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Message started by cods on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:14am

Title: This is amusing...
Post by cods on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:14am
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/a-green-agrees-nothing-green-ever-works/news-story/d354434792487d8723d69572f7674b7c


Academic and Canberra resident Hamilton is a former Greens candidate who has evidently reached his limit of tolerance for green goofiness:

Electric scooters are supposed to be a green alternative to polluting vehicles, but a lifecycle analysis by German researchers showed that these short-lived and resource-intensive vehicles have higher carbon emissions than diesel buses and hybrid cars, and are only marginally better than petrol-powered motorbikes.

In Canberra, as elsewhere, part of their carbon cost arises from the fleet of diesel vans that drive around the city each day fishing the scooters out of the lake, replacing their batteries and transporting them to popular hubs.

The devices are, however, extremely efficient at hurting people:

Within three months of their launch, Canberra's hospitals had 60 e-scooter riders presenting at accident and emergency departments (where ACT taxpayers foot the bill) ...

These scooters have sent more Canberrans to hospital than has the coronavirus, and in much less time.

Around the world, serious accidents involving e-scooters have become such a danger that countries like Germany and Singapore and cities like San Francisco and Paris are banning them, on footpaths or outright.

Riding an e-scooter through San Francisco would be … interesting. You need at least a Mustang to stand even half a chance around that place.

Canberra's experiment with rental e-scooters has failed. Like other enlightened cities around the world, we should ban them.

Just like Bob Brown, Hamilton seems to be an eco-nimby.



and they look so cool!!!!

Title: Re: This is amusing...
Post by The_Barnacle on Jan 10th, 2021 at 10:07am

Quote:
In Canberra, as elsewhere, part of their carbon cost arises from the fleet of diesel vans that drive around the city each day fishing the scooters out of the lake, replacing their batteries and transporting them to popular hubs.


So the issue isn't with the scooters themselves, it's with people's behaviour

You should know by now that the Murdoch media are apologists for the fossil fuel industry and are always campaigning against anything that might hurt their profits.

Its no wonder your view on the world is so skewed when it seems you totally rely on the Daily Telegraph for you news

Title: Re: This is amusing...
Post by lee on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:43am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 10:07am:
So the issue isn't with the scooters themselves, it's with people's behaviour



You mean like leaving them at points where there is not as much requirement, leaving them to be transported to different spots? eg a big requirement at say a spot on the lake and much smaller requirements at drop off points. Or shouldn't we look at that picture?


Title: Re: This is amusing...
Post by The_Barnacle on Jan 10th, 2021 at 12:12pm

lee wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 11:43am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 10:07am:
So the issue isn't with the scooters themselves, it's with people's behaviour



You mean like leaving them at points where there is not as much requirement, leaving them to be transported to different spots? eg a big requirement at say a spot on the lake and much smaller requirements at drop off points. Or shouldn't we look at that picture?


Are you drunk?
You post makes JaSin and Yadda's posts seem logical and well thought out

Title: Re: This is amusing...
Post by lee on Jan 10th, 2021 at 1:21pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 12:12pm:
Are you drunk?
You post makes JaSin and Yadda's posts seem logical and well thought out



Poor petal. He just can't find the words. What did you think wrong petal? That there were no "hotspot" for pickups? That there were no "hotspots" for dropoffs? That the "hotspots" were the same so it made no difference?

So apart from your shoot from the lip "style"; you have no cogent reasoning? ::)

If it was that "dropoffs" included in the lake, they could be picked up while doing the other rounds.

Title: Re: This is amusing...
Post by cods on Jan 10th, 2021 at 1:29pm

lee wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 1:21pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 12:12pm:
Are you drunk?
You post makes JaSin and Yadda's posts seem logical and well thought out



Poor petal. He just can't find the words. What did you think wrong petal? That there were no "hotspot" for pickups? That there were no "hotspots" for dropoffs? That the "hotspots" were the same so it made no difference?

So apart from your shoot from the lip "style"; you have no cogent reasoning? ::)

If it was that "dropoffs" included in the lake, they could be picked up while doing the other rounds.



ahh the usual abuse    :-/ :-/ :-/ not surprised...hes another one that turns the whole forum into a playground for bullies.......

havent seen any being dragged out of the lake so far....I am sure it happens  there are after all spiteful ridiculous people everywhere... but as far as I know there are no rules about where to leave them   and I thought that was the whole purpose...they look terrific and I would love to have a go if I was younger... I just thought this article was funny as it backfires on everything the invention was created to do....

perhaps barny isnt interested in that aspect!

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