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Title: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2020 at 11:45am
A five-year-old boy was allegedly gang-raped on a beach by other children from a remote Indigenous community on Cape York this month.
Queensland police revealed that four boys — all younger than 13 — were being “dealt with under provisions of the Youth Justice Act” over the alleged rape. The brutal attack is alleged to have taken place on the beach at Napranum, on the northwest coast of Cape York, on July 1. [ftp][/ftp] Sources said the four alleged offenders were removed from the 800-strong community after the allegations emerged, amid fears over threatened retribution. The charges will renew debate over the level of sexual activity and abuse of children within remote Indigenous communities across Australia, an issue that sparked the Howard government’s controversial intervention in the Northern Territory in 2007. A study, headed by then Griffith University professor Stephen Smallbone, into sexual abuse in several Indigenous communities in north Queensland was so shocking it was kept secret for more than three years. The Smallbone report, released in 2016, found that sexual offences in Aurukun — just south of Napranum and with many familial and traditional links — were reported at a rate 6.6 times higher than the norm in the state between 2001 and 2012. The mean age of victims was 14. The study also reported that the incidence of sexually transmitted disease — mainly syphilis — was a staggering 56 times the state average, including the infection of 29 children younger than 10. Several sources said the details of this month’s alleged rape of the young boy were extremely distressing. The boy was flown to Cairns for medical treatment after the alleged attack. It also emerged that the alleged offenders might not face court and could be dealt with by a youth-justice diversionary program. The charges revive memories of the 2006 gang rape of a 10-year-old girl in Aurukun, and the ensuing outrage over the failure of sentencing judge Sarah Bradley to jail any of the nine assailants — aged between 13 and 25. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/kids-in-alleged-rape-of-indigenous-boy-5-on-cape-york/news-story/b56a35d693ad2c70e5e67f3cca9c9a41 Stop fantasising about the past, Abirigines and wanna-be Aborigines, fix the dysfunctional tribes of the present. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 17th, 2020 at 2:34pm
What retribution by whom, Soren.
Far from being an accepted practice this was looked on in horror by the community. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2020 at 4:55pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
Relatively responsible tribal members or possibly parents... we are all aware that these communities are divided over this kind of reprehensible behaviour by some, and the decent People oppose it. Maybe they'd spear the little pri cks.... The facts and figures still speak for themselves - all those decent People need to get together on this and stamp it out. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 17th, 2020 at 5:10pm
Given that it arose out of police and societal indifference at best and positively discriminated against to the point killing them - by the authorities.
Of course all lives matter- indigenous, Anglo-Celtic, Asian, whatever. And if necessary the full force of the law should be visited on the perpetrators of the crime (if it is proved to have been committed). The environment in which they live is not exactly conducive to making them healthy in mind and body. Bit hard to demonstrate against three children - you ever tried it ? |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Valkie on Jul 17th, 2020 at 6:45pm
The abbos want to rule themselves.
They say we are taking their rights away. Now they say it's because we don't intervene that this is happening,. It seems to me it's a bet each way. Stop them committing crime.......is racism. Don't stop them......It's racism Take the kids out of the danger area......It's stolen children Leave the kids there .....It's racial abuse. Here is a solution. Make them get off their lazy arses and do something for themselves for a change. Stop them being parasites and treat them as if they were normal people, not a protected species. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2020 at 6:52pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
VERY wide spread for something 'unatthaptable', you risible loon. :-/ :'( :o They have been doing this sort of thing for 40, 60, 80, 400 thousands years. This is what they have been doing for ever. Now it just gets reported (occasionally). Ask Bruce Pascoe, he knows all about it. He knows everything about Aboriginal societies before 1788. The 'looking on in horror' goes on, year in, year out. Looking on is ALL that the 'community' is doing year in, year out, because you haven't been giving them enough money, Toyotas and green slabs. It's ALL your fault, white bastard Bwian. YOU make them do nothing BUT look on and on, and on and on in horror as they pack rape each other. In your defence, even if you give them everything, the 'looking on' will be the only bloody thing they will ever do. It's the culture, innit. Spirit of the land. Caring for the lands and dreamstimes and poo, bro.i |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 17th, 2020 at 9:15pm ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2020 at 9:19pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 9:15pm:
Yawning at child rape - that's you, Bwian. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 17th, 2020 at 10:55pm Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 9:19pm:
Nope. I am yawning at your incessant Racism, Soren. It is just so boring and predictable. How about you tell us how your going to protest against three children, hey? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 17th, 2020 at 11:10pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 10:55pm:
What??? Po faced old idiotic, incoherent yoni. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2020 at 2:32am Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 11:10pm:
Send in the Army etc to control outrages and abuse? Offer immediate medical treatment for any and all illnesses, including STIs? Organise a real system for dealing with abusers? Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Don't Intervene and you are neglecting remote communities and allowing violence and abuse of all kinds to run amok and treating the Indigenous as second class with no rights to fair and equitable treatment, medical and legal and all kinds ... Intervene and you are a Fascist dominating our beautiful, peaceful and caring Brothers and Sistuhs who just 'want to do things their own way' without Captain Cook intervening so they can get on with their syphilis laden lifestyle abusing kids, dying early from substance abuse and reaping a massively higher rate of violence of all kinds along with early death. Which will it be, Brian? Let us hear it now...... just once... for real.... |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 18th, 2020 at 2:41am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 5:10pm:
So Whartey is totally responsible for several out of control Abo kids raping a child and this only happens because of positive discrimination by authorities (who would intervene to prevent such an act if given forewarning) that kills them? You're right, Bro.... but I think an explanation is in order outside the bottle you're currently in... 'Demonstrate against three children' - do you even begin to understand the PRINCIPLE involved of rape and abuse and neglect as a part of this lifestyle, as proven by the facts and figures? So, according to the Life of Brian, we should never act on principle as proven by more than one specific incident and seek a positive solution, but must instead rely on the anecdotal 'positive' of someone feeling upset by any intervention in a crime? |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Valkie on Jul 18th, 2020 at 7:30am
I propose a new emoji for bwyannnmnnn.
A coronavirus yawning emoji It represents him perfectly. It represents his dogged attempts to shut down any discussion he deems other that what he believes. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18th, 2020 at 12:19pm ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Gnads on Jul 18th, 2020 at 12:20pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 5:10pm:
Didn't stop the UK system charging & jailing(detention centre) the 2 10 yr olds that murdered 2 yr old James Bugler now did it? That's OK they were white ey? ::) Besides that this incident on Cape York wasn't at any isolated/remote community...... Napranum is in the town of Weipas confines. Weipa has an approx population of 4,500 All services, large airport & schools. Have another go you excuse making sjw softcock. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2020 at 12:40pm
It was not indigenous Australians who destroyed thousands of Aboriginal jobs in country areas by suddenly raising the wages of cattle station labour in 1965; it was the Commonwealth Conciliation and Arbitration Commission. Nor was it indigenous Australians who decided, just as the commission’s judgment was having its devastating effects, to massively subsidise remote Aboriginal settlements, condemning generation after generation to inadequate housing, an education scarcely worth having and a future shorn of jobs and hope; it was the Whitlam and Fraser governments. And it was not indigenous Australians who removed the prohibitions on the consumption of alcohol by, and the sale of alcohol to, Aboriginal people that had been in force throughout Australia since 1929.
It was state and territory governments that, in keeping with the 1960s zeitgeist of self-determination, repealed those controls and decriminalised public drunkenness, plunging fraying Aboriginal communities into a spiral of alcohol-fuelled violence and helping to ensure that indigenous offenders are nearly three times more likely than non-indigenous offenders to be intoxicated when they commit their crimes. The result, as one Aboriginal community after the other succumbed to the epidemic of substance abuse, was that indigenous incarceration rates, which had been falling since World War I, began to soar. Far from slowing that rise, the explosive growth in welfare outlays that followed the onset of the crisis perpetuated the pathologies by allowing dysfunctional communities to survive. And instead of frankly confronting the root causes, successive governments relied on grandiose statements of good intentions and on torrents of cash in an increasingly futile attempt to paper over the cracks. ... It is clear that much-touted nostrums, such as diverting juvenile offenders from the court system, have been tried and largely found to fail, with most studies concluding that they do not decrease the risk of reconviction, the time to reconviction, the seriousness of further offending or the number of reconvictions. And it is equally clear that while those approaches are not a viable solution, imprisonment does reduce the extent and incidence of serious offending, as well as shielding, at least for a time, the victims of violence from their tormentors. That hardly implies we should simply accept the dreadful costs mass incarceration imposes on indigenous Australians and on the moral fabric of the nation. What it does mean, however, is that we face an alternative. We can salve our conscience by retaining the unstated premise that has led to the current calamity: that indigenous Australians are essentially a separate race, who should be funded to live at enormous expense in places where there are no viable jobs, where supplying basic services is prohibitively costly and where alcohol and drugs are the only antidote to squalor, boredom and despair. If that is our choice, today’s pathologies, and the mass incarceration that is their symptom, will persist for decades to come. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/if-separatism-is-such-misery-do-we-try-integration/news-story/0a43601760073ef54606b844aa6156b6 |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18th, 2020 at 4:27pm ::) ::) ::) Paternalism writ large. I wonder how you'd react to the Government making all decisions for you, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Gnads on Jul 18th, 2020 at 6:07pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2020 at 4:27pm:
You continue to be a complete ass. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 18th, 2020 at 7:00pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2020 at 4:27pm:
You misunderstand it completely, Bwian, as you always misunderstand everything. The rot set in when the government started treating them as a some sort of endangered species rather than who they actually are. Read it slowly and try to comprehend it. (I am crediting you with an ability I don't think you have but fair go is what we all like around here. So DO try) See how you go. (the author is the editor and publisher of The New Criterion, the successor/revival of the magazine once edited by T.S Eliot, a name that obviously wouldn't mean anything to you) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18th, 2020 at 11:25pm
You really are a card, Soren. Always look overseas for criticism of Australian society simply because you disagree with a decision made by a democratically elected government of this country. When you have figured out what democracy actually means, get back to us, OK? ::) ::)
Then you might try answering the questions asked of you. You keep missing the ones I ask. Shame really, 'cause I'd like to expose you for the hypocrite you are. Which is of course why you don't answer them, right? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2020 at 4:45pm
Far from slowing that rise, the explosive growth in welfare outlays that followed the onset of the crisis perpetuated the pathologies by allowing dysfunctional communities to survive. And instead of frankly confronting the root causes, successive governments relied on grandiose statements of good intentions and on torrents of cash in an increasingly futile attempt to paper over the cracks.
(Correction- the article I linked to in this thread was by the Australian author Henry Ergas. The link to the New Criterion article is in the HK thread) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19th, 2020 at 6:39pm
You really are a card, Soren. Always look overseas for criticism of Australian society simply because you disagree with a decision made by a democratically elected government of this country. When you have figured out what democracy actually means, get back to us, OK? ::) ::)
Then you might try answering the questions asked of you. You keep missing the ones I ask. Shame really, 'cause I'd like to expose you for the hypocrite you are. Which is of course why you don't answer them, right? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 19th, 2020 at 7:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2020 at 6:39pm:
Me: "lovely weather we are having today" Bwian: " You really are a card, Soren. Always look overseas for criticism of Australian society simply because you disagree with a decision made by a democratically elected government of this country. When you have figured out what democracy actually means, get back to us, OK? ::) ::) Then you might try answering the questions asked of you. You keep missing the ones I ask. Shame really, 'cause I'd like to expose you for the hypocrite you are. Which is of course why you don't answer them, right? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) ::) House of Bwian: |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19th, 2020 at 9:49pm Another failure to answer the questions. Tsk, tsk. No wonder you're a trick-cyclist than have a real profession, Soren. ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Valkie on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:39am
Most families have one.
That problem child that throws tantrums when theydont get what they demand. The ones that are always demanding, always wanting, always greedy. The problem child that grows up to be a problem adult that never gets a job, lives off the rest of the family and gets in trouble with the law. Why are they like this? Because the parents gave them everything and never instilled any sense of self worth or ownership. Being given everything by simply demanding it, made them totally absent from EARNING respect or value. We have done this with the abbo. Give, give, give, They simply take and without true reward for doing anything, they get this once an idea that they are previlidged, just for being. The only cure for these parasites is to deny them the fit, cut them off, make them actually work for what they want. Success through effort, will strengthen their self esteem and improve their lazy culture. To do anything else is denying them the right to be contributing, worthwhile people. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 20th, 2020 at 7:21pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2020 at 9:49pm:
;D ;D 'not answering my question' is your spineless, lying, ridiculously childish way of trying to squirm out when you are pinned down as a fool. You have no questions because you have no coherent ideas that would need illuminating by questions answered. If you had coherent, well-thought out ideas you would simply state them. Instead you get all tut tutting, yawning and mysterious trying to cover up how pathetic and bereft of ideas you actually are. We see you, Bwian, and it's comical. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:48pm Frank wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 7:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I think I asked a question, Soren. One that was too difficult for you to answer. Your supposedly superior intellect balked at the idea of answering a simple question. Tsk, tsk, I wonder why I bother asking questions 'cause like all supposedly superior ijiots you don't answer them. Superior culture, innit it, what you acquired from that University of Baloney that you once attended, hey? ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:11am Frank wrote on Jul 18th, 2020 at 7:00pm:
Thomas Staines Eliot, Poet Laureate.... I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear my trousers rolled.. I have measured out my life with coffee spoons (slurps) ... |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2020 at 4:27pm:
I wouldn't let it. Not even for sit down money. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 21st, 2020 at 7:08pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:48pm:
Answered. See? All you had to do was to say what your question was and it got answered. And it's the University of Bologna. And yes, I attended one semester as a study abroad in the 90s. Founded in 1088, it is the oldest university in the world. And yes, it is infinitely superior to your mail-order phoney doctorate which has taken you to the dizzying intellectual heights of yawning and inane tut-tutting when anyone asks you what day it is. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 21st, 2020 at 8:54pm Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:58pm:
And how would you prevent, Soren? Protest? Gee, why are you upset at the Indigenous Australians doing the same, hey? Looks like it's one rule for you and another everybody else, particularly of they are tinted. Tsk. tsk, such Racism, writ large for all to see. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 21st, 2020 at 8:57pm Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 7:08pm:
It was there, in plain view the whole time, Soren. Just your antipathy towards me prevented you from seeing it. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) Quote:
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Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 21st, 2020 at 9:49pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 8:54pm:
Their 'elders' are like you, rent seeking mafiosos. They are selling out their own people, like you, for preferment. |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Frank on Jul 21st, 2020 at 9:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 8:57pm:
What day is it, Bwian? |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Brian Ross on Jul 21st, 2020 at 11:15pm Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 9:51pm:
Tuesday, Soren. What year is it? |
Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 12:22am
Tsk, tsk........
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Title: Re: The Bruce Pascoes are not addressing the real prob Post by Valkie on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 6:02am
Any culture that has a 94% unemployment rate.
Is basically worthless trash. How long do you think Australia would last if 94% of its white population were unemployed? What would you think if 94% of whites just decided to go on the dole? But it's ok for abbos because.......they is abbos. The second rate, second AUSTRALIANS, after wiping out the original AUSTRALIANS. Genocidal abbos. And they have the hide to call us genocidal? |
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