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Title: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm
Israel was one of the first countries to mass vaccinate with Fizzer now they're considering more lockdowns as cases increase they're back to wearing masks. The Israelis are also going for a 3rd shot of Pfizer it appears the first 2 don't work.
For some reason our politicians think mass vaccination is the solution to the Kung Flu. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ Quote:
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:23pm |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:36pm
What's the rate for AstraZenca Bobby?
We have had 3 deaths in 3 days in NSW with fully vaxxed people it will probably rise as around a 2 week delay from infection to death or recovery. When you look at survival rates from unvaxxed people you would have to question if these vaccines work. cdc_010.jpg (188 KB | 7
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:57pm Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
I reckon it's toss a coin if you go to hospital. Tails you live and heads you die. There is only so much the manufacturers can do with a cold virus. That's why we never had a vaccine for the common cold - and Covid-19 is a common cold variant about 10 times more deadly than the flu. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Sprintcyclist on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:02pm Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:21pm:
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There is your option. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:57pm:
I don't think it's a toss of the coin thing if you have to go to hospital for treatment there are some with much higher risk than others. CDC data shows older people have higher risk along with the Obese and Diabetics. Obesity is the strongest risk factor. Obesity is a bad thing it puts a lot of stress on heart and lungs which have to pump oxygenated blood through all that fat in your body. Muscles act like a pump so being lean with a bit of muscle is great it reduces stress on heart and lungs. The first case of Delta in NSW the driver who transported the FedEx air crew recovered along with his wife. This Dr will explain CDC data for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cccSHUckGSQ |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:13pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
You mean this option? Over 30K unvaccinated have recovered from this in Australia cdc_011.jpg (188 KB | 9
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm
Can you idiots get your story straight?
COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID... Which is it? |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:08pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:23pm:
The FDA guidelines say it needs minimum 50% to be approved. They only allow it to be used with Emergency Use Authorisation none of the kung flu vaccines are FDA approved. It looks like the Fizzer isn't going to get FDA approval if it wasn't for the EUA it wouldn't be allowed. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:20pm Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:08pm:
It's a bio-weapon - with gain of function technology. I want to hang Fauci. He told the Chinks how to do it and even paid them. It was all planned. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:31pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:20pm:
Obama banned gain of function research in the US after they made the H5N1 bird virus airborne transmissable resulting in scientists saying it's too dangerous to create a virus that can cause pandemics. They paid China to do gain of function research. I don't think it is a Bioweapon China has had SARS virus leak from their labs about 4 times they were able to contain leaks. The fizzer vaccine doesn't look worthwhile side effects from Europe data show neurological conditions being 2nd most common with heart inflammation 3rd. At 42% the Fizzer isn't going to get FDA approval. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Sprintcyclist on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax . |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:
Who said it's a hoax in this thread? Of course those who don't want to talk about things throw out words like Climate Denier, anti vaxxer and Islamophobe to silence any debate on those subjects and not allow critical thoughts. If you're over 70 or Obese or have Diabetes or a combination of underlying conditions this could be a very bad thing to catch. Not anti vax keep in mind none of the Kung Flu vaccinations have FDA approval Fizzer is unlikely to get it people should be allowed to talk about this or any other subject to make informed decisions. Israel is now giving booster shots to double vaxxed people the first 2 don't woek that well. From what i have seen i wouldn't be waiting for Fizzer. The CDC recntly admitted those who are fully vaxxed can still get Kung Flu and spread it which is why they have brought back asking people to mask up again. How will these vaccine passports work when vaxxed people can still catch and transmit the Kung Flu? The CDC data shows unvaxxed people under 70 have a 99.5% survival rate, if the vax was 100% effective how many people under 70 would be saved if everyone got vaxxed? The vaccines from Fizzer Moderna and AZ only target the spike protein teaching your immune system to fight that they are non sterilising vaccines that don't target the whole virus. Those who have caught covid and recovered have immune systems that target the whole virus instead of just one part. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 10:49am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
sprint, That ain't necessarily so. That multiple expressed, may have just been formed from a 'popular' uninformed supposition [shared by the correspondent who wrote that piece], regarding the 'popular' belief in the efficacy of the COVID vaccine. ??? Do you have links to any reports, showing how being 'fully vaccinated' does give a huge reduction in harsh symptoms, for ALL those who are 'fully vaccinated' ? |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:00am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
sadk, How about you take off your [horse] blinkers ? [.....but i'm not hopeful] There ARE some groups of people, in all societies, which are at a much higher danger of a severe consequence from the COVID virus. as per..... Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:06am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:
sprint, 'Follow the money !' BIG PHARMA corps are generating 10's of $$$billions in 'earnings' from dispersing all of these 'vaccines', and all government medical agencies can 'profit' from this course too. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:28am Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:
!!!!!!!!!!! . Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:
A. The susceptible to COVID [death] 0.5% ....of any population, by my calc. . Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:
!!!!!!!!!!! . The world community needs to accept, that the Pfizer [et al] COVID 'vaccine', does not have the characteristics of a true vaccine. But will the MSM and the 'medical intelligentsia' ever let that truth be exposed and scrutinised ? From the Oxford Dictionary..... vaccinate immunise immune ------ > Dictionary; vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease. Dictionary; immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation. Dictionary; immune = = 1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells. 2 not susceptible. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by The_Barnacle on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:41am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:
It's hilarious that Baronvonrort isn't bright enough to realise that he has contradicted himself in nearly every post he has made ;D ;D ;D ;D The thread title is of covid deaths increasing because apparently Pfizer isn't working, yet in the same thread (and sometimes in the same post he is claiming covid has a 99% survival rate, so we shouldn't worry about it. The thing about contrarians like Baronvonrort is that they seem unaware how contradictory many of their contrary opinions are ;D ;D ;D Also note that he keeps referring to FDA approval. a dead giveaway that he is getting all his nonsense from US conspiracy sites |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 16th, 2021 at 10:27pm The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:41am:
It's hillarious you're not bright enough to see the CDC published survival rates before the vaccines became available. The US has had far more cases and deaths compared to us. If the fizzer is so good why are they going for a 3rd booster shot with it? cdc_012.jpg (188 KB | 8
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Setanta on Sep 11th, 2021 at 5:34pm Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 12:08am:
That's not how antibodies work, they cannot recognise what they cannot see, ie, the inside of the virus. What they recognise and target are the proteins that encase the virus, the proteins in the shell, once antibodies attack the virus, the whole virus is destroyed. Quote:
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:16pm Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 10:27pm:
Does somebody have to chew your food for you? Seriously? |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Sir lastnail on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:26pm
https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/03/the-vaccines-dont-work-israel-records-highest-rate-of-covid-19-infections-in-the-world-despite-78-of-population-being-fully-vaccinated/
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Bobby. on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:32pm |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:33pm Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:26pm:
god you're a moron .... no one ever said the vaccine would stop you getting the virus here's something else about Israel your conspiranutter website didn't tell you Quote:
it must suck to be as dumb as you |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by aquascoot on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:36pm pfizer are recommending a thrid shot. pfizer are making enormous profits , so of course they are. AZ arent recommending it at the moment. AZ did a deal with oxford uni that they wouldnt make a profit off the vax , so they are not finiancially incentivised says a lot. zuby says it best 17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:46pm aquascoot wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:36pm:
You don't have to have one, though. In fact, it would be better if you didn't. It would only be wasted on someone like you. Let the people who believe in science, rather than fame & fortune, have the vax - the rest of you can rot in hell. No offence. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Bobby. on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:53pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
But Greggy - you lead a life of pure garbage - get down to the gym, lose weight, get stronger, stop smoking, stop boozing, stop eating doughnuts and all that junk food. watch this video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jak9wBBcF68D/ |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:59pm aquascoot wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 6:36pm:
Thanks Aqua |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Gordon on Sep 11th, 2021 at 8:20pm
So, who trusts the ethics (not the science) of large pharmaceuticals?
Absent from the list of US vaccines is Moderna because their Covid vaccine is the first product they've ever sold. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Ayn Marx on Sep 11th, 2021 at 9:00pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:38pm:
What I can’t get my head around is who so many paranoid psychotics are attracted to web forums devoting so much time and effort trying to convert others to their deluded vision. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Setanta on Sep 12th, 2021 at 8:55pm Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 9:00pm:
It's a search, a need, a longing for another of the same faith. An absolute disbelief in what is happening around them and an inability to personally deal with it. A search and belief in a "soul" partner, a truth. A belief they are insignificant, exposed, vulnerable. A need to belong. Then you have them for life, you have given them meaning. It's the same the world and mankind over. It's a part of us as a family of superstitious hominids, apes. |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 12th, 2021 at 9:11pm Gordon wrote on Sep 11th, 2021 at 8:20pm:
Pfizer were fined $2.3 billion in 2009 for falsifying test results and muzzling doctors. When we look at $35 billion in profit from this new vaccine it shows while previous fines were large it's nothing compared to potential profits. The 6 month data on Pfizer vaccine shows they stacked the deck to make vaccine look better than it actually is when testing it. We have known obesity is a major risk for serious infection with diabetes being another risk yet there were very few obese or diabetics in testing it in fact the cross section of population used in testing were much healthier than average. Did this stacking of the deck with much healthier people who are far more likely to recover from this virus make this vaccine look better than it actually is? With talk of 3rd and more booster shots Pfizer could easily make over $100 billion from this vaccine that does SFA. Dr Chris Martenson gives a peer review on Pfizer 6 month data for some reason video link doesn't start at begining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRP-_2v8mSQ |
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 12th, 2021 at 10:01pm
Israel went with fizzer how are they doing?
Cases and deaths are increasing https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ E6dUxHxVUAQhgjo_001.jpg (52 KB | 7
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Title: Re: Deaths and infections increasing Pfizer is fizzer Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 13th, 2021 at 12:36am Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 10:27pm:
How's about you provide a link directly to the CDC web page covering survival rates - and not just a meme knocked up by some anti-vaxxer group ? And who is - or once was - Scott Buckley ? |
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