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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 9^th, 2021 at 11:35am

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Well, it seems that Pro-Second Amendment American Gun Owners have finally caught on.......if it works for them, the Left, it will work for us.

Nullification via non-enforcement has proven to work, so if the Anti-Second Amendment, Gun-Grabbing Progressive-Left want to levy Federal Gun Laws upon the States, in order to Infringe upon an American's Constitutional Rights in any way, manner, or form, all the States have to do if forbid any law officer.....Federal, State, or Local.......forbid the enforcement of those laws within the State, effectively NULLIFYING the Federal Gun Laws......period.

The Federal Government won't be able to enter the State to enforce the Laws, & the State & Local Law Enforcement will not be permitted in assisting the Feds in enforcement of those gun laws........again, effectively NULLIFYING the Federal Gun Laws.

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Post by Brian Ross on May 9^th, 2021 at 12:47pm

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Post by Captain mortdooley on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:45am

Americans are not required to accept an unconstitutional law and neither is the law enforcement community. If there can be sanctuary Cities and States to protect illegal aliens from deportation than there is precedent to protect the Rights of Americans from bad laws. Nullification is a legal response to an unfair or illegal law. A new example has recently been pointed out, "my body, my choice". If it applies to abortion it definitely applies to Covid inoculations. I can not be required to take the shot after all "my body, my choice"!

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Post by SadKangaroo on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:00am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Now, now....you're being forgetful.

You should know by now, the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution affirms, protects, & defends a RIGHT......a pre-existing RIGHT of Self-Defense, using Arms (guns) that the People have the RIGHT to Keep & Bear, & use for lawful purposes.....as the People decide.

When dealing with a RIGHT, NEED never comes into the picture......the People decide what weapons to use.....not the government. And when exercising a RIGHT the People aren't required to express a NEED to the Government......because the People already have the RIGHT to defend themselves with whatever they the People decide, & the government, the servants of the People, have been told by the People, from who all power to govern must flow, that they can not infringe upon that RIGHT of the American People.........

Oh, yes I know things work differently here in Australia......the Australian People have no such RIGHTS, but we aren't talking about what RIGHTS Australians have or don't have, we need to concentrate solely on how things work in America, & what RIGHTS the American People have!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by SadKangaroo on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:50am

Blah blah blah, deflect to the constitution all you like.

I was specifically mentioning those who say they need a gun for protection of themselves and those around them, the type that honestly believe they'll put their life on the line for others if there was an active shooter, who also break down like a toddler having a tantrum when they're asked to wear a mask.

They can't pretend protection of others is a justification for their desire to have a gun.

The constitution plays no part in this.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 10^th, 2021 at 12:24pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:50am:

First of all you don't get the RIGHT to define or decide what part OUR sacred US Constitution plays in our lives....regardless of anything else, as an American our Sacred Constitution is our birthright, & the RIGHTS affirmed, protected, & defended within are just a few of our Inalienable Rights, OUR RIGHTS whether or not we choose to exercise them.........

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:05pm

Panther wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:50am:

Our? You don't live there any more. You gave up those unalienable rights once you chose to leave.

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Post by Brian Ross on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:28pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:37pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:05pm:

Panther wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:50am:

Our? You don't live there any more. You gave up those unalienable rights once you chose to leave.

Look up the word Inalienable asshole......I never gave up anything.....

I live where I choose......I come & go as I please......

I'm still an American Citizen, & nothing will stop me from Pledging My Eternal Allegiance to the American Flag, & the Republic for which it stands......first & foremost!

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BTW DonkeyBoy.........you're still on ignore......I just had to see if the shydt that you post is still shydt.....it is.....back to ignore ;D ;D ;D

;D http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/ignorea.gif ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:58pm

Panther wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 1:05pm:

Panther wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:50am:

Our? You don't live there any more. You gave up those unalienable rights once you chose to leave.

I'm sorry, you chose to move to Australia, that means you follow our laws. Or would you expect me to move to the US, and drive on the left hand side of the road, because i never chose to give up that unalienable/inalienable (when you resort to pedantism, Panther, you've lost the argument). right

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on May 10^th, 2021 at 2:00pm

And inalienable and unalienable are interchangable.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on May 10^th, 2021 at 2:00pm

I suppose I could then take thatif I choose to visit that shithole and say I have the unalienable right to decent coffee.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 10^th, 2021 at 3:28pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:02pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Masks are theatre, expecting one to contain the virus is like expecting your underwear to contain a fart!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by SadKangaroo on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:25pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:02pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Masks are theatre, expecting one to contain the virus is like expecting your underwear to contain a fart!

And so are guns.

A family member is more likely to kill themselves with a gun in the home than it is to be used on an intruder.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by SadKangaroo on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:31pm

Panther wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 12:24pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:50am:

I'm not telling anyone what to do, asshole, I'm saying if they try to justify their need for a gun based on the idea of "protection", but they're at the same time refusing to wear a mask to help protect those around them and in the community, they've proven they don't give a stuff about protection and should stop pretending that's why they want guns.

They don't care about anyone else.

It's the same for their "pro-life" stance. They're happy to force a woman to keep an unwanted pregnancy, but once the baby is born they don't care about its life. In fact, they'd be happy for it to be ended if it was by a gun lest they be forced to reassess gun ownership in the country and the constitutional amendment that allows them.

So piss of with your claims of protection and care for human life. A gun is a weapon of war which sole purpose is to end life.

All you pin dick low IQ morons simply like guns.

And that's fine, that's all the justification you need, especially when the constitution allows members of a well-regulated militia to own them.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:05pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:02pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Masks are theatre, expecting one to contain the virus is like expecting your underwear to contain a fart!

You aren't interested in facing reality ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by rhino on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:15pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:02pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Masks are theatre, expecting one to contain the virus is like expecting your underwear to contain a fart!

Well, certainly not the dribble down your leg type. But then you should be wearing diapers Mort if thats an issue for you.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:05pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:02pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Masks are theatre, expecting one to contain the virus is like expecting your underwear to contain a fart!

You aren't interested in facing reality ::) ::)

The reality is that gun laws only affect honest people and the virus has run its course but governments just can't let go of the power they have over the frightened masses!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:39pm

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:15pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:02pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Masks are theatre, expecting one to contain the virus is like expecting your underwear to contain a fart!

Well, certainly not the dribble down your leg type. But then you should be wearing diapers Mort if thats an issue for you.

Sounds like the voice of experience, I wouldn't wish that problem on anyone. Even you.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:52pm

Wonder how many other laws it would work against. Not all that you would like I bet.

Also wonder if you know about other clauses in the constitution ?

Seems that Trump and co don't like section 4 of the fourteenth very much.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:58pm

“[N]either the United States nor any State shall assume or pay . . . any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave.”

That reads like no former slave or the descendants of slaves are entitled to compensation either! No reparations for past slavery, the race baiters need to learn this!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by rhino on May 10^th, 2021 at 11:06pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:39pm:

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 10:15pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:02pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

If they won't wear a mask to protect themselves, their family or their community, they don't get to pretend "protection" is why they need a gun.

Masks are theatre, expecting one to contain the virus is like expecting your underwear to contain a fart!

Well, certainly not the dribble down your leg type. But then you should be wearing diapers Mort if thats an issue for you.

Sounds like the voice of experience, I wouldn't wish that problem on anyone. Even you.

You already have that problem on this forum, dribbling sh1t.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 11^th, 2021 at 9:18am

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 11^th, 2021 at 10:31pm

The Rich and Powerful are above the law. If it works for them I think it should work for me. I'll just call powerful friends to make any crime I commit go away just like Hillary.

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Post by Brian Ross on May 11^th, 2021 at 10:45pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 11^th, 2021 at 10:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 10:45pm:

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Maybe we don't need thousands of laws. Lets just use the Ten Commandments and Contracts for agreements and ownerships! There shouldn't be such a huge difference between "right and wrong" and "legal and illegal".

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Post by Brian Ross on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:18pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by JaSin. on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:30pm

Vote YES to empowering the USA Military (Israel)

Vote NO to empowering the USA Terrorist (Islam)
...with his bull-crap 'right' to use weapons (of mass destruction - like mass massacres), although NOT of the official Military.

By empowering the Common Man's right to carry arms is a basic condemnation and accusation of their own 'Professional' Military as being a Corruption.

In Australia - the British/Convict relationship was a HARMONIOUS one with Aboriginal peoples.
It was the FREE SETTLERS who came with their RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS that began the shooting sprees against Aboriginals in areas like Wiradjuri country and Tasmania. Most atrocities against Aboriginals were committed in Queensland - also known as the 'North America' State here in Australia.

So its that 'americanism' of the Right to carry a gun that 'invaded and genocided' the Aboriginals, not the British/Convict contribution here.
Only the Australian 'Military' have the true empowerment of carrying/using weapons. Citizens are heavily regulated and are of the 'privilege' to use a gun. Martin Bryant said he had a 'Right' to own a gun(s) and look what happened. American 'Freedom' action against evil oppressor bullcrap.

Disarm the American Citizen (Terrorist).

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 12^th, 2021 at 4:41pm

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Jasin wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The NRA............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless the NRA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless The United States Constitution............

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Post by Brian Ross on May 12^th, 2021 at 5:16pm

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Post by Panther on May 16^th, 2021 at 2:07pm

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Missouri Senate Votes For Sanctuary State Bill

Source: BearingArms
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One thing we’ve seen in 2021 is a significant influx in sanctuary states. They’re popping up all over the place, and while we know that not every state will become a Second Amendment sanctuary, a lot of them will be.

And it’s glorious.

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Missouri senators on Thursday passed a bill to block local police from enforcing federal gun laws, sending the bill to the House just hours before lawmakers’ Friday deadline.

The Republican-led Senate voted 22-10 in favor of the bill, which would penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.

Under the bill, Missouri agencies with police who knowingly enforce any federal laws could be sued and fined $50,000 per violating officer.

Most state and federal gun laws are the same anyway, and federal law enforcement could still enforce gun rules that are in federal law only.

Republican backers said they’re motivated by the possibility of new federal gun restrictions under Democratic President Joe Biden and the Democratic-led U.S. House.

“If the federal government attempts to infringe on our Second Amendment rights here in Missouri, we will stand up for our citizens,” Republican Senate President Pro Tem Dave Schatz told reporters Thursday, speaking from a podium adorned with guns.

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Nullification..........an American Tradition. You don't have to disobey a law, you just make damn sure it can't be enforced!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 16^th, 2021 at 3:22pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 16^th, 2021 at 8:15pm

More guns doesn't make anything worse, a revolving door at the jail house does. Repeat Offenders are to blame! Believing that if we can just disarm the bad guys they will become good guys is liberal fantasy.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by rhino on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:02pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

The U.S. has imprisoned more people than any other country in history. Hows that working for ya Mort?

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Post by Brian Ross on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:18pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:53pm

rhino wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:02pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

The U.S. has imprisoned more people than any other country in history. Hows that working for ya Mort?

Criminal behavior for some is a career choice, for others it is a passion. If we could dump them on Australia our crime problem would just go away! Only the short time offenders would need to be confined here.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by rhino on May 17^th, 2021 at 12:21am

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:53pm:

rhino wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:02pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

The U.S. has imprisoned more people than any other country in history. Hows that working for ya Mort?

Why does the U.S. have so many criminals Mort? Australia pales in comparison, we cant compete.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Captain mortdooley on May 17^th, 2021 at 11:21pm

rhino wrote on May 17^th, 2021 at 12:21am:

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:53pm:

rhino wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:02pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

The U.S. has imprisoned more people than any other country in history. Hows that working for ya Mort?

Why does the U.S. have so many criminals Mort? Australia pales in comparison, we cant compete.

We can always send you ours so you can treat them right and rehabilitate them! We have so many because we have so many people here and diversification of cultures! Blame LBJ!

A _____ person hasn't got a change, the ___ ___ is always going to keep us down! We were ______ and always treated like we still are! The ____ ___ hates us and wants us all to remain poor.

Fill in the blanks as you like but when a person grows up in a World that actually gives them advantages because of imaginary guilt but tells them it is the fault of some group that they can't get ahead they sometimes decide to just take what they want! A person can get a 100% discount on Nike shoes with a BLM card. How can they not see that as stealing? They will never find social justice in a Shoe Store but that doesn't stop them from taking what they like during their protests!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 18^th, 2021 at 11:46am

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~ Back on Topic ~

So, what is NULLIFICATION, & how should nullification be applied?

Here is a full length documentary that explains the concept of NULLIFICATION fairly well, & how Americans need to legitimately embrace it.

I suggest you watch it if you choose, & if NULLIFICATION has always been alien to your way of thinking, or you aren't quite sure what it is, you may be enlightened.

[media width=625]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7wYElMiZKI[/media]

RESTORE THE REPUBLIC!
"Who Would Be Free Themselves Must Strike The Blow."
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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on May 18^th, 2021 at 11:55am

rhino wrote on May 17^th, 2021 at 12:21am:

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:53pm:

rhino wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 10:02pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 16^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

The U.S. has imprisoned more people than any other country in history. Hows that working for ya Mort?

Why does the U.S. have so many criminals Mort? Australia pales in comparison, we cant compete.

Social and racial inequality

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Post by Brian Ross on May 18^th, 2021 at 1:11pm

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Post by Panther on May 18^th, 2021 at 1:12pm

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 18^th, 2021 at 2:04pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 12:19pm

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Second Amendment sanctuaries facing 1st court test in Oregon

Source: ABC NEWS
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SALEM, Ore. -- The first court test of whether local governments can ban police from enforcing certain gun laws is playing out in a rural Oregon county, one of a wave of U.S. counties declaring itself a Second Amendment sanctuary.

The measure that voters in the logging area of Columbia County narrowly approved last year forbids local officials from enforcing most federal and state gun laws and could impose thousands of dollars in fines on those who try.

Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions have been adopted by some 1,200 local governments in states around the U.S., including Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas, Illinois and Florida, according to Shawn Fields, an assistant professor of law at Campbell University who tracks them. Many are symbolic, but some, like in Columbia County, carry legal force.

The movement took off around 2018, as states considered stricter gun laws in the wake of mass shootings, including a high school shooting near Parkland, Florida, that killed 17 people and made survivors into high-profile gun control activists.

After President Joe Biden took office, conservative lawmakers in several states proposed banning police from enforcing federal gun measures, and at least one proposal in Arizona has been signed into law.

The movement hasn’t yet faced a major legal challenge. The Oregon case was filed by Columbia County under an unusual provision in state law that allows a judge to examine a measure before it goes into effect. No timeline has been set for a court hearing.

“This will allow the court to tell us whether the county can actually decline to enforce certain state laws, and it will tell us how to abide by the will of the voters to the extent that we can,” said Sarah Hanson, who serves as counsel in the conservative-leaning county in deep-blue Oregon.

Supporters of the ordinance include the Oregon Firearms Federation, which said in a November statement that “extremists” and “big city radicals" were trying to curtail gun rights.

The group referenced Portland protests opposing police brutality that occasionally turned violent last summer and called the ordinance a “common sense” step that would “ensure your right and ability to defend your life and the lives of your loved ones.”

The ordinance would ban the enforcement of laws like background check requirements and restrictions on carrying a gun, though it would have exceptions for others, including keeping firearms from convicted felons.

The Oregon Firearms Federation didn’t respond to a request for comment on the court case.

Sheriff Brian Pixley has expressed support, saying in a March statement that one of his responsibilities is to uphold people's Second Amendment rights and that he's eager to “move forward with the will of the voters.”......continued

It's going to be a hard fought battle because it includes State Law, but in the end the Sheriffs don't work for the government......they are elected by the People, & therefore Sheriffs are beholden to the Will of the People not the government!

I see this potentially going all the way to the highest court in the land.....The United States Supreme Court.....

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Post by Brian Ross on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 5:59pm

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Post by Frank on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 10:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 5:59pm:

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Post by Panther on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 11:16am

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Massive Noncompliance with SAFE Act

Source: HV1
Quote:

In January 2013, as the nation still mourned the Sandy Hook massacre, New York State enacted one of the nation’s strictest gun control laws. But three and a half years later, state records obtained after a lengthy court battle show that a key provision of the New York Safe Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act — mandatory registration of assault weapons — has been roundly ignored by gun owners in Ulster County and across the state.

The NY SAFE Act defines assault weapons as any rifle, pistol or shotgun that uses a detachable magazine and has one of a laundry list of “military features,” including flash suppressors, folding stocks, bayonet lugs and heat shields. The law banned new sales of assault weapons in the state and required current owners to register the firearms with state police.

In 2014, attorney and policy analyst Paloma Capanna filed suit on behalf of Rochester-based radio host Bill Robinson seeking data on NY SAFE Act compliance: specifically, how many assault weapons had actually been registered in the state.

Cuomo administration officials first ignored, then denied Robinson’s Freedom of Information Act request. But, on June 22, following two years of litigation, state police released the information based on a court decision which found that while the law forbade the disclosure of the actual registration forms, nothing precluded the release of aggregate data.

That data shows massive noncompliance with the assault weapon registration requirement. Based on an estimate from the National Shooting Sports Federation, about 1 million firearms in New York State meet the law’s assault-weapon criteria, but just 44,000 have been registered. That’s a compliance rate of about 4 percent. Capanna said that the high rate of noncompliance with the law could only be interpreted as a large-scale civil disobedience, given the high level of interest and concern about the law on the part of gun owners.

“It’s not that they aren’t aware of the law,” said Capanna.

“The lack of registration is a massive act of civil disobedience by gun owners statewide.”

Opposition to the SAFE Act has been widespread across upstate New York, where 52 of the state’s 62 counties, including Ulster, have passed resolutions opposing the law. Upstate police agencies have also demonstrated a marked lack of enthusiasm for enforcing the ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines. According to statistics compiled by the state Department of Criminal Justice Services, there have been just 11 arrests for failure to register an otherwise-legal assault weapon since the SAFE Act took effect in March 2013 and 62 for possession of a large capacity magazine. In Ulster County, where 463 assault weapons have been registered, there have been just three arrests for possession of large-capacity magazines and none for failure to register an assault weapon. Ulster County Sheriff Paul VanBlarcum has been a vocal critic of the law; he said he believed large numbers of Ulster County gun owners had chosen to ignore the registration requirement.

“We’re a rural county with a lot of gun enthusiasts,” said VanBlarcum. “So [463] sounds like a very low number.”

VanBlarcum said he had advised deputies to use their discretion when it came to making arrests for SAFE Act violations like unregistered assault weapons and he had no plans to undertake proactive enforcement measures.

“We are not actively out looking to enforce any aspect of the SAFE Act,” said VanBlarcum.

Capanna said the registration debacle pointed to bigger issues with the SAFE Act: while federal firearms laws and the bureaucracy that enforces them date back a century, New York was effectively trying to create an entirely new regulatory framework from scratch. Capanna pointed to a SAFE Act requirement for background checks on ammunition sales as an example of regulatory overreach. The mandate has gone unenforced because the federal database used to screen gun buyers cannot be legally used for any other purpose. The state, meanwhile, has failed to come up with its own database to track ammunition sales............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 12:28pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 2:42pm

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Showdown Looms As Dem’s Gun Control Agenda Likely
To Meet Stiff Opposition From Nation’s Sheriffs Who Say
They Will Not Enforce Unconstitutional Laws!

American Sheriffs work for the American People who elected them, not for the Government.

These Law Enforcement Officers are not required to enforce laws that they believe are Unconstitutional. They have an obligation to the American People & the United States Constitution, where the American People direct them not to Infringe upon their Rights!

Source: Forbes
Quote:

President Biden’s remarks last week on the three-year anniversary of the Parkland, Florida, shooting that saw a gunman kill 17 students and wound another 17, was seen by gun rights advocates as the administration’s first salvo in what is expected to be a fierce and prolonged battle over Second Amendment rights in America. “I am calling on Congress to enact common sense gun law reforms,” said Biden, “including requiring background checks on all gun sales, banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and eliminating immunity for gun manufacturers who knowingly put weapons of war on our streets.”

“President Biden’s demand that Congress ban the modern sporting rifle (MSR), which he knowingly mislabels as an ‘assault rifle’ and ‘weapon of war,’ denies the reality that more murders are committed with knives, fists and clubs than all rifles combined,” responded the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the gun industry’s influential advocacy arm. “Over 20 million MSR’s are in circulation today, used daily for lawful purposes. And rolling back protections on lawful manufacturers of firearms would be akin to allowing activist lawyers to sue Ford for the wrongful deaths caused by drunk drivers.”

MSR’s are most commonly used for hunting, recreational target shooting and for personal protection. As a practical matter, these are semi-automatic firearms which means you must squeeze the trigger every time you want to fire a single round (the sale of fully automatic weapons was banned in 1986 as part of the Firearm Owners Protection Act). That functionality is no different than hundreds of other semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns used for everything from duck and dove to deer and boar hunting as well as target shooting and self-defense. Most U.S. soldiers, on the other hand, are issued fully automatic M4 Carbines capable of shooting 950 rounds per minute (press the trigger and the bullets keep flying), so while they may look like MSR’s, a military relegated to using semi-automatic rifles would be at a decided disadvantage in any modern warfare scenario.

Gun control rhetoric from Dems is nothing new, but by holding slim majorities in the House and Senate and with Biden in the White House, they’re feeling emboldened that now is the time to move on a wide variety of gun control measures that had heretofore been stymied by a gun-friendly Trump administration and Republican majorities in at least one of two legislative bodies.

Mostly missing in the national political debate over guns, however, is where law enforcement stands regarding their willingness to enforce proposed or newly enacted gun laws. As Colorado legislators discovered in 2019 and 2020 when ‘red flag’ legislation passed—designed to allow police to seize guns from people suspected of posing a significant danger to themselves or others—laws are meaningless without enforcement.........continued

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 4:14pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 6:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 4:14pm:

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Existing Gun Laws, already on the books for years, if enforced & prosecuted fully, have the best chance of making Americans safer:

* In America Murder is already illegal.

* In America attempting to murder is already illegal.

* In America a criminal felon possessing, attempting to purchase, or in any way owning a firearm is already illegal.

* In America it is already illegal for a person with a diagnosed violent form of mental illness to possess, attempt to purchase, or in any way own a firearm.

* In America shooting & killing people indiscriminately is already illegal.

* In America using firearms in any criminal manner is already illegal.

Who needs bans, or draconian restrictions on Law-Abiding gun owners who never use their firearms illegally?

The American People don't, & they will refuse & reject those knee jerk, unproven 'new laws', that infringe upon their Constitutional Rights, at every turn!!!

All we need to do is enforce & prosecute criminals with laws that ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.....And if anyone is found guilty of breaking those laws they ~~should~~ must be sent away to prison for a long, long time, without exception, without plea-bargaining, & without the possibility of parole !!!

Here's what Americans in New York State feel about New Gun Laws & Bans:

God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............God Bless America............God Bless the U.S. Constitution............God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............God Bless America............God Bless the U.S. Constitution............God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............God Bless America............God Bless the U.S. Constitution............God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 6:22pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 6:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

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As long as The Rights of Law-Abiding Americans are completely protected from being infringed upon, enforcing existing laws already on the books will suffice in keeping firearms out of the hands of criminals......criminals who have a track record of criminally using firearms.

No 'new' firearm laws are necessary or called for......Most all Americans accept the fact that there will always be a price for their Freedoms.....The Freedoms they cherish as much as life itself........

God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............God Bless America............God Bless the U.S. Constitution............God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............God Bless America............God Bless the U.S. Constitution............God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............God Bless America............God Bless the U.S. Constitution............God Bless America............God Bless the NRA............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 7:58pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 8:55pm

Please forgive, Brian Ross might be experiencing Menopause.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:25pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:33pm

I don't need to need one, if it is my choice to own whatever for my own reasons it isn't your right to deny it.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:33pm

Panther wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 8:55pm:

Please forgive, Brian Ross might be experiencing Menopause.

The pussy hat is soooo Bbwian.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 11:55pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:33pm:

I don't need to need one, if it is my choice to own whatever for my own reasons it isn't your right to deny it.

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 3:32pm

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American Nullification of any New Gun Laws
Won't be going away any time soon!
;)

[media width=790]https://youtu.be/Osbwd6d66wA[/media]

Nullification is an American Tradition!!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 5:01pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 6:57pm

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American Nullification of any New Gun Laws
Won't be going away any time soon!
;)

[media width=790]https://youtu.be/Osbwd6d66wA[/media]

Nullification is an American Tradition!!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:06pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:10pm

Missouri Now Refuses to Enforce Certain Federal Gun Laws

Missouri's Republican Gov. Mike Parson signed into law over the weekend the Second Amendment Preservation Act.

The law (Missouri House Bill 85) defines various federal laws that Missouri considers an inherent violation of its citizens' rights under the Second Amendment:

(1) Any tax, levy, fee, or stamp imposed on firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition not common to all other goods and services and that might reasonably be expected to create a chilling effect on the purchase or ownership of those items by law abiding citizens;
(2) Any registration or tracking of firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition;
(3) Any registration or tracking of the ownership of firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition;
(4) Any act forbidding the possession, ownership, use, or transfer of a firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition by law-abiding citizens; and

(5) Any act ordering the confiscation of firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition from law-abiding citizens.

Such laws, the new Missouri law insists, "shall be invalid to this state, shall not be recognized by this state, shall be specifically rejected by this state, and shall not be enforced by this state….No entity or person, including any public officer or employee of this state or any political subdivision of this state, shall have the authority to enforce or attempt to enforce any federal acts, laws, executive orders, administrative orders, rules, regulations,statutes, or ordinances infringing on the right to keep and bear arms."

Any "political subdivision or law enforcement agency that employs a law enforcement officer" who violates Missouri citizen's rights by enforcing laws like those listed above "shall be liable to the injured party in an action at law, [or] suit in equity…and subject to a civil penalty of fifty thousand dollars per occurrence. Any person injured under this section shall have standing to pursue an action for injunctive relief…."

https://reason.com/2021/06/17/missouri-now-refuses-to-enforce-certain-federal-gun-laws/

One of the unspoken rules of supervising people is to never order them to do anything they will refuse to do unless you are prepared for a confrontation. The Federal Government was originally subservient to the States and needs to be again. What works in over populated big cities doesn't work for the rest of us! These intrusions in our lives could result in the breakup of the country into smaller ones, both free and socialist. I wouldn't be surprised if the puppet biden tried to get the US to join the EU. They could call it something new and just continue to absorb Nations until they become the One World Government the Elites planned for.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:11pm

Federal law over-rules states laws, Mort. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Federal law over-rules states laws, Mort. ::) ::)

So far but they already ignore laws about certain drug use. It may be in their best interest not to confront States over this.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:57pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Federal law over-rules states laws, Mort. ::) ::)

So far but they already ignore laws about certain drug use. It may be in their best interest not to confront States over this.

Perhaps it's time for the Feds to clean up the States' statute book... ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 1:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:57pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Federal law over-rules states laws, Mort. ::) ::)

So far but they already ignore laws about certain drug use. It may be in their best interest not to confront States over this.

Perhaps it's time for the Feds to clean up the States' statute book... ::) ::)

It may work that way here in Australia, where the rule of Parliament reigns supreme, but it doesn't work that way in the United States Brian.....you need to know that. The US Federal Government cant just waltz right into the States & re-write their laws.....The 10th Amendment says so......No Brian, in the United States they must follow the US Constitution, & the decisions of the US Supreme Court.

Secondly, in rural America, most Law Enforcement Officials are elected directly by the people, not hired by the government, which means they don't work for a government, they work for the people who elected them. So, if Law Enforcement refuses to enforce Federal Laws, by doing so they effectively Nullify those laws........A law is only as good as to what ends to which it is enforced.....making nullification thru non-enforcement the rightful remedy to repressive, & unconstitutional gun laws.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:54pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:57pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Federal law over-rules states laws, Mort. ::) ::)

So far but they already ignore laws about certain drug use. It may be in their best interest not to confront States over this.

Perhaps it's time for the Feds to clean up the States' statute book... ::) ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdtLSCYE8_E

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 8:46am

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:57pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Federal law over-rules states laws, Mort. ::) ::)

So far but they already ignore laws about certain drug use. It may be in their best interest not to confront States over this.

Perhaps it's time for the Feds to clean up the States' statute book... ::) ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdtLSCYE8_E

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[media width=500]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_WlII81dsw[/media]
⮞⮞⮞ Start at 4:53 to skip the introductions...

SPOT ON!!! @Mort

Non-Enforcement, when a local government ignores Federal Law, or refuses to enforce, or assist the Feds in enforcement, is a perfect remedy to Nullify Federal Gun Laws that Infringe Upon Our Constitutional Right to Keep & Bear Arms.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 12:19pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 1:15pm

"As an FFL [Fed License], you can buy a brand new machine gun for less than $2,000 and have it transferred to you in a few days." At 500-1000 rounds p/m you have peace of mind against mortars, grenades and kamikaze pilots. Up-grades available when neighbours buy one also.

Muzzle-loading cannon Class B are freely on offer in Australia if used for the purpose of Target Shooting. Select a visible point at close range, wave a red flag and shout "fire" and touch the powder.
Choose from Belgian "Monster Mortar" (24 inches; 1832) or Mallet's Mortar (36 inches) from pre-1900 and so street legal.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 3:46pm

chimera wrote on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 1:15pm:

Err, bit big to keep in your coat pocket. Bit slow to reload. ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 4:45pm

No not in your pocket! Obviously it's loaded and aimed behind your front door for the perp. at 1am.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 5:13pm

chimera wrote on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 4:45pm:

No not in your pocket! Obviously it's loaded and aimed behind your front door for the perp. at 1am.

Assuming that they come in via the front door? Bit hard to use out on the street or away from home. ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 5:19pm

Look , if you're that worried, put it on caster wheels down the back with electric spark-ignition and movement sensor. Disconnect BEFORE you leave for work.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 6:12pm

chimera wrote on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

Look , if you're that worried, put it on caster wheels down the back with electric spark-ignition and movement sensor. Disconnect BEFORE you leave for work.

I'm not worried in the slightest. The Americans may be. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 6:17pm

No if it moves, shoot and more bang for your buck.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 8:33pm

chimera wrote on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 6:17pm:

No if it moves, shoot and more bang for your buck.

You'd need tremendously high ceilings and a powered traverse system. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 9:21pm

Block and tackle from a tree branch to load, then pack in wadding and lower to target. Training the muzzle-loader to the firing bearing is easily done.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-23/tch-on-the-turntable/5405810?nw=0

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 10:29pm

About as useless as the M16/AR-15... ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Bias_2012 on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 11:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Federal law over-rules states laws, Mort. ::) ::)

As long as it doesn't infringe on the 2nd Amendment, or any other clause in the Fed Constitution

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution of the United States (Article VI, Clause 2), establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the "supreme Law of the Land", and thus take priority over any conflicting state laws.[1] It provides that state courts are bound by, and state constitutions subordinate to, the supreme law.[2] However, federal statutes and treaties are supreme only if they do not contravene the Constitution.[3]

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 12:14am

Apparently you don't understand Nullification and didn't watch the video. The Feds are still free to come after any Citizen they choose. The difference is they will not have any cooperation from State and Local Authorities. If they want to scoop someone up and send them to a Federal facility no one will stop them. State and Local Authority do not report the the Federal Government because it has no power over them and many will be prosecuted if they assist!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 6:33am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 10:29pm:

useless ... ::) ::)

size matters

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 11:56am

chimera wrote on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 6:33am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2021 at 10:29pm:

useless ... ::) ::)

size matters

Only to those with a fascination with size... ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 12:15pm

..and with caliber of side-arms with fire-power.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 4:31pm

chimera wrote on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 12:15pm:

..and with caliber of side-arms with fire-power.

You know why the .45 calibre pistol was adopted after the American-Philippino war? 'Cause they reckoned they could kill a nationalist with a single shot. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 5:01pm

This American pistol killed the target, the shooter and 3 horses.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWeapons/comments/ha1sbm/ryszard_tobys_28mm_remington_1859_the_worlds/

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 10:25pm

There never was a Remington 1859, the proper year is 1858.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 8:07am

Great weapon. MAGA.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Bias_2012 on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 2:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm:

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

You've got a pisol haven't you?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 9:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm:

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Would you even know how to load one of them? The 1858, not the plastic ones favored on Sea Patrol.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:38pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm:

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Would you even know how to load one of them? The 1858, not the plastic ones favored on Sea Patrol.

Sounds like you have a personal problem there, Mort. Would you like me to call the Padre for you? ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 11:38pm

Top guns in GOP use elephant guns, a double barrel 84 caliber muzzleloader that shoots a 1600 grain bullet. Hot shots swing from both hips although it can take 6 seconds to raise and aim.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 11:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:38pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm:

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Would you even know how to load one of them? The 1858, not the plastic ones favored on Sea Patrol.

Sounds like you have a personal problem there, Mort. Would you like me to call the Padre for you? ::)

So tell us if you know how to use and maintain percussion revolvers!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 11:59pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 11:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:38pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm:

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Would you even know how to load one of them? The 1858, not the plastic ones favored on Sea Patrol.

Sounds like you have a personal problem there, Mort. Would you like me to call the Padre for you? ::)

So tell us if you know how to use and maintain percussion revolvers!

Why bother, Mort? Percussion revolvers are old hat. Me, I don't need a gun. I live in a (relative) safe country, mate. Not the Wild West... ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:02am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm:

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

;D ;D

The one-testicle lithpin' wanker swaggers.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:13am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 11:59pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 11:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:38pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 1:49pm:

Pisols are for wannabes. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Would you even know how to load one of them? The 1858, not the plastic ones favored on Sea Patrol.

Sounds like you have a personal problem there, Mort. Would you like me to call the Padre for you? ::)

So tell us if you know how to use and maintain percussion revolvers!

Why bother, Mort? Percussion revolvers are old hat. Me, I don't need a gun. I live in a (relative) safe country, mate. Not the Wild West... ::) ::)

What do you like to do with your spare time besides tell others what not to do? You seem to have the idea that firearms are only intended to cause harm to innocent people. We don't "need" to allow people to ride motorcycles or own light aircraft but it would be a duller world without them. The Nanny State is a dull place.

Why bother? It is history held in your hand. Why want to own a classic car or a sword? If all you can see is some evil destructive tool that is just your perception. If there were one gun I could find and afford it would be the Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver and it has nothing to do with shooting people!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:19am

If bikies and pilots each caused 10,000 deaths/year you would stop dullness and prove guns are for pursuit of happiness. Maybe liberty. Not life.

Then again, they could each kill the same as guns, 20,000 deaths/year. Cattle-drive cowboys declare that most shoot-outs are with cattle rustlers (and a few claim jumpers). But the others are innocent folks jest playin' cards and buying grits. The 60,000 fatalities may make the government back east decide to vaccinate all gunslingers and bandits. Pancuronium Bromide is AstraZeneca's terminal injection.

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Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm

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Post by chimera on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 2:05pm

Shame to do that to their elephant, thought they were protected.

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Post by Panther on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 5:15pm

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St. Louis couple touts new AR-15
After guns seized over BLM encounter.

Source: FOX NEWS
Quote:

Despite having their weapons seized and pleading guilty to charges in connection with pointing guns at Black Lives Matter rioters on their private property during the summer of 2020, Mark and Patricia McCloskey appeared defiant Saturday, posting a picture of a new AR-15 the St. Louis couple intends to buy.

"Checking out my new AR!" Mark McCloskey tweeted along with two pictures: one with McCloskey at a gun store with the owner, and another with him and his wife, Patricia. In both, he is holding an AR-15 rifle.

The picture came just two days after the McCloskeys pleaded guilty to lesser charges and agreed to pay fines in connection with last summer’s incident involving Black Lives Matter rioters who tore down an iron gate and ignored a "No Trespassing" sign on their private street. The couple said they felt threatened and armed themselves before heading outside to warn off the crowd.

The guns that the couple used in the standoff were seized after their initial arrests in 2020 and will be destroyed. But the McCloskeys are not prohibited from purchasing new firearms.

"We’re strong advocates of the Second Amendment and we’re going to continue to exercise our rights and protect ourselves," McCloskey told Fox News on Sunday. "We intend to keep our arms and bear them. We’re a constitutional carry state. I will replace those (guns) which the state took."

McCloskey said he has received "hundreds" of positive comments from the Twitter post. He expects his new rifle will be ready for him on Thursday.

McCloskey announced he will be running for the Senate in the next election, & based on his popularity for standing up to BLM & Antifa Rioters, he is a 'shoe-in' as the Republican Candidate.

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless The United States Constitution............

MISSOURI GOV, ATTORNEY FIRE BACK AT BIDEN DOJ OVER ‘FEDERAL OVERREACH’ ON 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS

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Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 5:24pm

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Post by Panther on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 5:50pm

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 6:13pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 12:04pm

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Sometimes the best way to nullify future Federal Gun Law is to pass State Law that effectively nullifies their pending ideas before they attempt to make them a wishful reality!

Kansas: Pro-Gun Laws Go into Effect Today!

Source: NRA-ILA
Quote:

Today, both Kansas and out-of-state law-abiding gun owners will be able to take advantage of pro-gun legislation that was passed into law during the Legislative Session, House Bill 2058.

Proposed by Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt, House Bill 2058 does the following:

◈ Recognizes all out-of-state concealed carry permits, and allows those who have been licensed to carry a firearm for self-defense, to do so lawfully in Kansas. This legislation recognizes that visitors to Kansas should not be left defenseless simply by crossing a state line.

◈ Allows individuals who are 18 to 20 years of age to apply for a Kansas concealed carry permit.

◈ Authorizes the Attorney General to issue an alternative license to carry a concealed handgun, to qualified applicants, during a declared state of disaster emergency.

◈ Creates a Restoration of Rights process for individuals to reestablish the Second Amendment right to possess a firearm, upon expungement of certain convictions.

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 1:05pm

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Post by Panther on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:13pm

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Young Guns - Teaching Kids To Shoot

Source: American Handgunner
Quote:

When I was growing up cartoons only came on TV on Saturday morning. There were no video games and fun was mostly found playing football, Cowboys & Indians or army. Everyone in my family was a hunter and guns were a part of our life and my childhood. I killed a lot of small game and a few deer before I ever kissed a girl. Times have indeed changed.

In most families both parents work. Many kids spend many hours a week at daycare. Evenings are cluttered with homework, television, sports and other extra curricular activities. Weekends are filled with soccer, football, baseball and similar pursuits. As parents make an effort to find a moment of sanity or catch up on chores, kids often end up watching episode after episode of Sponge Bob.

The vividly exciting and interactive video gaming opportunities, along with 327 channels, often make it difficult for parents to capture a kid’s imagination with a trip to the shooting range. In this electronic world, we can’t deprive the future generation’s exposure to these things and probably shouldn’t. But, there’s a way to get youngsters interested in the shooting sports. It just takes common sense and dedication.

Whether you are teaching your children, grandchildren or someone else’s children to shoot, having the right gun and the right attitude are what’s important........

.........If done intelligently, shooting and hunting are excellent activities to share with children. They will learn much more than just how to shoot or how to hunt. They will develop good self-esteem, coping skills, relationships, self-reliance and independence while experiencing healthy recreation and an overall philosophy of life and death. This will reduce their risk for delinquent behavior, substance abuse, depression, anxiety and even giving in to peer pressure.

Teaching your children the joys & responsibilities of shooting......few things in life are more satisfying than enjoying shooting together as a family, & watching your kids learn the same way you did, when you were their age, & how they will remember your words, as you can still hear them as when you were taught so many years ago, when they teach their kids!

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:40pm

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Post by Panther on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:53pm

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Young Guns - Teaching Kids To Shoot

Source: American Handgunner
Quote:

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 5:59pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm

Panther wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

......few things in life are more satisfying than enjoying shooting together as a family, ...

Wow.

That's pretty sad, dude.

Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 9:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

......few things in life are more satisfying than enjoying shooting together as a family, ...

Wow.

That's pretty sad, dude.

It'd be a happy thought....memory....for you Greg if you ever had a wonderful childhood like mine, with loving parents, & kids like mine, with parents that knew how to share their love, who taught them values rather than acquiesce to the demands of spoiled brats....

It's sad you obviously were denied that childhood, & life as a parent....now look at yourself in the mirror.....you see not a friend, but a grumpy old hateful bastard....one that hates the goodness & joy that others had, & the only thing you feel is the jealousy of your own wasted life.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 9:42am

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 9:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

......few things in life are more satisfying than enjoying shooting together as a family, ...

Wow.

That's pretty sad, dude.

"......few things in life are more satisfying than enjoying shooting together as a family, ..."

So incredibly sad :(

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Post by Panther on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 9:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 9:42am:

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 9:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

......few things in life are more satisfying than enjoying shooting together as a family, ...

Wow.

That's pretty sad, dude.

"......few things in life are more satisfying than enjoying shooting together as a family, ..."

So incredibly sad :(

Wallow in your own self pity & guilt if you must ole friend, while I bask in the delight of wonderful memories, & a joyful future.....enjoying the Freedom & Liberty given me through unselfish sacrifice, by those generations of Americans good enough to pass them down to me & mine..... https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 12:08pm

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Post by Panther on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 2:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

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The US Constitution's Second Amendment is LAW, OUR LAW, which only WE...the American People....can change, as opposed to your cute little pictures which affect nothing Bwian........frustrating to you innit........It's OUR LAW, not yours Bwian......The American Individual Right to Keep & Bear Arms (Our Right to own & use OUR Firearms Legally if we so choose).....& which OUR American government, which you Bwian have no say in, is forbidden to infringe upon.

The US Constitution is not an instrument for the US Government to restrain the American People, it is an instrument for the American People to restrain the US Government.

OUR RIGHT......Affirmed, Protected, & Defended by OUR U.S. Constitution:

https://imgur.com/ay4GYqv.gif

Now post all the silly little SPAM pictures, cartoons, & memes you please...... https://imgur.com/6jAsC9L.gif

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:22pm

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Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:22pm:

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So sad, but it's actually 100% true :(

Meanwhile:

More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend

"At least 233 people were killed and 618 people were injured by gun violence in more than 500 shootings across the country during the Fourth of July weekend".

Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend

"At least 233 people were killed and 618 people were injured by gun violence in more than 500 shootings across the country during the Fourth of July weekend".

Still, no reason whatsoever for the American People to even consider relinquishing their Constitutional Right to defend themselves, & their loved ones with the use of firearms if they so choose.

Americans are aware of the costs of Freedom & Liberty, & because some chose to break the law doesn't warrant all Law Abiding Citizens relinquishing the Right to self-defend as they presently do.....over 2 million times a year.....with their use of firearms as affirmed & defended by their Second Amendment to the United States Constitution......The People's Document.

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:10pm

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Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:16pm

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

I just pray you get the professional help you need before you hurt someone.

And I mean that sincerely.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:16pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

I just pray you get the professional help you need before you hurt someone.

And I mean that sincerely.

You're entitled to your own personal opinions, probably brought about solely because you feel the majority of Americans don't happen to agree with your ideas regarding our Right to Keep & Bear Arms.

Americans don't care how you come to your conclusions regarding firearms. In America we have the Right.....you don't.....Australians don't have any Right to self-defense affirmed in your Constitution. As Americans we have such a Right in ours. ;)

Most Americans believe as I do, & rightfully so, that we have the Right of self-defense guaranteed (but not granted) by their Second Amendment, to use firearms to defend & preserve life.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:51pm

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:16pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

I just pray you get the professional help you need before you hurt someone.

And I mean that sincerely.

You're entitled to your own personal opinions, ...

It's not an opinion - it's a concern for your welfare.

There's help out there.

Don't leave it until it's too late.

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 10:26pm

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Post by Mortdooley on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 10:26pm:

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I don't know why you love that picture since it is wrong. Firearms are more regulated than anything on your list. A Felon can do all those things including voting in some instances!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:51pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 7:16pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

I just pray you get the professional help you need before you hurt someone.

And I mean that sincerely.

You're entitled to your own personal opinions, ...

It's not an opinion - it's a concern for your welfare.

There's help out there.

Don't leave it until it's too late.

Of course it is just your opinion and no one cares what you think! You're just a brainless liberal it is fun to poke.

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:18pm

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Post by Mortdooley on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:18pm:

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It is just as well greggy can't own a firearm, some people are just too unstable to be trusted with responsibility!

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 12:16pm

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Post by Mortdooley on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 8:59pm

61% Of US Counties Now 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries!!!

As of June 20, there are 1,930 counties “protected by Second Amendment Sanctuary legislation at either the state or county level,” representing 61% of 3,141 counties and county equivalents in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

Texas was the 21st state to pass a constitutional carry bill, which Gov. Greg Abbott signed into law, and becomes effective Sept. 1. And while some state legislatures are not taking the same action, county officials have chosen to enact their own legislation. Roughly 1,137 counties “have taken it upon themselves to pass Second Amendment Sanctuary legislation and likely hundreds of cities, townships, boroughs, etc. have done so at their level as well,” the site states.

The Second Amendment sanctuary movement was born out of a grassroots effort, brought on by county or municipal leaders who vowed to not enforce any gun laws imposed by state or federal bodies they deemed were unconstitutional.

Sheriffs have also made pledges to uphold the Second Amendment, most recently every sheriff in Utah.

“Importantly, the Second Amendment of our divinely inspired Constitution clearly states … ‘the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed,’” a letter signed by all 29 Utah sheriffs states. “We hereby recognize a significant principle underlying the Second Amendment: the right to keep and bear arms is indispensable to the existence of a free people.”

Upon signing the new Texas law, Abbott said Texas was a Second Amendment Sanctuary state. Months earlier, Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts signed a proclamation giving Nebraska the same sanctuary designation. And Missouri Gov. Mike Parson signed a bill that nullifies federal gun laws in the Show Me state.

The movement is growing in light of statements made by President Joe Biden that the federal government will target firearms dealers in an attempt to link the increasing number of homicides occurring in major cities to a lack of gun law enforcement.

“We’ll find you and we will seek your license to sell guns,” Biden said last week.

Attorney General Merrick Garland also recently argued that while the majority of licensed firearms dealers sell to individuals who passed their FBI background check, that the same dealers “willfully violate the law increase the risk that guns will fall into the wrong hands.” He said the administration’s plan was part of a “concerted effort to crack down on gun traffickers.”

One such attempt is the ATF’s proposed new rule to regulate and tax a firearm brace widely used by veterans. The move has been criticized by members of Congress and by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who argues it’s unconstitutional.

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:09pm

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Post by Mortdooley on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:35am

At this point there are no sensible gun laws. Some States have finally decided to do something about violent crime, it is called "Bond Reform"!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 3:16pm

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Post by Mortdooley on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 9:30pm

One of the rules for supervising people is to not ask them to do something they will refuse unless you are looking for a confrontation. The democrats have asked to be confronted and we will accommodate them.

Our gun laws are not meant to save lives, they are written to control the honest citizenry. While biden talks big about gun control between naps and infusion treatments democrat mayors are having to face reality. Major crimes are committed by repeat offenders who are being released on no cash bail with multiple pending felonies. They can only parrot the liberal talking points so long before even the dumbest among them cry if only the law had kept that person in jail my friend or loved one would be alive today!!!

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 10:23pm

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Post by Panther on Jul 24^th, 2021 at 10:58am

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Missouri Senate Passes Gun Nullification Bill

Source: Kansas City Star
Quote:

Missouri Republicans moved a step closer in their attempt to nullify some federal gun laws Wednesday when the Senate passed legislation that would bar federal workers from some state careers for enforcing such policies.

The Senate voted 23-8 to send the bill back to the House, where it passed earlier. The House can either accept the Senate’s changes or negotiate a compromise version.

Senators voted for the bill along party lines with Republicans in support and Democrats in opposition. It would declare “null and void” any past, present or future federal law deemed to be an infringement on gun rights for law-abiding citizens.

Federal agents who knowingly enforce those laws could face civil penalties stemming from lawsuits filed by Missouri residents who think their gun rights were infringed. Those workers would also be banned from future careers in state or local enforcement.

“We want to cause a reason for law enforcement to have a healthy pause before they might infringe on the Second Amendment rights of Missouri citizens,” said Sen. Brian Nieves, R-Washington........continued

When the American People speak, government must listen......all power to legitimately govern in America is conditioned upon the continual consent of the American people....... ;)

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 24^th, 2021 at 10:21pm

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Post by Panther on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 9:35am

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 9:01pm

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Post by Mortdooley on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 10:38pm

We reject group guilt, the individual is responsible for their crimes. Not society as a whole, you are free to take one for the team. I recommend you read "Enemies Foreign and Domestic" by Matt Bracken!

https://enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 10:46pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 10:38pm:

Why should I bother? It sounds like a silly dystopian view of the world. Typical American bullshit. How about you come to the party with a compromise solution that satisfies everybody, Mort? Or is that too hard? ::) ::)

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Post by Mortdooley on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 10:58pm

Why, because it starts with a "Reichstag fire" type false flag event to crush freedom. Give it a try and tell me where it is wrong! It is better described as something similar to the fall of Iran then any preconceived idea you have of an end of the world scenario. Like 1984 is being used as an instruction manual this is how American can be lost!

Are you afraid to be exposed to the hopes and dreams of your Masters?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 11:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 10:46pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 10:38pm:

There is no compromise, if I have four children and you want to kill them all a compromise would be if I agree to let you just kill one or two. If you know how to use a calculator you should know that when you put in wrong numbers you never get the right answer! You are asking the wrong questions!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 2:01pm

You believe in "Freedom"(tm), Mort. Real freedom is to not need to own a gun to protect yourself. If you paid sufficient taxes and allowed your government(s) to spend that money and hire sufficient police officers you wouldn't be living in terror, hiding under your blankets, grasping your fetish objects to protect yourself. All that is needed is sufficient background checks and a limit on the number and type of firearms you can own, and you'd be a lot safer. Criminals could be and should be charged for possession and misuse of a firearm just as a non-criminal should be. No "plea deals". If you want the "Freedom"(tm) to own a firearm you must also accept the responsibility to own one. The means you need to be licensed and you need to demonstrate that you can safely use that firearm. It isn't rocket science. ::) ::)

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Post by Frank on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 2:06pm

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Post by Brian Ross on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 2:21pm

Funny, Australia isn't even mentioned but the US is. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 4:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 2:21pm:

Funny, Australia isn't even mentioned but the US is. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. ::) ::)

It's not a complete list of all countries, looney. Australia's number is where China or Italy are, around 1 per 100,000.

What isn't funny is that the worst places for gun crime are, and that are worse than the US are .... er.... black and latino (except Russia). Or that in the US itself the black and latino gun crime is way out of all proportion. Heavily tinted gangsters, as karnal puts it.

Oh dearie, dearie loon, eh?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 6:30pm

Frank wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 4:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 2:21pm:

Funny, Australia isn't even mentioned but the US is. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. ::) ::)

Oh dearie dearie me can the Gringo explain why Mexico has a much higher homicide rate despite having very strict gun laws.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 4:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 2:21pm:

Funny, Australia isn't even mentioned but the US is. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. ::) ::)

Oh dearie dearie me can the Gringo explain why Mexico has a much higher homicide rate despite having very strict gun laws.

And Some, I Assume, Are Good People.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 2:01pm:

You almost make it to the rational side of the argument, I highlighted the parts where you show promise. I don't need to prove anything to anyone and that includes the government We have something called "Due Process" and until an individual is denied certain rights by legal actions they are full citizens. When Civics was taught in our schools children were informed that our government is structured to serve the people, not rule over them! They were taught that the Rights of all individuals end where they interfere with the Rights of others. Not where they hurt the feelings of cry baby Karens!

Big government is not the answer, it is a large part of the problem. Government needs to be very limited because just like we see today this bunch in DC are there for themselves and not the American people! We all pay plenty in taxes, it isn't how much we are taxed as much as how poorly the government servants spend it. It is a legally proven fact that the Police have no duty to protect "individuals" so that puts that responsibility on the Citizen! I don't live in fear, I avoid places where bad things are more likely to happen and keep a firearm handy if it comes to me. I have no desire to harm anyone but if it comes to me I don't plan to cower and snivel!

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Post by philperth2010 on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:23pm

America needs more guns and less restrictions....Not enough innocent Americans are dying to warrant gun control....Your freedom is worth more than someone's life!!!

Quote:

Chicago violence: 12 dead, 70 shot amid bloody weekend

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-violence-10-dead-65-shot-bloody-weekend

Quote:

At Least 430 People Killed in 915 Shootings Across U.S. in Past Week

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/07/gun-violence-rising-united-states-archive.html

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:30pm

Government size has nothing to do with this argument, Mort. Your effort to bring it in, simply shows how desperate you are to obscure the reality of what has been proposed. Guns are dangerous tools. Users need to demonstrate that they have the ability and the maturity to own and use one. Under your present laws, everybody can claim a "right" and obscure the reality of what ownership means. Around the world, rights are privileges granted by government. Privileges which require a license to exercise it. Only in America is their no need for a license, no need to prove competency, no need to prove your maturity, no need to prove that you can use a firearm responsibly. All I have proposed is that you need to prove all those things to be granted a license to own and use a firearm. If you can, you can own a firearm. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Ayn Marx on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 7:31am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 6:30pm:

Oh dearie dearie me can the Gringo explain why Mexico has a much higher homicide rate despite having very strict gun laws.

A totally corrupt, easily bribed police force.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 10:16am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:30pm:

Government size has nothing to do with this argument, Mort. Your effort to bring it in, simply shows how desperate you are to obscure the reality of what has been proposed. Guns are dangerous tools. Users need to demonstrate that they have the ability and the maturity to own and use one. Under your present laws, everybody can claim a "right" and obscure the reality of what ownership means. Around the world, rights are privileges granted by government. Privileges which require a license to exercise it. Only in America is their no need for a license, no need to prove competency, no need to prove your maturity, no need to prove that you can use a firearm responsibly. ~~All I have proposed is that you need to prove all those things to be granted a license to own and use a firearm. If you can, you can own a firearm.~~

"Benefits & Privileges" are what ~~prisoners~~ captives are granted by their captors.....
Free Citizens have unalienable "RIGHTS",
affirmed, defended, & protected by their government!

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 2:07pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 10:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 2:07pm:

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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:30pm:

Government size has nothing to do with this argument, Mort. Your effort to bring it in, simply shows how desperate you are to obscure the reality of what has been proposed. Guns are dangerous tools. Users need to demonstrate that they have the ability and the maturity to own and use one. Under your present laws, everybody can claim a "right" and obscure the reality of what ownership means. Around the world, rights are privileges granted by government. Privileges which require a license to exercise it. Only in America is their no need for a license, no need to prove competency, no need to prove your maturity, no need to prove that you can use a firearm responsibly. ~~All I have proposed is that you need to prove all those things to be granted a license to own and use a firearm. If you can, you can own a firearm.~~

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 11:16pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 11:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:30pm:

You seem to confuse love of Country with love of Government, they are not the same entity! You must love Nanny, I find Nanny has its own agenda that isn't concerned with the independence of the individual our our safety. The common good isn't really about the common good, it is about accepting control over our lives for their benefit! We would have better representation in Congress if we just had a minimum credit score requirement! If you can't responsibly handle your own business you have no right in charge of the peoples money or making laws that restrict our lives!

Gun control isn't about crime control, it is about making honest citizens helpless in the face of danger. The "Defund the Police" movement is to blame for more crime than anything else. No cash bail is a strong follow-up. Democrats posting bail for others doesn't make anyone safer either.

As a Subject of a Nation that makes you get permission to own a $25 Red Rider BB gun it would be refreshing if you could come up with some new talking points.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 12:31am

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 11:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:30pm:

That is not what I am arguing and your continued efforts to obscure matters isn't helping this discussion go forward at all, Mort. I am an Australian. I have little time for your ideas about how my society operates. You are completely mistaken. Australians believe in co-operating with our Government that does mean we obey it at every twist or turn. We have little faith in what Governments do. However, we decided in 1996 that guns needed tighter control over their ownership and use. We have had many elections since and no one has proposed successfully to loosen those controls. They are not onerous. Your country could learn from them, you just need to understand that guns need greater control over their ownership and use. Even Switzerland has realised that slack laws lead to abuses.

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As a Subject of a Nation that makes you get permission to own a $25 Red Rider BB gun it would be refreshing if you could come up with some new talking points.

I am a citizen. Australians became citizens in 1950. We ceased to be "subjects" to anyone. Until you realise how foolish you are by claiming that, there will be no point in continuing this discussion, Mort. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 6:45pm

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Understanding how you perceive the World is fascinating and through you I try to understand how people can have loyalty to governments who have no loyalty to its people. You obey? Who works for who or more accurately who is supposed to work for who? A man wants to compete, he wants to win, he wants to explore, he wants to build, a man wants to be free. A woman wants everyone to play well with others and be safe, sounds boring and sounds kind of like your government. I know there are men in high levels of your government but is it a Matriarchy? Trust me, you will not shoot your eye out!

“The government is merely a servant – merely a temporary servant. It cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn’t. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.” – Mark Twain

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 11:10pm

No apology? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 1:03pm

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Arizona Law Bans State Enforcement of Federal Gun Control

Source: BamaCarry
Quote:

Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey signed a bill that bans state and local enforcement of federal gun control; past, present and future. The enactment of this law represents an important first step toward bringing those measures to an end within the state.

Rep. Leo Biasiucci (R) introduced House Bill 2111 (HB2111) along with 16 cosponsors on Jan. 24. The new law bans the state and all political subdivisions of the state from “using any personnel or financial resources to enforce, administer or cooperate with any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the United States government that is inconsistent with any law” of the state of Arizona regarding the regulation of firearms.

The ATF is incapable of enforcing Federal Gun Laws across the entire 50 States......Without State help to enforce those laws, it virtually nullifies the Laws themselves. Some States go so far as stating that they will arrest any Federal Agent who attempts to enforce Federal Gun Laws within it's borders..... https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 1:18pm

Any Arizonian who has less scalps on his belt than women he has laid is disloyal to American fire power. Any State that stays with the Fed is a heap of suckers, mummy boys and commies.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 1:55pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 4:22pm

The US government is not loyal to its citizens, police don't protect individuals and 30,000 fellow Americans need to be shot each year.
Maybe Mort needs another constitution, another population or just more guns. Seems that 1776 was a mistake. Queen Elizabeth is very understanding, she has some odd-ball sons and was nice to the Irish.
Give her a try, can't be worse than what you have now.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 8:55pm

chimera wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 4:22pm:

1776 got it right, the problem is how far the government has moved away from it in its love of power! The Subjects of Her Majesty are perpetual children and she is their mother, that isn't a system for Americans!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 11:10pm:

No apology? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Your system of government is just one really tyrannical administration from becoming Venezuela. It will take longer here but this bunch of domestic enemies are working on it! The Masks are off and I don't mean the plandemic ones, I mean the ones they hide their agenda behind. The things we are expected to believe and accept in a variety of areas is insane. Good luck to us all.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:11pm

"that isn't a system for Americans!"

Of course it is, they love royals and the First Lady is the copy. Kids gather around the throne in Oval Office or stand in obedience at Abe Lincoln on his throne. The deafening roar of gunfire across the battlefields of rusty dead revolutionary democracy shows the decay was inbuilt. The 2nd Amendment compels anarchy. It's easy to switch back to normalcy. You have nothing to lose but your gunshots.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:23pm

chimera wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:11pm:

You still think you can win at Three-card Monte as well apparently. Children need to be prevented from gathering around the throne of the Oval Office during this administration, Michael Jackson may be gone but Sniffy joe isn't!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 10:40pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 11:10pm:

No apology? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still no apology. Tsk, tsk. You have no idea about how Australian politics works, Mort. Quit while you're ahead. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 11:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 10:40pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 11:10pm:

No apology? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still no apology. Tsk, tsk. You have no idea about how Australian politics works, Mort. Quit while you're ahead. ::) ::)

Of course I understand your system, it is child-parent. Cradle to grave security.

Why would I need to apologize for your governments control over your population? If it makes you feel safe it is not something I will spend time worrying about. What works for you doesn't work for everyone. You have strong opinions about my Country so it is only fair I have strong opinions about yours!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 6:33am

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

Your system of government is just one really tyrannical administration from becoming Venezuela.

Do you mean the gun violence or cradle-to-grave?

"In Venezuela the health system is collapsing. Hospitals have closed or are operating at a fraction of their capacity, many without regular access to electricity or water. Vaccine-preventable diseases such as measles and diphtheria have already returned long before the epidemic hit.

Government actions that have contributed to Venezuela’s collapsing health care system not only violate Venezuelans’ right to health, but they are now a threat to global health. The Venezuelan doctors and nurses we have interviewed over the past few months say that soap and disinfectants are virtually nonexistent in their clinics and hospitals. Patients and personnel are required to bring their own water for drinking and sometimes for flushing toilets. There is no capacity for complex care due to a lack of basic X-rays, laboratory tests, intensive care beds, and respirators. Under such circumstances, it may be best for sick people to avoid hospitals altogether."

The guns are to protect free citizens against covid.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:04pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 11:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 10:40pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 11:10pm:

No apology? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still no apology. Tsk, tsk. You have no idea about how Australian politics works, Mort. Quit while you're ahead. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 11:36pm

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Still no apology. Tsk, tsk. You have no idea about how Australian politics works,

I see no reason to offer an apology, how does my opinion offend you?

I have a very good idea of how your politics work, your liberals like our democrats have a firm hold on your system. As long as you obey you can have a good life, just like with trained dogs you just have to know your place! Your fellow countrymen may have ideas about taking control of their lives but that is counter to the system of subservience. It really plays out like a matriarchy, play nice and respect all the weirdos and mentally ill who deny what nature made them! Because I went through therapy dog training with my dog I see parallels between that training and how our Democrats expect us to submit to them! Now I see the parallels in your society as well. We can all learn a lot by taking obedience training with our dogs! Many of the lessons should be used to raise children, our children shouldn't be the ones in charge!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Raven on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 1:33am

So Raven sees a child attacking another child with a stick.

What does he do?

Does he act like a responsible adult and take the stick away from the child or does he give the other child a stick so they can get their own back?

This is how the world see's the USA. A petulant child bullying your leaders because you like to play with guns.

Don't get Raven wrong. He doesn't think that guns are bad. Raven grew up hunting for food and guns made it easier to do that.

But America's bulls.hit arguments about guns and freedom is just laughable. How does the ability to buy a gun that fire's a gazillion rounds a minute make you more free than countries like the UK or Australia that banned those weapons?

The second amendment says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Where do you draw the line?

Raven wants to own a nuclear tipped ballistic missile. Why can't he? Isn't it his second amendment right as a member of a "well regulated" militia necessary to have one to ensure the security of a free State?

How does gun control restrict your freedom? If you can show you have cause to own a gun then you can.

That's what freedom is. "I deserve this because I earned it." Freedom is not "I deserve this because some old dudes said I can have it."

There is no such thing as true freedom, society would collapse. Humanity has engineered a form of freedom where those that earn that form of freedom are considered free.

The Founding Fathers wrote this document when everyone had muskets. Now you can buy an AR-15S. Did they have this in mind when they added the Bill of Rights? Of course not. Would they have wanted to see a weapon like that in the hands of the general population? Unlikely.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 2:35am

Try reading the federalist papers, the citizens have the right to have weapons comparable to the military.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:56am

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 11:36pm:

As long as you obey you can have a good life, just like with trained dogs you just have to know your place! !

How many liberals have your local militia shot, Mort? You do support the 2nd Amendment and freedom
- or do you?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:57am

Raven wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 1:33am:

The Founding Fathers wrote this document when everyone had muskets. Now you can buy an AR-15S. Did they have this in mind when they added the Bill of Rights? Of course not. Would they have wanted to see a weapon like that in the hands of the general population? Unlikely.

Please........do tell us all Raven, how many Founding Fathers you located on your trip to America, how many you dug up, & got their first hand testimony on "What they meant.....had in mind...etc....etc....." when they wrote the Second Amendment to OUR United States Constitution.....Please provide us with their written, or recorded verbal statements.....

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 2:35am:

Try reading the federalist papers, the citizens have the right to have weapons comparable to the military.

SPOT ON!!! @Mortdooley

Visually similar to our AR-15s, but far more deadly than the AR-15!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 10:06am

Panther wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:57am:

got their first hand testimony on "What they meant.....had in mind...

There are written comments from the Founding Fathers on their intentions. They wanted states rights against the Fed. How many bullets have been fired at Congress since it was stolen by the fakes on January 20?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 10:16am

chimera wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 10:06am:

Panther wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:57am:

got their first hand testimony on "What they meant.....had in mind...

There are written comments from the Founding Fathers on their intentions........

Please provide your documentation/references/links.......on how they wanted us to only rely on muskets for all time to defend ourselves against a, for example, a tyrannical government......

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 10:54am

My comment is not about citizens having nukes. It's about why you fail to shoot up Congress.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 3:47pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 6:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 3:47pm:

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OUR GUN LAWS Bwian???......
OUR GUN LAWS LAWS SHOULD BE CHANGED you say???....... https://imgur.com/p4tGdTp.gif

When us Americans are talking about OUR American Gun Laws.....WE can use the term OUR.....

Bwian, you are totally immaterial to OUR American Legal System.....

Us Law-Abiding Gun-Owning Americans own & use over 20 million AR-15s for Self-Defense & pleasure shooting, target practice, etc.....

The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in America, & we intend on keeping them for all legitimate uses, which first & foremost, we keep them to be used for self-defense, besides good ole fun target shooting out behind the house (thousands upon thousands of us Americans have our own shooting ranges on our own properties.....I do, & my kids use it often keeping my guns in order & for fun & shooting practice.....)

Brian Ross

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 6:50pm

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, Panther belongs to his state militia. All the 400 million arms and weapons are used for the militia which meets on Tuesday night at 7.30pm sharp.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:07pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 3:47pm:

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Your argument is as false as the ignition system of the muzzle loader in your picture. During the Revolutionary war both sides were equipped with comparable firearms. Actually I believe the Colonists were better equipped and used rifled barrels while the British relied on volley shots from smooth bore muskets. That being the case Americans have the Right to own firearms comparable to our military!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:47pm

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 3:47pm:

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 10:19pm

There are no sensible gun laws anymore, just an opportunity to show who is boss! The sheep spends his whole life worried about the wolf but is lead to his death by the Shepard!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2021 at 11:20pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 3:37pm

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 8:35pm

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Title: ⮞ Americans Nullify US Gun Law ⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 9:26am

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OLE CRUNTT THAT ROSS!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Jim Lahey on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 11:20am

Hi Panther.

Do you enjoy school shootings?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 11:39am

Jim Lahey wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 11:20am:

Hi Panther.

Do you enjoy school shootings?

Hi Pecca......

Are you obsessively fascinated with child rape? ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 1:00pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 5:45pm

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Benton County becomes 23rd County to Approve
Second Amendment Sanctuary Resolution

Source: CBS
Quote:

VINTON, Iowa — The Benton County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday in favor of a resolution declaring the county a Second Amendment Sanctuary.

This resolution prevents law enforcement from enforcing state or federal gun laws that appear to violate the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

The Iowa Firearms Coalition sent the following statement following Tuesday’s vote:

"We are excited to see yet another county has sent a message to Washington, D.C. that Iowans are fed up with attacks against the Second Amendment," said Dave Funk, IFC President. "The Benton County Board of Supervisors showed great courage with today's vote and we look forward to when the Governor's office and state legislators take the steps needed to make all of Iowa a Second Amendment Sanctuary."

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless The United States Constitution............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:13pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 9:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

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The fascist governments are here and you live in one of them. You are too afraid of your neighbors and not afraid enough of your government.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 10:50am

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

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The fascist governments are here and you live in one of them. You are too afraid of your neighbors and not afraid enough of your government.

Australia's government is of the people by the people. Unlike yours, Mort. ::) ::)

Title: Americans will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Laws
Post by Panther on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:01am

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

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The fascist governments are here and you live in one of them. You are too afraid of your neighbors and not afraid enough of your government.

@Mortdooley

Mort......Australia isn't a Fascist Country, & in a perfect world it never will be, but it can easily turn in that direction without the People of Australia having much chance to check Governmental Power outside of their votes. Unfortunately for the people here, the Government in power decides when elections are to take place, & the people are helpless but to follow.

Whereas, Americans have the power to stand up to, & as a last resort, forcefully remove any government infringing upon the People's Constitutional Rights guaranteed & protected by the US Constitution.

January 6th was a tame, pinkeys out, prim & proper, 'garden party' compared to the might of the American People actually banded together, standing fully armed, & many millions strong (many more that Australia's entire population), for their Rights all across America!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:45am

Well .... marriage kills more people annually than guns do.... just saying...

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:49am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 10:50am:

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

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The fascist governments are here and you live in one of them. You are too afraid of your neighbors and not afraid enough of your government.

Australia's government is of the people by the people. Unlike yours, Mort. ::) ::)

... but not for the people.... amen ... that the light of freedom shall not pass from this humbled earth... it is for some mythical self-appointed elite, whether they be the rich or petty ideologues or those 'educated' in a failing system that has betrayed itself to cater to fantasies or simply people who continue to suffer from delusions of 'class' in an allegedly classless society.

Every second rate moron feels the right to be superior to others... the only hope lies with the proles...

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:59am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:45am:

Well .... marriage kills more people annually than guns do.... just saying...

Medical Malpractice caused American deaths far, far exceeds firearm homicide deaths......matter-in-factly......there are many other events that cause more American deaths than firearms do......

See:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

Title: Re: Americans will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Laws
Post by Mortdooley on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:43pm

Panther wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:01am:

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

::) ::)

The fascist governments are here and you live in one of them. You are too afraid of your neighbors and not afraid enough of your government.

I guess we will have to disagree on that point. A Nation that pepper sprays and shoots peaceful protesters with rubber bullets isn't a free or tolerant Country. A Nation that makes self defense a crime to be investigated isn't free. It makes the choices of the individual limited to what is the better course of action. The immediate threat or the government judging you after the attack?

Title: Re: Americans will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Laws
Post by Panther on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 7:51am

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:43pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 11:01am:

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

::) ::)

The fascist governments are here and you live in one of them. You are too afraid of your neighbors and not afraid enough of your government.

Self-Defense is a human being's most valuable Right, given to ALL far before governments were ever instituted.....

Point taken......

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:56am

Australia is ruled by the people for the people. we do not rely on the constitution to dictate when elections can be held. We rely on the circumstance to dictate when and if an election should be called. We do not allow the constitution to dictate when individuals can stand for an election. We allow individuals to defend themselves it necessary. We rely on the government to provide a police force to defend the people. We are not a Wild West society. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 3:56pm

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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:56am:

@Brian Ross

Australia is ruled by the people for the people.

So, please explain the process of how you personally interact with, & order your 'people' about, between elections to ensure all your needs are being met as you ruled they be responded to.

we do not rely on the constitution to dictate when elections can be held. We rely on the circumstance to dictate when and if an election should be called.

So, say the government ever got out of control, & became tyrannical, & because only a vote of the people can ~~dethrone~~ remove them, please tell me how the circumstances, & not the people, or the offending ruling government, is going to cause the government to call elections & remove themselves from ruling roughshod over you the People if they don't agree to call elections?....How can you force them without elections?......

We do not allow the constitution to dictate when individuals can stand for an election.

So, individuals can stand for election anytime they wish, they don't need an election to be called????

We allow individuals to defend themselves it <if> necessary.

But why then are there no weapons permitted by law to be used in self-defense, & if a citizen uses a 'weapon' for such use he/she must defend such use to the governments satisfaction??

We rely on the government to provide a police force to defend the people. We are not a Wild West society.

We all know that even under the very best of conditions, when vital seconds count, the police are always minutes away (response times vary), arriving just in time to take your statement (if you are able to respond), after the crime(s) have already been committed.....unless you are wealthy enough to have your own body-guard, or personal policeman 24/7 ......

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 9:09pm

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: ⮞ Americans will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Law
Post by Panther on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 11:00am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 9:09pm:

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Probably not too unlike ±60% of all Australians who don't completely understand either. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Nevertheless, your explanations (actually the lack of them) clears all that up......you're clueless about how the Australian society operates!!! ..... Your non-response is proof positive of that!!! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 1:59pm

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 3:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 1:59pm:

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 4:01pm

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 12^th, 2021 at 8:33am

Panther wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 3:56pm:

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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:56am:

Still can't find the words......lil limp wristed Bwian... tsk...tsk https://imgur.com/1cC180U.gif ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 12^th, 2021 at 4:37pm

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: ⮞Americans Will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Laws⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 13^th, 2021 at 5:44pm

Showdown Looms As Dem’s Gun Control Agenda Likely To Meet Stiff Opposition From Nation’s Sheriffs Who Say They Will Not Enforce Unconstitutional Laws

Source: FORBES
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......Gun control rhetoric from Dems is nothing new, but by holding slim majorities in the House and Senate and with Biden in the White House, they’re feeling emboldened that now is the time to move on a wide variety of gun control measures that had heretofore been stymied by a gun-friendly Trump administration and Republican majorities in at least one of two legislative bodies.

Mostly missing in the national political debate over guns, however, is where law enforcement stands regarding their willingness to enforce proposed or newly enacted gun laws. As Colorado legislators discovered in 2019 and 2020 when ‘red flag’ legislation passed—designed to allow police to seize guns from people suspected of posing a significant danger to themselves or others—laws are meaningless without enforcement.

Dozens of the state’s 64 sheriffs publicly proclaimed the bill unconstitutional & refused to enforce the new law, with roughly half of the state’s county governments passing resolutions stating that they do not support enforcing such laws or will not, “infringe on the right of the people to keep & bear arms,” as one county board phrased it.

Sheriff Steve Reams of Colorado’s rural Weld County became one of the leading voices opposing the legislation and he made the rounds on the national news talk-show circuit to share his sentiments. “If a judge issues an order saying a person can’t possess weapons, & also compels law enforcement to perform a search warrant to seek out those guns,” said Reams, “I believe that’s a violation of a person’s constitutional rights. I have a hard choice at that point. I can potentially violate someone’s constitutional rights. Or I can violate a court order. I would rather be on the side of violating a court order than someone’s rights.”

At the center of gun rights advocate’s concerns regarding red flag laws is the lack of meaningful due process. “What if a disgruntled ex-lover has a vendetta against their former significant other & wants to use these laws as retaliation?” asks George Brauchler, former District Attorney for Colorado’s Douglas, Arapahoe, Elbert and Lincoln counties, who narrowly lost a bid to become the state’s Attorney General and who has prosecuted some of the nation’s most notorious mass shootings, including the Columbine High School & Aurora Theater massacres. “We expect our justice system to make an abuse of our laws nearly impossible to achieve. Many of these red flag laws do not. A person unfairly targeted by someone using a red flag law isn’t given a fair chance to defend themselves in the court of law before a judge can call for the confiscation of their firearms. There is more due process protecting your privilege to drive than your right to bear arms.”

While 19 states—mostly Democrat controlled— and the District of Columbia have some form of red-flag laws on the books, there are more than 400 sheriffs across the country who consider themselves part of a group labelled the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, a group representing thousands of deputies nationwide. Many of them have gone on-record saying that they will not enforce laws that they view as unconstitutional.

Larimer County Colorado sheriff Justin Smith is one of them. Smith didn’t hesitate to share his views on his Facebook page in an article he titled, “Preserving our Constitutional Republic.” In it he wrote, “…the Sheriff’s duties include the absolute obligation to protect the rights of the citizens of the county, and the Sheriff is accountable directly to those citizens. The Colorado Sheriff occupies this independent office which is not a subservient department of the county, state or federal government….I will not enforce unconstitutional federal laws, obey unconstitutional laws or allow others to violate the constitutional rights of those in my county.”

As the gun control debate heats up, one thing is clear: Americans are exercising their right to keep and bear arms at unprecedented levels. While 2019 was seen as an extraordinary year for gun sales with more than 28 million FBI National Instant Criminal Background Checks (required to purchase a new firearm and a good barometer of overall gun sales), 2020 saw an incredible nearly 40 million NICS checks. According to the NSSF, there are now more than 150 million gun owners in America with nearly 450 million firearms in circulation.

“As elected officials and law enforcement officers,” says Larry Keane, counsel for the NSSF, “Sheriffs take an oath to defend the constitution. That oath extends to the Second Amendment which the Supreme Court held applies to the States and local government. Sheriffs have a legal obligation not to enforce laws that blatantly violate the Second Amendment.”.........

Bluntly, America's Sheriffs, who work DIRECTLY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, not the government, are on record......If any government passes a law that they consider unconstitutional, they wont enforce them.....period

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 13^th, 2021 at 9:02pm

::) ::)

Title: ⮞Americans Will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Law⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 11:38am

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[media width=700]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxLhXW479nc[/media]

New Missouri State Law Effectively Ends
Local Enforcement of Federal Gun Laws

Source: CBS 60 MINUTES
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A new and potentially precedent-setting state gun law passed in the spring in Missouri. It's called the Second Amendment Preservation Act, or SAPA for short. It prohibits state agencies from helping the federal government enforce any law, rule or regulation which Missouri considers an infringement on the right to bear arms. Each violation can carry a $50,000 penalty.........

Now, it looks like 28 other States are considering passing their own Second Amendment Preservation Act legislation, basically saying to the Feds, you can not infringe on our Citizens Rights in our State, & if you try to enforce your Unconstitutional Laws here, we not only won't help you, we will fine anyone who attempts to enforce these laws within our State $50,000 for attempting to infringe upon our Citizen's Second Amendment Rights!

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless The United States Constitution............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 4:32pm

::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞Americans Will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Laws⮜
Post by Panther on Nov 19^th, 2021 at 8:06am

America’s Sheriffs Say They Will Not Enforce Unconstitutional Gun Laws

Bluntly, America's Sheriffs, who work DIRECTLY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, not the government, are on record......If any government....Federal, State, or Local.....passes a law that they consider unconstitutional, they wont enforce those laws, or aid in enforcing those laws.....period

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 19^th, 2021 at 10:08pm

::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Valkie on Nov 20^th, 2021 at 11:30am

Funny how grubberments manipulate people for their own agenda.

How howard the coward manipulated the people to throw away their rights so he woukd be able to implement some of the most draconian policies ever imposed, and he feared an uprising......as he should have.

Let's look at history.
Hitler imposed a civilian weapons ban before he took over.
Knowing that if the people were armed, he could never seize and hold power.

The same this has been tried and achieved in several countries, but smart people opposed ensured that laws and rights were set in stone so that evil men could and woukd be stood up to when required.

Evil does not take over through force.
It is sneaky, underhanded.
For evil to succeed, does not require evil to be powerful
It only requires good people to become complacent and allow evil reign.

The Australian grubberment is evil in many ways
Corruption is so common now, we are no longer outraged when discovered.
Evil men and women manipulate the laws to allow evil corporations to function without opposition.
Don't believe me?
The products you purchase from overseas are made with the blood, sweat and tears of children as cheap labour, unopposed by our grubberment as they profit from in through bribes and funding.

And it refuses to allow us the right to an honest, clear "Bill of rights".
One which cannot be manipulated, twisted and ignored as they do now.

Finland, Sweden have laws requiring all able bodied people to own, maintain and train with guns.
They rarely have any gun related problems, because their grubberment is trusted by the people.

Our grubberment fears us enough to ban weapons.
We have the most draconian weapon laws of any country other than China and Korea.
And look how their grubberment treat them.
And that fear of us is justified.
If our grubberment continue to screw us more and more.
And to expect to get away with the corruption and greed as they do now.
Even draconian gun laws will not help them.

I just hope I live to see our grubberment brought before the people to answer for their crimes against us.

Title: ⮞⮞ Americans Will Nullify US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 8:39am

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Biden DOJ Sues Missouri on Gun Rights Law

The Show Me State isn’t inclined to let the federal government encroach upon its citizens’ right to keep and bear arms.

Source: THE PATRIOT POST
Quote:

We’re not sure what prompted Joe Biden’s Justice Department to file suit against the state of Missouri, but perhaps those uppity McCloskeys are still living rent-free in their gun-grabbing heads.

The McCloskeys, you’ll recall, are the St. Louis couple who in June 2020, in the wake of the George Floyd riots, stood outside their own residence holding firearms to deter a Black Lives Matter mob that was trespassing in their gated neighborhood and verbally threatening them and their home. The fact that the McCloskeys never did prison time for the crime of having used the Second Amendment’s right to keep and bear arms to defend themselves must still stick in this administration’s craw.

In any case, we can be outraged at the lawsuit filed by the DOJ last week, but we shouldn’t be surprised. Attorney General Merrick Garland is seeking to undo a Missouri law, signed in June 2021 by Missouri Republican Governor Mike Parson, which protects the Second Amendment rights of state residents against federal gun control policies that might encroach upon those rights. As Blaze Media notes:

[quote] The law, according to Parson, drew “a line in the sand” and declared the state was committed to rejecting “any attempt by the federal government to circumvent the fundamental right Missourians have to keep and bear arms to protect themselves and their property.”

The law prohibited state and local cooperation with federal officials who attempt to enforce laws, rules, orders, or actions that violate the fundamental Second Amendment rights of state residents and made any person or entity who knowingly deprived Missouri citizens of their right to bear arms liable for redress and monetary damages of $50,000.

Examples of possible federal encroachment here might include assessing gun taxes, unlawfully confiscating guns, and unlawfully tracking or requiring registration of firearms and ammunition.

AG Garland clearly takes issue with the Missouri law. “This act impedes criminal law enforcement operations in Missouri,” he said in a statement. “The United States will work to ensure that our state and local law enforcement partners are not penalized for doing their jobs to keep our communities safe.”

What we have, then, is a case that revolves around federalism, a case of states’ rights butting up against the predatory nature of an anti-gun federal government. All Missouri is saying is that if a federal gun law runs up against the clear language of the Second Amendment, Missouri authorities don’t have to enforce it, and its citizens can challenge it.

In a way, Missouri is thus giving the Biden administration a taste of its own “sanctuary city” medicine. For years now, leftist enclaves have refused to do their part in enforcing our nation’s immigration laws, and the Biden administration has willfully abetted them in this abdication. Here, though, Missouri is preemptively refusing to help the federal government should it choose to unlawfully encroach upon its citizens’ Second Amendment rights.

Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt is clearly looking forward to a fight. “Time and again,” he said, “the Biden administration has put partisan politics ahead of public safety. Make no mistake, the law is on our side in this case, and I intend to beat the Biden administration in court once again.”
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Welcome aboard Missouri......

Thanks for joining the many States & Hundreds of Counties....along with the many Thousands of Sheriffs all across America, that are on record that they will absolutely refuse to enforce Unconstitutional Gun Laws, be they Federal, State, or Local!!!

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Americans Will Nullify US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 11:01am

Panther wrote on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 8:39am:

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Source: THE PATRIOT POST
Quote:

We’re not sure what prompted Joe Biden’s Justice Department to file suit against the state of Missouri, but perhaps those uppity McCloskeys are still living rent-free in their gun-grabbing heads.

The McCloskeys, you’ll recall, are the St. Louis couple who in June 2020, in the wake of the George Floyd riots, stood outside their own residence holding firearms to deter a Black Lives Matter mob that was trespassing in their gated neighborhood and verbght to keep and bear arms to defend themselves must still stick in this administration’s craw.

In any case, we can be outraged at the lawsuit filed by the DOJ last week, but we shouldn’t be surprised. Attorney General Merrick Garland is seeking to undo a Missouri law, signed in June 2021 by Missouri Republican Governor Mike Parson, which protects the Second Amendment rights of state residents against federal gun control policies that might encroach upon those rights. As Blaze Media notes:

[quote] The law, according to Parson, drew “a line in the sand” and declared the state was committed to rejecting “any attempt by the federal government to circumvent the fundamental right Missourians have to keep and bear arms to protect themselves and their property.”

The law prohibited state and local cooperation with federal officials who attempt to enforce laws, rules, orders, or actions that violate the fundamental Second Amendment rights of state residents and made any person or entity who knowingly deprived Missouri citizens of their right to bear arms liable for redress and monetary damages of $50,000.

Welcome aboard Missouri......

Thanks for joining the many States & Hundreds of Counties....along with the many Thousands of Sheriffs all across America, that are on record that they will absolutely refuse to enforce Unconstitutional Gun Laws, be they Federal, State, or Local!!!

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............

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Quote:

AG Garland clearly takes issue with the Missouri law. “This act impedes criminal law enforcement operations in Missouri,” he said in a statement.

About the only part that makes any sense.

Quote:

Examples of possible federal encroachment here might include assessing gun taxes, unlawfully tracking or requiring registration of firearms and ammunition.

Registration and taxation are not in breach of the second amendment. You can keep and bare arms that are registered and taxed just fine.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 11:03am

Quote:

The McCloskeys, you’ll recall, are the St. Louis couple who in June 2020, in the wake of the George Floyd riots, stood outside their own residence holding firearms to deter a Black Lives Matter mob

People were walking past their home in the street. These people are insane. They should not be allowed to have guns for this reason if no other.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 4:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 11:03am:

Quote:

The McCloskeys, you’ll recall, are the St. Louis couple who in June 2020, in the wake of the George Floyd riots, stood outside their own residence holding firearms to deter a Black Lives Matter mob

People were walking past their home in the street. These people are insane. They should not be allowed to have guns for this reason if no other.

They were both pardoned by the Governor, & they both say privately they couldn't care if their ± $3,000 combined fines plus court costs were reimbursed, or if they get their guns back, but they are suing the State for both on principal......

The McCloskey's combined wealth exceeds $50 Million Dollars, & unless the State wants to play games, they say they will make sure the State pays far in excess of the cost of both gun replacement, & reimbursement of their fines & court costs, plus all the courts lost time & efforts, which are not billable back to the McCloskeys win or lose. As far as firearm replacement goes, it's been reported the the couple have received dozens of offers for free firearm replacement, but to date both have no comment if their firearms have been replaced, but sources have said being that Missouri is a Constitutional Carry State (permit-less carry....no permits or licenses necessary from the State) it is a sure bet that they both have & then some..... ;D ;D ;D https://imgur.com/3m8TicF.gif https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 4:48pm

Panther wrote on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 4:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 11:03am:

Quote:

The McCloskeys, you’ll recall, are the St. Louis couple who in June 2020, in the wake of the George Floyd riots, stood outside their own residence holding firearms to deter a Black Lives Matter mob

People were walking past their home in the street. These people are insane. They should not be allowed to have guns for this reason if no other.

They were both pardoned by the Governor, & they both say privately they couldn't care if their ± $3,000 combined fines plus court costs were reimbursed, or if they get their guns back, but they are suing the State for both on principal......

The McCloskeys combined wealth exceeds $50 Million Dollars, & unless the State wants to play games, they say they will make sure the State pays far in excess of the cost of both gun replacement, & reimbursement of their fines & court costs, plus all the courts lost time & efforts, which are not billable back to the McCloskeys win or lose. As far as firearm replacement goes, it's been reported the the couple have received dozens of offers for free firearm replacement, but to date both have no comment if their firearms have been replaced, but sources have said being that Missouri is a Constitutional Carry State (permit-less carry....no permits or licenses necessary from the State) it is a sure bet that they both have & then some..... ;D ;D ;D https://imgur.com/3m8TicF.gif https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

Quote:

They were both pardoned by the Governor

Insane isn't it. Governor and all.

At least they have acknowledged their guilt.

Watch how many times she points her gun at her husband.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/03/mccloskey-pardon/

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 5:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 4:48pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 4:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 11:03am:

Quote:

The McCloskeys, you’ll recall, are the St. Louis couple who in June 2020, in the wake of the George Floyd riots, stood outside their own residence holding firearms to deter a Black Lives Matter mob

People were walking past their home in the street. These people are insane. They should not be allowed to have guns for this reason if no other.

They were both pardoned by the Governor, & they both say privately they couldn't care if their ± $3,000 combined fines plus court costs were reimbursed, or if they get their guns back, but they are suing the State for both on principal......

The McCloskeys combined wealth exceeds $50 Million Dollars, & unless the State wants to play games, they say they will make sure the State pays far in excess of the cost of both gun replacement, & reimbursement of their fines & court costs, plus all the courts lost time & efforts, which are not billable back to the McCloskeys win or lose. As far as firearm replacement goes, it's been reported the the couple have received dozens of offers for free firearm replacement, but to date both have no comment if their firearms have been replaced, but sources have said being that Missouri is a Constitutional Carry State (permit-less carry....no permits or licenses necessary from the State) it is a sure bet that they both have & then some..... ;D ;D ;D https://imgur.com/3m8TicF.gif https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

[quote]They were both pardoned by the Governor

Insane isn't it. Governor and all.

Does she have the gun in case the guy with the ugly stick comes back to beat her some more ?

[/quote]

Insane?.....not at all, they did absolutely nothing wrong! As Americans they had the Right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the Right to defend themselves with firearms, & if threatened they would not have had to worry at all about a decision by a jury of their peers if the State ever tried them because the used deadly force.....

So, Duckboy, why don't you crawl your lil black feathered ass into her bedroom window one dark night, & find out first-hand for yourself. Remember, while you can, in Missouri, there is no requirement to retreat, or to determine if uninvited potential home invader(s) are armed before unleashing deadly force within the home. I'm sure you will never experience disappointment, or anything else ever again for that matter. https://imgur.com/LauwCil.png.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 5:31pm

::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 5:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

::) ::)

Bbwian had a new idea!!!

Wait, what?

No, sorry, false hope.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 6:24pm

Panther wrote on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 5:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 4:48pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 4:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 24^th, 2022 at 11:03am:

Quote:

The McCloskeys, you’ll recall, are the St. Louis couple who in June 2020, in the wake of the George Floyd riots, stood outside their own residence holding firearms to deter a Black Lives Matter mob

People were walking past their home in the street. These people are insane. They should not be allowed to have guns for this reason if no other.

They were both pardoned by the Governor, & they both say privately they couldn't care if their ± $3,000 combined fines plus court costs were reimbursed, or if they get their guns back, but they are suing the State for both on principal......

The McCloskeys combined wealth exceeds $50 Million Dollars, & unless the State wants to play games, they say they will make sure the State pays far in excess of the cost of both gun replacement, & reimbursement of their fines & court costs, plus all the courts lost time & efforts, which are not billable back to the McCloskeys win or lose. As far as firearm replacement goes, it's been reported the the couple have received dozens of offers for free firearm replacement, but to date both have no comment if their firearms have been replaced, but sources have said being that Missouri is a Constitutional Carry State (permit-less carry....no permits or licenses necessary from the State) it is a sure bet that they both have & then some..... ;D ;D ;D https://imgur.com/3m8TicF.gif https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

[quote]They were both pardoned by the Governor

Insane isn't it. Governor and all.

Does she have the gun in case the guy with the ugly stick comes back to beat her some more ?

Insane?.....not at all, they did absolutely nothing wrong! As Americans they had the Right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the Right to defend themselves with firearms, & if threatened they would not have had to worry at all about a decision by a jury of their peers if the State ever tried them because the used deadly force.....

So, Duckboy, why don't you crawl your lil black feathered ass into her bedroom window one dark night, & find out first-hand for yourself. Remember, while you can, in Missouri, there is no requirement to retreat, or to determine if uninvited potential home invader(s) are armed before unleashing deadly force within the home. I'm sure you will never experience disappointment, or anything else ever again for that matter. https://imgur.com/LauwCil.png.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif
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Quote:

Insane?.....not at all, they did absolutely nothing wrong! As Americans they had the Right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the Right to defend themselves with firearms

They have acknowledged guilt.

The wife spent half the time pointing her gun at her husband, maybe he was the greater threat.

It was obvious that she lacks the skills to be allowed to carry.

It was also obvious that the pedestrians walking past their house were no threat. The dangerous threat was the McCloskeys.

A pair of armed gun nuts pointing their weapons at pedestrians passing in the street.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 9:32pm

Quote:

Generally when you plea guilty to a misdemeanor it is because it is easier to do that then fight the charge.

The husband knew his wife was not familiar with firearms and it was later proven they both knew the handgun was non-functioning.

See last statement, it was a bluff on her part.

The "pedestrians" were on their way to burn down the home of the Mayor and threatened the McCuskey's lives and home.

A pair of homeowners telling the mob to move along, nothing worth dying here for!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 28^th, 2022 at 9:54pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 12:23pm

Missouri Gun Law: 'The Second Amendment Preservation Act'

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The new Second Amendment Preservation Act, which is the best gun law in the USA at protecting the Second Amendment. This law uses the same strategy that State legal marijuana and sanctuary cities have used. This is an anti-commandeering law stating that MO officials will no longer enforce federal laws that MO does not have. Governor Mike Parson signed it with emergency action making this effective immediately for Missourians!

[media width=815]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VC61CQ3C18[/media]

The Second Amendment Preservation Act passed recently in Missouri, is a law that Nullifies Federal Gun Laws because it forbids State Law Enforcement to be used, in cooperation with the Federal Government, used to enforce any Federal Gun Laws that are not also Missouri State Laws.....which means existing law, or law yet to be enacted......

This, along with the many thousands upon thousands of Sheriffs countrywide....who are already on record that they will flatly refuse any Federal Gun Laws that unconstitutionally, in their opinion, infringes upon an American Citizens Right to Keep & Bear Arms, this will effectually NULLIFY any Federal Gun Laws, because a law is only as strong as those willing to enforce it.......with no one willing to enforce it , the law is becomes toothless....

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............AMERICA............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 12:35pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 12:57pm

Sheriffs Refusing To Enforce Washington State's New Gun Law

[media width=815]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WECw0fDkZFo[/media]

Another gun law that won't be enforced...... https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:08pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:15pm

Sheriffs Refuse To Enforce Laws On Gun Control

[media width=815]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS173Myh5qs[/media]

More Gun Laws that won't be enforced!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:32pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:12pm

Police chief in Eastern Washington says his officers won't enforce new gun laws

[media width=815]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJMtKykI7-Q[/media]

Well, 18 year olds are old enough to vote, & die for their country, & now they won't have to worry about gettin' jammed up by the police for having an Armalite Rifle Model 15 look-alike, or any other evil looking, scary black semi-automatic .223 rifle to be legally carried, transported, or used specifically for his/her self-defense, or many other legal uses......

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:37pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Americans Will Nullify US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:01pm

NULLIFICATION - States Refusing to Cooperate with the Feds!

[media width=615]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WogujF5Zes[/media]

To stop Federal Acts & Laws, James Madison recommended a “refusal to cooperate with officers of the Union.”

Over 170+ years of Supreme Court Precedent supports NULLIFICATION.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:56pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 10:01am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:56pm:

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The unfortunate deaths of the innocent lend all Americans a reason, a reason for us the living........to pause, reflect, & mourn for those fallen.........those that have fallen....they will be deeply missed.....but their deaths change nothing, except for us, the living, to redouble our efforts & resolve to continue on as Americans always have before........

Our unique ability to carry on against all adversity makes us even stronger..........for such tragedies will surely come to pass.....again.....& again......& again......

I said it before, & I will say it again......

After a period of mourning has subsided, Americans....all Americans....will stand up tall, dust ourselves off, pay homage to those fallen, & undaunted, we Americans will move forward with our American Freedoms & Liberties intact, prepared to take on the challenges of whatever might come our way..........never forgetting those that have passed.........it's the American Way, & always has been for hundreds of years........The Price of Freedom never comes without a cost, & dear as it may be, it is a price that must be paid so all our American posterity can live on in the warmth of the Freedom & Liberty we Americans hold now, & have always held, dearest......

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution affirms, defends, & protects an American Citizen's Right to Keep & Bear Arms to use in Self-Defense.....of himself/herself, their loved ones, friends, & fellow citizens.

If you, or anyone else for that matter, finds Our Rights as American Citizens offensive, you'll just have to suck it up, & get over it, or face the reality that they'll remain offensive to you for the rest of your NATURAL life. Our American Rights will serve all us Americans, & our posterity, as they have for over 200 years, for all time.

We Americans will sigh for you......& then wish you all the best, as you travel through your mediocre, little lives.....for unlike Americans, you have no affirmed & guaranteed Right to use firearms for Self-Defense, as we do in our U.S. Constitution...... https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............AMERICA............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by JaSin. on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 12:32pm

The Government Armed Forces are the Israeli Jews.
The People's Armed Forces are the Islamic Moslems.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 12:48pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Americans will Simply Nullify US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 4:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 12:48pm:

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So what.......Americans will always want their firearms for self-defense, & they have the Right to have them........

So few Americans, & most Americans know it, so few Americans are murdered with AR-15s compared to other weapons, why all the emotional calls from abroad for their banning?

It isn't warranted.

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.......But, according to data from the FBI, far more murders are committed with handguns, knives, or even bare hands.

The most recent data from 2019 shows that although firearms do account for the majority of homicides – 10,258 – the number of homicides committed using a rifle – 364 – is much smaller.........

Now, that data is for ALL rifles as the weapon used.......the AR-15 accounts for an infinitesimal percentage of that - 364 - number.....meaning simply the "Scary, Black, Military Looking AR-15 is merely a blip, & banning them won't do anything in effectually lowering the crime rate, or less still.....the murdered by gun rate.....

What a con job by the Anti-Gun, Anti-Second Amendment Leftists.....wanting to ban a firearm that does nothing to safeguard over 330 Million Americans......

Less than 300 out of about 11,000 firearm homicides yearly were actually due to the dreaded .223 caliber Semi-Automatic Self-Defense/Sporting/Hunting Rifle....the AR-15...... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 8:51pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 9:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

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That would have been directed at the lefty progressives

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 10:01am

There are more American Hunters than there are troops in all the Worlds military combined and they are all snipers! We know why we must keep our guns.

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Post by Brian Ross on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:15pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Sheriffs Nullifing US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 8:45am

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'No' Sheriff in Town: Lawmen Refuse to Enforce Federal Gun Laws
A growing numbers of sheriffs are saying they won't heed U.S. restrictions on guns, saying
they violate constitutional guarantees.

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With more states passing stronger gun control laws, rural sheriffs across the country are taking their role as defenders of the Constitution to a new level by protesting such restrictions and, in some cases, refusing to enforce the laws.

Sheriff Mike Lewis considers himself the last man standing for the people of Wicomico County, Maryland.

“State police and highway patrol get their orders from the governor,” the sheriff said. “I get my orders from the citizens in this county.”.......

Most all Rural Sheriffs, & their deputies across America are duty bound only to the people who elected them.....the American People. The are not employed by the Government, they are employed by the People via elections.

They do not take their orders from the Governor, or any government courts or officials. They are bound by their duty to the US Constitution.......Keeping their Oaths to uphold the Constitution first & foremost....& protecting a Citizen's Rights to keep & bear arms by not aiding Federal Agents in enforcing unjust laws against the people, like 'Red Flag Laws' without due process, & any other firearm laws they themselves deem as unconstitutional.....that infringes upon the Rights of the People.

Title: ⮞⮞ Sheriffs Nullifing US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 8:46am

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Lawmen Refuse to Enforce Federal Gun Laws
A growing numbers of sheriffs are saying they won't heed U.S. restrictions on guns, saying
they violate constitutional guarantees.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Sheriffs Nullifing US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 8:57am

Panther wrote on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 8:46am:

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Lawmen Refuse to Enforce Federal Gun Laws
A growing numbers of sheriffs are saying they won't heed U.S. restrictions on guns, saying
they violate constitutional guarantees.

This story is eight years old.

Title: ⮞⮞Americans Will Nullify US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 10:28am

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Second Amendment Sanctuary States & Localities

Source: WIKIPEDIA
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Second Amendment Sanctuary, also known as a gun sanctuary, refers to states, counties, or localities in the United States that have adopted laws or resolutions to prohibit or impede the enforcement of certain gun control measures perceived as violative of the Second Amendment such as universal gun background checks, high capacity magazine bans, assault weapon bans, red flag laws, etc.[1][2]........

More & more States, Counties, & Localities are assisting their law enforcement agencies, Sheriffs, & most importantly -- their Citizens, in making sure their Rights to Keep & Bear Arms never become infringed upon by Federal & local laws that ignore their Firearm Rights!
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Post by Brian Ross on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 3:12pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Americans Will Nullify US Federal Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 17^th, 2022 at 6:36pm

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Iowa Police Could Face $50,000 Fine
For Enforcing Federal Gun Laws

Source: The Quad-City Times
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Local governments or law enforcement officers who enforce federal gun regulations that exceed Iowa’s rules would be subject to $50,000 fines under a legislative proposal advanced Wednesday by Iowa Senate Republicans.

The proposal, which Senate Republicans have titled the Second Amendment Preservation Act, would nullify any federal gun regulations that exceed Iowa state law. The legislation is similar in spirit to resolutions passed by several Iowa counties declaring themselves so-called “sanctuary counties” from federal gun laws.

The state bill, Senate File 2002, was introduced by Sen. Zach Nunn, a Republican from Altoona and an officer in the Iowa National Guard.

“Our Second Amendment in and of itself is sanctuary,” Nunn said Wednesday during a subcommittee hearing. “There should be no law that crosses that line.”

The proposal is based on similar legislation that was passed in Missouri in 2021. The Missouri law has faced legal challenges, including from the federal justice department, and most recently a group that represents nearly 60 Missouri police chiefs has asked for changes to that state’s law.

Organizations representing Iowa law enforcement so far have registered as neutral on the bill, and none spoke at the subcommittee hearing.

“This is a dangerous bill,” Traci Kennedy, with the gun safety advocacy group Iowa Moms Demand Action, said during the hearing. “It would make it illegal for any public officer or law enforcement to assist with enforcement of federal gun laws that help keep our communities and state safe.”

Nunn said Jasper County was the first in Iowa to declare itself a sanctuary county from federal gun laws. He cited recent orders from federal agencies as examples of why his proposed legislation is needed.
“Drafting this bill I took no pleasure in identifying there could come a time when a fed regulatory authority could enforce on the state something that is protected by the (U.S.) Constitution,” Nunn said. “(The bill) is a clear indication to the federal government that their overreach in Iowa will not be tolerated.”
Kelly Meyers, a lobbyist for the Iowa County Attorneys Association, said county attorneys have expressed concern the legislation would make it difficult for law enforcement to enforce laws that are designed to protect victims of domestic violence.

Sen. Jeff Reichman, R-Montrose, who is shepherding the bill through the legislative process, said he is willing to amend it to address those types of concerns. He said the subcommittee hearing was the first time he had heard that specific concern.

“And that is a great concern,” said Reichman, adding that he was going from the subcommittee on this bill to one on domestic violence. “We’ve had, I think, four deaths I know of in recent history in my county, and three of them have been domestics. So that’s a great concern to me and obviously want to make sure that point is addressed.”

With its passage out of subcommittee, the bill is eligible for consideration by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Americans will do whatever it takes to Nullify Anti-Second Amendment Legislation send down from Washington D.C. that ignores the US Constitution's protections of an American Citizen's Rights to Keep & Bear Arms!!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 17^th, 2022 at 8:27pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Americans will Nullify Federal Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 11:02am

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State Lawmakers Seek to Nullify
Federal Gun Laws

Legislation in at least a dozen states seeks to nullify any new restrictions, such as ammunition limits or a ban on certain types of weapons. Some bills would make it a crime for local police officers to enforce federal gun laws.

Source: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/3/4/22313614/gop-state-lawmakers-nullify-federal-gun-limits
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SALT LAKE CITY — With Democrats controlling the presidency and Congress, Republican state lawmakers concerned about the possibility of new federal gun control laws aren’t waiting to react.
Legislation in at least a dozen states seeks to nullify any new restrictions, such as ammunition limits or a ban on certain types of weapons. Some bills would make it a crime for local police officers to enforce federal gun laws.

That can create confusion for officers who often work with federal law enforcement, said Daniel Isom, a former chief of the St. Louis Police Department who is now a senior advisor for Everytown for Gun Safety. Federal law plays a big role in some areas, such as keeping guns away from domestic violence offenders.
Putting local officers in a position to decide which laws to enforce is the last thing police need at a time when cities such as St. Louis are experiencing a rise in violent crime, Isom said.

“This has been an extremely challenging year for both communities and law enforcement, and to ask any more mental strain on officers at this point in time seems to be quite displaced,” he said. Gun sales also have set monthly records nationwide since the coronavirus pandemic took hold.
Isom is concerned about a Missouri measure passed by the state House that would allow police departments with officers who enforce federal gun laws to be sued and face a $50,000 fine. It’s not the first time Missouri has considered such a bill, but supporters pointed to President Joe Biden taking office as a reason to pass it now.

In Utah, Republican Rep. Cory Maloy also referenced the incoming administration after the state House passed his bill with a similar provision forbidding the enforcement of federal gun laws. Many Republican state lawmakers see attempts to pass federal firearms restrictions as a threat to the Second Amendment.
“We really feel the need to protect those rights,” he said.

Several states passed similar laws under then-president Barack Obama, although judges have ruled against them in court. Most of the latest crop of federal nullification proposals focus on police officers inside their states who primarily enforce state rather than federal laws.

While Biden has called for a ban on assault weapons, any new gun legislation will likely face an uphill climb given the political polarization that has tripped up past administrations. Democratic lawmakers from conservative-leaning states also could join Republicans in opposing new gun restrictions. Any measures likely to pass would have broad support, like background checks on all gun sales, said Everytown President John Feinblatt.

Those dynamics haven’t stopped state lawmakers who want to make the first move to protect gun rights in their states. Federal nullification bills have been introduced in more than a dozen other states, including Alabama, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Wyoming, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia and Iowa. In Texas, the governor has called for the state to become a Second Amendment sanctuary........

........Similar measures passed by the Republican Legislature in Montana were vetoed in previous years by the former Democratic governor. Now working with a Republican governor, the state House passed a bill last week to bar state officials from enforcing federal bans on certain firearms, ammunition or magazines.
Under Obama’s presidency, the Legislature passed a law in 2009 that made guns and ammunition manufactured in Montana exempt from federal law. It eventually was struck down in court, but several states still followed with their own nullification measures. In 2013, two Kansas men tried to use that state’s nullification law to overturn their federal convictions for possessing unregistered firearms, but the challenge was rejected.

“The main issue there is the Supremacy Clause,” the part of the Constitution that says federal law supersedes state law, said Jacob Charles, executive director of the Center for Firearms Law at Duke Law School. Even so, the bills focused on what local police can and can’t do could pass legal muster.

“States have no obligation to enforce federal law,” he said.

The Right of the American People to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be infringed upon by the U. S. Federal Government...or any other damn government for that matter... https://imgur.com/3m8TicF.gif https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 12:09pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 12:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 12:09pm:

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When new laws conflict with the Rights of the People, as affirmed & protected in the US Constitution.....the Supreme Law of the Land.....& defined by the United States Supreme Court....who has final say as to Constitutional Interpretation....then laws deemed as such must be ignored & rendered unenforceable.......effectively nullified.......the bottom line is simple.....States have no obligation to enforce Federal Law...... https://imgur.com/6tcmHQH.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 12:44pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 12:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 12:44pm:

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Post by Brian Ross on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 1:37pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 1:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 1:37pm:

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You post like they have brains - you are wasting your time.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 1:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 1:37pm:

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Yes Bwian.....that's why YOU need YOUR AUSTRALIAN Gun Control Laws
in AUSTRALIA.......

America don't want or need your stinkin' Gun Control Laws.......

https://imgur.com/LfHC5l3.png

Law-Abiding Americans will only respect American Law that respects their American Constitutional Rights!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 2:27pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 5:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 1:37pm:

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 7:54pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 9:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 7:54pm:

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Conservative don't care about the wrong people getting welfare - they care about anyone who isn't wealthy getting welfare and the more wrong people who get guns the greater the profits for everyone in the chain from the NRA to the sellers to the undertakers and to the politicians etc. They encourage the wrong people having access to guns.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:47am

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 10:07am

U.S. Town Proud of its Mandatory Gun Law

[media width=815]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRtVgsHiWyA[/media]

Finally, after all these years, an example of "Common Sense Firearms Legislation."

Mandatory Gun Ownership: All law abiding citizens shall own, purchase, & poses firearms.

Facts.....just damn facts!!! https://imgur.com/3m8TicF.gif https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless The United States Constitution............AMERICA............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 10:16am

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 10:30am

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 11:11am

Bwian.....that's why YOU need YOUR AUSTRALIAN Gun Control Laws, & keep them where they belong....in AUSTRALIA.......

America don't want or need your stinkin' Gun Control Laws.......We Americans have OUR Law......The United States Constitution.

The US Constitution tells OUR American government what it must do in OUR behalf.....of the American Citizens, & it also tells the government, what they OUR government, are absolutely forbidden to do......now & forever, unless 'We the People' change our minds, & insist on amending OUR Constitution....permitting, with the People's permission & consent, permitting the government to do otherwise.

https://imgur.com/LfHC5l3.png

Law-Abiding Americans will only respect American Law that respects their American Constitutional Rights, & a government that does what they are told.....nothing more, nothing less!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 12:14pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 9:55pm

Nice picture Brian but how about a little personal opinion?

Gun banners always want to disarm honest people but on many other subjects they don't care about the deaths and suffering of innocents!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 11:41am

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 7:08pm

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Lawmakers Approve Bill to Nullify Presidential Gun Orders

Source: Montgomery Advertiser
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The Alabama Legislature Thursday gave final approval to a bill that would attempt to nullify executive presidential orders on guns.

The bill, SB 2, sponsored by Sen. Gerald Allen, R-Tuscaloosa, passed the Alabama House of Representatives 68 to 28 after it amended the bill on the floor. The Senate concurred in the changes on a 23 to 5 vote Thursday afternoon. The legislation goes to Gov. Kay Ivey.
The Alabama Legislature Thursday approved a bill that would nullify presidential gun orders in the state.

"The people of Alabama are concerned about this issue," said Rep. David Standridge, R-Hayden. "People are concerned about losing their rights to own firearms."

The American People have a Right to protest & ignore Unconstitutional edicts & laws......especially if it contradicts or infringes upon the vital Right to Self-Defend......

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 7:32pm

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 7:48pm

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 8:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 7:48pm:

As I have already said......If proposed gun laws do not affect the criminals who are responsible for committing gun crimes, but only negatively affect those the crimes are committed against, then that's a bad law.....that law must be disregarded in total, & nullified by non-compliance by the American People all across America......

Americans must not comply with any gun ban that only affects the Law Abiding, & not the criminals who have proven time & time again that they ignore any law in order to commit their crimes......

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 8:09pm

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 9:22pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 30^th, 2022 at 3:02pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on May 30^th, 2022 at 3:43pm

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Why does the second amendment demand that the Militia be well regulated to allow it to be armed and then for everyone else no regulation at all is permitted?

Funny that the second amendment does not say anything like this ?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 30^th, 2022 at 3:48pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 30^th, 2022 at 4:16pm

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

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Why does the second amendment demand that the Militia be well regulated to allow it to be armed and then for everyone else no regulation at all is permitted?

Funny that the second amendment does not say anything like this ?

◆ In the early colonial 1700's & until the mid 1800's the 'Militia' was understood by all to mean 'each individual, having a common purpose to protect & defend, who was fit & able to carry & use their personal firearms or weapons'.

◆ In the 1700's thru early/mid 1800's 'Regulated' simply meant anything 'in good working order', not as we know it today as, 'under the control of some law or regulatory body'.

The Second Amendment: The Purpose for the following Right = A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, The Actual Right = the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Many words actually had different intended meaning 250 years ago than they have today, & it was finally necessary to be addressed in 2008 by the United States Supreme Court, which has the sole Right & interpretative Power regarding the US Constitution.

When the Supreme Court comes to a decision, as it did in the Heller Decision, it is from that point to be understood as 'The Law', that is until another subsequent US Supreme Court might have a valid reason to do otherwise in a subsequent decision of it's own, or if the American People might choose to Amend their Constitution as they find necessary from time to time to reflect their just needs &/or desires to control, & direct the powers of their government.

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 30^th, 2022 at 4:44pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 30^th, 2022 at 5:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 4:44pm:

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Quote:

President Trump signed a measure into law Tuesday that rescinds an Obama-era rule aimed at blocking gun sales to certain mentally ill people.

The GOP-majority Senate passed the bill by a 57-43 margin earlier this month, following a House vote to overturn the rule.

The Obama administration policy "would have required the Social Security Administration to report the records of some mentally ill beneficiaries to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System," as The Two-Way has reported. "Those who have been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs — roughly 75,000 people — would have been affected by the rule."

I heartily applaud the bi-partisan votes by both the US Senate & US House, & then signed by President Donald John Trump, to overturn the UNJUST rule forced upon the Social Security Administration, removing those 75,000 or so non-violent American Senior Citizens from the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System.....their Only Crime was that they needed help doing their taxes every year, & therefore deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs by accountants in the IRS who had to help them. Now they can exercise their Constitutional American Right to Keep & Bear arms just like millions of their fellow non-violent American Citizens do every year!!

God Bless The United States Constitution!.......God Bless AMERICA!
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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:20pm

Joe Biden left over 300,000 fully automatic firearms for the Taliban in Afghanistan along with billions of dollars of military equipment. He doesn't get to lecture the American Public about what he believes. Maybe it isn't paranoia, maybe he does want to make war on the American people!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:55pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 4:44pm:

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If they have so many genuine thoughts & prayers, why didn't they just pray to their God that no children would be killed in a mass shooting in the first place?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 30^th, 2022 at 9:18pm

Who is this free state guarding their security from?

Who is the risk ?
Who poses a threat ?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:55pm:

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Norway is a homogenous society, the US is multicultural. It is as simple as that. Norway isn't being flooded with literally millions of third world people who do not share the values of the country they are invading! As the saying goes, statistics don't lie but you can lie with statistics. Without the forty million plus illegals and first generation illiterates our stat would be better than Norway.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:04pm

At least eleven assassination attempts with firearms have been made on U.S. presidents (over one-fifth of all presidents); four sitting presidents have been killed, three with handguns and one with a rifle.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:06pm

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:35pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:55pm:

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Read up on the real demographics of Norway... ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 4:44pm:

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If they have so many genuine thoughts & prayers, why didn't they just pray to their God that no children would be killed in a mass shooting in the first place?

I'm curious.

Why would they do that when they were complicit in supplying the guns.

The term "thoughts and prayers" is just the words in the script, I doesn't actually mean anything.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:48pm

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/28/politics/kamala-harris-assault-weapons-ban-buffalo-uvalde/index.html

Harris calls for assault weapons ban after back-to-back mass shootings

DJ Judd
Devan Cole byline

By Donald Judd and Devan Cole, CNN

Updated 2016 GMT (0416 HKT) May 28, 2022

Washington (CNN)Vice President Kamala Harris called for an assault weapons ban Saturday, saying that in the wake of two back-to-back mass shootings such arms are "a weapon of war" with "no place in a civil society."
"On the issue of gun violence, I will say, as I've said countless times, we are not sitting around waiting to figure out what the solution looks like. You know, we're not looking for a vaccine," Harris told reporters in Buffalo, New York, after attending the funeral for a victim of a mass shooting there earlier this month. "We know what works on this. It includes, let's have an assault weapons ban."
"You know what an assault weapon is? You know how an assault weapon was designed?" she continued. "It was designed for a specific purpose -- to kill a lot of human beings quickly. An assault weapon is a weapon of war with no place, no place in a civil society."

The comments from the vice president come as the nation is reeling from both Buffalo, where 10 people were killed in a racist mass shooting at a supermarket, and from a mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, earlier this week in which 19 children and two teachers were killed by a gunman.

Harris, who has previously called for an assault weapons ban, also on Saturday called for enhanced background checks for firearm purchases, noting that, to date, there have been over 200 mass shootings in the country, despite being "barely halfway through the year."
"Everybody's got to stand up and agree that this should not be happening in our country, and that we should have the courage to do something about it," she said.

Harris did not respond to a reporter's question on whether President Joe Biden would pursue an executive order if Congress failed to pass meaningful gun reform. The President said during a trip to Buffalo last week that there was "not much on executive action" that he could do to further strengthen gun control measures. He said he needed to instead "convince Congress" to pass legislation like the 1994 assault weapons ban.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on May 30^th, 2022 at 11:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:35pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:55pm:

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Read up on the real demographics of Norway... ::) ::)

Take out the five largest democrat cities in the US from your graph and we would be above UK! The people shooting people in those cities don't look like they came from Norway!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on May 30^th, 2022 at 11:05pm

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:48pm:

An illegal executive order would be unconstitutional.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 31^st, 2022 at 12:49pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:35pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 8:55pm:

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Read up on the real demographics of Norway... ::) ::)

Take out the five largest democrat cities in the US from your graph and we would be above UK! The people shooting people in those cities don't look like they came from Norway!

Racism, Mort? It doesn't become you. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 31^st, 2022 at 1:29pm

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NULLIFICATION is the RIGHTFUL REMEDY.

A law....any law.....is only as powerful as those who are willing to enforce them.

If the President of the United States, the most powerful man on Earth, decides that the only way to effectuate his ill begotten political gun-control inclinations are via 'Executive Orders', & local law enforcement across the Nation refuse to enforce those orders because the law enforcement officers, duty bound by oath, regard those orders as unconstitutional......that the Executive Orders infringe upon an American Citizen's Constitutional Right to Keep & Bear Arms, which is affirmed & protected by the Second Amendment, their refusal to enforce is equivalent to NULLIFICATION.....thereby effectively making the Executive Orders Null & Void via their non-enforcement.

NULLIFICATION is the RIGHTFUL REMEDY.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on May 31^st, 2022 at 3:20pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:48pm:

An illegal executive order would be unconstitutional.

If it is put in place and survives for 12 months which would save many lives then it would be worth it.

And no it is not un constitutional till the court rules on it which this corrupt court would be likely to do.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:27pm

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 3:20pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2022 at 10:48pm:

An illegal executive order would be unconstitutional.

If hundreds upon hundreds of Sheriffs all across America come to the decision not to enforce the 'Executive Order' indefinitely, the Order is effectively NULLIFIED due to non-enforcement.....they don't need a Supreme Court Ruling on Constitutionality to decide not to enforce the law that the Sheriffs see is unconstitutional in their opinion.....Furthermore:

Source: Wikipedia
Quote:

Since 1992, the Supreme Court has ruled the Tenth Amendment prohibits the federal government from forcing states to pass or not pass certain legislation, or to enforce federal law.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:34pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:34pm:

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Quill pen, parchment and horse drawn cart was the internet of that time also. Affix your comments to a post in the Town Square or catch up with the times. The Americans of 1776 were better armed then the British Army and had better tactics. There is no reason for that to change! When you continue to look in the wrong place for solutions, you never get the results you claim to want.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

The problem is far from the look. The high velocity projectile is made to kill people. It rips people to pieces, it blows holes in people or it basically explodes people.

No it's not about looking deadly - it is deadly. The perfect weapon if you set out to kill 19 children. Not much good for anything else.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 1:35am

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:34pm:

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Just so. It was hardly possible for Putin to steal your parties' letters and install letter-writing trolls to support your Dear Leader back then, now was it?

I wonder what your founding fathers would have thought of Putin's influence in 2016, eh?

I wonder what they'd think of a prez who said, Russia, if you're listening...

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 1:39am

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

Oh? I thought they used them for duck hunting.

No?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 11:37am

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America has 20 million AR-15 Style Rifles
(Modern Sporting Rifles - MSRs) in Circulation

Source: THE INSIDER
Quote:

◈ There are 20 million AR-style weapons in circulation in the US, according to the NSSF.
◈ They're part of a total 393 million guns owned by US civilians, more than the American population.
◈Debate on gun ownership has reignited after a massacre at an elementary school in Texas last week.

Around 19.8 million AR-15 style rifles are in circulation in the US, a nationwide tally that's surged from around 8.5 million since a federal assault weapons ban expired in 2004.

The more recent estimate comes from a November 2020 statement by the National Shooting Sports Foundation. In the statement, its President and CEO Joseph Bartozzi called the AR-15 the "most popular rifle sold in America" and a "commonly-owned firearm."

The debate over gun ownership and the public sale of AR-15-style weapons has intensified after the killing of 19 children and two adults in an elementary school shooting last week in Uvalde, Texas.

The gunman carried an AR-15 variant during the attack, and the semi-automatic weapon type has been used in other high-profile shootings and incidents, such as the massacre in Buffalo and in the case of Kyle Rittenhouse, who was acquitted in November after fatally shooting two people and injuring a third.

Statistics show that the number of AR-15s owned by the American public has increased dramatically in the last two decades.

There were around 8.5 million AR-platform rifles in circulation in the US before 1994, when the weapons were prohibited under a federal assault weapons ban, per the Associated Press.

The bill, signed by then-President Bill Clinton, only applied to assault weapons manufactured after the law was enacted.

During the 10-year ban, many AR-style weapons were still legally used because they could be heavily modified so they wouldn't fall under the bill, and the number of such rifles in circulation stayed the same, according to the AP.[/b]

After the ban expired in 2004, the net import and manufacturing of AR-15 style weapons jumped from 314,000 that year to more than 1 million in 2009, according to the latest firearms production report by the NSSF.

The production rate has consistently stayed above 1 million per year since 2012, and surpassed 2.2 million rifles per year in 2013 and 2016.

An average of 4.14 million guns were manufactured every year between 1990 and 1999. And an average of 3.7 million were manufactured annually between 2000 and 2009, according to the 2021 Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives report by the Department of Justice. That annual average jumped to 8.57 million per year from 2010 to 2019, according to the ATF.

US consumers own around 393 million firearms, both legal and illegal, according to 2018 data from the Small Arms Survey, a Swiss-based project from the Geneva Graduate Institute. That means there are more guns than people in the US.

Of that total, around 741,000 are fully automatic machine guns registered in the US, up from almost 457,000 in 2010, per ATF reports.

A November 2020 Gallup poll found that 44% of Americans said they live in households with guns. That would mean that of the 122 million households in the US, the hundreds of millions of firearms owned by Americans are spread among 53.7 million households.

All firearm figures are merely estimates simply because less than 10% of all Firearms in the USA are registered......making it impossible for the Government to know who owns what, & where they are located.

Door-to-door searches, to put it mildly, would be a high mortality risk 'undertaking'. https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

Source: The Independent Institute
Quote:

.....What “arms” are protected by the Second Amendment? The text is explicit: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Since this is a right, the people, not the government, decide. The arms they keep in their homes and carry on their persons are protected. These include arms that are useful in a militia in order to secure a free state.

In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment protects “arms ‘in common use at the time’ for lawful purposes like self-defense” and arms that are “typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes.” Such arms are “chosen by American society,” not the government.

Heller was not the first court to enunciate the common-use test. For instance......continued

Being that there are 20 million+ AR-15s in use in America, they would easily pass the "Common Use Test".....

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 12:18pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by aquascoot on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 5:50pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:12pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 12:18pm:

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You are not an American, cockwomble. Tsk, tsk ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:54pm

Frank wrote on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 12:18pm:

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You are not an American, cockwomble. Tsk, tsk ::)

SPOT ON!!! @Frank

"Our Gun Laws..." https://imgur.com/QBmB4rl.gif

"Our American Gun Laws" don't include Bwian's skank stank ass!! https://imgur.com/fJzxHfk.gif https://imgur.com/fJzxHfk.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 11:57pm

Looks like there may finally be enough pressure to see some sanity prevail on US gun laws.

I think we all hope that it is this time.

Nobody wants to see any more of this.

Everyone should support some gun sanity.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 4:39am

So more than a week has passed since the Robb Elementary massacre,
and still the Americans—politicians and public alike—are burying their
collective heads in the sand. Biden has mouthed a few meaningless
platitudes in order to keep the press happy, but that's it.

To date in the US, there've been 8,032 gun homicides and 10,032 gun
suicides, 231 mass shootings, and 687 children ages 0-17 years killed
by guns.

—US Gun Violence Archive, 1 June 2022.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Xavier on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 6:55am

...meanwhile in 'Gay' Australia where people don't have children because they are too costly to have and with Child-care costs too, it infringes on their Media Celebrity lifestyles.

Australia doesn't need guns, because it's a dying nation anyway with minimalistic 'domestic' population growth and Boutique Gay attitudes that prefer little white fluffy dogs compared to children.
...more boat people please: someone has to mow the lawns.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:02pm

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

You must be thinking of the Terminator "Phase plasma rifle" or "mars attacks" brain disintegrator. You watch too much TV and listen to too much liberal propaganda passed off as information! The 556 is a sporting and defensive round, the problem is the poison poured into the heads of weak minded individuals by the liberal agenda. Take a day and just enjoy your subservience to the Queen and the security of knowing your place!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:23pm

The idea of 'more guns' to stop gun mass attacks has failed

Quote:
......... May 30, 2022    Pennsylvania    Philadelphia    N Delaware Ave and E Tioga St    2    2
View Incident
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2315150    May 29, 2022    Oklahoma    Taft    104 Elm St    1    7
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2315333    May 29, 2022    California    Merced    Cowden Ave    1    3
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2316364    May 29, 2022    Texas    Houston    11654 Walnut Dale Ct    0    4
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2315892    May 29, 2022    Illinois    Chicago    4400 block of W Walton St    1    4
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2315605    May 29, 2022    Arizona    Phoenix    N 58th St and W Windsor Ave    1    5
View Incident
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2315361    May 29, 2022    Nevada    Henderson    I-11 and Horizon Dr    0    7
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2315074    May 29, 2022    Illinois    Chicago    800 block of S Karlov Ave    0    5
View Incident
View Source       .........

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

There is something massively wrong in the US.

Once america can accept that concept, they may be able to improve

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Xavier on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:24pm

Only the Convicts serve the Queen Morty.
The Free Settlers, with their right to own a gun (and genocide the Aboriginals... because the convicts couldn't - being chained up n' all ;)) - are subservient to you Americans. When President USA says jump! Prime Ministers of Australia jump and Australian people do the 'Aussie Crawl' to Americans. ;)

Aussie: digging a escape tunnel from a British Prison and winding up in a USA POW camp. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:26pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

' ......... The 556 is a sporting and defensive round, ........'

So, it can't kill innocent people then?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:30pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:26pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

' ......... The 556 is a sporting and defensive round, ........'

So, it can't kill innocent people then?

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:51pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

Is that 5.56x45mm is a NATO standard military round in use by many armies around the world, Mort? Is that why the US Army uses it and inflicted it on the rest of the world during the Vietnam War? Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what lies you tell, Mort or should I call your spiel a half-truth, hey? ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Mortdooley on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 11:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:51pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

Is that 5.56x45mm is a NATO standard military round in use by many armies around the world, Mort? Is that why the US Army uses it and inflicted it the rest of the world during the Vietnam War? Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what lies you tell, Mort or should I call you spiel a half-truth, hey? ::) ::)

Once again you don't know the history of something. The 556 is a modification of the .223 which is a modification of the commercially available .222 Remington cartridge. The 222 is a long range varmint cartridge for shooting ground hogs, it doesn't blow people up. However it is devastating on the little rodents! The thinking of the military is more ammo can be carried for the same amount of weight and an enemy wounded is better than one killed because it could remove three people due to the need of two people to get the wounded to medical attention. A lighter weapon shooting an intermediate cartridge was chosen over the heavier weapon and cartridge. The twenty inch barrel offers the best performance for the bullet weight and powder charge used. Full metal jacket is still the rule, hollow points and soft points still violate the Geneva Convention.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 5:39am

Obvious facts are obvious facts unless... you're an American.

—Firearm ownership per 100 people. (Only firearms in civilian possession are counted.)

United States = 121
Canada = 35
Germany = 20
Australia = 14
Ukraine = 10
Argentina = 7
United Kingdom = 5
Malaysia = 1
Taiwan = 0

(Small Arms Survey 2017)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 6:05am

Quote:

............ Research has consistently found that where there are more guns, there are more shootings. The surge in gun purchases could explain why murders and violent crime overall are up, but other crimes, like rape and robbery, are down. It could also explain why 77 percent of all killings last year involved a gun — more than in any previous year. .........

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/opinion/murder-rate-police-homicide.html

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 6:19am

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 5:39am:

yes.
I think the american mentality is also a factor

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Post by AusGeoff on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 9:50am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 6:19am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 5:39am:

yes.
I think the American mentality is also a factor

Yes. Even after three mass shootings in as many weeks, Americans
seem not to be worried. I think they need a couple of things to be
done urgently—rewriting the 2nd Amendment to suit 21st century
firearm capabilities, and introducing Federal laws controlling the
licensing and possession of military-style weapons, and the public
carrying of handguns. Leaving this up to individual states is just
not going to work. Look at Texas gun laws for example—or the
total lack thereof in that Republican dominated state.

And with a total arsewipe like Greg Abbott encouraging a wild west
attitude in the streets, plus Ted Cruz in Congress strongly supporting
US gun rights, there's little chance of any reforms.

After the Robb Elementary massacre, Cruz blamed mass shootings
on declining church attendance, violent video games, prescription
drugs, cyber-bullying, social isolation, and other societal factors.

But... but... Ted, what about the guns? :-?

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Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 10:09am

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 9:50am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 6:19am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 5:39am:

yes.
I think the American mentality is also a factor

Yes. Even after three mass shootings in as many weeks, Americans
seem not to be worried.

It's actually three mass shootings reported in our media.

In three weeks they would have had about 32 mass shootings.

They've had 233 mass shootings this year, and we're not even half way through yet.

They average about 10 mass shootings a week.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 12:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 10:09am:

The devil is in the details. It's all a numbers game....There isn't one set of definitions that agree on what a Mass Shooting consists of......Most of the definitions being used by the MSM are those that fit a narrative that causes & gets the most attention....sells more....gets more viewership....fits their /reader's/viewer's/follower's political ideology.

MASS SHOOTINGS

Source: Wikipedia
Quote:

There is a lack of consensus on how to define a mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three or four victims of gun violence (not including the shooter) in a short period of time, although an Australian study from 2006 prescribed a minimum of five; & added a requirement that the victims actually died as opposed to being shot & injured but not necessarily killed.[1]

In the United States, the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012 defines mass killings as three or more killings in a single incident,[2] however the Act does not define mass shootings. Media outlets such as CNN and some crime violence research groups such as the Gun Violence Archive define mass shootings as involving "four or more shot (injured or killed) in a single incident, at the same general time & location, not including the shooter".[3] Sometimes shootings involving three or more victims occur in non-public situations such as when one member of a family shoots all the other members in the family home. These killings are known as familicides and are not included in mass shooting statistics.

The motive for mass shootings (which occur in public situations) is a defining feature in that they are usually committed by deeply disgruntled individuals seeking revenge or payback for failures in school, career, romance and life in general.[4] If multiple people are shot in a robbery or killed in a terrorist attack, these deaths are also not included under the definition of mass shootings.[5]

There are a variety of definitions of mass shooting:[6][7]

✱ Under U.S. federal law, the Attorney General – on a request from a state – may assist in investigating "mass killings", rather than mass shootings. The term is defined as the murder of four or more people with no cooling-off period[8][7] but redefined by Congress in 2013 as being murder of three or more people.[9]

✱ In "Behind the Bloodshed", a report by USA Today, a mass killing is defined as: any incident in which four or more were killed, including familial killings.[10] This definition is also used by the Washington Post,[11] & similarly Mother Jones defined it as a single attack in a public place where four or more were killed, but have since 2013 changed the threshold to three or more victims being killed due to federal mandate used in an investigation on mass shootings that was initiated by former President Barack Obama.[12]

✱ A crowdsourced data site cited by CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Economist, the BBC, etc., Mass Shooting Tracker, defines a mass shooting as any incident in which four or more people are shot, whether injured or killed.[13][14]

✱ According to the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012, signed into law in January 2013, a mass killing is defined as a killing with at least three deaths, excluding the perpetrator.[15][16]

✱ CBS defines that a mass shooting is an event involving the shooting (not necessarily resulting in death) of five or more people (sometimes four)[17] with no cooling-off period.[13][17][18]

✱ Crime violence research group Gun Violence Archive, whose research is used by major American media outlets, defines mass shooting as "FOUR or more shot and killed in a single event [incident], at the same general time and location, not including the shooter," differentiating between mass shooting and mass murder and not counting shooters as victims.[19]

✱ Though there are several different definitions of a mass shooting, there are also certain inclusions and exclusions. University of Pennsylvania says no matter how many people are killed, if a shooting occurs by a foreign terrorist that is not included. Another exclusion is if 10 people are shot but only 2 die. Also if 5 people are run over by a car that does not count because no firearm was used. Some inclusions are multiple deaths caused by an armed robbery. Deaths as a result of gang wars are also sometimes included.[20]

The lack of a single definition can lead to alarmism in the news media, with some reports conflating categories of different crimes.[21]

An act of mass shooting is typically defined as terrorist when it "appears to have been intended" to intimidate or to coerce people;[22] although a mass shooting is not, in itself, an act of terrorism.[5]

Like I said.....The Devil is in the details....which definition, based on your particular Ideology, do you choose.
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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 1:51pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 11:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:51pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:47pm:

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If the AR platform had just used wood instead of plastic it wouldn't look so deadly and frightening.

Half-truths again, Mort, hey? 5.56x45mm was chosen because it had more muzzle-velocity than 7.62x51mm rounds and weight approximately half it's weight. It was adopted by the USAF and then, the US Army. The M4 has a range of barrel lengths ranging from 14in to 20in. The shorter barrel is meant to help the weapon's use in urban environments. The round has always been considered a little "light weight" in military terms and is now due for replacement with a longer ranged round. ::) ::)

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Post by Mortdooley on Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 9:53pm

I don't see any half truths in my post. If the military wants to adopt a new round I would suggest the 300 blackout but no one is asking me. Change the barrels and everything else in stock still works with the weapons. I'm too cheap to pay the price of factory blackout so I make my own for a fraction of the price and make them to the specifications I want with bullet weights from 110 to 240 grain.

Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Aug 25^th, 2022 at 11:45am

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 25^th, 2022 at 4:25pm

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 10:19am

For All You Sports Enthusiasts
~ & ~
Firearms Collectors

[media width=801]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NeXMZ5JAVo[/media]

My Fellow Americans....Exercise your Constitutional Rights.....Why not add this sweet Semi-Automatic Rifle to your ever growing collection!

PS.......Remember, pay cash on all your firearm purchases....protect your Rights!!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Marla on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 10:27am

Panther wrote on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 10:19am:

My Fellow Americans....Exercise your Constitutional Rights.....Why not add this sweet Semi-Automatic Rifle to your ever growing collection!

PS.......Remember, pay cash on all your firearm purchases....protect your Rights!!!

Guess your penis pump you ordered from Amazon is not working?

Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 12^th, 2023 at 10:49am

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jun 12^th, 2023 at 10:51am

NULLIFICATION is the
RIGHTFUL REMEDY!!!

Most All Illinois Sheriffs Say They Won’t Enforce
New Assault-Weapons Ban

Source: Wall Street Journal
Quote:

Almost every sheriff in Illinois has vowed not to enforce a new ban on military-style semiautomatic weapons, posing a challenge to Gov. J.B. Pritzker, who championed the law in the wake of a July 4 mass shooting by a gunman wielding an AR-15-style rifle.

The protest appears to be more widespread than moves by sheriffs in several other states that have passed restrictive new gun laws in recent years. The Illinois sheriffs assert their objections to the law on Second Amendment grounds but say their refusal to enforce the measure applies only to cases where individuals aren’t accused of another crime.

The law also faces lawsuits in federal and state courts challenging its constitutionality, with two citing a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision that struck down New York’s system of registering concealed-carry weapons.

Mr. Pritzker, a Democrat, has said he is confident that the new ban will pass constitutional muster and called the sheriffs’ moves political grandstanding that comes at the expense of public safety.

All but a handful of the state’s 102 county sheriffs have signed a nearly identical statement decrying the law and saying they won’t enforce its provisions in the absence of other crimes.

DuPage County Sheriff James Mendrick said he was barraged by citizen questions about the law, which bans the sale, manufacture and possession of the weapons. Existing owners can keep their weapons but must register them with the state by the end of this year.

“Just the way it was put out, it made our citizens believe that this is the first step to basically taking everybody’s gun, you know, start with rifles, move to handguns,” said Mr. Mendrick, a Republican, whose county is the state’s second-largest with more than 900,000 residents.

He said he issued a statement last week to try to allay those concerns. “Neither myself nor my office will be checking to ensure that lawful gun owners register their weapons with the State, nor will we be arresting or housing law abiding individuals that have been charged solely with non-compliance of this Act,” said the statement, which Mr. Mendrick said was based on a template from the Illinois Sheriffs’ Association.

A spokesman for Mr. Pritzker called the concerns about searches a red herring. “Local sheriffs won’t be asked to go door to door in search of those who haven’t complied,” said Alex Gough, senior deputy press secretary for the governor. “What they are expected to do is enforce the law in the course of their regular law-enforcement activities that often require checks on the firearm status of those accused of crimes.” Mr. Gough also pointed out that city and state police will also be involved in enforcing the law and that criminal penalties attached to the law are a misdemeanor on the first occurrence and a felony on the second.

Tom Dart, sheriff of Cook County, the state’s largest with more than five million residents, is among the supporters of the new law.

The office of Mr. Dart, who is a Democrat, said in a statement that other sheriffs are getting ahead of themselves. “It is premature to speculate about enforcement action when law enforcement—including Sheriffs’ Offices—are awaiting direction from the State Police on how to enforce the new law, let alone whether the state will devote the necessary resources to enable them to do so,” it said.

In addition to banning what the law calls assault weapons, including AK- and AR-type models, the law also bans high-capacity magazines and switches that convert semiautomatic weapons to fire at a higher rate than that for which they were designed.

Eight other states and the District of Columbia have similar bans on the sale and possession of the weapons, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Five of those states also require that owners of existing assault-style weapons register them with the state, it says.......

.....Mr. Pritzker drew headlines last week when he seemed to threaten to fire sheriffs who didn’t enforce the new law. “The reality is that the State Police is responsible for enforcement, as are all law enforcement all across this state, and they will in fact do their job or they won’t be in their job,” he said.

Mr. Gough, the spokesman, said the governor was saying that the voters would decide on the fate of the sheriffs.

“Sheriffs have a constitutional duty to uphold the laws of the state, not pick and choose which laws they support and when. These sheriffs will have to answer for their records on public safety to the voters,” Mr. Gough said in a statement.

These Sheriffs don't work for the government...they are elected by the People, & are beholden only to the People, not the govt.

Bottom Line.....The Governor can't force the Sheriffs to enforce laws they deem Unconstitutional. http://i.imgur.com/TTGfbP5.gif https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif

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Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2023 at 12:27pm

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Post by Mortdooley on Jun 12^th, 2023 at 8:26pm

You are too focused on a single issue and miss the bigger picture. Two things that don't work are gun control and the war on drugs. The abusers will not be denied their chosen vice! The only objection I have to making all drugs legal is the thought that some people will get others addicted that would not do so by their own choice. Gun control laws were never about crime control but always by making people depend on government. Like I have said in the past, dog training and government policy seem to have much in common.

Bow down and lick the hand of your Master!

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Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 1:03pm

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Post by Panther on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 12:42pm

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PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP SIGNS HIS
EXECUTIVE ORDER PROTECTING 2A RIGHTS
BY NULLIFYING ALL BIDEN GUN LAWS

Source: SAF
Quote:

BELLEVUE, WA – Feb. 7, 2025 – The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) join in congratulating President Donald Trump for his Executive Order Friday protecting Second Amendment Rights.

“It is reassuring that after four long years of the executive branch assaulting our Second Amendment rights that the Trump Administration is investigating avenues to undo the damage inflicted by the prior administration,” said SAF Executive Director Adam Kraut. “We look forward to seeing tangible results benefiting gun owners and the individual liberty of every American.”

“We are delighted that President Trump is following through on his promises to gun owners during the campaign,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “We are particularly grateful to see he is directing the Attorney General to examine all orders, regulations and other actions taken by the Biden administration affecting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens during Joe Biden’s entire term in office.”

President Trump’s executive order covers all actions during the period from January 2021 through January 2025 pertaining to firearms and/or federal firearms licensees. The order focuses on rules promulgated by the Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives during that time period, and also directs the Attorney General to review reports and related documents issued by the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, which President Trump has abolished.

“Joe Biden and Kamala Harris waged war on American gun owners and the Second Amendment for four long years,” Gottlieb recalled, “treating the right to keep and bear arms like a government-regulated privilege. That ended January 20, and we are looking ahead to actions by the Trump administration which will reverse Biden’s policies and correct the harm he has done.”

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"........the Right of The People to Keep and Bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

This is just the starting point.....the first salvo.....this is just the start of President Trump's Complete Nullification of ALL Biden's Federal Gun Laws......period!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 12:56pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 1:13pm

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The American People have voted.....not responded to an old, outdated, informal poll......The American People Voted on November 5th 2024 to have OUR America & OUR American Rights Restored....We will have no less....We will never stop!!!

This will happen......Americans will prevail......Period!!!

This is OUR AMERICAN WILL!!!

God Bless The United States Constitution....God Bless AMERICA!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 1:20pm

Panther wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 12:42pm:

This is just the starting point.....the first salvo.....

Next comes the shoot-ups of pre-schools and liquor marts. Then president campaigns, pre-schools, liquor marts, presidents..

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 1:34pm

Have a look at some 2nd amendment audits.

It appears that the only Americans who can actually carry in reality are the criminals. The police will stop everyone else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4jxxxksjMk&list=PL-MIHXGzw-e_c1w0dJSPH0dzRO2yfgR34&index=4

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Title: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 1:45pm

chimera wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 1:20pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 12:42pm:

This is just the starting point.....the first salvo.....

Next comes the shoot-ups of pre-schools and liquor marts. Then president campaigns, pre-schools, liquor marts, presidents..

These things you champion, which unfortunately have happened & will most probably continue to happen, will not deter OUR American Resolve in Protecting OUR American Constitution.....& OUR Right to Keep & Bear Arms.....OUR Right to Self-Defense.

That said, if a minority of American People want to try & change the US Constitution's Second Amendment, The Law of the Land, they have the Constitutional Right to Amend OUR Constitution, but succeed.....they will not.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 3:51pm

You don't comprehend my meaning. So you don't comprehend the meaning of 'militia' in 2nd Amend.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 4:44pm

chimera wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 3:51pm:

You don't comprehend my meaning. So you don't comprehend the meaning of 'militia' in 2nd Amend.

Ok then, why not try it again in plain 'comprehendible' English, & not in gibberish.

And, btw, how I comprehend the meaning of 'militia' is immaterial. The only government entity with the power to define the US Constitution's meaning of 'Militia' is the United States Supreme Court.....they & they alone have the last say in that. What SCOTUS Says is final.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Jasin on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 4:47pm

There are 12,000 registered gun owners in my Shire.
Where are all the mass shootings and gun crimes??

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 4:48pm

No it's not final. You've done 11547 posts trying to back up the nonsense.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 4:56pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 4:47pm:

There are 12,000 registered gun owners in my Shire.
Where are all the mass shootings and gun crimes??

Oz has about 10% of US guns per 100,000 population.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 5:43pm

chimera wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 4:48pm:

No it's not final........

Such is true.....It's final until either the American People Amend their Constitution, or a future SCOTUS revisits an earlier decision & overturns it, finding the earlier decision's interpretation was in error.....

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Jasin on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 5:46pm

The Lefties are up in arms here in Australia because they only have guitars and cooking knives.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 6:03pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 5:46pm:

The Lefties are up in arms here in Australia because they only have guitars and cooking knives.

Oh, come on now.....they have imported aluminum baseball & softball bats here!!

Just as long as when you defend yourself with one, using it as a weapon...no..no..no.... You can prove you were on your way to a game & not keeping it handy in case you need a lethal weapon. https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 6:17pm

Panther wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

.It's final

Nope. Biden vs Panther, over and over again. Ask Billy the Kid.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 8:36pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 10:11pm

There are legal provisions for changing the US Constitution, those who seek to get around those legal provisions are traitors.
Just as those who seek to do the same in Australia with our Constitution, are traitors also.
‘White anting’ Republicans come to mind.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:17am

Yes indeed. Militia-abuse is widespread these days.

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Post by Panther on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:40pm

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The "Operative" Clause of the Second Amendment is the Individual Right of the People as affirmed by the United States Supreme Court in Heller, & does not require the People to be connected in any way to an organized Militia, while at the same time recognizing & ordering that that Right of the People must not be infringed upon.

See: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-4/ALDE_00013264/

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Post by Brian Ross on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:42pm

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Post by Panther on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:42pm:

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:54pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 10:11pm:

It matters not what form of government we have - as long as it is GOOD government.....

President Grappler I of Antipodia

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:55pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 5:46pm:

The Lefties are up in arms here in Australia because they only have guitars and cooking knives.

No home invader ever invaded over a pump action.... I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six...

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:12pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:55pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 5:46pm:

The Lefties are up in arms here in Australia because they only have guitars and cooking knives.

No home invader ever invaded over a pump action.... I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six...

Absolutely!!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:16pm

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:40pm:

& does not require the People to be connected in any way to an organized Militia,

Why then do you repeatedly explain the wording and reasoning? Why doesn't Congress agree with you?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:27pm

chimera wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:16pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:40pm:

& does not require the People to be connected in any way to an organized Militia,

................Why doesn't Congress agree with you?

I don't need the United States Congress to agree with me, the Congress must agree with a higher power than myself......the US Constitution's Second Amendment as defined & somewhat clarified by the United States Supreme Court in both Heller & Bruen. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:43pm

Why doesn't the Court compel Congress to twist the wording to suit the Court's idea?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:58pm

chimera wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 1:43pm:

Why doesn't the Court compel Congress to twist the wording to suit the Court's idea?

What has Congress supposedly done to need further clarification?

Every Congressman & Congresswoman can read, & are expected to know the US Constitution....."The Law of the Land"......the reason why Congress exists in the first place.

The problem, IMHO, is that some in Congress seems to have is respect for the US Constitution, Americas Sacred Founding Document, by which all law must comply & conform.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 2:05pm

Washington is a town in 'DC' a swamp just south of Canada.
'A 1967 law bans civilians from carrying guns on Capitol Hill, even if they have concealed carry licenses. But the law carves out an exception for lawmakers, who can keep firearms in their offices. Guns aren’t allowed everywhere: They’re prohibited in the House and Senate chambers and their adjoining lobbies and cloakrooms, the Marble Room of the Senate, and the Rayburn Room of the House.'

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 2:29pm

chimera wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 2:05pm:

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'A 1967 law bans civilians from carrying guns on Capitol Hill, even if they have concealed carry licenses. But the law carves out an exception for lawmakers, who can keep firearms in their offices. Guns aren’t allowed everywhere: They’re prohibited in the House and Senate chambers and their adjoining lobbies and cloakrooms, the Marble Room of the Senate, and the Rayburn Room of the House.'

Personally, I rarely respected that law whenever I visited The District of Colombia as an adult. I was never questioned if I was armed or not.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 3:15pm

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:42pm:

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 4:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 3:15pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:42pm:

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Then,
Go suck dripping wet wind out of a dead camels ass!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 4:18pm

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 2:29pm:

Personally, I rarely respected that law whenever I visited The District of Colombia as an adult.

The Court respects it and doesn't organise shoot-outs in House voting matches. Why can't judges and senators settle it at 20 paces at high noon?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 8:14pm

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 4:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 3:15pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:42pm:

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Then,
Go suck dripping wet wind out of a dead camels ass!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 10^th, 2025 at 8:38pm

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 10:20am

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ILLINOIS JUDGE RULES 'FOID CARD' REQUIREMENT UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR GUNS IN HOME

Source: SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION

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BELLEVUE, WA – An Illinois Circuit Court Judge in White County has ruled the requirement for possessing a Firearm Owner’s Identification Card to possess a gun in the home is unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

The case is known as Illinois v. Vivian Claudine Brown. Her case is supported by the Second Amendment Foundation and Illinois State Rifle Association. According to Brown’s attorney, David Sigale of Wheaton, Ill., this is the second time a judge has declared the FOID Card Act unconstitutional, dismissing the charges against Brown, who had a bolt-action rifle in her home, but did not possess an FOID card.

“The FOID Card requirement in order to exercise the constitutionally enumerated right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment clearly goes too far in this case,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. As White County Circuit Judge T. Scott Webb notes in his ruling, ‘It simply cannot be the case that a citizen must pay a fee in order to exercise a core individual Second Amendment right within their own home.’ For too long, Illinois has been treating this right like a regulated government privilege and that needs to stop.

”In his ruling, Judge Webb observed, “If the right to bear arms and self-defense are truly core rights, there should be no burden on the citizenry to enjoy those rights, especially within the confines and privacy of their own homes.”

This second ruling on FOID card constitutionality could clear a direct path back to the Illinois State Supreme Court, Gottlieb and attorney Sigale agree.

“The idea that an Illinois resident doesn’t enjoy Second Amendment rights until he or she pays a $10 fee for a FOID card is outrageous,” Gottlieb said. “Nowhere should such a mandate be allowed to stand.”

“Nowhere should such a mandate be allowed to stand.”

And now it has been sent evermore to the ash heap of unconstitutional government overreach.

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:03am

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:17am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:03am:

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That helpless feeling you down here must have knowing full well that you & your ilk down here can never affect change in USA Law......the United States Constitutions Second Amendment......which guarantees us Americans the Right to Keep & Bear Arms no matter your tears.....Enjoy your endless sulk.... https://imgur.com/jNLScBj.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:20am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:03am:

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Well sensibly controlling guns over the bodies of dead children didn't even work. That is acceptable.

Thoughts and prayers

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:35am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:20am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 11:03am:

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Well sensibly controlling guns over the bodies of dead children didn't even work. That is acceptable.

Thoughts and prayers

We all morn the dead, but it gives US, the living, more strength to persevere in retaining & protecting ALL our Gun Rights....now so with the backing of the Administration, which is in the process of wiping out all the unconstitutional gun law enacted since 2021 under the previous administration. https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 12:55pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 1:00pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 1:03pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 1:13pm

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Nullification of US Gun Law ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 2:08pm

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