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Message started by Ajax on Jul 11th, 2020 at 11:43am

Title: JV to set the record straight about AGW
Post by Ajax on Jul 11th, 2020 at 11:43am
What I believe

1. The Earth has warmed up, its been warming up since the little ice age.

2. CO2 contributes to keeping us warm, the first 20ppm are the most effective, after that its effects become logarithmic.

3. Cleaning up pollution, sure I'm not against that. eg
a. the islands of plastic in our oceans
b. Chemicals dumped in to our waterways and oceans
c. Sox, Nox, soot and the like into our atmopshere

4. Deforestation - totally against that.

5.  Clean energy - I do have a problem with this, I like the concept to be sure but the amount of land it will take up to produce so little energy. I would be against it if they started clearing and using forests or arable land for solar panels, wind mills and the like.

6. CO2 is not pollution.

7. The Earth heats and cools in cycles something the hockey stick left out but it is well documented in our history.

8. Man's emissions of CO2 contribute to the overall effects of more CO2 in our atmosphere but mans portion is so tiny in comparison with the natural CO2 that is emitted every years from the land and the oceans its negligible and can be lost in the correction factor.

9. The current warming is not due to solely mans emissions as the IPCC keep telling us.

10. In the past we have had up to 7000 ppm of atmospheric CO2 in our atmosphere and life thrived. In submarines CO2 levels can be from 2000ppm to 5000ppm, human life is not affected.

11. AGW was conjured up by the elite to once again make money out of thin air and through their vehicles like the UN, IPCC, World Bank and other organisations they control including big oil, they want to tax nations on a lie, financial slavery imo.

12. There's more but you get the picture..................!


Title: Re: JV to set the record straight about AGW
Post by Robot on Jul 11th, 2020 at 6:19pm

Ajax wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 11:43am:
In the past we have had up to 7000 ppm of atmospheric CO2 in our atmosphere and life thrived.


;D

"The planet might get really hot as atmospheric carbon levels increase, but some forms of life will do really well, so humans have nothing to worry about."

Title: Re: JV to set the record straight about AGW
Post by lee on Jul 11th, 2020 at 7:15pm

Robot wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 6:19pm:
"The planet might get really hot as atmospheric carbon levels increase, but some forms of life will do really well, so humans have nothing to worry about."



Link? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: JV to set the record straight about AGW
Post by Bobby. on Jul 11th, 2020 at 7:42pm
Covid-19 has dwarfed CO2 levels.

It's the least of our worries now.

Title: Re: JV to set the record straight about AGW
Post by lee on Jul 11th, 2020 at 8:33pm
"The amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere is approaching a level not seen in 15m years and perhaps never previously experienced by a hominoid, according to the authors of a study.

At pre-lockdown rates of increase, within five years atmospheric CO2 will pass 427 parts per million, which was the probable peak of the mid-Pliocene warming period 3.3m years ago, when temperatures were 3C to 4C hotter and sea levels were 20 metres higher than today."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/09/co2-in-earths-atmosphere-nearing-levels-of-15m-years-ago#:~:text=The%20amount%20of%20carbon%20dioxide,the%20authors%20of%20a%20study.

So if CO2 is the control knob then in five years temperatures should be 3C warmer and sea levels should rise 20 metres. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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