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General Discussion >> Technically Speaking >> Motorbikes http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1610415791 Message started by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 11:43am |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by aquascoot on Jan 12th, 2021 at 12:09pm
wide choice gordon.
honda make the best engines. my current rides are a klr 650 (2007) and a Vstrom 650 (2019) as well as a dr 200 for the paddock work. you cant beat a jap adventure tourer for reliability |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 12:15pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 12:09pm:
How's the KLR? I'd probably go a DR because I've never owned a Kwaka. I had a bunch of Suzukis then Hondas. I bought a 1000 Firestorm then thought I needed something with higher performance so traded it for a Fireblade, had fun on it for a year, was happy I was still alive then traded for another Firestorm ;D |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by aquascoot on Jan 12th, 2021 at 1:18pm
i had a DR 650 which got stolen.
good solid bike. great engine the KLR has 50,000 k's. all i have done is oil and filter every 5k. the rubber indicator mountings perished and had to replace those . otherwise a very reliable bike. a bit heavier then the DR (maybe 160 kg as opposed to 125kg) but the extra weight actually helps on the highway with a side breeze. the new vstrom is fuel injected and a twin so smoother. and end of year run out was $10 k drive away. suzuki make very good engines. the big four jap bike brands are all super good. you pay a bit of a premium for hondas. the old honda XR's were indestrucible. the new honda CRF's are too high tech. need more maintenance, shims, cam adjustments. the high honda you have pictured (is that a transalp) are very very good. i would not buy a bmw. they are made in spain or turkey, not in germany and they are over-engineered rolling piles of junk |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by J.D. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 4:45pm
Try beating a postie bike for simplicity longevity reliability and economy, not good on the freeway though.
Postie bike racing is big these days. Z900.JPG (40 KB | 18
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Yadda on Jan 12th, 2021 at 7:01pm Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 11:43am:
I did it twice ['there and back', twice !], on a Honda CX500 vee-500cc, shaft drive. Didn't lay a spanner on it, all the way, there and back [apart from oil change]. A lovely bike to ride. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 7:37pm
My last bike was the same: model, year and colour as this one
but mine had a better motor that didn't rattle so much. It had lower handlebars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-nhoQmHeY At 3:13 he red lines it in 1st, 2nd & 3rd - that must have been close to 100mph. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:00pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 7:37pm:
That bike is enough to turn anyone off motorbikes. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:04pm Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:00pm:
Why? |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:07pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:04pm:
Terrible handling, peaky power profile. Have you ridden a modern bike? |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:10pm Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
Not really - I rode a Kawasaki GPZ 550 back in the 80s but it wasn't that exciting - just a work horse. Here's the Kawasaki H2 750 in drag bike form doing a 1/4 mile in 7.99 seconds at 154 mph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpE0pNFGHWw |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:18pm
:) One of my, this is a 2006, I had a 2004.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-SUw0uYr8E |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:27pm Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:18pm:
That's a very nice modern bike. Like all the large bikes - you can't legally use the power. I wish we had Autobahns. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:27pm
This was the last bike Jap I owned
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/honda/vtr1000-firestorm/1997/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LIqs9xaQgU |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:28pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:27pm:
Have a look at the VTR1000 below. I had a lot less power than the CBR but being a Vtwin, it's just so cruisy and nice to ride. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:39pm Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 8:28pm:
Yes - very nice indeed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VTR1000F I'd like to have a ride on a bike but I don't think I'd want to own one now. I'm sort of glad that I survived my motorcycle days in one piece. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 9:31pm
Speed limits on roads in Greece:
Unless otherwise specified, speed limits are 50 km/h (or 32 mph) on residential streets, 90 km/h (56 mph) out of town and 110-120 km/h (69-75 mph) on highways and freeways (motorways). HAYABUSA RİDER....on Greece roads... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrU1omZJN4 |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2021 at 9:40pm
That's bananas on a public road.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 9:48pm Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 9:40pm:
Yes 290km/hr. The story has been the same since bikes were invented. There will always be someone who will wind the throttle as far as it will rotate and take the bike to as fast as it will go. If the bike went 400 km/hr I'm sure that they would go that fast too. What about 500km/hr if it was possible? |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 12th, 2021 at 10:04pm Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 7:01pm:
Wow, well done. yes, a japanese bike |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 10:06pm
More Hayabusa madness:
Hayabusa 2nd gear roll - before accelerating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDmWy4IEbfI |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 12th, 2021 at 10:49pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 10:06pm:
The Hayabusa is old tech try something newer. A 2020 GSXR 600 with do 280 Kph, the 750 is good for 295Kph and the 1000 300+Kph. The new 600s put out about 125 bhp which is on par with a GPZ1100 i had 30 years ago, doesn't have the bottom or mid range power of the 1100 yet will match it for top speed. The new 1000 cc Jap bikes are very user friendly you have traction control and anti wheelie this guy is using level 4 TC anti wheelie which means the front wheel will stay down you need to turn it down to at least 2 to pull massive wheelies 1 is even wilder i don't think i would turn off TC anti wheelie. Take note of the 4 under middle digit on speedo that shows which mode it's in. It does 260 redlined in 4th gear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B1QmI5JXmE I go for a ride on track days at Eastern Creek friends lend me their bikes you can open it up legally without worrying about idiots in cars. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 11:06pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 10:49pm:
That bike looks nice. You're very lucky. I'd like to have a go on a track where I wouldn't have to worry about losing my license. I would like to see some 1/4 mile drag racing. WORLD RECORD RAW FOOTAGE AND SOUND! LARRY “SPIDERMAN” MCBRIDE GOES 5.50s at 264 MPH ON TOP FUEL BIKE! Jump to 3:19 to see the run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BkI7nfdtDs |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 12th, 2021 at 11:20pm
I prefer doing 10 lap runs around Eastern Creek much better than 5.5 seconds and it's all over drag racing doesn't appeal to me.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2021 at 11:24pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 11:20pm:
I like to watch all bike racing: drag racing, speedway, road racing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWp9rhfS_0 |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:22pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 12th, 2021 at 11:20pm:
When I had the Fireblade, I hardly used it on the road, mostly at EC. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:25pm |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:36pm |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Redmond Neck on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:41pm Gordon wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:25pm:
I had two Suzukis A GSX250 1981 model I think, a model before the one shown in the image I think, (if that is a 250 which it may not be.) They had a 250 that looked like that Also had a Suzuki 250cc trail bike pre 1970 cant recall the model name! |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Redmond Neck on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:51pm
Anyway my BMW R1150RT would easy pull 180kM with 2 up as I have done!
More stupid it was on a double demerits weekend! Anyway bloody smart arse went flying past us on a Hyabusa ::) |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 13th, 2021 at 6:00pm Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:41pm:
The one on the left is an '84 Katana 750. A real show pony, not particularly fast and handled pretty badly. Still nice to own as it was just stunning to look at. On the right is an '82 Katana GS650 shafty. and one of my favourite bikes ever. I actually used it as a commuter while I had the fireblade and the VTR1000 and ended up keeping it for 10 years. Wish I still had it. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 13th, 2021 at 6:04pm Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:51pm:
I was once doing just around 180 on the freeway and had a Yamy R1 pass me, one one wheel ;D |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 13th, 2021 at 6:10pm Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:51pm:
Busa riders are temporary citizens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muibApELvt8 |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Mix_Master on Jan 13th, 2021 at 6:40pm
Have lost count of the number of 'bikes I've owned over the years...
Have had a couple of "track bikes" (a Yamaha YZF600r and an '05 Blade). Frankly, I wasn't that good, and ended up selling them. Good enough to keep the shiny side up (road or track), but not setting any records. Would have loved to do Superbike school at Phillip Island on that Blade...not to be, unfortunately. Would have def. helped my track work... These days, I have a 1999 "5th Gen" VFR800, with more stuff added to it/changed on it than I care to think about. Most done by the previous - and original - owner. 136,000kms on the engine, and it'll be good for another 136,000, with routine maintanence. Very under-stressed engine with gear-driven cams. No timing chain tensioners or other rubbish to worry about. Unfortunately, no good riding roads where we are, so the 'bike's a bit of a garage queen ATM. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:05pm |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:08pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:05pm: Nastolgia for a bygone early of machinery that broke down...a lot. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:10pm Mix_Master wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
I did ride a VFR when I flipped the blade back for a VTR1000. I'd probably like one now but at the time it felt a bit Toyota Camry to me :) |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:21pm
I've had ride on one of these, not my cup of tea to own but was a whole lotta fun for a quick blast.
V-Boost is a system that opens butterfly valves in the intake manifold between the 1st and 2nd and between the 3rd and 4th cylinders starting from 5,750 rpm. The valves are opened gradually to match the rising engine speed with a signal provided by the ignition system. The valves are at the full open position at 8,000 rpm. A small black box sends a computed signal to a servo motor that pulls a wire to open the butterfly valves. The V-Boost system adds 10 percent to the top power rating of the base engine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_VMAX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI3Rx3HdF0s |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by aquascoot on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm
you might be a bit young to remember then gordy, but the little 250 2 strokes,'
the rd 250/350 from yamaha and particularly the suzuki rgv 250 were incredible bikes. some engineering whiz in japan made the exhausts and they would cough and splutter up to 4000 rpm and then they would take off like a scalded cat. great looking bike for something over 30 years old rgv.jpg (9 KB | 16
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 13th, 2021 at 9:22pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
My first road bike was a RD250LC we were restricted to 250 cc on L plates The RGV was good Kawasaki also did a 250 2 stroke the KR1. The Yamaha RZ 250/350 were better than the RD being newer. Yamaha also did a RZ 500 4cyl 2 stroke 500 Cc Suzuki did a RG500. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lniZg9NoTnw |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Mix_Master on Jan 13th, 2021 at 9:30pm Gordon wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:10pm:
Probably a fair enough description in stock form. (Just as reliable as one, too ;) ) Like most Hondas, the mechanicals are very well engineered, the build quality is the best of the bunch, but they skimped on brakes (and added the un-needed LBS), and suspension. Fix the suspension and brakes, drop some weight from them (rider, slip-on etc.) and they can be hussled reasonably well. They're no sports bike, of course, but as an all rounder - that lasts - they're still tough to beat. And with an aftermarket exhaust, probably still one of the best sounding motorcycles out there (IMHO, of course). |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 13th, 2021 at 9:42pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 9:22pm:
I ride one of those on a test ride - it didn't pull anywhere near as well as that one. ( my H2 750 triple was much quicker than the RG500 I rode) I think it's a heavily modified one as per here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsgWlP_3WHk |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Mix_Master on Jan 13th, 2021 at 9:55pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 9:22pm:
Sounds like most of us are old enough to have gotten our 'bike licences when things were a little *ahem* laxer. True story. I got my Ls in the late 80s (for a bike) in Canberra. Because I had a full car licence, I was allowed to ride anything I liked, but 'cos I was broke, went through an XT200, and a VT250, before eventually buying an '85 FJ1100. Booked in to do the licence test, which in those days meant going to the Dickson Motor Registry, and one of their instructors would "escort" the licence candidates to Natex (National Exhibition Centre), set up some witches hats, watch you do some basic manoeuvres and escort you back to the Registry, where you'd (hopefully) get your 'bike endorsement on your licence. That particular day, there were three of us; the instructor myself and another licence candidate - both obviously on our Ls. The instructor was on a Kawasaki 750 (can't remember what for the life of me), I was on the FJ1100 (with L plate dangling off the back...only time I'd had it on the bike the entire time I'd ridden it!), and the other licence candidate...was on a Suzuki RG500 two-stroke (also with the obligatory L plate hanging off the back. Yep, the bike that Suzuki based on the world 500cc championship bikes of the era... :o Different times... ;D |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 13th, 2021 at 10:03pm Gordon wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 5:22pm:
I don't think i could control myself on the road probably lose my license again so just hop on the M4 to EC which is much nicer since they extended it. Oran park was my favorite track. I raced go karts for a while won a championship lots of fun and pretty quick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbfaG8N7IDU We don't have street races in Australia after Nicole Franks died at Woollongong street race. Coronial report said waay to dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6rXSjpdLz0 |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 13th, 2021 at 10:15pm Mix_Master wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 9:55pm:
Yes things were a bit laxer in the good old days. When i was a teenager the police trail bike squad had 4 stroke Yamaha TT250's they rarely caught anyone any kid on a YZ80 or bigger could leave them in their trail of dust. Motocross was a lot of fun amazing how the suspension soaks up the bumps last dirt bike was a YZ250. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 14th, 2021 at 11:53am aquascoot wrote on Jan 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
By the time I started riding bikes they were 10 years old, some relics around but 2 strokes don't age well. I do remember seeing a 500cc 2 stroke out at Eastern Creek. It was a weapon and the guy riding it really knew what he was doing |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by aquascoot on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:04pm
the invention of the power valve was a big step forward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRo7_M-UqPY |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 14th, 2021 at 8:04pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2021 at 7:04pm:
And then on some 2 strokes there are Reed Valves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzTG3_6mBd8 |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gnads on Jan 15th, 2021 at 12:29pm
My first motorcycle was a Honda 90 Sport when I was 17.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gnads on Jan 15th, 2021 at 12:31pm
I got my open bike license a year later and bought one of these second/third hand.....
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gnads on Jan 15th, 2021 at 12:33pm
A couple of years later with all my mates going trail bike riding I traded it in on a new 1976 TS250 Suzuki Trail bike .....
now that was a good old bike ...... I should have kept it. ts_250.jpg (33 KB | 19
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gnads on Jan 15th, 2021 at 12:36pm
My last bike was a 2nd hand GR650 twin Suzuki...
which I had for about 10 years .... when my job location got shifted 15 klm out of town.... I sold it and bought my first 4x4 ute. Suzuki-GR-650.jpg (41 KB | 17
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Mix_Master on Jan 15th, 2021 at 1:24pm
The '05 Blade I had as a track bike some years back.
Bought it as a stat writeoff (it had been laid down and something had put a small ding in the frame = instant stat writeoff). Keen observers will look at it and think "That's an '06/'07 model". It isn't. The original fairings were mostly trashed one side, and I was put onto these ones (locally in Canberra) for an '06. More screwing around to make them fit than I'd thought there was (quite a few "under the skin changes between '05 and '06). Still reckon the '06/'07 'Blades with the centre-up exhaust are the best looking ones they've made... Anyhow, like all the litre bikes, more than quick enough. I'd hit third gear at Wakefield down the main straight, and be doing North of 200KPH at the bottom of third... IMG_3355.gif (74 KB | 13
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 15th, 2021 at 6:56pm Gnads wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 12:36pm:
That looks like the kind of bike that does nothing special, but a joy to ride. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 15th, 2021 at 6:56pm
Set, where's your contribution.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 15th, 2021 at 8:02pm
When I worked in Viet, the bike to own was the Russian 125cc Минск 'Minsk'.
They were good for about 90km flat chat which is way faster than you'd want to go on a Vietnamese road. The engines didn't last long but you could get a top end done for $25 and a total rebuild for less than $100. If they used original Russian parts the engine would go for ages but there were some really crap Chinese knockoff parts that would last a week. The bikes could be had for about $200 and I owned 4 of them. The first was a really tricked up cafe racer look but it attracted too much attention. One ride I was on, I was in the countryside and an old Viet dude was admiring it, he was on a totally stock Ag model that looked in great condition, so I asked if he wanted to swap and he did. He loved the one I traded as it was so full of bling and looked pretty cool. The one I got looked exactly like this. Then I picked up what they called the sport model which had better suspension and travel and slightly bigger so I could stretch out, so it was good for extended bike trips. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by 0ktema on Jan 16th, 2021 at 2:15am
1982 Yamaha XJ 750 seca.
Many adventures were had and it never let me down - I did lay it down a few times though! Bull-dust, mud ,mountains and flooded creeks, this mighty bike tackled them all. The shaft drive made touring a dream and from what I'm aware it was one of the first bikes to come out with anti-dive for the front brakes. (Haven't got a good photo so this will have to do. Image is missing a bikini fairing, gear rack and a few scratches.) |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by 0ktema on Jan 17th, 2021 at 3:26am
oops :)
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:42am
Me - standing next to my bike:
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gordon on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:16am Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:42am:
Were you being robbed? |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:22am Gordon wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 8:16am:
I was joking with my friend. He was holding the camera like a gun. :) Bobby with H2 750 Kawasaki. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 17th, 2021 at 2:11pm
Here's another pic of me with my H1 500 Kawasaki -
that was from the mid 1980s. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gnads on Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:11pm Gordon wrote on Jan 15th, 2021 at 6:56pm:
Yeah it was an easy ride bike, only was it was electric start only ..... if the battery failed there was no kick start. It was far better to ride than that rough pig 750 Four Honda. it's first owner was an ex-policeman who became the motorbike license testing officer with the Transport Dept. He retired & retired the bike too. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Gnads on Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:14pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 2:11pm:
;D Decked out in all the leather gear on your "ningna ning na ninger". I rode around with shorts, sometimes jeans, thongs, somethings joggers..... and no more than an army surplus coat when required. |
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Title: Re: Motorbikes Post by Bobby. on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:07pm Gnads wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:14pm:
I didn't always wear full leathers. I always had a minimum of jeans on and a leather jacket with gloves & boots. Thongs are madness on a bike - I would never have ridden like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nYZHeP6Gcs |
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