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Message started by AiA on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm

Title: China Has Never ...
Post by AiA on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 8:36am

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically

*And does not apply to arbitrary sanctions designed to cripple the economy of another nation (which has spectacularly backfired), because that nation proposed a full investigation into the origins of a virus that has killed over 4 million outside its nation of origin (and destined to kill many more) and cost trillions in economic loss (and destined to cause the loss of trillions more).

*Does not apply to the coercion of Chinese students studying outside mainland China to spy on student compatriots and partake in breaching their visa conditions by threatening the target students' future or the safety of their family still in China.

*Does not apply to trying to provoke nearly every one of the China's neighbours into reckless retaliation which would be the pretext for an escalation (like Hitler circa mid 1939).

*Does not apply to the coercion of international organisations (like the WHO) to collude with the regime.

*Does not apply to the arbitrary arrest and detainment in 'black prisons' of foreign nationals to be used as hostages.

*Does not apply to chilling messages to foreigners already indefinitely detained, as sent to Australian journalist, Cheng Lei, during Stan Grant's interview with CGTN reporter Liu Xin. Through her stumbling and highly edited interview with Grant, Liu Xin first denied any close association with Lei then sent these messages: "I hope her children are taken good care of [] and I hope and I trust that she'll get a fair trial". Shouldn't it be a given that Cheng Lei's children are taken good care of and that she is given a fair trial? And no doubt that interview will be shown to Cheng Lei to terrify her more than she no doubt already is. One of the most appalling interviews I've seen on Australian TV.

*Many more unmentioned here and many more to come.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by Victor Sunny on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 7:51pm

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically


America is devil in the world. Bullied, oppressed, invaded a lot of countries. Unfortunately, Australia is American running dog and invaded other countries too.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 8:08pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 7:51pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically


America is devil in the world. Bullied, oppressed, invaded a lot of countries. Unfortunately, Australia is American running dog and invaded other countries too.

Well, wumao, get your regime to come clean on the origins of the virus, offer compensation for the damage the Chinese regime has done to the world, and we'll call it even.

BTW you wumao better have a place to hide when the regime collapses... There'd be plenty of your countrymen whose lives you've ruined who'd like to have a chat with you.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by Setanta on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 8:11pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 7:51pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically


America is devil in the world. Bullied, oppressed, invaded a lot of countries. Unfortunately, Australia is American running dog and invaded other countries too.


I doubt that post was worth 50c. Pick up your game or you will be re-educated.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by Agatha on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 10:27pm
If you are a captive citizen of China and the party politburo asks you to jump, the only correct answer is, ‘How high, Helmsman Xi?’ This applies not only to regular folk but the estimated 320,000 party apparatchiks, including 35 members of the central committee, purged since the rise and rise of Xi in the years 2012-3. Everyone in his surveillance state, from the remotest Uighur farmer to the celebrity billionaire, must kowtow to the greatest maxim of all: You may have the good life but not the free life.

Ren Zhiqiang, legendary Chinese real-estate mogul, was jailed for 18 years in September 2020 after posting a communiqué that described Xi’s handling of the pandemic as clownish. Jack Ma, former executive chairman of Alibaba, has become an ex-person of late though there is no record of him criticising the regime about Covid-19 or anything else for that matter. It was enough that he wanted to be a billionaire on his own terms in a totalitarian hellscape defined by the belligerent paranoia of China’s Red Emperor.

Today most Australians believe the Wuhan Institute of Virology, more specifically its Biosafety Level 4 Laboratory, is the likely source of the SARS-CoV-2 virus because of mysterious gain-of-function research. The problem is not only that a man-made virus has caused the death of almost four million people and devastated countless communities around the globe. Knowing the truth might, if nothing else, prevent the emergence of a prospective SARS-CoV-3.

Predictably, perhaps, Xi Jinping trashed any remaining credibility owing to the World Health Organisation in order to keep us in the dark. His dangerous criminality could turn out to be the gravest cover-up in the history of the modern world.

....
Xi’s belligerent paranoia – or something worse – absolutely pervades the Fourteen Grievances, and now the G7 leaders cannot unsee it. It captures as well as any other single document a snapshot of the transmutation of the CCP’s capitalist-Leninism into imperialist-Leninism: Australia may have the good life but not the free life. If we want to sell our lobster, barley, wine, timber, oil, gas, coal and iron ore to the People’s Republic of China, then we will have to shut up about the lab-leak theory and everything else that is suspect about the origins of Covid-19. All questioning of Beijing’s actions equates to ‘outrageous condemnations of the government of China’. The regime could not throw Scott Morrison into jail, unlike Ren Zhiqiang and a host of citizen-journalists in Wuhan, but it could try to destroy our economy and torch our democratically elected government.




North is right - they are thee Third Reich of 1935.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 11:32pm
Heeey - I started the comparison with Nazi Germany... how come North gets all the credit?  We are on the same page, and I think he has studied more of it than I have... but then....

It was me who first mooted the concept that once the Sudeten Chinese question was resolved, Chancellor Xi would have no further territorial claims in Asia...... a clear comparison with the Sudeten German thing created by the Nazis.... that also included the Chinese 'persecuted' in Malaysia etc... and then the 'right of free passage' of Chinese troops etc*, which is bearing fruit with the base(s) being built in
Cambo etc.

Ages ago... I think before North got here ... credit where credit is due....

*a very old concept wherein a powerful armed nation says to a neighbour - we only want to cross your territory so we can have at the neighbour beyond you... meaning we will live like locusts off your land while crossing... and unless you agree we'll do it anyway and maybe more.....

It's in Shakespeare's Hamlet - Fortinbras (Strong Arm)... smart guy Shakespeare... Hamlet kills the new king who killed his father, then dies himself, leaving this armed force on Danish territory... wonder who would be taking the crown, eh?

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 4th, 2021 at 8:53am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 11:32pm:
Heeey - I started the comparison with Nazi Germany... how come North gets all the credit?  We are on the same page, and I think he has studied more of it than I have... but then....

It was me who first mooted the concept that once the Sudeten Chinese question was resolved, Chancellor Xi would have no further territorial claims in Asia...... a clear comparison with the Sudeten German thing created by the Nazis.... that also included the Chinese 'persecuted' in Malaysia etc... and then the 'right of free passage' of Chinese troops etc*, which is bearing fruit with the base(s) being built in
Cambo etc.

Ages ago... I think before North got here ... credit where credit is due....

*a very old concept wherein a powerful armed nation says to a neighbour - we only want to cross your territory so we can have at the neighbour beyond you... meaning we will live like locusts off your land while crossing... and unless you agree we'll do it anyway and maybe more.....

It's in Shakespeare's Hamlet - Fortinbras (Strong Arm)... smart guy Shakespeare... Hamlet kills the new king who killed his father, then dies himself, leaving this armed force on Danish territory... wonder who would be taking the crown, eh?

It's OK, Graps... You can take the credit! I'm good with that! Although it's a bit like arguing 'Who's on first...'.

All imperialist and expansionist potentates prefer moral justification to invade territory, otherwise it's hard to galvanise support within the military, and the people, to go to war.

But the signs were always there from the beginning...

Xi intends to be 'the Great Helmsman' (like Mao, although he intends to eclipse him in ambition) and rule an expanded China as an absolute emperor. Hitler became 'Der Führer',  borrowed from Mussolini's 'Il Duce' and Ioseb Besarionis dzе Jughashvili became 'Stalin' and 'Vozhd'.

All had ambitions of territorial gain. Dictators have no choice... Their slogan has to be 'war all the time' or their reason-for-being becomes moot.

To do that, they need to maintain a sense of moral 'outrage' and sense of superiority, imbued into those they rule absolutely, against 'the other' (e.g.. the 'foreign devil', 'untermenschen') under a singular (yet irrelevant) ideology.

Xi intends to cement his totalitarian regime within the next year, which will include: total suppression of any residual dissent, the purging and murder of remaining opponents, a further regimentising and surveillance of the Chinese people, and subjugation of the world (he's like Hitler and Stalin in that respect).

Expect Mao-style purges, more abusive posturing against other nations and the demonising of 'foreigners' - which won't be hard in China as the notion of 'foreign devils' is well established.

Finally, 1935 has another significance... It was the year before an Olympic Games for Hitler, as 2021 is for Xi... If key countries boycott the 2022 Winter Olympics (as they didn't in 1936), it will be a sign to Xi that the democratic world is seriously united against the Chinese regime (this is likely the current motivation for Xi to order his 'wolf wankers' to 'tone it down a bit'; as Hitler and Goebbels did in 1935).

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by Victor Sunny on Jul 4th, 2021 at 8:56am

Setanta wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 8:11pm:

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 7:51pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically


America is devil in the world. Bullied, oppressed, invaded a lot of countries. Unfortunately, Australia is American running dog and invaded other countries too.


I doubt that post was worth 50c. Pick up your game or you will be re-educated.


If you pay, that post is truth and worth 1 million.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 4th, 2021 at 8:57am

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 4th, 2021 at 8:56am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 8:11pm:

Victor Sunny wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 7:51pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically


America is devil in the world. Bullied, oppressed, invaded a lot of countries. Unfortunately, Australia is American running dog and invaded other countries too.


I doubt that post was worth 50c. Pick up your game or you will be re-educated.


If you pay, that post is truth and worth 1 million.

Venezuelan  bolívars?

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 4th, 2021 at 10:58am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 4th, 2021 at 8:53am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 11:32pm:
Heeey - I started the comparison with Nazi Germany... how come North gets all the credit?  We are on the same page, and I think he has studied more of it than I have... but then....

It was me who first mooted the concept that once the Sudeten Chinese question was resolved, Chancellor Xi would have no further territorial claims in Asia...... a clear comparison with the Sudeten German thing created by the Nazis.... that also included the Chinese 'persecuted' in Malaysia etc... and then the 'right of free passage' of Chinese troops etc*, which is bearing fruit with the base(s) being built in
Cambo etc.

Ages ago... I think before North got here ... credit where credit is due....

*a very old concept wherein a powerful armed nation says to a neighbour - we only want to cross your territory so we can have at the neighbour beyond you... meaning we will live like locusts off your land while crossing... and unless you agree we'll do it anyway and maybe more.....

It's in Shakespeare's Hamlet - Fortinbras (Strong Arm)... smart guy Shakespeare... Hamlet kills the new king who killed his father, then dies himself, leaving this armed force on Danish territory... wonder who would be taking the crown, eh?

It's OK, Graps... You can take the credit! I'm good with that! Although it's a bit like arguing 'Who's on first...'.

All imperialist and expansionist potentates prefer moral justification to invade territory, otherwise it's hard to galvanise support within the military, and the people, to go to war.

But the signs were always there from the beginning...

Xi intends to be 'the Great Helmsman' (like Mao, although he intends to eclipse him in ambition) and rule an expanded China as an absolute emperor. Hitler became 'Der Führer',  borrowed from Mussolini's 'Il Duce' and Ioseb Besarionis dzе Jughashvili became 'Stalin' and 'Vozhd'.

All had ambitions of territorial gain. Dictators have no choice... Their slogan has to be 'war all the time' or their reason-for-being becomes moot.

To do that, they need to maintain a sense of moral 'outrage' and sense of superiority, imbued into those they rule absolutely, against 'the other' (e.g.. the 'foreign devil', 'untermenschen') under a singular (yet irrelevant) ideology.

Xi intends to cement his totalitarian regime within the next year, which will include: total suppression of any residual dissent, the purging and murder of remaining opponents, a further regimentising and surveillance of the Chinese people, and subjugation of the world (he's like Hitler and Stalin in that respect).

Expect Mao-style purges, more abusive posturing against other nations and the demonising of 'foreigners' - which won't be hard in China as the notion of 'foreign devils' is well established.

Finally, 1935 has another significance... It was the year before an Olympic Games for Hitler, as 2021 is for Xi... If key countries boycott the 2022 Winter Olympics (as they didn't in 1936), it will be a sign to Xi that the democratic world is seriously united against the Chinese regime (this is likely the current motivation for Xi to order his 'wolf wankers' to 'tone it down a bit'; as Hitler and Goebbels did in 1935).



Nah - you know more about this than I do - I'm one with a vast store of knowledge about many things while you seem more specific. I skate across the broad lakes while you plumb the depths more...

Team work... as long as the message gets out there.... now where's our homegrown Jesse Owens...

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 4th, 2021 at 11:39am

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP


*Does not apply domestically


He does not consider Tibet or Hong Kong another country ?

Or the small nations China has in economic slavery due to 'lending them money', then taking away their infrastructure?

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 4th, 2021 at 1:08pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 4th, 2021 at 10:58am:
Team work... as long as the message gets out there.... now where's our homegrown Jesse Owens...

A good reference regarding Jesse Owens...

There was hope for some that Owens' performance would dent Nazi sense of racial superiority.

It didn't, even with the help of Leni Riefenstahl's infatuation with Owens and her magnificent images of him.

Owens was forgotten quickly and the Nazis continued to drag Germany into a hell of their making.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 7th, 2021 at 7:07am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 8:36am:
chilling messages [sent] to foreigners already indefinitely detained, as sent to Australian journalist, Cheng Lei, during Stan Grant's interview with CGTN reporter Liu Xin. Through her stumbling and highly edited interview with Grant, Liu Xin first denied any close association with Lei then sent these messages: "I hope her children are taken good care of [] and I hope and I trust that she'll get a fair trial". Shouldn't it be a given that Cheng Lei's children are taken good care of and that she is given a fair trial? And no doubt that interview will be shown to Cheng Lei to terrify her more than she no doubt already is. One of the most appalling interviews I've seen on Australian TV.

Seems the ABC (and/or) Stan Grant has pulled the plug on 'China Tonight' after last week's 'effort'.

Bit of a backlash on the interview with Liu Xin, it seems.

Last night's episode was the end.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by athos on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:24pm

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP
*Does not apply domestically


*Non of your business.
First check your convict Anglo Disneyland.
:)

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:33pm

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP
*Does not apply domestically


*Non of your business.
First check your convict Anglo Disneyland.

Chinelish garbage, as usual.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by athos on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:48pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP
*Does not apply domestically


*Non of your business.
First check your convict Anglo Disneyland.

Chinelish garbage, as usual.


Please be civilized and suppress your racist feelings.
Thank you
:)

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:56pm

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP
*Does not apply domestically


*Non of your business.
First check your convict Anglo Disneyland.

Chinelish garbage, as usual.


Please be civilized and suppress your racist feelings.
Thank you
:)

I haven't seen 'no foreigners allowed' or 'no blacks allowed' outside Australian restaurants yet.

BTW you stupid wumao fart... denigrating Australians as Anglo-Saxons is racist...

Racism and xenophobia is rife among the Chinese in China... and you'd know that... You'd have seen all those clips taking the piss out of non-Chinese races.

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by athos on Jul 7th, 2021 at 2:05pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:56pm:

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP
*Does not apply domestically


*Non of your business.
First check your convict Anglo Disneyland.

Chinelish garbage, as usual.


Please be civilized and suppress your racist feelings.
Thank you
:)

I haven't seen 'no foreigners allowed' or 'no blacks allowed' outside Australian restaurants yet.

BTW you stupid wumao fart... denigrating Australians as Anglo-Saxons is racist...

Racism and xenophobia is rife among the Chinese in China... and you'd know that... You'd have seen all those clips taking the piss out of non-Chinese races.


Certainly when you first kill them.
:)

Title: Re: China Has Never ...
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 7th, 2021 at 2:09pm

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 2:05pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:56pm:

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 11:23pm:
“We have never bullied, oppressed, or subjugated the people of any other country, and we never will.” – Xi’s speech on the 100th anniversary of the CCP
*Does not apply domestically


*Non of your business.
First check your convict Anglo Disneyland.

Chinelish garbage, as usual.


Please be civilized and suppress your racist feelings.
Thank you
:)

I haven't seen 'no foreigners allowed' or 'no blacks allowed' outside Australian restaurants yet.

BTW you stupid wumao fart... denigrating Australians as Anglo-Saxons is racist...

Racism and xenophobia is rife among the Chinese in China... and you'd know that... You'd have seen all those clips taking the piss out of non-Chinese races.


Certainly when you first kill them.
:)

Do you eat them as well?

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