AOC asks - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters [aka, white supremacists] ?

In 2021,    THOUGHTCRIME    is prevalent in Amerika !



Yadda paraphrases AOC;

"We need a plan going forward, on how can we best neutralise this danger to Amerika, and to every one of us !"


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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), is effectively calling for an Orwellian “Ministry of Truth.”

i.e.
'You must believe what we believe !'

'You must think, as we think !     ....to NOT do so, means there is something wrong with you !'



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AOC Demands Federal Funding To ‘Deradicalize’ White Supremacists, Conspiracy Theorists By  Jon Brown Jan 17, 2021 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) on Friday called for the federal government to better fund efforts to “deradicalize” white supremacists, conspiracy theory adherents, and others who have supposedly been misled by President Donald Trump. Responding to a question during a virtual town hall, Ocasio-Cortez conceded that figuring out how best to communicate with some of Trump’s supporters is “very difficult.” ......“There are a couple things I will say about this. One is I think our community recognizes … that this is not a problem that is going to go away Jan. 20. You know, this doesn’t go away with an inauguration, it doesn’t go away after an inauguration. And there are people who are radicalized right now, and it is going to take a very long time … and a lot of effort to deradicalize those people.” ...... Neglecting to distinguish between white supremacists and those who questioned the integrity of the 2020 presidential election, Ocasio-Cortez stressed the importance of counteracting what she described as the “unaccountable misinformation bubble” that she claims deceives them. “There is no deradicalizing in one conversation,” she said. “It did not take one conversation to convince people of the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen. It took echoes, it took people hammering this, it took the president saying over and over and over again, it took his echo chamber saying it over and over and over again, it took this completely unaccountable misinformation bubble around him, hammering it over and over and over again. And that is how people get radicalized. And it takes a lot of that repeated effort to get people back out.” Ocasio-Cortez recently called for a congressional committee to combat disinformation in media, drawing criticism from some who claimed she was effectively calling for an Orwellian “Ministry of Truth.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/aoc-demands-federal-funding-to-deradicalize-white-supremacists-conspiracy-theorists



Those persons     who did NOT vote for Joe Biden and Kamal Harris are,    clearly, the biggest danger to 'the freedom to choose' in Amerika, and a safe Amerika.

/sarc off

Shouldn't we just criminalise those who did   NOT   vote for Joe Biden and Kamal Harris ???

Clearly, failing to do so, that is a quasi-criminal act.

/sarc off



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"......Ocasio-Cortez recently called for a congressional committee to combat disinformation in media."

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WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
- Party slogans from 1984

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Quote:

'You must believe what we believe !' 'You must think, as we think !     ....to NOT do so, means there is something wrong with you !'

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"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever."
- George Orwell, 1984

Thrilling stuff !

We saw it, in Mugabe's ZIMBABWE, in Maduro's VENEZUELA,
and in many other centrally commanded socialist paradises.

AOC is a socialist.

so she would apply a socialist solution

The Killing Fields (Khmer: វាលពិឃាត, Khmer pronunciation: ʋiəl pikʰiət]) are a number of sites in Cambodia where collectively more than a million people were killed and buried by the Khmer Rouge regime (the Communist Party of Kampuchea)

The Khmer Rouge regime arrested and eventually executed almost everyone suspected of connections with the former government

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the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult.

they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china.



that may not go down well

rednecks from arkansas may not be as malleable as the uyghirs

Yadda wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

AOC asks - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters [aka, white supremacists] ? In 2021,    THOUGHTCRIME    is prevalent in Amerika !

got a link to her actual quote rather than what someone says she said?  ::) ::) ::)

Even though it's a misinterpretation of what she said, attributed as a quote as always, the question is more important that the trolls realise.

Biden wants unity.

To have unity we need to bring those in the Maga fantasy back to reality.

How can one do that?

I've tried on here and it's impossible.

The worst example of the red pilled Maga people here include Rich, Mech etc. You've seen how they meltdown when confronted with a truth they cannot handle.

That's the Maga way.

How do you deradicalise that!?

The Maga people went from cheering on Pence thinking he could single handedly overturn the election result and when he tweeted that he couldn't and wouldn't be doing it on Wednesday, they instantly shifted to him being a peadophile who had abuse more than 50+ children and since they couldn't rely on him stopping the certification they stormed the Capitol like T**** said to show the weak Republicans how to fight.

How to you walk people back from this sort of insanity.

Unity with these people is going to be impossible.

So instead, we should strive for unity with justice, so the same mistakes of the civil war aren't relived.

Unless Yadda, you think there is a way to bring these brainwashed Maga people back to reality?

To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue.

A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q. 

You guys really think that nothing should be done ?

AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment.

Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:07pm:

the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china. that may not go down well rednecks from arkansas may not be as malleable as the uyghirs

Sedition has consequences.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment.

Well that says nothing for the political class. She is a clueless wanabee.

AOC and the Green new Deal. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:44pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:07pm: the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china. that may not go down well rednecks from arkansas may not be as malleable as the uyghirs Sedition has consequences.

That it does.

lee wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Well that says nothing for the political class. She is a clueless wanabee. AOC and the Green new Deal. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes and Medicare for all !

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:26pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 12:25pm: AOC asks - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters [aka, white supremacists] ? In 2021,    THOUGHTCRIME    is prevalent in Amerika ! got a link to her actual quote rather than what someone says she said?  ::) ::) ::)

No he doesn't because it is bullshit as usual!!!

::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:07pm:

the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china. that may not go down well rednecks from arkansas may not be as malleable as the uyghirs

looking at that mob which over ran the capitol, they were def not a "well organised militia", they may have gun rights but that doesnt make them any smarter.

A government controlled     federal commission    should supervise and be in charge of all publicly released news reports.
- Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.  [paraphrasing]





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Isaiah 3:12
As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.


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AOC Clearest Portrait Yet of Our Broken Congress By Michael Dorstewitz Friday, 15 January 2021 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., who self identifies as a democratic-socialist, suggested this week that.... a federal commission .....should do to news media what Facebook and Twitter do to their users — control the information that gets disseminated. In fact, she claimed that such a commission was already in the works. ...... "There is absolutely a commission being discussed," Ocasio-Cortez claimed. "But it seems to be more investigatory in style rather than truth and reconciliation. So I think that’s an interesting concept for us to explore, and I do think that several members of Congress, in some of my discussions, have brought up media literacy because that is a part of what happened here and we’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation." In a New York Post commentary, David Harsanyi called the proposal "creepy" and "wholly un-American" — and it is. And if it sounds vaguely familiar, think of the "Ministry of Truth" in George Orwell’s dystopian novel "1984." We have an independent press to keep a check on government — not the other way around. It’s little more than an attempt to rein in dissent — not by debating the issues and offering alternative viewpoints — but by controlling the conversation, and in so doing, showing contempt for the American people. Assuming you still believe Congress should establish a central clearinghouse to separate fact from fiction, consider a statement Ocasio-Cortez made a few years back. She claimed that two-thirds of a "Medicare for All" program could be financed by the "$21 trillion of Pentagon financial transactions [that] ‘could not be traced, documented, or explained.'" The Washington Post gave that statement four Pinocchios, its highest rating for disinformation, stating that the $21 trillion figure she referred to was over the previous 17 years, and more importantly, represented errors in both funds coming in and money going out. When she was called on it during a "60 Minutes" interview on CBS, her response was jaw-dropping. "If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they’re missing the forest for the trees," she said. "There's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right." Although receiving four Pinocchios, she claimed moral superiority, so that made it OK. Even assuming Ocasio-Cortez won’t be involved in the actual fact-checking of news stories, consider the House Democrats’ article of impeachment against President Trump. They claimed he incited insurrection when he told his supporters, "if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore." Most if not all members of Congress have said something similar throughout their political careers — probably more than once. During the same speech Trump predicted that "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." He said of the unconvinced Republicans, "If they don't fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don't fight. You primary them. We're going to let you know who they are." But if it’s an actual commission independent of Congress, comprised of “professional” fact-checkers, how would that work out? Newsweek fact-checked the question, "Did Trump Say to 'Peacefully and Patriotically' March to the Capitol?" It concluded that "The president did say that the crowd was going to march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol. After the attack, Trump said he does not condone violence." It added, "However, it does not necessarily mean the president did not incite violence with the rest of his speech or in his rhetoric prior to January 6." Taking a cue from Ocasio-Cortez, you could say that Newsweek was being "factually wrong but morally correct." This is why Congress is broken. ........

https://www.newsmax.com/michaeldorstewitz/antifa-blm-affordable-care/2021/01/15/id/1005799/

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:07pm:

the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china. that may not go down well rednecks from arkansas may not be as malleable as the uyghirs

Yes but it could be worse, Imagine how much worse it would be if any of it were true ?

Yadda wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

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no poo  :D :D

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:07pm: the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china. that may not go down well rednecks from arkansas may not be as malleable as the uyghirs Yes but it could be worse, Imagine how much worse it would be if any of it were true ?

If any of it were true !!!!

Haven't you been paying attention !!


Biden Camp cadres already are spruiking China type PRESS controls, for The Peoples Republic of Amerika !

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Yadda wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

A government controlled     federal commission    should supervise and be in charge of all publicly released news reports. - Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.  [paraphrasing] Quote: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., who self identifies as a democratic-socialist, suggested this week that.... a federal commission .....should do to news media what Facebook and Twitter do to their users — control the information that gets disseminated. In fact, she claimed that such a commission was already in the works. ...... "There is absolutely a commission being discussed," Ocasio-Cortez claimed. In a New York Post commentary, David Harsanyi called the proposal "creepy" and "wholly un-American" — and it is. And if it sounds vaguely familiar, think of the "Ministry of Truth" in George Orwell’s dystopian novel "1984." We have an independent press to keep a check on government — not the other way around. It’s little more than an attempt to rein in dissent — not by debating the issues and offering alternative viewpoints — but by controlling the conversation, and in so doing, showing contempt for the American people. ....... https://www.newsmax.com/michaeldorstewitz/antifa-blm-affordable-care/2021/01/15/id/1005799/

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

Even though it's a misinterpretation of what she said, attributed as a quote as always, the question is more important that the trolls realise. Biden wants unity. To have unity we need to bring those in the Maga fantasy back to reality. How can one do that? I've tried on here and it's impossible. The worst example of the red pilled Maga people here include Rich, Mech etc. You've seen how they meltdown when confronted with a truth they cannot handle. That's the Maga way. How do you deradicalise that!? The Maga people went from cheering on Pence thinking he could single handedly overturn the election result and when he tweeted that he couldn't and wouldn't be doing it on Wednesday, they instantly shifted to him being a peadophile who had abuse more than 50+ children and since they couldn't rely on him stopping the certification they stormed the Capitol like T**** said to show the weak Republicans how to fight. How to you walk people back from this sort of insanity. Unity with these people is going to be impossible. So instead, we should strive for unity with justice, so the same mistakes of the civil war aren't relived. Unless Yadda, you think there is a way to bring these brainwashed Maga people back to reality?

Good propaganda, Comrade. Eliminating them is the only way. May they taste the jackboot of progressivism! This is progress.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA.

Good hate, Comrade. Destroy them with jackboots or drones?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:

Yes and Medicare for all !

"The resolution calls for accomplishment of these goals through a 10-year national mobilization effort. The resolution also enumerates the goals and projects of the mobilization effort, including

    building smart power grids (i.e., power grids that enable customers to reduce their power use during peak demand periods);
    upgrading all existing buildings and constructing new buildings to achieve maximum energy and water efficiency;
    removing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation and agricultural sectors;
    cleaning up existing hazardous waste and abandoned sites;
    ensuring businesspersons are free from unfair competition; and
    providing higher education, high-quality health care, and affordable, safe, and adequate housing to all.


https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109

Those highlighted can't be achieved. ;)

In particular -

"(1) human activity is the dominant cause of observed climate change over the past century;

(2) a changing climate is causing sea levels to rise and an increase in wildfires, severe storms, droughts, and other extreme weather events that threaten human life, healthy communities, and critical infrastructure;

(3) global warming at or above 2 degrees Celsius beyond preindustrialized levels will cause—

(A) mass migration from the regions most affected by climate change;

(B) more than $500,000,000,000 in lost annual economic output in the United States by the year 2100;

(C) wildfires that, by 2050, will annually burn at least twice as much forest area in the western United States than was typically burned by wildfires in the years preceding 2019;

(D) a loss of more than 99 percent of all coral reefs on Earth;

(E) more than 350,000,000 more people to be exposed globally to deadly heat stress by 2050; and

(F) a risk of damage to $1,000,000,000,000 of public infrastructure and coastal real estate in the United States; "

Which is total bollocks. Even the IPCC says so.

We were supposed to have 50 million climate refugees by 2020. ::)

As is -

"(C) meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources, including—

(i) by dramatically expanding and upgrading renewable power sources; and

(ii) by deploying new capacity;"

She is loony tunes.

Someone ought to deradicalize Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Yadda wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

AOC asks - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters [aka, white supremacists] ? In 2021,    THOUGHTCRIME    is prevalent in Amerika ! Yadda paraphrases AOC; "We need a plan going forward, on how can we best neutralise this danger to Amerika, and to every one of us !" . IMAGE..... https://dw-wp-production.imgix.net/2020/11/AOC-1-1.jpg Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), is effectively calling for an Orwellian “Ministry of Truth.” i.e. 'You must believe what we believe !' 'You must think, as we think !     ....to NOT do so, means there is something wrong with you !' . Quote: AOC Demands Federal Funding To ‘Deradicalize’ White Supremacists, Conspiracy Theorists By  Jon Brown Jan 17, 2021 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) on Friday called for the federal government to better fund efforts to “deradicalize” white supremacists, conspiracy theory adherents, and others who have supposedly been misled by President Donald Trump. Responding to a question during a virtual town hall, Ocasio-Cortez conceded that figuring out how best to communicate with some of Trump’s supporters is “very difficult.” ......“There are a couple things I will say about this. One is I think our community recognizes … that this is not a problem that is going to go away Jan. 20. You know, this doesn’t go away with an inauguration, it doesn’t go away after an inauguration. And there are people who are radicalized right now, and it is going to take a very long time … and a lot of effort to deradicalize those people.” ...... Neglecting to distinguish between white supremacists and those who questioned the integrity of the 2020 presidential election, Ocasio-Cortez stressed the importance of counteracting what she described as the “unaccountable misinformation bubble” that she claims deceives them. “There is no deradicalizing in one conversation,” she said. “It did not take one conversation to convince people of the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen. It took echoes, it took people hammering this, it took the president saying over and over and over again, it took his echo chamber saying it over and over and over again, it took this completely unaccountable misinformation bubble around him, hammering it over and over and over again. And that is how people get radicalized. And it takes a lot of that repeated effort to get people back out.” Ocasio-Cortez recently called for a congressional committee to combat disinformation in media, drawing criticism from some who claimed she was effectively calling for an Orwellian “Ministry of Truth.” https://www.dailywire.com/news/aoc-demands-federal-funding-to-deradicalize-white-supremacists-conspiracy-theorists Those persons     who did NOT vote for Joe Biden and Kamal Harris are,    clearly, the biggest danger to 'the freedom to choose' in Amerika, and a safe Amerika. /sarc off Shouldn't we just criminalise those who did   NOT   vote for Joe Biden and Kamal Harris ??? Clearly, failing to do so, that is a quasi-criminal act. /sarc off . "......Ocasio-Cortez recently called for a congressional committee to combat disinformation in media." ------- > WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH - Party slogans from 1984 ------- > [quote] 'You must believe what we believe !' 'You must think, as we think !     ....to NOT do so, means there is something wrong with you !'

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"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever."
- George Orwell, 1984

Thrilling stuff !

We saw it, in Mugabe's ZIMBABWE, in Maduro's VENEZUELA,
and in many other centrally commanded socialist paradises.



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That girl needs a brain transplant, with her family's money she could afford one! We are not the ones in need of reprogramming!

https://twitter.com/mbracemoore/status/1326621458974564353

Same way you de-radicalise Trump opponents.............

'White supremacists'?

What about the Blacks aggrieved by their vote for Trump being trashed, etc?

This is the kind of ridiculous name-calling and puerile attempt at creating of any person objecting into some form of radical Nazi killer and oppressor.... utter nonsense.  Been going on ever since they allowed women too much say in politics and everywhere else, when they started off by hurling nasty names at men and continue to do so to this day.

That is what open discussion has become these days - hurling names around without any justification.

Who was it that said if you want to sway the masses - appeal to their emotions, not their reason?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 12:57am:

Same way you de-radicalise Trump opponents.............

now now !  that could make sense to some... ;) ;) ;D ;D

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:33pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:42pm: Even though it's a misinterpretation of what she said, attributed as a quote as always, the question is more important that the trolls realise. Biden wants unity. To have unity we need to bring those in the Maga fantasy back to reality. How can one do that? I've tried on here and it's impossible. The worst example of the red pilled Maga people here include Rich, Mech etc. You've seen how they meltdown when confronted with a truth they cannot handle. That's the Maga way. How do you deradicalise that!? The Maga people went from cheering on Pence thinking he could single handedly overturn the election result and when he tweeted that he couldn't and wouldn't be doing it on Wednesday, they instantly shifted to him being a peadophile who had abuse more than 50+ children and since they couldn't rely on him stopping the certification they stormed the Capitol like T**** said to show the weak Republicans how to fight. How to you walk people back from this sort of insanity. Unity with these people is going to be impossible. So instead, we should strive for unity with justice, so the same mistakes of the civil war aren't relived. Unless Yadda, you think there is a way to bring these brainwashed Maga people back to reality? Good propaganda, Comrade. Eliminating them is the only way. May they taste the jackboot of progressivism! This is progress.

Are you retarded?

I want the unity, I want them back at the table, not hiding under it eating their own feces.

How do you propose the Maga people who now so easily reject reality they don't like and substitute it for a fiction they do, how can there be unity when they don't even accept reality?

How do you fix that?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:24am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 9:33pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:42pm: Even though it's a misinterpretation of what she said, attributed as a quote as always, the question is more important that the trolls realise. Biden wants unity. To have unity we need to bring those in the Maga fantasy back to reality. How can one do that? I've tried on here and it's impossible. The worst example of the red pilled Maga people here include Rich, Mech etc. You've seen how they meltdown when confronted with a truth they cannot handle. That's the Maga way. How do you deradicalise that!? The Maga people went from cheering on Pence thinking he could single handedly overturn the election result and when he tweeted that he couldn't and wouldn't be doing it on Wednesday, they instantly shifted to him being a peadophile who had abuse more than 50+ children and since they couldn't rely on him stopping the certification they stormed the Capitol like T**** said to show the weak Republicans how to fight. How to you walk people back from this sort of insanity. Unity with these people is going to be impossible. So instead, we should strive for unity with justice, so the same mistakes of the civil war aren't relived. Unless Yadda, you think there is a way to bring these brainwashed Maga people back to reality? Good propaganda, Comrade. Eliminating them is the only way. May they taste the jackboot of progressivism! This is progress. Are you retarded? I want the unity, I want them back at the table, not hiding under it eating their own feces. How do you propose the Maga people who now so easily reject reality they don't like and substitute it for a fiction they do, how can there be unity when they don't even accept reality? How do you fix that?

What is reality?  There is a very interesting documentary on Netflix at the moment, "The Social Dilemma".  Lots of people on this forum would be well advised to watch it.   

For you to ask what is reality in this context just shows the other side to the problem.

There is still a massive troll element to the movement hindering the ability to deradicalise those still trapped in MAGAland.

Something is either real and supported by evidence, or it's not.  True or false.  Black and white, there is no grey in what is real and what isn't.

Maga first ask, does X support what I believe.

Yes - It's true.

No - It's fake.

"T**** lost the election"

They don't believe that, so it's false.

It's not that there is evidence to show he won or it was stolen from him, they've seen this and then hold the opinion that he won and therefore they believe that, no, they simply can't accept the truth so they literally reject it, hold their opinion as fact and then look for anything they can find, calling it evidence so long as it supports their opinion.

There is no "Is this actually real" in the debate.

That's going to be the hardest and highest hurdle to overcome.

T**** has convinced a big chunk, if not the overwhelming majority, that lies make reality.

No.

Get help.

So again, those who will just frame what they believe not because it's true, but because it makes them feel better, how do you deradisalise that?

How can you work with that?

How can you unite with that?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:24am:

I want the unity

Not over the last four years you didn't

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 12:22pm:

So again, those who will just frame what they believe not because it's true, but because it makes them feel better, how do you deradisalise that? How can you work with that? How can you unite with that?

You can work with it when you lefties are first deradicalised. Your socialist views are pretty extreme, you even call for some people to kill themselves. You need to be taught not to think like that, then you'll "feel better" about yourself

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 8:24am: I want the unity Not over the last four years you didn't

::) ::) ::)  and he doesnt think the ANGRY ONES...will want to pay back the compliment...

he should be so lucky.. Joe has 100 days to fix UNITY... :D :D :D :D good luck with that Joe!

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 8:24am: I want the unity Not over the last four years you didn't

Here's the thing, if the left just wants revenge the cycle will never stop.  The country will go down the gurgler.

Unlike the right, the left actually cares about the country, not just trolling the other side.

The only way to go forward is together.

The T**** supporters will never initiate that.  It's going to be hard enough to simply bring them to the table.

Their President was only ever leading for one side, look at COVID.

No, as usual, the left are held to a higher standard and Biden is already saying he will be the President for all Americans and his actions so far back that up.

As for the last 4 years, the Dems tried to work with T****.  They gave him a pathway to fund his wall, he refused.

They kept backing down time and time again, for the sake of the country and stability, until they were forced into impeachment, twice.

I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread.

But let's say the left (as much as I hate saying "left and right") want to move forward, together and the "right" refuse, what then?

And unless hey can be deradicalised, that's exactly what will happen.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:02pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:22pm: So again, those who will just frame what they believe not because it's true, but because it makes them feel better, how do you deradisalise that? How can you work with that? How can you unite with that? You can work with it when you lefties are first deradicalised. Your socialist views are pretty extreme, you even call for some people to kill themselves. You need to be taught not to think like that, then you'll "feel better" about yourself

Yeah, I did let Rich get to me.

See these people that lost their lives at the Capitol, it's all because of the lies those people who need to be deradicalised keep telling.

Their deaths were absolutely meaningless.

They died to try to stop the count of the EC votes because they'd been lied to, the very same lies Richs CONTINUES to tell, that the election was stolen from Trump. 

They died for NOTHING. 

Absolutely, bloody, NOTHING!!

They don't get to go home.

They're gone.

All because Trump and those like Rich keep pushing the lie that the election was stolen from him.

Not only that, but Pence was meant to overturn the election result.  He didn't have the power to do so in the first place, he tweeted as much, so he didn't.

These people were also attacking the Capitol trying to force his hand.

He didn't have the power to do it in the first place.  There was no loophole, there was no "Pence Card", yet they Maga people were lied to again.

Every single reason they attempted to take the Capitol to bring in the Storm, their revolution, with their seditious attack was a lie.

It makes me furious that these people had to die for nothing because of the lies people like Rich posted.

AND THEN HE CONTINUES TO DO IT!

Even after these MAGA people have been such a pain these last 4 years, I still care when they needlessly die.

I'm not perfect, I have never claimed to be.  I was angry but more so upset at the lives lost.  I should have shown more restraint than using his very own disregard for human life against him.

I just hope you don't start defending his actions too.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

But let's say the left (as much as I hate saying "left and right") want to move forward, together and the "right" refuse, what then? And unless they can be deradicalised, that's exactly what will happen.

Hate saying “left” and “right”? Well then don’t . It’s amazing what we learn when we put aside these simplistic categories which are an invariable feature of political discussion in the US.. Remember, it’s not that long ago Americans were known for ‘looking for Reds under the bed’.
And consider this, the US’s great leader Mr T didn’t worry himself too much about such scruples when he cuddled up to his boyfriend in Moscow.

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 2:35pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm: But let's say the left (as much as I hate saying "left and right") want to move forward, together and the "right" refuse, what then? And unless they can be deradicalised, that's exactly what will happen. Hate saying “left” and “right”? Well then don’t . It’s amazing what we learn when we put aside these simplistic categories which are an invariable feature of political discussion in the US.. Remember, it’s not that long ago Americans were known for ‘looking for Reds under the bed’. And consider this, the US’s great leader Mr T didn’t worry himself too much about such scruples when he cuddled up to his boyfriend in Moscow.

Know your audience, sometimes one must use those terms rather than the more complicated ideas, especially when dealing with someone like Bias.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:24am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 9:33pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:42pm: Even though it's a misinterpretation of what she said, attributed as a quote as always, the question is more important that the trolls realise. Biden wants unity. To have unity we need to bring those in the Maga fantasy back to reality. How can one do that? I've tried on here and it's impossible. The worst example of the red pilled Maga people here include Rich, Mech etc. You've seen how they meltdown when confronted with a truth they cannot handle. That's the Maga way. How do you deradicalise that!? The Maga people went from cheering on Pence thinking he could single handedly overturn the election result and when he tweeted that he couldn't and wouldn't be doing it on Wednesday, they instantly shifted to him being a peadophile who had abuse more than 50+ children and since they couldn't rely on him stopping the certification they stormed the Capitol like T**** said to show the weak Republicans how to fight. How to you walk people back from this sort of insanity. Unity with these people is going to be impossible. So instead, we should strive for unity with justice, so the same mistakes of the civil war aren't relived. Unless Yadda, you think there is a way to bring these brainwashed Maga people back to reality? Good propaganda, Comrade. Eliminating them is the only way. May they taste the jackboot of progressivism! This is progress. Are you retarded? I want the unity, I want them back at the table, not hiding under it eating their own feces. How do you propose the Maga people who now so easily reject reality they don't like and substitute it for a fiction they do, how can there be unity when they don't even accept reality? How do you fix that?

Comrade, the divide is a battle between values, beliefs, morals, interpretations and perspectives. Some empiricism aside, this is how we see 'reality'. There is no fix, only minimalisation of competing values etc.  (although we progressives do not want minimalisation. we want perpetual discord).

Of course we progressives have superior values etc, such as drones strikes. This is progress.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread.

No, I've stayed on-topic

I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 10:30pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm: I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread. No, I've stayed on-topic I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue

So again, the sins of the the "right" get blamed on the "left".

So what, in your opinion, does the "left" need to do before the "right" can be held to account for their actions?

The left are always expected to do more, be better than the right, then the right always sook about being the victims.

Come on guys, stop being so pathetic...

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 10:30pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm: I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread. No, I've stayed on-topic I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue

Wrong, only when both sides leave behind their rigid ideological obsessions will the mess sort itself out. Sadly American political ’thinking’ is so stuck in the 1950’s there’s not much chance of anything sensible happening in the political realm.
Something I can’t get my head around though is the radical so called right being blind  to Trump sucking up to his boyfriend in Moscow.
Overlay this with fossilised racism and the idiocies embodied in the US constitution granting far, far too much power to the executive branch that nobody wants to see and America is on a downward spiral.
Oh well, at least there’s a slim chance Pete Buttigieg in his new role might just be able to push America into catching up with China’s world class rail system.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:17am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 10:30pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm: I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread. No, I've stayed on-topic I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue So again, the sins of the the "right" get blamed on the "left". So what, in your opinion, does the "left" need to do before the "right" can be held to account for their actions? The left are always expected to do more, be better than the right, then the right always sook about being the victims. Come on guys, stop being so pathetic...

Don't be hypocrites, stop the doublespeak, stop the censorship and cancel culture. Don't be snarly and deranged about people who do not agree with you. Stop the emotional incontinence.

With conservatives it's clear what they want to conserve, with progressives it's never clear WHAT they want to progress TO. It's just a relentless and mindless destruction and undermining  - see statue toppling, for example, and the rape of language for woke causes.

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 10:30pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm: I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread. No, I've stayed on-topic I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue Something I can’t get my head around though is the radical so called right being blind  to Trump sucking up to his boyfriend in Moscow.

;D

Like Martini in One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest, you are passing the ball to people only you can see.


Not saying that the bombing of the evil empire will star in 5 minutes is now 'sucking up' (even if only to give you another opportunity to mince outrageously)

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Something I can’t get my head around though is the radical so called right being blind  to Trump sucking up to his boyfriend in Moscow.

You might have something there -

"Interfax News Report on Biden’s Participation in Ukrainian Corruption

Here is a long report on Interfax News of an investigation into Ukrainian corruption that covers father and son Biden’s role in providing protection for corruption in exchange for money payments.  The report gives the larger picture of the extent of Ukrainian corruption.  It seems that it might be the case that Washington applies sanctions to those who participate in uncovering and revealing corruption involving US financial entities and persons."

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/12/29/interfax-news-report-on-bidens-participation-in-ukrainian-corruption/

;)

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Wrong, only when both sides leave behind their rigid ideological obsessions will the mess sort itself out.

That means much the same as what I said. "Deradicalize" is a general term, and now you've defined it down a bit by saying "leave behind rigid ideological obsessions"

So, both sides need to re-examine their ideologies and eject the more extreme aspects of them



Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Something I can’t get my head around though is the radical so called right being blind  to Trump sucking up to his boyfriend in Moscow.

Would you rather the US went to war against Russia?



Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Overlay this with fossilised racism and the idiocies embodied in the US constitution granting far, far too much power to the executive branch that nobody wants to see and America is on a downward spiral

This is an extreme generalization that needs ejecting from your psyche, and from your ideology, whatever your ideology is. It will be part of your deradicalization process

In case you didn't know, if all else fails in the US, all power then resides with the people, but the people will still need leaders, and those leaders will have to be non-partisan to get things back on track again, probably with further amendments to the Constitution. Every politician in the United States knows they can't usurp the power of the people, that's all the people, if the whole kit and kaboodle breaks down, and the people must be united for any major changes to occur peacefully, hence a need for softening of ideologies until they blend together somewhat, making them palatable to each and all sides


U.S. Constitution - Amendment 10
Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


What the people ought to demand now, is the removal of politics from the Office of the President, and leave politics to the individual States and Fed Congress. The President is there to defend the Constitution and the United States, not to bang on about pharmaceutical discounts, black lives matter and other divisive social issues inconsequential to the Presidents office. Presidents should shut up about them and just do the job they are meant to do, without being politically partisan

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 10:17am: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 10:30pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm: I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread. No, I've stayed on-topic I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue So again, the sins of the the "right" get blamed on the "left". So what, in your opinion, does the "left" need to do before the "right" can be held to account for their actions? The left are always expected to do more, be better than the right, then the right always sook about being the victims. Come on guys, stop being so pathetic... Don't be hypocrites, stop the doublespeak, stop the censorship and cancel culture. Don't be snarly and deranged about people who do not agree with you. Stop the emotional incontinence. With conservatives it's clear what they want to conserve, with progressives it's never clear WHAT they want to progress TO. It's just a relentless and mindless destruction and undermining  - see statue toppling, for example, and the rape of language for woke causes.

Quote:

With conservatives it's clear what they want to conserve

1956 ?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. Good hate, Comrade. Destroy them with jackboots or drones?

No penalty will encourage more sedition ?

Read again and see how little hate is there mostly positive to AOC.

lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 10:46am: Something I can’t get my head around though is the radical so called right being blind  to Trump sucking up to his boyfriend in Moscow. You might have something there - "Interfax News Report on Biden’s Participation in Ukrainian Corruption Here is a long report on Interfax News of an investigation into Ukrainian corruption that covers father and son Biden’s role in providing protection for corruption in exchange for money payments.  The report gives the larger picture of the extent of Ukrainian corruption.  It seems that it might be the case that Washington applies sanctions to those who participate in uncovering and revealing corruption involving US financial entities and persons." https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/12/29/interfax-news-report-on-bidens-participation-in-ukrainian-corruption/ ;)

Looks like Both Lee and Q believed this one ?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 5:17pm:

Would you rather the US went to war against Russia?

The only two alternatives are cuddling up to Putin as Trump did or war?


Quote:

What the people ought to demand now, is the removal of politics from the Office of the President, and leave politics to the individual States and Fed Congress. The President is there to defend the Constitution and the United States, not to bang on about pharmaceutical discounts, black lives matter and other divisive social issues inconsequential to the Presidents office. Presidents should shut up about them and just do the job they are meant to do, without being politically partisan

Until Trump opened the pandora’s box of executive power the possibility of a President running amok in a totally undemocratic manner wasn’t considered possible. Now that both sides of congress know it is, if they don’t alter the constitution to remove those powers, another megalomanic idiot from either side can wreak havoc.




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The 70 million + Americans that voted for Trump would mostly be good, decent people....The fringe that refuse to face reality or concede they were wrong will never accept the truth....I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo???

:-? :-? :-?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsmith/2020/12/23/americas-pre-biden-gun-spree-outstrips-supplies-for-ar-15s-ammo/?sh=2e44338063e4

Dnarever wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

Looks like Both Lee and Q believed this one ?

Good that you asked the question. No I don't believe Interfax the Russian news agency. The same as I didn't necessarily believe the Interfax report on he Chinese Vaccine. ;)

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

.I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo???

How many are Democrats? ;)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 6:45pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 2:27pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 10:17am: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 10:30pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm: I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread. No, I've stayed on-topic I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue So again, the sins of the the "right" get blamed on the "left". So what, in your opinion, does the "left" need to do before the "right" can be held to account for their actions? The left are always expected to do more, be better than the right, then the right always sook about being the victims. Come on guys, stop being so pathetic... Don't be hypocrites, stop the doublespeak, stop the censorship and cancel culture. Don't be snarly and deranged about people who do not agree with you. Stop the emotional incontinence. With conservatives it's clear what they want to conserve, with progressives it's never clear WHAT they want to progress TO. It's just a relentless and mindless destruction and undermining  - see statue toppling, for example, and the rape of language for woke causes. Quote: With conservatives it's clear what they want to conserve 1956 ?

You'd die if you had to be clear, concise and to the point, wouldn't you?

Ambiguity suits your dishonest reflexes. Sums up all of you bozos. Not an honest bone among the lot of you.

So again the left are being held to a higher standard than the right?

Stop being hypocrites?

Surely you jest?

lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:23pm: .I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo??? How many are Democrats? ;)

A lot of Democrats are first time gun buyers and most of them if asked say they voted for Trump. They are the ones responsible for the run on both!

The Gun Shops are not running low on firearms and ammunition, the ones I frequent are out as soon as a new shipment arrives! Everything plastic is gone or on back order. They know Biden is bringing chaos and they think this will help them protect their families.

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 11:54pm:

lee wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:40pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:23pm: .I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo??? How many are Democrats? ;) A lot of Democrats are first time gun buyers and most of them if asked say they voted for Trump. They are the ones responsible for the run on both! The Gun Shops are not running low on firearms and ammunition, the ones I frequent are out as soon as a new shipment arrives! Everything plastic is gone or on back order. They know Biden is bringing chaos and they think this will help them protect their families.

Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:

Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate???

So give us your representative numbers phil.

Edit: "The latest Rasmussen survey has some very interesting findings regarding those who acknowledge being gun owners or buying a gun. Two-in-five Democrat likely voters say they (or someone in their household) own a gun, as do 35% of liberals and 36% of those likely voters who say they strongly disapprove of President Trump. These three data points, with some amount of overlap between them, indicate that firearms are not the totem of aging conservative Republicans that anti-gun activists would have you believe. Interestingly, household ownership was higher among those aged 18-39 (49%) than among those 65 and above (41%).

Rasmussen Reports also asked self-identified gun owners, “Have you or anyone in your household purchased a gun within the last six months?” The demographic groups saying yes support the evidence that the latest surge has brought a wealth of new gun owners into our community. Female gun owners were more likely than men to say yes (32% to 23%). Those aged 18 to 39 were more than twice as likely as the older cohorts to say yes (42% for age 18-39). Nearly half of black gun owners (47%) said yes, compared to 22% of white respondents. Democrat likely voters were the most likely political affiliation group to say they had bought a gun in the last six months (36% – 13 percentage points higher than Republicans) and liberals were the ideological group most likely to say that they or someone in their household purchased a gun in the last six months (30%, compared to 22% of conservatives)."

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/20/gun-ownership-survey-results-show-surprising-trends/

Dated August

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA.

The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak.
Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored.
The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system.
The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so.
Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you.

lee wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 9:46pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 8:31pm: Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate??? So give us your representative numbers phil. Edit: "The latest Rasmussen survey has some very interesting findings regarding those who acknowledge being gun owners or buying a gun. Two-in-five Democrat likely voters say they (or someone in their household) own a gun, as do 35% of liberals and 36% of those likely voters who say they strongly disapprove of President Trump. These three data points, with some amount of overlap between them, indicate that firearms are not the totem of aging conservative Republicans that anti-gun activists would have you believe. Interestingly, household ownership was higher among those aged 18-39 (49%) than among those 65 and above (41%). Rasmussen Reports also asked self-identified gun owners, “Have you or anyone in your household purchased a gun within the last six months?” The demographic groups saying yes support the evidence that the latest surge has brought a wealth of new gun owners into our community. Female gun owners were more likely than men to say yes (32% to 23%). Those aged 18 to 39 were more than twice as likely as the older cohorts to say yes (42% for age 18-39). Nearly half of black gun owners (47%) said yes, compared to 22% of white respondents. Democrat likely voters were the most likely political affiliation group to say they had bought a gun in the last six months (36% – 13 percentage points higher than Republicans) and liberals were the ideological group most likely to say that they or someone in their household purchased a gun in the last six months (30%, compared to 22% of conservatives)." https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/20/gun-ownership-survey-results-show-surprising-trends/ Dated August

Daily caller....Dickhead!!!

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 11:54pm: lee wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:40pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 7:23pm: .I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo??? How many are Democrats? ;) A lot of Democrats are first time gun buyers and most of them if asked say they voted for Trump. They are the ones responsible for the run on both! The Gun Shops are not running low on firearms and ammunition, the ones I frequent are out as soon as a new shipment arrives! Everything plastic is gone or on back order. They know Biden is bringing chaos and they think this will help them protect their families. Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate??? :-? :-? :-?

It has been posted before gun sales are record highs this year since BLM riots and defund police nonsense.

Ammo is also in short supply because of record gun sales.

All the Trump supporters i know are well stocked those from the centre - right don't need anything the vast majority of new buyers are in Democrat voters.

Ooops - sometimes phil - like LTYC and Valkie - is right... not this time it seems...

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argue and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you.

yes.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:38pm:

Daily caller....Dickhead!!!

Quoting the Rasmussen Report dickhead. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Poor phil. Reduced to shooting the messenger. With a popgun.;D ;D ;D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Etaq6xfUcAA-lyH?.jpg

I like Yadda takes a statement which only infers a certain proportion of a group ar white supremacists and assumes it means all the group are white supremacists

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 12:41pm:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Etaq6xfUcAA-lyH?.jpg

Easy to scar the Q shaman. Give him processed food.

Sleepy comrade Joe needs to be de-radicalized, he just made enemies out of about five foreign nations going by his latest speech

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you.

she's very knowledgeable on vegetables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4jhMNMJwU&t=26s

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 1:02pm:

Sleepy comrade Joe needs to be de-radicalized, he just made enemies out of about five foreign nations going by his latest speech

Should we start a list of all the things your dumb ass supported when T**** was President that you now think are bad when it's Biden?

Perhaps Biden should start unwinnable trade wars and lie about how he's winning so much?

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 2:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 10:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argue and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you. she's very knowledgeable on vegetables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4jhMNMJwU&t=26s

The 'Latin American community' shouldn't flood into America illegally and then tell Americans how to grow yucca instead of, I dunno, cauliflower.... 

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 2:21pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 1:02pm: Sleepy comrade Joe needs to be de-radicalized, he just made enemies out of about five foreign nations going by his latest speech Should we start a list of all the things your dumb ass supported when T**** was President that you now think are bad when it's Biden? Perhaps Biden should start unwinnable trade wars and lie about how he's winning so much?

Unwinnable trade war?

You are for China dependency, no balls scrotum (sad)?

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 2:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 10:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you. she's very knowledgeable on vegetables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4jhMNMJwU&t=26s

Yes she is, I didn't get what the problem was ?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 6:45pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 2:05pm: Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 10:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you. she's very knowledgeable on vegetables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4jhMNMJwU&t=26s Yes she is, I didn't get what the problem was ?

she got caught lying that she was "in fear for her life" during the capitol building riots and then it was found she wasnt in the building at the time  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What is the problem with trying to help these poor souls who believed and still believe that the election was stolen ? People willing to storm the capital over a lie or more accurately 4 years of lies.

Clearly they need help why should they not get it ?

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 6:45pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 2:05pm: Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 10:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you. she's very knowledgeable on vegetables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4jhMNMJwU&t=26s Yes she is, I didn't get what the problem was ? she got caught lying that she was "in fear for her life" during the capitol building riots and then it was found she wasnt in the building at the time  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She was in one of the connected buildings which was also evacuated. Your point has no meaning.

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you.

Old boy, you're just a silly old Nazi. Everybody wants to see you people eliminated. Conservatives, the lot. You're an inferior subspecies.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, of course.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 6:49pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 6:45pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 2:05pm: Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 10:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you. she's very knowledgeable on vegetables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4jhMNMJwU&t=26s Yes she is, I didn't get what the problem was ? she got caught lying that she was "in fear for her life" during the capitol building riots and then it was found she wasnt in the building at the time  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D She was in one of the connected buildings which was also evacuated. Your point has no meaning.

Unless she wasn't scared for her life but she just wanted to get her head on.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:07pm:

the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china.

So you're saying 'the left' (whoever they are) are going to incarcerate Trump supporters in concentration camps, confiscate their property, gang rape them, murder them and harvest their organs?

You're out of your depth on political forums.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 6^th, 2021 at 12:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 7:15pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 6:49pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 6:45pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2021 at 2:05pm: Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2021 at 10:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:43pm: To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue. A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.  You guys really think that nothing should be done ? AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment. Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA. The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak. Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored. The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system. The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so. Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you. she's very knowledgeable on vegetables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4jhMNMJwU&t=26s Yes she is, I didn't get what the problem was ? she got caught lying that she was "in fear for her life" during the capitol building riots and then it was found she wasnt in the building at the time  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D She was in one of the connected buildings which was also evacuated. Your point has no meaning. Unless she wasn't scared for her life but she just wanted to get her head on.

The protesters went straight for those tunnels, this was well reported on from the beginning. The reason why so many suspect an inside job was that they knew where to go to find people.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 6^th, 2021 at 8:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:07pm: the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china. So you're saying 'the left' (whoever they are) are going to incarcerate Trump supporters in concentration camps, confiscate their property, gang rape them, murder them and harvest their organs? You're out of your depth on political forums.

No, he's saying he'd respect "the left" if they did.

Aquascoot believes in totalitarianism. He thinks the Chinese Communist Party have got the balance right.

He sometimes even forgets they pretend to be "the left".

Ignoring the thread posts re: the OP...

There is probably no way you can but it's the same for the nutty left. You can't deradicalise them, you have to just provide a new #bandwagon for them to jump onto.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 6^th, 2021 at 8:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 5:07pm: the left have plans for the 75 million members of the trump cult. they want to take away their guns, throw their commander in chief in the slammer (after cutting his communications)  and then treat them like the uyghirs in china. So you're saying 'the left' (whoever they are) are going to incarcerate Trump supporters in concentration camps, confiscate their property, gang rape them, murder them and harvest their organs? You're out of your depth on political forums.

Hes out of depth getting out of bed in the morning.

Setanta wrote on Feb 6^th, 2021 at 7:12pm:

Ignoring the thread posts re: the OP... There is probably no way you can but it's the same for the nutty left. You can't deradicalise them, you have to just provide a new #bandwagon for them to jump onto.

The radical left if there is any such thing have never tried to overthrow democracy, Are not comprised of and dependant on Q and white supremacists. The Left have never refused to accept a fair election result and in fact have even accepted a few unfair election results.