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Title: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 18th, 2021 at 9:16am
The little old lady up the road kept hearing something in the wall.
She described it as a hissing or crackling sound. On examination I found the powerpoint was a little less than perfect. Water from a roof leak had run down inside the cavity and was shorting a little bit. Replaced and the leak now fixed. whatcha recon? ![]() |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Belgarion on Jun 18th, 2021 at 9:29am
Lucky the lady was on the ball and noticed the noise, and that you were able to help. Could have ended badly.
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 18th, 2021 at 10:44am
Holy crap, that was a close call! :o
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 18th, 2021 at 12:25pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 9:29am:
I tend to be the go to for the elderly in the street and people they know. Sometimes the job is too big for me to fix, so I get someone in, like a blocked sewer pipe (not for me) But reasonably simple stuff or even just replacing bulbs I consider my civic duty. And its good for the Karma. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 18th, 2021 at 12:45pm
The real concern is an unqualified amateur granny exploiter tampering with electrical wiring which is in fact illegal.
If Valkie had any morals he would have hired a competent licensed electrician to perform the work. Now when the granny dies in a house fire from defective wiring her heirs can sue Valkie. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:00pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 9:29am:
Back again today, this time her tap washer was destroyed. Why do old people turn off taps soo hard. I replaced both sink tap washers and the shower washers. Lucky I have plenty of them, I was given about 100 buy an old guys wife when he passed away. He knew I helped people and thought I could use them. At least I didn't have to re-seat the washers, it was simply over tightening of them. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:23pm Valkie wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 9:16am:
ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Gordon on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:46pm
Good catch.
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:23pm
If her house burns down now due to an electrical fault, and the insurance company finds out Valkie was the last one to do electrical work, it would invalidate any insurance claims unless he has an electrical license.
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:28pm John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:23pm:
Correct Rumpole. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by cods on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:49pm
perhaps the lady didnt have the money for an electrician...would you have left her with this [op] I cant for the life of me see either of you putting your hand in your own pocket... >:( >:( >:( mean people never do!
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:58pm cods wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:49pm:
calm you tits cods. Whats wrong with you? I'm just pointing out the legal ramifications of what he's doing. Personally I think he's done a good thing, I've done similar many times ...but when I did it I did so knowing my legal position. I certainly wouldn't be providing photographic evidence online if I were in his shoes |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Neferti on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:25pm John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:58pm:
Are you for real? Why would the "insurance company" or anybody else take a look at good old OzPol for "evidence" ;D. You are sounding like your ex-lawyer pal. ::) |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:34pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:28pm:
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 21st, 2021 at 7:02pm Neferti wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:25pm:
so you've DOXED everyone on here and therefore know what EVERYONE does for a living? |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 21st, 2021 at 7:18pm Neferti wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:25pm:
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:18pm
It's so sad.
These troll are so fixated on attacking me that they look no further than their own inadequacies. They do not know me, nor my qualifications. But what's a little thing like facts when they are trolling. Perhaps there is no charity in their makeup. Perhaps they are far too stupid to understand that not everyone is as unqualified and incompetent as they are. I help people. It's what I do. I mow their lawns, change washers and globes Set up their tv's and fix things that break. My formal qualifications are more than adequate to do these and many other things. The total stupidity of these trolls and the rabid attacks on me are quite funny to me. It's like a mechanic being advised by a dole bludgers who has never worked. Which is about what they are by their lack of knowledge. A mater of fact for them Do you change your oil or check you tyre pressures? Probably not, they couldn't find the hood catch, if they can even afford a car on the dole. But if they did, their warranty is shot....they be not qualified. Even changing a light globe requires an electrical licence...technically. I can just imagine them calculating the possibility of an additional PowerPoint. Or woukd they even have the slightest understanding of ohms law? Highly doubtful. Could they calculate the fall of a waste pipe, know the basics of pressure calculations? These troll fools have no idea. And watching them sling mud, for no reason other than they themselves are totally inadequate and therefore see everyone in the same light. One day, if they ever grow up. They too might be of some worth, helping people or even contributing to society. But with each post of theirs I read, This small hope withers and dies. So sad to live as they do. It's not really living is it, it's simply existing, a lonely, futile and worthless existence. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by cods on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 6:31am Neferti wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:25pm:
they believe THIS IS the real world nef.. ;D ;D ;D I guess its matches the narrow world they actually live in :-/ :-/ |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Neferti on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 8:09am Valkie wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:18pm:
Don't worry about the fools like Smiff and Co, Valkie. I would be most grateful if you were my neighbour and could fix a few little things for me. Changing tap washers for example .... I wonder whether Smiff and Co call in the "experts" and pay good money every time something around their house needs "fixing", just in case the place burns down and the Insurance Company browses around OzPol to see who is posting pictures of stuff? ;D ;D |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 8:37am Quote:
They worry me not. I enjoy helping people, especially those who cannot help themselves. The old bloke up the road was an ambulance driver in his youth, a soldier and volunteered in several groups when he was able. But a stroke has left him infirm, he knows what needs to be done, he just cannot do it and it frustrates him. I help him out and he looks on, we have a great laugh and he likes the company. He offers me beers, but I dont drink, so he has a beer and I work. I leave his house happier for the experience in so many ways. The trolls will never know this boost to ones heart, both because they would never do it and because they have no hearts. :'( :'( |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 24th, 2021 at 1:55pm
Finally got around to post a picture of the washers.
Have you ever seen washers so worn out? Apparently, at some stage, they had springs on the back to make them seat better with less effort. Too bad the springs have been crushed so badly over time. ![]() |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 24th, 2021 at 4:44pm rhino wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 7:18pm:
ok, thats you and goober covered, now what about the rest? |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 24th, 2021 at 4:45pm Valkie wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:18pm:
who's attacking you ya retard? |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 24th, 2021 at 5:42pm John Smith wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 4:45pm:
Keep practising that hanky folding, you'll get it. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 24th, 2021 at 6:43pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 5:42pm:
shut up stupid ... if I wanted an idiot to comment I would have called for bobby. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:32pm
Such vitriol
Must have hit a nerve. Oh well, I guess I'll just lose some sleep tonight. ......... Probably not. ![]() |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 24th, 2021 at 9:36pm
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 24th, 2021 at 9:38pm
bananas are actually a type of grass.
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 25th, 2021 at 9:05am
The ball peen hammer is oft incorrectly called a ball pain hammer.
This is because 90% of people have no idea what peening is. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2021 at 5:29pm Valkie wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 9:05am:
Karnal knows what preening is. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2021 at 6:18pm John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:23pm:
If the Ins Coy finds out unregistered electrical work has been done, the contract is null and void. And, they look for that. They will find it . |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
they look for any excuse to not pay |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:31am John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 6:37pm:
Yes, its always better to leave it until an electrician can eventually turn up. Even if the house burns down in the meantime. Changing out a powerpoint is hardly a job requiring electrical engineering qualifications. But in your case, even changing a light globe would be be taxing you capabilities to the limit. By the way, A simple poem for a simple person like you. It may save you one day Lefty loosy..righty tighty Use it when ever you undo a screw, bolt can or bottle I Know it will amaze you, but that's why you sometimes cannot open bottle of coke. moron |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Carl D on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:50am Valkie wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 9:05am:
Might also be because at least 90% of people have hit their thumbs or fingers instead of the nail, etc. on one or more occasions. Of course, if you accidentally hit yourself in the nuts with it then calling it a "ball pain hammer" is 100% correct. :o I know someone who used to call it a ball pea hammer. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Carl D on Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:20am
I'm pretty sure it is the same for everywhere in Australia but here in WA you are not allowed to do any mains electrical work such as changing power points unless you are a licenced electrician.
A tenpin bowling centre I worked in as a tech many years ago used to get us to do things like changing power points and light fittings, etc. because they didn't want to pay for an electrician. We even did electrical work on the pinsetters' electrical boxes which had a 3 phase 415 volt input (which just ran the 3 phase motor, a transformer was then used for the 240, 115 and 24 volt 'secondaries' for other machine functions). This all stopped when we pointed out to the management that, as John and Sprint have said, if there was an electrical fire and the building was badly damaged or destroyed their insurance would be null and void if the insurance company found that unlicenced electrical work had been done regardless of whether or not that work was responsible for the fire. The other concern was (as the head tech and I talked about often) if there was a fire and the insurance company found unlicenced electrical work we were sure the management would have "ducked for cover" and denied any knowledge about asking us to do any electrical work and they would have blamed us (not that it would have "unvoided" their insurance policy). We were sure the same thing would have happened if we'd been electrocuted doing unlicenced work (we all had a few 'zaps' over the years). |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Carl D on Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:30am
The attached picture is the electrical box of lane 3 shortly after I started working in the abovementioned tenpin bowling centre in July 1988. All 24 were pretty much the same.
The centre opened in November 1962 and you can see the results of over 25 years of 'dodgy' wiring repairs at the time (love the safety pin on the motor contactor). ;D The 3 phase input is on the left side of the box, transformer on the right. All 24 boxes were cleaned up and rewired by a local electrician a few months after that picture was taken mainly because the old guy who did all the electrical work was retiring and no-one else could make head or tail of the wiring (every box was different in some way). ![]() |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 27th, 2021 at 11:34am Carl D wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:30am:
Looks nasty, but if you have opened any heavy machine electrical boxes, they mostly look pretty much like that when you get into them. Especially the older ones. Wiring for Lathes, Milling machines, shapers, mills, basically any heavy machinery is difficult. There isnt a nice clean place to run wires and they tend to be placed wherever they can fit. Older machines, Like the ones I worked on, had some seriously old style relays and even has wrapped wiring (those who know what I mean will understand). They also suffer badly from heat, fluid ingress and sometimes overheating due to hard use. One particular Russian made rolling mill was so bad we had to rewire it from front to back. They only used two colours and sometimes it was very hard to work out what went where. Took us a week, but afterward the operator said it had never worked as well. People today are used to seeing nice pretty organised Computer style wiring (well neater than old control boxes). Messy control boxes tend to frighten them a bit. When operating, old mechanical relays spark and flash sometimes, that gets some of the less experienced ones jumping. I've been working on this shite for over 40 years. I have seen some of the most dangerous things you can imagine. One 500 mm segmented wheel horizontal grinder start switch had been smashed. I found them using bare wires to start up the grinder by intermittently touching the wires to each other until it got up to speed. Linking them straight up would blow the fuse. Then they simply hooked the wires around each other to keep it running. It was three phase 415 for goodness sake. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Carl D on Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:49pm
Here's another couple from my 1988 collection:
https://i.imgur.com/Kd95YMz.jpg The top picture was lane 9, note the second transformer which someone managed to squeeze (sideways) into the middle of the box, this was for the bowlers' trouble system where they pushed a button on the ball return up front when there was a lane problem and a loud bell would ring at the back and a small light came on above the machine concerned to alert the tech. From memory, there were 3 extra transformers for the trouble system, one in lane 1's box (for lanes 1-8), another in lane 9's box (for 9-16) and the last in lane 17's box (for 17-24). When the electrician rewired all the boxes he removed the extra transformers from those 3 boxes and set everything up for the trouble system so the power for each machine's trouble call button/light came from their own transformer (as it should have been done in 1962). The bottom picture was lane 7's box after it was rewired. It wasn't the same as the original Brunswick Model A Pinsetter wiring diagram but it was easy to check and fix things especially since the electrician provided us with a new wiring diagram and he wired all 24 boxes exactly the same. The 3 'ice cube' plug in relays he used (in the centre of the rewired box) were also a welcome change, no more sodding around with a soldering iron and screwdriver, etc. when a relay needed changing. Oh, these boxes did have covers on them when they weren't being worked on (or photographed). :) |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:29pm Valkie wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:31am:
Most electricians offer a 24 hr emergency service ya moron Valkie wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:31am:
Are you under some sort of impression that I write the rules? I suspect, based on the stupidity you continually display on here, that the only engineering qualifications you have are how to engineer more bullshit stories. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 27th, 2021 at 5:15pm John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:29pm:
You got a hard-on for me moron. You seem to be chasing my posts just to insult me. News buddy, your insults are pathetic and weak, surely you can do better. Quite Simply, I'm better than you in too many ways to count, so your insults are nothing but laughable. As for qualifications, I have plenty, more than you burger flipping certificate from Maccas. You can chose to believe it or not, it matters not to me in the slightest. One day you might man up and actually get a job, get off the dole and work for a living. But I highly doubt that, its not in your mentality to actually contribute. Night Night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite...under your bridge ![]() |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 27th, 2021 at 6:45pm Valkie wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 5:15pm:
I call out bullshit when I see it ... if you get called out more than most it's because you bullshit more than most. Valkie wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 5:15pm:
you're not even better than my toenail, let alone the rest of me. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by Valkie on Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:54pm
That's ok, whatever you say that makes you feel better about yourself.
But deep down, you know just how worthless you are. You proclivity to find fault with everyone, to put down everyone, to insult everyone. Speaks volumes about your self worth. You feel that you have to drag everyone down to your level. Just to make yourself feel even a little adequate. Have a nice mediocre life. Loser |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:04pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:11pm
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John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:23pm:
Im calling bullsh1t on this claim. Name one person this has happened to. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:09pm rhino wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:11pm:
why? you think if I name them you'll know them? here, this is from Youi (an insurer) Quote:
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:20pm John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:09pm:
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[/quote]Only one problem, none of that is listed on your insurance policy, have a look. |
Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by rhino on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:22pm
Its an urban myth. What happens if you buy a house with previously unlicensed work? And how do they know its unlicensed? Theres no legislation which requires a homeowner to keep records of all electrical work done in the house. Its all bullsh1t.
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Title: Re: bit of a concern....perhaps Post by John Smith on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:53pm rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:20pm:
only if you totally ignore the extract from the insurance company rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:20pm:
none of what? rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:22pm:
I did say 'if they find out' ::) |
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