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Message started by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 4:10am

Title: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 4:10am
President Trump believes in open accountable government and as such has released the transcripts. The Democrats fought for years to have them remain classified.

This scandal has cost millions, bankrupted an honorable general and cost the credibility of the US justice system. All built on a hoax!



PAIN IS COMING!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/transcripts-of-michael-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-released/

The transcripts of calls between Michael Flynn and then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were released Friday after they were declassified by the Trump administration.

Flynn, who briefly served as President Trump’s White House national security adviser, was fired in February 2017 and then pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about discussing sanctions and a UN vote with Kislyak in December 2016.

Flynn says he did not intentionally lie and the Justice Department decided this month to drop the case, finding FBI agents including Peter Strzok had no valid basis to interview Flynn days into Trump’s presidency.

Four calls and one voicemail are transcribed over 24 pages released by Republican lawmakers.

“Lt. General Flynn, his legal team, the judge and the American people can now see with their own eyes – for the first time – that all of the innuendo about Lt. General Flynn this whole time was totally bunk,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said in a statement. “There was nothing improper about his call, and the FBI knew it.”

Grassley added: “After all the screw-ups and malicious behavior by FBI and DOJ officials during the Russia investigation, we simply cannot take them at their word anymore. We need oversight and transparency to sort out this mess.”

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Outgoing Trump intel chief declassifies calls between Flynn, Kislyak
The transcripts document conversations during the Trump presidential transition, including the men discussing sanctions.

In one conversation, Flynn implores Kislyak not to escalate a sanction war with the outgoing Obama administration.

Flynn said to the ambassador: “I know you have to have some sort of action, to only make it reciprocal; don’t go any further than you have to because I don’t want us to get into something that have to escalate to tit-for-tat. Do you follow me?”

In another conversation, Flynn talks about the incoming administration’s views on the Middle East.

“[Y]ou know that the strategic goal is stability in the Middle East,” Flynn said. “That’s the strategic goal. And, and, you know, between you and I, and you know this, and we know this, you know between Moscow and Washington. We will not achieve stability in the Middle East without working with each other against this radical Islamist crowd. Period.”

In an apparent reference to the UN vote that Flynn allegedly lied about, regarding Israeli settlements, the Trump adviser said: “we will try to help to postpone the vote and to allow for consultations.”

Trump Intelligence director John Ratcliffe sent the documents to Congress on Friday after they were declassified this week by his predecessor, acting director Ric Grenell.

Defenders of the retired Army general, including White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany, point out that the FBI had the transcripts when they interviewed Flynn.

Recently released documents revealed that the FBI nearly closed an investigation into Flynn on Jan. 4, 2017, after finding no evidence that he was a Russian agent. But Strzok and his mistress, former FBI attorney Lisa Page, with whom he traded anti-Trump text messages, intervened to keep the case open citing the never-used Logan Act of 1799, which bans ordinary citizens from conducting foreign diplomacy. The law is widely considered unconstitutional.

Then-President Barack Obama learned of Flynn’s calls with Kislyak before then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, who ran day-to-day operations at the Justice Department. Yates, who was fired by Trump for refusing to defend a travel ban on a group of predominately Muslim countries, was stunned to learn about the Flynn-Kislyak calls directly from Obama at a Jan, 5, 2017, meeting, rather than her subordinates, according to recently released documents.

The FBI’s interview of Flynn occurred outside of standard protocol. Former FBI Director James Comey publicly acknowledged he sent agents including Strzok to interview Flynn days into Trump’s administration without informing the White House counsel’s office. Senior Justice Department leaders also were cut out of the decision, which Yates said frustrated her.

A handwritten note released this month from former FBI counterintelligence director Bill Priestap — following a meeting with Comey and then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe — said regarding Flynn: “What’s our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”

Flynn was fired by Trump for allegedly lying to Vice President Mike Pence about the calls with Kislyak, which were made with the knowledge of other Trump transition officials. Pence recently said he’s inclined to believe that Flynn did not intentionally lie.

In pleading guilty to lying to the FBI, Flynn avoided charges for working as an unregistered agent of Turkey and agreed to cooperate with investigators in the Russia probe. A subsequent investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller found no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.


Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Rider on May 31st, 2020 at 6:26am
Transcripts and summaries released.  Lock n Load.  Ropes and trees to be used again.

Can't wait for the useful idiots here to try and twist and spin this into some contorted hellhole of lies and misdirection. 

As we know, if the left didn't have lies they wouldn't have anything. 

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 8:50am

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:26am:
Transcripts and summaries released.  Lock n Load.  Ropes and trees to be used again.

Can't wait for the useful idiots here to try and twist and spin this into some contorted hellhole of lies and misdirection. 

As we know, if the left didn't have lies they wouldn't have anything. 


Yes they will want to bury the story as fast as possible. So that it doesn't grow legs.

They know they're wrong but don't have the balls to admit it.



Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Rider on May 31st, 2020 at 9:44am

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 8:50am:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:26am:
Transcripts and summaries released.  Lock n Load.  Ropes and trees to be used again.

Can't wait for the useful idiots here to try and twist and spin this into some contorted hellhole of lies and misdirection. 

As we know, if the left didn't have lies they wouldn't have anything. 


Yes they will want to bury the story as fast as possible. So that it doesn't grow legs.

They know they're wrong but don't have the balls to admit it.


Quick  find some Russians...no make that Ukrainians....oops ...run out ....quick better call Trump a racist for NOT colluding with Russians....you know it makes sense...

All the leftturds are waiting for the script to come out of lawfare so they can lie and spin....

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Dnarever on May 31st, 2020 at 11:12am
The FBI claim was that Flynn discussed the action against the sanctions, the transcript 100% confirms that this is what happened.

End of Story.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 12:57pm

Dnarever wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:12am:
The FBI claim was that Flynn discussed the action against the sanctions, the transcript 100% confirms that this is what happened.

End of Story.


Nothing wrong with that Quack!

Flynn as the about to be appointed DNI director was entirely correct in doing so.

over to you Quack!

 

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 1:28pm

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:57pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:12am:
The FBI claim was that Flynn discussed the action against the sanctions, the transcript 100% confirms that this is what happened.

End of Story.


Nothing wrong with that Quack!

Flynn as the about to be appointed DNI director was entirely correct in doing so.

over to you Quack!

 


We've shown you the laws he broke and you ran off. We also said you'd be back to repeat your lies again, and here you are, predictable as always.

It most certainly is a crime to do business on behalf of your government with a foreign government. Flynn wasn't conducting private business, he was sabotaging government policy.

But the one thing he doesn't want you to know are in the other transcripts - the ones they won't release. Flynn promised to overturn Obama's sanctions when in government, that's the big one.

These were sanctions passed by Congress. Flynn was bargaining with his countries laws, and he wasn't even in government.

He then lied to Congress, the Secret Service, the VP and the FBI that he did it.

Now that is the very definition of treason.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Rider on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?

I/we don't want you to commit harikari - but a sincere apology for the last 3 years of lies would help!

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?


They met Flynn in the White House, dear. That's impossible.

They asked him the question and he said no. How did they intimidate him?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by JaSin. on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm
Looks like the FBI are in with Trump more than they are in with Flynn.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 1:56pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?


They met Flynn in the White House, dear. That's impossible.

They asked him the question and he said no. How did they intimidate him?


Karnal is obfuscating because he/she/it is caught in her/his/its own lies.

Give it up!

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Rider on May 31st, 2020 at 4:09pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?



Gee...maybe his lawyers advised/strong armed him....guess that answers that.
I'm not gonna do this again, OK?  You'll have to use your own grey matter from now on. Or just get the contrived answers from Lawfare blog.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 6:35pm

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:56pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?


They met Flynn in the White House, dear. That's impossible.

They asked him the question and he said no. How did they intimidate him?


Karnal is obfuscating because he/she/it is caught in her/his/its own lies.

Give it up!


No no, just answer the question, dear. How did the FBI intimidate Flynn into lying about his involvement with the Russians?

You've gone from he didn't lie to it's not against the law to he did it to protect to his son to the FBI intimidated him, so unfair.

So again, why did he lie?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 6:50pm

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 4:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?



Gee...maybe his lawyers advised/strong armed him....guess that answers that.


His own lawyers, eh? Cunning.

Flynn spoke to the FBI without any lawyers and without any intimidation. They visited Flynn in the White House after hearing him on tape speaking with the Russian Ambassador on about 20 separate calls. So, Mr Flynn, did you speak to any Russians after the erection?

No, why?

Oh, just curious. Thanks.

Intimidation, eh? Flynn's lawyers advised him to co-operate because he didn't have a leg to stand on. FBI prosecutors didn't withdraw Flynn's charges because he's innocent, they withdrew them because Bill Barr passed the order on from Trump: drop charges.

Flynn pleaded guilty to those charges. Of course he lied to the FBI. Of course he breached the Logan Act, the Hatch Act and plenty other felonies as well, the FBI only charged him with lying to them. Flynn was getting off lightly. They even recommended a non-custodial sentence.

As soon as Judge Sullivan disagreed with the FBI about non-custodial sentences, they dropped the charges.

Cunning, no? Now why do you think that was?

Stone goes down in June, by the way. Probably the same minimum security place as Cohen. If there's any justice left in America, Flynn will be joining them.




Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Rider on May 31st, 2020 at 7:46pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:50pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 4:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?



Gee...maybe his lawyers advised/strong armed him....guess that answers that.


His own lawyers, eh? Cunning.

Flynn spoke to the FBI without any lawyers and without any intimidation. They visited Flynn in the White House after hearing him on tape speaking with the Russian Ambassador on about 20 separate calls. So, Mr Flynn, did you speak to any Russians after the erection?

No, why?

Oh, just curious. Thanks.

Intimidation, eh? Flynn's lawyers advised him to co-operate because he didn't have a leg to stand on. FBI prosecutors didn't withdraw Flynn's charges because he's innocent, they withdrew them because Bill Barr passed the order on from Trump: drop charges.

Flynn pleaded guilty to those charges. Of course he lied to the FBI. Of course he breached the Logan Act, the Hatch Act and plenty other felonies as well, the FBI only charged him with lying to them. Flynn was getting off lightly. They even recommended a non-custodial sentence.

As soon as Judge Sullivan disagreed with the FBI about non-custodial sentences, they dropped the charges.

Cunning, no? Now why do you think that was?

Stone goes down in June, by the way. Probably the same minimum security place as Cohen. If there's any justice left in America, Flynn will be joining them.


Don't be stupid ..stupid.

If Trump went within a mile of this all hell would break loose....safe to say you lie.

Bill Barr is pretty much a stooge...he's mainly concerned about minimising the fall out...but even he is now seeing the depth of this attempted and ongoing coup on the POTUS.....but he is fat and soft....on all levels.  The new boys on the block not so....

Looks like Muellars team is ready for the drop....Nunes requested this information years ago....no wonder Rodentstein withheld it.....gonna need more rope.

No wonder they had to bury Flynn.....the light is well and truly on the corrupted.....the desperate rats are in the trap which ones are talking.....who's doing a plea deal first?? Strozk better look left and right before he crosses a street just in case he accidentally throws himself under a bus   ;D

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 8:07pm

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 7:46pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:50pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 4:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?



Gee...maybe his lawyers advised/strong armed him....guess that answers that.


His own lawyers, eh? Cunning.

Flynn spoke to the FBI without any lawyers and without any intimidation. They visited Flynn in the White House after hearing him on tape speaking with the Russian Ambassador on about 20 separate calls. So, Mr Flynn, did you speak to any Russians after the erection?

No, why?

Oh, just curious. Thanks.

Intimidation, eh? Flynn's lawyers advised him to co-operate because he didn't have a leg to stand on. FBI prosecutors didn't withdraw Flynn's charges because he's innocent, they withdrew them because Bill Barr passed the order on from Trump: drop charges.

Flynn pleaded guilty to those charges. Of course he lied to the FBI. Of course he breached the Logan Act, the Hatch Act and plenty other felonies as well, the FBI only charged him with lying to them. Flynn was getting off lightly. They even recommended a non-custodial sentence.

As soon as Judge Sullivan disagreed with the FBI about non-custodial sentences, they dropped the charges.

Cunning, no? Now why do you think that was?

Stone goes down in June, by the way. Probably the same minimum security place as Cohen. If there's any justice left in America, Flynn will be joining them.


Don't be stupid ..stupid.

If Trump went within a mile of this all hell would break loose....safe to say you lie.

Bill Barr is pretty much a stooge...he's mainly concerned about minimising the fall out...but even he is now seeing the depth of this attempted and ongoing coup on the POTUS.....but he is fat and soft....on all levels.  The new boys on the block not so....

Looks like Muellars team is ready for the drop....Nunes requested this information years ago....no wonder Rodentstein withheld it.....gonna need more rope.

No wonder they had to bury Flynn.....the light is well and truly on the corrupted.....the desperate rats are in the trap which ones are talking.....who's doing a plea deal first?? Strozk better look left and right before he crosses a street just in case he accidentally throws himself under a bus   ;D


Which ones were talking?

Not Stone, he stayed schtum from the start. Goes to jail in a couple of weeks.

Not Cohen - not initially, anyway. He prayed for a pardon, and when it didn't come, he cooperated, then lied, then got warned and went back to cooperating.

Flynn? Cooperated from day-one. Big guilty plea too: sorry I lied, guys.

Draining the swamp? No administration since Nixon has had this many arrests. Even Republican judges are saying enough's enough. Flynn broke the law - big time. He needs to face that.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Rider on May 31st, 2020 at 8:43pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 8:07pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 7:46pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:50pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 4:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?



Gee...maybe his lawyers advised/strong armed him....guess that answers that.


His own lawyers, eh? Cunning.

Flynn spoke to the FBI without any lawyers and without any intimidation. They visited Flynn in the White House after hearing him on tape speaking with the Russian Ambassador on about 20 separate calls. So, Mr Flynn, did you speak to any Russians after the erection?

No, why?

Oh, just curious. Thanks.

Intimidation, eh? Flynn's lawyers advised him to co-operate because he didn't have a leg to stand on. FBI prosecutors didn't withdraw Flynn's charges because he's innocent, they withdrew them because Bill Barr passed the order on from Trump: drop charges.

Flynn pleaded guilty to those charges. Of course he lied to the FBI. Of course he breached the Logan Act, the Hatch Act and plenty other felonies as well, the FBI only charged him with lying to them. Flynn was getting off lightly. They even recommended a non-custodial sentence.

As soon as Judge Sullivan disagreed with the FBI about non-custodial sentences, they dropped the charges.

Cunning, no? Now why do you think that was?

Stone goes down in June, by the way. Probably the same minimum security place as Cohen. If there's any justice left in America, Flynn will be joining them.


Don't be stupid ..stupid.

If Trump went within a mile of this all hell would break loose....safe to say you lie.

Bill Barr is pretty much a stooge...he's mainly concerned about minimising the fall out...but even he is now seeing the depth of this attempted and ongoing coup on the POTUS.....but he is fat and soft....on all levels.  The new boys on the block not so....

Looks like Muellars team is ready for the drop....Nunes requested this information years ago....no wonder Rodentstein withheld it.....gonna need more rope.

No wonder they had to bury Flynn.....the light is well and truly on the corrupted.....the desperate rats are in the trap which ones are talking.....who's doing a plea deal first?? Strozk better look left and right before he crosses a street just in case he accidentally throws himself under a bus   ;D


Which ones were talking?

Not Stone, he stayed schtum from the start. Goes to jail in a couple of weeks.

Not Cohen - not initially, anyway. He prayed for a pardon, and when it didn't come, he cooperated, then lied, then got warned and went back to cooperating.

Flynn? Cooperated from day-one. Big guilty plea too: sorry I lied, guys.

Draining the swamp? No administration since Nixon has had this many arrests. Even Republican judges are saying enough's enough. Flynn broke the law - big time. He needs to face that.


All stitched up by Muellars hit squad....for petty nothing non crimes....got any Russians in that bundle of lies? You'll need to find some new ones....all the old ones ain't singing your dumb tune.

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 10:26pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:35pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:56pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?


They met Flynn in the White House, dear. That's impossible.

They asked him the question and he said no. How did they intimidate him?


Karnal is obfuscating because he/she/it is caught in her/his/its own lies.

Give it up!


No no, just answer the question, dear. How did the FBI intimidate Flynn into lying about his involvement with the Russians?

You've gone from he didn't lie to it's not against the law to he did it to protect to his son to the FBI intimidated him, so unfair.

So again, why did he lie?


Do some research and read the transcript!

Apologize - then go away!

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 10:35pm

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 8:43pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 8:07pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 7:46pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:50pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 4:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?



Gee...maybe his lawyers advised/strong armed him....guess that answers that.


His own lawyers, eh? Cunning.

Flynn spoke to the FBI without any lawyers and without any intimidation. They visited Flynn in the White House after hearing him on tape speaking with the Russian Ambassador on about 20 separate calls. So, Mr Flynn, did you speak to any Russians after the erection?

No, why?

Oh, just curious. Thanks.

Intimidation, eh? Flynn's lawyers advised him to co-operate because he didn't have a leg to stand on. FBI prosecutors didn't withdraw Flynn's charges because he's innocent, they withdrew them because Bill Barr passed the order on from Trump: drop charges.

Flynn pleaded guilty to those charges. Of course he lied to the FBI. Of course he breached the Logan Act, the Hatch Act and plenty other felonies as well, the FBI only charged him with lying to them. Flynn was getting off lightly. They even recommended a non-custodial sentence.

As soon as Judge Sullivan disagreed with the FBI about non-custodial sentences, they dropped the charges.

Cunning, no? Now why do you think that was?

Stone goes down in June, by the way. Probably the same minimum security place as Cohen. If there's any justice left in America, Flynn will be joining them.


Don't be stupid ..stupid.

If Trump went within a mile of this all hell would break loose....safe to say you lie.

Bill Barr is pretty much a stooge...he's mainly concerned about minimising the fall out...but even he is now seeing the depth of this attempted and ongoing coup on the POTUS.....but he is fat and soft....on all levels.  The new boys on the block not so....

Looks like Muellars team is ready for the drop....Nunes requested this information years ago....no wonder Rodentstein withheld it.....gonna need more rope.

No wonder they had to bury Flynn.....the light is well and truly on the corrupted.....the desperate rats are in the trap which ones are talking.....who's doing a plea deal first?? Strozk better look left and right before he crosses a street just in case he accidentally throws himself under a bus   ;D


Which ones were talking?

Not Stone, he stayed schtum from the start. Goes to jail in a couple of weeks.

Not Cohen - not initially, anyway. He prayed for a pardon, and when it didn't come, he cooperated, then lied, then got warned and went back to cooperating.

Flynn? Cooperated from day-one. Big guilty plea too: sorry I lied, guys.

Draining the swamp? No administration since Nixon has had this many arrests. Even Republican judges are saying enough's enough. Flynn broke the law - big time. He needs to face that.


All stitched up by Mueller's hit squad....for petty nothing non crimes....got any Russians in that bundle of lies? You'll need to find some new ones....all the old ones ain't singing your dumb tune.


Mueller went so far as to charge Russians with crimes.

What Mueller did not expect is that those Russians who  turned up in a US court to plead not guilty.

The charges were dismissed - very embarrassing for Mueller. Mueller's inquiry was a hoax - politically driven charade that we knew except the clueless

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 10:37pm

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:35pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:56pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?


They met Flynn in the White House, dear. That's impossible.

They asked him the question and he said no. How did they intimidate him?


Karnal is obfuscating because he/she/it is caught in her/his/its own lies.

Give it up!


No no, just answer the question, dear. How did the FBI intimidate Flynn into lying about his involvement with the Russians?

You've gone from he didn't lie to it's not against the law to he did it to protect to his son to the FBI intimidated him, so unfair.

So again, why did he lie?


Read the transcript!


Of the FBI interview?

Come come, you'll have to better than that.

Why did Flynn lie? Shouldn't he be proud of his tight relationship with the Russian Ambassador?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2020 at 10:41pm

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 8:43pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 8:07pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 7:46pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:50pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 4:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:34pm:

Rider wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!



It's in the New York Post as well, dear. Do you want to answer the question?

We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Oh crickey...well if it's in The Guardian it'll be right then.  I retract all my previous comments now that the light has been shone so brightly apron my wrong doings...

Oh hang on....the crappion.....not in this lifetime sunshine..pond sucking scum dogs.


It's in every other paper too, dear. Do you want to answer the question?



Gee...maybe his lawyers advised/strong armed him....guess that answers that.


His own lawyers, eh? Cunning.

Flynn spoke to the FBI without any lawyers and without any intimidation. They visited Flynn in the White House after hearing him on tape speaking with the Russian Ambassador on about 20 separate calls. So, Mr Flynn, did you speak to any Russians after the erection?

No, why?

Oh, just curious. Thanks.

Intimidation, eh? Flynn's lawyers advised him to co-operate because he didn't have a leg to stand on. FBI prosecutors didn't withdraw Flynn's charges because he's innocent, they withdrew them because Bill Barr passed the order on from Trump: drop charges.

Flynn pleaded guilty to those charges. Of course he lied to the FBI. Of course he breached the Logan Act, the Hatch Act and plenty other felonies as well, the FBI only charged him with lying to them. Flynn was getting off lightly. They even recommended a non-custodial sentence.

As soon as Judge Sullivan disagreed with the FBI about non-custodial sentences, they dropped the charges.

Cunning, no? Now why do you think that was?

Stone goes down in June, by the way. Probably the same minimum security place as Cohen. If there's any justice left in America, Flynn will be joining them.


Don't be stupid ..stupid.

If Trump went within a mile of this all hell would break loose....safe to say you lie.

Bill Barr is pretty much a stooge...he's mainly concerned about minimising the fall out...but even he is now seeing the depth of this attempted and ongoing coup on the POTUS.....but he is fat and soft....on all levels.  The new boys on the block not so....

Looks like Muellars team is ready for the drop....Nunes requested this information years ago....no wonder Rodentstein withheld it.....gonna need more rope.

No wonder they had to bury Flynn.....the light is well and truly on the corrupted.....the desperate rats are in the trap which ones are talking.....who's doing a plea deal first?? Strozk better look left and right before he crosses a street just in case he accidentally throws himself under a bus   ;D


Which ones were talking?

Not Stone, he stayed schtum from the start. Goes to jail in a couple of weeks.

Not Cohen - not initially, anyway. He prayed for a pardon, and when it didn't come, he cooperated, then lied, then got warned and went back to cooperating.

Flynn? Cooperated from day-one. Big guilty plea too: sorry I lied, guys.

Draining the swamp? No administration since Nixon has had this many arrests. Even Republican judges are saying enough's enough. Flynn broke the law - big time. He needs to face that.


All stitched up by Muellars hit squad....for petty nothing non crimes....got any Russians in that bundle of lies? You'll need to find some new ones....all the old ones ain't singing your dumb tune.


All stitched up, in one way or another, for lying.

That's the thing with Mr Trump's friends, croneys and employees. They don't come straight out, they cover up, lie, evade, hide.

So what's Flynn trying to hide?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 10:54pm

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 10:37pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:35pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:56pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?


They met Flynn in the White House, dear. That's impossible.

They asked him the question and he said no. How did they intimidate him?


Karnal is obfuscating because he/she/it is caught in her/his/its own lies.

Give it up!


No no, just answer the question, dear. How did the FBI intimidate Flynn into lying about his involvement with the Russians?

You've gone from he didn't lie to it's not against the law to he did it to protect to his son to the FBI intimidated him, so unfair.

So again, why did he lie?


Read the transcript!


Of the FBI interview?

Come come, you'll have to better than that.

Why did Flynn lie? Shouldn't he be proud of his tight relationship with the Russian Ambassador?


A confession under duress carries no weight. You do understand that?

There is nothing in that conversation that was wrong or illegal. Incoming administrative heads have the right to discuss upcoming policies beforehand - happens all the time.

The FBI had read the transcript before meeting with Flynn. They wanted to trap him and they did. It was none of the FBI"s business what Flynn said - in fact eavesdropping on an agency head is most likely illegal.

We now know the FBI's actions were politically motivated. Flynn needs to sue and members of the FBI need to be charged. And the FBI shouldn't meddle in the policies of a duly elected government. NSC attempted to control the incoming administration.

Hillary was treated a little different after destroying subpoenaed evidence by the FBI. Imagine if Flynn  had done something like that?


Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on May 31st, 2020 at 11:03pm
All stitched up by Muellars hit squad....for petty nothing non crimes....got any Russians in that bundle of lies? You'll need to find some new ones....all the old ones ain't singing your dumb tune.


All stitched up, in one way or another, for lying.

That's the thing with Mr Trump's friends, croneys and employees. They don't come straight out, they cover up, lie, evade, hide.

So what's Flynn trying to hide?
--------------


A pack of cigarettes is his left pocket after he said he quit!

Karnels caught peddling lies for years so what he/she do - claims that we are lying and there is a conspiracy!

A sincere apology and a laugh at your own stupidity would prove that you are sane but ..............

Too much for me ..... and so the insanity continues!

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on Jun 1st, 2020 at 12:13am

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 10:54pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 10:37pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 6:35pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:56pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:38pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:39am:
Congress released the transcripts, Rich.

Although I note you got a lock n load out of Rider, so they must be good news.

Can I ask how?


Through executive order - Old Moo!





We're both wrong.


Quote:
The transcripts were released by Senate Republicans after being provided by Trump’s new national intelligence director, John Ratcliffe, who waded into one of the most contentious political topics in his first week on the job.

Ratcliffe’s extraordinary decision to disclose transcripts of intercepted conversations with a foreign ambassador is part of ongoing efforts by Trump allies to release previously secret information from the Russia investigation in hopes of painting Obama-era officials in a bad light.
The transcripts are unlikely to significantly reshape public understanding of the contact between Flynn and the then Russian ambassador, a central moment in the Russia investigation.

They do show that the men did in fact discuss sanctions, matching the general description of the call provided in the 2017 guilty plea that Flynn reached with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/michael-flynn-transcripts-russian-ambassador-senate

So why did Flynn lie, dear? You still haven't said.


Because the FBI put a loaded gun to his head and said "say this or we pull the trigger on you and your son".

Nothing wrong with that - standard practice for opponents really.

You would of course would never have done that. You have standards - unless there was overtime money involved - eh Caramel?


They met Flynn in the White House, dear. That's impossible.

They asked him the question and he said no. How did they intimidate him?


Karnal is obfuscating because he/she/it is caught in her/his/its own lies.

Give it up!


No no, just answer the question, dear. How did the FBI intimidate Flynn into lying about his involvement with the Russians?

You've gone from he didn't lie to it's not against the law to he did it to protect to his son to the FBI intimidated him, so unfair.

So again, why did he lie?


Read the transcript!


Of the FBI interview?

Come come, you'll have to better than that.

Why did Flynn lie? Shouldn't he be proud of his tight relationship with the Russian Ambassador?


A confession under duress carries no weight. You do understand that?

There is nothing in that conversation that was wrong or illegal. Incoming administrative heads have the right to discuss upcoming policies beforehand - happens all the time.

The FBI had read the transcript before meeting with Flynn. They wanted to trap him and they did. It was none of the FBI"s business what Flynn said - in fact eavesdropping on an agency head is most likely illegal.

We now know the FBI's actions were politically motivated. Flynn needs to sue and members of the FBI need to be charged. And the FBI shouldn't meddle in the policies of a duly elected government. NSC attempted to control the incoming administration.

Hillary was treated a little different after destroying subpoenaed evidence by the FBI. Imagine if Flynn  had done something like that?



The only "duress" was evidence. Flynn colluded with the Russians. He said he didn't. He sabotaged the course of justice by lying to the FBI.

I'm just asking you why he did it. Why did Flynn lie?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Karnal on Jun 1st, 2020 at 12:14am

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:03pm:
All stitched up by Muellars hit squad....for petty nothing non crimes....got any Russians in that bundle of lies? You'll need to find some new ones....all the old ones ain't singing your dumb tune.


All stitched up, in one way or another, for lying.

That's the thing with Mr Trump's friends, croneys and employees. They don't come straight out, they cover up, lie, evade, hide.

So what's Flynn trying to hide?
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A pack of cigarettes is his left pocket after he said he quit!

Karnels caught peddling lies for years so what he/she do - claims that we are lying and there is a conspiracy!

A sincere apology and a laugh at your own stupidity would prove that you are sane but ..............

Too much for me ..... and so the insanity continues!


So what are you trying to hide?

This is what it comes down to, Rich. Why do you continue to evade? What are you scared of revealing?

Title: Re: Flynn - Russian Ambassador transcript released.
Post by Richdude on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:21am

Karnal wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 12:14am:

Richdude wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:03pm:
All stitched up by Muellars hit squad....for petty nothing non crimes....got any Russians in that bundle of lies? You'll need to find some new ones....all the old ones ain't singing your dumb tune.


All stitched up, in one way or another, for lying.

That's the thing with Mr Trump's friends, croneys and employees. They don't come straight out, they cover up, lie, evade, hide.

So what's Flynn trying to hide?
--------------


A pack of cigarettes is his left pocket after he said he quit!

Karnels caught peddling lies for years so what he/she do - claims that we are lying and there is a conspiracy!

A sincere apology and a laugh at your own stupidity would prove that you are sane but ..............

Too much for me ..... and so the insanity continues!


So what are you trying to hide?

This is what it comes down to, Rich. Why do you continue to evade? What are you scared of revealing?



Obviously a conspiracy!

You said that Trump was afraid of the transcript - in fact he OK'd its release. You said there were details in the transcript that would prove Flynns guilt.

So you have been wrong with your conspiracy theories. What else are you wrong about? Russian collusion - remember that one? Or Trump supporters were really covert Russian assets! You have to admit that is really crazy.

So everything I suspect!

have a good laugh at your stupidity and move on. Listen to what I say - I'll set you straight! ;D

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