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Message started by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:18pm

Title: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:18pm
That does not seem to bother at least one Member.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:20pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
That does not seem to bother at least one Member.


You?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:33pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
That does not seem to bother at least one Member.


You?


No, I am here on the Sunshine Coast as you well know.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:36pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
That does not seem to bother at least one Member.


You?


No, I am here on the Sunshine Coast as you well know.


Then you must mean Sunny boi. He's a Chinese mouthpiece, everything he posts is guaranteed CCP friendly. Or you can just tell us.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:37pm
Bye.  This Feedback Forum is not for this crap.  Carry on by yourself.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:41pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
Bye.  This Feedback Forum is not for this crap.  Carry on by yourself.


Carry on.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:18pm
dear Aussie,
watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7kEpw1tn50


and then I'll get back with some more videos.





numberphile
3.61M subscribers
Banks, Facebook, Twitter and Google use epic numbers - based on prime factors - to keep our Internet secrets. This is RSA public-key encryption.
More links & stuff in full description below ↓↓↓

Gold Vault: https://youtu.be/CTtf5s2HFkA​

This video features Dr James Grime (http://singingbanana.com/​). Message from James: "Thanks to Dr Chris Hughes of the University of York who showed me how to find the RSA public key from my browser, and showed me how awesome they look when you print them out."

Regarding the keys used for encryption:
x, y prime
Encode key E shares no factors with (x-1)(y-1)
Decode key is D with E*D - 1 a multiple of (x-1)(y-1)

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:27pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.


Not understanding something does not make it crap.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:33pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.


Not understanding something does not make it crap.


Don't blame me for not understanding.  You smart arses use a language those who know nothing do not understand.  You do not even have the good grace to even pretend condescension.  You are pissing into the wind and all you are doing is being a peacock to FD et al on how clevah you are.  The rest of us do not have a clue. 

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:35pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.



dear Aussie,
Are you saying that the world famous mathematician
Dr James Grime  -  is wrong?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:38pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.


Not understanding something does not make it crap.


Don't blame me for not understanding.  You smart arses use a language those who know nothing do not understand.  You do not even have the good grace to even pretend condescension.  You are pissing into the wind and all you are doing is being a peacock to FD et al on how clevah you are.  The rest of us do not have a clue. 


I don't think FD is happy I've been bugging him about this, you can see he sees no reason to do it with his comments. It's quite simple to understand. Your communications cannot be eavesdropped on by anyone and the biggest player in that regard are nasty governments. How do you think dissidents get info out? Plain text telegrams?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:39pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.


Not understanding something does not make it crap.


Don't blame me for not understanding.  You smart arses use a language those who know nothing do not understand.  You do not even have the good grace to even pretend condescension.  You are pissing into the wind and all you are doing is being a peacock to FD et al on how clevah you are.  The rest of us do not have a clue. 




SSL, TLS, HTTP, HTTPS Explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hExRDVZHhig



PowerCert Animated Videos


HTTPS vs HTTP vs SSL / TLS.  This video explains the difference between these protocols.  It also explains how SSL works and what is an SSL certificate.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:50pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.


Not understanding something does not make it crap.


Don't blame me for not understanding.  You smart arses use a language those who know nothing do not understand.  You do not even have the good grace to even pretend condescension.  You are pissing into the wind and all you are doing is being a peacock to FD et al on how clevah you are.  The rest of us do not have a clue. 


I don't think FD is happy I've been bugging him about this, you can see he sees no reason to do it with his comments. It's quite simple to understand. Your communications cannot be eavesdropped on by anyone and the biggest player in that regard are nasty governments. How do you think dissidents get info out? Plain text telegrams?


You have to be joking!  I don't give a flying fuq about what a Government may find out about me.  I have nothing to hide from them.  On the other hand, 'you' et al as Admin here have stood by and watched while I have been doxxed here by fuqwit stalking retards who have as much regard for the personal privacy of Members as is demonstrated here at OzPol.  The offenders are allowed back, their aiders and enablers are still immune from action which should be taken.

If you are fair dinkum and want proof of that, unblock me and I'll PM it all to you.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:54pm
dear Aussie,

didn't you know?

The D word is now forbidden on Ozpolitic.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:58pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.


Not understanding something does not make it crap.


Don't blame me for not understanding.  You smart arses use a language those who know nothing do not understand.  You do not even have the good grace to even pretend condescension.  You are pissing into the wind and all you are doing is being a peacock to FD et al on how clevah you are.  The rest of us do not have a clue. 


I don't think FD is happy I've been bugging him about this, you can see he sees no reason to do it with his comments. It's quite simple to understand. Your communications cannot be eavesdropped on by anyone and the biggest player in that regard are nasty governments. How do you think dissidents get info out? Plain text telegrams?


You have to be joking!   I don't give a flying fuq about what a Government may find out about me. I have nothing to hide from them.  On the other hand, 'you' et al as Admin here have stood by and watched while I have been doxxed here by fuqwit stalking retards who have as much regard for the personal privacy of Members as is demonstrated here at OzPol.  The offenders are allowed back, their aiders and enablers are still immune from action which should be taken.

If you are fair dinkum and want proof of that, unblock me and I'll PM it all to you.


Yes, because it's all about you, isn't it?  ::)

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:02pm
Does anyone have something they want to hide from Government?  What?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:06pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
Does anyone have something they want to hide from Government?  What?


What government? Are you now saying you implicitly trust not only our govt but every one in the world should follow your lead? Why do we never get any members from countries like China? Why no HongKong posts except for people outside? Not everything is about you as much as you might fantasise it is.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:11pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
Does anyone have something they want to hide from Government?  What?


What government? Are you now saying you implicitly trust not only our govt but every one in the world should follow your lead? Why do we never get any members from countries like China? Why no HongKong posts except for people outside? Not everything is about you as much as you might fantasise it is.


Probably because this place does not appear user friendly to them.

Give up on the 'Aussie bash.'  It is not a silver bullet.  Look elsewhere for that.

As for Governments spying on what a Member posts here, we have one Member who has made no secret of the fact that he lives in a 'repressive' Country which might will look at their posts in a very dim light.  They seem not to have any issue.



Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:17pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
Does anyone have something they want to hide from Government?  What?


What government? Are you now saying you implicitly trust not only our govt but every one in the world should follow your lead? Why do we never get any members from countries like China? Why no HongKong posts except for people outside? Not everything is about you as much as you might fantasise it is.


Probably because this place does not appear user friendly to them.

Give up on the 'Aussie bash.'  It is not a silver bullet.  Look elsewhere for that.

As for Governments spying on what a Member posts here, we have one Member who has made no secret of the fact that he lives in a 'repressive' Country which might will look at their posts in a very dim light.  They seem not to have any issue.


You arguing that traffic should not be encrypted whilst also admitting absolutely no knowledge in the subject, you should just give up. I'm starting to think you think it may hide some of your detractors, that is not the case. Anything that ends up here via HTTP or HTTPS is the same. It's just no-one can read what what sent from anywhere until it arrives and is unencrypted by the ozopl server.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.



It's there on almost every website.     ;D

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:27pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Are you saying that FD put all his Members in peril of having their bank details accessed before today when he did whatever voodoo it is called?  Is that your point, and if so, why were did you not alert Members to that danger you assert existed?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Gordon on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:29pm
I think this is as big a mystery to Aussie as a period party :)

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Don't bother getting back to me.  This is crap, and I have half a mind to nuke it.


Not understanding something does not make it crap.


Don't blame me for not understanding.  You smart arses use a language those who know nothing do not understand.  You do not even have the good grace to even pretend condescension.  You are pissing into the wind and all you are doing is being a peacock to FD et al on how clevah you are.  The rest of us do not have a clue. 




SSL, TLS, HTTP, HTTPS Explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hExRDVZHhig



PowerCert Animated Videos


HTTPS vs HTTP vs SSL / TLS.  This video explains the difference between these protocols.  It also explains how SSL works and what is an SSL certificate.


Too basic, I thought I may have learnt something.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:33pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:27pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Are you saying that FD put all his Members in peril of having their bank details accessed before today when he did whatever voodoo it is called?  Is that your point, and if so, why were did you not alert Members to that danger you assert existed?


No...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:33pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Why would you think that ?

Do you manage your Banking certificates ?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Why would you think that ?

Do you manage your Banking certificates ?


No, do you? Are you having to manage certificates here? Yet you are happy for your personal details to be transmitted in plain text because you find encryption too hard to manage. Boggles the mind.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:38pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:27pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Are you saying that FD put all his Members in peril of having their bank details accessed before today when he did whatever voodoo it is called?  Is that your point, and if so, why were did you not alert Members to that danger you assert existed?



Aussie,
encryption was brought in to keep banking operations
secret but then everyone else wanted to have secrets too -
it's called privacy.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:40pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Why would you think that ?

Do you manage your Banking certificates ?


No, do you? Are you having to manage certificates here? Yet you are happy for your personal details to be transmitted in plain text because you find encryption too hard to manage. Boggles the mind.


Bloody hell!!  Where are your priorities????  Before your very eyes, personal details have been posted here, and ???????  The perpetrators are still here.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:42pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Why would you think that ?

Do you manage your Banking certificates ?


No, do you? Are you having to manage certificates here? Yet you are happy for your personal details to be transmitted in plain text because you find encryption too hard to manage. Boggles the mind.


Bloody hell!!  Where are your priorities????  Before your very eyes, personal details have been posted here, and ???????  The perpetrators are still here.


Oh, shee-it. I was right in thinking you thought this was about you. This is not about you, piss off(waves red rag, Nothing to do with periods.).

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:47pm
Nope.  You get all airy fairy about a threat to Members Bank details being vulnerable.  There has been no evidence of that ever occurring.  On the other hand, there has been ample and overwhelming proof of doxxing going on here, and the perps are still here.

On another point you made.

I have invited many Members of a large overseas Forum to join here, and they all have said......'No thanks.'  And that had SFA to do with any concern about banking and Government spying.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:52pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:47pm:
Nope.  You get all airy fairy about a threat to Members Bank details being vulnerable.  There has been no evidence of that ever occurring.  On the other hand, there has been ample and overwhelming proof of doxxing going on here, and the perps are still here.

On another point you made.

I have invited many Members of a large overseas Forum to join here, and they all have said......'No thanks.'  And that had SFA to do with any concern about banking and Government spying.


You should quit while you are ahead when out of your depth Aussie. I'll give you a freebee on this, unless this site asks for your bank details and you then type them, it can't access them. I know! It's amazing! Even with encryption!

I'm guessing they don't want to come here because your arse is allowed to remain. Who would want to put up with you twice?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:56pm
I will never quit on exposing the real threat here and that is not spying by Government or anyone getting access to bank accounts.

Be happy and keep whistling Dixie, Setanta.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Gordon on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:58pm
Aussie, either you're taking the piss or senile.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 7th, 2021 at 8:03pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:58pm:
Aussie, either you're taking the piss or senile.



Or he's been drinking Monk's cooking sherry.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 8:05pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:56pm:
I will never quit on exposing the real threat here and that is not spying by Government or anyone getting access to bank accounts.

Be happy and keep whistling Dixie, Setanta.


Way to drive your car off the jetty! ;D

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 7th, 2021 at 8:35pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Why would you think that ?

Do you manage your Banking certificates ?


No, do you? Are you having to manage certificates here? Yet you are happy for your personal details to be transmitted in plain text because you find encryption too hard to manage. Boggles the mind.


You post personal details ?

How about I tell you that I have no problem with using certificates the question was do you like them. Damn miserable ugly looking things.



Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 7th, 2021 at 8:45pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 8:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

Quote:
Who doesn't like encryption?


Put me on the list.

Pain in the arse to try to manage.


So you don't do online banking?


Why would you think that ?

Do you manage your Banking certificates ?


No, do you? Are you having to manage certificates here? Yet you are happy for your personal details to be transmitted in plain text because you find encryption too hard to manage. Boggles the mind.


You post personal details ?

How about I tell you that I have no problem with using certificates the question was do you like them. Damn miserable ugly looking things.


Yes, I like them.

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 8th, 2021 at 12:57am

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
Does anyone have something they want to hide from Government?  What?


You're dead Ally-Robb...you're deeeeaaaaddd,

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Aussie on Feb 8th, 2021 at 8:35am

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 12:57am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
Does anyone have something they want to hide from Government?  What?


You're dead Ally-Robb...you're deeeeaaaaddd,


WTF?

Title: Re: Who doesn't like encryption?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 8th, 2021 at 9:10am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
dear Aussie,
watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7kEpw1tn50


and then I'll get back with some more videos.





numberphile
3.61M subscribers
Banks, Facebook, Twitter and Google use epic numbers - based on prime factors - to keep our Internet secrets. This is RSA public-key encryption.
More links & stuff in full description below ↓↓↓

Gold Vault: https://youtu.be/CTtf5s2HFkA​

This video features Dr James Grime (http://singingbanana.com/​). Message from James: "Thanks to Dr Chris Hughes of the University of York who showed me how to find the RSA public key from my browser, and showed me how awesome they look when you print them out."

Regarding the keys used for encryption:
x, y prime
Encode key E shares no factors with (x-1)(y-1)
Decode key is D with E*D - 1 a multiple of (x-1)(y-1)



Why doesn't Aussie thank me when I help him?    :'(

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