Our pup is a male, Maltese X Poodle X Bichon & is now 4 months old. At 6 months our vet wants to desex him and insists that I would be immoral if I didnt. Im not so sure about that.

Can anyone give me a good reason why I should desex my dog. I think its wrong.

Its frankly immoral if you dont

There are schools of thought that state a dog is more stable and friendly when desexed and lest prone to bite or display agro tendencies.      There is also the mating with other dogs that you may or may not want to happen.   In my Shire, the yearly registration for an undesexed dog is in the thousands - unless you are a registered breeder - whilst for desexed dogs it is under a hundred.      The cost of desexing a dog can be quite high.

There are any number of pros and cons that really only you can balance up so, unless your Shire has bylaws making it compulsory unless other conditions are satisfied, it's up to you.  Personally, all our dogs have been desexed as soon as they were able to as we were not interested in breeding him/her and the advice we got at the time was it would help the dog.

Interestingly, I had a vasectomy when I was 32 (relatively young) as we had enough children of our own, and I didn't feel the need to populate with another female!

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

Its frankly immoral if you dont

Can you explain to me why. Because it seems to me that its immoral if I do. If I cut your testies off when you were 13, you'd think I was immoral. See what Im saying?

Vic wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 11:44am:

There are schools of thought that state a dog is more stable and friendly when desexed and lest prone to bite or display agro tendencies.      There is also the mating with other dogs that you may or may not want to happen.   In my Shire, the yearly registration for an undesexed dog is in the thousands - unless you are a registered breeder - whilst for desexed dogs it is under a hundred.      The cost of desexing a dog can be quite high. There are any number of pros and cons that really only you can balance up so, unless your Shire has bylaws making it compulsory unless other conditions are satisfied, it's up to you.  Personally, all our dogs have been desexed as soon as they were able to as we were not interested in breeding him/her and the advice we got at the time was it would help the dog. Interestingly, I had a vasectomy when I was 32 (relatively young) as we had enough children of our own, and I didn't feel the need to populate with another female!

Please correct me if Im wrong but in the case of dogs when they're desexed they cant have sex, so its not quite the same as your vasectomy. Have I got that right?

Jest wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 12:36pm:

Vic wrote on Nov 17th, 2020 at 11:44am: There are schools of thought that state a dog is more stable and friendly when desexed and lest prone to bite or display agro tendencies.      There is also the mating with other dogs that you may or may not want to happen.   In my Shire, the yearly registration for an undesexed dog is in the thousands - unless you are a registered breeder - whilst for desexed dogs it is under a hundred.      The cost of desexing a dog can be quite high. There are any number of pros and cons that really only you can balance up so, unless your Shire has bylaws making it compulsory unless other conditions are satisfied, it's up to you.  Personally, all our dogs have been desexed as soon as they were able to as we were not interested in breeding him/her and the advice we got at the time was it would help the dog. Interestingly, I had a vasectomy when I was 32 (relatively young) as we had enough children of our own, and I didn't feel the need to populate with another female! Please correct me if Im wrong but in the case of dogs when they're desexed they cant have sex, so its not quite the same as your vasectomy. Have I got that right?

Not sure, but if that is true then I must be a dog :)

;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 4:03pm:

;D ;D ;D

I second that  ;D ;D ;D. Good one Vic

Jest wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 12:36pm:

Vic wrote on Nov 17th, 2020 at 11:44am: There are schools of thought that state a dog is more stable and friendly when desexed and lest prone to bite or display agro tendencies.      There is also the mating with other dogs that you may or may not want to happen.   In my Shire, the yearly registration for an undesexed dog is in the thousands - unless you are a registered breeder - whilst for desexed dogs it is under a hundred.      The cost of desexing a dog can be quite high. There are any number of pros and cons that really only you can balance up so, unless your Shire has bylaws making it compulsory unless other conditions are satisfied, it's up to you.  Personally, all our dogs have been desexed as soon as they were able to as we were not interested in breeding him/her and the advice we got at the time was it would help the dog. Interestingly, I had a vasectomy when I was 32 (relatively young) as we had enough children of our own, and I didn't feel the need to populate with another female! Please correct me if Im wrong but in the case of dogs when they're desexed they cant have sex, so its not quite the same as your vasectomy. Have I got that right?

Once the production of hormones(testosterone) has ceased & the levels drop in it's system the dog will no longer have the inclination or capability.

And they are less aggressive to people & other dogs.

This can take a month or so - depending on how old the dog is before you have it done.

The other bonus is monetary ..... it's generally much cheaper to register a desexed dog.

Seems it's very much a male thing that men owners don't like the idea of taking out Fidos balls.

They tuck up their own when they think about it. ;D

If you have no plans to be a registered breeder..

It's the right thing to do.

Unless the dog has a prostate problem or cancer, or is totally out of control and tends to roam looking for bitches, there is no reason to castrate it. Your vet sounds like an idiot.....similar to Buttcrack.

Gnads wrote on Dec 10^th, 2020 at 8:52am:

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 8:49am: Unless the dog has a prostate problem or cancer, or is totally out of control and tends to roam looking for bitches, there is no reason to castrate it. Your vet sounds like an idiot.....similar to Buttcrack. If you own a female dog then they should be speyed. Then there would be no roaming whole dogs looking for bitches.  :P

If you're not a breeder yes I agree. But we were talking about Male dogs (ya know the kind with balls)....... ;)

This talk of pet dogs roaming ... most have them inside, or in an enclosed safe back yard. Especially if one pays big $$$$ for a specific breed.
In that case, if a specific breed/mix has good social family encounters and life, there is no reason for aggression.

We never desexed our blue/red healer. He always stayed close to home on our property.
Was the best friendliest loving social dog that everyone loved.
He did however, develop a cancer type tumour in his scrotum and although I kept him well with lots of alternate products, after a few months, decided it was cheaper to have him operated on to remove his balls, as the products I used were getting on the expensive side.
The vet was at me for months about the operation, saying the tumour would spread and attach to the stomach etc.
When our dog had the op, the vet was amazed how clean and contained the tumour was, and it had shrunk instead of grow and spread.
One of the products I gave the dog was shark cartilage powder.
As sharks are resistant to cancer apparently.
Anyway, once our dog had his balls removed, his fur became thicker and he seemed more youthful.
Maybe there’s something to that for men too? ;D ;D (just kidding)

Gnads wrote on Dec 10^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 8:58am: Gnads wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 8:52am: Fuzzball wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 8:49am: Unless the dog has a prostate problem or cancer, or is totally out of control and tends to roam looking for bitches, there is no reason to castrate it. Your vet sounds like an idiot.....similar to Buttcrack. If you own a female dog then they should be speyed. Then there would be no roaming whole dogs looking for bitches.  :P If you're not a breeder yes I agree. But we were talking about Male dogs (ya know the kind with balls)....... ;) You obviously didn't read my previous post If you're not a registered breeder then you should have your dogs de-sexed .... male (with balls) or females (without balls)  ::) nutted or speyed either way. It's the responsible & sensible thing to do. Edit: and it's cheaper to register them.

A registered breeder with de-sexed dogs is going to go broke. I’m missing something here.
One thing I do know is it’s medically very risky de-sexing young female puppies given this frequently results in bone/joint deformation and other medical problems. Why the RSPCA insists on this I can understand but they never warn potential owners of the probable serious medical complications.

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 10^th, 2020 at 4:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 2:10pm: Fuzzball wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 8:58am: Gnads wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 8:52am: Fuzzball wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 8:49am: Unless the dog has a prostate problem or cancer, or is totally out of control and tends to roam looking for bitches, there is no reason to castrate it. Your vet sounds like an idiot.....similar to Buttcrack. If you own a female dog then they should be speyed. Then there would be no roaming whole dogs looking for bitches.  :P If you're not a breeder yes I agree. But we were talking about Male dogs (ya know the kind with balls)....... ;) You obviously didn't read my previous post If you're not a registered breeder then you should have your dogs de-sexed .... male (with balls) or females (without balls)  ::) nutted or speyed either way. It's the responsible & sensible thing to do. Edit: and it's cheaper to register them. A registered breeder with de-sexed dogs is going to go broke. I’m missing something here. One thing I do know is it’s medically very risky de-sexing young female puppies given this frequently results in bone/joint deformation and other medical problems. Why the RSPCA insists on this I can understand but they never warn potential owners of the probable serious medical complications.

You certainly are - re-read my post.

I said if you're "NOT' a registered breeder.

What the pharque is wrong with you?

.... I said it twice .... "if you're not a registered breeder"

desex your dogs.

You don't desex female puppies when too young .... you wait til there nearly going to go through their first heat.

The males are usually when their stones start to drop.

With the amount of inherited genetic problems of pedigreed dogs I doubt speying causes bone/joint deformation.

Anyway the vet will recommend supplements you can give them to look after bone density & osteoporosis .......

just as doctors do for women who have hysterectomies or ovary removal.

Never. Take responsibility and make sure they they are not open to breeding that you don't want. Anything else is lazy. You would change their character and being to save you having to think about them as living individual creatures and more as furniture.

Yesm you should desex your dog—it will start “marking” your walls soon otherwise.

OMG - Monk is back.      :o

Looks like he's deleted posts from this thread too.

I know who's stuffing this forum.

Snip away. I believe they live longer when desexed.