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Title: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2021 at 4:14am
Neo-Nazi ex-Ukip member jailed for 18 years for terror offences
Dean Morrice described by judge as ‘dangerous neo-Nazi’ who pumped out racist propaganda online A former Ukip member who posted violent racist, antisemitic and Islamophobic propaganda online and collected the means for making bombs has been jailed for 18 years. Dean Morrice had ball bearings, pipes and instructions for an improvised explosive device (IED) by the time his home was raided last year, and the judge at Kingston crown court said it was “fortunate” that police arrested him when they did. “You have described yourself as a patriot. You are not a patriot, you are a dangerous neo-Nazi, your bigotry and hatred is abhorrent to the overwhelming majority in this country,” Judge Peter Lodder said. He said it was clear that Morrice revered those responsible for massacres in New Zealand and Norway and the bombing of a US government building Oklahoma, and had attempted to “fool” the jury into thinking he was a caring family man. Morrice, 34, of Paulton, near Bristol, who worked for a time for the army, was convicted last week of 10 counts related to terrorism and explosives, all of which he denied. He ran a Telegram channel that prosecutors said had “unapologetically, unambiguously pumped out” neo-Nazi propaganda that encouraged the killing of people of colour and Jewish people. A previous hearing was told that Morrice had made a video of himself strumming along on a guitar to footage of the 2019 Christchurch terror attacks. Lodder said Morrice had shown no remorse. “You attempted to fool the jury into thinking that you are a family-orientated, caring man who was simply trying to find friends. In the witness box you cried as you spoke of missing your own children. “Yet you revelled in the Christchurch mosque massacre in which children as young as three years old were murdered, and glorified Brevijk who slaughtered more than 30 children in Norway.” The judge instructed that the custodial element of a 23-year sentence should be 18 years. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/14/ex-ukip-member-dean-morrice-given-23-year-sentence-for-terror-offences?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3yoAV52xHAMk2N0d3N56taMWxR2uL-t2Z3r9QB213LE6NfiM0ptB-R37E#Echobox=1623688152 |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:36am
Phew - those Brits...... they can be so extreme one way or the other..... unlike we Australians who are mostly somewhere in the middle..... unless, of course, you are a 'leftie' on the rampage...
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 15th, 2021 at 7:06am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:36am:
your trolling is tranparent Spot |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2021 at 7:31am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 7:06am:
Just stating facts... we don't have neo-Nazis here - there have been some self-avowed Nazis, but they seem to have vanished. There may still be a Nazi party around somewhere, but it hardly rates a mention these days. Not everyone who disagrees with a policy thrust is a Nazi ..... being a Nazi is more than simply disagreeing with one issue, and the term is vastly over-used by those seeking to destroy any discussion of differing views. That's why I got in early - to get mothra going on her high horse... bites like a shark.... 8-) |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 15th, 2021 at 9:46am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 7:31am:
Whilst I agree with you graps, its also true that extreme RW terrorism is a concern. (and yes Islamic terrorism is also a concern) |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2021 at 11:37am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 9:46am:
Indeed, we have some people who might be called 'right wing extremists' - often, of course they are upset over some or many things and are 'venting' in one way or another. Some of them go so far as to 'train' like some militia and research things like bomb making. Most of them never really amount to anything, and likes of Tarrant are the aberration. (I have yet to hear anyone support what he did, but then... not to say some don't). Same applies to some Muslims (and others), too. I had the privilege of chatting with the convicted Ananda Marga Hilton bomber way back while he was in prison - I felt he was not guilty and could see no valid reason why his group would even consider such a thing. He was later released. It's a strange little episode in Australian history, and needs a further look if you ask me. Someone did it. Yes - I was present at the bombing within five minutes of it. Stupid if you ask me, but someone made a statement. Anyway - to be long-winded - most of the people who actually go down the path of being an urban or homegrown terrorist are pretty dumb, and are acting out often unthought out grievance without full consideration of the actual outcomes. It's like they are watching a movie or are part of one - they tend to think they will go to the set canteen after it's over or something and cannot really envisage the public outrage and judicial hostility they will meet. A bit like people who suicide thinking that somehow they will see how that sets others on their heels... strange thinking is what it is in most cases. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 15th, 2021 at 11:39am
Agree, its extremism of any form thats the issue and should be stamped out.
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:53pm
Valkie had better watch out
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by rhino on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:56pm
I was just thinking that.
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:58pm rhino wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:56pm:
I'm actually surprise he hasn't already been pinged ... some of the crap he puts up here. Especially when the 'boat people' issue was at it's peak. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by rhino on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:59pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 7:31am:
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by rhino on Jun 15th, 2021 at 7:01pm John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:58pm:
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2021 at 8:33pm rhino wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
Really? How does this member stack up against the Black supremacists and the foreign supremacists? |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by rhino on Jun 15th, 2021 at 8:58pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 8:33pm:
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by issuevoter on Jun 15th, 2021 at 9:45pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 11:39am:
Well, whatever you call it, it needs to be stamped out, but it is not "extremism." Because that would imply there is a milder form of Nazism, just as it would imply there is a mild form of Islam. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 12:03am rhino wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 8:58pm: [/quote] Nah - they have no Voice..... only a few apologists who demand something or other without ever specifying what it is, so nobody can even address the issue of "Black Land - Always Was, Always Will Be!" Now WTF is that supposed to mean given that others have property rights etc? You surely know by now that the Blackophiles here never give any definitive answer as to what the Blacks NEED to get by and prosper and improve themselves - or even what they think they want.... Offering no solid answer leaves the field open to endless carping about what they want without ever specifying what it is they want, and leads to one claim after another without ever approaching resolution. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 12:05am
One man's Neo-Nazi is another man's freedom fighter..... what's good for the goose is good for the gander...
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 16th, 2021 at 5:11am issuevoter wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 9:45pm:
You mean it isnt extremism because you would be in that bucket? Spot |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by issuevoter on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:35am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 12:05am:
That's because the one man who thinks a Nazi is a freedom fighter is either a Nazi himself or delusional. In fact, that cliche about perspective is an indecent affront to civilised people. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by mothra on Jun 16th, 2021 at 5:00pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 7:31am:
What a load of absolute horseshit. This is up there with you claiming that Australian men don't rape. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by mothra on Jun 16th, 2021 at 5:01pm issuevoter wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:35am:
Or at least, like Grap, sympathetic with neo-nazi ideology. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:52pm mothra wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
What an absolute load of horseshit - a comment is all it is - same as 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter'. Get out more.. you are desperately grasping for any toehold against those who refuse to allow your kind to dictate the terms of our world. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:54pm issuevoter wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:35am:
Really - so would you say that one man's Black activist shop burner is another man's freedom fighter? Where's your perspective, boy? I merely commented on a social phenomenon.... YOU? Get up in arms like dear mothra over nothing at all... Get out more..... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:56pm
Great 'trigger' word that - Nazi.... gets 'em going every time....
Do the same people apply the same standard to other groups which often are responsible for far greater crimes against humanity? Thinking caps, people... leave your emotional disorders out of discussion and you might learn something about the world you live in..... or maybe not... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:02pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:56pm:
It certainly got you going ::) |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:08pm
The Ozpolitic right-wing, extremist, hate propagators should also be rounded up and frog-marched to detention.
There is nothing "neo" about Ozpolitic Nazis, they are all old school and no school. Grappler, Valkie, and their Ozpolitic ilk should fear the knock or explosion on their doors from the anti-terror authorities. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:15pm
One woman's feminist is another woman's freedom fighter......
The list is endless.... One man's laugh til you cry is another man's freedom fighter... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:16pm John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
**hauls smith into the boat and into the fish hold** Frankly, I'm all over you clowns like a cheap suit.... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:17pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:16pm:
Give it a rest GNOME |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:25pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 12:05am:
One man's Neo-Nazi is another man's Grappler or Valkie, or both. The two of them surgically joined wouldn't make one freedom fighter. However, sexually joined they are potent. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 12:18am
Thought I'd give you assholes a while to primp your egos before slicing you again:-
The Body Ozpol held a discussion one day to determine who should control the forum. The Brains Trust said they should control it because they had the knowledge, the experience and the ability to work things through to a reasonable conclusion. The Heart Followers said they should control it because it was the only way we could possibly keep touch with our humanity. The Guts and Glory Boys said they should control it because they knew what was best for the forum and the country. The filthy Arsehole Trolls, slinking in the background, said they should control it because... well .. they were the best - legends in their own lunch time! The Brains Trust, the Heart Followers and the Guts and Glory Boys all laughed... so the Arsehole Trolls began to sulk, and then they sh1t all over the forum and then clogged up every discussion. After a while the Brains Trust either left or became woozy from countering the bullshit - the Heart Followers gave up hope - the Guts and Glory Boys just moved somewhere else..... and everything slowed down to a crawl of endless rhetoric constipated by endless trolling bullshit. So the Body Ozpol decided to let the Arsehole Trolls run the show.... which goes to show that you don't need any Brains to control a forum, you don't need any Heart, you don't need any Guts - you just need to be a totally selfish Arsehole Troll. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 12:20am John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:17pm:
One man's autistic Smith is another man's fearless freedom fighter for free speech.... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 12:21am Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:25pm:
One man's arsehole LTYC is another man's freedom fighter for free speech..... Come back, good buddy..... you're one of them cyber bullies that Brian mentioned in another post and need to be treated accordingly. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 1:37am
.... and an eerie silence settled over the dusty and smoke-filled battlefield... the only sounds that could be heard were the groans of the dying Trolls.... soon silenced by time or intervention to still their cries .... the red clad sun settled slowly over the blood red field.......
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:29am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 12:18am:
Jesus. You're as mad as Jasin. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:32am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 1:37am:
Here's the thing (although i know from experience there is absolutely no point talking to you .. vacuum sealed head) all of the examples you have listed are about people fighting for representation for being oppressed. Neo-nazis want to do the oppressing. They are nobody's "freedom fighters". They are oppressors. They are scum. And whether you care to admit it or not, not only do we have some in this country, we have some on this forum. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 11:20am mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:32am:
You're serious about that? Start by laying out for us exactly what this 'oppression' is. A Black activist here is oppressed? Please explain.. A feminist here is oppressed? Please explain... A Muslim terrorist here is oppressed? Please explain... A LTYC or his mates are 'oppressed' here? Please explain.... All you ever do is utter rhetoric and throw labels around with gay abandon.... FYI and that of the other fools here - a comment on something is in no way whatsoever any approval of it.... got that? Talk about the vacuum sealed mind you have.... and the other dopes... One man's Neo-Nazi is another man's freedom fighter.... quite so..... now show me where in that comment there is any that say I approve of Neo-Nazism.... you can't because I do not. God, some of you need to wake up.... you see enemies on all sides.... must be terrible to be you... Why did you need to make peace with your Aboriginal neighbours? What were you doing to them? |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 11:24am mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:29am:
A perfect example of the utter lack of insight and intellect you possess.... you could easily pass for a troll given that the content of what you post is negligible and designed to attack and insult... Hardly my fault you are semi-literate.... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 11:29am
Quite simple really - for those of little real understanding..... a Neo-Nazi is indeed someone's freedom fighter.... so the saying holds true for them as much as for anyone else.....
On ACA last night there was a report of a group of fifteen or so lead by some ex-Army guy, down Victoria way, and with 40 or so affiliates. Are you prepared to say that none of these guys considers the others as 'freedom fighters' - by their own definition, of course. Of course, in the eyes of the civilised, they are as mad as some jumped-up terrorist Musso or feminazi or whatever who attacks this society and harms people in it. Personally I find it way out of bounds for anyone to get that worked up over any ideology, to the point of inflicting harm on others. Now go think on this for a day or so..... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 17th, 2021 at 1:43pm
Angry, tired, useless old farts, Old-school Nazi Grappler, and no-school Nazi Valkie are getting their underwear twisted by Neo Nazis stealing their thunder.
There is no social disease infestation like these belligerent useless old farts. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 17th, 2021 at 4:57pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 12:20am:
so I'm a freedom fighter ... your point Gnome? ::) GNOME - Grumpy Negative Old Man Energy. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 7:44pm
::) ::) ... the rising tide of illiteracy under a feminist sky..... ::) ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 7:47pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 11:20am:
mothra - as usual - still waiting for some definitive answers instead of the Usual Suspect socks pouring in to try to divert the discussion... and as usual failing in their inimitable way... Any answers anywhere on the horizon?? |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2021 at 2:08pm mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 4:14am:
This race-baiting fascist psychonanalyst, on the other hand, is published in the Journal of American Psychoanalysis. Go figure, as they say. On Having Whiteness Donald Moss PMID: 34039063 DOI: 10.1177/00030651211008507 Abstract Whiteness is a condition one first acquires and then one has-a malignant, parasitic-like condition to which "white" people have a particular susceptibility. The condition is foundational, generating characteristic ways of being in one's body, in one's mind, and in one's world. Parasitic Whiteness renders its hosts' appetites voracious, insatiable, and perverse. These deformed appetites particularly target nonwhite peoples. Once established, these appetites are nearly impossible to eliminate. Effective treatment consists of a combination of psychic and social-historical interventions. Such interventions can reasonably aim only to reshape Whiteness's infiltrated appetites-to reduce their intensity, redistribute their aims, and occasionally turn those aims toward the work of reparation. When remembered and represented, the ravages wreaked by the chronic condition can function either as warning ("never again") or as temptation ("great again"). Memorialization alone, therefore, is no guarantee against regression. There is not yet a permanent cure. Keywords: aggression; envy; groups; racism. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34039063/ |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 18th, 2021 at 11:30pm
Don't bother answering mothra and challenging her for facts and such - she has learned well under the teaching of Chairman Mao, and now, instead of engaging in set piece battles over her views, which she never wins and never will, she has resorted to the classical sniping attack, followed by simply not being there when the righteous artillery and air strikes utterly devastate her position.
We have a few here like that... though she is of a different kind - most of those hide behind a cloud of smoke-screen or squid's ink - the one thing they all have in common is that they never once ever actually address the subject they claim to be promoting, but prefer sniping and then running like a yellow chicken. mothra will be back some time tomorrow with another sniping attack - and the moment you lay down some serious retaliatory fire by demanding answers, she will be nowhere to be seen.... no answers to hard questions, no response to any call to justify her position.... just gone like a craven coward. It's the way of the defeated ideologue desperately fighting a last ditch defence of the undefensible.... as I said - there are a few like that, and what it shows clearly is that they are well and truly back on their heels and know they have nothing to argue - but that won't stop them - they are too invested to ever give up that ship. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by mothra on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:30am
Don't take my refusal to engage you as aq victory, Grap. It is simply a result of my weariness with telling you the same things over and over again to get absolutely nowhere. Years upon years of you repeating yourself into cyberspace and you're correct about as often as a broken clock.
Whilst you remain adamant that white men are laughably the most put upon demographic, you're incapable of seeing reason. God knows i've tried over the years. It's pointless. See how the flexible mind can learn? |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 19th, 2021 at 10:40am mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:32am:
Several, actually. Let's not forget that when that white-supremacist Australian terrorist killed 51 people in New Zealand, there were people in this forum who cheered him on. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:05pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 10:40am:
I don't recall anyone here cheering him on - are you doing a mothra and reading in to suit your own prejudices? We denounced him here - and he was a New Zulland terrorist ... should give him a Gitmo treatment until he gives up his conferes... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:09pm mothra wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:30am:
I'm merely lauding you for your change of tactics, given that you can't win a set piece battle... shows a degree of native cunning ... By what right do you get to dictate to others what is truth and what is not? By what right to you get to demand that they accept your view unconditionally? You little Stalino-Fascist you (chucks cheek)... Where's my white male privilege? Not going to answer how any of your chosen groups are actually 'oppressed' in this country? I know it's hard when you are asked to give solid answers, but still - you could try.... Tell me how Mussos, Blacks, women, Gays and all the rest are 'oppressed' in Australia... 8-) |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:04pm mothra wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:30am:
Extensively quoting the Granuiad or the ABC is not 'reasoning', Bbwian, sorry, Mothra. Critical race theory, white privilege are stupid propaganda by the activists, not reasoning. As with Pascoe, these fantasies have been extensively debunked but their defenders simply refuse to engage with any critical views, desorting instead to what you just posted - empty generalisation - or yawning, eterolling and repetitious empty generalisation. Calling such resposes 'reasoning' is specious nonsense since no actual reasoning has been presented. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:18pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:05pm:
Memory loss is not a nice thing, so I feel for you. The fact remains though, forum members here cheered him on and one even said that he should have killed more. There are several neo-Nazi/white-supremacists among us. Don't forget that. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:25pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:18pm:
Like Muslims cheering the collapse of the WTC towers, remember? |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:38pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
Which Muslim member/s of this forum did that? I'm curious. Just to recap: Forum members here cheered on the Australian white-supremacist terrorist who killed 51 people in New Zealand and one forum member here even said that he should have killed more. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:41pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:05pm:
you were probably busy playing the Gnome victim on an other thread |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 19th, 2021 at 4:46pm John Smith wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:41pm:
One man's semi-literate and abusive John Smith is another man's fearless fighter for free speech.... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 5:31pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
So Muslims elsewhere did cheer the collapse of the towers. Ta. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 19th, 2021 at 6:10pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 5:31pm:
From what I remeber, several people did. And, it was absolutely disgusting. Just to recap, though: Forum members here cheered on the Australian white-supremacist terrorist who killed 51 people in New Zealand and one forum member here even said that he should have killed more. Did you cheer on the Australian terrorist, Frank? I've never seen you condemn him or his actions. Are you a neo-Nazi/white-supremacist? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 19th, 2021 at 6:47pm
Mothra the highly educated simply does not comprehend the concept of "one man's ---- is another man's ---- ----", and imagines that as a social commentary and issue it only applies to dissident groups that she loves.
This is a failing inflicted upon many of you, who continue to imagine that only those with Accredited Victimhood Status can be self-perceived 'freedom fighters'..... or at least perceived to be that by their followers and blind running dogs... What difference is there between a Leftist murderer and a Rightist murderer? Between a Leftist or Mad Musso or similar who engages in mass killing and some Rightist who engages in mass killing? Or a mad feminist who wishes to destroy Western civilisation in some insane pursuit of some mythical and chimerical patriarchy, and cares not how many innocents die or suffer as a result?? They Are All Criminals - and belonging to a social group with Accredited Victim Status is not a lawful defence. What difference is there between the attempt at oppression by some non-specific and vast minority 'right wing group' HERE who have yet to actually achieve anything, and the strivings for control and thus oppression of the majority by the likes of feminists, Mussos, and Blacks?? A Deputy Commissioner NSW Police tonight said that while there was increasing focus on 'extreme Right Wing Groups' here, the PRIMARY focus remained on 'religion-based extremism/terrorism"... Buggar those Baptists and Mormons and Buddhists.... get 'em under control NOW! |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 19th, 2021 at 6:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 6:10pm:
Failure of memory is not a serious problem - it happens to everyone at times... but in your case there may be help available. Who were these people who praised Tarrant for murdering innocent Muslims? And quote them. Don't be shy now. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 7:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 6:10pm:
1. "From what you remember" - that smells like the usual gweggy rat poo. 2. "Condemn his actions" - another gweggy rat poo, as are the questions about nazism and supremacy. Nobody here approves mass murder and nobody wants anything but the full force of the law to deal with mass murderers. I have not seen anyone here approving, condoning, encouraging mass murder, this or any other. What I absolutely refuse - and which you, Bbwian, Anal K et al, being deceptive turds, will exploit for ever - is to accept YOUR parameters and premises when discussing such matters. Your sly questions are calculated to push people into your paradigm of seeing and judging. I am not in agreement with you about WHY such mass murder happens or why it is wrong. This does not mean that I approve of mass murder, as you try to nudge me. That "I'm curious" tag is your idiotic spineless dad's version of yawning eye rolling, or your Anal K cuz's "you?". You are all, nevertheless, dishonest, simple-minded idiots in the same way. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 19th, 2021 at 7:30pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 7:12pm:
you haven't been looking. They most certainly did cheer on the guy that shot all the muslims in NZ for one example |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Belgarion on Jun 19th, 2021 at 11:19pm John Smith wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 7:30pm:
Show us who, where and when. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:00am
I remember Muslims dancing in the streets at 911 - I don't recall anyone doing anything like that here or anywhere else as regards Christchurch (Mohamedmosque).
I'm sure there would have been a few here and there who thought it was a good thing... Jesus (sorry) Allah! One politician was absolutely crucified for saying that such an event was inevitable given the vast number of such incidents created and carried through by Muslims worldwide. Of course, to the narrow-minded, that somehow means he was supporting what that dolt did. Stupid, unthinking people driven like sheep by any emotive comment or 'trigger'. Of course............................ one man's Neo-Nazi is another man's freedom fighter..... come back, good buddies... fast cars, fast food, fast women and fast retorts - that's my bag.... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 20th, 2021 at 5:37am Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 7:12pm:
Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. I can assure you that forum members here cheered on the Australian white-supremacist terrorist who killed 51 people in New Zealand and one forum member here even said that he should have killed more. Whether or not you saw it is completely irrelevant to its truth. Are you a white-supremacist/neo-Nazi? You didn't say. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:51pm
Quote them...............
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:52pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 11:19pm:
go find the threads on the NZ shootings and the posts will be there. I'm not going to search for you just because you're to lazy |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:56pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Belgarion on Jun 20th, 2021 at 2:59pm John Smith wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:52pm:
You are making this claim, yet you fail to provide any evidence...your surrender is noted. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 3:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:56pm:
Interesting..... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 3:37pm John Smith wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:52pm:
Easy, brothers, this is a house of peace..... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 20th, 2021 at 4:22pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 2:59pm:
You're making the claim no one here supported them. Now the onus is on you to prove it. I'm telling you exactly where you'll find them. The rest is up to you, I'm not here to spoon feed you |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 20th, 2021 at 4:25pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 3:36pm:
Disturbing, more like it. Hopefully they're being monitored by the right people, and they'll be stopped before they do any harm. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Belgarion on Jun 20th, 2021 at 5:39pm John Smith wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 4:22pm:
Now you are only embarrassing yourself even more. I have not, in fact made any claim regarding Christchurch killer, but was asking you to show evidence that people here did support his actions. You are unable to do this..Noted. ::) |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 20th, 2021 at 5:46pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 20th, 2021 at 5:49pm I find it quite disturbing that so many forum members here are bending over backwards to defend neo-Nazi/white supremacists. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:36pm John Smith wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 4:22pm:
:D :D Typical Bbwianesque idiocy. You make a claim, you are asked to substantiate it, you can't. Then YOU ask that anyone disputing your unsubstantiated claim should substantiate their not believing your unsubstantiated claim. All you forgot to add is the yawn and the eyerolling tut tutting. Bwian is pwoud of you. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:54pm Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:36pm:
Are you a white supremacist/neo-Nazi, Frank? A simple yes or no will suffice. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 20th, 2021 at 8:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:54pm:
As I said in response to your previous question, I will never go along with your dishonest, devious, Bbwianesque formulations of such questions. The lie and the malice are already screaming out of the way you frame your "questions". |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 21st, 2021 at 11:48am Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 8:30pm:
I'll take that as a 'yes'. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:01pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 11:48am:
Who made you judge, jury and executioner? You sound like mothra here... squid's ink on all sides and no substance... when in doubt steer for the sound of the guns ...in most cases, of course, the sound of those guns is just celebratory fireworks going off and you kill a lot of innocents... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:02pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:01pm:
It was a very simple, straightforward question and he can't answer it. That tells me he has something to hide. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:12pm Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:36pm:
the original claim was you morons saying no one supported them. Live by your own standards and prove it now or forever be known as a complete imbecile |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:20pm John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:12pm:
Not so, Lying John - I said I had not seen anyone actually supporting Tarrant.... lewrn to reed an rite... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:02pm:
Not at all - he refused to answer your loaded question... you should be a police prosecutor.... infer by asking.... many are stupid enough to believe that means the truth. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:30pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:21pm:
It's not loaded. It's straightforward. Q. Are you a white supremacist/neo-Nazi? I can answer it very easily: no. How about you? |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:49pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:21pm:
how was that loaded? :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by aquascoot on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:10pm
if gweggy and smithy are declaring they are definitely not white supremicists, then one would have to think that white supremicists must be doing something right.
if they are excluding sanctimonious holier then though chodes, they are on the correct path in at least that dimension |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:30pm John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 5:49pm:
I'm not sure he understands what a loaded question is. For his benefit, this is an example of a loaded question: Q. Are you still a white supremacist/neo-Nazi? My question, however, was straightforward: Q. Are you a white supremacist/neo-Nazi? I wonder why he won't answer it. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:30pm:
You are a lying, devious and utterly dishonest turd. Your idea of white supremacist/neo-Nazi is in line with your utterly dishonest, lying, devious turdy take on the world. I am not going along with any of your lying, devious, dishonest, turdy takes on white supremacy or neo-Nazism. Accepting any of your takes on this or any other topic is to be sucked into your lying, dishonest, poo-covered world. As you were, turd, bob along. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 21st, 2021 at 11:03pm Frank wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:34pm:
I'll take that as a 'yes'. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 8:45am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:30pm:
Because as a question, it's like a woman asking you if you slept with her friend as someone told her - no answer will ever suffice. Now move on. I'm far more concerned about the Ethnic and Religious Supremacists rampaging around at the moment, as that NSW Deputy Police Commissioner made clear two nights ago when discussing the extreme minority 'white supremacists'. always was Aboriginal land, always will be (supremacism) ... always was the word of Allah rules, always will be (supremacism).... You also need to stop confusing the legitimate concerns of people over changes and agitation for special rights by some groups, with some form of 'supremacism'... that's as stupid as saying that men objecting to being cut out of a fair go at education are holding on to some mythical male privilege... such facile abuse of the English language may suit the ideologues amongst us - but it does not suit the vast majority who know the difference between a hawk and a handsaw.... |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by John Smith on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 7:10pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 8:45am:
;D ;D ;D ;D you've lost it completely you old fool |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 7:39pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 8:45am:
No. It's nothing like that. It's a very straightforward question. His failure to answer tells me he has something to hide. i.e. he's probably a white supremacist/Neo-Nazi. If he wasn't a white supremacist, why wouldn't he just answer 'no'? |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 9:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 7:39pm:
Refusing to answer is a right - it infers nothing. This is not the Spanish Inquisition ..... your powers are limited by reason, decency, sense and centuries of lawmaking and jurisprudence. This is the West, not some Asian or similar turd factory dictatorship... He has the right to remain silent... move on, counsellor... the witness has exercised his rights over this question.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOnRHAyXqYY |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Frank on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 11:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 7:39pm:
Your idea of white supremacist/neo-Nazi is in line with your utterly dishonest, lying, devious turdy take on the world. I am not going along with any of your lying, devious, dishonest, turdy takes on white supremacy or neo-Nazism or anything else. Accepting any of your takes or premises on this or any other topic is to be sucked into your lying, dishonest, shite-covered world. So the answer to your question remains fcck off. Is that a yes or a no? Well, to clarify for you, it's a fcck off and that's how you should take it. Will you? No. You have never taken fcck off for an answer, turd. So bob on. |
Title: Re: Neo-Nazi jailed for 18 years for terror offences Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 25th, 2021 at 11:35pm
The true Neo-Nazis are those who've been tearing down statues and creating their very own Kristallnachts, while burning the content of the books by replacing long-earned knowledge with senseless meanderings.....
In true Aleister Crowley style, since nothing is outside the rightness of feeling, nothing is wrong.... so everything is right as long as it feels right.... Talk about a demented media and academia...... |
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