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Title: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gordon on Jun 12th, 2021 at 8:55am
It was only a matter of time
In page after page, Sutton and Walshe accuse Pascoe of a “lack of true scholarship”, ignoring Aboriginal voices, dragging respect for traditional Aboriginal culture back into the Eurocentric world of the colonial era, and “trimming” colonial observations to fit his argument. They write that while Dark Emu “purports to be factual” it is “littered with unsourced material, is poorly researched, distorts and exaggerates many points, selectively emphasises evidence to suit those opinions, and ignores large bodies of information that do not support the author’s opinions”. “It is actually not, properly considered, a work of scholarship,” they write. “Its success as a narrative has been achieved in spite of its failure as an account of fact.” The Sutton/Walshe book is not the first criticism of Dark Emu. Australian National University anthropologist Ian Keen has said that Pascoe’s evidence for Aboriginal farming is “deeply problematic”, although he also believes that some of the criticism has been used to support a racist agenda. Christophe Darmangeat, a lecturer in social anthropology at the Sorbonne in France, wrote that in Dark Emu Pascoe mixes “perfectly proven elements, others possible but more doubtful, others very improbable, and finally frank fabrications, firing on all cylinders by handling concepts and facts with a disarming casualness”. Quadrant published a polemical book, Bitter Harvest, against Pascoe’s claims. But Sutton and Walshe’s Farmers or Hunter-Gatherers? is the most forensic and best credentialled examination and repudiation of Dark Emu. https://www.smh.com.au/national/debunking-dark-emu-did-the-publishing-phenomenon-get-it-wrong-20210507-p57pyl.html |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2021 at 9:17am
As I have stated and proven, this book of lies is nothing but a means to secure a comfortable lifestyle by a conniving, lying fraud.
He should be sent back to England for overstaying his visa. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Neferti on Jun 12th, 2021 at 11:44am |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:12pm
I always find it interesting how Gordon only ever quotes stuff that supports his Racist views of Indigenous Australians/Asians/Muslims/etc. Never the full story. Is it because he fears that it might actually demolish what he is claiming?
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:33pm
Even if PASCO had an honesty moment and admitted his lies
Bwyannnnnnn would still hold fast to the lies. Methinks bwyannnnnn may be part abbo. Another white abbo This would explain quite a bit. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:42pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:12pm:
I find it tedious that Bbwian always accuses others of what he himself is doing - this time, like Pascoe, he is quoting very selectively, ignoring the pertinent in favour of the peripheral. The description of what Pascoe did in Dark Emu is a fitting description also of what Bbwian does here. How many times did Bbwian respond with the same mindless accusation of racism in response to various posts pointing out what the authors of this new book now also demonstrate. And Bbwian's response remains the same, mindless puffery about racism and even Islamophobia. He says of Gordin, 'never the full story' , but with Bbwian the identical, empty and repetitious, yawning, eyerolling tut-tutting posts by the dozen ARE the full story. It is into this fraught arena that Sutton and his co-author, archaeologist Keryn Walshe, now step with Farmers or Hunter-Gatherers? The Dark Emu Debate. And their rebuttal of Dark Emu, published next week by Melbourne University Press, is damning. In page after page, Sutton and Walshe accuse Pascoe of a “lack of true scholarship”, ignoring Aboriginal voices, dragging respect for traditional Aboriginal culture back into the Eurocentric world of the colonial era, and “trimming” colonial observations to fit his argument. They write that while Dark Emu “purports to be factual” it is “littered with unsourced material, is poorly researched, distorts and exaggerates many points, selectively emphasises evidence to suit those opinions, and ignores large bodies of information that do not support the author’s opinions”. “It is actually not, properly considered, a work of scholarship,” they write. “Its success as a narrative has been achieved in spite of its failure as an account of fact.” |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:43pm
The truth don't give a damn what colour your paint job is or what religious belief you hold...
It isn't racist to point out contrary views... is Pascoe a racist for espousing views different from others? Why the double standard? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:00pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:43pm:
Why deny your Racism, Graps? ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:07pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:00pm:
My point proven, Brian - you ideologues can't even accept a neutral stance such as asking if Pascoe is equally a racist for posing a different point of view. Your intolerance is breathtaking. **cue mothra for some real fun** ..... it's the water, innit? Must be.... Why, BTW, did dear mothra have to make peace with her neighbours? Must be a feisty and selfish old bitch.. either that or her neighbours are a demanding lot with a swag of whining to do and nothing else... most of us get on just fine with our neighbours... Black, White, Brindle, Sallow or anything else.... though sometimes those neighbours don't want to behave ... Just Who Is The Source Of This War That mothra Is/Was Engaged In, That Required A Peace Settlement? If not mothra - then who???? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Bias_2012 on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:19pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:00pm:
Why deny your undemocratic rigidity? The thread is about a book repudiating another book, dickhead |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gordon on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:12pm
Actually the most racist thing (until this book) is the lack of academic critic of the work. It got a pass for casting Abos in a better light (falsely).
A bit like when a retard says 1+1=banana and everyone claps and says, you're so special |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:15pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:19pm:
You don't even understand the terms you're spouting. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:15pm Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
So? Should we be reading bwyannnnnnn stupidity and clapping and telling him how special he is??? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:17pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 2:07pm:
I am very tolerant. You are the intolerant one. Where is your refutation of Pascoe's quoting the early explorers/settlers? MIA it appears. Instead you rely upon personal ad hominem attacks. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:22pm
Hmmmmmmm.
That would be in the thread I posted where several highly qualified and experienced academics and archaeologists. Stated outright that pascoe was a liar. You remember the thread. The one that you refused to respond to with anything but some ad homen statement about racists etc. Pascoe is an unmitigated liar. Nothing he has stated has ever been proven as fact. Its all just like his aboriginal heritage....fabrication. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:29pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:17pm:
Bbbwian is 'reasoning' WHILE his bweath is taken away, don't you know. Oh, yeth, my wordy me, tsk, tsk. House of beaute and 'air removal (sorry about the Islamoiphobic/wacist Mediterranean (ahem) reference smuggled in there at the end.) Vewy, vewy intolerant. Oh yeth. Because we must not notice, let alone recognise that there are diffewences between peoples, populations, cultures. It's all the same. 'It's like anything' - that's all you need to know or say. That's all Bbwian knows or says, after all. Oh, and I almost forgot - he says tut tut ::) ::) A LOT. Convey emotions when thinking has abandoned and let you down once again. Bbwianesque. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:05pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:17pm:
You haven't actually read these early explorers etc and seen how Pascoe distorted what they said to fit into his narrative, have you? I'm not the intolerant one trying to push something down everyone's throats at threat of public denunciation unless they comply .... The Abos didn't farm, they didn't establish townships, they didn't establish governance and organised laws etc, and the land viewed as 'near parkland' was across dry plains where the trees were sparse... give 'em credit for what they could do, bullshittin', campin' and fishin' and leave it at that in the 18th Century... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:10pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:05pm:
You left off being a parasite and begging. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:11pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:05pm:
Still no effort to refute what Pascoe has claimed. Still no effort to refute what the early explorers/settlers saw. If anybody is attempting to "push" anything, it is you and your companion Racists. No hint that Pascoe could be, might be, right. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gordon on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:18pm
They're not an inferior human species. They're a rudimentary hunter gatherer society due to the isolation and environmental factors.
Just call it what it is without the need to elevate them to some mystic entities. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:24pm
Because bwyannnnnnn obviously has difficulty reading true facts.
Here it is again, OK; After considerable reading of subject matter from several Qualified and Accredited academics. There is nothing at all to back up Pascoes lies about Farming or cities of aboriginals pre-colonization. Dr Christopher Lloyd , Emeritus Professor of Economic History in School of Business, University of New England, Armidale Quote: Australian Aborigines were foragers or hunter/gatherers before European colonisation. Neither agriculture in the sense of settled communities of cultivators nor pastoralism in the sense of settled or nomadic groups with domestic animals existed in Australia. There were areas of partially sedentary material culture where food sources were abundant, such as some river valleys and coastlines. There were, however, no permanent dwellings, no real villages and very few possessions. Nomadic foraging was by far the dominant socioeconomic system. As with foragers elsewhere, however, here there was a wide variety of activity, dependent to a large degree on the environment in which people lived. Aboriginal people did a great deal to mould the landscape to their needs by, for example, firestick farming to improve grasslands for grazing animals, building fish traps in shallow riverbeds and coastal zones or building canoes for hunting marine mammals and fish. There was much local specialisation in food production depending on natural conditions, and the manufacture of tools was a matter of local specialisation—again, depending on resources. Trade of tools and special materials with neighbouring peoples and over long distances across many language boundaries has been well studied (see Butlin 1993; Keen 2004). It seems clear that there was a continent-wide system of cultural diffusion and trading networks. Furthemore; Dr Ian Keen is Honorary Associate Professor, School of Archaeology and Anthropology, College Arts & Social Sciences at the Australia National University in Canberra. His distinguished academic career spans more than forty years. Historian Professor Geoffrey Blainey Academic, who specialised in covering research in history, anthropology and botany, Bill Gammage, in his 2011 book, The Biggest Estate on Earth. Rhys Jones (archaeologist) All of the above have stated professionally that Australian Aboriginals were not and have never been true farmers. They use the term "Firestick" farming (setting fire to control growth). Which was probably misinterpreted by the semi-literate lazy researcher Pascoe as farming in an agricultural term. All state that Aborigines never lived in cities or even villages, but may have lived in collectives where food sources were plentyful. And that housing structures did not nor ever have existed. The "fish traps" so revered in myth and lore were the result of natural phenomenon and some opportunistic placement of rocks to make traps. Not unheard of in primitive people and certainly not indicative of an established farming and coordinated enterprise. Again; Quote: Australian Aborigines were foragers or hunter/gatherers before European colonisation. Neither agriculture in the sense of settled communities of cultivators nor pastoralism in the sense of settled or nomadic groups with domestic animals existed in Australia. My conclusion, which will be refuted by Pascoe's worshipers, is that Australian Aborigines were nothing more than Primitive hunter gatherers. Sure, some took advantage of some natural elements and< as they do, Loved setting fires. But there is not one shred of true evidence that agriculture, aquaculture or building is/or has been found to date. Finally; Quote: To amateurs like us, all this controversy over how to define the economies of pre-colonial Aboriginal societies just sounds like semantics. Aboriginal people were quite happy with their lives as very skilled and successful hunter gatherers. If 250 years later, politically motivated academics and activists want to engage in world play by calling Aboriginal people farmers, living in settled stone villages of 1000 people, so be it. It won’t make any difference to the Aboriginal Sovereignty argument - When the British colonised New South Wales in 1788 they legally ‘settled’ here amongst nomadic, native hunter gatherers. It was not a ‘conquest’ or ‘cession’ of settled farmers who had a recognisable social government, as understood by the legal definitions of the time, so no Treaty was required. Academics can write as many papers as they like with ‘Farming’ in the title such as, ‘Food-getting, Domestication and Farming in Pre-colonial Australia’ and then have to admit that, ‘This paper argues that Australian Aboriginal economies do conform to the “complex” hunter gatherer archetype’. (ibid. p116). Which is what all us amateurs already know - Aboriginal people were brilliant and successful hunter gatherers and fishers with many complex tools and practices. They were not farmers. Dr Ian Keen  primitive.jpg (136 KB | 12
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2021 at 8:08pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 12th, 2021 at 10:57pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 8:08pm:
Back to your piss-warm, yawny safe place, Bwian. Doctorate and all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 12th, 2021 at 11:44pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
Are you blind and racist? Many learned people have refuted Pascoeism and these have been laid out for you time and again.... why don't you look instead of crying racist at every turn? I personally do not need to refute Pascoe - apart from the on the face of it silliness he puts forward, his sources are not as he says in many cases, and he fills out deficiencies with conjecture... there are countless refutations out there in Academialand, and the longer this non-issue goes on, the more people are chiming in to pick his ideas apart with facts and genuine writings of settlers etc. Jesus, man - I read a book yesterday about early Western Sydney area, and the bloke said they rode for miles through was was near parkland because of the lack of trees - not one thing to do with 'Aboriginal husbandry' - the soil was rough, the water low - hence not so many trees... when they came near water, there were more trees (well, DUH!), and hardly a Kaffir in sight anyway to do any 'husbandry'. Sometimes people were being speared if caught alone.... but still no Kaffir apart from one at a homestead who loved a drink. Your racist name-calling won't get you anywhere, but it will certainly turn good people away from helping the Kaffir any more... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:03am
The tribes around Sydney had been devastated by the Smallpox epidemic of 1789. An epidemic, which on the surface, appears to have come from the white colonists. In addition, the Sydney area was well known amongst the Indigenous Australians as having been a bit of a "desert" as far as flora and fauna which was edible was concerned. ::) ::)
Of course, that information is suspect as it came from the accounts of the early explorers/settlers, right? ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:42am
Brian is a shill for the White Supremacists, working hard towards alienating all the decent people with his endless personal attacks and thus hoping to bring them into the fold of White Supremacism.
So if your Kaffir were decimated by smallpox, who the did they sustain that magnificent husbandry of the land? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:44am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:03am:
Ah so the endless parklands you could gallop a horse through had nothing to do with 'Aboriginal Husbandry'? How odd... Honestly.... you and Pascoe... ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 13th, 2021 at 7:23am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:17pm:
In the very journal that is being discussed here. None so blind ...... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 13th, 2021 at 7:28am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 8:08pm:
You are definitely retarded. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 13th, 2021 at 7:30am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:03am:
What smallpox has to do with Pascoes claims is anyones guess. I'd suggest you're clutching at your feel good straws. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Neferti on Jun 13th, 2021 at 8:22am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 8:08pm:
Have you read what Joseph Banks said in his Journals - (particularly the arrival in Sydney Cove) - about the Aboriginals? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2021 at 9:29am Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 10:57pm:
Didn't you know The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. Its his declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:40pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:43pm Neferti wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 8:22am:
Be a bit hard, Neferti, Banks never arrived in Sydney Cove. He travelled with Cook and Cook sailed past Sydney Harbour in 1776... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2021 at 1:23pm
Didn't you know
The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. Its his declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2021 at 1:25pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:43pm:
And Pascoe did no real research, did no archaeological digs or investigated any of his ludicrous claims. He is unqualified, barely educated, a liar, a fraud and a plagiarist. In short....he is a fraud........just like the dole BLUDGING white abbo bwyannnnnnn |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Belgarion on Jun 13th, 2021 at 2:17pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:40pm:
In fact Brian there is ample evidence of Pascoes selective editing and blatant misrepresentation of early explorers writings to suit his own agenda: https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/ancient-australians-the-worlds-first-7pl4p-cznps-mxtcy-5pftw-bdhn5-462n4-mmbkj-a7aal https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/2019/11/14/bruce-pascoe-what-did-they-really-say/ There are other example out there as well. ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Neferti on Jun 13th, 2021 at 3:04pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 12:43pm:
Whatever. Did you read Banks' Journals? He was actually there, unlike Pascoe. ;) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13th, 2021 at 5:08pm Neferti wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 3:04pm:
Banks visited Botany Bay, Neferti. Please, at least get your geography correct. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13th, 2021 at 5:18pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 2:17pm:
Seems to me that you like the Racists here are assuming that all Indigenous Australians were always Nomadic and never entered into agricultural practices, anywhere. Australia is a vast continent with multiple climatic zones. Indigenous Australians have lived here for 60,000 years plus. A lot can occur in that time span and over that large an area. Budj Bin is now recognised as being the site of a settled, Indigenous Australian culture, over six thousand years ago. Bit before European arrival on the continent, hey? ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2021 at 8:50pm
So now bwyannnnnn is trying to make excuses and put caveats onto Pascoe lies.
Nowhere in Australia has there been any evidence of what Pascoe lies about. The simple fact that Australia was predominantly unexplored for many years belies the possibility that they had farming or building practices. Because if they did, the aborigines woukd have carried on with these practices as to stop would cause them to suffer starvation. These practices would be evident as they were further discovered. But nothing, zip, nada. Hunter gatherers, nothing more, anything else is a lie. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13th, 2021 at 8:53pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2021 at 8:57pm
Defeated again, so its back to tut tut.
And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. Its his declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Cu Chulainn on Jun 13th, 2021 at 9:19pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
Sounds like you believe in aliens too. The galaxy is a vast space and contains diverse ecosystems so there must be intelligent life... I mean 13 billion years! Even though there is no evidence so far. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Neferti on Jun 13th, 2021 at 9:28pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 5:08pm:
Answer the fycking question! Did you read Banks' Journals? tsk tsk |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Belgarion on Jun 13th, 2021 at 9:38pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
I show you examples of the misrepresentation of explorers journals you were asking for, and you answer with an unrelated rant about racism and supposed Aboriginal agricultural practices. ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 13th, 2021 at 10:39pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 8:53pm:
What race are you, Bbwian? You throw 'racist' around like confetti without saying what race you are. You are not Aboriginal. You are not Chinese. You are a white man spluttering about the racism of other whites. Who the fcck do you think you are to do so? What is your vantage point that is better than anyone else's? Your vanity is greater - what else?? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:24pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 8:53pm:
In psychology, an idiot has the least intelligence on the IQ scale (this now is equivalent to someone who is mentally retarded or the more politically correct “mentally challenged”); an imbecile is not quite as dumb as an idiot and is now considered equivalent to moderate retardation; a moron is then the highest level of intelligence for someone who is mentally retarded, thus considered as being mildly mentally retarded. Specifically, those who have an IQ between 0 and 25 are idiots; IQs between 26 and 50 are considered imbeciles; and those who have an IQ between 51 and 70 are considered morons. :-? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:29pm Frank wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 10:39pm:
He is a white abradolebludger. This is a race of people who have no aboriginality in them but want all the benifits of an abbo and dole bludgers. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:03pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 9:38pm:
Actually, you didn't. Your site showed one early settler's journal, not the journals that Pascoe quotes... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:42pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
Your balls, and Pascoe's, have been well and truly nailed to the floor, so you now squirm, yawn and eyeroll in pain and embarrassment. You simply have no reply to the Sutton book and its points so you ignore it. There's your education, Bbwian, your 'training in history', mail order doctorate - you obfuscate, avoid, yawn. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 15th, 2021 at 10:22am Frank wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Brian's a well-educated moron. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 15th, 2021 at 12:48pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 1:43pm:
Strange. Didn't you criticise Pascal for not being a real Boong? Not racist. Matty says he should be sent BACK TO WHERE HE CAME FROM. Whinging Poms are not a race, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 15th, 2021 at 12:51pm Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 6:22pm:
Oh, I remember that. That's the one where you couldn't say who they were or where he lied, ja? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Belgarion on Jun 15th, 2021 at 1:20pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
Did you even look at the references? Would seem not. ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 15th, 2021 at 1:33pm Neferti wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 3:04pm:
Bryan just being a twat…. Cook & Banks we’re not far away … in Botany Bay… that’s why the First Fleet went there on arrival. There were Aboriginals there too. Oh and the dickhead doesn’t even know his history Cook & Banks were here in 1770… not 1776. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 15th, 2021 at 1:41pm Gnads wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 1:33pm:
Another who doesn't know his geography it seems. Such foolish people, you Racists. Tsk, tsk, you still haven't grasped what Pasoe is arguing, have you? The early explorers/settlers were well away from the coast when they encountered the Indigenous Australian fields. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 15th, 2021 at 1:43pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2021 at 5:08pm:
Don’t you lecture anyone about historical events when you don’t know when Cook was here. 1770 you dill. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 15th, 2021 at 2:03pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 1:41pm:
Deflection writ large and bs….I said they were in Botany Bay … just as you did. The first settlers didn’t arrive until after 1788….. in fact not until 1793. And if you knew anything about Aboriginals you’d know they were around the greater Sydney harbour area and Sydney Cove. There were many coastal Aboriginal groups all around Australia. And there were no “Aboriginal fields”…..despite your Pascoe indoctrination. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2021 at 2:05pm
Tell us about these 'fields'...... just refresh us all - it's tedious keeping up with all the obfuscations and eye-rolling and such which breaks up the even flow of discussion.... now then - we've settled the 'park-like meadows' out Parramatta way.... what's next? Brickworks and bread ovens at Penrith? The Golden Temple of Mittagong torn down for its golden tiles and covering, its stones carried away to make pig styes and its Vestal Virgins raped etc?
I believe you hit the nail on the head, Brian... 'what Pascoe is arguing' - Freudian Slip? So it's not as fixed as the Northern Star - he has to argue it ... doing a damned fine job of defending his corner with nothing solid.... He's as much a last ditcher as his supporters.... That reminds me - WHY did mothra have to 'make peace' with her Kaffir neighbours? Was she stirring up trouble? Were they stirring up trouble? Who exactly was making demands here that required a 'peace settlement'? Was she guilty of the sin of being there and breathing their air - always was, always will be? I love these ideologues and the way they like to portray things..... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 15th, 2021 at 4:32pm Karnal wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 12:51pm:
As a matter of fact. Each qualified expert was listed with their qualifications. As for detailed dissection of each inaccuracy, it frankly isn't worth the trouble. Suffice to say, he has lied so many times and in so many ways Nothing he has written could be considered fact. The way it works (for the dummies) Is that you have a theory, you prove said theory and present facts. Pascoe and his blind followers simply make outrageous statements, without proof or evidence, and say....."It's up to you to prove I'm wrong" In Pascoe world I could say anything regardless of how impossible it may be And say. "PROVE ME WRONG" That is not science,. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 15th, 2021 at 5:08pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 15th, 2021 at 5:23pm
Had your balls handed to you in the Pascoe thread.
Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. Its his declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 15th, 2021 at 9:23pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 15th, 2021 at 10:15pm Gnads wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 1:43pm:
No, dear, I noticed it too. You mentioned Sydney Cove, as if Banks was with Phillip in the First Fleet - those who actually met and lived with Boongs. Banks went BACK TO WHERE HE CAME FROM in 1771. He visited the Royal Geographical Society in London and lectured Sydney settlers from afar. The only thing Banks had to do with settling Australia was naming a couple of plants. David Collins and Watkin Tench wrote the journals of first encounter. The only actual Boongs Banks saw waved spears from the shore at the good old Endeavour. In terms of collecting samples of fauna, Banks is the man. In terms of actual colonising, Banks was considered a complete dilettante. You? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 15th, 2021 at 10:30pm Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 4:32pm:
Not at all. We asked - at least five times. You ignored every opportunity to explain. If you wish to do so, here's your chance. Again. As for an explanation of every discrepancy, that's what we do, detailed or otherwise. Please explain? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 15th, 2021 at 10:45pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 10:22am:
You're responding to someone who couldn't even be bothered sitting for a citizenship test. Freud on Man's Stool, innit. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Mr Lager on Jun 16th, 2021 at 12:46am
Never forget the Aboriginal culture that enriches our modern culture, we are all cultures these days but Aboriginal culture goes back longer than any other culture and it is a culture like no other culture because they were isolated since the primate era.
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 12:57am
Hallelujah! I feel enriched!!
I was about to make a comment about George Floyd and the way the crowd got onside with him, regardless of the fact that he was a criminal being arrested, but because he was Black like them.... that is sadly reminiscent of our GBH (Grown Black at Home) community, who always side with 'their own' regardless of what that asshole has done. The pr1ck might have bashed someone's grandmother to death, but the crowd will still come out and whine about the chance the asshole might suffer 'death in custody' as a persecuted Black. THAT is one of the most grievous problems with our Black society here... this 'sticking together' even when the cont is the scum of the earth... they'll even support him in prison and some dopey sheila will shack up with him once he's out and take the chance he'll bash her when he gets pissed again. Same applies there with the Floyds of the earth - no matter what some asshole has done, they will side with him/her because they are Black.... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Mr Lager on Jun 16th, 2021 at 1:10am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 12:57am:
George Floyd will go down as the niger with the biggest lips and the best Angels wings ever. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 16th, 2021 at 8:05am
Bwyannnnnnnn has had his balls handed to you in the Pascoe thread.
Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. Its his declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 16th, 2021 at 8:08am
Not at all. We asked - at least five times. You ignored every opportunity to explain.
If you wish to do so, here's your chance. Again. [quote author=Valkie link=1623452148/20#20 date=1623489860]Because bwyannnnnnn obviously has difficulty reading true facts. Here it is again, OK; After considerable reading of subject matter from several Qualified and Accredited academics. There is nothing at all to back up Pascoes lies about Farming or cities of aboriginals pre-colonization. Dr Christopher Lloyd , Emeritus Professor of Economic History in School of Business, University of New England, Armidale Quote: Australian Aborigines were foragers or hunter/gatherers before European colonisation. Neither agriculture in the sense of settled communities of cultivators nor pastoralism in the sense of settled or nomadic groups with domestic animals existed in Australia. There were areas of partially sedentary material culture where food sources were abundant, such as some river valleys and coastlines. There were, however, no permanent dwellings, no real villages and very few possessions. Nomadic foraging was by far the dominant socioeconomic system. As with foragers elsewhere, however, here there was a wide variety of activity, dependent to a large degree on the environment in which people lived. Aboriginal people did a great deal to mould the landscape to their needs by, for example, firestick farming to improve grasslands for grazing animals, building fish traps in shallow riverbeds and coastal zones or building canoes for hunting marine mammals and fish. There was much local specialisation in food production depending on natural conditions, and the manufacture of tools was a matter of local specialisation—again, depending on resources. Trade of tools and special materials with neighbouring peoples and over long distances across many language boundaries has been well studied (see Butlin 1993; Keen 2004). It seems clear that there was a continent-wide system of cultural diffusion and trading networks. Furthemore; Dr Ian Keen is Honorary Associate Professor, School of Archaeology and Anthropology, College Arts & Social Sciences at the Australia National University in Canberra. His distinguished academic career spans more than forty years. Historian Professor Geoffrey Blainey Academic, who specialised in covering research in history, anthropology and botany, Bill Gammage, in his 2011 book, The Biggest Estate on Earth. Rhys Jones (archaeologist) All of the above have stated professionally that Australian Aboriginals were not and have never been true farmers. They use the term "Firestick" farming (setting fire to control growth). Which was probably misinterpreted by the semi-literate lazy researcher Pascoe as farming in an agricultural term. All state that Aborigines never lived in cities or even villages, but may have lived in collectives where food sources were plentyful. And that housing structures did not nor ever have existed. The "fish traps" so revered in myth and lore were the result of natural phenomenon and some opportunistic placement of rocks to make traps. Not unheard of in primitive people and certainly not indicative of an established farming and coordinated enterprise. Again; Quote: Australian Aborigines were foragers or hunter/gatherers before European colonisation. Neither agriculture in the sense of settled communities of cultivators nor pastoralism in the sense of settled or nomadic groups with domestic animals existed in Australia. My conclusion, which will be refuted by Pascoe's worshipers, is that Australian Aborigines were nothing more than Primitive hunter gatherers. Sure, some took advantage of some natural elements and< as they do, Loved setting fires. But there is not one shred of true evidence that agriculture, aquaculture or building is/or has been found to date. Finally; Quote: To amateurs like us, all this controversy over how to define the economies of pre-colonial Aboriginal societies just sounds like semantics. Aboriginal people were quite happy with their lives as very skilled and successful hunter gatherers. If 250 years later, politically motivated academics and activists want to engage in world play by calling Aboriginal people farmers, living in settled stone villages of 1000 people, so be it. It won’t make any difference to the Aboriginal Sovereignty argument - When the British colonised New South Wales in 1788 they legally ‘settled’ here amongst nomadic, native hunter gatherers. It was not a ‘conquest’ or ‘cession’ of settled farmers who had a recognisable social government, as understood by the legal definitions of the time, so no Treaty was required. Academics can write as many papers as they like with ‘Farming’ in the title such as, ‘Food-getting, Domestication and Farming in Pre-colonial Australia’ and then have to admit that, ‘This paper argues that Australian Aboriginal economies do conform to the “complex” hunter gatherer archetype’. (ibid. p116). Which is what all us amateurs already know - [b][size=14][color=#ff0000]Aboriginal people were brilliant and successful hunter gatherers nothing more. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 16th, 2021 at 1:37pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:23pm
Oh, Matty, you are a silly Billy. Pascoe never mentioned cities. Look what your emeritus professor says:
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gordon on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:30pm Karnal wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:23pm:
Don't worry Karnal, nobody's trying to say they didn't invent a stick. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:34pm Gordon wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
Ah yes, but didn't your people invent a burning bush? Careful, Gordon - don't take it over to Homo's mother's house. You'll cause a right kerfuffle. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Belgarion on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:37pm
I have here just one of the references that shows that Pascoe misrepresented the journals of early explorers to suit his agenda. I will also post part of it so those who remain in denial by not following the references can confront reality:
https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/2019/11/14/bruce-pascoe-what-did-they-really-say/ Pascoe loves to quote the explorer Charles Sturt. Incorrectly in most cases. Check to see what Pascoe made up from just this small section of Sturt’s journal. Charles Sturt wrote – “…. however, we reached the hill soon after the natives had gone over it, and on gaining the summit were hailed with a deafening shout by 3 or 400 natives, who were assembled in the flat below. I do not know, that my desire to see the savage in his wild state, was ever more gratified than on this occasion, for I had never before come so suddenly upon so large a party. The scene was one of the most animated description, and was rendered still more striking from the circumstance of the native huts, at which there were a number of women and children, occupying the whole crest of a long piece of rising ground at the opposite side of the flat.” Pascoe changes the number of people and adds in a bit of drama, by inventing the story that the explorers were “saved from death”, and he throws in a bit more fiction by including harvesting grain. He says – Version 1. “Charles Sturt’s exploration party of 1844 was saved from death when it chanced upon four hundred Aboriginal people harvesting grain on the Warburton River (South Australia),” Version 2. “There were nearly 1000 people living there, in this little model community with timber and thatch houses, beautiful dwellings, which Sturt describes quite well.” https://researchbank.rmit.edu.au/eserv/rmit:160504/Kelly.pdf Sturt says. “I checked my horse for a short time on the top of the sand hill, and gazed on the assemblage of agitated figures below me, covering so small a space that I could have enclosed the whole under a casting net, and then quietly rode down into the flat, followed by Mr. Stuart and my men, to one of whom I gave my horse when I dismounted, and then walked to the natives, by whom Mr. Stuart and myself were immediately surrounded. Had these people been of an unfriendly temper, we could not by any possibility have escaped them, for our horses could not have broken into a canter to save our lives or their own. We were therefore wholly in their power, although happily for us perhaps, they were not aware of it; but, so far from exhibiting any unkind feeling, they treated us with genuine hospitality, and we might certainly have commanded whatever they had.” Pascoe adds in his drama and says – “They’ve eaten all their horses but one. They’ve got no water, they’ve got no food, they’re dying. They climb a sand dune and look down. Sturt can hardly see by this stage, but they’re accosted by 1000 Aboriginal people ….. And so Sturt writes that if those people had been aggressive to him that they could have done nothing, because the horse they had left couldn’t have run to save its life and they couldn’t have walked to save their lives. They were at the mercy of these people who came up and grabbed hold of them, virtually carried them down to the bottom of the dune.” https://researchbank.rmit.edu.au/eserv/rmit:160504/Kelly.pdf Sturt wrote. “Several of them brought us large troughs of water, and when we had taken a little, held them up for our horses to drink; an instance of nerve that is very remarkable, for I am quite sure that no white man, (having never seen or heard of a horse before, and with the natural apprehension the first sight of such an animal would create,) would deliberately have walked up to what must have appeared to them most formidable brutes, and placing the troughs they carried against their breast, have allowed the horses to drink, with their noses almost touching them.” This is just a small sample. Plenty of others for those who care to look. Pascoe has been thoroughly discredited. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gordon on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:39pm Karnal wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:34pm:
Your great uncle invented a biscuit that looks like an Abo 12759d2f28fcddb61f053414b9d30daa.jpg (8 KB | 8
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:54pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
Good, good, some meat on the bone of an argument. Excellent. Finally someone who has gasped the gist of Pascoe's argument and addressed it. Great. Unfortunately, I think a lot of it is about the use of words, rather than the substance of what Pascoe said that Sturt reported. Sturt reported a large number of Indigenous Australians in one small area. They apparently had dwellings ("huts/houses") and a water source. You really can't sustain a large number of people without some form of agriculture. What kind? It isn't mentioned, except by Pascoe. Funny that, hey? ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 16th, 2021 at 3:09pm
Bwyannnnnnnn has had his balls handed to you in the Pascoe thread.
Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. Its his declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2021 at 3:36pm
Well - the weight of opinion in the field of Aboriginal history seems to be weighing massively against Pascoe and the Pascolytes ... it's rather sad that an attempt, no matter how febrile, to promote some idea of advanced civilisation among the Indigenous has failed so dismally... it's a pity the evidence shows a different story.....
Thing I love about NITV is how they fill out their time and space with Maori and American Indian and Negro stuff... not enough solid tales to run around from Australia... but, of course, the intent is to create some emotion-based 'connection' between all these 'Indigenous' groups, as if they are all one and the same worldwide.... Trouble is that seeing stuff like some Zulu being bashed in South Africa fuels the unthinking to think they are the ones bashed.... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 4:27pm Gordon wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 2:39pm:
Nonsense, that's a Golliwog, as every schoolboy knows. They imported them from America. The Boong biscuits are totally different. They're disguised as witchetty grubs and contain rat poison. Looks like you didn't sit your citizenship test either. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 4:29pm Valkie wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 3:09pm:
Back to repeating yourself again. How are you any different to the tsk tsker? He actually makes points. You just deliver triumphant chortles. Careful, Matty. Lee might drop in and wink at you. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 4:32pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 3:36pm:
True, dear, it's called content. You'll find the commercial stations do the same - not enough Aussie soaps, you see. Lucky we have Ernie Dingo, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 16th, 2021 at 5:55pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:05pm Valkie wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 5:55pm:
You're still going on? I would have thought your emeritus professor's comments in support of Pascoe would see you running off or trying to crash the board with spam. No worries. Who are all the others you mentioned? I think you said several. Post them all up for us. My boyfriend Brian will check. Tsk tsk tsk, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:38pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:38pm:
You've really got Matty rattled, Brian. What's your secret? Do you think it's the yawn? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:12pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 7:39pm
I'm sorry, Matty, you'll need to start a new thread, this simply won't do.
Now let's see, Dark Emu Debunked, Dark Emu Rebutted, Dark Emu Smeared, have you considered Dark Emu Rogered and Erradicated By Superior Intelligence? Give it a go. Brian might try to divorce his silly old boyfriend. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 16th, 2021 at 9:02pm Karnal wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 6:58pm:
Persistence, my old fella. Works for Boris apparently... ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 16th, 2021 at 9:03pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2021 at 9:32pm Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 8:55am:
What about the book referenced in the OP, Bbwianesque cockwomble, and the long review of it linked to? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 16th, 2021 at 9:57pm Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Oh, Matty had to open his big mouth and debunk it. Such a pity. He was cutting and pasting Brian's tsks so professionally, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 1:13am
Dark Emu White-washed............................. ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 8:06am
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 17th, 2021 at 10:16am Karnal wrote on Jun 15th, 2021 at 10:15pm:
If you had really been observant you would have seen that I never mentioned Banks being at Sydney Cove with Phillip ‘twas someone else. I did say they were in Botany Bay… in fact for eight days. So old mate Banks had ample opportunity to see Aboriginals first hand as shots were fired at a couple….. one of whom was shot and injured according to present day local black chaps. His shield with bullet hole is in a British museum and his descendants want it back. So Cook and Banksy didn’t just see boongs from a distance waving spears at them….. they got up close & took souvenirs. Not as flesh sampling close as you’d prefer…yes? ;D |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 10:51am Gnads wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 10:16am:
Didnt ya know, Cook came in shooting abbos left right and center, machine guns blazing anti aircraft missiles fired into their villages and napalm being sprayed over all their crops. At least thats what they are teaching at schools. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 11:56am
Peaceful lot, these spear-waving Boongs... wonder how they go along with one another's groups???
Or was it - "Not spear-waving - signaling that I'm about to drown in White men!" Argh, aye - there be a total of 1400 coming in 1788, so watch out!! |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:53pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by lee on Jun 17th, 2021 at 3:13pm
Peter Harris
June 8, 2020 · STAND UP AUSTRALIA! I am a middle aged, mixed race Aboriginal AUSTRALIAN, I am a realistic logical thinking member of this country we all call our OWN.......AUSTRALIA I HAVE BEEN a mixed race Aboriginal Australian ALL my life....EVEN back in the days when it WASN’T POPULAR. I pays taxes, donate, volunteer, works for a better life for my family, myself AND those around me! I am a hard working Australian and I have done long hours over many years to earn a living. I believe in the freedom of religion, but I don't push it on others. I always purchased and drove Australian-made cars, and I believe in Australian products and buy them whenever I can. I believe the MONEY I make belongs to me and not some bloody governmental socialist or communist from Labor, Greens or Liberal, that assume they know how to spend my money better than me! I'm in touch with my feelings and WHO I am.....PERIOD! I don’t need some unqualified, inexperienced, opinionated “Lefty” trying to infiltrate my children’s minds with conspiracy theories about sex, climate, politics, religion or gender, THEY ARE CHILDREN, so let them simply be children! I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything. Get over it! I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac or any other item, you should do it in English, there should be NO other language option in our public service, as is the case in so many other countries around the world.. I believe ALL Australians have a rightful place to life alongside the tradition Aboriginal inhabitants of this great country. My heroes are fellow Australians like Don Bradman, Albert Namatjira, Slim Dusty, Fred Hollows and the Aussie scientists who invented the bionic ear and WiFi to mention just a few. I don't hate the rich, but hate the way they always find ways to pay less taxes. I don't pity the poor, I hate the way they are always crying that they are hard done by!! I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time watching or arguing about it. I believe if you don't like the way Australia is, LEAVE!....PURE & SIMPLE, GO BACK to where you came from and change your own country! This is AUSTRALIA ... We like it the way it is and more so the way it was .. so stop trying to change it to look like some other socialist country! If you were born or legally migrated here and don't like it ... you are free to move to any Socialist country that will have you. I believe it is time to really clean house, starting with the Lodge, the seat of our biggest problems. Why has politics become a vocation with guaranteed rewards far greater and longer lasting than any other trade or profession....With ZERO performance based criteria? I want to know exactly, where the "Do Gooders" get their money from, and why are they always part of the problem and not the solution? I also think the police have the right to pull you over if you're breaking the law, regardless of what race, colour or creed you are, but not just because you happen to be an illegal alien and scream that they are "RACISTS PIGS". And, no, I don't mind having my face shown on my driver's license. I think it's good ... I dislike those people standing in the intersections trying to sell me stuff or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause ... Get a job and do your part to support yourself and your family! I believe that it doesn't take all the intellectuals to raise a child, it takes two parents ... I believe 'illegal' is illegal no matter what the lawyers think! I believe the Australian flag should be the only ones allowed to be flown in Australia! If this makes me a BAD Australian, then yes, I'm a BAD Australian. If you are a BAD Australian too, please forward this to everyone you know ... At a Victorian high school, foreign students raised a Middle East flag on a school flag pole. Australian students took it down. Guess who was expelled ... the students who took it down. West Australian high school students were sent home, because they wore T-shirts with the Australian flag printed on them. Enough is enough. This message needs to be viewed by every Australian; and every Australian needs to stand up for Australia. We've bent over to appease the Aussie-haters long enough. I'm taking a stand. I'm standing up because of the hundreds of thousands who died fighting in wars for this country, and for the Australian still fighting. And shame on anyone who tries to make this a racist message. AUSTRALIANS, stop giving away Your RIGHTS! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY! This statement DOES NOT mean I'm against immigration! YOU ARE WELCOME HERE, IN MY COUNTRY, welcome to come legally: 1. Get a sponsor! 2. Learn the LANGUAGE, as immigrants have in the past! 3. Live by OUR rules! Dress as we Australians Do 4. Get a job! 5. Pay YOUR Taxes! 6. No Social Security until you have earned it and Paid for it! 7. NOW find a place to lay your head! If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, then YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! We've gone so far the other way ... bent over backwards not to offend anyone. Only AUSTRALIANS seem to care when Australian Citizens are being offended! WAKE UP AUSTRALIA !!! If you do not Pass this on, may your fingers cramp! Made in AUSTRALIA & DAMN PROUD OF IT ! https://www.facebook.com/Harrow2015/posts/10158815878750362 |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 3:24pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 3:26pm lee wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 3:13pm:
Sounds like a man who thinks for himself. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 17th, 2021 at 5:46pm
I could not agree more. Big Macs should be sold using proper Australian English.
Would sir like chips with his Big Macca? Sorry - mate? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 17th, 2021 at 6:20pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 6:39pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 6:47pm
That Pascoe is a lying, opportunist with as much abbo in him as Queen Elizabeth?
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 17th, 2021 at 7:25pm Valkie wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
Wrong poster, Matty. You're meant to use a sock to respond to yourself, dear. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by lee on Jun 17th, 2021 at 7:26pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
Wow. Food grows wild. That doesn't make it a farm. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm
"Sounds like a man who thinks for himself."
Peter Harris could be my nephew - got a job, a beautiful blonde wife, two gorgeous kids, a home of his own, and such ... and in all of this he is half Aboriginal and could claim victim status if he wanted, yet he doesn't. He's part of our family and we ask for nothing for nothing..... Time to man up and woman up..... get with the program or be left behind in misery and poverty. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 8:15pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
Not all abbos are deadbeat parasites, just a he'll of a lot of them Its the white abbos, like bwyannnnnnnn, who are the real problem They know their ancestors were closer to monkeys than humans and they have just enough white to be embarrassed about it. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Neferti on Jun 17th, 2021 at 8:29pm Valkie wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 8:15pm:
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 8:53pm
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:03pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:19pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:24pm
What are you going to do when the Boongs are finally extinguished, Matty?
Got anyone else? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:31pm Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Sing a song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC9HE7vazI |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:39pm
Have you tried blaming Islam?
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:39pm Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:31pm:
How about the Jews? Matty? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 17th, 2021 at 11:31pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion has attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad hominem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2021 at 11:35pm Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 9:39pm:
I blame the feminists exclusively for all the ills of modern Western society, not least for the reality that they have turned a once vibrant and energetic and thrusting society into a bunch of wimps ready for the plucking by any Chinker or Musso who comes along.. YOU? Oh - and the Mussos are to blame as well for their gross misogyny which causes them to mistake gentlemanly behaviour for supplication... WAPOFW ... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2021 at 12:34am
As eminent anthropologist Peter Sutton and archaeologist Keryn Walshe meticulously demonstrate in Farmers or Hunter-Gatherers?, released this week by Melbourne University Press, Dark Emu is “poorly researched, distorts and exaggerates many old sources, ignores large bodies of information that do not support the author’s opinions (and) contains a large number of factual errors”.
Highlighting instance after instance in which Pascoe doctors key quotes, misrepresents dates, places and numbers, and miscites crucial references, they expose conduct that would be widely considered unacceptable. And the problems they identify are, if anything, greater in the educational material Pascoe has influenced or prepared, which, they write, would “seriously mislead” young people and “should be withdrawn by any educational authority currently using it”. However, Dark Emu’s glaring flaws do not just lie in the distortions of fact and authority on which it bases its wildly implausible claims; even more troubling is its fundamental disregard for Indigenous culture. In effect, what it presents as admirable in precolonial Indigenous society is not what makes it distinctive but what brings it closer to us: the alleged complexity of its technology; the scale of its tribal gatherings; the supposed durability and number of its dwellings. Dark Emu’s rigidly ethnocentric conception of merit, in which quantity is confused for quality, is, as Sutton and Walshe wryly observe, resolutely “Texan”. But to view Indigenous culture through that prism is utterly misguided. That culture was not oriented to material affluence, and even less to technological change. Rather, Sutton and Walshe write, “for the Old People, making a living and obtaining materials for artefacts were inseparable from their commitment to a spiritual understanding of the origin of species, to conservative values in relation to change and to a cosmology in which economics had to be in conformity to ancestral authority”. They lived, in other words, in what philosopher Charles Taylor has described as a “world brimming with presences”, in which the spiritual and the temporal, the natural and the supernatural, were fused within a cosmic order that was not to be manipulated and transformed — as it was in the West — but revered and maintained. What we would now call faith was not a distinct sphere of life; it was inseparable from life itself, there forever, from the Dreaming, whose latent powers, including for the cyclical regrowth of plants and animals, were to be preserved through obedience to its demands. And where technologies — such as their Melanesian neighbours’ agricultural and horticultural methods — had not been sanctioned by the Dreaming, they rejected them, not out of ignorance but out of respect for the transcendent foundations of earthly existence. In contrast, Pascoe’s caricature – which “consistently pushes the evidence of Aboriginal subsistence beyond what it can factually bear and into a European model of economic life … as if the more European the Old People can be made to seem, the better” – robbed that world of its spirituality. That certainly made Dark Emu all the more attractive to the staunchly secular “progressives”, who are its fiercest defenders; but it also made Pascoe incapable of understanding, much less explaining, the Indigenous world’s stability and persistence. Ultimately, it condemned his book to being little more than “a popularised mythology of history” that “does not respect or do justice to” the societies it purports to admire. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2021 at 12:37am
Contentiously identifying as Aboriginal, he repeatedly presented his book as a defence of Indigenous people; it followed, in a warped syllogism, that to criticise it would be to attack them.
And with access to remote sites now conditional on securing Indigenous approval, any researcher who was branded as a racist faced the threat of being excluded from the field work needed to build a career. But an even more powerful force has also been at work: the conviction, which has become pervasive in our universities, that telling the truth, instead of being the first and greatest duty, is not as important as achieving social goals. Being right matters far less than being on the right side; and it is immeasurably worse to concede a point to the wrong side than to tolerate error. That is a recipe not for advancing knowledge but for entrenching ignorance. It can only make us a poorer and stupider, more Bbwianesque country, while training future generations in conformity rather than intellectual honesty. In subjecting Dark Emu to the most painful, but most valuable, of science’s tests, the test of fact, Sutton and Walshe break that mould. Their courage not only does this country and its Indigenous people an immense service; it also shows that, despite everything, our finest scholars are still capable of producing “books with spine." https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/scholarly-light-cast-on-darkemu-claims/news-story/2a3268245a4ad31b0ba509102194b061 Our resident spineless apologist operates with just this kind of 'warped syllogism' himself, always drawing conclusions that simply do not follow from the premises. Pascoe, the B Wongar of our time. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 18th, 2021 at 8:03am Quote:
And this is the crux of the matter. By using the indigenous title, he and WOKE sycophants attempt to deny the truth, facts and scientific review by screaming "RACIST" at any who deny the lies and fabrications. Much the same as muzzos immediately jump on anyone questioning ANYTHING they say or do with their cult, Pasco followers jump and scream "BOGOT", "RACIST" stick their fingers in their ears and hum "tra la la I cant hear you" Truth, facts and honesty are furthest from their minds. Most importantly is that they attempt to make Aboriginals out to be more than they ever have been. Hunter Gatherers who had not even reached the stone age technology. They did not build houses They did not farm They couldn't even lash a rock to a stick Even the primitives of New Guinea were more advanced, and they had no materials that could have been mined to make metal weapons. Why they need to do this is beyond me. Why not simply accept the fact that Australian aboriginals were simply primitives, that was 200 years ago. They have had ample opportunity to advance to the same as the more advanced colonizers who came and rescued them from extinction. Or is it simply that they have no wish or drive to advance beyond parasitical life? White abbos are the worst Just enough aboriginal to know how primitive they were and just enough white to be embarrassed and angry about it. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2021 at 8:43am
"In acknowledging this week that Pascoe had “fallen short” regarding his “intellectual rigour,” The Age nonetheless urged caution. “We hope the latest chapter in the Dark Emu debate does not reignite the culture wars,” it editorialised. This completely misses the point. For the past few years, Dark Emu has been intrinsic in a postmodernist strategy to delegitimise white settlement of Australia, and one that frequently involves vilifying those who question its claims."
Just so. The mindless adulation and fawning by the usual Balmain Bolsheviks was the biggest red flag, always is. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 18th, 2021 at 9:56am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
You posting this same repetitious bs does nothing to support Pascoes plagerised, selectively interpreted fairytales. Tsk tsk tsk dearie dearie whatta wanker ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 18th, 2021 at 10:23am Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 8:43am:
Trying to reignite the culture wars, are we? Shurely shome mishtake. All Pascoe's pointed out is they invented a stick. If you think that delegitimizes the white settlement of Australia, it's a thin veneer indeed. Freud on Man's Stool, innit. Quite so. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 18th, 2021 at 10:25am Valkie wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 8:03am:
And here's Matty, trying ever so hard not to reignite any culture wars. Quite so, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 18th, 2021 at 10:55am Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 8:43am:
Dark Emu itself was designed to reignite the 'culture wars' and set Aboriginal against White Man... a lost cause if ever there was one, but certainly one that will not do anything good for the Aborigines. The whole purpose of this silly tract was to stir up trouble between Black and White - and frankly, I personally couldn't give one rat's what conditions were like in 1788 - my families have been here too long to be bothered about or to even consider handing the nation over to a bunch of people with no skills to handle modern society. Would someone, just once, lay out for us exactly what these activist think they want??? Considering that claims of 'Aboriginal Land' are outrageous and infantile these days. ... long, long gone. Call it what you like - you gotta earn it to use it and those who earned it are not going to hand it to you. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2021 at 11:16am Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 10:23am:
Identifying you as "Anal K" correctly nails your balls to the floor, paki bvgger. Your developmental stuntedness is Bwianesque, as is your rejoicing in it. Btw, you forgot to say "you?". Missed your verbal tick medication suppository? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 18th, 2021 at 2:27pm Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 11:16am:
Balls? I wouldn't know, dear. I'm gender fluid. Identifying you as a silly old kook from the Old Country is correct. You blow-ins are so thin-skinned, you scratch and you bleed. You get yourselves into a right old state. We've been here 50,000 years, we invented a stick. Pascoe said. Now you go off, read the book, and come back if you have any issues. Until then, you're just playing with scissors and a pot of glue. Pretending there's a plot to delegitimise the white settlement of Australia suggests you've been sniffing it. Just so. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 18th, 2021 at 2:34pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 10:55am:
You said that already, dear. We suggested you prove it. You've been yeah-but-no-butting ever since. The old boy held back from calling you stupid and mendacious. Most generous of him, no? Quite so. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 18th, 2021 at 5:41pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Neferti on Jun 18th, 2021 at 5:50pm
MY doctor is a nice dark chap from Nigeria. How many dark Aboriginal Doctors are there?
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Setanta on Jun 18th, 2021 at 6:21pm Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 12:37am:
That seems to be the case. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 18th, 2021 at 6:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 5:41pm:
Bwyan,Bwyan, Bwyan etcetywa is stiwl wost in da void of a dewoosonal pascoepalian sycophant. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:00pm Neferti wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 5:50pm:
Hard to say, Nefertiti. Do associate professors of Boong Studies count? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:07pm
The title of the OP should have simply been…..
Dark Emu … Aways was Aways will be Bunkum |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Setanta on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:11pm Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:00pm:
Absolutely right, K. Make her show all the Aboriginal MDs and when she can't Euchre her with your list! That is your plan, isn't it? You do have a list... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by cods on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:23pm Setanta wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
trouble with lists and diplomas it never states the pass mark .. I think it would be magnificent if more aboriginals were doctors and specialists only as long as they pass the same exams as everyone else..... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Setanta on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:44pm cods wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:23pm:
Pass marks? Who cares, we're into laying down a Euchre! |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Setanta on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:57pm
Still waiting for the Euchre, K...
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:59pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 18th, 2021 at 11:20pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 18th, 2021 at 11:44pm Setanta wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
I most certainly do not. How many versions of the stick did Whitey invent? The Hills Hoist doesn't count. It was based on the 1923 Toyne Rotary Hoist. The Hills just purchased the patent for a foldable metal stick with cables used to peg clothes. The Boongs didn't even invent them. Waste not want not, dear. Or want not waste not. Either/or. Been here 40,000 years, invented a stick. Aussie invented a wine cask and a black box. Brian invented a yawn. You? been-here-40000-years-invented-a-stick.jpg (83 KB | 11
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 19th, 2021 at 8:57am
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19th, 2021 at 11:02am Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad huminem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Neferti on Jun 19th, 2021 at 11:13am |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 19th, 2021 at 11:46am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 11:02am:
Prove that alice in wonderland is false. What about Dr. Who? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 19th, 2021 at 11:56am ;D |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 19th, 2021 at 1:34pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 2:47pm
Sutton & Walshe reviewed in The Conversation.
Underpinning Dark Emu is the author’s rhetorical purpose. This proselytising is partly achieved by painstaking “massaging” of his sources, a practice forensically examined by Walshe and Sutton. It has led to converts to Pascoe’s dubious proposition. But this willingness to accept Pascoe’s argument reveals a systemic area of failure in the Australian education system. https://theconversation.com/book-review-farmers-or-hunter-gatherers-the-dark-emu-debate-rigorously-critiques-bruce-pascoes-argument-161877 And another long review by an emeritus prof https://insidestory.org.au/the-teller-and-the-tale/ Debunked is correct. The dreadful eagerness to uncritically adulate Dark Emu for 6 years (with rare but ignored exceptions, immediately branded as 'colonialist right wing racism ') is the real concern and symptom of widespread emotional correctness in the media, univerities and schools and government. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:00pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Only Belgarion appears to have attempted to address Pascoe's argument. Matty, Soren, Gnads, etc. are still lost in the void of argumentum ad hominem, perhaps forever. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:03pm
Sutton & Walshe reviewed in The Conversation.
Underpinning Dark Emu is the author’s rhetorical purpose. This proselytising is partly achieved by painstaking “massaging” of his sources, a practice forensically examined by Walshe and Sutton. It has led to converts to Pascoe’s dubious proposition. But this willingness to accept Pascoe’s argument reveals a systemic area of failure in the Australian education system. https://theconversation.com/book-review-farmers-or-hunter-gatherers-the-dark-emu-debate-rigorously-critiques-bruce-pascoes-argument-161877 And another long review by an emeritus prof https://insidestory.org.au/the-teller-and-the-tale/ Debunked is correct. The dreadful eagerness to uncritically adulate Dark Emu for 6 years (with rare but ignored exceptions, immediately branded as 'colonialist right wing racism ') is the real concern and symptom of widespread emotional correctness in the media, univerities and schools and government. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:05pm
Sutton & Walshe reviewed in The Conversation.
Underpinning Dark Emu is the author’s rhetorical purpose. This proselytising is partly achieved by painstaking “massaging” of his sources, a practice forensically examined by Walshe and Sutton. It has led to converts to Pascoe’s dubious proposition. But this willingness to accept Pascoe’s argument reveals a systemic area of failure in the Australian education system. https://theconversation.com/book-review-farmers-or-hunter-gatherers-the-dark-emu-debate-rigorously-critiques-bruce-pascoes-argument-161877 And another long review by an emeritus prof https://insidestory.org.au/the-teller-and-the-tale/ Debunked is correct. The dreadful eagerness to uncritically adulate Dark Emu for 6 years (with rare but ignored exceptions, immediately branded as 'colonialist right wing racism ') is the real concern and symptom of widespread emotional correctness in the media, univerities and schools and government. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:25pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:35pm cods wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:23pm:
Honorary awarded Diplomas don't have a pass mark. Why would you think that would be the case... they don't do it for qualification courses for trades & TAFE courses for them. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:42pm Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2021 at 11:44pm:
The original Hills hoist wasn't foldable. How old are you? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:49pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
In page after page, Sutton and Walshe accuse Pascoe of a “lack of true scholarship”, ignoring Aboriginal voices, dragging respect for traditional Aboriginal culture back into the Eurocentric world of the colonial era, and “trimming” colonial observations to fit his argument. They write that while Dark Emu “purports to be factual” it is “littered with unsourced material, is poorly researched, distorts and exaggerates many points, selectively emphasises evidence to suit those opinions, and ignores large bodies of information that do not support the author’s opinions”. “It is actually not, properly considered, a work of scholarship,” they write. “Its success as a narrative has been achieved in spite of its failure as an account of fact.” Pascoe has removed significant passages from publications that contradict his major objectives. This boosts his contention that all along Aboriginal people were farmers and/or aquaculturalists. One example concerns Pascoe’s quoting of the journal entries of the explorer Charles Sturt. Sutton writes: Sturt is quoted [by Pascoe] on his party’s discovery of a large well and ‘village’ of 19 huts somewhere north of Lake Torrens in South Australia. Pascoe’s edit of Sturt’s original 1849 text breathes oxygen into Dark Emu’s polemical edge. It’s misleading at best. For Sturt’s diary reveals Aboriginal people didn’t live in “houses” in any single site all year round. Such accounts destabilise Pascoe’s argument, reinforced by ethnographic, colonial, and archaeological records. Pascoe records Mitchell’s astonishment on coming upon a large, deserted village during his Australia Felix expedition, which he estimated housed “over 1000” people. This, says Sutton, is “pure fiction”. “All Mitchell says is that his party ‘noticed some of their huts’; there is no mention of anyone counting anything.” Pascoe then quotes a member of Mitchell’s party, Granville Stapylton, as saying that the buildings “were of very large dimensions, one capable of containing at least 40 persons and of very superior construction”. But he omits Stapylton’s speculation that this was “the work of a white man”, probably the runaway convict William Buckley, who lived with the Wathaurong people for three decades. Pascoe cites no Aboriginal sources and there are no Aboriginal lingustic features to support his claims. People practicing agriculture have words for the activity. No Aboriginal language has such linguistic features. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19th, 2021 at 5:02pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Matty admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Belgarion has at least made an effort, unlike Soren, Matty, Gnads, Graps, etc. They appear unable to understand the points that are being made and prefer to use personal insults. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 19th, 2021 at 5:04pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19th, 2021 at 8:21pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Matty admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Belgarion has at least made an effort, unlike Soren, Matty, Gnads, Graps, etc. They appear unable to understand the points that are being made and prefer to use personal insults. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 19th, 2021 at 8:23pm
We don't need to refute it.
All the experts are doing it for us. You are just too stupid to acknowledge it. Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread. Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19th, 2021 at 9:18pm Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Matty admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Belgarion has at least made an effort, unlike Soren, Matty, Gnads, Graps, etc. They appear unable to understand the points that are being made and prefer to use personal insults. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 19th, 2021 at 9:22pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.
Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut. Anal,k follows on with asinine insults. And we all know what that means. The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument. And Anal, k is simply a moron. Its their declaration of defeat. That's all. Back to top |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Raven on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:34am
Aboriginal people were primarily hunter/gatherers. But does that mean they didn’t engage in some form of agriculture?
Did they have permanent houses? Yes and no. As professor Sutton said “ Some of the houses were actually kept going from season to season but they weren’t lived in for the whole year round generally, There was some housing in the western district of Victoria and a few other places where people stayed for maybe a year or more, now that’s at the extreme end. The usual pattern is that people set up housing that was as complex only as it needed to be for the season, so in the hot weather you set up shades or sleep under the stars. Where it’s windy, they would make a windbreak, they wouldn’t make a great big house two metres high.” In regards to agriculture, a study published in the journal Antiquity, has found over 140 quarry sites, where rock was excavated to produce seed grinding stones in Mithaka country in Queensland. Grinding stones were used to process native grasses and produce a form of bread. Axes scattered across the area also indicate trade with the Kalkadoon people from the Mount Isa quarries in the north. When Europeans first stumbled across this landscape in the 1870s, they observed "civilized blacks" living in villages and maintaining intensive fishing industries. In 1871, for example, a sub inspector of the Queensland Native Police, James Gilmour, came across a "village" of 103 huts at the southern end of Thunderpurty lagoon while looking for evidence of the missing explorer Ludwig Leichardt. Did every Aboriginal language group practice agriculture? No they did not. However it is not outside the realm of possibility that an Aboriginal group, who happened to be in the right place, could start to lay down the foundation of a civilisation. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:40am Raven wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:34am:
Of course. So why can people not just leave it at that? This nonsense has gone on far too long and for no solid reason. People developed a relatively stable group where food was plentiful, and they could use simple methods to procure it, such as fishing and traps. So what? Yes - they dug up stones to use as grinders for native seed. So what? Every other undeveloped culture on earth did the same things, but that does not create of it an overnight civilisation. Pascoe developed one very single-minded vision from his sources - he was wrong. End of story. Now withdraw the book as a text and give a balanced view of what actually would be the case. Talk about a storm in a teacup, and endless MORE trouble for future generations here. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:03am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:40am:
They did. You kept going on about it, remember? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:55am Just take a seat on the bench, sir........... we'll get to you soon.... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 20th, 2021 at 9:02am
More evidence that dark emu and the ABC are under scrutiny.
Bwyannnnnnn is looking like he will have to apologise for pushing lies. What do you recon the chances are? Pascoes awards MUST be revoked and he MUST be exiled from Australia. Quote:
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:53am
Matty won't leave it at that, Grappler. Now he's quoting Piers Ackerman and trying to get Bruce Pascoe exiled.
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:30pm
FOR too long the bull shite of Pascoe has been rammed down our throats as evidence of how us whites have destroyed their kultcha.
When in fact, we are their saviour. The sychophants have used this book as their only go to for everything. Well, it's debunked, proven the trash, fictional and fabricated rubbish it is. The myths perpetrated by a lying, self absorbed and opportunistic pom, using this rubbish to finance his parasitical lifestyle. Send him back Make an example of him So that others who lie about rubbish for personal gain will think again. All copies of his trash, should be refunded and burned. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:20pm Karnal wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:53am:
Banish all criminals to the colonies..................... Reverse Boat People Policy - those found wanting in moral fibre are to be shipped out on the first available people smuggler boat on its return to hell on earth. Goodbye Paradise... saves on bullets for Usual Suspects strolling the streets... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 20th, 2021 at 2:08pm
I love this line
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 20th, 2021 at 2:33pm Valkie wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:30pm:
He's inflaming culture wars again, Grappler. Didn't you say you just wanted a nice rest? Shurely shome mishtake, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:32pm Karnal wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Nah - the persistence of Pascoe's "works" is inflaming culture wars and inciting fools to take up the cudgels for people who would bash them in an instant if they were to "feel" unrespected in any way. So much foolishness has been implanted in the minds of the foetal alcohol and drug generations that they will never be able to see the reality for the bullshit. Niqqer - heal thyself!! |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:39pm
STILL LOVE THIS STATEMENT
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:09am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:32pm:
You demand it be banned and eviscerated, no? How brave of you both. Yes, dear. You, and Matty. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:13am Karnal wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:09am:
You are an extremist and need watching closely. I said that Pascoe's work should be put in the position it deserves - just one person's view and flawed at that, and proven to be poorly researched and based. Something wrong with you, boy? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 21st, 2021 at 8:17am Quote:
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 21st, 2021 at 12:48pm
Well, old Coonskin, with his own tenuous links to Aboriginality, will naturally say or do anything to retain the right of anyone to claim to be Aboriginal.
I ask again - if this group is so oppressed - why does everyone line up to be part of it? And while we're on the subject - what would possibly make anyone imagine that 'generational disadvantage' is restricted to Aborigines? Once upon a time not so long ago, many would have spouted that women were 'generationally disadvantaged' from not getting work in the steel mills or on the plough and felling trees or trekking the roads looking for a part-time casual gig somewhere or even maybe a sandwich from a kind farmer's wife..... There are clear cases of 'generational disadvantage' in ALL social groups here in Oz - apart from the well-to-do... anyone who says differently has no idea. I reckon this mad rush to 'being Aboriginal' is cool and replaces the real pathways in life by being able to 'stand up as a proud blah-blah-blah".... better than working for a living and you can blame all your own shortcomings on being Aboriginal in a bad society .... nah, bro - work is wandering them hills we claim as our own exclusive territory and gettin' paid to do that... why work? ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 21st, 2021 at 2:19pm Gnads wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:42pm:
Ah - good point. That was the one they sold at Mitre Ten. Okay, the Toyne, the Hills, and the green one. The Aussies invented them all. Happy with that? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 21st, 2021 at 2:23pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:32pm:
Oh, that's right. The persistence of Dark Emu being still in print. You and Matty want it eviscerated, with Pascoe exiled. You won't be happy until it's done, no? Well, it may not happen overnight but it will happen. Until then, keep up the culture wars and the storm in a teacup. You gotta have a dream, yes? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 21st, 2021 at 4:10pm
While ever this nonsense of Pascoe's exists as some form of reality, these culture wars that he re-ignited will never go away.
You can't blame those who simply say NO to bullshit for perpetuating the bullshit. D_emu_III.jpg (37 KB | 8
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:41pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 4:10pm:
You want him expunged from reality, yes? And your culture wars are all his fault, no? Sometimes a question is just a question. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 21st, 2021 at 7:31pm
STILL LOVING IT......EVISCERATED
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Setanta on Jun 21st, 2021 at 7:48pm Karnal wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 6:41pm:
Umm, no... Brought into reality. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:07pm Setanta wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 7:48pm:
You? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:08pm Valkie wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 7:31pm:
EMASCULATED. Oh - and brought back to reality. After he's EXPUNGED, EXILED and EVISORATED. In that order, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 8:08am Quote:
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 8:26am
When someone lies and his works are taken as gospel.
When the facts are false and fictitious. when children are incorrectly taught lies and rubbish. The only way to expunge the damage is to openly and firmly destroy any credibility this rubbish has. The ABC must be made to acknowledge that they helped perpetrate these lies with a clear and firm message that it is a book of lies. Schools should be made to instruct children, who they have lied to, that this book is nothing but fictitious rubbish. Refutations must be clear and concise. Pascoe should be made to publicly admit to his lies and then shipped back to England.....to the tower with him. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 11:54am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:13am:
It could be left to it's own demise but it is being taught in schools as factual theory. It, just like "critical race" theory has no place in our education systems/curricular. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 11:57am Karnal wrote on Jun 21st, 2021 at 9:08pm:
You're losing it ::) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 2:40pm Gnads wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 11:57am:
That sock lost it years ago. Anal k is the demented figment of some poor lost souls imagination. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 5:55pm Valkie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 2:40pm:
Who's Matty? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 6:28pm Gnads wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 11:54am:
Since the Lebo ganglord gunned down was of an 'oppressed' group - he was blameless in his own shooting... as was any other member of any Accredited Victim Group who pulled the triggers... Look at those victims they are searching for over the Stuart McGill kidnapping... blameless and pure as the driven snow because they are oppressed, so it's the oppressor's fault. Notice how this latest insanity segues back to the old feminist line of the late 1970's - The Oppressor Has NO Rights!! .... no prizes for guessing who dreamed up this latest nightmare and will continue to try to push it on everyone - unless it is stopped, which means first stopping any feminist, male or female, from holding any power to install it. This is an absolute war, Poppets - do not be confused - and neither your status as citizens nor your position in society will keep you above the battle... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 12:06pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 7:11pm:
Look, yawny Bbwian, a Racist Aborigine! A Racist Aboriginal Woman!! Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”. “Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said. “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/books/darker-issues-at-play-over-bruce-pascoes-emu/news-story/304b56d80c0ea33fa51f053c25c09dd5 You have surrendered all reason to PC pieties a long time ago, Bbwian, and now you are in a bind because of your contradictions- which mindless PC nonsense will you discard in favour of the other: call an Aboriginal woman a lying Racist or accept that you have been stupid and blindly PC and uncritical about fabulist Pascoe because he appealed to your low-brow fantasy. Why don't you apologise to everyone you have called a Racist on this and other Dark Emu threads simply because they didn't accept Pascoe's fable as truthful? Go on, look for your backbone and apologise once you've found it. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by JaSin. on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:10pm Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2021 at 8:55am:
And Greeks and Romans never looked as 'perfectly' chiseled as their Statues represented them to be. Americans never really experience UFO's but their strong 'aviation' culture makes them believe that its their future. God never really created Life in the name of 'Light' - for life began down in the deep cold darkness of the Abyss in the form of Chemo-synthesis. Americans never really look like Superheroes, but their 'Gods' do in their Temples (Cinemas). etc, etc, etc ...The World only caught up to Aboriginal Culture in the last 10,000 years and then took another 6,000 years to surpass it - 'RECENTLY'. Before that, for 'roughly' an ENTIRE 100,000+ years - Aboriginal culture was the 'Atlantis' of the world before it vanished (because of the sea). Even the Africans referred 'anciently' to Australia as OPHIR. British 'cultural arrogance' of all things 'technologically superior' comes only RECENTLY in the last 1000 years after the Romans taught them how to live in a House and not a tree and spiritually taught them how to make clothes and not wear animal skins and furs. 'Western' culture is like a Winger that has finally received the football for a run and thanks mostly to Religion from the Middle-East. Regardless of right or wrong or 'technology' or 'stylising' cultures (like what the Media does) through fabrication. The FACT is that Humanity as a whole has a lot to learn from Pre-1788 Aboriginal world before it was 'spoiled and dismantled' by other RECENT Global cultures. They afterall, managed to survive 100,000+ plus years of isolation... something this planet may have to experience if we indeed don't find any real 'intelligent' life out there in the Galaxy. ...but hey, by the way its looking - the Stars are not for us. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:13pm
Only 10,000 years ago, you say? Sounds like a long time to be a Lost Ophir... Gone Dwanaland.... long gone...
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by JaSin. on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:16pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:13pm:
Remember that the (come lately) Melanesians are genetically and culturally 'related' to the Africans. Aboriginals are not. Polynesians are recent sub-Vietnamese. Aboriginals were making Didgeridoos and Boomerangs long before British knew how to dig lice from their hair. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by JaSin. on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 1:20pm
Aboriginals belong to the First Nations Haploid Group like Adamanan Islanders, Ainu of Nihon (Japan), Clovis Amer-Indian (Not current Amer-Indians), Tibetans and a few others scattered around like the Khoi-San and Hottentot of southern Africa.
European Caucasoids, Middle-Eastern and India Caucasoids along with African Negroids and Asian Mongoloids are all just RECENT 'children' genetically. Very new to the world. You should learn to respect your Elders ...'old' Grapps. ;) |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 2:40pm
Pity the modern Abos have let down the team then....
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:16pm
Dark emu
A fairy tale with more fiction than Grimms Fairy tales. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:51am Quote:
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 24th, 2021 at 10:58am
Well - look at the insanity that passes for discussion here - if you so much as criticise Dark Emu or similar you are a racist White Supremacist who attacks poor oppressed Kooners and, by inference, every other ethnic group ...
Look at the way your Wogs and Mussos and dopey unthinking sheilas all side with Abos in their 'Cause' - and thus with all these other Fifth Column dissident groups - all operating on the assumption that the enemy of their chosen enemy - the Old White Men and The Patriarchy - is the friend of themselves.... when nothing could be further from the truth, and what they are all doing is supporting the most oppressive and patriarchal societal structures in this world. You can teach monkeys to fly - you can't teach a fool beyond what he/she will accept. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 24th, 2021 at 11:29pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 10:58am:
Oh? Are you saying you're not a racist white supremacist? Please explain. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Gnads on Jun 25th, 2021 at 9:01am Karnal wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 11:29pm:
And what are you? Just a glib Patong Arse Bandit? a simple yes or no will suffice. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2021 at 9:32am
Previous criticisms of Dark Emu have been condemned as some conservative racist conspiracy. But Sutton and Walshe are not right-wingers. Nor is Indigenous lawyer Hannah McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues, who told The Australian this week, “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”
How was the University of Melbourne so easily conned into appointing Pascoe as Enterprise Professor in Indigenous Agriculture? Where was the academic rigour? The investigation and fact checking? .... Pascoe has not been challenged by academia and the media because they think he’s Aboriginal. But this has also been credibly challenged. In letters to the Koori Mail in the 1990s trying to identify his Aboriginal ancestry Pascoe sought information on his great-grandmother, Sarah Matthews, whom he said was born in Dudley, South Gippsland, in 1848, also (inconsistently) “may have come to South Gippsland on a sealing vessel” and may have lived on the Cummererugunja and Ebenezer Mission. Genealogists say Matthews’s marriage certificate states her birthplace as Dudley, England, and have produced research that all Pascoe’s ancestry can be traced to England. Pascoe has not addressed this and has been persistently vague about who his Aboriginal ancestors are and where they came from. Difficulties in tracing Aboriginal ancestry due to dispossession, Stolen Generations, racism and so on are cited as excuses for this. I used to head NTSCorp, the peak body representing NSW native title claimants, whose anthropologists, historians and genealogists conducted research and evidence-gathering supporting native title claims and claimant group membership. Aborigines in NSW were among the earliest disrupted and dispersed by colonisation, yet we could trace and establish Aboriginal descent to a legal standard, including in families affected by forced removal. Bottom line, if you can’t identify a known Aboriginal ancestor, how can you claim Aboriginal descent? And if your ancestors can all be traced to other countries you certainly cannot. Pascoe wrote an incorrect Aboriginal history and avoided scrutiny because of claimed Aboriginality, protected by academia and the media, especially the ABC, two groups supposed to engage in curious and critical inquiry. They’ve forgotten their role in truth telling and become a modern equivalent of the Dark Ages alchemist. I give them an A+ for woke but a big fat F for facts. Nyunggai Warren Mundine is the author of Speaking My Mind and Warren Mundine – In Black and White: Race, Politics and Changing Australia. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/where-was-scrutiny-of-bruce-pascoes-claims-in-dark-emu/news-story/c8c6612babcb9515a57ea5f30dfe97e8 I would keep Dark Emu on the curriculum and teach it TOGETHER with the Sutton & Walshe book and other reviews of it, challenging the kiddies to examine it in the light of the other and decide if the criticisms are valid or not. A good exercise in Enlightenment. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:43am
Lies, fiction and fabrication still being taught.
No wonder our kids a slipping further and further behind Quote:
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Dnarever on Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:50pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:49pm:
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??? Does this make a point that is relevant ? I would think that irrespective of who done the actual building that 19 large built structures accommodating up to 40 people each would ask the question about the need for this capacity and purpose the construction time, the need for extended accommodation etc ? It does suggest well over 100 people living in a stable environment for not a short period. The very point used to make the emu look less credible askes significant questions that do not damage the Emu's conclusions. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:43pm Gnads wrote on Jun 25th, 2021 at 9:01am:
You really don't want to say, do you? 1. Grappler 2. Matty 3. Poor old Agatha |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:46pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
That's a discussion, Dnarever. Expect to be offered a banana. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:51pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
You don't think the fact the huts were built by a white man is relevant? Can any point possibly be relevant in your estimation? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Dnarever on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:56pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:51pm:
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It is not that it is the need to provide long term accommodation for several hundred people ? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:00pm
Dark Emu is about the lives of Indians before 1788. Huts built by white men don't really count now, do they?
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Belgarion on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:06pm
The Pascoe apologists still cannot accept that they have been taken in by a fraud. ::)
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 27th, 2021 at 11:33pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
It is not that it is the need to provide long term accommodation for several hundred people ?[/quote] If you could make sense we would all rejoice. Until then we are agast at your incoherence. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 28th, 2021 at 7:43am Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
Maybe he viewed it as some kind of hotel for passing groups... another White Man's view that had no reference in the Aboriginal language or approach to life. Maybe they looked askance at this feat of construction and simply shrugged and said: "Why?" Makes sense to a White Man to have a semi-permanent structure and organised layout (LAYOUT - not LAYABOUT!) available for every time you came by... easier to build big once than build every time... trouble is - many others would use the wood for fires and the stones for cooking stones or fireplaces for a couple of nights.. I mean... look what happened to the Golden Pyramids of Narromine... pulled down by Whartey to make pig pens and build fireplaces in homesteads and the gold cladding sold off for a few fripperies and demijohns of rum ..... |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:59am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Even unto this day, abbos never congregate in large numbers. Except for footy matches and protests. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 28th, 2021 at 11:13am Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 11:33pm:
If you could make sense we would all rejoice. Until then we are agast at your incoherence. [/quote] The old boy's aghast, Dnarever. He may even offer you a banana. It may not happen overnight, dear, but it will happen, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 28th, 2021 at 11:15am Valkie wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:59am:
You forgot funerals, Matty. The dead are not a race, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 28th, 2021 at 3:42pm Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 11:33pm:
If you could make sense we would all rejoice. Until then we are agast at your incoherence. [/quote] Dont you see. Abbo claim anything they can. The abbo flag wasn't designed, made or even conceptualized by any abbo. The smoking ceremony has been plagiarized from other cultures. They paint with white mans paint They use white mans canvas Hell they even buy the trinkets they sell, from china. so they will eventually claim that houses built for them are "Kultural bruvva" even though they had no part in it. They are incapable of doing anything Except of course that marvel of engineering.......the stick |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?
It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence. Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth. It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158 https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453 Etc, etc |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you? Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no? Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong. May a thousand flowers bloom, ya? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Frank on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”. “Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said. “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.” Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'? Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you. Oh, yes got it - was lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
I present exhibit A. But, but, but, you haven't produced any evidence. I present exhibit B. But, but, but you haven't produced any evidence. I present exhibit C. You're RACIST!!! |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Valkie on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm:
Exactly. I presented several documented scholarly qualified peoples statements debunking Pascoe the liars bull shite. Each time Bwyannnnnnn and his sycophant moronic followers asked for evidence. They either could not see or would not believe that FULLY QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND SCHOLARS would know more than an uneducated and lying Pascoe. They must be demented perhaps they need a toaster 1622336038465.jpg (31 KB | 7
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by BigP on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:14pm Valkie wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm:
With the modern RCD's you will no longer get the desired result |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:17pm Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
Your source? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:19pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm:
I say, Homo, are you racist? A simple yes or no will suffice. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:29pm Valkie wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm:
Oh? I seem to recall a number of attempts to engage you on your argument and your source. You just kept quoting yourself and howling at Bwian. BWIAAAAN!!! The old boy is the first to take a stab at Pascoe. The old boy hasn't engaged either, but he's provided a jolly good case. The old boy has successfully provided an argument we spent a good two months asking you for, you declined each and every time. Don't blame Bwian, Matty. If you want to engage in a good old historical chat, we're here for you. Remember, we're all friends here, no? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Dnarever on Jun 29th, 2021 at 7:24pm Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Now Now that is a bit harsh. Matty has been fighting for the voting rights of the dead for decades. When Matty ran for office most of his best support came from this sector. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Karnal on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:50pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 7:24pm:
True, Matty has always stood up for dead foreigners like silly old Fwank. He flew here, no? Then he carked it and let out such a stench. If there's one thing Matty loves, it's stench. University of Baloney, innit. |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Dnarever on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:00pm:
Do you know why 1 white man would build 19 large buildings capable of each housing 40 people for himself to live in over a 3 year period ? Is it even possible ? A bit over 1 large building every 2 months for 3 years ? WHY ??? You really think that happened ? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Dnarever on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:00pm Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 11:33pm:
If you could make sense we would all rejoice. Until then we are agast at your incoherence. [/quote] I suspect it is more that you do not want to understand. Maybe it is just that thing with the red neck right and comprehension not working well together. Why would 19 large structures be built over 3 years capable of housing several hundred people when the expectation is for a max exaggerated population of 20 or 30 hunter gatherers who would have stayed for 2 or 3 months ? Under the exclusive no exceptions hunter gatherer model this situation can not exist. But it did ? |
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Title: Re: Dark Emu debunked Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:58pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:00pm:
Where did that one come from? Where did anyone comment on such a thing? |
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