Google says this:


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What is the difference between left wing and right wing? Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

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What is a leftist in America? The American Left consists of individuals and groups that have sought egalitarian changes in the economic, political and cultural institutions of the United States.

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What are left wing views? Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy. It typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.

So - its official (if google says so) - the "right" is nationalist

Spot

The difference, as far as I can tell, relates to foreign investment. National Socialism rests on the idea that a nation's wealth is determined by a country's national resources and her people's endeavour. Capitalism rests on the idea of being able to exploit another  country's resources and labour at a cheaper rate than your own. Thanks to the Nazis we won't be seeing National Socialism anytime soon. Instead, continue to see western economies run by multi-nationals and Jewish banking cartels.

In America, the so-called "left" (Democrats) seem to be mostly "movie stars", i.e. people who work pretending to be other people. The so-called "Right" (Republicans)seem to be the religious lot.  If I lived in America I probably wouldn't bother to vote, since I am neither a "celeb" nor a Church goer.  ;)

I think both left and right lost their {[idealism} read passion....a long time ago..

now its thuggery that brings their points across......

violence seems to be the answer to everything...

take note guys   the AMERIKAN thing is starting to rub off on aussies.....now they are marching [with the idea of starting trouble] on the streets   taking on the police.........like Portland....


we are turning into a band of whingers....people who think a curfew will make them go out of their minds......such rubbish....and these thugs play on that...and the whingers suck it up..


far left and far right today means extreme......

Originally they just opposed in equal Political identity.
But things have changed.

Religion actually is more cohesive with Politics, unlike Music and Entertainment.
Sadly for the Democrats - they have picked up a nasty reliance on the Media (which not only, is more culturally cohesive with regions of Asia, Africa and Europe - than North America itself) and the Australian existence of Egalitarianism.
For a Political Party to aim for the 'middle-ground' of Egalitarianism - it looses the empowerment of either the Rich or Poor classes, who in America, stand divided willingly.

The Democrats need to jilt the Celebrity, Media, BLM (only) side and return back to their Political roots.
The Republicans did and that's why they are in Power.

Black Men of North America have to realise that when it comes to Politics, their Women are the Alpha, they are the Beta and that the Men should just stick to Music and Entertainment more than Politics.
Why be a half-back in League that over-achieves and tries to be a ruck-man in AFL?
The 'novelty' of being the first 'Black Man' for Obama only got so far - mostly holding his wife's hand for Woman's Weekly mags and smiling for the Camera.
In comes Trump to show what a real 'Woman's Man' he is with gorgeous Melania and Ivanka in the past. Beautiful women in his life, as well as the other spectrum of the 3 Gorgons: Hillary, Pelosi and Harris to hound him.

Imagine a Man who becomes President and surrounds himself with the likes of Pelosi and Harris - rather than beautiful women... who would call him 'Gay' on the flip side.

It's a no-win situation of trying to please 'everyone'.
Every President is different, each one brings something else to the table. No one President can represent 'all' of America at one time.

I don't think the Democrats are ready for a Political win, until they jilt the bias Media off its back.

Black Women supported Trump's Election to President.
Black Women would also surround and support a tall Blonde White Aryan/Angel Man if he ran for President too.

Ah - so, as usual, that makes most of us somewhere in the middle.  Thanks for the definitions - though I think they are a bit extreme and loose in their foundations, since most people fit into a pattern somewhere between the two extremes.  The left, obviously, does not deal exclusively with equalities etc, but sometimes goes off the rails - the right is not totally autocratic though it sometimes goes off the rails. 

At the end of the day for the Common Voting Public - they are BOTH determined to have their way at any cost as long as the cost is on someone else - usually the Common Voting Public... thus making of both despotisms.

Oh - 'despotism' is no reference to spot.... de kind of spotism I mention is tyranny and nothing to do with the monniker or any belief system of spot.

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 7:11am:

The difference, as far as I can tell, relates to foreign investment. National Socialism rests on the idea that a nation's wealth is determined by a country's national resources and her people's endeavour. Capitalism rests on the idea of being able to exploit another  country's resources and labour at a cheaper rate than your own. Thanks to the Nazis we won't be seeing National Socialism anytime soon. Instead, continue to see western economies run by multi-nationals and Jewish banking cartels.

Careful - rather than understanding the underlying principles - some here will call you an out-and-out Fascist for even mentioning National Socialism.  It's kind of another trigger word for the relatively uneducated....  oops - there's another trigger...

Nationalism is a form of Patriotism. It's where a Government becomes more 'isolated' from the World and focuses mostly on Domestic empowerment - more than becoming a power 'internationally' WITH other nations.
The CCP defeated their Nationals all the way to Taiwan.
That's why the CCP is a global player internationally.

Jasin wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 8:26am:

Nationalism is a form of Patriotism. It's where a Government becomes more 'isolated' from the World and focuses mostly on Domestic empowerment - more than becoming a power 'internationally' WITH other nations. The CCP defeated their Nationals all the way to Taiwan. That's why the CCP is a global player internationally.

So the CCP are National socialists? Who'd 've thunk that?  Nationalists is a facile title for Taiwanese government - since both they and the CCP function on pretty much the same level - same as North and South Korea pretty much.

The only question is which has more money for trade - not whether one is better than the other.

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Ah - so, as usual, that makes most of us somewhere in the middle.  Thanks for the definitions - though I think they are a bit extreme and loose in their foundations, since most people fit into a pattern somewhere between the two extremes.  The left, obviously, does not deal exclusively with equalities etc, but sometimes goes off the rails - the right is not totally autocratic though it sometimes goes off the rails.  At the end of the day for the Common Voting Public - they are BOTH determined to have their way at any cost as long as the cost is on someone else - usually the Common Voting Public... thus making of both despotisms. Oh - 'despotism' is no reference to spot.... de kind of spotism I mention is tyranny and nothing to do with the monniker or any belief system of spot.

Its good to know you arent in favour of despotting

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 7:02am:

Google says this: Quote: What is the difference between left wing and right wing? Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism". [quote]What is a leftist in America? The American Left consists of individuals and groups that have sought egalitarian changes in the economic, political and cultural institutions of the United States.

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What are left wing views? Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy. It typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.

So - its official (if google says so) - the "right" is nationalist

Spot[/quote]

Funny how things change.

Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist"

Nationalism in relation to other forms of Government rule like International priority.
Is like AFL and it's 'domestic' Club Level code that gets the most crowds and the NRL (which should be International Rugby League) with it's international Kangaroo Tours with many viewers.

Australia could do with a good sense of Nationalism that brings  us altogether as our own unique culture. Federalism gives us a strong International standing. Each Region needs its own distinctive version of Politics, not every nation can be like the other in a smothering blanket over innovation from diversity.
There is no 'one' right answer. There can be Eight Answers.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 8:46am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:15am: Ah - so, as usual, that makes most of us somewhere in the middle.  Thanks for the definitions - though I think they are a bit extreme and loose in their foundations, since most people fit into a pattern somewhere between the two extremes.  The left, obviously, does not deal exclusively with equalities etc, but sometimes goes off the rails - the right is not totally autocratic though it sometimes goes off the rails.  At the end of the day for the Common Voting Public - they are BOTH determined to have their way at any cost as long as the cost is on someone else - usually the Common Voting Public... thus making of both despotisms. Oh - 'despotism' is no reference to spot.... de kind of spotism I mention is tyranny and nothing to do with the monniker or any belief system of spot. Its good to know you arent in favour of despotting Spot

An OzPol never changes its spots...

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 8:25pm:

Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist"

Perhaps.

Spot

The young and not so young really need something to object to, like way back in the 60s and the Vietnam War. Bring back conscription and that would get them going.  ;D

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 5:18am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:25pm: Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist" Perhaps. Spot

What else would it be?

Lock the Population down.
Watch them die of boredom.
...and itch for a War to start.

A willing population for War.  ;)

Bobby is already playing Hitler clips.
He's itching for a War, locked inside his unit.

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 7:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 5:18am: Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:25pm: Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist" Perhaps. Spot What else would it be?

Authoritarian

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 7:37am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 5:18am: Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:25pm: Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist" Perhaps. Spot What else would it be? Authoritarian Spot

Ahh, but the trick with Australia (Southern Hemisphere) is that it needs a Republic with NO head of State(s). Southern Politics is weak at the individual/leader and strong in the Party/Public Collective.

Neferti wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 7:20am:

The young and not so young really need something to object to, like way back in the 60s and the Vietnam War. Bring back conscription and that would get them going.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgecgpCfAYo

Neferti wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 7:35am:

In America, the so-called "left" (Democrats) seem to be mostly "movie stars", i.e. people who work pretending to be other people. The so-called "Right" (Republicans)seem to be the religious lot.  If I lived in America I probably wouldn't bother to vote, since I am neither a "celeb" nor a Church goer.  ;)

There is a game show host and a movie star... both of whom were/ are POTUS. How many democratic celebs have been POTUS?

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 3:15pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 7:35am: In America, the so-called "left" (Democrats) seem to be mostly "movie stars", i.e. people who work pretending to be other people. The so-called "Right" (Republicans)seem to be the religious lot.  If I lived in America I probably wouldn't bother to vote, since I am neither a "celeb" nor a Church goer.  ;) There is a game show host and a movie star... both of whom were/ are POTUS. How many democratic celebs have been POTUS? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

I was actually talking about those who follow/vote for Democrats/Republicans.

However, some of the POTUS' became "celebs" after being (or while) in Office.  ;) Some even wrote books.  ;D

Neferti wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 4:12pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 3:15pm: Neferti wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 7:35am: In America, the so-called "left" (Democrats) seem to be mostly "movie stars", i.e. people who work pretending to be other people. The so-called "Right" (Republicans)seem to be the religious lot.  If I lived in America I probably wouldn't bother to vote, since I am neither a "celeb" nor a Church goer.  ;) There is a game show host and a movie star... both of whom were/ are POTUS. How many democratic celebs have been POTUS? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o I was actually talking about those who follow/vote for Democrats/Republicans. However, some of the POTUS' became "celebs" after being (or while) in Office.  ;) Some even wrote books.  ;D

It has almost become a rite of passage...
Even nobodies become a somebody when they write a book about a POTUS.  :P :P :P

Wow. millions and millions of movie stars. The religious "extemists" do seem to number in the millions

Spot

Muslim extremists?
Hammer

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 7:37am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 5:18am: Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:25pm: Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist" Perhaps. Spot What else would it be? Authoritarian Spot

I meant what else would it be other than nationalist to want an Australian Head of State. Lefty progressives who are rejecting the Monarchy and wanting an Australian Head of State are thinking in terms of National Pride

Righties are not necessarily rejecting the Monarchy and are in no hurry to change our Head of State.

Lefty progressives are far more nationalist than the righties on this issue

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 8:13am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 8:15am: Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 7:37am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 5:18am: Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:25pm: Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist" Perhaps. Spot What else would it be? Authoritarian Spot I meant what else would it be other than nationalist to want an Australian Head of State. Lefty progressives who are rejecting the Monarchy and wanting an Australian Head of State are thinking in terms of National Pride Righties are not necessarily rejecting the Monarchy and are in no hurry to change our Head of State. Lefty progressives are far more nationalist than the righties on this issue

what is a lefty progressive"? you mean a "righty lefty"?

most of the ppl rejecting the monarchy are a new catagory called republicans.

The vote was against john howard being head of state with no oversigjht so looks like majority of ppl dont want more authoritarianism

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 8:21am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 8:13am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 8:15am: Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 7:37am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 5:18am: Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:25pm: Wanting to replace the Governor General with an Australian head of state is "Nationalist" Perhaps. Spot What else would it be? Authoritarian Spot I meant what else would it be other than nationalist to want an Australian Head of State. Lefty progressives who are rejecting the Monarchy and wanting an Australian Head of State are thinking in terms of National Pride Righties are not necessarily rejecting the Monarchy and are in no hurry to change our Head of State. Lefty progressives are far more nationalist than the righties on this issue what is a lefty progressive"? you mean a "righty lefty"? most of the ppl rejecting the monarchy are a new catagory called republicans. The vote was against john howard being head of state with no oversigjht so looks like majority of ppl dont want more authoritarianism Spot

We need more government control to reduce authoritarianism!  Oddly, that's how the 'reasoning' works... the demand is out there for governments to let go - by legislation....  :-?

Controlling authoritarianism requires authority......