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Title: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:32pm Quote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-has-new-intel-manafort-friend-kilimnik-gave-trump-n1264371 Muller found that he could not prove that Kilimnik had given the data to the Russians. It is now proven, this is the previously not proven link between the Trump campaign and Russia. Manifort to Kilimnik to Russian inteligence. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by lee on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:32pm:
How does one "develop" information?They can find it but they can't develop it. Is it like developing new software? You know like manufacturing? ::) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2021 at 3:11pm lee wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
Hard to say, Lee. Why are you asking that? Curious, are you? ;) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by philperth2010 on Apr 17th, 2021 at 3:54pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:32pm:
Muller is a Republican....Is it any wonder he didn't look that hard??? :-? :-? :-? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2021 at 4:02pm lee wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
The same way as you 'develop' a Biden victory. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2021 at 5:44pm Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 4:02pm:
How cute. Frank, you see, Lee, is a Trump man. Unlike you, unbiased and all, Frank likes to play coy. Intelligence and integrity. It's the motto of the pwestigious University of Balogney, you see. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 17th, 2021 at 9:46pm lee wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
Has an important 'missing link' been added to the Russia scandal? The information was mentioned almost in passing as part of the Treasury Department's sanctions announcement, and the most relevant sentence was just 21 words: "During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy." Why is this so extraordinary? Let's take a minute to review for readers who may need a refresher. Kilimnik's name probably sounds familiar. After all, it was just last year when, according to the U.S. intelligence community, the Russian agent tried to boost Trump's re-election prospects. But Kilimnik's work four years earlier was even more notable. Paul Manafort, in his capacity as Donald Trump's 2016 campaign chairman, shared sensitive internal campaign information with the Russian operative during the race, making Kilimnik one of the stars of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report. What we didn't know for sure is what Kilimnik did with the information he received from the Trump campaign. Today, the Treasury Department filled in the blank: Kilimnik relayed the information to Russian Intelligence Services. https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/has-important-missing-link-been-added-russia-scandal-n1264209 |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by lee on Apr 17th, 2021 at 9:52pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 9:46pm:
I don't know. Has it? What does "developed" mean? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Captain mortdooley on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:05pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:32pm:
NBC is not a credible source, how many votes have the Russians cast for Trump? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:28pm Mortdooley wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:05pm:
No, but US intelligence is. Would you prefer a different media source? No worries, you explain why Mr Trump's campaign chair provided Trump polling data to the Russian government. I'll provide you with a source that's not NBC, okay? Over to you. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Captain mortdooley on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:58pm Karnal wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:28pm:
I would prefer a source more credible than the corrupt so called U S intelligence. If the US Justice system worked the Prisons would be full of the Democrats currently in Power and those above the law like the Clintons. US Intelligence is part of the swamp and hasn't worked in the interest of the American people for a long time! The Russians bought space on Facebook, so what? The Chinese had 10 million ballots seized when their ship docked at a US Port last November. I don't think they were votes for Trump! |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2021 at 12:56am Mortdooley wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:58pm:
No worries. Does a Rebublican Senate Intelligence Committee do it for you? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwii7O_-woXwAhVBwzgGHTGxAIgQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw3yZ2sAFsRF0H_FclIjJsgn That's August, 2020, dear. Marco Rubio was its chair. Does that do it for you? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by philperth2010 on Apr 18th, 2021 at 10:24am Mortdooley wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:58pm:
If this is true why wasn't it reported Mort....Do you have a credible link to support this claim as I have never heard of it before??? :-? :-? :-? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2021 at 11:00am Mortdooley wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:58pm:
;D |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 18th, 2021 at 11:28am philperth2010 wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 10:24am:
Neither has anyone else. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 18th, 2021 at 11:39am lee wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
Yes it is all about semantics. The point is that there is now a known provable link (back channel) between The Trump election team and Russian intelligence. We know it was used to pass election research info, polling and election strategy. The fact that there was a backchannel in operation for a significant period and it is unknown what else may have been passed is a bigger concern. Polling information and strategy would have been useful for the Russians to coordinate the targeting of their efforts to maximise the benefit to Trump's election. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Mix_Master on Apr 18th, 2021 at 1:10pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 11:00am:
One nutjob conspiracy theory after another, apparently. All to keep people from accepting a reality they've no interest in, it would seem. First, it was the garbage about ballot counting observers, and the "non-zero" number of Republican observers allowed in. ::) Quote:
Link here Then, it was Severs supposedly seized in Germany :o, which have never materialised; a conspiracy theory which has been debunked here. I've asked some of the posters peddling this nonsense where these Servers are, and been deafened by the silence which ensues... Then it was some twit in Italy supposedly presenting documents to a Court there about "switched votes". ;D It, too was roundly debunked here Now this Quote:
I'd ask the obvious question (i.e. "Where does it end?") But it would be a rhetorical question, because we all know it won't. ::) These conspiracy theories will be doing the rounds long after Trump is (rightly) consigned to the dust bin of history. Some people just "want to believe", it seems... |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by lee on Apr 18th, 2021 at 3:17pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 11:39am:
Dnarever wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 9:46pm:
"It's possible that Treasury got a little ahead of itself here, and overstated what it can prove, but if the information is accurate, it's both new and important." That seems to make a point of it not being proven. . ::) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:17pm lee wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
getting someone to spy for you, in this case the CIA getting some russian to spy for them, is often called 'developing a source' ... perhaps this is what they meant |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:20pm Karnal wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 11:28pm:
Morty prefers to wait until the FSB confirms the story ... the cia is all fake news. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by lee on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:27pm John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:17pm:
Yeah. Or NOT. ;) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:28pm lee wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:27pm:
thats what 'perhaps' usually means. ::) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by lee on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:31pm John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:28pm:
Except in the hands of lefties. Then it becomes not just rolled gold but solid gold truth. ;) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:40pm lee wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
you tripping on acid again Lee? Don't you think you should take a break from that stuff? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:54pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 2:32pm:
"Leads them to believe" becomes "confirmed" in the dishonest, mendacious minds of Lefty propaganda cadres like duckduck. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 18th, 2021 at 7:19pm John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:20pm:
No he wants to wait till someone has a story that he likes. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by lee on Apr 18th, 2021 at 7:37pm John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
And yet Dna says this is "Confirmed" in the title. Something his MSNBC article says is not so. ;) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2021 at 7:47pm lee wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 7:37pm:
DNA is trying to get those who are tripping on acid to expose themselves ... his plan seems to have worked |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2021 at 9:01pm Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:54pm:
Quite so, dear boy. Confirmed by the hideous, leftard, handwringing, softcock, yeah-but-no-but US Senate Intelligence Committee. Mandacious, agit-pwop cadre pwopagandists, no? Gawd, what is it with you wogs and your endless adjectives? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 18th, 2021 at 9:03pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bacceMqv7-Q
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Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2021 at 9:28pm Karnal wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 9:01pm:
You are a paki bugger, buftie, and dont forget it. A trouser sniffing paki bugger at that. Gweggy loves you. Don't try to pretend otherwise. Be glad for your 10 rupees and your bananas. Be the proud multicultural Pakistani you are in your heart of hearts. Dont be ashamed of who and what Allah made you. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2021 at 1:47am Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 9:28pm:
Oh, old boy, you're ever so cute when you struggle. Most reminiscent of Doris Day in that movie, what was it called? That's right. Pillow Talk. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by SadKangaroo on Apr 19th, 2021 at 8:56am
Good to see all those calling it a hoax who said if there was evidence they'd be condemning T**** doing exactly that.
Oh wait, no, they're not, they're still making excuses. Well done assholes. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by SadKangaroo on Apr 19th, 2021 at 8:57am Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 4:54pm:
Do you plan on living by this standard of evidence you've set for the claims that the election was stolen from Trump? |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 19th, 2021 at 9:39am |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 19th, 2021 at 11:25am lee wrote on Apr 18th, 2021 at 3:17pm:
No it makes the point that the person asked to comment did not know that it had been proven. Rather like yourself being asked. Your view does not change the facts. This was always known to be true but now it is proven. Really what else is a Russian with active contacts back to Russian intelligence going to do with key government election data going to do with it. Night time reading material, Something to read to the kids or Pass it on to the very interested Boss ? The question here is more about what else was passed along on this channel it is known that there were many meetings over many months with this guy. This channel was open and active for a long time. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Tap on Apr 21st, 2021 at 1:26pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 11:25am:
Am I stuck in a "Groundhog Day" Déjà vu scenario? What year is it? Who lives in the Whitehouse basement? ::) |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Dnarever on Apr 21st, 2021 at 2:05pm Tap wrote on Apr 21st, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Has anyone ever been in the white house basement except for Trump hiding. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 21st, 2021 at 4:03pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 21st, 2021 at 2:05pm:
Inspecting. He was merely inspecting the bunker. |
Title: Re: Confirmed - Trump Team conspired Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2021 at 11:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2021 at 9:25am:
You were spreading total lies (nuffin' new there), as was the NYT, the ABC as was the Capitol Police and the Dems who fed those lies to the media (ditto, in politics). The truth? We only had to wait for it 3 and a half months (to make sure that the lie took root). Brian Sicknick was used to spread lies by the Dems and their compliant media about 6 Jan, Trump, voter fraud and cheating. US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes after pro-Trump riots, examiner concludes April 19, 2021 at 3:09 pm PDT WASHINGTON — Washington, D.C.’s chief medical examiner confirmed Monday that Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick suffered two strokes and died of natural causes the day after confronting rioters attempting to disrupt certification of the 2020 election on Jan. 6. Dr. Francisco Diaz told The Washington Post that the autopsy found no evidence that Sicknick, 42, suffered an allergic reaction to chemical irritants, nor was there any evidence detected of internal or external injuries. But we still do not know who the police officer was who 'summarily executed a protester by shooting her in the neck from close range. So NOBODY was killed by protesters on 6 Jan. The police shot and killed ond protest. The shooter is shielded by the Biddens. The 2020 voter fraud will come to light the same way - with great delay, well after nothing can be done about it. That's why the supposedly huge majority for Bidden took such an inordinately long time to "count". The lies, deceptions and frauds are multiple and various. |
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