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Title: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Ajax on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:40am
According to the presenter of this video,
Cancer is a deficiency disease aggravated by the lack of an essential food compound in our diet. That food compound is vitamin B17, other names it goes by are amygdalin and man made and purified laetrile. This food compound can be found in all sorts of berries, in the seeds of grapes and apples, so next time you eat and apple make sure to eat the seeds as well you have to crush them with your teeth or they will more than likely pass through. B17 compound found in the pits or seeds of apricots, apples, peaches, plums, red cherries, and other fruits. It's also in bitter almonds. The richest source of vitamin B17 can be found in the stone of the apricot. Crack open the stone and you will find a bitter almond looking seed inside. Caution though B17 contains cyanide so you dont want to over do it. They say that if you include B17 in your diet chances are you will not get cancer. Of course big pharma will call this out as witch doctor medicine. But here is the info for you to make up your mind on whether it is true or false. So what was the reason they are trying to give us seedless fruit...??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH4mchA7vV0 |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 15th, 2021 at 9:37am Of course big pharma will call this out as witch doctor medicine. A 2015 systematic review from the Cochrane Collaboration found: The claims that laetrile or amygdalin have beneficial effects for cancer patients are not currently supported by sound clinical data. There is a considerable risk of serious adverse effects from cyanide poisoning after laetrile or amygdalin, especially after oral ingestion. The risk–benefit balance of laetrile or amygdalin as a treatment for cancer is therefore unambiguously negative With good reason as it turns out. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Ajax on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:39am
Believe what you want to believe.
For about a month now since I saw this, I have been eating the seeds in that apple a day....... ;) :) |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Ajax on Jun 30th, 2021 at 5:19pm
Just a heads up for anyone who is interested.
On average one apple seed contains 5mg of HCN one apricot seed contains 20mg of HCN Many goodies are found in the seeds so eat them responsibly with common sense. https://food.ndtv.com/health/vitamin-b17-sources-and-why-you-must-not-skip-them-1679476 |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 9:53am Ajax wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:39am:
OK. Take that cyanide then, without any actual benefit. The supposed claims for B17 have always been overblown. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 1st, 2021 at 10:41am Ajax wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:40am:
Ah. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:11pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 9:53am:
So when is B17 good for you, and when is it not good for you? It was good for my stomach lymphoma. I ate 30 apricot seeds a day for three weeks and drank heaps of vege juice. All that was left of the lymphoma after the three weeks was a scar, the specialist could see via his camera shoved down through my esophagus |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:17pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:11pm:
Did you have any other treatment? |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:20pm
I only ask since my understanding is the first line treatment for diffuse B cell lymphoma is CHOP and for MALT lymphoma is antibiotics.
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Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:23pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:17pm:
Helicobacter pylori 7 day course of tablets and capsules |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:24pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:23pm:
Antibiotic treatment to eradicate H. pylori is indicated as first line therapy for MALT lymphomas. About 80% of MALT lymphomas completely regress with eradication therapy.[6] So unfortunately the B17 probably had zero to do with it. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 3:36pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:24pm:
You don't really know do you? At no time was it ever explained that it was "MALT", the specialist even thought it might be carcinoma, then he placed me ahead of lines for scans, and then for chemotherapy. Had I not treated myself with the alternative plan I devised, this would have gone on for months, possibly years, with hair loss, sick as a dog etc, etc. The oncologist explained in brutal verbal language what happens, just so I'd know The cyanide in the seeds is mainly a preventative measure, but if you get in at the early stage of cancer with that cyanide, it will do more good than harm to demolish the tumor. The specialist showed me the photo of my tumor, it was 30mm in size, and I wasn't about to let it get any larger. I asked him if it was benign, he said "No it isn't" As it turned out, it was gone in three weeks, I put it down to the cyanide treatment, and the specialist expressed surprise at such a quick recovery. I never told him what I was doing, it's hush hush, like you'd prefer it to be I'd do it all again if the need arose |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 3:38pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 3:36pm:
When presented with a perfectly rational scientifically based answer for why your lymphoma cleared, you go with the pseudoscientific one. Congrats |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 3:39pm
ancer is a deficiency disease aggravated by the lack of an essential food compound in our diet.
Also this isn't true. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:30pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 3:38pm:
LOL so three weeks wasn't quick enough for a 30mm tumor, you think? And where's the pseudo science, I only told you how things panned out, and they panned out well for me, with all the work I did What's your gripe anyway, do you think I should have gone for chemo? as I was being advised to do Anyone with cancer in it's early stages would do well to gorge on apricot seeds, 30 to 40 a day plus drink lots of vege juice, eat home cooked beetroot, and eat plenty of dark coloured berries, no matter what the cost, there's nothing to lose, and everything to gain, in spite of what doctors say or what they do for you The home treatment is best done concurrently with what ever the specialist or oncologist is doing for you |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:42pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:30pm:
No I dont think you should have gone for chemo, it wasn't recommended for you/ What I'm saying is that in your case the seeds did 2/5 of bugger all and it was the clinically recommended treatment that did it. Its like saying I had a headache, ate donuts and took aspirin and blaming the donuts for your headache going away |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by rhino on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:58pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:30pm:
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Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:16pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:42pm:
You're ignoring what I'm posting. I was advised to go for chemo, an appointment was made, and I went - but the tumor was gone a scan revealed. The oncologist apologized over the phone and said no chemo was necessary. The specialist was really surprised by the quick recovery and told me so. He seemed concerned it would drag on for some time The tumor was gone and never came back, I kept consuming the seeds for a long time after recovery Helicobacter Pylori treatment is not foolproof, it doesn't work for everyone. I would have ingested the seed cyanide regardless of the type of medical treatment recommended. Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:42pm:
Aspirin doesn't always make a headache go away. One thing I know for sure though, seed cyanide did it's job with my tumor, I've never suffered from it since, whereas many sufferers do |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:22pm rhino wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 4:58pm:
So you can't tell it's based on personal experience? Also there's testimonies from other sufferers, some of whom didn't take the Helicobacter Pylori treatment, just the cyanide, it's pretty potent, you've got to watch how much you ingest |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by rhino on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:24pm
So none then.
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Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:47pm rhino wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Did I say there was? And did you read this? ... "The home treatment is best done concurrently with what ever the specialist or oncologist is doing for you" |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 8:47pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:16pm:
And yet it worked, you didnt need the seeds |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 10:21pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 8:47pm:
But still, without the seeds, the problem would have persisted for much longer, as the medicos expected it to. Why else would they book me in for chemo if all I needed was a bubble pack of Pylori tablets? |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by rhino on Jul 1st, 2021 at 10:53pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:47pm:
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Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1st, 2021 at 10:59pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 10:21pm:
Becuase its a back up if the antibiotics dont work |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 1st, 2021 at 11:56pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 10:59pm:
Well at least you've finally realized that the Pylori tablets may not always do the trick |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Ajax on Jul 4th, 2021 at 11:05am
Hi Bias_2012
Thanks for sharing your story, up until now I've only heard people on film speak about the benefits of amygdalin. I believe it and like I said I now eat all the apple seeds in that apple a day crushing them with my teeth. As I have stated above on average 1. One apple seed has about 5 mg HCN 2. One apricot seed has about 20 mg HCN The fact that you consumed 30 apricot seeds a day is not that just way too much...???...if you do the math...? Quote:
One apricot seed = 20 mg HCN 30 apricot seeds a day = 600 mg If you weigh 80kg then 600mg / 80kg = 7.5 mg / kg > 2.5 mg / kg |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Ajax on Jul 4th, 2021 at 12:05pm
I believe big pharma know that Amygdalin can prevent cancer but would they risk destroying an industry that is worth billions.
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Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 4th, 2021 at 2:27pm Ajax wrote on Jul 4th, 2021 at 11:05am:
30 apricot seeds a day had been tried and tested by many before me. When the tumor went, I cut down to 6 per day. These were properly prepared seeds in a 1k bag, that's a lot of seeds and they can go off if not kept in a fridge, even then they don't last forever. I waited months, then years, to see if the cancer reoccurred but it didn't so I threw the remaining seeds in the bin because they were past their "Best before" time The seed cyanide is poisonous just as Chemo is, but all I felt was a fuzziness around my eyes eating 30/day. With Chemo, hair falls out, and you can get pretty sick ... read the testimonials The prepared seeds are no longer available in Australia (hounded out of business), however, the seller I was buying them from gave me info where to buy concentrated amygdalin liquid at a much higher price ($100 .... the 1k bag of seeds was $21) For a preventative measure, you are doing the right thing chewing on apple seeds, just not too many if there's nothing obviously wrong and your health seems fine. We are already ingesting cyanide from other sources without realizing it Interestingly, the chemicals in the seeds are not cyanide to start with, they metabolize into cyanide in the body ... "Pits and seeds of common fruits, such as apricots, apples, and peaches, may have substantial amounts of chemicals which are metabolized to cyanide. " "Your body metabolizes amygdalin as hydrogen cyanide" ... Amygdalin is not cyanide, not until it's ingested - just saying There's been a change in attitude about marijuana for medicine, now we need a change of attitude for amygdalin |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Lols on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:04am
Interesting thread.
My hubby in 2009 started weeing blood. Found out it was cough medicine that caused this problem as he had an enlarged prostrate …. His PSA count was so high (cancer was mentioned) And somehow, I found this book with a few famous Aussies (PM Hawke, Bob Jane, to mention a few… all with prostrate cancer… and journals… Well the main thing I got out of it that helps prostrate problems of getting up often in the night to wee, or high PSA count….I bought this ingredient and it actually worked! Epilobium tea! That was 12 years ago. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Lols on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:11am
Oh and I knew about vit b17 decades ago….
I have a list on the pantry door foods high in vit b17. Inside Apricot kernels are cyanide vit b 17 but make sure it’s organic kernals, and eat papaya to help digest it better. I have a little cookbook too - with cyanide cooking recipes. I’ve read ages ago how sharks seem resistant to cancer so at the health food shop I get shark cartilage powder too. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:40am
Epilobium tea
Never used it before so I just ordered some |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:49am
I am going to start using Synergy Super Greens. My health professionals say that part of my health problems could be solved with some spirulina in my diet. I also have some olive leaf extract in my cupboard that has been recommended for the winter period.
Not much has been stated about the healing properties of vitamin B17. https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/laetrile-pdq#section/all |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:51am Ajax wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:39am:
Seeds in apples are usually toxic in regular consumption. You might get away with eating them sometimes. But, you will end up killing yourself in time. I hope I misinterpreted what you stated. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Lols on Jul 6th, 2021 at 2:01am Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:40am:
I’m so pleased. Write a journal how it goes. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Lols on Jul 6th, 2021 at 2:10am UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:49am:
Yeah probably not… like anything natural that’s not do with cancer clinics and their treatments. My mother in law, back in the 1980s, went through 4 years of cancer hell with radiation and chemo. I’m getting upset now. She passed at age 57 from cancer. After all that shyte she went through. Near the end she found a bit of natural method via Ian Gawler foundation… but a bit late in the game for her. So since then, I had made a lot of efforts attending seminars, buying books etc (never had internet then). I wish I knew back then more of what is known today. One thing I don’t mind spending money on are health products. |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Lols on Jul 6th, 2021 at 2:15am
:'(
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 6th, 2021 at 12:51am:
Here’s an interesting book (try to find articles online) called The Plant Paradox where seeds are out to kill us! It explains how and why. Now I deseed tomatoes! |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 6th, 2021 at 1:46pm Sophia wrote on Jul 6th, 2021 at 2:15am:
That's taking it a little too far Lols. There's no need to de-seed Seeds are another food source, they're medicinal, just don't eat them every hour of the day, but you're likely to pass tomato seeds before they break down in your gut - How often do you eat tomatoes? You have to ingest a lot of those seeds before they're harmful, just straight out of the fruit they're not as potent as when they have dried out Here's a story from years ago about ACID in tomatoes ... A nickname for the fruit was the “poison apple” because it was thought that aristocrats got sick and died after eating them, but the truth of the matter was that wealthy Europeans used pewter plates, which were high in lead content. Because tomatoes are so high in acidity, when placed on this particular tableware, the fruit would leach lead from the plate, resulting in many deaths from lead poisoning. No one made this connection between plate and poison at the time; the tomato was picked as the culprit. The lead in the pewter plates was the poison! The acid in the tomatoes leached it out of the plates. So there you go, watch how much acid you ingest The acid in tomatoes can be harmful to you if consumed in high quantities, my brother got a bad skin rash, he used to eat whole tomatoes nearly every day for a while, he soon cut down when he found out what was causing the rash To quote a well worn cliche - eat all foods in moderation |
Title: Re: Vitamin B17 World Without Cancer Post by Lols on Jul 6th, 2021 at 11:24pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 6th, 2021 at 1:46pm:
I will consider seeds in moderation! You know, I even cook with the seeds inside the capsicum and then started to omit them… Re: tomatoes, we have a lot of it… tomato sauce on pies or chips, tomato in salad sangers, tomato paste of pizza, tomato sauce with pasta etc I love tomatoes! |
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