consequence from the COVID virus.



as per.....


Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm:

I don't think it's a toss of the coin thing if you have to go to hospital for treatment there are some with much higher risk than others.

CDC data shows older people have higher risk along with the Obese and Diabetics.

Obesity is the strongest risk factor.





Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:06am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?



What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .


sprint,

'Follow the money !'



BIG PHARMA corps are generating 10's of $$$billions in 'earnings' from dispersing all of these 'vaccines',
and all government medical agencies can 'profit' from this course too.




Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:28am

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:

Israel is now giving booster shots to double vaxxed people the first 2 don't woek that well. From what i have seen i wouldn't be waiting for Fizzer.

The CDC recntly admitted those who are fully vaxxed can still get Kung Flu and spread it which is why they have brought back asking people to mask up again. How will these vaccine passports work when vaxxed people can still catch and transmit the Kung Flu?


!!!!!!!!!!!


.



Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:

The CDC data shows unvaxxed people under 70 have a 99.5% survival rate,

if the vax was 100% effective how many people under 70 would be saved if everyone got vaxxed?


A.
The susceptible to COVID [death]    0.5%      ....of any population, by my calc.


.



Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:

The vaccines from Fizzer Moderna and AZ only target the spike protein teaching your immune system to fight that they are non sterilising vaccines that don't target the whole virus.

Those who have caught covid and recovered have immune systems that target the whole virus instead of just one part.


!!!!!!!!!!!


.


The world community needs to accept, that the Pfizer [et al] COVID 'vaccine', does not have the characteristics of a true vaccine.

But will the MSM and the 'medical intelligentsia' ever let that truth be exposed and scrutinised ?



From the Oxford Dictionary.....

vaccinate

immunise

immune


------ >


Dictionary;
vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine     to produce immunity     against a disease.


Dictionary;
immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation.


Dictionary;
immune = =
1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.
2 not susceptible.





Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by The_Barnacle on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:41am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?



What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .


It's hilarious that Baronvonrort isn't bright enough to realise that he has contradicted himself in nearly every post he has made  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The thread title is of covid deaths increasing because apparently Pfizer isn't working, yet in the same thread (and sometimes in the same post he is claiming covid has a 99% survival rate, so we shouldn't worry about it.

The thing about contrarians like Baronvonrort is that they seem unaware how contradictory many of their contrary opinions are  ;D ;D ;D

Also note that he keeps referring to FDA approval. a dead giveaway that he is getting all his nonsense from US conspiracy sites

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 16th, 2021 at 10:27pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:41am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?



What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .


It's hilarious that Baronvonrort isn't bright enough to realise that he has contradicted himself in nearly every post he has made  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The thread title is of covid deaths increasing because apparently Pfizer isn't working, yet in the same thread (and sometimes in the same post he is claiming covid has a 99% survival rate, so we shouldn't worry about it.

The thing about contrarians like Baronvonrort is that they seem unaware how contradictory many of their contrary opinions are  ;D ;D ;D

Also note that he keeps referring to FDA approval. a dead giveaway that he is getting all his nonsense from US conspiracy sites


It's hillarious you're not bright enough to see the CDC  published survival rates before the vaccines became available.

The US has had far more cases and deaths compared to us.

If the fizzer is so good why are they going for a 3rd booster shot with it?



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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Setanta on Sep 11th, 2021 at 5:34pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?



What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .


Who said it's a hoax in this thread?

Of course those who don't want to talk about things throw out words like Climate Denier, anti vaxxer and Islamophobe to silence any debate on those subjects and not allow critical thoughts.

If you're over 70 or Obese or have Diabetes or a combination of underlying conditions this could be a very bad thing to catch.

Not anti vax keep in mind none of the Kung Flu vaccinations have FDA approval Fizzer is unlikely to get it people should be allowed to talk about this or any other subject to make informed decisions.

Israel is now giving booster shots to double vaxxed people the first 2 don't woek that well. From what i have seen i wouldn't be waiting for Fizzer.

The CDC recntly admitted those who are fully vaxxed can still get Kung Flu and spread it which is why they have brought back asking people to mask up again. How will these vaccine passports work when vaxxed people can still catch and transmit the Kung Flu?

The CDC data shows unvaxxed people under 70 have a 99.5% survival rate, if the vax was 100% effective how many people under 70 would be saved if everyone got vaxxed?

The vaccines from Fizzer Moderna and AZ only target the spike protein teaching your immune system to fight that they are non sterilising vaccines that don't target the whole virus.

Those who have caught covid and recovered have immune systems that target the whole virus instead of just one part.


That's not how antibodies work, they cannot recognise what they cannot see, ie, the inside of the virus. What they recognise and target are the proteins that encase the virus, the proteins in the shell, once antibodies attack the virus, the whole virus is destroyed.

Quote:
Via antibodies
Viruses can also be removed from the body by antibodies before they get the chance to infect a cell. Antibodies are proteins that specifically recognise invading pathogens and bind (stick) to them. This binding serves many purposes in the eradication of the virus:

Firstly, the antibodies neutralise the virus, meaning that it is no longer capable of infecting the host cell.
Secondly, many antibodies can work together, causing virus particles to stick together in a process called agglutination. Agglutinated viruses make an easier target for immune cells than single viral particles.
A third mechanism used by antibodies to eradicate viruses, is the activation of phagocytes. A virus-bound antibody binds to receptors, called Fc receptors, on the surface of phagocytic cells and triggers a mechanism known as phagocytosis, by which the cell engulfs and destroys the virus.
Finally, antibodies can also activate the complement system, which opsonises and promotes phagocytosis of viruses. Complement can also damage the envelope (phospholipid bilayer) that is present on some types of virus
https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/pathogens-and-disease/immune-responses-viruses

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:16pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 10:27pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:41am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?

COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...

Which is it?



What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .


It's hilarious that Baronvonrort isn't bright enough to realise that he has contradicted himself in nearly every post he has made  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The thread title is of covid deaths increasing because apparently Pfizer isn't working, yet in the same thread (and sometimes in the same post he is claiming covid has a 99% survival rate, so we shouldn't worry about it.

The thing about contrarians like Baronvonrort is that they seem unaware how contradictory many of their contrary opinions are  ;D ;D ;D

Also note that he keeps referring to FDA approval. a dead giveaway that he is getting all his nonsense from US conspiracy sites


It's hillarious you're not bright enough to see the CDC  published survival rates before the vaccines became available.

The US has had far more cases and deaths compared to us.

If the fizzer is so good why are they going for a 3rd booster shot with it?


Does somebody have to chew your food for you?

Seriously?


Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Sir lastnail on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:26pm
https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/03/the-vaccines-dont-work-israel-records-highest-rate-of-covid-19-infections-in-the-world-despite-78-of-population-being-fully-vaccinated/


Quote:
The Vaccines don’t work – Israel records highest rate of Covid-19 infections in the World despite 78% of population being fully vaccinated

Just a few months ago, the mainstream media praised Israel for its “pandemic-ending” vaccination campaign. With over 40 percent of the population “fully vaccinated” in the first quarter of 2021, Israel was allegedly well on its way to stopping community spread and clearing out its hospitals.

The nation of Israel imposed some of the strictest lockdowns during that time, violating the Nuremberg Code and segregating the unvaccinated from public life. Israel bought up the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA Covid injection and began issuing mandatory Green Pass “vaccine passports” as a requirement for citizens to enter public spaces.

By August, Israel had intimidated and coerced its population into having one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, with 78 percent of people 12 years of age and older classified as “fully vaccinated.”

The world was reassured that this rate of vaccination was more than enough to ensure individual and “herd immunity.”

However, infection rates have skyrocketed across the country since then, and Israel is now logging the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. At times, hospitalisations for the “fully vaccinated” have reached upwards of 95 percent......

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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Bobby. on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:32pm
Israel only had 8 deaths yesterday:

https://coronaboard.com/

(Number 32 on the list.)


Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:33pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:26pm:
https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/03/the-vaccines-dont-work-israel-records-highest-rate-of-covid-19-infections-in-the-world-despite-78-of-population-being-fully-vaccinated/


Quote:
The Vaccines don’t work – Israel records highest rate of Covid-19 infections in the World despite 78% of population being fully vaccinated

Just a few months ago, the mainstream media praised Israel for its “pandemic-ending” vaccination campaign. With over 40 percent of the population “fully vaccinated” in the first quarter of 2021, Israel was allegedly well on its way to stopping community spread and clearing out its hospitals.

The nation of Israel imposed some of the strictest lockdowns during that time, violating the Nuremberg Code and segregating the unvaccinated from public life. Israel bought up the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA Covid injection and began issuing mandatory Green Pass “vaccine passports” as a requirement for citizens to enter public spaces.

By August, Israel had intimidated and coerced its population into having one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, with 78 percent of people 12 years of age and older classified as “fully vaccinated.”

The world was reassured that this rate of vaccination was more than enough to ensure individual and “herd immunity.”

However, infection rates have skyrocketed across the country since then, and Israel is now logging the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. At times, hospitalisations for the “fully vaccinated” have reached upwards of 95 percent......


god you're a moron .... no one ever said the vaccine would stop you getting the virus

here's something else about Israel your conspiranutter website didn't tell you


Quote:
While vaccinated people are testing positive and being hospitalized in Israel’s delta outbreak, the current post-vaccination outbreak is only a fraction of the country’s worst pre-vaccination outbreak in January, reported The Washington Post.

    Currently, cases are less than one-tenth as many as during January’s peak.
    Hospitalizations during the current outbreaks are less than one-sixteenth of January’s peak, per The Washington Post. Put differently, Israel is currently averaging 120 weekly hospital admissions. In January, the country averaged 2,000 weekly hospital admissions.
    Most importantly, admission to intensive care units for severe COVID-19 cases is less than one-twentieth the number of admissions in January.


it must suck to be as dumb as you

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by aquascoot on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:36pm

pfizer are recommending a thrid shot.
pfizer are making enormous profits , so of course they are.

AZ arent recommending it at the moment.
AZ did a deal with oxford uni that they wouldnt make a profit off the vax , so they are not finiancially incentivised

says a lot.

zuby says it best
17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.


Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:36pm:
pfizer are recommending a thrid shot.
pfizer are making enormous profits , so of course they are.


You don't have to have one, though.

In fact, it would be better if you didn't.

It would only be wasted on someone like you.

Let the people who believe in science, rather than fame & fortune, have the vax - the rest of you can rot in hell.

No offence.


Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Bobby. on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:36pm:
pfizer are recommending a thrid shot.
pfizer are making enormous profits , so of course they are.


You don't have to have one, though.

In fact, it would be better if you didn't.

It would only be wasted on someone like you.

Let the people who believe in science, rather than fame & fortune, have the vax - the rest of you can rot in hell.

No offence.



But Greggy -
you lead a life of pure garbage -
get down to the gym,
lose weight,
get stronger,
stop smoking,
stop boozing,
stop eating doughnuts and
all that junk food.


watch this video:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jak9wBBcF68D/

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:36pm:
pfizer are recommending a thrid shot.
pfizer are making enormous profits , so of course they are.

AZ arent recommending it at the moment.
AZ did a deal with oxford uni that they wouldnt make a profit off the vax , so they are not finiancially incentivised

says a lot.

zuby says it best
17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.



Thanks Aqua

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Gordon on Sep 11th, 2021 at 8:20pm
So, who trusts the ethics (not the science) of large pharmaceuticals?

Absent from the list of US vaccines is Moderna because their Covid vaccine is the first product they've ever sold.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Ayn Marx on Sep 11th, 2021 at 9:00pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:
What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .

What I can’t get my head around is who so many paranoid psychotics are attracted to web forums devoting so much time and effort trying to convert others to their deluded vision.

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Setanta on Sep 12th, 2021 at 8:55pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 9:00pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:
What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .

What I can’t get my head around is who so many paranoid psychotics are attracted to web forums devoting so much time and effort trying to convert others to their deluded vision.


It's a search, a need, a longing for another of the same faith. An absolute disbelief in what is happening around them and an inability to personally deal with it. A search and belief in a "soul" partner, a truth. A belief they are insignificant, exposed, vulnerable. A need to belong. Then you have them for life, you have given them meaning. It's the same the world and mankind over. It's a part of us as a family of superstitious hominids, apes.

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 12th, 2021 at 9:11pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 8:20pm:
So, who trusts the ethics (not the science) of large pharmaceuticals?

Absent from the list of US vaccines is Moderna because their Covid vaccine is the first product they've ever sold.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements


Pfizer were fined $2.3 billion in 2009 for falsifying test results and muzzling doctors.

When we look at $35 billion in profit from this new vaccine it shows while previous fines were large it's nothing compared to potential profits.

The 6 month data on Pfizer vaccine shows they stacked the deck to make vaccine look better than it actually is when testing it.

We have known obesity is a major risk for serious infection with diabetes being another risk yet there were very few obese or diabetics in testing it in fact the cross section of population used in testing were much healthier than average.

Did this stacking of the deck with much healthier people who are far more likely to recover from this virus make this vaccine look better than it actually is?

With talk of 3rd and more booster shots Pfizer could easily make over $100 billion from this vaccine that does SFA.

Dr Chris Martenson gives a peer review on Pfizer 6 month data for some reason video link doesn't start at begining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRP-_2v8mSQ

Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 12th, 2021 at 10:01pm
Israel went with fizzer how are they doing?

Cases and deaths are increasing

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/


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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 13th, 2021 at 12:36am

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 10:27pm:
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It's hillarious you're not bright enough to see the CDC  published survival rates




How's about you provide a link directly to the CDC web page covering survival rates - and not just a meme knocked up by some anti-vaxxer group ?

And who is - or once was - Scott Buckley ?




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