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Member Run Boards >> Environment >> In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1613529583 Message started by Yadda on Feb 17th, 2021 at 12:39pm |
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Title: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Yadda on Feb 17th, 2021 at 12:39pm In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" I just watched this being reported, on the ABC America World News, on their weather report [being broadcast in Australia, on SBS1].... Texas, is seeing the coldest temp's in one hundred [100] years. Lets just say it again, 73% of the U.S. is currently covered by snow. And this has never before been seen, in the U.S. And once more, 73% of the U.S. is currently covered by snow. And this has never before been seen, in the U.S. And 'who' does Yadda blame for these record coldest ever temps in the U.S. ??? Well obviously, i blame GLOBAL WARMING ! We have to blame something for this record breaking cold weather [ALL OVER THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE] !! And i blame GLOBAL WARMING ! And an outraged Greta Thunberg say's...... What a fruit cake ! |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Yadda on Feb 17th, 2021 at 12:54pm GLOBAL WARMING..... When the facts around them, don't correspond with their policy theories, governments need to change their policy theories - paraphrasing Rowan Dean - OUTSIDERS . Climate change is real. ....and it always has been. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:09pm
You're confusing weather with climate there fella.
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:09pm Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 12:54pm:
Never do this. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Gordon on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:11pm |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Yadda on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:38pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:09pm:
Yeah. Tell the residents of TEXAS that they need to buy an old fashioned thermometer, and then learn how to read it. "It isn't really cold. You are just imagining the burst water pipes." And check out Gordon's link.... Acropolis, Parthenon and temple of Zeus covered by rare heavy snow as cold snap hits Athens Posted Yesterday at 4:50pm https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-17/acropolis-covered-by-rare-snow-as-cold-snap-hits-athens/13162034 bojack, Tell em, its just the weather, and that they're just imagining - THAT IT IS COLD OUTSIDE. :P |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:44pm Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:38pm:
It is just the weather, its a short term event. What part of short term event vs long term trend (apart from all the words) don't you understand? Its even in your link "Rare heavy snow" |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:47pm Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 12:39pm:
100 years? Lol ;D That's nothing. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Yadda on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:07pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:44pm:
So 'rare', that these 'rare' 'cold snap' events continue, again, and again to be regularly witnessed. Yeah, over the past couple of years now, the world has been witnessing a repeated series of intensely cold weather events, during this scientifically recognised period of intense GLOBAL WARMING. :P And all over the world, sea levels are rising, and we have all witnessed the inundation of many coastal cities around the world, threatening to make them uninhabitable ! . Your crew, keep going on about sea level rise. Where!! Where have we seen global coastal cities being inundated by the sea level rises ? |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:09pm Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:07pm:
How about addressing my point. You're practising the gish gallop |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:12pm
How will Monk ever explain it?
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Yadda on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:17pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 1:09pm:
Across almost an entire continent [n.America], we are witnessing a huge area being covered by snow, indeed 73% of the U.S. [the U.S. is a large land mass] has been covered by snow. And you are trying to portray this nationally impacting event, as being just a 'local weather event' in the U.S. ? Really ? |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:23pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:12pm:
The way any intelligent, well-educated person would: cold weather. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:29pm
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/16/weather/winter-storms-weather-tuesday/index.html
USA 2,000 low temperature records February 17, 2021 For some the forecast is misery upon misery. Already, about 2,000 records for low temperatures have been shattered this past week, CNN meteorologist Dave Hennen said. On Tuesday alone, at least 20 cities suffered their coldest weather in history. Many more new records are expected this week. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:38pm Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:17pm:
Indeed, I mean fancy that snow in the US in winter, who ever would have thought of it. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:38pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:29pm:
No, not in history. In the history of recorded temperatures. So, just over 100 years. That's nothing. Just cold weather, is all. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 17th, 2021 at 3:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
dear Pecca, there are now 444 pages of such record cold events in the new mini Ice Age thread. This is not a one off weather event. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/6645#6645 |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 17th, 2021 at 4:37pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 3:09pm:
I didn't say it was a one off event. I said it's just weather, and that the records are over such an unbelievably short period of time that your cries of "ice age" are ridiculous. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Dnarever on Feb 17th, 2021 at 6:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:23pm:
We seem to have 5 or 6 100 year events every year. It may all work out if we have none for 20,000 years. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 17th, 2021 at 6:28pm Dnarever wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 6:23pm:
And 2,000 low temperature records in the USA over a few days. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:28pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 6:28pm:
How far back do the records go, Bobby? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by AiA on Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:29pm
Typical GOP response: "A snowflake just hit my forehead so there cannot be climate change!"
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 17th, 2021 at 10:08pm
What is biden doing about this ?
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 17th, 2021 at 10:14pm
Millions are still without power as forecast calls for more ice and frigid temperatures in hardest-hit states
https://us.cnn.com/2021/02/17/weather/winter-storms-weather-wednesday/index.html By Madeline Holcombe, CNN Updated 6:07 AM ET, Wed February 17, 2021 People work to dig out their cars along a residential street on Tuesday in Chicago, Illinois. Texas mayor spent 38 hours without heat or water Texas has suffered the brunt of the storm, and many there are suffering the freezing temperatures with no power to heat their homes. Fort Worth Mayor Betsy Price told CNN Tuesday night that she was been without power or water for around 38 hours. "It got down to a record low last night, two degrees below," Price said. "So, it is really cold, and this is Texas, North Texas. We don't get this kind of weather. People don't always have the clothing for it, and certainly don't drive in it very well." |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by AiA on Feb 17th, 2021 at 10:41pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 10:08pm:
What is Biden doing? Nothing. Why? Because most of Texas is on its own power grid, a decision made in the 1930s to avoid federal regulation. This means both that it avoids federal regulation and that it cannot import more electricity during periods of high demand. As temperatures began to drop, people turned up electric heaters and needed more power than engineers had been told to design for, just as the ice shut down gas-fired plants and wind turbines froze. Demand for natural gas spiked and created a shortage. Of course, this is being spun to disparage the New Green Deal but the frozen wind turbines were the smallest factor in the crisis. They supply only about 10% of the state’s power in the winter. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 17th, 2021 at 10:55pm AiA wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
Bit more than a snowflake - more like a mini Ice Age. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 18th, 2021 at 12:50am
I can only hope that we get a record cold weather here in the Capricornia region during Winter. Hopefully, we will have a heavy rainfall for Autumn.
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 18th, 2021 at 7:16am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:28pm:
Bobby? |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Neferti on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:22am Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 10:14pm:
They'll have to do with their open fires and candles, won't they? ::) |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:26am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 7:16am:
Find out for us and post it. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:27am Neferti wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:22am:
It's a minor storm - just a few snowflakes according to AiA. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:38am Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:26am:
Global record-keeping started around 1880. That's about 140 years of records, Bobby. Weather has been happening for 4.5 billion years. How can you possibly make any assumptions based on such an incredibly small period of time? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:56am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:38am:
It works both ways - how can anyone say that there's global warming? |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Brian Ross on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:20am
Amazing how some people throw their hands up at a little cold weather and claim a "new Ice Age is upon us."
Texas is not known for it's super-smart people just as America isn't. Texas' problem arrive every few years and people freeze. You'd think they'd learn and start to harden their electrical system and homes to counter cold conditions because every years, the cold will come. Snow will come. Instead they just clean up from the latest episode and repair things and when the next episode occurs throw their hands up again. You do understand how climate works don't you? You do understand that in winter time one hemisphere or the other is experiencing low temperatures and snow? You do understand how physics works, don't you? How when one region is cold another region is warm or even hot? You don understand how temperatures move around the planet as the planet moves around the sun, don't you? Bobby, stop being an alarmist and start reading what is being said, not about weather events but about long term trends of climate. Please. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:28am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:20am:
Brian - I can't be silent when I see the Earth entering a mini Ice Age. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by cods on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:38am
got to admit when it snows in AMERIKA it sure snows....
https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/weather everywhere.. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:39am Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:56am:
Answer the question, Bobby: How can you make any assumptions based on such an incredibly small period of time? |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:51am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:39am:
We can't. All we can do is provide evidence. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by JaSin. on Feb 18th, 2021 at 11:39am
It's not Global Warming, it's not an Ice Age.
It is Extreme & Erratic: getting hotter, getting colder, getting dryer, getting wetter, getting windier, getting more 'shaky' underground with quakes, Volcanos, etc - all in packages. It's like watching the biorythms of a dying person of weak consistency resulting in extreme and erratic before ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ etc ;) Until life may return again for the last 1.6 million years it has left till the Star Gliese side-swipes our Solar-System within our own Orrt Cloud. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Brian Ross on Feb 18th, 2021 at 12:53pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:28am:
If it is, good. It will cure the global warming that it is undergoing right now. Texas is not the whole world. Nor is Greece. They are in the Northern Hemisphere, where it is Winter Time. We are in the southern hemisphere where it is summer. The two occur every year. Every few years the Northern Hemisphere suffers a cold snap. QED. ::) |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 18th, 2021 at 6:28pm Neferti wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 9:22am:
Last Winter, I went to bed with 10 tea light candles burning on my desk 5 metres away from where I was sleeping. They had been burning since the hour after sundown. The warmth that they provided kept me from shivering in the early morning (even with them gone out). I am not saying that it would be enough to keep warm with candles and fireplaces. But, if you can keep the room at above 15 degrees, you are doing well. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Yadda on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:19pm Weather watching scientists in north America are predicting Americans will witness a new polar vortex bring even colder temps to the U.S.'s southern states. Scientists say the new polar vortex is predicted to arrive, ....The Day After Tomorrow. Can't find this on Google ? Its probably all a lot of nonsense and false information ! :P But hey, it is 2021, ...and Joe Biden was elected President of the U.S.A. ! But ask any Texan, ....its still damned cold there, down in Texas ! |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:24pm
Texans face yet another day of misery as families struggle with unheated homes and water problems
By Travis Caldwell and Keith Allen, CNN Updated 1127 GMT (1927 HKT) February 18, 2021 https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/weather/texas-winter-storm-thursday/index.html Monk has a lot of explaining to do. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by AiA on Feb 19th, 2021 at 10:46am
Booby's pen name is Dr Sircus
Earth Cooling Dramatically https://drsircus.com/general/earth-cooling-dramatically/?fbclid=IwAR1-FMndwFArSCYFavUbxj6VXUdUzaHMUhHc2x76fuXVUWsjw-30578x_2c |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by AiA on Feb 19th, 2021 at 10:47am Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 10:24pm:
Monk's parents are the ones who have a lot of explaining to do ... |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 19th, 2021 at 10:55am AiA wrote on Feb 19th, 2021 at 10:46am:
The Texas grid failure is quickly morphing into a public health crisis as millions freeze with temperatures near zero. Rolling power outages are in effect as some of the coldest air ever is continuing to pour into the central U.S. The crisis is even spreading into Mexico. It is sad to say that some people may freeze to death amid this ‘perfect storm’ of freezing temps and no supply of power to provide heat. "The cold air is entrenched across the middle part of the country. High temperatures are amazingly cold, some 50 degrees below average." That’s probably because global warming was always a scam championed by idiotic, naïve, or corrupt politicians who never took a science course, a description that covers the vast majority of them. When the cold clears and we find dead, frozen bodies, I wonder what we should do to people, organizations, and political leaders who insist this was all due to man-made global warming. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 19th, 2021 at 10:55am AiA wrote on Feb 19th, 2021 at 10:47am:
Monk has to apologise now. |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Brian Ross on Feb 22nd, 2021 at 11:46am |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by The_Barnacle on Feb 22nd, 2021 at 12:01pm
So Bobby. have you worked out the difference between "local weather" and "global climate" yet?
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2021 at 2:48pm The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 22nd, 2021 at 12:01pm:
No. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-02-21-fifteen-lessons-i-learned-from-texasgeddon-blackouts-collapse.html Sunday, February 21, 2021 by: Mike Adams Fifteen HARD lessons I learned from the “Texageddon” blackouts and collapse of critical infrastructure. The “Texageddon” blackouts and near-collapse of all infrastructure (food, fuel, cell towers, power grid, water systems, emergency services, roads, etc.) taught us all some very difficult lessons in survival. We learned that the infrastructure is far more vulnerable than most people thought, and we saw with our own eyes that most people still refuse to prepare with extra food and water, even after a year of covid lockdowns that should have been a universal wake up call. In today’s Situation Update podcast, I reveal 15 lessons I learned the hard way, including learning which preps failed to function (and how to do better next time). The full podcast is embedded below. Here’s the short list of the 15 items: |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by Brian Ross on Feb 23rd, 2021 at 1:00pm |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2021 at 1:32pm The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 22nd, 2021 at 12:01pm:
The bigger question is have you worked out the difference between "local weather" and "local climate" yet? ;) |
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Title: Re: In Texas and U.S., "coldest ever temps" Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2021 at 1:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2021 at 1:00pm:
"ERCOT is a membership-based 501(c)(4) nonprofit corporation,[12][13] and its members include consumers, electric cooperatives, generators, power marketers, retail electric providers, investor-owned electric utilities (transmission and distribution providers), and municipally owned electric utilities.[14]" Source: wiki. So ERCOT is not an electricity provider. They do however operate the grid. So I think they are after the wrong people. Energy providers in Texas do not have to stockpile supplies for an emergency. And the Fed's limited the price that providers could sell for. "with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource or Settlement Only Generator whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is unable, or expected to be unable, to produce at its maximum output due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, ERCOT shall ensure that such Specified Resourceis only allowed to exceed any such limit during a period for which ERCOT has declared an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operation within its permitted limits; " https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE%20202%28c%29%20Emergency%20Order%20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf So they should sell at a point no one was prepared to pay? ::) |
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