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Message started by Yadda on May 29th, 2021 at 9:00pm

Title: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on May 29th, 2021 at 9:00pm

'Die faggots !! Die !!'
- Yarra City councillor


A Yarra City councillor,      ....and, a moslem,       ....and a member of the Australian Greens.

So there!!

Oh dear !          :o          :o          :o





IMAGE.....


Yarra City councillor,   Anab Mohamud,   and a member of the Australian Greens



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Quote:

Muslim migrant city councillor starts fight outside gay club, screams
‘Allahu akbar,’
‘I will make sure these faggots die’


May 28, 2021
By Robert Spencer                  11 Comments


Celebrate diversity!


You have a problem with this?


What are you, some kind of Islamophobe?


“Greens councillor accused of starting fight, launching homophobic tirade,” by Cameron Houston, The Age, May 20, 2021:

    A Yarra City councillor has been accused of starting an altercation with another woman outside a gay club in South Yarra, before the councillor allegedly exclaimed “Allahu Akbar” and vowed to “make sure all these faggots die”.

.......
.......


https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/05/muslim-city-councillor-starts-fight-outside-gay-club-screams-allahu-akbar-i-will-make-sure-these-faggots-die



ISLAM is the faith which preaches peace, and tolerance of non-moslems, and of 'others' !

HONEST !!!     {.....just ask brian!]

Would a moslem [or a LBGTQXYZ apologist for moslems], lie to you !!!?

/sarc off


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IN COMMENTS, same article.....


Quote:

Hoi Polloi says      

May 28, 2021 at 11:29 am

“Mohamud, who came to Australia as a Somali refugee 20 years ago” and is another failure to assimilate in the database. (Her partner should be imprisoned with her for his threats.)

How many before our betters acknowledge the refusal to respect others that is the foundation of their supremacist ideology?......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/05/muslim-city-councillor-starts-fight-outside-gay-club-screams-allahu-akbar-i-will-make-sure-these-faggots-die#comment-2347969



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Quote:

“Peace and love are at the center of our religion, as evidenced by scripture and history,...”

- Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah
CITED... https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/uae-forum-promotes-dubious-islamic-peace




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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....





Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on May 29th, 2021 at 9:36pm

Q.
Who was at fault ?

Q.
Whose actions [allegedly] was it, that instigated the 'altercation' ?




Quote:

Anab Mohamud,       a member of the Australian Greens, allegedly launched the homophobic tirade after sustaining serious facial injuries from the assault on April 11, according to a witness statement.

......

“[Cr Mohamud] told me numerous times to ‘bring that bitch back, I’ll f— her up’. She has also yelled out various things, such as ‘f— the LG family’ and also said something in what I believe was in Arabic and not understandable, followed by words along the line of, ‘I swear to Allah if I lose my eye I will make sure all these faggots die,’ ” the guard alleges in a statement to police.

......

Video footage obtained by The Age shows Cr Mohamud
and a male companion walking down Bray Street about 3.40am, when she
stops outside a caged smoking area to the rear of Chasers nightclub.

Another witness, who works as a manager at Poof Doof,
told police Cr Mohamud reached through the bars of the smoking area
and grabbed a “trans woman” by the hair.

The manager, who asked not to be identified, said he attempted to separate the pair.



https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/05/muslim-city-councillor-starts-fight-outside-gay-club-screams-allahu-akbar-i-will-make-sure-these-faggots-die





Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on May 29th, 2021 at 10:51pm
Irrational Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on May 29th, 2021 at 11:03pm


IMAGE.....


Yarra City councillor, Anab Mohamud


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IMAGE.....


In acts of conflict - those who will willingly participate in them, often will imagine that they will be, can be, 'a winner'.

But reality often makes [sorry] fools of us all.





It emerges, there are contested accounts of what occurred.

Surprise, surprise.

/sarc off




Quote:

......

Version One

According to The Age report, Cr Mohamud reached through the bars of the caged area and grabbed a transwoman by the hair. A manager at Poof Doof, who was not identified on request, claimed that the councillor was screaming “bugger you, I’m going to get you.”

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Version Two

The Greens party said that it was Cr Mohamud who was the victim and suffered serious injuries after being “violently assaulted”.

......


https://www.starobserver.com.au/news/police-probing-altercation-outside-poof-doof-involving-greens-councillor/203151




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Valkie on May 30th, 2021 at 8:49am
Bwyannnnnnn's continual posting of the same thing over and over, with not reasoned debate is beyond mental illness.
Its a sign of some serious mental problem that needs attention.

This is a plea from all those in this forum.

Bwyannnnnnn, please, for your own sake......GET SOME HELP.
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Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on May 30th, 2021 at 8:50am
Brian, if it was a Nazi turning up at a gay bar, picking a fight, and threatening to kill gays, would you describe reporting on it as "irrational Naziphobia"?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on May 30th, 2021 at 8:59am


Brian,

If it was a JEWISH person, or a CHRISTIAN person,
turning up at a gay bar, picking a fight, and threatening to kill gays,
would you describe reporting on it as proof that JEWS [or CHRISTIANS] are driven by their hatred and intolerance of 'others' ?


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2021 at 11:20am
“[She] also said something in what I believe was in Arabic and not understandable, followed by words along the line of, ‘I swear to Allah if I lose my eye I will make sure all these bugger*ts die.’”

so not those exact words then?  ::) ::) ::)
did yadda blow his load early .... again?





Quote:
“Our understanding is that the version of events reported in the media has been contradicted by subsequent police witness statements.

“These contradictory witness statements are yet to be resolved by police. We therefore remain uncertain about the reliability of what has been reported.


https://qnews.com.au/greens-councillor-accused-of-homophobic-tirade-after-poof-doof-assault/

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Ajax on May 30th, 2021 at 11:28am
Just goes to show that these days anyone with extreme views can be a politician.

From alah akbars

to

blaming all males as sex predators.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2021 at 11:30am

Ajax wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:28am:
Just goes to show that these days anyone with extreme views can be a politician.



of course they can ... there's no restriction that says only islamaphobes can be politicians

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Agatha on May 30th, 2021 at 11:38am
Head-covered Muslim woman, Green, immigrant - wonderfully progressive....


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Belgarion on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am
What a dilemma for the usual suspects....Ethnic, Islamic female who is also a Greens councillor assaults a gay person and says she wants to kill them all.......it must be doing their heads in deciding who requires the most virtue signalling support. ;D

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-accused-of-starting-fight-launching-homophobic-tirade-20210518-p57sxy.html

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/greens-councillor-homophobic-brawl-trans-woman/

These sources tell the same story. If it is now changing then it seems the woke mob are spin doctoring to best possible light on the story. Wouldn't be surprising if in the final version the whole thing was actually an assault by a pack of Neo Nazi white people. ;D

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Agatha on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am

Brian Ross wrote on May 29th, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Irrational Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

Someone shouts allahu akhbar, kill the faggots = irrational islamophobia in Brian's mind.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Valkie on May 30th, 2021 at 1:33pm

Bertie wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 29th, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Irrational Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

Someone shouts allahu akhbar, kill the faggots = irrational islamophobia in Brian's mind.


Yes, he is a sad, sad case , isn't he?
bwyannnnnn_002.JPG (49 KB | 10 )

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on May 30th, 2021 at 2:14pm

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


It means she is a homophobe, and the Greens are tapdancing in their efforts to court both the Muslim and gay vote.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2021 at 2:32pm

freediver wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 2:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


It means she is a homophobe, and the Greens are tapdancing in their efforts to court both the Muslim and gay vote.


the greens might be, they're typically the biggest hypocrites in politics so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

on the other hand, it could also mean that the bouncer is just be another islamaphobe who doesn't know what he heard so made something up to suit his islamophobia ... much like you do actually.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on May 30th, 2021 at 2:44pm

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 2:32pm:

freediver wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 2:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


It means she is a homophobe, and the Greens are tapdancing in their efforts to court both the Muslim and gay vote.


the greens might be, they're typically the biggest hypocrites in politics so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

on the other hand, it could also mean that the bouncer is just be another islamaphobe who doesn't know what he heard so made something up to suit his islamophobia ... much like you do actually.


You are clutching at straws John.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2021 at 2:45pm

freediver wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 2:44pm:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 2:32pm:

freediver wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 2:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


It means she is a homophobe, and the Greens are tapdancing in their efforts to court both the Muslim and gay vote.


the greens might be, they're typically the biggest hypocrites in politics so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

on the other hand, it could also mean that the bouncer is just be another islamaphobe who doesn't know what he heard so made something up to suit his islamophobia ... much like you do actually.


You are clutching at straws John.


no more than you or the OP FD

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Belgarion on May 30th, 2021 at 3:25pm

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


And here is a perfect example of what I said in my previous post. One of the usual suspects trying desperately to find a way out of this dilemma.  ;D

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on May 30th, 2021 at 3:38pm

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

What a dilemma for the usual suspects....Ethnic, Islamic female who is also a Greens councillor assaults a gay person and says she wants to kill them all.......it must be doing their heads in deciding who requires the most virtue signalling support. ;D

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-accused-of-starting-fight-launching-homophobic-tirade-20210518-p57sxy.html

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/greens-councillor-homophobic-brawl-trans-woman/

These sources tell the same story.


If it is now changing then it seems the woke mob are spin doctoring to best possible light on the story.

Wouldn't be surprising if in the final version the whole thing was actually an assault by a pack of Neo Nazi white people. ;D



Yeah, that how it happened !         ;D          :D

Some Neo Nazi white people were beating up on some trans LBGTQIXYZ person,
and then Anab Mohamud, the Yarra City councillor, a moslem, and a member of the Australian Greens came along,
and decided to defend the trans LBGTQIXYZ person, and fight off those hateful Neo Nazi white people, who were oppressing their fellow Australians.

And that, was how she got her 'face'.

It was that group of those WHITE, far-right racists, that beat up on Anab Mohamud !!

You know that it is true !

/sarc off




IMAGE.....




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THIS IS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY REPORTED,
IN Star Observer ["Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979"]




Quote:

......
“The Victorian Greens would like to emphasise that we do not condone violence or abuse in any form and condemn this vicious assault on a woman of colour.”

“In the aftermath of this event, the Victorian Greens want to assure all LGBTIQA+ Australians that we are with you, and will always fight discrimination, bigotry and abuse in all its forms......


https://www.starobserver.com.au/news/police-probing-altercation-outside-poof-doof-involving-greens-councillor/203151


SPIN, SPIN, SPIN.


Of course you will.

But you won't ever learn how to take responsibility, for what your own choices bring upon you [and those around you].


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Yep.    ....that is the way the LEFT, Marxist, WOKE work.
....if at all possible, bend every single story [of wrongdoing] to 'fit in' with their ideological narrative,
of a WHITE culture, being always responsible, for every ill that is identified, within a 'diverse' society.




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Ajax on May 30th, 2021 at 3:41pm
The disturbing thing is if a man bashed a woman like this it would be front page and one of the first stories at 6:00pm.

Has this even been on MSM, dont know just asking, I haven't seen it.

So transwoman bashing woman regardless of what was said or happened is ok then.........?!

Transwoman is a man who thinks he is woman even though he was born a man.


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on May 30th, 2021 at 3:51pm

Quote:
The disturbing thing is if a man bashed a woman like this it would be front page and one of the first stories at 6:00pm.


If he was a politician, sure.


Quote:
Has this even been on MSM, dont know just asking, I haven't seen it.


Yes. Belgarion posted some links on the first page.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on May 30th, 2021 at 4:19pm
Do Muzlooms not like gays?




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2021 at 4:35pm

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


And here is a perfect example of what I said in my previous post. One of the usual suspects trying desperately to find a way out of this dilemma.  ;D


i have no dilemma to try and get out off you fool  ... just admit it, you all blew your load while your pants were still on.

Have you figured out what 'along the lines of' means yet or not?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Belgarion on May 31st, 2021 at 10:46am

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 4:35pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


And here is a perfect example of what I said in my previous post. One of the usual suspects trying desperately to find a way out of this dilemma.  ;D


i have no dilemma to try and get out off you fool  ... just admit it, you all blew your load while your pants were still on.

Have you figured out what 'along the lines of' means yet or not?


Who do you have a hard on for in this dilemma Mr Smith? What wakes your wokeness, what signals your virtue?  The man pretending to be a woman or the female Green jihadi?  ;D

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on May 31st, 2021 at 7:53pm
Gordon's post, images.....




That guy looking at you, he is dead now.   ....and his friend too.






And the shadow on the wall, he is dead too.




Those, in the images above,    ...are 'NON-persons' now.



This is what ISLAM, is really, really, really, really, really good at.

In moslem majority nations.....    ISLAM creates A LOT, of dead bodies.

For 1,400 years,       ....ISLAM has created LOTS, and LOTS, of dead bodies.



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 1st, 2021 at 1:28am

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:20am:
“[She] also said something in what I believe was in Arabic and not understandable, followed by words along the line of, ‘I swear to Allah if I lose my eye I will make sure all these bugger*ts die.’”

so not those exact words then?  ::) ::) ::)
did yadda blow his load early .... again?





Quote:
“Our understanding is that the version of events reported in the media has been contradicted by subsequent police witness statements.

“These contradictory witness statements are yet to be resolved by police. We therefore remain uncertain about the reliability of what has been reported.


https://qnews.com.au/greens-councillor-accused-of-homophobic-tirade-after-poof-doof-assault/



Just means she can't speak English dialect... she's saying she would rather lose her eye = sight than let those ass jockeys live, and she will work towards not losing her eyesight by ensuring their extermination.... simple, neh?

You just need to know the language and its nuances...

I say let the Muslim and other gays live - s'long as they don't trouble me I have no issue with them... the lesos now - jeez - what a waste of fine pussy sometimes.... but all fine pussy is fleeting so not a real concern....

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 1st, 2021 at 5:45pm
So what happened to all those "contradictory" versions of events?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 1st, 2021 at 7:00pm

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 5:45pm:

So what happened to all those "contradictory" versions of events?



THIS IS WHAT WAS REPORTED,
IN Star Observer ["Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979"]




Quote:

......
1/   “The Victorian Greens would like to emphasise that we do not condone violence or abuse in any form and condemn this vicious assault on a woman of colour.”


2/   “In the aftermath of this event, the Victorian Greens want to assure all LGBTIQA+ Australians that we are with you, and will always fight discrimination, bigotry and abuse in all its forms......


https://www.starobserver.com.au/news/police-probing-altercation-outside-poof-doof-involving-greens-councillor/203151


n.b.
1/   A 'woman of colour', suffered a 'vicious assault'.    !!!!!

2/   And 'The Victorian Greens' with LBGTQIXYZ cadres in Australia, will 'always fight discrimination, bigotry and abuse'.

SO THERE, YOU BIGOTS !!!


That report, makes it sound, like 'The Victorian Greens' want this whole 'ugly' incident.....

[involving considerable intolerance and violence],

which also involved 'actors' from two prominent 'fringe' 'client groups' [being groups which 'The Victorian Greens' are aligned with, and 'apologise' for],

....to go away.   ???



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 1st, 2021 at 7:21pm

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 5:45pm:
So what happened to all those "contradictory" versions of events?



the same thing that happened with the confirmation of this version

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 1st, 2021 at 7:22pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 1:28am:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:20am:
“[She] also said something in what I believe was in Arabic and not understandable, followed by words along the line of, ‘I swear to Allah if I lose my eye I will make sure all these bugger*ts die.’”

so not those exact words then?  ::) ::) ::)
did yadda blow his load early .... again?





Quote:
“Our understanding is that the version of events reported in the media has been contradicted by subsequent police witness statements.

“These contradictory witness statements are yet to be resolved by police. We therefore remain uncertain about the reliability of what has been reported.


https://qnews.com.au/greens-councillor-accused-of-homophobic-tirade-after-poof-doof-assault/


[highlight]
Just means she can't speak English dialect...


She's a politician .. I'd hazard a guess that her English is better than yours.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Belgarion on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 12:48pm
Seems the noble Greens politician has a history of violence and criminal behaviour..https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html?fbclid=IwAR3Agb6toRnXHggS8ZP5wmkT6-6mvTskdRnk1ZEtKN8Y14Q0cGPYlTfe3gQ

Note how the Greens attempt to excuse her criminality by playing the race card....How pathetic, and yet how typical. ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 3:27pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 12:48pm:

Seems the noble Greens politician has a history of violence and criminal behaviour..

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html?fbclid=IwAR3Agb6toRnXHggS8ZP5wmkT6-6mvTskdRnk1ZEtKN8Y14Q0cGPYlTfe3gQ



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Quote:

Greens councillor bashed near gay club faces separate assault charges

By Cameron Houston and Chris Vedelago
June 1, 2021


.......Video footage obtained by The Age shows Cr Mohamud and a man walking down Bray Street about 3.40am, when she stops outside a caged smoking area to the rear of Chasers nightclub.

Another witness, who works as a manager at Poof Doof, told police Cr Mohamud reached through the bars of the smoking area and grabbed a “trans woman” by the hair.

The manager, who asked not to be identified, said he helped to separate the pair, before the patron opened an emergency door and pursued Cr Mohamud along Bray Street.

The manager alleges in his statement that Cr Mohamud was yelling “Allahu Akbar” – the Muslim declaration that God is great – after the incident.

Police have received at least three other statements from Chasers staff that accuse Cr Mohamud of starting the incident and launching a homophobic tirade after she was assaulted.



https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 5:33pm

Quote:
Police have received at least three other statements from Chasers staff that accuse Cr Mohamud of starting the incident and launching a homophobic tirade after she was assaulted.


Time for John to do some more tapdancing.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html?fbclid=IwAR3Agb6toRnXHggS8ZP5wmkT6-6mvTskdRnk1ZEtKN8Y14Q0cGPYlTfe3gQ


Quote:
A Yarra City councillor and member of the Australian Greens, who was involved in a violent altercation outside a gay club in South Yarra last month, is facing a range of serious assault and theft charges arising from a separate incident in December last year.

Cr Anab Mohamud has been charged with assault, intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury, assault with an instrument and assault in company over the alleged attack in Dandenong.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:25pm
I wonder what lesson we are meant to gain from this episode?  Is it because she was a Muslim or just that she was Homophobic?  If it is the former, what about the Muslims who ignore Gay People?  Are they to be ignored?  If it is because of Homophobia, then where are the posts condemning similar statements on here about Homophobia?  Mmmm?  Appears to be to be another effort at Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:28pm

freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Time for John to do some more tapdancing.



I don't do tapdancing ... can't tapdance whilst I'm busy laughing at you. I've never said the incident didn't happen. I merely asked what does 'along the lines of' mean. Was that really so hard for you FD? ::)

BTW ... have you noticed that in yaddas latest link, the only words she's claimed to have yelled are 'Allahu Akbar” ...no mention of anything being 'along the lines of' anything else....

You ever get the feeling you've been conned FD? 

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:25pm:
I wonder what lesson we are meant to gain from this expisode?  Is it because she was a Muslim or just that she was Homophobic?  If it is the former, what about the Muslims who ignore Gay People?  Are they to be ignored?  If it is because of Homophobia, then where are the posts condemning similar statements on here about Homophobia?  Mmmm?  Appears to be to be another effort at Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


please .... fd doesn't care when valkie or goober say poofs should be hung ... it's only when muslims might say it that he gives a sheat

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Karnal on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Time for John to do some more tapdancing.



I don't do tapdancing ... can't tapdance whilst I'm busy laughing at you. I've never said the incident didn't happen. I merely asked what does 'along the lines of' mean. Was that really so hard for you FD? ::)

BTW ... have you noticed that in yaddas latest link, the only words she's claimed to have yelled are 'Allahu Akbar” ...no mention of anything being 'along the lines of' anything else....

You ever get the feeling you've been conned FD? 


Er, it was a question.

Ask FD if he's up for one yet.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:43pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Time for John to do some more tapdancing.



I don't do tapdancing ... can't tapdance whilst I'm busy laughing at you. I've never said the incident didn't happen. I merely asked what does 'along the lines of' mean. Was that really so hard for you FD? ::)

BTW ... have you noticed that in yaddas latest link, the only words she's claimed to have yelled are 'Allahu Akbar” ...no mention of anything being 'along the lines of' anything else....

You ever get the feeling you've been conned FD? 


I think a lot of people were conned into voting for this person.

Conned by people like you, who go on autopilot and speak in her defence because she is a Muslim, and say things that would never occur to them to say if she was anything but a Muslim.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 10:56pm

freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:43pm:

I think a lot of people were conned into voting for this person.


From already published reports, Yarra City councillor, Anab Mohamud,
appears [her moslem faith aside], to be 'a troublesome woman'.




Quote:

A Yarra City councillor and member of the Australian Greens, who was involved in a violent altercation outside a gay club in South Yarra last month, is facing a range of serious assault and theft charges arising from a separate incident in December last year.

Cr Anab Mohamud has been charged with assault, intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury, assault with an instrument and assault in company over the alleged attack in Dandenong.

Cr Mohamud, who has a “strong connection to Greens values” according to her profile on the Australian Greens website, is also facing several counts of theft and criminal damage.
......

Several sworn statements provided by witnesses to police investigators accuse Cr Mohamud of instigating the altercation with another woman, before allegedly exclaiming “Allahu Akbar” and vowing to “make sure all these faggots die”.
......

Video footage obtained by The Age shows Cr Mohamud and a man walking down Bray Street about 3.40am, when she stops outside a caged smoking area to the rear of Chasers nightclub.

Another witness, who works as a manager at Poof Doof, told police Cr Mohamud reached through the bars of the smoking area and grabbed a “trans woman” by the hair.
......


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html


This Yarra City councillor, Anab Mohamud is accused of,

allegedly, expressing hatred for, and assaulting a person belonging to a minority group in the Australian community,
and,
relating to another incident, she is allegedly, also "facing several counts of theft and criminal damage".




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 11:30pm
If you are condemning her because of her homophobia, Yadda, where is your condemnation of the posters who posted, including yourself, against Marriage Equality when it was an issue?  Tsk, tsk, such a selective memory you suffer from.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Raven on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 12:44am
This is why religion has no place in acceptable society.

Yadda, well done in bring our attention to this.

A religious fruitcake has shown how unacceptable their beliefs are.

Seriously how can you wish death on a person of consenting age who enjoys the company of another person of consenting age.

Anyone who hates something like that is demented and broken.

Again BRAVO!!

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Valkie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:29am

Raven wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 12:44am:
This is why religion has no place in acceptable society.

Yadda, well done in bring our attention to this.

A religious fruitcake has shown how unacceptable their beliefs are.

Seriously how can you wish death on a person of consenting age who enjoys the company of another person of consenting age.

Anyone who hates something like that is demented and broken.

Again BRAVO!!



It is not a religion.......It is a cult.

It ticks all the boxes of an extremist cult, only far, far larger and more insidious than any other cult.

It brings death, crime and depravity wherever it goes.

It has no place in civilized society.
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Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 9:01am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 11:30pm:

If you are condemning her because of her homophobia, Yadda, where is your condemnation of the posters who posted, including yourself, against Marriage Equality when it was an issue?

Tsk, tsk, such a selective memory you suffer from.  ::) ::)


LINK ?

What did i say ?


.


brian,

Everyday,     ....we all witness the numerous and continual examples of moslems displaying their intolerance and acts of vicious violence towards persons who are not moslems
[simply because those persons are not moslems].   !!!!


brian,

When was the last time anyone on OzPol heard you berate or castigate     any moslem     for their open displays of violent religious bigotry ?



.



QUESTION;
1/ Why should anyone criticise ISLAM ?

...What is there to criticise about ISLAM ?

2/ What actions, of their fellow moslems, should moslems and brian be ashamed of ?



HAVE A LOOK FOR YOURSELF     ------ >

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/jihad-doctrine

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/jihad-in-the-west

JIHAD WATCH**



.



Items in the 2021-05-31 Jihad Watch Daily Digest....

WWW search title headlines to find individual articles....


Quote:

In Wake of Muslim Attacks on Jews, Biden Campaign’s Jewish Engagement Director Tells Jews to Conceal Their Faith

UK: Jihadi who murdered two people at deradicalization event was enabled by police and MI5 bungling

France: Four Muslim migrants arrested for plotting jihad massacre

[in the...] UK: Muslim cleric says ‘the only solution is jihad,’ calls for Muslim countries to wage war against Israel

[in the...] UK: Muslim screams at Jewish nurse ‘I want to kill all your people’

‘Palestinian’ ‘refugee’ ‘journalist’: ‘By Allah, when rockets reach Ashdod and I hear sirens, it’s like music to me’

Austria: ‘Middle Eastern’ man beats man on train who objected to his anti-Semitic rhetoric

Hamas provides the lies and damned lies, Israel provides the statistics proving it didn’t hit civilians

Hamas top dog promises more jihad stabbings and fires, claims ‘this was just a general rehearsal’

Pakistan: Muslim mob murders Christian for trying to defend his sister whom Muslims had stripped naked in street

Rabbi Aryeh Spero Takes on America’s Hamas Caucus






.



IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCES of ISLAM's doctrines of malice and DAILY murders, at these sites....

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/


JIHAD WATCH**
Exposing the role that Islamic jihad theology and ideology play in the modern global conflicts

https://www.jihadwatch.org/





Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 11:30pm:
If you are condemning her because of her homophobia, Yadda, where is your condemnation of the posters who posted, including yourself, against Marriage Equality when it was an issue?  Tsk, tsk, such a selective memory you suffer from.  ::) ::)

It is not 'homophobia' to oppose gay marriage. Gay marriage is not about 'marriage equality', a formulation calculared to deceive.



What are the Islamic teachings on "marriage equality" or gay marriage?


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Valkie on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 2:44pm
Bwyannnnnnn's continual posting of the same thing over and over, with not reasoned debate is beyond mental illness.
Its a sign of some serious mental problem that needs attention.

This is a plea from all those in this forum.

Bwyannnnnnn, please, for your own sake......GET SOME HELP.
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Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 3:23pm


Selective memories.  A not unusual problem in Islamophobes.  Perhaps it is a genetic problem that goes hand-in-hand with their Islamophobia?  Who knows?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:40pm

freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Time for John to do some more tapdancing.



I don't do tapdancing ... can't tapdance whilst I'm busy laughing at you. I've never said the incident didn't happen. I merely asked what does 'along the lines of' mean. Was that really so hard for you FD? ::)

BTW ... have you noticed that in yaddas latest link, the only words she's claimed to have yelled are 'Allahu Akbar” ...no mention of anything being 'along the lines of' anything else....

You ever get the feeling you've been conned FD? 


I think a lot of people were conned into voting for this person.

Conned by people like you, who go on autopilot and speak in her defence because she is a Muslim, and say things that would never occur to them to say if she was anything but a Muslim.


Looks like you've overdosed on stupid pills again. I've never asked anyone to vote for this person, or any other green, or any other muslim for that matter. Only idiots join the Greens. ...

which reminds me, weren't you a member of the greens once FD? ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:06pm
Never been a member of the greens.

Would you go out of your way defending a politician charged with multiple separate counts of assault, accused of attacking queers in a gay bar and threatening to kill homosexuals, if they were not a Muslim?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:31pm


freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:06pm:
Never been a member of the greens.


Your loss ... you would have been a natural fit for the greens.



freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:06pm:
Would you go out of your way defending a politician charged with multiple separate counts of assault, accused of attacking queers in a gay bar and threatening to kill homosexuals, if they were not a Muslim?


I haven't defended anyone. I find it funny how you automatically see anyone who doesn't jump on your muslim bashing brigade  as 'defending muslims.


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:34pm
So you are backpedalling now?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:37pm

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:34pm:
So you are backpedalling now?



Have you worked out what exactly 'words along the lines of' means yet?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:51pm
You even went out of your way to tell lies to support this woman.


John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


Would you go out of your way to make up lies in defence of a politician charged with multiple separate counts of assault, accused of attacking queers in a gay bar and threatening to kill homosexuals, if they were not a Muslim?

Or does this not count as defending because you would have been making up lies anyway?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:57pm
Several sworn statements provided by witnesses to police investigators accuse Cr Mohamud of instigating the altercation with another woman, before allegedly exclaiming “Allahu Akbar” and vowing to “make sure all these faggots die”.

“[Cr Mohamud] told me numerous times to ‘bring that bitch back, I’ll f--- her up’. She has also yelled out various things, such as ‘f--- the LG family’ and also said something in what I believe was in Arabic and not understandable, followed by words along the line of, ‘I swear to Allah if I lose my eye I will make sure all these faggots die’,” the guard alleges in a statement to police.

Another witness, who works as a manager at Poof Doof, told police Cr Mohamud reached through the bars of the smoking area and grabbed a “trans woman” by the hair.



https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:01pm
She likes to go the biff and steal.

Cr Anab Mohamud has been charged with assault, intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury, assault with an instrument and assault in company over the alleged attack in Dandenong.

Cr Mohamud, who has a “strong connection to Greens values” according to her profile on the Australian Greens website, is also facing several counts of theft and criminal damage.

Another woman from Fitzroy has been charged over the alleged attack on two men on December 6 last year. She and Cr Mohamud are due to face Dandenong Magistrates Court on August 24.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:19pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:01pm:

........Another woman from Fitzroy        has been charged over the alleged attack on two men on December 6 last year.

She and Cr Mohamud are due to face Dandenong Magistrates Court on August 24.


Is it another    MOSLEM    woman ?

Just wondering ?


ISLAMIC law      makes it lawful     for moslems to 'take' things, if the person 'losing' that property is a non-moslem.

Also ISLAMIC law      makes it lawful     for moslems to attack, assault, and to rob persons who are non-moslem.

100% true.


.



"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44


"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."     [i.e.    no protection in law]
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:39pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:01pm:

........Another woman from Fitzroy        has been charged over the alleged attack on two men on December 6 last year.

She and Cr Mohamud are due to face Dandenong Magistrates Court on August 24.


Is it another    MOSLEM    woman ?


Just wondering ?



I want to be informed.    !!!!!

I want to know what is 'happening' around me, and what is 'happening' in my society.    !!!!!

And, i want to know WHO is doing ['whatever'].



It is a normal human desire.

To want to know, what is happening around me, and why,   .....and, to want to understand how those 'happenings' can affect MY LIFE !



.


THESE 'HAPPENINGS' [involving the followers of ISLAM] ARE HAPPENING EVERYWHERE TODAY.

AND, THEY ARE HAPPENING WAY TOO OFTEN, TO MY LIKING.


------- >

IMAGE.....


Self-Described ‘Islamic Bonnie and Clyde’ Guilty of Plot to Attack ‘Non-Believers,’


.


Oct 06, 2018


Quote:

By Christine Douglass-Williams on Oct 06, 2018

Australia: “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde” plotted New Year’s Eve jihad stabbing attack on non-Muslims

A couple who described themselves as an “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde” have been found guilty in an Australian court of planning a New Year’s Eve terrorist stabbing attack on non-Muslims.

Sameh Bayda and Alo-Bridget Namoa, both 21, were charged last year with the offences.

Now the two will enter prison, where they will likely join forces with other jihadists.


In February 2016, Sameh Bayda said to investigators that she wanted to do an “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde on the Kaffir.”


Prosecutors alleged Bayda.....said each believed they had a “religious obligation to attack non-believers”.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/10/australia-islamic-bonnie-and-clyde-plotted-new-years-eve-jihad-stabbing-attack-on-non-muslims




NOW TELL ME AGAIN.....

What justification did that young "Aussie" moslem couple give,
to explain their want,     to kill their 'fellow' Australians ???



------- >


Quote:

Prosecutors alleged Bayda.....said each believed they had a “religious obligation to attack non-believers”.




.



Moslem = = a follower of ISLAM.



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2

Quote:

MY ARGUMENT;
1/ Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must fight and kill people, who reject ISLAM, and reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law.

And, a new attack is going to occur whenever      any individual moslem [living among us, in Australia] decides that 'now' is a good moment for him to prove his devotion to ISLAM and to Allah.




.



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8

Quote:

Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.


SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.





Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:12pm


Who does Yadda hate the most?  The Gays, the Greens or the Muslims?  I'll leave it up to you decide.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:12pm:


Who does Yadda hate the most?  The Gays, the Greens or the Muslims?  I'll leave it up to you decide.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

You, probably...

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:49pm

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:51pm:
You even went out of your way to tell lies to support this woman.


John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 1:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on May 30th, 2021 at 11:40am:

These sources tell the same story.


It's the same 'source' .. the bouncer ... all you have is different sights reporting on what his claims.

and while your at it, do you even know what 'along the lines of' means?  ;D ;D


Would you go out of your way to make up lies in defence of a politician charged with multiple separate counts of assault, accused of attacking queers in a gay bar and threatening to kill homosexuals, if they were not a Muslim?

Or does this not count as defending because you would have been making up lies anyway?


Surely it would have been easier for you to admit that you didn't know what 'words along the lines of' meant, then it was to make such a fool of yourself with that sort of stupidity?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:35pm
You lied, in order to defended a Muslim for doing something, when you not not offer the same defence for any other politician in the same situation. This is how people like you conned the public into to voting for her.

You set a lower bar for Muslims than for any other person. You don't expect much from them, so you can sing their praises when they stop short of acting like Hitler.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:38pm
Yes, we all know abut you and your imaginary lies FD.

Now, just admit you're an idiot and move on.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:40pm
Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:43pm

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


At the time I made that comment, Yes. I haven't read anything about it after.

Now, will you admit you're an idiot who doesn't know what 'along the lines of' means?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Karnal on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John.


Oh? Sometimes an answer is just an answer, no?

Are you up for a question yet?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:53pm
Several sworn statements provided by witnesses to police investigators accuse Cr Mohamud of instigating the altercation with another woman, before allegedly exclaiming “Allahu Akbar” and vowing to “make sure all these faggots die”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:54pm
And she's already been charged with assault on a previous matter.

A Yarra City councillor and member of the Australian Greens, who was involved in a violent altercation outside a gay club in South Yarra last month, is facing a range of serious assault and theft charges arising from a separate incident in December last year.

Cr Anab Mohamud has been charged with assault, intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury, assault with an instrument and assault in company over the alleged attack in Dandenong.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Cu Chulainn on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:25pm:
I wonder what lesson we are meant to gain from this episode?  Is it because she was a Muslim or just that she was Homophobic?  If it is the former, what about the Muslims who ignore Gay People?  Are they to be ignored?  If it is because of Homophobia, then where are the posts condemning similar statements on here about Homophobia?  Mmmm?  Appears to be to be another effort at Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


Perhaps it's because she's a Muslim that she is homophobic?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Karnal on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:02pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time?


That's a question, JS. Let's ask another. Let's ask this:

FD, do you uphold the right to tell lies?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:05pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.


Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4th, 2021 at 11:17pm

Cu Chulainn wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:25pm:
I wonder what lesson we are meant to gain from this episode?  Is it because she was a Muslim or just that she was Homophobic?  If it is the former, what about the Muslims who ignore Gay People?  Are they to be ignored?  If it is because of Homophobia, then where are the posts condemning similar statements on here about Homophobia?  Mmmm?  Appears to be to be another effort at Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


Perhaps it's because she's a Muslim that she is homophobic?


That is a possibility.  However what about all the Muslims who live quite happily, side-by-side with Gay people?  Why aren't they homophobic as well?  Moreover which is worse in your opinion?  Her religion or where homophobia?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 5th, 2021 at 3:31am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 11:17pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 6:25pm:
I wonder what lesson we are meant to gain from this episode?  Is it because she was a Muslim or just that she was Homophobic?  If it is the former, what about the Muslims who ignore Gay People?  Are they to be ignored?  If it is because of Homophobia, then where are the posts condemning similar statements on here about Homophobia?  Mmmm?  Appears to be to be another effort at Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


Perhaps it's because she's a Muslim that she is homophobic?


That is a possibility.


However what about all the Muslims who live quite happily, side-by-side with Gay people?


Why aren't they homophobic as well?

Moreover which is worse in your opinion?

Her religion or where homophobia?   ::) ::)



brian,

That suggestion is a little disingenuous, as your post makes it sound as though 'THE NORM',
is that moslems [aka followers of ISLAM]    ...."live quite happily, side-by-side with Gay people".

And that is absolutely a misrepresentation of 'the dynamic' of 'avoidance', which exists in 'the relationship' between the mainstream moslem community and the 'Gay' community in Australia.

We both know that the mainstream moslem community in Australia, harbours a hatred and bias and disgust,
against and for, "Gay people".


.


Moslems [aka followers of ISLAM]    ...."live quite happily, side-by-side with Gay people".

Really ?

brian,

Do tell us....

What proportion of the population, being followers of ISLAM,
in moslem majority jurisdictions such as,
Pakistan,
Somalia,
Saudi Arabia,
Jordan,
Yemen,
Iran,
etc, etc,   "live quite happily, side-by-side with Gay people" ?

i.e.
Without killing them !


Not a lot !!      ....i would offer.




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 5th, 2021 at 3:48am


Moslems [aka followers of ISLAM]    ...."live quite happily, side-by-side with Gay people".
- brian

bull poo




brian,

It has been previously published in Australia, that gay persons living in Australia, WHO COME FROM THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY,
have separated themselves from the mainstream moslem community in Australia,
and hide themselves from members of that community !!! ,
because of threats against their lives, in Australia, from moslems [being members of their own families ! ] !!!




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 5th, 2021 at 1:59pm


Until you provide evidence, Yadda, you're just barking up a dead tree.  Tsk, tsk, your Islamophobia rules your mind.  Seek help.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Belgarion on Jun 5th, 2021 at 2:56pm
Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bind



"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/7341142?nw=0


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 5th, 2021 at 3:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 1:59pm:

Until you provide evidence, Yadda, you're just barking up a dead tree.



brian claims to be an educated, 'lettered' man.

But even a rudimentary WWW search about    VIOLENT    intolerance in ISLAM, is too difficult for this person.




Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 5:41pm:

I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.



.


Simple's...


Yadda will shows youse....

WWW search....
gay muslims, in "Australia", death threat


It turns out, that even straight EX-moslems claim they have received death threats from within the moslem community, in Australia......



But we should not worry [according to Brian Ross], because.....

"ISLAM is peace, ....ISLAM is tolerance."


Thankfully, more and more people, are coming to know that that claim is complete Bull tish.

And they are coming to know that all moslems barefacedly lie about ISLAM,
and that all moslems will intentionally misrepresent the nature and character of ISLAM,
to any ill-informed non-moslem who makes an enquiry.




.



IMAGE.....


Zara Kay - says, she became an atheist after being disillusioned with ISLAMIC law


.



Quote:

'I was called a sl*t for taking off my hijab':
Student, 26, who renounced Islam reveals she still receives death threats for ditching the religion – and says hundreds more women are living in fear


By Stephen Johnson
14 January 2019


Zara Kay, who moved to Melbourne in 2012 to continue studying information technology and engineering, renounced her Muslim faith after realising the religion she was raised with was, in her opinion, anti-women and anti-gay.

The 26-year-old Tanzanian-raised founder of the Faithless Hijabi support group said there were hundreds of ex-Muslims in Australia, who live in fear of being ostacised, abused or even killed.


......

Ms Kay left Islam after non-Muslims pointed out the religion was incompatible with her modern values.

'I rejected a lot of Islamic values such as the punishment of gay people, inequality between genders and forced hijab,' she said.

Fundamentalist Muslims also regard apostasy, or leaving Islam, as a sin deserving of death.

......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6587935/Former-Muslim-Zara-Kay-speaks-death-threats-supports-ex-Muslims-Australia.html



.



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1616663009/0#0

Quote:

ARGUMENTS;
1/ Every person who self-identifies as a moslem, is a follower of ISLAM [...it is the dictionary definition!].

2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must HATE, and **fight and kill people who reject ISLAM, and reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law.

[** or at the very least, must support those directly engaged in that warfare]


ARGUMENT;
If a person did not want to associate himself with what ISLAM is, that person would CHOOSE to [at least within his own heart!] renounce ISLAM, and to denounce what ISLAM is, and leave it.


But instead,    ....the vast majority of moslems do not renounce ISLAM, and do not denounce what ISLAM is, nor leave it.

So [logically], every person who self-identifies as a moslem,    is thus choosing, to associate himself with what ISLAM is.




.



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?









Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 5th, 2021 at 3:09pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 2:56pm:
Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bind



"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/7341142?nw=0



That is better but it still represents a tiny minority of Muslims, Belgarion.  In Sydney there is a thriving Gay community, just as there is a thriving Muslim community, living side-by-side and that cannot be ignored.  You cannot throw all Muslims into the same boat on this one.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 5th, 2021 at 5:42pm

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.


Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?


that's all I've commented on

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Belgarion on Jun 5th, 2021 at 7:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 2:56pm:
Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bind



"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/7341142?nw=0



That is better but it still represents a tiny minority of Muslims, Belgarion.  In Sydney there is a thriving Gay community, just as there is a thriving Muslim community, living side-by-side and that cannot be ignored.  You cannot throw all Muslims into the same boat on this one.  ::) ::)


The point the people are making  in both articles Brian is that persecution is very much the norm in Muslim society. The very fact that  there needs to be a special mosque for gay Muslims speaks volumes about the non acceptance of gays in mainstream Muslim society.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 5th, 2021 at 11:38pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 7:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 2:56pm:
Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bind



"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/7341142?nw=0



That is better but it still represents a tiny minority of Muslims, Belgarion.  In Sydney there is a thriving Gay community, just as there is a thriving Muslim community, living side-by-side and that cannot be ignored.  You cannot throw all Muslims into the same boat on this one.  ::) ::)


The point the people are making  in both articles Brian is that persecution is very much the norm in Muslim society. The very fact that  there needs to be a special mosque for gay Muslims speaks volumes about the non acceptance of gays in mainstream Muslim society.


Not so long ago, when I was a young man, I live around the corner from a Gay Christian Church.   Christians did and some still do, engage in persecution of Gay people.  The Muslims are not unique in that regard, despite what you appear to be claiming, Belgarion.  Gays may face non-acceptance in Muslim communities but Muslim communities exist side-by-side with Gay communities.  That is a fact that you and others appear unwilling to accept for some strange reason.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 6th, 2021 at 7:52am

John Smith wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.


Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?


that's all I've commented on


Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 6th, 2021 at 9:32am

freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.


Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?


that's all I've commented on


Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?


probably the same reason you're afraid to use your brain ... it's pointless and in your case no one would even notice.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Frank on Jun 6th, 2021 at 9:55am

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.


Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?


that's all I've commented on


Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?


probably the same reason you're afraid to use your brain ... it's pointless and in your case no one would even notice.


:o


No yawn? No tut tut and eyerolling? You'll answer fd's question when he answers yours first??




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:00am

Frank wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 9:55am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?


It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.


Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?


that's all I've commented on


Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?


probably the same reason you're afraid to use your brain ... it's pointless and in your case no one would even notice.


:o


No yawn? No tut tut and eyerolling? You'll answer fd's question when he answers yours first??


I know that's all he deserves, but no.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:06am
Would you like to offer us your opinion on the councillor John?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:24am

freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:06am:
Would you like to offer us your opinion on the councillor John?


no

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:32am

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:24am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:06am:
Would you like to offer us your opinion on the councillor John?


no


Care to comment on this?


Gordon wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:53pm:
Several sworn statements provided by witnesses to police investigators accuse Cr Mohamud of instigating the altercation with another woman, before allegedly exclaiming “Allahu Akbar” and vowing to “make sure all these faggots die”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:36am

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
Care to comment on this?


no

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:16am

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:36am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
Care to comment on this?


no


Capitulation :)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:16am

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:16am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:36am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
Care to comment on this?


no


Capitulation :)


only if you're a moron .... do you qualify gordie?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:43am

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:16am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:16am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:36am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
Care to comment on this?


no


Capitulation :)


only if you're a moron .... do you qualify gordie?



Gordon wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:53pm:
Several sworn statements provided by witnesses to police investigators accuse Cr Mohamud of instigating the altercation with another woman, before allegedly exclaiming “Allahu Akbar” and vowing to “make sure all these faggots die”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 6th, 2021 at 1:07pm
so that's a yes then ... thanks gordie!

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 6th, 2021 at 2:04pm
Ah, the never-ending river of gold called multi-culturalism...

**pulls up a rock by the fire**

"You know - nobody really cares that much if people come here and have their own restaurants and foods and stuff, goes to their own church or whatever - as long as they abide by the simple easygoing rule of 'live and let live'.

For instance, I've got nothin' against faggots an' such as long as they leave me and mine alone - and especially little kids...

It's only when they bring fanaticism here and impose it on us that the troubles begin... and them troubles aren't coming from the ordinary bloke or sheila in the street, or even from these so-called White supremacists... it's coming entirely from these groups of people with the most fixed ideas on their own rules and their own righteousness, even if it means death to others.

Now that's plain crazy..."

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:55am

John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:24am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 10:06am:
Would you like to offer us your opinion on the councillor John?


no


Because that would make you an Islamophobe?

Why is it that you are prepared to spread lies in an effort to defend her, but you cannot bring yourself to offer a comment on anything else?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:08pm

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:55am:
Because that would make you an Islamophobe?


no, I already told you, it's pointless.


freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:55am:
Why is it that you are prepared to spread lies in an effort to defend her, but you cannot bring yourself to offer a comment on anything else?


why is it that you lie in an effort to condemn her?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:11pm
Not only this matter, she has previous form for assault.


Gordon wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:53pm:
[b]Several sworn statements provided by witnesses to police investigators accuse Cr Mohamud of instigating the altercation with another woman, before allegedly exclaiming “Allahu Akbar” and vowing to “make sure all these faggots die”[/b]

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-club-faces-separate-assault-charges-20210531-p57wrz.html


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 19th, 2021 at 7:27am

John Smith wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:08pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:55am:
Because that would make you an Islamophobe?


no, I already told you, it's pointless.


freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:55am:
Why is it that you are prepared to spread lies in an effort to defend her, but you cannot bring yourself to offer a comment on anything else?


why is it that you lie in an effort to condemn her?


What lie did I tell, and why are you afraid to offer your own opinion on her?

Do you think it is not a lie if you deliberately remain ignorant of the truth?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 19th, 2021 at 9:24am

freediver wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 7:27am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:08pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:55am:
Because that would make you an Islamophobe?


no, I already told you, it's pointless.


freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:55am:
Why is it that you are prepared to spread lies in an effort to defend her, but you cannot bring yourself to offer a comment on anything else?


why is it that you lie in an effort to condemn her?


What lie did I tell, and why are you afraid to offer your own opinion on her?

Do you think it is not a lie if you deliberately remain ignorant of the truth?


a lie by definition is an intention to deceive. Not knowing the whole truth  by definition means it is NOT a lie. Try again

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 19th, 2021 at 12:20pm
Deliberately remaining ignorant as an excuse for making up any old lie you want is still telling lies John.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 19th, 2021 at 12:22pm

freediver wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 12:20pm:
Deliberately remaining ignorant as an excuse for making up any old lie you want is still telling lies John.



repeating yourself won't make you any more correct.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 20th, 2021 at 8:50am
When you make up lies in defence of violent Muslims, are you somehow unaware that you are just making up lies?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:36am

freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 8:50am:
When you make up lies in defence of violent Muslims, are you somehow unaware that you are just making up lies?



why do you make up lies to attack Muslims?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:05pm

freediver wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 12:20pm:

Deliberately remaining ignorant
        as an excuse for making up any old lie you want is still telling lies John.


Also referred to as     'willful' ignorance,     or also known as, 'looking the other way'.

i.e.
Intentionally AVERTING ones attention/eyes, to deliberately avoid being a witness [to something].



Dictionary;
wilful = =
1 intentional; deliberate.
2 stubborn and determined.






Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:34pm




Yadda, you're just barking up a dead tree.  Tsk, tsk, your Islamophobia rules your mind.  Seek help.   ::) ::)



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Valkie on Jun 20th, 2021 at 12:39pm
Bwyannnnnnnn and his boyfriend Anal, k have had their balls handed to them in the Pascoe thread.

Bwyannnnnn Defeated again, so its back to tut tut.
Anal,k follows on with asinine insults.

And we all know what that means.

The tut tut and emoji are bwyannnnnn's way of surrendering to a superior argument.
And Anal, k is simply a moron.

Its their declaration of defeat.

That's all.
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Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 20th, 2021 at 2:03pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 8:50am:
When you make up lies in defence of violent Muslims, are you somehow unaware that you are just making up lies?



why do you make up lies to attack Muslims?


For example?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 20th, 2021 at 4:28pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 2:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 11:36am:
why do you make up lies to attack Muslims?


For example?



freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 8:50am:
When you make up lies in defence of violent Muslims, are you somehow unaware that you are just making up lies?


or



freediver wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 12:20pm:
Deliberately remaining ignorant as an excuse for making up any old lie you want is still telling lies John.



freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2021 at 6:08pm:
Why is it that you are prepared to spread lies in an effort to defend her,




I could keep going on but it's rather pointless.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 20th, 2021 at 5:23pm
You make up lies in defence of violent Muslims, then use the fact that you did not bother to read the article as a justification for making up lies.

Do you actually believe it is not a lie merely because you are too lazy to bother finding out if whatever lie you make up is true? Is this the attitude to honesty that is required to be a Muslim apologist?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:19pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2021 at 5:23pm:
You make up lies in defence of violent Muslims, then use the fact that you did not bother to read the article as a justification for making up lies.



again, you're lying. Why do you do it all the time?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jun 20th, 2021 at 7:22pm
Which bit do you disagree with John? Were you just stating (made up) facts, not defending a violent Muslim?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Gordon on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:59pm
Greens councillor charged with assault, drunkenness and offensive behaviour

A Yarra City councillor and member of the Australian Greens has been charged with assault, offensive behaviour and public drunkenness over her alleged involvement in a fight with another woman in South Yarra in April.

Cr Anab Mohamud, 35, will face the Melbourne Magistrates Court in November, after suffering serious facial injuries from the altercation outside Chasers nightclub, which hosts the popular LGBTQ dance party Poof Doof.

The Age recently revealed that Cr Mohamud is facing other assault charges arising from a separate incident in Dandenong last year.

Cr Mohamud was charged by detectives from the Springvale crime investigation unit with assault, intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury, assault with an instrument and theft over the alleged attack.


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-charged-with-assault-drunkenness-and-offensive-behaviour-20210630-p585je.html

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:13pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
Greens councillor charged with assault,     drunkenness     and offensive behaviour

A Yarra City councillor and member of the Australian Greens has been charged with assault, offensive behaviour and public drunkenness over her alleged involvement in a fight with another woman in South Yarra in April.

Cr Anab Mohamud, 35, will face the Melbourne Magistrates Court in November, after suffering serious facial injuries from the altercation outside Chasers nightclub, which hosts the popular LGBTQ dance party Poof Doof.

The Age recently revealed that Cr Mohamud is facing other assault charges arising from a separate incident in Dandenong last year.

Cr Mohamud was charged by detectives from the Springvale crime investigation unit with assault, intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury, assault with an instrument and theft over the alleged attack.


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-charged-with-assault-drunkenness-and-offensive-behaviour-20210630-p585je.html


Gordon,

Thanks for the UPDATE on this incident.


And i wonder if Cr Anab Mohamud will be expelled from her local mosque, for her 'transgression' ?

:)              :o


What a naughty girl !!!




Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:44pm
Yadda why do you dislike Gays so much?  You have been on record here attacking Gays all the time.  Yet here you are attack Muslims.  Which do you hate the most, Muslims or Gays?  I wonder.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jul 1st, 2021 at 7:07am

Gordon wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
Greens councillor charged with assault, drunkenness and offensive behaviour

A Yarra City councillor and member of the Australian Greens has been charged with assault, offensive behaviour and public drunkenness over her alleged involvement in a fight with another woman in South Yarra in April.

Cr Anab Mohamud, 35, will face the Melbourne Magistrates Court in November, after suffering serious facial injuries from the altercation outside Chasers nightclub, which hosts the popular LGBTQ dance party Poof Doof.

The Age recently revealed that Cr Mohamud is facing other assault charges arising from a separate incident in Dandenong last year.

Cr Mohamud was charged by detectives from the Springvale crime investigation unit with assault, intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury, assault with an instrument and theft over the alleged attack.


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-charged-with-assault-drunkenness-and-offensive-behaviour-20210630-p585je.html


Wow. The misunderstanding continues, hey John?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jul 1st, 2021 at 8:58am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:44pm:


Yadda why do you dislike Gays so much?

You have been on record here attacking Gays all the time.

Yet here you are attack Muslims.

Which do you hate the most, Muslims or Gays?

I wonder.



Hey brian,

You seem a little confused.

This thread details how     a MOSLEM migrant,    who is in Australia was elected as a GREENS city councillor,
went on a drunken spree at night, "launching (a) homophobic tirade",
and      she started     a fight with gays at a gay club,
and then also screamed   .....‘Allahu akbar,’    ‘I will make sure these faggots die’

I refer you to the details in the OP.    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622286009/0#0



Quote:

Muslim migrant city councillor starts fight outside gay club, screams ‘Allahu akbar,’
‘I will make sure these faggots die’





.


brian,

Just to be clear,
i am not a follower of ISLAM, and,

I have never threatened any gay/homosexual person with violence.

I have never threatened   TO KILL   any gay/homosexual person.

I have never assaulted [attacked] any gay/homosexual person.



EVERYONE ELSE.....

Search for these article title lines.....

WWW search.....
Germany: More than one attack every day on gays in Berlin alone, overwhelmingly by Muslim migrants
Germany: Muslim migrant gets life imprisonment for jihad attack on homosexual couple, in which one was killed
Germany: Muslim migrant brutally attacks transvestite, stabbing him repeatedly
Belgium: One Muslim migrant beats boy for being homosexual, another films beating and screams ‘Allahu akbar’
Islamic Republic of Iran: Muslim family beheads man for being homosexual
UK: Muslim on trial for jihad massacre plot said he wanted to ‘hunt down’ homosexuals, Obama was ‘LGBT president’



https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/homosexuals

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/jihad-doctrine

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/jihad-in-the-west


.



Hey everyone,

brian is a poster on OzPol who claims to be a university educated, 'lettered' intellectual.

But this 'learned' person, doesn't seem    to be able to comprehend     what the English word    PHOBIA   describes.


---- >

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1624363700/9#9
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622286009/106#106



Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 5:41pm:

I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.





Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm
Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)


This seems to be John Smith's approach too. Perhaps all the apologists. Just make lies, and if you do not know whether it is a lie, on account of being willfully ignorant, then voilla! it is not a lie.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Setanta on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:50pm

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)


This seems to be John Smith's approach too. Perhaps all the apologists. Just make lies, and if you do not know whether it is a lie, on account of being willfully ignorant, then voilla! it is not a lie.


Brian has done this recently with the OS X is Linux stuff. Not a lie, something someone told him and he just believed it, probably because he wanted it to be true or it fit in with his ideology. Never once bothering to check if it was true or not, proceeded to tell others it was true and probably has for years... No lying involved, he just believed what he was told because it fit in with his mindset. Yes, the anti-bigot crusader is a bigot himself.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jul 1st, 2021 at 7:05pm

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)


This seems to be John Smith's approach too. Perhaps all the apologists. Just make lies, and if you do not know whether it is a lie, on account of being willfully ignorant, then voilla! it is not a lie.


you're the only liar here champ.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Valkie on Jul 1st, 2021 at 7:44pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:50pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)


This seems to be John Smith's approach too. Perhaps all the apologists. Just make lies, and if you do not know whether it is a lie, on account of being willfully ignorant, then voilla! it is not a lie.


Brian has done this recently with the OS X is Linux stuff. Not a lie, something someone told him and he just believed it, probably because he wanted it to be true or it fit in with his ideology. Never once bothering to check if it was true or not, proceeded to tell others it was true and probably has for years... No lying involved, he just believed what he was told because it fit in with his mindset. Yes, the anti-bigot crusader is a bigot himself.


Just like bwyannnnnnnn really really really wanted PASCO to be right.

But Pascoe is simply a lying parasite.

Bwyannnnnn and the other sychophants have gone real quiet on that front.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jul 1st, 2021 at 8:48pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 7:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)


This seems to be John Smith's approach too. Perhaps all the apologists. Just make lies, and if you do not know whether it is a lie, on account of being willfully ignorant, then voilla! it is not a lie.


you're the only liar here champ.


So you keep saying, but you never come up with the goods.

So tell us John, do you actually believe you are not a liar merely because you are too lazy to check whether the crap you make up (always in defence of violent Muslims, it seems) is true?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 7:32am


"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels,...

....Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.."

- Osama Bin Laden




ISLAM's way of achieving 'peace' explained - according to Osama Bin Laden...
OR,
Advice to real moslems, on how to be 'rightly guided' in your worldly relationships with infidels.

November 10, 2008
Raymond Ibrahim: "Islam's Doctrines of Deception"


Quote:

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels, this is summarized by the Most High's Word: ‘We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone’ [Koran 60:4].
So there is an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart. And this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam, or if his blood is forbidden from being shed [i.e., a dhimmi], or if Muslims are at that point in time weak and incapable [i.e., taqiyya].

But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!

Such, then, is the basis and foundation of the relationship between the infidel and the Muslim.
Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.
And we consider this a justice and kindness to them" (from The Al Qaeda Reader).
.....It bears repeating that this hostile world view is well supported by all of Islam’s schools of jurisprudence."
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/11/raymond-ibrahim-islams-doctrines-of-deception



n.b. the words....

".....But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart [of a moslem], this is great apostasy!"


Translation....

i.e.
ISLAM is teaching moslems, warning moslems, that you can only remain a moslem, if you have a [open or, concealed] burning, never-ending HATRED for all non-moslems.


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4





Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 7:39am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.

Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?

It is "knowingly told an untruth".

Lets see you prove your claim...



A FURTHER SUBMISSION ABOUT THE MOSLEM PRACTICE OF LYING [to non-moslems].

LYING WHICH IS USED BY THE MOSLEM IN ORDER TO CONFUSE AND BEFUDDLE AND DECEIVE [the naive and trusting]....




Quote:

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'"  The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).


....Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."


....Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence.  The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad.  This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.


From Islamic Law:
Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) -  "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it.  When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...


.....Additional Notes:

Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover.  The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.


Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace.  This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.


At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war).  Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace.  Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).


Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe.  The fate of the Jadhima is tragic evidence for this.  When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise.  However, the others were convinced that they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance.  (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).


Today's Muslims often try to justify Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by saying that they broke a treaty by their actions.  Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims.  From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm @2014

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx            2021 edit





Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 10:40am

Yadda wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 7:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.

Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?

It is "knowingly told an untruth".

Lets see you prove your claim...

A FURTHER SUBMISSION ABOUT THE MOSLEM PRACTICE OF LYING [to non-moslems].

LYING WHICH IS USED BY THE MOSLEM IN ORDER TO CONFUSE AND BEFUDDLE AND DECEIVE [the naive and trusting]....



Quote:

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'"  The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

....Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."

....Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence.  The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad.  This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.

From Islamic Law:
Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) -  "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it.  When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

.....Additional Notes:

Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover.  The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed

Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace.  This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.

At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war).  Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace.  Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).

Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe.  The fate of the Jadhima is tragic evidence for this.  When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise.  However, the others were convinced that they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance.  (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).

Today's Muslims often try to justify Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by saying that they broke a treaty by their actions.  Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims.  From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm @2014

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx            2021 edit


How typical, Yadda.  You have failed dismally to prove your charge that I have lied.  Funny that.  Like most who make that charge you appear to believe that you only have the truth, hidden in your breast pocket.  Tsk, tsk.  Pity the truth is very different from what you imagine it to be.  It is not a simple thing,  It is not a simple fact.  The truth, is a far greater whole than yours or the Muslims appear to believe.  God does not exist, except in your minds.  Got is a human invention.  There is no god.  No Allah.  You keep trying to prove that you, and only you, are correct and everybody especially Muslims is incorrect.  Therefore, everybody in your opinion lies.  Such foolish can only exist in the mind of a zealot like yourself, Yadda. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 10:43am
Further, you like to address an idiot, a zealot like yourself in Usama Bin Laden as if he is some authority in Islam.  Sorry, he's been disowned by most Muslims - the ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims that is.  The ones you like to blacken in every post you make with your zealotry.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Yadda on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 12:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 10:43am:


Further, you like to address an idiot, a zealot like yourself in Usama Bin Laden as if he is some authority in Islam.

Sorry, he's been disowned by most Muslims - the ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims that is.

The ones you like to blacken in every post you make with your zealotry.



With MY ZEALOTRY, is it brian !!      ;D

brian,

Oh, Osama Bin Laden has been 'disowned' by followers of ISLAM, has he ?

And what about,
1/ Allah,
2/ the Koran,
3/ ISLAMIC law,
4/ and the Sunna of Mohammed ?


Have those 'radical influences' upon the behaviour of the followers of ISLAM also been 'disowned' by moslems brian ?

/sarc off

Come on, you can give us your opinion brian.


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brian,

Tell me what about Allah and the verses of the Holy Koran
have they been 'disowned' by followers of ISLAM ?



"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


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And what about ISLAMIC law ?

Have the rights under ISLAMIC law [which moslems claim to themselves alone], been 'disowned' by the followers of ISLAM brian ?

e.g.
The right of a parent in ISLAMIC law, to murder a ['disbelieving'] son or daughter ?




Quote:

An Iranian filmmaker has allegedly been murdered by his parents in an honor killing, according to Arab media.

Babak Khorramdin, a 47 year old film-maker, is thought to have been murdered after having an argument with his father over his unmarried status.
......
And according to Islamic law, “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.”

However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (Reliance of the Traveller o1.1-2).



https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/06/honor-killing-spree-in-iran-parents-who-killed-son-confess-that-they-previously-killed-daughter-and-son-in-law


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And what about the Sunna of Mohammed ?

WWW search....
'Sunnah is the actions and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad'


Tell me, have the 'instructive' 'example' of Mohammed's deeds been 'disowned' by followers of ISLAM brian ?

Allah, describes Mohammed's life and deeds as a 'beautiful example' to all moslems.

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. "
Koran 33.021



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Mainstream ISLAMIC religious precepts    'NORMALISE'    the killing of those who reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law.

And those    [violence and slaughter inspiring]    mainstream ISLAMIC religious precepts,
are given authority,
by the Koran,
by Allah's words,
by Mohammed's words [and recorded deeds],
and by ISLAMIC law.


100% true.

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ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."


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THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



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So do tell us brian,     ....from where does ISLAM [and ISLAMIC law] derive its religious authority, to make it lawful for moslems to commit murder ?

Because we know that authority does    not    come from Osama Bin Laden.


:P            :o



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 1:22pm
You are deliberately mistranslating what the K'ran says, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.  I found that with a simple Google Search.  It appears that you are the liar here.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 7:56am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 10:43am:
Further, you like to address an idiot, a zealot like yourself in Usama Bin Laden as if he is some authority in Islam.  Sorry, he's been disowned by most Muslims - the ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims that is.  The ones you like to blacken in every post you make with your zealotry.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


Muhammad was the same kind of violent zealot as Osama, just more successful.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 2:20pm

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 8:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 7:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)


This seems to be John Smith's approach too. Perhaps all the apologists. Just make lies, and if you do not know whether it is a lie, on account of being willfully ignorant, then voilla! it is not a lie.


you're the only liar here champ.


So you keep saying, but you never come up with the goods.



sure I have. You either refuse to see it, or are incapable of accepting it. Just about every comment or rant you make is a lie. Sux to be you doesn't it?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by freediver on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 5:10pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 2:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 8:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 7:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Excuses, excuses, you never actually address the question asked, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk.



And you tell lies brian.

Do you want me to address the subject of your lies ?


If I have told lies, prove I have lied, Yadda.  Of course, you know the definition of a lie, don't you?  It is "knowingly told an untruth".  Lets see you prove your claim...   ::) ::)


This seems to be John Smith's approach too. Perhaps all the apologists. Just make lies, and if you do not know whether it is a lie, on account of being willfully ignorant, then voilla! it is not a lie.


you're the only liar here champ.


So you keep saying, but you never come up with the goods.



sure I have. You either refuse to see it, or are incapable of accepting it. Just about every comment or rant you make is a lie. Sux to be you doesn't it?


Fail. Again.

Do you actually believe you are not a liar merely because you are too lazy to check whether the crap you make up (always in defence of violent Muslims, it seems) is true?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 5:46pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 5:10pm:
Fail. Again.



see, another lie


you just can't help yourself can you?

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Agatha on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 9:18pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 7:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 2nd, 2021 at 10:43am:
Further, you like to address an idiot, a zealot like yourself in Usama Bin Laden as if he is some authority in Islam.  Sorry, he's been disowned by most Muslims - the ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims that is.  The ones you like to blacken in every post you make with your zealotry.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


Muhammad was the same kind of violent zealot as Osama, just more successful.


Islamophobic racism. OMG.

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 9:19pm
Soren's wearing a dress again...  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Agatha on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 9:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 9:19pm:
Soren's wearing a dress again...  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)



Aunt Agatha: I have never heard anything so spineless in all my life!

Brian: Well... I'm sorry! Can a chap say more? You know, I lost my nerve... could have happened to anyone!

Aunt Agatha: Not to anyone with a spine!

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 9:49pm
Soren seems to be transvestite.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Something is wrong with the world when a well respected, well at least a respected trick cyclist likes to dress up in Women's clothing in public.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Agatha on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 10:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 9:49pm:
Soren seems to be transvestite.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Something is wrong with the world when a well respected, well at least a respects trick cyclist likes to dress up in Women's clothing in public.   ::) ::)

I have a spine, unlike you.



Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 4th, 2021 at 1:59pm

Bertie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 10:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 9:49pm:
Soren seems to be transvestite.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Something is wrong with the world when a well respected, well at least a respects trick cyclist likes to dress up in Women's clothing in public.   ::) ::)

I have a spine, unlike you.


You have a broomstick shoved up your arse, mate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Post by John Smith on Jul 4th, 2021 at 2:00pm
;D ;D ;D ;D

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