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Message started by Valkie on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:16am

Title: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Valkie on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:16am
The greenies have got it wrong again, electric batteries are not safe or pollution free


Quote:
Fears toxic battery blaze could be repeated in NSW
CLARISSA BYE


The Tesla battery fire near Geelong.

A FIRE at one of the largest Tesla battery installations in the world in Victoria has sparked renewed fears by country NSW residents about the construction of a similar battery farm in their backyard.

It took three days for the toxic blaze to be extinguished after it began in a 13 tonne-lithium-ion battery during testing at Moorabool near Geelong.


Many Gulgong and Mudgee residents, in the NSW central west, are opposed to a new 400MW Stubbo Solar Farm and Battery Project and have formed an action group Save Our Surroundings (SOS) Central West.

“We have grass fires throughout the year,” Dennis Armstrong, from SOS said. “Wind, solar and battery energy storage just up the risks significantly because they are so hard to put out.

“Several firefighters from different regions advised SOS members that they can only fight fires in a solar electricity works from its perimeter because of the dangerous high voltages and toxic gases released.”

The facility will be built in the middle of one of the Berejiklian government’s renewable energy zones, under a push for more green energy.

Occupying 1750ha of land, it will generate about one million megawatt hours of electricity a year.



Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Gnads on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:19am
The Greenies are always wrong.

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Ayn Marx on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:24am

Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:19am:
The Greenies are always wrong.

Bugger so called Greenies, what about scientists? Are they always wrong?

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Gnads on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:42am

Ayn Marx wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:24am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:19am:
The Greenies are always wrong.

Bugger so called Greenies, what about scientists? Are they always wrong?


You tell me .... there's either still a big problem with lithium battery science, construction & catching fire or

they are not being installed correctly?

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Valkie on Aug 6th, 2021 at 1:59pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:42am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:24am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:19am:
The Greenies are always wrong.

Bugger so called Greenies, what about scientists? Are they always wrong?


You tell me .... there's either still a big problem with lithium battery science, construction & catching fire or

they are not being installed correctly?


I worry more that it takes 3 days to put them out and they belch toxic smoke into the air the whole time.

A diesel truck fumes takes decades to kill you
These batteries are far more efficient, less that a few months.

Imagine a tesla car catching fire under a block of flats or in a shopping centre car park.

Burning away for a couple of days and pumping toxic smoke everywhere.
Wonderful solution......not

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by lee on Aug 6th, 2021 at 2:04pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:24am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:19am:
The Greenies are always wrong.

Bugger so called Greenies, what about scientists? Are they always wrong?


Perhaps you can tell us the scientists who say lithium batteries are safe?

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by John Smith on Aug 6th, 2021 at 3:48pm
the usual morons crying because some batteries caught on fire.

::)

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by lee on Aug 6th, 2021 at 4:12pm
Poor JS. No-one's crying, no-one's cheering. The lithium batteries, which are seen by some to be the panacea for the intermittency of Weather Dependent Renewables, have shown themselves to be less than reliable.

Lithium batteries have to burn themselves out. They burn hotter than steel so a steel enclosure will melt. The only solution I see to that are concrete blast enclosures. But seeing as you are so smug perhaps you can suggest otherwise?

The only moron is you.

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by John Smith on Aug 6th, 2021 at 4:14pm

lee wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 4:12pm:
Poor JS. No-one's crying, no-one's cheering



sure you are, no matter how much you try to hide it

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Ayn Marx on Aug 6th, 2021 at 4:15pm

lee wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 2:04pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:24am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 8:19am:
The Greenies are always wrong.

Bugger so called Greenies, what about scientists? Are they always wrong?


Perhaps you can tell us the scientists who say lithium batteries are safe?

Why is it so common for forum members to impute statements to others they never made?

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by lee on Aug 6th, 2021 at 4:19pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 4:15pm:
Why is it so common for forum members to impute statements to others they never made?


Why is it that a thread on Tesla batteries that you said "Bugger so called Greenies, what about scientists? Are they always wrong?"

So what was it about scientists you think is always wrong or always right, in relation to Tesla batteries? ;)

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Valkie on Aug 6th, 2021 at 5:23pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
the usual morons crying because some batteries caught on fire.

::)


And the usual moron with nothing constructive has to open his bung hole .....again.

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 6th, 2021 at 6:42pm
More Telsa batteries going up in smoke.


Quote:
A California couple’s Tesla caught fire while charging overnight, ignited another Tesla next to it, and caused a massive house fire. They haven’t been home in 8 months.

A California couple has said that their Tesla Model S caught fire while charging in their garage overnight, spread to a second Tesla vehicle before engulfing their house in flames.

Yogi and Carolyn Vindum, residents of San Ramon, California, have not been able to return to their home since the blaze, which happened on December 30 last year, The Washington Post reported.

“If we had lived upstairs in this house, we’d be dead,” Yogi Vindum told the Post, which was the first publication to report the fire on Wednesday.

Yogi Vindum said that a car alarm woke them up at 5.37 a.m. that morning as the house filled with smoke, per the Post.

The couple’s 2013 Tesla Model S 85 had caught fire as it was charging, and ignited a second Tesla Model S parked next to it –creating explosions strong enough to blow off the garage doors, they told the Post.

The Post said that the Vindums received a fire inspection report in July which cited either the car’s thermal management system or electrical system as the possible cause of the blaze.

Yogi Vindum told the Post in an video interview that the fire ripped through the garage up to the office above, and destroyed a further two rooms and a bathroom. He and his wife were sleeping in the back of the house and escaped without injuries, he said.

The fire caused more than $US1 ($AU1) million worth of damage, the Post reported, citing a report by the San Ramon Valley Fire Protection District.

“The firemen said it was so hot that they couldn’t walk up the driveway,” Yogi Vindum told The Post. At least six fire trucks arrived at the scene, he said.

Tesla has faced mounting concerns over numerous reports of its vehicles catching fire. In July, a new Tesla Model S Plaid reportedly caught fire in Philadelphia while its was being driven, Mark Geragos, the owner’s lawyer, said.

In 2019, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) opened an investigation into a potential problem in Tesla Model S and X batteries that could cause fires, it said in a letter addressed to a Tesla lawyer at the time.

Other automakers are facing scrutiny over the safety of their electric vehicles as they rush to release new models. In February, Hyundai recalled 82,000 EVs to replace their battery systems over fire safety concerns, per Reuters.

And General Motors told around 51,000 owners of previously recalled 2017-2019 Chevrolet Bolt EVs in July to avoid parking them indoors or charging them unattended, after receiving reports that two had caught fire in the weeks prior.

Tesla did not immediately respond to Insider’s request for comment.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/couples-tesla-caught-fire-charging-overnight-caused-a-house-fire-2021-8

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by John Smith on Aug 6th, 2021 at 7:11pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 5:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
the usual morons crying because some batteries caught on fire.

::)


And the usual moron with nothing constructive has to open his bung hole .....again.



I didn't see any comment from you, constructive or otherwise .... unless you're dumb enough to think copy/pasting articles is constructive comment :D :D :D

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by Valkie on Aug 6th, 2021 at 7:22pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 7:11pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 5:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
the usual morons crying because some batteries caught on fire.

::)


And the usual moron with nothing constructive has to open his bung hole .....again.



I didn't see any comment from you, constructive or otherwise .... unless you're dumb enough to think copy/pasting articles is constructive comment :D :D :D


You really have a hard on for me don't you freak?

Perhaps, if you ever grow up and get a real job, you might be a little less toxic.

But then again, sewage is still sewage.

Title: Re: Tesla batteries burn, burn, burn
Post by John Smith on Aug 6th, 2021 at 7:27pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 7:22pm:
You really have a hard on for me don't you freak?



i didn't comment on you until AFTER you attacked me you farken moron.

Life must really suck being as stupid as you ;D ;D

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