The COVID-19 vaccine is the big pharma developed treatment to prevent the spread of the COVID-19 infection....


WWW search....
allergic shock, to use of covid vaccine


WWW search....
serious allergic reaction to COVID-19 vaccine


WWW search....
COVID-19 vaccine contains "polyethylene glycol"


polyethylene glycol, it "wouldn't hurt a fly"



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NOT a big pharma treatment for preventing and curing COVID-19 infection....

Doctor claims Ivermectin triple therapy is 'amazingly effective' in treating COVID-19            08 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jI7Gl3yic

and....
Ivermectin treatment is a ‘real killer of coronavirus’: Professor            08 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs


But in Australia, 'our' government is preventing public access to the Ivermectin treatment for COVID-19.

Vested interests.


Ivermectin is a medication used to treat many types of parasite infestations.[3] This includes head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis, and lymphatic filariasis.[3][4][5][6] It can be taken by mouth or applied to the skin for external infestations.[3][7] Use in the eyes should be avoided.[3]
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Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and came into medical use in 1981.[9][10] It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines.[11] Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic agent.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin



https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/

https://i.ibb.co/wBP95d8/covid-19-AE.jpg

https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download

I'll be taking the vaccine as soon as possible.

Sleeve up, bung it in please.  8-)

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:11am:

I'll be taking the vaccine as soon as possible. Sleeve up, bung it in please.  8-)

I doubt I'll ever roll my sleeve up for it.

Unless, of course, things get totally out of hand.

At the moment though, natural precautions are working just fine for me.

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:11am:

I'll be taking the vaccine as soon as possible. Sleeve up, bung it in please.  8-)

Good  luck with that.

You would risk 22 other conditions to be immune to covid-19.

They dont even know how long this vaccine works for it could up to 30 days maybe 6 months.

Is it worth it...........???

I'm starting to have doubts. 

Not only do I think it will help to end the pandemic, but I have selfish motives too ... I intend to fly overseas in the coming few years and without proof of vaccination, I reckon I won't be permitted to fly.  ;)

Ajax wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:19am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:11am: I'll be taking the vaccine as soon as possible. Sleeve up, bung it in please.  8-) Good  luck with that. You would risk 22 other conditions to be immune to covid-19. They dont even know how long this vaccine works for it could up to 30 days maybe 6 months. Is it worth it...........??? I'm starting to have doubts.

I wouldn't rule it out completely, and I would never discourage anyone else from getting it if that's what they want.

For me though, it's the last resort.

I'll keep washing my hands, maintaining safe distances from other people, avoiding large crowds, working from home, and wearing a mask (if required).

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:22am:

Not only do I think it will help to end the pandemic, but I have selfish motives too ... I intend to fly overseas in the coming few years and without proof of vaccination, I reckon I won't be permitted to fly.  ;)

Yes, that's where I might run in to difficulty.

I have to travel back to Europe sometime in the future, and I'm guessing I'll need a jab to be able to do so.

For now though, I'll wait and see.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:22am:

Ajax wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:19am: Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:11am: I'll be taking the vaccine as soon as possible. Sleeve up, bung it in please.  8-) Good  luck with that. You would risk 22 other conditions to be immune to covid-19. They dont even know how long this vaccine works for it could up to 30 days maybe 6 months. Is it worth it...........??? I'm starting to have doubts.  I wouldn't rule it out completely, and I would never discourage anyone else from getting it if that's what they want. For me though, it's the last resort. I'll keep washing my hands, maintaining safe distances from other people, avoiding large crowds, working from home, and wearing a mask (if required).

That's just me monologuing with myself not saying people shouldn't get it.

I'm still twisted as to yes or no.

oh gawd now its the doom and gloom show...

I am so over this virus PANIC....its ruling our lives  even when you have no contact and no chance of getting it...bllllllllllllah.....ACT  hasnt had a case in such a long time the ones they have had have all to do with the Diplomatic dept  and I am sure they wouldnt be caught dead in woollies..they are just locked away, as they should be.

cods wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:47am:

oh gawd now its the doom and gloom show... I am so over this virus PANIC....its ruling our lives  even when you have no contact and no chance of getting it...bllllllllllllah.....ACT  hasnt had a case in such a long time the ones they have had have all to do with the Diplomatic dept  and I am sure they wouldnt be caught dead in woollies..they are just locked away, as they should be.

If one of them's got then 10 of them have got it.

I think you're going to need a lot more than one jab

QUESTION;
IF WE ALL LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHICH PURPORTS TO GRANT MANY FREEDOMS [OF CHOICE] TO THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CITIZENS,
and if we are, in fact, all men and women, living in freedom, in Australia;
Why won't the Government allow Australians who want to, to 'sign a release', and have access to the Ivermectin triple therapy, developed by Doctor Thomas Brody and his team ?




Doctor claims Ivermectin triple therapy is 'amazingly effective' in treating COVID-19
08 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jI7Gl3yic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jI7Gl3yic



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Ivermectin treatment is a ‘real killer of coronavirus’: Professor
08 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs

Yadda wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 2:19pm:

QUESTION; IF WE ALL LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHICH PURPORTS TO GRANT MANY FREEDOMS [OF CHOICE] TO THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CITIZENS, and if we are, in fact, all men and women, living in freedom, in Australia; Why won't the Government allow Australians who want to, to 'sign a release', and have access to the Ivermectin triple therapy, developed by Doctor Thomas Brody and his team ? Doctor claims Ivermectin triple therapy is 'amazingly effective' in treating COVID-19 08 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jI7Gl3yic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jI7Gl3yic . Ivermectin treatment is a ‘real killer of coronavirus’: Professor 08 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs

Seriously bugger off with this ivermectin rubbish

he seriously put youtube vids up as his source?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 4:09pm:

he seriously put youtube vids up as his source?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Har har, it is to laugh.



The YT's present arguments, by protagonists.



But hey, YOUR pov must be the correct one anyway.

Because it is YOUR pov.

So we should dismiss any other pov [which others may express].

Right ?


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Dictionary;
protagonist = =
1 the leading character or one of the major characters in a drama, film, or novel.      a prominent figure in a real situation.
2 an advocate or champion of a particular cause or idea.


Dictionary;
arrogance = = having an exaggerated sense of one’s own importance or abilities.

Yadda would be promoting injections with cow turds if his handler commended.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 10:28pm:

Yadda would be promoting injections with cow turds if his handler commended.

Great argument LTYC.

How long did it take, for you to think that one up ?         :o         :D


:P

'If 60 million people in the UK have the vaccine we can expect 1.67 million to be unable to work, unable to perform normal daily activities and to require care ... If 6 billion people worldwide have the vaccine then the number rises to 167 million, and this is a short-term problem. We don't know what will happen in the medium to long-term'

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/urgent-news-about-the-covid-19-vaccine_botqwzI8R7UUVY2.html


That report is here and like he says it may not be there much longer:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/12/Doctors-Warn-COVID-Vaccine.jpg



In an effort to combat Big Pharma Corporate Media and Big Tech censorship, doctors around the world are frantically trying to warn the masses of the devastating effects of the experimental COVID vaccines about to be mass injected into the unsuspecting public assisted by military forces around the world.

What could possibly motivate these doctors, nurses, scientists, and other health professionals to make such an impassioned plea? What do they have to gain by taking the time to educate the public on the hidden dangers of a new class of vaccine about to be inflicted upon the citizens of countries around the world?

They have NOTHING TO GAIN, and much to lose, including their careers, and possibly even their lives.

So why are they doing this? Why are these doctors and professionals being censored so much if the new COVID vaccines are in fact “safe and effective”? What is it that the media and the government are hiding that they don’t want the public to know?

They are doing this because they are doctors and scientists who actually understand the REAL science here, and who know the devastating potential consequences of those who choose to get this very toxic and dangerous vaccine, and they are trying to save as many people as possible from the carnage this vaccine is going to cause, which will include DEATH, brain injuries, life-long autoimmune disease, infertility, and more.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/doctors-around-the-world-issue-dire-warning-do-not-get-the-covid-vaccine/

From our Bitchute Channel:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/H9GyqoPMvfRa/

Professor Dolores Cahill: Why People Will Start DYING A Few Months After The First mRNA Vaccination - 12mins

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Dxjp6nkwhWn8/

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:17am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:11am: I'll be taking the vaccine as soon as possible. Sleeve up, bung it in please.  8-) I doubt I'll ever roll my sleeve up for it. Unless, of course, things get totally out of hand. At the moment though, natural precautions are working just fine for me.

The most sensible post I've seen you make.

Yadda wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 10:32pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 10:28pm: Yadda would be promoting injections with cow turds if his handler commended. Great argument LTYC. How long did it take, for you to think that one up ?         :o         :D :P

And he wonders why he only gets short stints here between banishments.

Dr Eric A Nepute: over 40,000 Americans had adverse reactions

https://www.bitchute.com/video/853aRcr6ZQYH/

On present indications, i will not be accepting any COVID-19 vaccine, when one becomes available locally.

I don't think it is appropriate to allow big pharma to use national pop's as a guinea pig farm.



Trust politicians ?   Ha !

Trust what politicians and national leaders tell us, as being factual ?   Ha !

Pigs might fly !

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 8:22am:

Not only do I think it will help to end the pandemic, but I have selfish motives too ... I intend to fly overseas in the coming few years and without proof of vaccination, I reckon I won't be permitted to fly.  ;)

Well the first shot won't cut it anyway .....

I believe it's 2 shots within weeks of each other

and then if you are going to leave it a couple of years you'll need it again before travelling.

Personally I have doubts about it's efficacy simply because of the short time frame involved in it's testing & production.

I'll stick to the normal yearly flu needle for now.

Family calls for more research after young doctor left paralyzed in wake of taking Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Mexico

An investigation has been launched by public health authorities in Mexico after a young doctor was left paralyzed minutes after taking the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. Her family have asked for more research to be carried out.

Karla Cecilia Perez was left partially paralyzed in her arms and legs mere hours after receiving the Pfizer/BioNTech jab on December 30 and was immediately placed in the intensive care unit of the hospital in Coahuila, in Nuevo Leon state. She also presented difficulties with speaking, according to media reports.

She experienced a number of seizures in addition to skin rash, weakness, and breathing difficulties all within half an hour of receiving the vaccine. She has since been preliminarily diagnosed with encephalomyelitis (inflammation of the brain and spinal cord).

Perez is now in stable condition and is no longer experiencing seizures, but her family has called for additional testing to examine potentially hidden side effects of the Pfizer/BioNtech Covid-19 vaccine, as well as further analysis of her condition to see whether she had any underlying allergies which may have triggered the extreme reaction.

https://www.rt.com/news/511592-doctor-paralyzed-covid-vaccine-mexico/

Need a better source

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 10:28pm:

Yadda would be promoting injections with cow turds if his handler commended.

Best course of action in your case Sambo...... ;D

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 12:37pm:

Need a better source

https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2021/01/02/convulsiones-y-paralisis-por-encefalomielitis-las-reacciones-alergicas-de-una-doctora-de-coahuila-tras-recibir-la-vacuna-contra-covid-19/

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 12:37pm:

Need a better source

Don't be so lazy. If you read the article you'd see it links to the original in the Mexican press.

wombatwoody wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 10:53pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 12:37pm: Need a better source Don't be so lazy. If you read the article you'd see it links to the original in the Mexican press.

Still a poor source regardless.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:47pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 10:53pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 12:37pm: Need a better source Don't be so lazy. If you read the article you'd see it links to the original in the Mexican press. Still a poor source regardless.

Why? Can't Mexicans be proper journalists?

Nah, I know why - because it's not considered MSM. Well, think about the fact that Bill Gates, who has millions if not billions invested in vaccines, donates to CNN, BBC etc and you're onto something...


Meanwhile:

California halts injections of Moderna Covid vaccine batch due to ‘higher-than-usual number of adverse events’
18 Jan, 2021

https://www.rt.com/usa/512825-moderna-california-vaccine-adverse-reactions/

https://twitter.com/ShawnaKhalafiTV/status/1351023938130874370

California State Epidemiologist Statement Recommending Providers Pause Administration of Single Lot of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine

Date: January 17, 2021
Number: NR21-021
Contact: CDPHpress@cdph.ca.gov

Recommendation that Providers Pause Administration of Moderna's COVID-19 Vaccine Lot 041L20A

This week, a higher-than-usual number of adverse events were reported with a specific lot of Moderna vaccine (Moderna Lot 041L20A) administered at one community vaccination clinic. Fewer than ten individuals required medical attention over the span of 24 hours. Follow up investigation of outcomes of these individuals is underway, and more information will be forthcoming.

All appeared to be experiencing a possible severe allergic reaction during the standard observation period – a type of adverse event that the CDC reports some people have experienced when receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine site switched to another lot of Moderna vaccine after closing for a few hours.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR21-021.aspx

55 Americans Have Died Following COVID Vaccination, Norway Deaths Rise To 29

Amid increasing calls for suspension of the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people, the situation in Norway has escalated significantly as the Scandi nation has now registered a total of 29 deaths among people over the age of 75 who’ve had their first COVID-19 vaccination shot.

As Bloomberg reports, this adds six to the number of known fatalities in Norway, and also lowers the age group thought to be affected from 80...

However, it's not just Norway as The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber reports that fifty-five people in the United States have died after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports submitted to a federal system.

Deaths have occurred among people receiving both the Moderna and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to the reports.


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/55-americans-have-died-following-covid-vaccination-norway-deaths-rise-29

wombatwoody wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 9:46pm:

55 Americans Have Died Following COVID Vaccination, Norway Deaths Rise To 29 Amid increasing calls for suspension of the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people, the situation in Norway has escalated significantly as the Scandi nation has now registered a total of 29 deaths among people over the age of 75 who’ve had their first COVID-19 vaccination shot. As Bloomberg reports, this adds six to the number of known fatalities in Norway, and also lowers the age group thought to be affected from 80... However, it's not just Norway as The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber reports that fifty-five people in the United States have died after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports submitted to a federal system. Deaths have occurred among people receiving both the Moderna and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to the reports. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/55-americans-have-died-following-covid-vaccination-norway-deaths-rise-29

The vaccines are being given to people who are elderly, elderly people die of all sorts of causes. These deaths are normal for this type of study, they have nothing to do with the vaccine

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 4:46pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 9:46pm: 55 Americans Have Died Following COVID Vaccination, Norway Deaths Rise To 29 Amid increasing calls for suspension of the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people, the situation in Norway has escalated significantly as the Scandi nation has now registered a total of 29 deaths among people over the age of 75 who’ve had their first COVID-19 vaccination shot. As Bloomberg reports, this adds six to the number of known fatalities in Norway, and also lowers the age group thought to be affected from 80... However, it's not just Norway as The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber reports that fifty-five people in the United States have died after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports submitted to a federal system. Deaths have occurred among people receiving both the Moderna and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to the reports. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/55-americans-have-died-following-covid-vaccination-norway-deaths-rise-29 The vaccines are being given to people who are elderly, elderly people die of all sorts of causes. These deaths are normal for this type of study, they have nothing to do with the vaccine

covid is being caught by people who are elderly , elderly people die from all sorts of causes. These type of deaths are normal for this type of mild respiratory virus, they have nothing to do with covid

Bye leave this to the adultrs aqua.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 5:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 4:46pm: wombatwoody wrote on Jan 19th, 2021 at 9:46pm: 55 Americans Have Died Following COVID Vaccination, Norway Deaths Rise To 29 Amid increasing calls for suspension of the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people, the situation in Norway has escalated significantly as the Scandi nation has now registered a total of 29 deaths among people over the age of 75 who’ve had their first COVID-19 vaccination shot. As Bloomberg reports, this adds six to the number of known fatalities in Norway, and also lowers the age group thought to be affected from 80... However, it's not just Norway as The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber reports that fifty-five people in the United States have died after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports submitted to a federal system. Deaths have occurred among people receiving both the Moderna and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to the reports. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/55-americans-have-died-following-covid-vaccination-norway-deaths-rise-29 The vaccines are being given to people who are elderly, elderly people die of all sorts of causes. These deaths are normal for this type of study, they have nothing to do with the vaccine covid is being caught by people who are elderly , elderly people die from all sorts of causes. These type of deaths are normal for this type of mild respiratory virus, they have nothing to do with covid

SNAP !          ;D


When old people are dying in the community [in 2020], its from COVID-19.     'We must enforce a community wide LOCK-DOWN.'

When old people are dying after having the covid-vaccination, its because they are very old !



Wow !

Such apparent 'messaging' manipulation, by SPIN DOCTORS [government influencers] !

And our political leaders wonder why so many people, in society today, are so skeptical, about what information we are being fed !

Yadda wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:01pm:

When old people are dying, its from COVID-19.     'We must enforce a community wide LOCK-DOWN.' When old people are dying after having the covid-vaccination, its because they are very old ! Wow ! Such apparent 'messaging' manipulation, by SPIN DOCTORS [government influencers] ! And our political leaders wonder why so many people, in society today, are so skeptical, about what information we are being fed !

Folks, its a strong field. But I feel confident in saying Yaddas the biggest idiot on the forum

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:03pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:01pm: When old people are dying, its from COVID-19.     'We must enforce a community wide LOCK-DOWN.' When old people are dying after having the covid-vaccination, its because they are very old ! Wow ! Such apparent 'messaging' manipulation, by SPIN DOCTORS [government influencers] ! And our political leaders wonder why so many people, in society today, are so skeptical, about what information we are being fed ! Folks, its a strong field. But I feel confident in saying Yaddas the biggest idiot on the forum

bojack,

I'm happy to take that hit, from you.

Ducks back, water.

Yadda wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:06pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:03pm: Yadda wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:01pm: When old people are dying, its from COVID-19.     'We must enforce a community wide LOCK-DOWN.' When old people are dying after having the covid-vaccination, its because they are very old ! Wow ! Such apparent 'messaging' manipulation, by SPIN DOCTORS [government influencers] ! And our political leaders wonder why so many people, in society today, are so skeptical, about what information we are being fed ! Folks, its a strong field. But I feel confident in saying Yaddas the biggest idiot on the forum bojack, I'm happy to take that hit, from you. Ducks back, water.

Well seriously it was a dumb comment. Actually try reading the sceince first then come back.


Or will it just be the Moslems do it.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:08pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:06pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:03pm: Yadda wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:01pm: When old people are dying, its from COVID-19.     'We must enforce a community wide LOCK-DOWN.' When old people are dying after having the covid-vaccination, its because they are very old ! Wow ! Such apparent 'messaging' manipulation, by SPIN DOCTORS [government influencers] ! And our political leaders wonder why so many people, in society today, are so skeptical, about what information we are being fed ! Folks, its a strong field. But I feel confident in saying Yaddas the biggest idiot on the forum bojack, I'm happy to take that hit, from you. Ducks back, water. Well seriously it was a dumb comment. Actually try reading the sceince first then come back.

Australian gastroenterologist Professor Thomas Borody, has 'read the science'.

I haven't, but i trust Professor Thomas Borody's opinion.

Just call me an idiot.



Doctor claims Ivermectin triple therapy is 'amazingly effective' in treating COVID-19
08 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jI7Gl3yic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jI7Gl3yic



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Ivermectin treatment is a ‘real killer of coronavirus’: Professor
08 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs


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VESTED INTERESTS.

yadda's posts can be quite informative.

bojacks posts are never so

they are just emotional outbursts.

maybe if we start calling him Dr Bojack, his emotional state will stabilise  ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2021 at 12:35pm:

yadda's posts can be quite informative. bojacks posts are never so they are just emotional outbursts. maybe if we start calling him Dr Bojack, his emotional state will stabilise  ::) ::)

Yep, no doubt about it being called emotional by a horse buggerer is the highlight of my day. Ivermectin has not been shown to work, can we get over it? Its done dusted and over. Yadda harps on about it like its a cure when its not. Put up your controlled studies Yadda or shut up forvever.

@ Reply #44,

Unfortunately for yourself, your dictates [on an open online forum], do not [yet] constrain me.

Thats cool you've produced no actual evidence so the debate is over

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2021 at 2:55pm:

Thats cool you've produced no actual evidence so the debate is over

AND HERE WE WITNESS HOW THE PROGRESSIVE LEFTIST bojack, CHOOSES TO INTERPRET HIS CIRCUMSTANCES [in his own mind] TO FIT HIS WANT,
AND THEN DECLARES TO THOSE AROUND HIM, THAT REALITY MUST BEND, TO CONFORM TO HIS WANT.

THIS IS ON A PAR, WITH A JEDI MIND TRICK.  !!


Yadda applauds bojack.

Not to my want, to scienctific wants. Produce quality evidence ivermectin works

is ivermectin out of patent?

if so there is no money to be made off it and drug companies will not investigate it.

i have presented evidence from several studies showing vitamin D reduces respiratory virus morbidity, but no drug company is going to push that and why would they.
they would be affecting their own profits.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2021 at 5:11pm:

is ivermectin out of patent? if so there is no money to be made off it and drug companies will not investigate it. i have presented evidence from several studies showing vitamin D reduces respiratory virus morbidity, but no drug company is going to push that and why would they. they would be affecting their own profits.

Profits ?

What has BIG PHARMA profits got to do with anything, when we are talking about the COVID pandemic and public health !

Because everyone knows that the COVID virus is a killer, and that it has killed more than 2 million people.

I mean, the highest priority for governments, is 1/ the public good and 2/ optimum community health, and 3/ defeating this COVID virus, isn't it aqua ?

/sarc off

when the vaccines are all rolled out and the heads of pfizer and astra zeneca are enjoying cruising in their yachts with their mistresses,

then we'll get the green light to look for alternative treatments  ;) ;)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2021 at 9:28pm:

when the vaccines are all rolled out and the heads of pfizer and astra zeneca are enjoying cruising in their yachts with their mistresses, then we'll get the green light to look for alternative treatments  ;) ;)

Wow !

You are just soooo cynical aqua !           ;)

Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola

Around the world, reports are pouring in of people dying shortly after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. In many cases, they die suddenly within hours of getting the shot. In others, death occurs within the span of a couple of weeks.

One notable case is baseball legend Hank Aaron, 86, who died January 22, 2021, 17 days after publicly getting vaccinated for COVID-19.1,2 He said at the time that he hoped other Blacks would follow his lead and get their vaccines too.

According to news reports, he died “peacefully in his sleep” and no cause of death had been announced. Aaron was famous for being the home-run king of baseball, and broke Babe Ruth’s record when he hit homerun No. 715; he had hit 755 by the time he retired from the sport.

29 Dead in Norway

In related news, Norway has recorded 29 senior citizen deaths in the wake of their vaccination push.3 Most were over the age of 75. A total of 42,000 Norwegians had by that time received the vaccine.

While health officials initially downplayed any connection to the vaccine, a report in Bloomberg suggests the Norwegian Medicines Agency are now reconsidering. At the time of the deaths, the Pfizer vaccine was the only COVID-19 vaccine available in Norway, so “all deaths are thus linked to this vaccine,” the agency told Bloomberg.4

    “’There are 13 deaths that have been assessed, and we are aware of another 16 deaths that are currently being assessed,’ the agency said. All the reported deaths related to ‘elderly people with serious basic disorders,’ it said.

    ‘Most people have experienced the expected side effects of the vaccine, such as nausea and vomiting, fever, local reactions at the injection site, and worsening of their underlying condition’ …

    The findings have prompted Norway to suggest that COVID-19 vaccines may be too risky for the very old and terminally ill, the most cautious statement yet from a European health authority.

    The Norwegian Institute of Public Health judges that ‘for those with the most severe frailty, even relatively mild vaccine side effects can have serious consequences. For those who have a very short remaining life span anyway, the benefit of the vaccine may be marginal or irrelevant.’”

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, commented that the deaths have to be “put into context with the population they occurred in.”5

In other words, they were old and old people die. It’s hypocrisy at its finest. When seniors die before vaccination, it’s due to COVID-19 and something must be done to prevent it, but when they die after vaccination, they die of natural causes and no preventive action is necessary.

Questionable Coincidences

Interestingly, several areas have reported that deaths are rapidly increasing AFTER vaccination programs are implemented. The news stories don’t actually say it straight out, but if you look at dates given, it raises questions. One such example is what’s happening in Gibraltar at the southern tip of Spain, which has a population of 34,000.

The area rolled out its vaccination program on January 9, 2021, using the Pfizer mRNA vaccine. By January 17, 2021, 5,847 doses had been administered (about 17% of the population), according to a report by MedicalXpress.6

The curious thing about it is that the area’s first recorded death from COVID-19 didn’t occur until mid-November 2020. By January 6, three days before the vaccination program began, the total COVID-19-related death toll reportedly stood at 10.

Then, by January 17, the total death toll had suddenly skyrocketed to 45. In other words, 35 people died in the first eight days of the vaccination program. Most were in their 80s and 90s.

Chief Minister Fabian Picardo said, “This is now the worst loss of life of Gibraltarians in over 100 years. Even in war, we have never lost so many in such a short time.”7 None of the deaths are being blamed on the vaccine, however. Instead, they’re loosely blaming them on the new variant of SARS-CoV-2.

Vaccine Rollout Coincides With Outbreak

Other areas are also reporting “outbreaks” of COVID-19, resulting in increased death tolls, after the rollout of vaccinations. Case in point: In Auburn, New York, a COVID-19 outbreak began December 21, 2020, in a Cayuga County nursing home.8,9 Before this outbreak, no one in the nursing home had died from COVID-19.

The next day, December 22, they started vaccinating residents and staff. The first death was reported December 29, 2020. Between December 22, 2020, and January 9, 2021, 193 residents (80%) received the vaccine, as did 113 staff members.bAs of January 9, 2021, 137 residents had been infected and 24 had died.

Considering we’re also seeing cases in which healthy young and middle-aged individuals die within days of receiving the vaccine, it’s not inconceivable that the vaccine might have something to do with these dramatic rises in deaths among the elderly in various parts of the world. In fact, I’d expect it.

You can rest assured, however, that the public health authorities and media will not report these observations. Anything that conflicts with vaccine safety and effectiveness will be intentionally and universally buried. This is precisely their modus operandi of the past three decades, so it’s really up to each individual to do their own research.

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Massive Amounts of Serious Side Effects Emerging

While the global vaccine campaign is less than a month old in most places, reports of serious side effects have already started pouring in. Many are sharing their personal experiences on social media networks. Disturbingly, many are having their stories censored as misleading or false. Videos, in particular, tend to be taken down.

Aside from sudden death within hours or days,10,11,12,13,14 examples of side effects among survivors of the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines include:

    Persistent malaise15,16 and extreme exhaustion17
    Severe allergic, including anaphylactic reactions18,19,20
    Multisystem inflammatory syndrome21
    Chronic seizures and convulsions22,23
    Paralysis,24 including Bell’s Palsy25

To get a feel for what’s really happening, check out prezi.com, where someone has started collecting stories from various social media posts. It’s a rather shocking compilation that is well worth sharing with family and friends who are still on the fence about getting the vaccine.

Many say they “feel weird” and that they “don’t feel like myself.” Dizziness, racing heart and extreme high blood pressure seem to be a common complaint, as is severe, chronic seemingly “unbreakable” headache that does not respond to medication. Many describe the pain they feel in their body as “being run over by a bus” or “being beaten with a bat.”

Some report swollen and painful lymph nodes, severe muscle pain and gastrointestinal issues. Symptoms mimicking stroke are being reported, even though CT scans show nothing of concern. One such report is from a 19-year-old girl. Several report lethal heart attacks claiming the lives of someone they love.

Are Lethal Effects Being Hidden?

The Defender points out that vaccine trials never use inert placebos. Instead, many use another vaccine. By doing so, they effectively hide side effects. In the case of Moderna, a total of 13 people died in the trial, seven in the vaccine group and eight in the placebo group. One severe adverse event in the placebo group, however, was relabeled as a death, and one death in the vaccine group was relabeled as a severe adverse event.

In the vaccine group, deaths were listed as cardio-respiratory arrest, heart attack, multisystem organ failure, head injury and suicide. None of the deaths were linked to the vaccine.

However, as noted in The Defender, heart attacks can involve autoimmunity and have been seen in post-vaccinations before. Multisystem organ failure is also “consistent with autoimmunity against ubiquitously expressed proteins as a result of vaccination.”

“The suicide cannot be ruled out as not due the vaccine, either,” The Defender writes, noting it could be related to “autoimmunity against oxytocin or serotonin receptors,” which might result in “devastating depression.”

Indeed, prezi.com includes a number of reports of people saying they’ve experienced anxiety and depression following their vaccination. Depression is also a possible outcome of neuroinflammation, as noted by Mikovits.

Do a Risk-Benefit Analysis Before Making Up Your Mind

To avoid becoming a sad statistic, I urge you to review the science very carefully before making up your mind about this experimental gene therapy. Also remember that the lethality of COVID-19 is actually surprisingly low. It’s lower than the flu for those under the age of 60.32

If you’re under the age of 40, your risk of dying from COVID-19 is just 0.01%, meaning you have a 99.99% chance of surviving the infection. And you could improve that to 99.999% if you’re metabolically flexible, insulin sensitive, and vitamin D replete.

So, really, what are we protecting against with a COVID-19 vaccine? These mRNA vaccines aren’t even designed to prevent infection, only reduce the severity of symptoms. Meanwhile, they could potentially make you sicker once you’re exposed to the virus, and/or cause persistent serious side effects such as those reviewed above.

While I won’t tell anyone to do, I would urge you to take the time to review the science and weigh the potential risks and benefits based on your individual situation before you make a decision that you may regret for the rest of your life, which can actually be shortened with this vaccine.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/02/covid-vaccine-death-seniors.aspx

Mercola is a quack

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

Mercola is a quack

But your opinion is that the world is full of ducks.       .....anyone who disagrees with you, IS WRONG.

There are a lot of us out here !

No hes long been regarded by the medical community as a quac k

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 10:39pm:

No hes long been regarded by the medical community as a quac k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola

By referencing Wikipedia you've just made yourself a much bigger laughing stock.

Wombat


Quote:

............. Gibraltar at the southern tip of Spain, which has a population of 34,000. The area rolled out its vaccination program on January 9, 2021, using the Pfizer mRNA vaccine. By January 17, 2021, 5,847 doses had been administered (about 17% of the population), according to a report by MedicalXpress.6 The curious thing about it is that the area’s first recorded death from COVID-19 didn’t occur until mid-November 2020. By January 6, three days before the vaccination program began, the total COVID-19-related death toll reportedly stood at 10. Then, by January 17, the total death toll had suddenly skyrocketed to 45. In other words, 35 people died in the first eight days of the vaccination program. Most were in their 80s and 90s.          ................

the virus killed the first person in mid Nov, by Jan 6th death toll was 10.
This says to me the virus is active in that community and multiplying exponentially.

If it gets into a rest home, many will perish.
Is that what happened?

Quote:

..........  Mr Azopardi added the party will be pressing for answers how Covid-19 spread in ERS facilities.          ..............

https://www.chronicle.gi/fewer-cases-more-vaccines-but-one-death-as-cm-warns-covid-is-here-to-stay/


ERS = Elderly Residential Services (ERS) facilities

To date there have been over 100,000,000 covid vaccines given

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 7^th, 2021 at 2:10am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 10:39pm: No hes long been regarded by the medical community as a quac k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola By referencing Wikipedia you've just made yourself a much bigger laughing stock.

Compared ro the references you chuck out imbecile?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2021 at 8:01pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 2:10am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 10:39pm: No hes long been regarded by the medical community as a quac k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola By referencing Wikipedia you've just made yourself a much bigger laughing stock. Compared ro the references you chuck out imbecile?

Go see for yourself Wikipedia's bias on such topics. Try editing that page to show the facts Mercola presents and see how far you get. Your fate will be like what happened here:

For the uninitiated, on first glance, like a lot of evil things with pretty faces, pleasant manners and diabolical cores, Wikipedia looks pretty neat. It's an open-source encyclopedia, created by anyone in the whole world who wants to help work on it. Kumbaya! Let's all communistically hold hands together and work for free on the free encyclopedia for the whole world. Yaaay...

Only after you dive into the black heart of the beast do you realize that the rules, like Lenora Helmsley's taxes, are only for "the little people", i.e. everyone not in with the Wikipedia Elite Cult. After a while you figure out that all the Mao-like dictums are the products of so-called "benevolent dictator of Wikipedia" Jimbo Wales.

You realize that the sayings are not neato or groovy, but instead cultist aphorisms from super-creepy "Dear Leader" Jimbo. Jimbo likes to say stuff like, "We want Wikipedia to be the sum total of human knowledge", and "We are creating a free encyclopedia for every poor child in Africa".

That, along with his comments along the lines that Wikipedia is an alternate source of information to the corporatized media, is sure to warm the hearts of Leftists, liberals and progressives. Except that...Jimbo is none of the above!

https://robert-lindsay.blogspot.com/2006/04/wikipedia-ziopedia-or-judeopedia.html

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 10^th, 2021 at 4:12am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 8:01pm: wombatwoody wrote on Feb 7th, 2021 at 2:10am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 10:39pm: No hes long been regarded by the medical community as a quac k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola By referencing Wikipedia you've just made yourself a much bigger laughing stock. Compared ro the references you chuck out imbecile? Go see for yourself Wikipedia's bias on such topics. Try editing that page to show the facts Mercola presents and see how far you get. Your fate will be like what happened here: For the uninitiated, on first glance, like a lot of evil things with pretty faces, pleasant manners and diabolical cores, Wikipedia looks pretty neat. It's an open-source encyclopedia, created by anyone in the whole world who wants to help work on it. Kumbaya! Let's all communistically hold hands together and work for free on the free encyclopedia for the whole world. Yaaay... Only after you dive into the black heart of the beast do you realize that the rules, like Lenora Helmsley's taxes, are only for "the little people", i.e. everyone not in with the Wikipedia Elite Cult. After a while you figure out that all the Mao-like dictums are the products of so-called "benevolent dictator of Wikipedia" Jimbo Wales. You realize that the sayings are not neato or groovy, but instead cultist aphorisms from super-creepy "Dear Leader" Jimbo. Jimbo likes to say stuff like, "We want Wikipedia to be the sum total of human knowledge", and "We are creating a free encyclopedia for every poor child in Africa". That, along with his comments along the lines that Wikipedia is an alternate source of information to the corporatized media, is sure to warm the hearts of Leftists, liberals and progressives. Except that...Jimbo is none of the above! https://robert-lindsay.blogspot.com/2006/04/wikipedia-ziopedia-or-judeopedia.html

You can have your own opinions but not your own facts

Spot

Tucker Carlson - They are lying about the safety of the COVID vaccine:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HmYDZGSj6GbI/

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 11^th, 2021 at 4:55am:

Tucker Carlson - They are lying about the safety of the COVID vaccine: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HmYDZGSj6GbI/

I'm not sure which reference is funnier - Tucker Carlson, or BitChute.

;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2021 at 5:47am:

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 11th, 2021 at 4:55am: Tucker Carlson - They are lying about the safety of the COVID vaccine: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HmYDZGSj6GbI/ I'm not sure which reference is funnier - Tucker Carlson, or BitChute. ;D

So let's hear why you disagree with his analysis.

And BitChute, like BrandNewTube, is where vids end up after YouTube brings down the censorship hammer. Got a problem with that?

Tucker Carlson and BitChute    ;D

As opposed to the ABC and the MSM....bwahahahahaha.

Tucker Carlson and BitChute    ;D

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/64963158/stop-stop-im-gonna-pee.jpg

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2021 at 6:43am:

As opposed to the ABC and the MSM....bwahahahahaha.

Exactly.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/790/844/original/c648084718a5752a.jpg

Over 150,000,000 covid vaccines given worldwide

We are going to stop this virus in it's tracks

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 11^th, 2021 at 9:46pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 11th, 2021 at 6:43am: As opposed to the ABC and the MSM....bwahahahahaha. Exactly. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/790/844/original/c648084718a5752a.jpg

I can only find two books and it fills me with no confidence. Polish Girl In Pursuit of the English Dream: INTIMATE & INSPIRING TRUE STORY ON THE JOURNEY TO ENLIGHTENMENT and Ms Manwhore (erotic literature)

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 12^th, 2021 at 8:45am:

wombatwoody wrote on Feb 11th, 2021 at 9:46pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 11th, 2021 at 6:43am: As opposed to the ABC and the MSM....bwahahahahaha. Exactly. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/790/844/original/c648084718a5752a.jpg I can only find two books and it fills me with no confidence. Polish Girl In Pursuit of the English Dream: INTIMATE & INSPIRING TRUE STORY ON THE JOURNEY TO ENLIGHTENMENT and Ms Manwhore (erotic literature)

So friggin what? She could be the author of Suzi Slag and the Kama Sutra and what would it matter? The quote is the important thing.

Unbelievable!

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12^th, 2021 at 3:00am:

Over 150,000,000 covid vaccines given worldwide We are going to stop this virus in it's tracks

probably not sprint.

we still have HIV 40 years later and you have to be foolish enough to have unprotected sex to catch that.
covid you catch it by breathing.

mother nature is a bit smart for the arrogant smarty pants intellectual elites like bojack.

heres a fact for you

mutating bacteria resistant to antibiotics will kill way way way more people in the next 2 decades then covid.

people have lost touch with nature

they refuse to accept their own mortality.

when a virus comes along that only kills the very frail and weak , thats mother nature doing exactly what mother nature should be doing.

the frail and weak bushes die in the regular forrest fire

the frail and weak elk are taken down by the wolf, ensuring the survival of that species.

the frail and weak businesses need to be allowed to perish, so that an economy functions properly.

nature wont have it any other way.

when you see a population of people, allowing themselves to become fat, eat sugar and junk, do no physical exercise, get no vitamin d from the sun and then , lock themselves in their rooms and cower under the sheets, you know that that population of people is not in sync with nature.

we are starting to understand that we have to be in sync with nature with regards to the soil, the forrest, the water, the rivers, the climate.

but we put ourselves (arrogantly) outside of the realm of nature and consider ourselves  so central to the univers that we are willing to demolish the very very fragile systems we have built , rather then face out destiny.

we have nursing homes full of suffering people who, if they were of another species, we would consider it a prosecutable offense not to terminate their suffering, but because we see ourselves as a species above nature, we are prepared to go to any lengths, let our systems get completely out of balance, rather then use common sense.

the economies of the west, i believe , are shot.

a massive depression is coming and people may not have food, power, the net, technology, security.

we could turn into venezuala or zimbabwee very very easily.

and we will deserve to

because we were willfully blind to the reality of the situation and we refused to move forward with courage in a spirit of adventure.


so , no, covid is not going away but in a decade, covid will be the absolute least of our problems

we still have HIV 40 years later and you have to be foolish enough to have unprotected sex to catch that.


To be honest we've done extremely well with that too. Presuming the person knows they are HIV and follwoing the drug regimen its possible to have unprotected sex without transmission.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13^th, 2021 at 5:25am:

when a virus comes along that only kills the very frail and weak , thats mother nature doing exactly what mother nature should be doing. the frail and weak bushes die in the regular forrest fire the frail and weak elk are taken down by the wolf, ensuring the survival of that species. the frail and weak businesses need to be allowed to perish, so that an economy functions properly. nature wont have it any other way. [ when you see a population of people, allowing themselves to  we have nursing homes full of suffering people who, if they were of another species, we would consider it a prosecutable offense not to terminate their suffering, but because we see ourselves as a species above nature, we are prepared to go to any lengths, let our systems get completely out of balance, rather then use common sense. t

Culling old people and the weak and disabled. Not the first time its been suggested,. We could have vans driving around picking them up with gas piped inside putting them to sleep.