jobs gone, energy projects gone, overseas abortions paid for, more riots, china given control over US power, money given to useless overseas organisations.

What did I miss?



Quote:

Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of Policy, Economics and Regulatory Affairs at the American Petroleum Institute (API), said in an interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Saturday with host Matt Boyle that if President Joe Biden puts a permanent ban on oil and gas development on federal waters and land, it could cost 1 million American jobs. Boyle asked Macchiarola about the significance of Biden revoking the permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline and putting a 60-day pause on federal land leasing in his first days in office. “I think the first four days of the Biden Administration have given a clear picture of what the next four years could look like,” he said. “President Biden comes into office with a real economic headwind and a difficult labor market but at the same time he inherited an energy [landscape] that’s stronger because of America’s shale revolution.” “We’ve produced lower household energy costs as a result of U.S. energy and less reliance on foreign energy sources,” Macchiarola added. “The president has a choice to make: He can maintain U.S. leadership and maintain and support our economic recovery with American energy or he can pursue policies that destroy jobs and at the same time increase energy imports,” he further asserted. “The first few days should concern all Americans because the administration is clearly taking actions that are going to harm the economy and cost Americans jobs,” Macchiarola said. As Breitbart News reported, shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline will cost 11,000 jobs directly and as many as 60,000 indirect jobs. The federal ban presents an even more staggering number, Macchiarola asserted. “The full scale ban of development on federal lands you can bet the impact could be up to a million jobs in the United States,” he said. The Keystone decision also affects our relationship with Canada and the U.S. economy. “Two of the major components of the inauguration address and of the priorities of the new administration, No. 1 is rebuilding alliances and No. 2 strengthening our economy,” Macchiarola said. “With this decision that heads in the opposite direction on both of those priorities.” It could also cost the U.S. $2 billion in wages, he said. Macchiarola also spoke to the potential for Biden’s policies to endanger U.S. energy independence. “This shale revolution has unlocked resources that we never thought we’d be able to get to and that’s meant more jobs in the United States, lower energy costs and greater energy security,” Macchiarola said. “For the first time in 2019 in 67 years [the U.S.] became a net exporter of energy rather than a net importer,” he noted. “That’s a huge deal. And abandoning federal leasing heads in a different direction.” For example, federal land and waters accounted for 22 percent of oil production and 12 percent of natural gas production in 2019. “That’s the difference between energy independence and energy security and reliance on foreign sources,” Macchiarola said. He cited the irony of Biden’s nomination of Rep. Deb Haaland (D-NM) to serve as secretary of the Department of the Interior. Half of the energy produced in New Mexico comes from federal land and two thirds of the natural gas in the state comes from federal land. API produced a study last year that showed a federal land ban could cost up to 5 percent of all jobs in the state. “These decisions are sweeping,” Macchiarola said. “They’re broad and they will really have negative impacts on our economy and our labor market at really the worst possible time.” “If [Biden’s] priority is to bring back jobs in the United States and to grow our economy then they really need to rethink these policies, particularly the policy with respect to a leasing bans on federal lands for oil and gas development.”

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2021/01/24/expert-biden-actions-against-american-oil-gas-energy-production-could-kill-many-1-million-jobs/

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

jobs gone, energy projects gone, overseas abortions paid for, more riots, china given control over US power, money given to useless overseas organisations. What did I miss?

Well, you forgot to mention that it's all the last President's fault.

I'm sure it was an innocent mistake though  ;)

100,000 AMERICAN WORKERS FIRED BY JOE BIDEN ON DAY ONE

10,500 working on the border wall... fired . 20,000 Keystone Pipeline
Support workers for these projects 25,000
31,200 more pipe-fitter jobs were due to start on the Keystone Pipeline.


Looks like the honeymoon is already over.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

100,000 AMERICAN WORKERS FIRED BY JOE BIDEN ON DAY ONE 10,500 working on the border wall... fired . 20,000 Keystone Pipeline Support workers for these projects 25,000 31,200 more pipe-fitter jobs were due to start on the Keystone Pipeline. Looks like the honeymoon is already over.

Did you cry for the unemployed workers when construction stopped on concentration camps in WWII Poland, Bobby?

Wonderfully unbiased source Sprinty used.

What is the cost of the oil to be sent through the XL pipeline? Dearer than normal oil?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 3:54pm:

Wonderfully unbiased source Sprinty used. What is the cost of the oil to be sent through the XL pipeline? Dearer than normal oil?

Wouldn't that make it uneconomic? What is the cost sending it via Warren Buffets railroad?

Shouldn't the market rather than politics decide?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 3:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:44pm: 100,000 AMERICAN WORKERS FIRED BY JOE BIDEN ON DAY ONE 10,500 working on the border wall... fired . 20,000 Keystone Pipeline Support workers for these projects 25,000 31,200 more pipe-fitter jobs were due to start on the Keystone Pipeline. Looks like the honeymoon is already over. Did you cry for the unemployed workers when construction stopped on concentration camps in WWII Poland, Bobby?

Pecca,
This forum could do without your smart arse comments.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:51pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:44pm: 100,000 AMERICAN WORKERS FIRED BY JOE BIDEN ON DAY ONE 10,500 working on the border wall... fired . 20,000 Keystone Pipeline Support workers for these projects 25,000 31,200 more pipe-fitter jobs were due to start on the Keystone Pipeline. Looks like the honeymoon is already over. Did you cry for the unemployed workers when construction stopped on concentration camps in WWII Poland, Bobby? Pecca, This forum could do without your smart arse comments.

It was a question, not a comment.

So, did you cry for the unemployed workers when construction stopped on concentration camps in Poland during WWII?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

jobs gone, energy projects gone, overseas abortions paid for, more riots, china given control over US power, money given to useless overseas organisations. What did I miss?

Ah - made the US less safe.

Opened the borders to illegals, ordered ICE to release all those being held.

I have not seen more damage in such a short time.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:06pm:

So, did you cry for the unemployed workers when construction stopped on concentration camps in Poland during WWII?

According to his age profile ---No. He wasn't born yet. ::)

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:06pm: So, did you cry for the unemployed workers when construction stopped on concentration camps in Poland during WWII? According to his age profile ---No. He wasn't born yet. ::)

Greggy uses fallacies in his arguments but
an educated person like me is not fooled by it:

Reductio ad Hitlerum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

Reductio ad Hitlerum (/ˈhɪtlərəm/; Latin for "reduction to Hitler"), also known as playing the Nazi card,[1][2] is an attempt to invalidate someone else's position on the basis that the same view was held by Adolf Hitler or the Nazi Party.[3] One example would be that since Hitler was against smoking, this implies that someone who is against smoking is a Nazi.[4]

What a pity for the trumpidiots that renewables, even with trump trying to hamstring them, still provided more than thrice the number of new jobs than fossil fuels during trumps term

now that Biden has released the shackles put on renewables by Trump that figure will jump up.


https://morningconsult.com/2020/10/30/renewables-fossil-fuels-jobs-election/

on a lighter note..

its just as important though

President Joe Biden went to Mass with his family Sunday but stopped the presidential motorcade on the way home so that his son Hunter Biden could make a bagel run.

The motorcade stopped for about nine minutes on the way home from church in Georgetown, according to the press pool, as Hunter Biden went to the window of the bagel shop “Call Your Mother” to pick up a takeout order.

President Joe Biden remained in the motorcade with Hunter’s daughters Finnegan and Maisy for the duration of the bagel run.

Biden’s coronavirus response director Jeff Zients is a major investor in the deli, according to The Atlantic’s Edward-Isaac Dovere.


:) :) :) :)

I agree cods ...the shame


he should have stopped at mcdonalds


:D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:22pm:

What a pity for the trumpidiots that renewables, even with trump trying to hamstring them, still provided more than thrice the number of new jobs than fossil fuels during trumps term

I would like to see their methodology. What do they consider fossil fuel jobs? Just the oil rig workers/miners or all of the downstream stuff like petrol stations, power plant workers etc. All part of fossil fuel. ;)

I am guessing that renewables workers include the downstream stuff.

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:32pm:

I would like to see their methodology.

but not the methodology for the numbers that Sprint is touting?

Not that you're biased at all  ::) ::)

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:34pm:

Not that you're biased at all

I didn't respond to Sprint.  ;) But what number where? ;)

But more on your piece -

"Recent figures show renewable energy employs about 850,000 people in the U.S. (not including some 2.3 million jobs in energy efficiency), as compared to a little more than 1 million in traditional oil, gas and coal. But most of the future job growth is projected to come from clean energy sources."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/renewable-energy-jobs-replacing-fossil-fuel-jobs-oil-wind/

So not just in renewable energy because the piece you quoted said 3.36 million. ;)

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:30pm:

I agree cods ...the shame he should have stopped at mcdonalds :D :D :D

my immediate thought was... HUNTER is n charge.. no one even the Pres would dare say WAIT TILL YOU GET HOME..

I wonder why?...but you carry on smirking

More on fossil fuel jobs -

"Based on a comprehensive analysis of employer data collected in the fourth quarter of 2018, the 2019 USEER finds that the Traditional Energy and Energy Efficiency sectors in 2018 employed approximately 6.7 million Americans out of a workforce of approximately 147 million. "

https://www.usenergyjobs.org/2019-report

Cancelling the Keystone XL Pipeline was an election commitment from Biden....The OP was written by the Petroleum institute for their own vested interest....No mention of the environmental impact or the land that would have been claimed if this project went through....Biden is President and he told everyone this would happen if he won the election....This should not be a surprise to anyone and Biden was up front about shutting down the pipeline during the election campaign....Republicans lost the election and cannot block Biden from doing what he promised....Hypocrites!!!

::) ::) ::)

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-kills-keystone-xl-pipeline-permit-460555

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 5:08pm:

.No mention of the environmental impact or the land that would have been claimed if this project went through.

No mention of the environmental damage from oil spills from Warren Buffet's railroad when the inevitable occurs.

do you think Joey has already ordered his  motorcade FLEET to be electric ?? I am sure he has,,,its the first thing he should do...mrs 1st and second lady can have electric bicycles    its what all good leader do isnt it?..

also while I am here   do you think he should give the underprivileged  those minority groups  a BIG discount on electric cars....if oil is so bad    its a good idea to get a hurry on with these lego cars.

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 5:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 5:08pm: .No mention of the environmental impact or the land that would have been claimed if this project went through. No mention of the environmental damage from oil spills from Warren Buffet's railroad when the inevitable occurs.

Agreed....They should cut oil production and subsidise electric vehicles and charging stations as well as promoting more renewable energy into the market....A win win for the environment and consumers!!!

:) :) :)

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 5:59pm:

Agreed....They should cut oil production and subsidise electric vehicles and charging stations as well as promoting more renewable energy into the market....A win win for the environment and consumers!!!

Ah using that new super fuel Unobtainium?

Where is this power generation for the millions of EV's coming from? It ain't solar. And it ain't wind. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 5:59pm: Agreed....They should cut oil production and subsidise electric vehicles and charging stations as well as promoting more renewable energy into the market....A win win for the environment and consumers!!! Ah using that new super fuel Unobtainium? Where is this power generation for the millions of EV's coming from? It ain't solar. And it ain't wind. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Only Thorium can save our planet:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1519823686/0#0

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:30pm: I agree cods ...the shame he should have stopped at mcdonalds :D :D :D my immediate thought was... HUNTER is n charge.. no one even the Pres would dare say WAIT TILL YOU GET HOME.. I wonder why?...but you carry on smirking

So you think if my kids are hungry and I agree to get them something that means they're in charge?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

dam ell ... I'd hate to be your kid

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:49pm:

I didn't respond to Sprint.

obviously because you're not biased



lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:49pm:

;) But what number where? ;)

the numbers in the OP will do for starters.

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 6:41pm:

cods wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:53pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:30pm: I agree cods ...the shame he should have stopped at mcdonalds :D :D :D my immediate thought was... HUNTER is n charge.. no one even the Pres would dare say WAIT TILL YOU GET HOME.. I wonder why?...but you carry on smirking So you think if my kids are hungry and I agree to get them something that means they're in charge?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D dam ell ... I'd hate to be your kid

i would hate to have been responsible for your upbringing...

HUNTER IS 50..

how long do you expect to be obeying your kids commands..  jump daddy jump >:( >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 6:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 6:41pm: cods wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:53pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:30pm: I agree cods ...the shame he should have stopped at mcdonalds :D :D :D my immediate thought was... HUNTER is n charge.. no one even the Pres would dare say WAIT TILL YOU GET HOME.. I wonder why?...but you carry on smirking So you think if my kids are hungry and I agree to get them something that means they're in charge?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D dam ell ... I'd hate to be your kid i would hate to have been responsible for your upbringing... HUNTER IS 50.. how long do you expect to be obeying your kids commands..  jump daddy jump >:( >:( >:( >:(

Doesn't matter how old he is. He's in the car with him and they were driving past anyway. If he wanted a bagel why shouldn't he stop and get one? The stupidity you come up with to try and criticise Biden

Do you stop doing things for your kids because they're not under 16 anymore?

   go away   its been great without you here.. >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

go away   its been great without you here.. >:( >:( >:(

it'd be better if you went away.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

jobs gone, energy projects gone, overseas abortions paid for, more riots, china given control over US power, money given to useless overseas organisations. What did I miss? Quote: Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of Policy, Economics and Regulatory Affairs at the American Petroleum Institute (API), said in an interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Saturday with host Matt Boyle that if President Joe Biden puts a permanent ban on oil and gas development on federal waters and land, it could cost 1 million American jobs. Boyle asked Macchiarola about the significance of Biden revoking the permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline and putting a 60-day pause on federal land leasing in his first days in office. “I think the first four days of the Biden Administration have given a clear picture of what the next four years could look like,” he said. “President Biden comes into office with a real economic headwind and a difficult labor market but at the same time he inherited an energy [landscape] that’s stronger because of America’s shale revolution.” “We’ve produced lower household energy costs as a result of U.S. energy and less reliance on foreign energy sources,” Macchiarola added. “The president has a choice to make: He can maintain U.S. leadership and maintain and support our economic recovery with American energy or he can pursue policies that destroy jobs and at the same time increase energy imports,” he further asserted. “The first few days should concern all Americans because the administration is clearly taking actions that are going to harm the economy and cost Americans jobs,” Macchiarola said. As Breitbart News reported, shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline will cost 11,000 jobs directly and as many as 60,000 indirect jobs. The federal ban presents an even more staggering number, Macchiarola asserted. “The full scale ban of development on federal lands you can bet the impact could be up to a million jobs in the United States,” he said. The Keystone decision also affects our relationship with Canada and the U.S. economy. “Two of the major components of the inauguration address and of the priorities of the new administration, No. 1 is rebuilding alliances and No. 2 strengthening our economy,” Macchiarola said. “With this decision that heads in the opposite direction on both of those priorities.” It could also cost the U.S. $2 billion in wages, he said. Macchiarola also spoke to the potential for Biden’s policies to endanger U.S. energy independence. “This shale revolution has unlocked resources that we never thought we’d be able to get to and that’s meant more jobs in the United States, lower energy costs and greater energy security,” Macchiarola said. “For the first time in 2019 in 67 years [the U.S.] became a net exporter of energy rather than a net importer,” he noted. “That’s a huge deal. And abandoning federal leasing heads in a different direction.” For example, federal land and waters accounted for 22 percent of oil production and 12 percent of natural gas production in 2019. “That’s the difference between energy independence and energy security and reliance on foreign sources,” Macchiarola said. He cited the irony of Biden’s nomination of Rep. Deb Haaland (D-NM) to serve as secretary of the Department of the Interior. Half of the energy produced in New Mexico comes from federal land and two thirds of the natural gas in the state comes from federal land. API produced a study last year that showed a federal land ban could cost up to 5 percent of all jobs in the state. “These decisions are sweeping,” Macchiarola said. “They’re broad and they will really have negative impacts on our economy and our labor market at really the worst possible time.” “If [Biden’s] priority is to bring back jobs in the United States and to grow our economy then they really need to rethink these policies, particularly the policy with respect to a leasing bans on federal lands for oil and gas development.” https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2021/01/24/expert-biden-actions-against-american-oil-gas-energy-production-could-kill-many-1-million-jobs/

You missed the past four years, dear, that's all.

29 tril government debt, factory closures, jobs lost to Chi-na, Kim and Iran developing nukes, Chi-na killing America in trade and Putin laughing at the US as he hacks into its entire government network in broad daylight.

I left out the part about the 400,000 deaths and an economy in major recession because that's all a hoax, but you get the idea.

We will make America great again, no?

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 4:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:54pm: Wonderfully unbiased source Sprinty used. What is the cost of the oil to be sent through the XL pipeline? Dearer than normal oil? Wouldn't that make it uneconomic? What is the cost sending it via Warren Buffets railroad? Shouldn't the market rather than politics decide?

This oil is very expensive to produce and delivers more environmental damage than any other method.

Trump was the only politician on either side who was willing to allow it to go ahead.

Of course. Sounds like a last-grasp fuel.

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 6:43pm:

lee wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:49pm: I didn't respond to Sprint. obviously because you're not biased

Lee's not biased, JS.

Lee never gave up every principle he once held by shamelessly defending the most corrupt and incompetent administration the US has ever had, oh no.

Lee's no Trump-man. He just stands up for honesty and integrity, no?

Joe Biden should give Hunter a job with a security detail let alone free bagels....The Precedent has been set???

;D ;D ;D

Dnarever wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

lee wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:03pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:54pm: Wonderfully unbiased source Sprinty used. What is the cost of the oil to be sent through the XL pipeline? Dearer than normal oil? Wouldn't that make it uneconomic? What is the cost sending it via Warren Buffets railroad? Shouldn't the market rather than politics decide? This oil is very expensive to produce and delivers more environmental damage than any other method. Trump was the only politician on either side who was willing to allow it to go ahead.

Let's be fair, Dnarever. Let's at least give Mr Trump's side here.

Mr Trump only allows them to use clean oil and coal. He loves clean air and water. Nobody likes the environment more than Mr Trump, you know, everybody's saying that.

That's pretty much everything he's said on the matter.

Oh, any objections, and he might say, "come on..." or "that's fake news and you know it", or "that's no way to speak to your president".

If you persist, no worries. Mr Trump just walks out.

How's Sleepy Joe going to compete with that?

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:29pm:

Mr Trump only allows them to use clean oil and coal.

When did he invent them?

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 6:43pm: lee wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:49pm: I didn't respond to Sprint. obviously because you're not biased Lee's not biased, JS. Lee never gave up every principle he once held by shamelessly defending the most corrupt and incompetent administration the US has ever had, oh no. Lee's no Trump-man. He just stands up for honesty and integrity, no?

I've never seen so much denial by such a staunch supporter before .. ever ... for any politician

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 7:29pm: Mr Trump only allows them to use clean oil and coal. When did he invent them?

The scientists or the PR strategists?

Look, Mr Trump just knows stuff, okay? It runs in the family. He had an uncle at MIT, some hotshot scientist.

Mr Trump could have studied medicine at college - he had the grades. He chose to become a property developer instead.

He wanted to help people, you see.

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 6:43pm:

the numbers in the OP will do for starters.

Oh so Sprint didn't tout them the OP touted them. So these new fossil fuel sources would not need more workers? They would just shut their wells etc and move the workforce; no matter what life they had left? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Too dumb. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:51pm:

Oh so Sprint didn't tout them the OP touted them.

Like me sprint put up a link. I didn't 'tout' any numbers ... but you're not biased are you? ;D ;D

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

Lee's not biased, JS.

Poor old Karney. Just doesn't get it. I have nowhere endorsed Trump. I have even askeed you to quote me; but it is just "too difficult", it is FD "lousy search engine" and multiple other thing. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

Like me sprint put up a link. I didn't 'tout' any numbers .

yes Sprint put the OP up. Now if you have trouble with those numbers show us. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You mean you didn't tout numbers for renewables as opposed to fossil fuels? Liar.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

lee wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:03pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:54pm: Wonderfully unbiased source Sprinty used. What is the cost of the oil to be sent through the XL pipeline? Dearer than normal oil? Wouldn't that make it uneconomic? What is the cost sending it via Warren Buffets railroad? Shouldn't the market rather than politics decide? This oil is very expensive to produce and delivers more environmental damage than any other method. Trump was the only politician on either side who was willing to allow it to go ahead.

We can thank this oil for the reduction in price per barrel without it we would be paying over $100 a barrel. Amazing what a bit of competition does it results in Arabs dropping their price.

When the competition is wiped out the Arabs will increase their oil prices.

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 7:53pm: Like me sprint put up a link. I didn't 'tout' any numbers . yes Sprint put the OP up. Now if you have trouble with those numbers show us. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You mean you didn't tout numbers for renewables as opposed to fossil fuels? Liar.

and yet you asked for the methodology used to get the numbers in my link, whilst not interested in methodology in Sprints. Face it, you're a shill.
Stop pretending you're not because no one buys it. You've shown your hypocrisy to many times for your neutrality to be even plausible.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

This oil is very expensive to produce and delivers more environmental damage than any other method.

Link?


Dnarever wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

Trump was the only politician on either side who was willing to allow it to go ahead.

Oh the truthful one. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

"The nine Senate Democrats who support the Keystone XL pipeline"

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-nine-senate-democrats-who-support-the-keystone-xl-pipeline-msna719096

   

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 8:00pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 7:15pm: lee wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:03pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:54pm: Wonderfully unbiased source Sprinty used. What is the cost of the oil to be sent through the XL pipeline? Dearer than normal oil? Wouldn't that make it uneconomic? What is the cost sending it via Warren Buffets railroad? Shouldn't the market rather than politics decide? This oil is very expensive to produce and delivers more environmental damage than any other method. Trump was the only politician on either side who was willing to allow it to go ahead. We can thank this oil for the reduction in price per barrel without it we would be paying over $100 a barrel. Amazing what a bit of competition does it results in Arabs dropping their price. When the competition is wiped out the Arabs will increase their oil prices.

' .............  When the competition is wiped out the Arabs will increase their oil prices. ............. '

The laws of Supply and demand apply.

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 8:02pm:

nd yet you asked for the methodology used to get the numbers in my link, whilst not interested in methodology in Sprints.

I did. And then I did your homework for you and showed how distorted your figures were.

I can't answer questions about future actions. I am not, unlike you, a NostraDumbArse. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 8:05pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 8:00pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 7:15pm: lee wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 4:03pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 3:54pm: Wonderfully unbiased source Sprinty used. What is the cost of the oil to be sent through the XL pipeline? Dearer than normal oil? Wouldn't that make it uneconomic? What is the cost sending it via Warren Buffets railroad? Shouldn't the market rather than politics decide? This oil is very expensive to produce and delivers more environmental damage than any other method. Trump was the only politician on either side who was willing to allow it to go ahead. We can thank this oil for the reduction in price per barrel without it we would be paying over $100 a barrel. Amazing what a bit of competition does it results in Arabs dropping their price. When the competition is wiped out the Arabs will increase their oil prices. ' .............  When the competition is wiped out the Arabs will increase their oil prices. ............. ' The laws of Supply and demand apply.

Amazing what a bit of competition does to oil price.

How is that renewable rubbish working in Democrat controlled California?

---

and he is back at war. killing other people.


Quote:

..........  A large convoy of U.S. military personnel headed into Syria on Thursday along with hundreds of troops some 24 hours after President Joe Biden took office and took on his commander-in-chief role, foreign media reported. Citing Syrian state news agency SANA, i24 News reported that a convoy of about 40 trucks and armored vehicles “entered northeastern Syria” on Thursday supported by helicopters. A large convoy of U.S. military personnel headed into Syria on Thursday along with hundreds of troops some 24 hours after President Joe Biden took office and took on his commander-in-chief role, foreign media reported. Citing Syrian state news agency SANA, i24 News reported that a convoy of about 40 trucks and armored vehicles “entered northeastern Syria” on Thursday supported by helicopters. And while “other local media” noted that such resupply convoys are not uncommon, SANA’s report added that an additional 200 U.S. troops were choppered into the Hasakeh province as well. The report claimed that the additional troops will deploy to protect nearby oilfields on land that buttresses Kurdish-controlled territory in eastern Syria that is also said to be rich in energy resources.        ........

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/just-like-good-old-days-joe-biden-invades-syria-convoy-us-troops-choppers-first-full-day-president/?fbclid=IwAR0JHEMBwEz9pHZe-n2X20vMSKwnd8WYlUOJHabPcX8hdR0NyTlaVygjvG8

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 8:14pm:

and he is back at war. killing other people. Quote: ..........  A large convoy of U.S. military personnel headed into Syria on Thursday along with hundreds of troops some 24 hours after President Joe Biden took office and took on his commander-in-chief role, foreign media reported. Citing Syrian state news agency SANA, i24 News reported that a convoy of about 40 trucks and armored vehicles “entered northeastern Syria” on Thursday supported by helicopters. A large convoy of U.S. military personnel headed into Syria on Thursday along with hundreds of troops some 24 hours after President Joe Biden took office and took on his commander-in-chief role, foreign media reported. Citing Syrian state news agency SANA, i24 News reported that a convoy of about 40 trucks and armored vehicles “entered northeastern Syria” on Thursday supported by helicopters. And while “other local media” noted that such resupply convoys are not uncommon, SANA’s report added that an additional 200 U.S. troops were choppered into the Hasakeh province as well. The report claimed that the additional troops will deploy to protect nearby oilfields on land that buttresses Kurdish-controlled territory in eastern Syria that is also said to be rich in energy resources.        ........ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/just-like-good-old-days-joe-biden-invades-syria-convoy-us-troops-choppers-first-full-day-president/?fbclid=IwAR0JHEMBwEz9pHZe-n2X20vMSKwnd8WYlUOJHabPcX8hdR0NyTlaVygjvG8

Why is the US going back into Syria does Joe still want to get rid of Assad?

When Joe was VP slavery returned to Syria after the US armed all the radical Jihadis trying to overthrow Assad, most of the people Joe, Obama and Hillary supported and financed defected to the Islamic state.

Assad and his father don't support the devout sunnis what did Reagan do when Assads father whacked the muslim brothelhood in 1982?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Hama_massacre

Syria was never really a problem until Joe Hillary and Obama fukked it up.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:

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Surely not?

I am buying shares in Asia.
Could well short the greenback

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:

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those tax rate changes are scary.
I doubt they are true, but it will affect the globe

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:

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https://taxfoundation.org/joe-biden-tax-plan-2020/


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............    Gross Domestic Product (GDP) -1.62% Capital Stock -3.75%  Full-time Equivalent Jobs  -542,000 ................

you can see why my alarms bells went riot

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 9:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 9:17pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/063/166/283/original/ec17bf432bb5afa1.jpg Surely not? I am buying shares in Asia. Could well short the greenback

Just as the Roman empire fell we
now see the fall of the US empire.

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 8:08pm:

I did.

the only thing you did was highlight your bias


lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 8:08pm:

And then I did your homework for you and showed how distorted your figures were.

and yet you were happy to accept the  figures in the OP without looking at the methodology  ...

Not that you're biased or anything :D :D :D

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 7:54pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 7:23pm: Lee's not biased, JS. Poor old Karney. Just doesn't get it. I have nowhere endorsed Trump. I have even askeed you to quote me; but it is just "too difficult", it is FD "lousy search engine" and multiple other thing. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's a hoot, Lee, but I'm curious. What do you have against Mr Trump?

You haven't said.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 9:57pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 9:23pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 9:17pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/063/166/283/original/ec17bf432bb5afa1.jpg Surely not? I am buying shares in Asia. Could well short the greenback Just as the Roman empire fell we now see the fall of the US empire.

I am afraid so.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2021 at 5:08pm:

Cancelling the Keystone XL Pipeline was an election commitment from Biden....The OP was written by the Petroleum institute for their own vested interest....No mention of the environmental impact or the land that would have been claimed if this project went through....Biden is President and he told everyone this would happen if he won the election....This should not be a surprise to anyone and Biden was up front about shutting down the pipeline during the election campaign....Republicans lost the election and cannot block Biden from doing what he promised....Hypocrites!!! ::) ::) ::) https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-kills-keystone-xl-pipeline-permit-460555

Biden kills Keystone XL permit, again

Educate yourselves dickheads???

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-kills-keystone-xl-pipeline-permit-460555

CHINA has more CLOUT now because Trump walked America off the world stage. Meanwhile, Biden is signing a "Made in America" executive order.

Remember how Obama's executive orders were the end of the world and Donald campaigned against them? So laf.

Reading this thread, i'd say Biden has hit the ground running.

Very encouraging.

hes following in Obamas footsteps    back to the future ::)

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 8:42am:

Reading this thread, i'd say Biden has hit the ground running. Very encouraging.

Indeed.

Very, very encouraging.

And so far, not a single disabled person mocked on TV.

AiA wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 5:01am:

CHINA has more CLOUT now because Trump walked America off the world stage. Meanwhile, Biden is signing a "Made in America" executive order. Remember how Obama's executive orders were the end of the world and Donald campaigned against them? So laf.

Great news


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.........  President Biden on Monday signed an executive order aimed at forcing the federal government to buy more goods produced in the United States, a key part of his campaign pledge to revive domestic manufacturing. Standing in front of a blue backdrop reading “The Future Will Be Made in America,” the president said he was directing regulators to tighten the definition of American-made products and creating a position in the Office of Management and Budget to oversee stepped-up purchases of domestic goods.      .........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/01/25/biden-buy-american-rules/

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 8:42am:

Reading this thread, i'd say Biden has hit the ground running.

But which way?

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 8:42am:

Reading this thread, i'd say Biden has hit the ground running. Very encouraging.

He sure did:

Biden Executive Orders:
1. Amnesty to illegal aliens: Will cost 4 million American jobs
2. Cancellation of the pipeline: 1 million jobs
3. $15/hour min wage 2 million job
4. Increases to existing gas taxes 1 million jobs
5. Biden will increase the debt to over $30 trillion 1 million jobs
6. Increase all regulations on businesses 2 million jobs
7. End Fracking and purchase Middle East oil 1 million jobs
8. Green New Deal 6 million jobs
9. Massive environmental Regulations 2 million jobs
10. Massive tax increase to all Americans 1 million jobs
The Obama/Biden administration failed to manage our economy when they were in office. Now Biden has another chance to finish what they started. In his first 100 days in office he will kill 21 million jobs. If you voted for Biden, hope you are happy with your decision?

Never underestimate Joe's ability to eff things up.

-Barack Obama

Accusations of child rape (including physical assault and threats to kill the child and/or her parents):

Trump - at least one (documents lodged in a New York court).

Biden - none.

Tell me again why you support Trump   :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 11:09pm:

Accusations of child rape (including physical assault and threats to kill the child and/or her parents): Trump - at least one (documents lodged in a New York court). Biden - none. Tell me again why you support Trump   :-/

You just will not look hard enough, Tara Reed and his own daughter show that to be a lie!

I'm sure it never occurred to you that people who are fabulously wealthy are accused by opportunists of anything that will give them a huge payday!

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 10:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 8:42am: Reading this thread, i'd say Biden has hit the ground running. Very encouraging. He sure did: Biden Executive Orders: 1. Amnesty to illegal aliens: Will cost 4 million American jobs 2. Cancellation of the pipeline: 1 million jobs 3. $15/hour min wage 2 million job 4. Increases to existing gas taxes 1 million jobs 5. Biden will increase the debt to over $30 trillion 1 million jobs 6. Increase all regulations on businesses 2 million jobs 7. End Fracking and purchase Middle East oil 1 million jobs 8. Green New Deal 6 million jobs 9. Massive environmental Regulations 2 million jobs 10. Massive tax increase to all Americans 1 million jobs The Obama/Biden administration failed to manage our economy when they were in office. Now Biden has another chance to finish what they started. In his first 100 days in office he will kill 21 million jobs. If you voted for Biden, hope you are happy with your decision? Never underestimate Joe's ability to eff things up. -Barack Obama

And increased taxes on businesses.

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 11:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 11:09pm: Accusations of child rape (including physical assault and threats to kill the child and/or her parents): Trump - at least one (documents lodged in a New York court). Biden - none. Tell me again why you support Trump   :-/ You just will not look hard enough, Tara Reed and his own daughter show that to be a lie! I'm sure it never occurred to you that people who are fabulously wealthy are accused by opportunists of anything that will give them a huge payday!

Not a lie at all.

T**** is an alleged child rapist.

Undeniable fact.

"New Mexico Officials Taken Aback By Biden Assault On Oil And Gas
David Blackmon
Senior Contributor
Energy

Officials in the state of New Mexico professed to be taken aback last week by President Joe Biden’s day-one decision to impose a 60-day moratorium on all oil and gas-related leasing and permitting actions on federal lands. It is a decision that will have major ramifications on the state budgets of New Mexico and other Western states, especially if it is extended beyond its initial term and backed up by Biden’s promised ban on hydraulic fracturing on federal lands.

A little more than 2 years ago, in September, 2018, I wrote about the half-billion dollar windfall the State of New Mexico had just received during the course of a single sale of oil and gas leases on federal lands in the state. Those federal leases lie in the segment of the Permian Basin that spills over from Texas into the southeastern portion of New Mexico, part of the Delaware Basin play area that has become the hottest oil play in North America since 2016.

Like other oil and gas-producing western states, vast swaths of lands in New Mexico are owned by the federal government…"

"Some New Mexico officials are now trying to defend themselves by saying they didn’t anticipate the new President would issue such a ban, but such protests ring rather hollow given that they most assuredly did understand that Biden plans to move ahead with his fracking ban, which would for all intents and purposes have the same effect."

"[T]he reality is that [New Mexico’s Democratic Governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham] and her administration can strive to “diversify” the state’s energy portfolio all they want, but the state will still lose hundreds of millions of dollars every year should the Biden administration succeed in shutting down her state’s oil and gas business.

To be clear: Neither the state nor the federal government collects any royalties on solar installations or wind farms. There is no severance tax to be collected from those alternative forms of energy with which to fund the state’s schools or hospitals, or to sustain the free in-state college tuition program Lujan herself established in 2019 thanks to New Mexico’s new Permian/Delaware Basin windfall."

"These are just some of the actual potential costs of the Biden assault on the New Mexico oil industry. They are the things that happen in the real world, as opposed to the fantasies pushed by many politicians."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2021/01/24/new-mexico-officials-taken-aback-by-biden-assault-on-oil-and-gas/?sh=4349b3b73db7

But back in 2019 -

"IPANM, Reuters & OilPrice.com (Nov. 1, 2019) – While IPANM would have serious concerns if a newly-elected President would seek a nationwide fracking ban, we are encouraged that New Mexico Governor Lujan Grisham recognizes the importance of fracking to sustain the state economy. The linked article below contains the following quotes from Gov. Lujan Grisham.

“Without the energy effort in this state, no one gets to make education the top priority,” said New Mexico Democratic Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham in Santa Fe on October 8. If Trump loses next year’s election, she said in a later interview, she would request the Democratic president provide her state a waiver exempting it from any drilling ban “to allow us to continue to produce in New Mexico.” "

https://ipanm.org/2019/11/01/governor-lujan-grisham-would-seek-fracking-ban-waiver-if-warren-or-sanders-elected/


Wow. She wants a waiver for her state. ::)

Judge blocks enforcement of 100-day deportation moratorium

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton declared victory on Twitter.

A federal judge has blocked enforcement of a 100-day deportation moratorium, issuing a temporary restraining order after the state of Texas lodged a lawsuit last week regarding a Department of Homeland Security memo that called for pausing most removals.

Acting Secretary of Homeland Security David Pekoske signed a memo instructing immigration authorities to direct attention towards national security and public safety risks and individuals caught coming into the nation unlawfully after Nov. 1, according to the Associated Press, which noted this represented a significant shift from the Trump-era policy that anybody in the nation unlawfully represented a removal priority.

The moratorium became active on Friday and encompassed almost all people who came to America without authorization prior to last November, according to the outlet.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton declared victory on Twitter: "Within 6 days of Biden's inauguration, Texas has HALTED his illegal deportation freeze. *This* was a seditious left-wing insurrection. And my team and I stopped it," the Lone Star State official wrote.

    VICTORY.Texas is the FIRST state in the nation to bring a lawsuit against the Biden Admin. AND WE WON.Within 6 days of Biden’s inauguration, Texas has HALTED his illegal deportation freeze. *This* was a seditious left-wing insurrection. And my team and I stopped it.— Attorney General Ken Paxton (@KenPaxtonTX) January 26, 2021

People will continue to find their way home as long as the law is followed. There is a right way and a wrong way to come here, follow the law and everything will be fine!

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2021 at 9:48pm:

Judge blocks enforcement of 100-day deportation moratorium Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton declared victory on Twitter. A federal judge has blocked enforcement of a 100-day deportation moratorium, issuing a temporary restraining order after the state of Texas lodged a lawsuit last week regarding a Department of Homeland Security memo that called for pausing most removals. Acting Secretary of Homeland Security David Pekoske signed a memo instructing immigration authorities to direct attention towards national security and public safety risks and individuals caught coming into the nation unlawfully after Nov. 1, according to the Associated Press, which noted this represented a significant shift from the Trump-era policy that anybody in the nation unlawfully represented a removal priority. The moratorium became active on Friday and encompassed almost all people who came to America without authorization prior to last November, according to the outlet. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton declared victory on Twitter: "Within 6 days of Biden's inauguration, Texas has HALTED his illegal deportation freeze. *This* was a seditious left-wing insurrection. And my team and I stopped it," the Lone Star State official wrote.     VICTORY.Texas is the FIRST state in the nation to bring a lawsuit against the Biden Admin. AND WE WON.Within 6 days of Biden’s inauguration, Texas has HALTED his illegal deportation freeze. *This* was a seditious left-wing insurrection. And my team and I stopped it.— Attorney General Ken Paxton (@KenPaxtonTX) January 26, 2021 People will continue to find their way home as long as the law is followed. There is a right way and a wrong way to come here, follow the law and everything will be fine!

thank goodness

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cods wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 10:19am:

hes following in Obamas footsteps    back to the future ::)

Not sure about 'following' cods, Nobama and the other criminal Hillary are without doubt pulling his strings.

"    Consistent with the goals of the President’s Build Back Better jobs and economic recovery plan, of which his clean energy jobs plan is a central pillar, the order directs the federal agencies to procure carbon pollution-free electricity and clean, zero-emission vehicles to create good-paying, union jobs and stimulate clean energy industries.
    In addition, the order requires those purchases be Made in America, following President Biden’s Buy American executive order. The order also directs agencies to apply and strictly enforce the prevailing wage and benefit guidelines of the Davis Bacon and other acts and encourage Project Labor Agreements. These actions reaffirm that agencies should work to ensure that any jobs created with funds to address the climate crisis are good jobs with a choice to join a union.
    The order directs each federal agency to develop a plan to increase the resilience of its facilities and operations to the impacts of climate change and directs relevant agencies to report on ways to expand and improve climate forecast capabilities – helping facilitate public access to climate related information and assisting governments, communities, and businesses in preparing for and adapting to the impacts of climate change.
    The order directs the Secretary of the Interior to pause on entering into new oil and natural gas leases on public lands or offshore waters to the extent possible, launch a rigorous review of all existing leasing and permitting practices related to fossil fuel development on public lands and waters, and identify steps that can be taken to double renewable energy production from offshore wind by 2030. The order does not restrict energy activities on lands that the United States holds in trust for Tribes. The Secretary of the Interior will continue to consult with Tribes regarding the development and management of renewable and conventional energy resources, in conformance with the U.S. government’s trust responsibilities.
    The order directs federal agencies to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies as consistent with applicable law and identify new opportunities to spur innovation, commercialization, and deployment of clean energy technologies and infrastructure.

Rebuild Our Infrastructure for a Sustainable Economy

    The order catalyzes the creation of jobs in construction, manufacturing, engineering and the skilled-trades by directing steps to ensure that every federal infrastructure investment reduces climate pollution and that steps are taken to accelerate clean energy and transmission projects under federal siting and permitting processes in an environmentally sustainable manner.

Advance Conservation, Agriculture, and Reforestation

    The order commits to the goal of conserving at least 30 percent of our lands and oceans by 2030 and launches a process for stakeholder engagement from agricultural and forest landowners, fishermen, Tribes, States, Territories, local officials, and others to identify strategies that will result in broad participation.
    The order also calls for the establishment of a Civilian Climate Corps Initiative to put a new generation of Americans to work conserving and restoring public lands and waters, increasing reforestation, increasing carbon sequestration in the agricultural sector, protecting biodiversity, improving access to recreation, and addressing the changing climate.
    The order directs the Secretary of Agriculture to collect input from farmers, ranchers, and other stakeholders on how to use federal programs to encourage adoption of climate-smart agricultural practices that produce verifiable carbon reductions and sequestrations and create new sources of income and jobs for rural Americans."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/01/27/fact-sheet-president-biden-takes-executive-actions-to-tackle-the-climate-crisis-at-home-and-abroad-create-jobs-and-restore-scientific-integrity-across-federal-government/

Well I guess the nuclear fleet will be ok but warplanes and tanks are a bust.

BUT.. the manufacturers of EV's will be delighted.

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 28^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 10:19am: hes following in Obamas footsteps    back to the future ::) Not sure about 'following' cods, Nobama and the other criminal Hillary are without doubt pulling his strings.

nanc isnt doing a bas job....he is pretending he doesnt know anything about the second impeachment.....

if at first you dont succeed try try try again....thats nancys motto.. ;) ;)

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 8:42am:

Reading this thread, i'd say Biden has hit the ground running. Very encouraging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqAcZOpdzrk

Who do you think is talking to Biden in that ear piece telling him what to say? "Salute the Marine" "I don't know what I am signing". When he lacks instructions he runs out of the room.

The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program.

Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state.

But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account?
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e

"Jennifer Granholm, President Joe Biden’s nominee to lead the U.S. Department of Energy, insisted Wednesday that “clean energy” jobs will replace those that “might be sacrificed.”

Granholm’s remarks came during questioning from Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY), who pointed out the significant loss of American jobs due to a long-term ban on oil, gas, and coal leasing and permitting on federal lands.

“A long-term ban on oil and gas leasing would cost 62,000 jobs in New Mexico, 33,000 jobs in Wyoming, and 18,000 jobs in Colorado,” Barrasso said to Granholm.

Asked how a ban would be “consistent” with Biden’s message of unity and job creation, Granholm said, “I think the president’s plan of building back better, which would create more jobs in energy, clean energy, than the jobs that might be sacrificed.”

“But I will say this, we don’t want to see any jobs sacrificed,” Granholm added, saying she must work together with “those states that have these jobs in abundance.”

Granholm also stated that the “licenses that currently are operating are not going to be disrupted,” saying that they will “continue to operate.” "

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/27/biden-energy-nominee-jennifer-granholm-clean-energy-jobs-will-replace-ones-that-might-be-sacrificed/

So these high paying green jobs - Are they available now BEFORE they reduce fossil fuelled jobs? If so why aren't more people leaving? Those put out of work lose homes. Those that are made homeless may react. And it won't be just Republicans hurt.

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:41am:

The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e

Both houses of Congress (sic), eh?

You mean like Dear Leader had, along with all those personally-appointed judges who, yes, held him to account by upholding the results of a free and transparent election?

Poor old Dear Leader, refrained from installing himself as Caesar. Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes.

There there. You join the Murdoch press and have a good old cry. After four years of your Dear Leader, you've earned it, no?

So unfair, innit.

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 12:53pm:

"Jennifer Granholm, President Joe Biden’s nominee to lead the U.S. Department of Energy, insisted Wednesday that “clean energy” jobs will replace those that “might be sacrificed.” Granholm’s remarks came during questioning from Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY), who pointed out the significant loss of American jobs due to a long-term ban on oil, gas, and coal leasing and permitting on federal lands. “A long-term ban on oil and gas leasing would cost 62,000 jobs in New Mexico, 33,000 jobs in Wyoming, and 18,000 jobs in Colorado,” Barrasso said to Granholm. Asked how a ban would be “consistent” with Biden’s message of unity and job creation, Granholm said, “I think the president’s plan of building back better, which would create more jobs in energy, clean energy, than the jobs that might be sacrificed.” “But I will say this, we don’t want to see any jobs sacrificed,” Granholm added, saying she must work together with “those states that have these jobs in abundance.” Granholm also stated that the “licenses that currently are operating are not going to be disrupted,” saying that they will “continue to operate.” " https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/27/biden-energy-nominee-jennifer-granholm-clean-energy-jobs-will-replace-ones-that-might-be-sacrificed/ So these high paying green jobs - Are they available now BEFORE they reduce fossil fuelled jobs? If so why aren't more people leaving? Those put out of work lose homes. Those that are made homeless may react. And it won't be just Republicans hurt.

That's true, Lee. Plenty of them voted for Sleepy Joe, no?

If they were listening, they'd have heard Sleepy Joe's not shutting down any current fossil fuel projects. He's denying new leases for fracking in national parks and on government land.

Still, there's a market for porkies, but do you know?

Putting Biden in the White House has just stopped a good, oh I don't know, 23.3 lies a day. Check it out:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/

There's now a president and a press secretary who come out each day to discuss things called facts. Uncanny, no? Journalists get to ask things called questions and get things called answers. Imagine, it doesn't even matter which publication or broadcaster they're from. Even CNN, CNBC, the Washington Post and New York Times get answers.

And no walk-outs. Biden hasn't walked off yet. No attacks on the lying, fake news media or anything.

I know how attentive you'll be, Lee, given your interest in the facts, but I do hope the leftards don't get too excited. It can't last forever. It won't take much - a school shooting, a wild weather event, a fiscal crisis. Someone's bound to discover Trump's debt, which will quickly become Biden's debt. It won't be long before Joe's telling the media to, like, come on, man...

They did it to Clinton, they did it to Obama, and they definitely did it to Hillary. Sure, Mr Trump's off Twitter for a bit, so there's no Trump re-tweets of Pizzagate stories or Michelle Obama being a man, but Biden's honeymoon can't last forever.

You're no Trump supporter, Lee, so you'll be pleased to see facts return to the White House, but I wouldn't get too used to it if I was you.

You watch, it won't take Tucker and Hannity and Judge Jeanine to start the on-air hissy fits going again. All Obama had to do was appear in a tan suit.

I know, I know, a tan suit? In the Oval Office? On a black man?

Ridiculous, but what do you expect?

They're leftards.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 5:54pm:

If they were listening, they'd have heard Sleepy Joe's not shutting down any current fossil fuel projects. He's denying new leases for fracking in national parks and on government land.

And the federal Government get the most of the lease fees. The states between 12% and 16%. Then there is the royalties. No new federal lands means no new federal taxes. The shortfall must be made up somewhere. And it is not just fracking it is new leases period.

"From my first post -

"Officials in the state of New Mexico professed to be taken aback last week by President Joe Biden’s day-one decision to impose a 60-day moratorium on all oil and gas-related leasing and permitting actions on federal lands. " "

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/

Nothing there about banning fracking or leasing. ;)



So I suppose you can show us where I am wrong? Or not.

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:54pm: If they were listening, they'd have heard Sleepy Joe's not shutting down any current fossil fuel projects. He's denying new leases for fracking in national parks and on government land. And the federal Government get the most of the lease fees. The states between 12% and 16%. Then there is the royalties. No new federal lands means no new federal taxes. The shortfall must be made up somewhere. And it is not just fracking it is new leases period. "From my first post - "Officials in the state of New Mexico professed to be taken aback last week by President Joe Biden’s day-one decision to impose a 60-day moratorium on all oil and gas-related leasing and permitting actions on federal lands. " " https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/ Nothing there about banning fracking or leasing. ;) So I suppose you can show us where I am wrong? Or not.

I don't have to show you where you're wrong, dear. I'm free to post whatever I feel.

You?

Quote:

Re: biden - less than a week in

Yes and hasn't he been going well.

All the MAGA tears are the give away.

Male, American, Gropers, Association.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

I'm free to post whatever I feel.

Of course petal. You always have. It doesn't need any truthfulness. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 6:38pm: I'm free to post whatever I feel. Of course petal. You always have. It doesn't need any truthfulness. ;)

No worries, we'll play truth or dare. Me first.

Why were you never a Trump supporter, dear? You havent said.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 7:56pm:

Why were you never a Trump supporter, dear? You havent said.

The same as I'm not a Biden supporter. ::)

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 7:58pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 7:56pm: Why were you never a Trump supporter, dear? You havent said. The same as I'm not a Biden supporter. ::)

Oh, I see. You're not American.

Very droll, dear.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 8:05pm:

Oh, I see. You're not American.

How very true. Perhaps I don't need to treat you like a computer. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 8:58pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 8:05pm: Oh, I see. You're not American. How very true. Perhaps I don't need to treat you like a computer. ;)

You most certainly should not.

Feel free to own up to your admiration and support for the worst prez the US has ever seen though. There's no need to quibble over whether you actually voted for him.

We know that, dear, just as we also know you get access to the Murdoch media in Western Australia.

If it helps, we sympathise. Don't we all?

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:30pm:

We know that, dear, just as we also know you get access to the Murdoch media in Western Australia.

Not in remote WA. Try again petal.

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:46pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:30pm: We know that, dear, just as we also know you get access to the Murdoch media in Western Australia. Not in remote WA. Try again petal.

Thanks for the clarification, dear. You don't have access to the Murdoch media in Western Australia.

Oh...

The West Australian is not Murdoch. ;)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 6:45pm:

Quote: Re: biden - less than a week in Yes and hasn't he been going well. All the MAGA tears are the give away. Male, American, Gropers, Association.

Have no fears - sweet Karamala will fix it all once Old White Joe collapses in the seat... and the democrats can have their 'statement' about the first non-white woman Prez.... then we can all go back to sleep - though Australia's experiment with that 'first woman PM' still echoes in the empty halls of integrity and virtue and the legacy lives on.... her party still cannot win an election no matter how unlosable.....

Trump Return in 2024....... once the American people realise that neither the Democrats nor the
Republicans can stop this vile Covid in its tracks no matter how much they carry on about it...

I'm surprised Old White Joe lasted that first week without falling into his coffin...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:58pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 6:45pm: Quote: Re: biden - less than a week in Yes and hasn't he been going well. All the MAGA tears are the give away. Male, American, Gropers, Association. Have no fears - sweet Karamala will fix it all once Old White Joe collapses in the seat... and the democrats can have their 'statement' about the first non-white woman Prez.... then we can all go back to sleep - though Australia's experiment with that 'first woman PM' still echoes in the empty halls of integrity and virtue and the legacy lives on.... her party still cannot win an election no matter how unlosable..... Trump Return in 2024....... once the American people realise that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans can stop this vile Covid in its tracks no matter how much they carry on about it... I'm surprised Old White Joe lasted that first week without falling into his coffin...

Dream on...

I suspect that - irrespective of what happens with the impeachment business - Trump's finished politically.

The Republicans have a big decision to make (assuming Trump is able to run again). Continue to "tie" their Party to "Brand Trump" (and all it stands for), or to move in a different direction. If they decide on the latter, they'll have no shortage of candidates jockeying for position...and THAT could have a major impact on the way people vote in the impeachment trial (which would probably spell curtains for Trump's political ambitions).

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes.

That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks.

They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 10:05am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate.

And here we have the old boy, devout Spectator reader, in his new role of Qanon propagandist.

Watch, as he remembers the great legal minds of the Trump era: Roger Stone, Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani.

Laugh, as he revisits Four Seasons Landscaping, Rudy's hair dye performance and other great moments in American democracy. Thrill, as he cheers on the Capitol riots. Cry, as he struggles to find a reason why, after everything the Donald said and did, the old boy still holds his Dear Leader in his heart.

But that's the old boy. Supported the invasion of Iraq to spread the love, saw the folly of his ways, and gave his heart to Dear Leader, celebrity property developer, ex-Miss Universe owner, star of the hit TV series the Apprentice, and finally, President of the United States of America.

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:58pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 6:45pm: Quote: Re: biden - less than a week in Yes and hasn't he been going well. All the MAGA tears are the give away. Male, American, Gropers, Association. Have no fears - sweet Karamala will fix it all once Old White Joe collapses in the seat... and the democrats can have their 'statement' about the first non-white woman Prez.... then we can all go back to sleep - though Australia's experiment with that 'first woman PM' still echoes in the empty halls of integrity and virtue and the legacy lives on.... her party still cannot win an election no matter how unlosable..... Trump Return in 2024....... once the American people realise that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans can stop this vile Covid in its tracks no matter how much they carry on about it... I'm surprised Old White Joe lasted that first week without falling into his coffin...

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Have no fears - sweet Karamala will fix it all once Old White Joe collapses in the seat

You are better than this, The Camala scare is among the dumbest scare campaigns that was run.


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Trump Return in 2024....... once the American people realise that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans can stop this vile Covid in its tracks

Nobody claimed to stop it in its tracks just to kill a few hundred thousand less.

Trump has gone any luck he will never return. His next term should come with a free orange jumpsuit and lovely striped pyjamas.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 10:05am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate.

Faked?   :o

Has someone told Rudy?   :-/

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 10:05am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate.

Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted.

The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 11:03am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:58pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 6:45pm: Quote: Re: biden - less than a week in Yes and hasn't he been going well. All the MAGA tears are the give away. Male, American, Gropers, Association. Have no fears - sweet Karamala will fix it all once Old White Joe collapses in the seat... and the democrats can have their 'statement' about the first non-white woman Prez.... then we can all go back to sleep - though Australia's experiment with that 'first woman PM' still echoes in the empty halls of integrity and virtue and the legacy lives on.... her party still cannot win an election no matter how unlosable..... Trump Return in 2024....... once the American people realise that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans can stop this vile Covid in its tracks no matter how much they carry on about it... I'm surprised Old White Joe lasted that first week without falling into his coffin... [quote]Have no fears - sweet Karamala will fix it all once Old White Joe collapses in the seat

You are better than this, The Camila scare is among the dumbest scare campaigns that was run.[/quote]

Sure, but it comes with a pseudonym, Karamala.

Cunning, no? Here we the use of onomatopoeia to merge the name Karmala with the sticky brown confection, caramel. It's a scare campaign that comes with a direct reference to Karmala's tintedness.

We also have the adjective sweet, used ironically to infer its opposite: someone tough, shrewd and calculating. It directly targets gender in an attempt to undermine femininity.

Put together, in two words, we have a scare campaign based solely on race and gender. The tottering, clueless incumbent, Sleepy Joe, and his ambitious offsider, Sweet Karamela, a not-quite-black woman (she's caramel), but hardly sweet. She's a ball-buster, she's bitter, and she's got power.

These two words describe everything Trump was tasked to defeat - the threat of Hillary, a ball-buster, and the legacy of Obama, a black man. In Sweet Karamela, we have both: the pants-suit and the tintedness. She represents everything Trump came to extinguish. Karmala Harris is the very embodiment of everything Trump supporters fear.

No, Dnarever, the Grappler is not better than that. He only supports Trump to rid the world of its Sweet Karamelas. It doesn't matter what Trump does - actively supports dictators, racks up 20 trillion in debt, presides over the highest covid toll in the world and incites his followers to storm his own government - Trump is the last white bastion against uppity tinted broads like Sweet Karamela.

It might be dumb, but it's one of the oldest scare campaigns in the book. Think of Sleepy Mark Anthony and Sweet Cleomelapatra - Julius Caesar used both in his own propaganda campaign to defeat Anthony and take control of the empire.

Like Trump, Julius Caesar is known for his own assault upon a republic. Caesar's failed too, but it didn't take long to do away with elected representatives and usher in the Dark Ages of Western Civilization.

Sweet Karamela has a similar purpose, a use of onomatopoeia that captures just how close we are to losing the lot.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 11:17am:

Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front

No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH.
Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers??

This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US.

The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do.
And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person.

1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 5:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual.

Full-blown retard. You have to ask.

However did they win?

Big Donger wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 6:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win?

They cheated. They always do.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:03pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win? They cheated. They always do.

That's deep, old boy. 3am, innit.

Ki
Big Donger wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:07pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:03pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win? They cheated. They always do. That's deep, old boy. 3am, innit.

You are ducking and squirming, paki, like always.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 6:12pm:

Ki Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:07pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:03pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win? They cheated. They always do. That's deep, old boy. 3am, innit. You are ducking and squirming, paki, like always.

Oh, I know. Ducking and squirming from erection results Dear Leader's Secretary of State called "the most secure ever", Dear Leader's chief sychophant Attorney General said "there is no evidence of widespread electoral fraud, period," went through Republican-led audits and recounts in most of the contested states, was upheld in 60 legal suits, mostly by Dear Leader-appointed judges, including the Supreme Court, who could find no reason whatsoever to question it.

I'm reeling, dear boy. 3am, is it?

How cute. If only Hillary had come up with that in 2016 instead of conceeding on the night and telling her supporters to "give Donald a go". If only Mitt Romney and John McCain and Al Gore had thought up that, demanded loyal state governors find them extra votes, plotted military coups in the Oval Office, schemed to sack his second Attorney General for not breaking the law, and when all was said and done, incited a riot at the Capitol to threaten "weak" Republicans into submission and intimidate the Vice Prez to vote on a technicality to stall.

Tell us all about the virtues of being such a superior, jolly conservative again, old boy, upholding such enduring values and unquestionable morality. Truth, justice, the American way.

We knew you were just having a laugh. But that never stopped us having a chuckle ourselves, dear boy - at you.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 5:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual.

Quote:

No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home

The first problem you face is in that this didn't actually happen.

People went home in two major scenarios, their shift ended or their function was complete. The people actually counting remained to continue counting votes.

You guys even posted film of this happening. This stop the vote counting theory had been long debunked.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 5:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual.

Quote:

Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers??

The dumb Democrats made the election about getting rid of Trump and a pile of republicans agreed and voted against Trump. This led to the position where many of the same people who voted against trump were comfortable to vote republican in the other areas. The Democrats were too dumb to campaign against the rest of the incompetent corrupt Trump supporting representatives.

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:03pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win? They cheated. They always do.

Have you told Rudy?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 7:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:07pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:03pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win? They cheated. They always do. Have you told Rudy?

Rudy is busy trying to get a $1.3 billion loan.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 7:57pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:07pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:03pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win? They cheated. They always do. Have you told Rudy? Rudy is busy trying to get a $1.3 billion loan.

Lol    ;D

I hope he tucks his shirt in before he goes to the bank.

This'll get 'em.....

https://media1.tenor.com/images/db411709e1bfbe7aee9789bd74dff4c7/tenor.gif

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 7:57pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:07pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 6:03pm: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Full-blown retard. You have to ask. However did they win? They cheated. They always do. Have you told Rudy? Rudy is busy trying to get a $1.3 billion loan.

Or he could produce the evidence he claims to possess???

:-? :-? :-?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 7:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 5:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:17am: Frank wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 10:05am: Big Donger wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 5:19pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 9:41am: The heart of the real threat to American democracy in 2021: the complicity of the country’s dominant institutions in overriding ordinary checks and balances to ensure the success of their own preferred political program. Trump’s freedom of manoeuver has always been hampered by a hostile press, an independent judiciary, civil society organisations and even an interventionist deep state. But Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Who, then, will hold Biden to account? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/democracy-more-at-risk-with-no-brake-on-joe-biden/news-story/643e12a79d23f68bd33700c17484f41e Yes, I imagine Sleepy Joe will recieve the unquestioning endorsement of all the organs of state, given he won the presidency by seven million votes. That's the number of votes they faked from 3 am on 4 Nov  for the next 4 weeks. They never bothered to fake a similar number for Congress and the Senate. Still being silly I see. No votes were faked Just legal votes being counted. The cheat is the idea of just stopping to count votes when you are in front No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home, and on resumption the loser jumps miraculously to the lead. Then the count continues for weeks, waiting for the operatives to fill in enough to put the guy nobody could actually turn up to hear in the WH. Those operatives had no time to vote in similar proportions in congressional or senate choice because they had to focus on faking just the presidential votes.  Why else  are the Dems not similarly WAAAAAY ahead in those chambers?? This would be unthinkable in other, uncorrupted electoral systems. But Tammany Hall, like Lenin, lived, lives, and will live in Dem controlled jurisdictions in the US. The Dems now want all election to be as fakeable as this one so they are pushing for more of the same.  Nobody with any respect for true democracy is pushing for MORE fakeable postal votes. Only the poncy pelosy Dems do. And they will cancel your book deal if you disagree, demand that you be made a non-person. 1984 was first a distopian satire but now it's the left's operating manual. Quote: No functioning voting system stops at 3 am, everyone is sent home The first problem you face is in that this didn't actually happen. People went home in two major scenarios, their shift ended or their function was complete. The people actually counting remained to continue counting votes. You guys even posted film of this happening. This stop the vote counting theory had been long debunked.

Oh look, the old boy - 3am - has gone.

As if he doesn't know that every single vote counted was observed. They even displayed monitors, with lots of little observers sitting around, some of which were streamed online.

Don't play shurely shome mishtake with the old boy. He knows, every schoolboy knows.

Have a banana - have two. Have one for the old boy, who's safely back in his coffin until 3am, when nurse comes calling.

The old boy's just TRIGGERED. He'll get over it, he always does. Every good boy deserves fruit, no?

"Commerce Secretary Nominee Remains Open To Funding Biden’s Climate Agenda With Tax Hikes On The Middle Class"

https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/26/commerce-secretary-nominee-open-funding-biden-climate-agenda-tax-hikes-middle-class/

How to decrease the size of the middle class? Increase taxes and make them part of the lower class.

Wondering where in that video she actualls says the phrase open to raising taxes on the middle class

Plus the Daily Caller isn't what I'd call the least biased source running around, hence the interpretation on what she said

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:07pm:

"Commerce Secretary Nominee Remains Open To Funding Biden’s Climate Agenda With Tax Hikes On The Middle Class" https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/26/commerce-secretary-nominee-open-funding-biden-climate-agenda-tax-hikes-middle-class/ How to decrease the size of the middle class? Increase taxes and make them part of the lower class.

well, the money has to come from somewhere.
poor people don't have it.
Rich people don't pay tax .

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 7:59pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:07pm: "Commerce Secretary Nominee Remains Open To Funding Biden’s Climate Agenda With Tax Hikes On The Middle Class" https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/26/commerce-secretary-nominee-open-funding-biden-climate-agenda-tax-hikes-middle-class/ How to decrease the size of the middle class? Increase taxes and make them part of the lower class. well, the money has to come from somewhere. poor people don't have it. Rich people don't pay tax .

I mean getting the rich to pay for it would be grand. But thats socialist redistribution iof wealth apparently

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 7:50pm:

Plus the Daily Caller isn't what I'd call the least biased source running around, hence the interpretation on what she said

Of course you can find some rebuttal? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Or listen hear and tell us it was all untrue.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-secretary-of-commerce-nominee-gina-raimondo-testifies-in-senate-confirmation-hearing

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:09pm:

But thats socialist redistribution iof wealth apparently

Bezos wouldn't wear that. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:19pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 7:50pm: Plus the Daily Caller isn't what I'd call the least biased source running around, hence the interpretation on what she said Of course you can find some rebuttal? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Or listen hear and tell us it was all untrue. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-secretary-of-commerce-nominee-gina-raimondo-testifies-in-senate-confirmation-hearing

Mate you put the source up and I'm telling you on that video provided she said nothing about middle class taxes. If she did say it put up the source

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:09pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 7:59pm: lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:07pm: "Commerce Secretary Nominee Remains Open To Funding Biden’s Climate Agenda With Tax Hikes On The Middle Class" https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/26/commerce-secretary-nominee-open-funding-biden-climate-agenda-tax-hikes-middle-class/ How to decrease the size of the middle class? Increase taxes and make them part of the lower class. well, the money has to come from somewhere. poor people don't have it. Rich people don't pay tax . I mean getting the rich to pay for it would be grand. But thats socialist redistribution iof wealth apparently

It would be, yes.
It's pretty hard to get money off rich people though.
That is why they are rich.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:30pm:

Mate you put the source up and I'm telling you on that video provided she said nothing about middle class taxes. If she did say it put up the source

How about Town hall then?

"During her confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill this week, Biden Commerce Secretary nominee Gina Raimondo admitted Democrats will have to raise taxes on all Americans, including the middle and lower class, in order to pay for President Biden's "climate" agenda.

"Let me say this, I as governor am deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family. Having said that, we do need to meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure," Raimondo said. "I would look to balance those interests."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/27/biden-commerce-secretary-admits-we-need-to-raise-taxes-on-poor-americans-to-pay-for-climate-n2583785

Of course you could try snopes. ;)

It is amazing really. Sometimes Daily caller is ok sometimes not. I guess it depends on the story.

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:38pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:30pm: Mate you put the source up and I'm telling you on that video provided she said nothing about middle class taxes. If she did say it put up the source How about Town hall then? "During her confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill this week, Biden Commerce Secretary nominee Gina Raimondo admitted Democrats will have to raise taxes on all Americans, including the middle and lower class, in order to pay for President Biden's "climate" agenda. "Let me say this, I as governor am deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family. Having said that, we do need to meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure," Raimondo said. "I would look to balance those interests." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/27/biden-commerce-secretary-admits-we-need-to-raise-taxes-on-poor-americans-to-pay-for-climate-n2583785 Of course you could try snopes. ;) It is amazing really. Sometimes Daily caller is ok sometimes not. I guess it depends on the story.

Townhall???

;D ;D ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 9:36pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:38pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:30pm: Mate you put the source up and I'm telling you on that video provided she said nothing about middle class taxes. If she did say it put up the source How about Town hall then? "During her confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill this week, Biden Commerce Secretary nominee Gina Raimondo admitted Democrats will have to raise taxes on all Americans, including the middle and lower class, in order to pay for President Biden's "climate" agenda. "Let me say this, I as governor am deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family. Having said that, we do need to meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure," Raimondo said. "I would look to balance those interests." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/27/biden-commerce-secretary-admits-we-need-to-raise-taxes-on-poor-americans-to-pay-for-climate-n2583785 Of course you could try snopes. ;) It is amazing really. Sometimes Daily caller is ok sometimes not. I guess it depends on the story. Townhall??? ;D ;D ;D

I have no idea what townhall.com is, can you enlighten me?

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 9:36pm:

Townhall???

You could listen to the one hour video of the confirmation hearing petal. ;)

You just like to shoot the messenger. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Setanta wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 9:46pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 9:36pm: lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:38pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:30pm: Mate you put the source up and I'm telling you on that video provided she said nothing about middle class taxes. If she did say it put up the source How about Town hall then? "During her confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill this week, Biden Commerce Secretary nominee Gina Raimondo admitted Democrats will have to raise taxes on all Americans, including the middle and lower class, in order to pay for President Biden's "climate" agenda. "Let me say this, I as governor am deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family. Having said that, we do need to meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure," Raimondo said. "I would look to balance those interests." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/27/biden-commerce-secretary-admits-we-need-to-raise-taxes-on-poor-americans-to-pay-for-climate-n2583785 Of course you could try snopes. ;) It is amazing really. Sometimes Daily caller is ok sometimes not. I guess it depends on the story. Townhall??? ;D ;D ;D I have no idea what townhall.com is, can you enlighten me?

Sure!!!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/townhall/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/townhall-bias

::) ::) ::)

So tell us petal who you DO believe. Reddit? Newsmax? Someone else. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:38pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:30pm: Mate you put the source up and I'm telling you on that video provided she said nothing about middle class taxes. If she did say it put up the source How about Town hall then? "During her confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill this week, Biden Commerce Secretary nominee Gina Raimondo admitted Democrats will have to raise taxes on all Americans, including the middle and lower class, in order to pay for President Biden's "climate" agenda. "Let me say this, I as governor am deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family. Having said that, we do need to meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure," Raimondo said. "I would look to balance those interests." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/27/biden-commerce-secretary-admits-we-need-to-raise-taxes-on-poor-americans-to-pay-for-climate-n2583785 Of course you could try snopes. ;) It is amazing really. Sometimes Daily caller is ok sometimes not. I guess it depends on the story.

the bit you highlighted does not appear to be a direct quote. If you are claiming this then please provide the direct quote.

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:38pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:30pm: Mate you put the source up and I'm telling you on that video provided she said nothing about middle class taxes. If she did say it put up the source How about Town hall then? "During her confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill this week, Biden Commerce Secretary nominee Gina Raimondo admitted Democrats will have to raise taxes on all Americans, including the middle and lower class, in order to pay for President Biden's "climate" agenda. "Let me say this, I as governor am deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family. Having said that, we do need to meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure," Raimondo said. "I would look to balance those interests." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/27/biden-commerce-secretary-admits-we-need-to-raise-taxes-on-poor-americans-to-pay-for-climate-n2583785 Of course you could try snopes. ;) It is amazing really. Sometimes Daily caller is ok sometimes not. I guess it depends on the story.

You don't get the Daily Caller in WA, dear.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:14pm:

You don't get the Daily Caller in WA, dear.

And yet no one has actually debunked the story. ;)

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:28am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:14pm: You don't get the Daily Caller in WA, dear. And yet no one has actually debunked the story. ;)

No ones actually proved it either to be fair.

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:26pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:09pm: But thats socialist redistribution iof wealth apparently Bezos wouldn't wear that. ;)

:D :D :D :D

bingo, the worlds second richest man wouldnt wear that.

and he is amongst the wokest of the woke
dont want those lefties coming after the $$$.

and biden sees an all electric future for motor vehicles.
care to tell the middle classes about where he will be coming up with the $$$$  to offset the losses in fuel tax?
maybe from the middle classes ?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:30am:

No ones actually proved it either to be fair.

Another one -

"Joe Biden’s commerce secretary nominee Gina Raimondo revealed that she’s receptive to raising taxes on the poorest Americans to help fund the left’s radical climate agenda.

During the confirmation hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) asked how Raimondo, the current Democrat Rhode Island governor, felt about a Democrat proposal to impose a gas tax on Americans, including low-income families.

“As Governor, I’m deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family,” she began. “Having said that, we do need to, um, meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure.” "

https://www.newswars.com/bidens-commerce-secretary-nominee-says-shes-open-to-tax-hike-for-poorest-americans-to-fund-climate-agenda/

So the AVERAGE American family will need to be hit. Which according to Joe is those on  less than $400k.

And still nothing out there rebutting what was written. ;)

As Governor, I’m deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family,” she began. “Having said that, we do need to, um, meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure.” "

Can you point where in that statement she says raising taxes.

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:45pm:

“As Governor, I’m deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family,” she began. “Having said that, we do need to, um, meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure.” "

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:51pm:

Can you point where in that statement she says raising taxes.

Poor petal. Just how do you think they are going to fund "the climate change challenge"? She mentions "the average American family"  and "having said that we do need to meet the climate change challenge".

So exactly what is she proposing? Magical unicorn farts for funding? No can't be that, she hasn't mentioned unicorns. I guess that leaves the "average American Family" as they are the only ones mentioned.

Perhaps you can find someone who disagrees with that assessment. I mean I had a look this morning and there was no one saying that the interpretation is wrong.

Surely you can find someone to support your proposition. ::)

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:30am: No ones actually proved it either to be fair. Another one - "Joe Biden’s commerce secretary nominee Gina Raimondo revealed that she’s receptive to raising taxes on the poorest Americans to help fund the left’s radical climate agenda. During the confirmation hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) asked how Raimondo, the current Democrat Rhode Island governor, felt about a Democrat proposal to impose a gas tax on Americans, including low-income families. “As Governor, I’m deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family,” she began. “Having said that, we do need to, um, meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure.” " https://www.newswars.com/bidens-commerce-secretary-nominee-says-shes-open-to-tax-hike-for-poorest-americans-to-fund-climate-agenda/ So the AVERAGE American family will need to be hit. Which according to Joe is those on  less than $400k. And still nothing out there rebutting what was written. ;)

Newswars???

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newswars/

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:21pm:

Newswars???

I see you haven't found a site for rebuttal yet. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 1:05pm:

lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 12:45pm: “As Governor, I’m deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family,” she began. “Having said that, we do need to, um, meet the climate change challenge and we need funds for improved infrastructure.” " Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 12:51pm: Can you point where in that statement she says raising taxes. Poor petal. Just how do you think they are going to fund "the climate change challenge"? She mentions "the average American family"  and "having said that we do need to meet the climate change challenge". So exactly what is she proposing? Magical unicorn farts for funding? No can't be that, she hasn't mentioned unicorns. I guess that leaves the "average American Family" as they are the only ones mentioned. Perhaps you can find someone who disagrees with that assessment. I mean I had a look this morning and there was no one saying that the interpretation is wrong. Surely you can find someone to support your proposition. ::)

I view it as awide range of possible interpretations. Maybe they'll ta the middle class, maybe they won't. Personally, contrarian, they should tax the wealthy.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:22pm:

I view it as awide range of possible interpretations. Maybe they'll ta the middle class, maybe they won't. Personally, contrarian, they should tax the wealthy.

So why just mention "average American families"?  Not the "wealthy"?

I guess we can add Tom Steyer wouldn't like it to the list that includes Bezos. ;)

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:26pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:22pm: I view it as awide range of possible interpretations. Maybe they'll ta the middle class, maybe they won't. Personally, contrarian, they should tax the wealthy. So why just mention "average American families"?  Not the "wealthy"?

I suspect what shes doing is basically playing the contrarian movement looking for poor interpretations in everything she says. The same type of mentality thinking children are being kidnapped and bled for adrenochrome under a pizza shop.

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:22pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:21pm: Newswars??? I see you haven't found a site for rebuttal yet. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's bullshit....You question SBS, The ABC, CNN and every other news outlet that is not a right wing conspiracy site (infowars / newswars)....Post a link to a site that calls itself news and is bound by the code of practice you dickhead....Your source is worthless!!!

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:32pm:

You question SBS, The ABC, CNN and every other news outlet that is not a right wing conspiracy site (infowars / newswars)....Post a link to a site that calls itself news and is bound by the code of practice you dickhead....Your source is worthless!!!

Poor petal. very butt hurt. Can't even get his precious left wing media to can it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:36pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:32pm: You question SBS, The ABC, CNN and every other news outlet that is not a right wing conspiracy site (infowars / newswars)....Post a link to a site that calls itself news and is bound by the code of practice you dickhead....Your source is worthless!!! Poor petal. very butt hurt. Can't even get his precious left wing media to can it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No site accept Alex Jones will touch it....Why am I not surprised you believe a dickhead like Alex Jones....The reason no "news" outlet will publish this crap is because there is a charter about honesty in news....Not even Fox would touch this crap....Opinion pieces from right wing conspiracy sites is all you can produce to support your bullshit....You are an idiot!!!


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Broadcaster and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones said it was a "form of psychosis" that caused him to believe certain events --- like the Sandy Hook massacre -- were staged.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/alex-jones-psychosis-sandy-hook/index.html

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philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:48pm:

lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:36pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:32pm: You question SBS, The ABC, CNN and every other news outlet that is not a right wing conspiracy site (infowars / newswars)....Post a link to a site that calls itself news and is bound by the code of practice you dickhead....Your source is worthless!!! Poor petal. very butt hurt. Can't even get his precious left wing media to can it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No site accept Alex Jones will touch it....Why am I not surprised you believe a dickhead like Alex Jones....The reason no "news" outlet will publish this crap is because there is a charter about honesty in news....Not even Fox would touch this crap....Opinion pieces from right wing conspiracy sites is all you can produce to support your bullshit....You are an idiot!!! Quote: Broadcaster and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones said it was a "form of psychosis" that caused him to believe certain events --- like the Sandy Hook massacre -- were staged. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/alex-jones-psychosis-sandy-hook/index.html [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif]

Wow. Talk about desperation. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BTW - When have I queried SBS? I mean I do the ABC and climate change but that's about all. ::)

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 5:03pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:48pm: lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:36pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 4:32pm: You question SBS, The ABC, CNN and every other news outlet that is not a right wing conspiracy site (infowars / newswars)....Post a link to a site that calls itself news and is bound by the code of practice you dickhead....Your source is worthless!!! Poor petal. very butt hurt. Can't even get his precious left wing media to can it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No site accept Alex Jones will touch it....Why am I not surprised you believe a dickhead like Alex Jones....The reason no "news" outlet will publish this crap is because there is a charter about honesty in news....Not even Fox would touch this crap....Opinion pieces from right wing conspiracy sites is all you can produce to support your bullshit....You are an idiot!!! Quote: Broadcaster and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones said it was a "form of psychosis" that caused him to believe certain events --- like the Sandy Hook massacre -- were staged. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/alex-jones-psychosis-sandy-hook/index.html [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] Wow. Talk about desperation. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BTW - When have I queried SBS? I mean I do the ABC and climate change but that's about all. ::)

Alex Jones!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 5:05pm:

Alex Jones!!!

Is he on ABC country? ::)

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 5:06pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm: Alex Jones!!! Is he on ABC country? ::)

Alex Jones owns newswars which is who you quoted....The article citing Jones is a nut case was posted to show you are following a complete dickhead....Why did you try to pass of ABC country as supporting your bullshit when all it did was confirm Jones is a lying dickhead like you!!!

:-? :-? :-?

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 5:06pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 5:05pm: Alex Jones!!! Is he on ABC country? ::)

No - BBC Wales....

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 5:12pm:

Alex Jones owns newswars which is who you quoted..

Does he?

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 5:12pm:

.Why did you try to pass of ABC country as supporting your bullshit when all it did was confirm Jones is a lying dickhead like you!!!

All i asked was if he was ABC country. I listen to that when the cricket is on and I am traveling.

Where did I say ABC country supported Jones? ::) ::)

You are really losing the plot petal.

And as I previously wrote you can listen to her confirmation hearing yourself. It's not that hard. I even included the link. ::)

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:28pm:

I suspect what shes doing is basically playing the contrarian movement looking for poor interpretations in everything she says.

So here she is a highly qualified investment banker and doesn't know how to talk straight? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 4:28pm:

The same type of mentality thinking children are being kidnapped and bled for adrenochrome under a pizza shop.

Do you think that. I suggest you see a trick cyclist NOW. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 5:26pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 5:12pm: Alex Jones owns newswars which is who you quoted.. Does he? Quote: Founded in 2017, NewsWars is a news and opinion website by Infowars publisher and far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, where he claims to be bringing “truth back to the media.” https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newswars/ philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 5:12pm: .Why did you try to pass of ABC country as supporting your bullshit when all it did was confirm Jones is a lying dickhead like you!!! All i asked was if he was ABC country. I listen to that when the cricket is on and I am traveling. Where did I say ABC country supported Jones? ::) ::) You brought up ABC country not me??? You are really losing the plot petal. Jones is losing the plot yet you still believe his bullshit!!! And as I previously wrote you can listen to her confirmation hearing yourself. It's not that hard. I even included the link. ::) The video goes for an hour and twenty minutes and no where does she ever claim she will tax the poor or middle class....It is bullshit!!!

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 6:16pm:

The video goes for an hour and twenty minutes and no where does she ever claim she will tax the poor or middle class....It is bullshit!!!

The video shows her being asked about the Gas Tax that the Democrats have installed.

"Gas tax hike part of House Democrats' transportation plan"

https://apnews.com/article/washington-transportation-d46b26883b63e5948b8c93bc4556c8fb

But you probably don't like that site either.

Then she says she is " deeply in touch with how much increasing bills affect the average American family.”

So tell us petal do taxes on fuel hit the poor and middle class effectively more than the rich? isn't it a tax on the poor and middle class that will hurt them more than the rich?

Or maybe USnews

https://apnews.com/article/washington-transportation-d46b26883b63e5948b8c93bc4556c8fb

This sounds like a very good proposal to improve infrastructure and lower carbon emissions!!!


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And, Fey said, there will be a focus on equity by targeting spending toward disadvantaged communities while working to boost the number of contracts issued to minority- and women-owned businesses. The proposal is a product of 90 “listening sessions” with people and organizations conducted since the end of last legislative session, he said.

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https://www.heraldnet.com/news/house-democrats-lay-out-massive-26b-transportation-package/

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 7:46pm:

This sounds like a very good proposal to improve infrastructure and lower carbon emissions!!!

And bugger Biden's promise of no new taxes for those on less than 400K.

Oh you probably want to go with "it's not a new tax"? Despite it not having increased in 28 years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 7:46pm:

This sounds like a very good proposal to improve infrastructure and lower carbon emissions!!! Quote: And, Fey said, there will be a focus on equity by targeting spending toward disadvantaged communities while working to boost the number of contracts issued to minority- and women-owned businesses. The proposal is a product of 90 “listening sessions” with people and organizations conducted since the end of last legislative session, he said. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] https://www.heraldnet.com/news/house-democrats-lay-out-massive-26b-transportation-package/

your out of your mind phillip.

america needs a work ethic to rival the chinese

not some touchy feeley leftie motherhood statements