Is the Coronavirus the end of the Abbos?
I feel sorry for them as they don't have the immunity from disease that we have.
The European diseases brought here in the past almost wiped them out
but now this Coronavirus could be the end for them?

they need to isolate all the communities with severe jail time for anyone that breaches the order.

Supplies can be dropped in by chopper and medical aid provided only by medics who have been tested and cleared immediately prior to entry..

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:45pm:

they need to isolate all the communities with severe jail time for anyone that breaches the order. Supplies can be dropped in by chopper and medical aid provided only by medics who have been tested and cleared immediately prior to entry..

We have to do something to protect them but already:


The NT Govt has closed its borders - no one in without 14 day isolation. There is a schedule of 76 Aboriginal communities where residents may leave but will not be allowed back in even with isolation. Queensland has done something similar with the NT border and there have been noises about isolating Cape York and Torres Strait communities.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:41pm:

I feel sorry for them as they don't have the immunity from disease that we have.

That may apply to full bloods,although they have been associated with whites, and so have caught the white man's diseases.

Those not full blood have a percentage of white man's genes and some antibodies that way.

Only in full bloods that have never had an association with white man is at more risk. But even white man has no immunity to COVID-19.

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2020 at 7:41pm: I feel sorry for them as they don't have the immunity from disease that we have. That may apply to full bloods,although they have been associated with whites, and so have caught the white man's diseases. Those not full blood have a percentage of white man's genes and some antibodies that way. Only in full bloods that have never had an association with white man is at more risk. But even white man has no immunity to COVID-19.

But our ancestors survived:
the black plague,
diphtheria,
typhoid,
cholera,
many types of flu including the Spanish flu,
1000s of different types of cold.
a full list here:

https://www.cdc.gov/diseasesconditions/az/c.html


Abbos didn't.

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:02pm:

But even white man has no immunity to COVID-19.

with the majority of people, their immune system is enough to fight covid19. Only a relatively small percentage off those infected will require hospitalization or medical treatment, and most of those will be elderly or those with pre-existing conditions.

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:19pm:

with the majority of people, their immune system is enough to fight covid19.

Exactly petal. ;)

Actually - John Smith - you're not supposed to be posting in the Environment forum.

I will suspend that for this thread only provided that you don't start abusing people.

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21st, 2020 at 8:19pm: with the majority of people, their immune system is enough to fight covid19. Exactly petal. ;)

and yet you said


lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:02pm:

But even white man has no immunity to COVID-19.

:D :D :D :D

your two positions are polar opposites.

you don't know where you stand do you? :D :D :D

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Actually - John - you're not supposed to be posting in the Environment forum. I will suspend that for this thread only provided that you don't start abusing people.

environment? Sorry  ::)

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:12pm:

But our ancestors survived: the black plague, diphtheria, typhoid, cholera, many types of flu including the Spanish flu, 1000s of different types of cold.

And they have passed most of those on to the aboriginals, apart from any who have had no contact with the whiteman.

Any part aboriginal has those genes embedded.

"Since the establishment of the NNDSS, there have been 23 notified cases of diphtheria, including one fatality. These cases occurred in 1991 (eight cases) and 1992 (15 cases); 12 were male (male:female ratio 1.1:1). Of the 23 patients, 16 (14 Aborigines) resided in the Northern Territory. Most (64%) of these recent cases were aged at least 15 years (range 1-78 years), in contrast with the pre-vaccine era when less than 30% of cases were aged 15 years and older."

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-pubs-cdi-2000-cdi2406-cdi2406f.htm

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2020 at 8:12pm: But our ancestors survived: the black plague, diphtheria, typhoid, cholera, many types of flu including the Spanish flu, 1000s of different types of cold. And they have passed most of those on to the aboriginals, apart from any who have had no contact with the whiteman. Any part aboriginal has those genes embedded.

But full blooded Abbos don't have the same genes as we do
for fighting the shocking diseases our ancestors went through.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:35pm:

But full blooded Abbos don't have the same genes as we do for fighting the shocking diseases our ancestors went through.

I edited my post -

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:31pm:

"Since the establishment of the NNDSS, there have been 23 notified cases of diphtheria, including one fatality. These cases occurred in 1991 (eight cases) and 1992 (15 cases); 12 were male (male:female ratio 1.1:1). Of the 23 patients, 16 (14 Aborigines) resided in the Northern Territory. Most (64%) of these recent cases were aged at least 15 years (range 1-78 years), in contrast with the pre-vaccine era when less than 30% of cases were aged 15 years and older."

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-pubs-cdi-2000-cdi2406-cdi2406f.htm

They get colds and flus just by being around whiteman. And then they spread it within their communities.

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:45pm:

they need to isolate all the communities with severe jail time for anyone that breaches the order. Supplies can be dropped in by chopper and medical aid provided only by medics who have been tested and cleared immediately prior to entry..

I Agree.

But what about the city tribes, such as in Redfern?

Thanks Lee,
diseases are frightening beasts.
Our populations are now so large and so concentrated that disease is a very large problem.
I have a feeling that world will never be the same again after this pandemic.
We've had quarantine for animals crossing our borders
but never for humans.
Maybe after this is all over - maybe 18 months -
there will have to be new laws
to stop it happening again?

Pretty much inevitable that Beer flu will go through the aboriginal community

There are enough amongst them that dont abide by the law
They wont follow the quarantine rules they wont follow the hygiene protocols
Plenty of them have medical conditions
They are forever traveling and visiting relatives
Their communities are remote and difficult to police

miketrees wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 9:56pm:

Pretty much inevitable that Beer flu will go through the aboriginal community There are enough amongst them that dont abide by the law They wont follow the quarantine rules they wont follow the hygiene protocols Plenty of them have medical conditions They are forever traveling and visiting relatives Their communities are remote and difficult to police

It might wipe out huge numbers of them.
We're talking about an extinction event.

All people on the dole will get double the normal amount for a while.

I hope the Abbos won't spend it on grog?

The Abbos in their outback communities will probably be ok and have resistance, they have flies crawling all over them all day, they eat and sleep with their flea infested dogs, they eat nothing but processed foods and chips, they drink nothing but coke and beer, going for a jog or have a morning shower. pfft.
Breakfast: a packet of chips 6 stubbies  and 10 smokes.

This is the life 1/4 of them choose.

They are feeling rich tonight, load up the Land Cruiser.

https://www.camdencourier.com.au/story/6698609/police-pelted-with-bottles-while-trying-to-spread-coronavirus-warnings/?cs=17267

Proof in the above link that the Abbos can't be saved.

They pelted cops with beer bottles.

Did anyone read the above link?

NT Police have come down strongly on one of the first cases of a large group flouting anti-distancing restrictions because of coronavirus fears.

About 150 people gathered at a camp near Alice Springs and refused police orders to disperse.

At one point, about 60 members of the group became aggressive towards the police and started throwing bottles.

Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker expressed his disappointment at the behaviour of the large group following a disturbance at Charles Creek camp at Alice Springs.

Police arrived to the camp about 3 this morning to see about 150 people gathering and displaying anti-social behaviour.

Police were explaining the restrictions relating to the COVID-19 virus and mass gatherings, when a group of around 60 people became aggressive towards police and started to throw bottles.

Police disengaged and requested further assistance.

The group dispersed as more police arrived.

Commissioner Jamie Chalker said this conduct towards police and reports of rocks being thrown at a St John ambulance and a taxi are completely unacceptable.

"Frontline responders are leading the way to ensure the safety of people and to save lives.

"We have no time for ignorance. We need everyone to bond together.

"Mass gatherings go completely against the national messaging and the high importance that everyone is placing around self-quarantine at the moment, ensuring appropriate social distancing.

"The sad reality is, the many moves we are making are based on the fact we know there is a vulnerable cohort living in the Northern Territory. We are taking many steps to ensure that those people have a significant likelihood of surviving COVID-19.

"Many are Aboriginal people, and I need leadership in those communities to make sure that there is a higher level of education and awareness because the behaviour that we saw last night is completely unacceptable.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 5:21pm:

Did anyone read the above link? NT Police have come down strongly on one of the first cases of a large group flouting anti-distancing restrictions because of coronavirus fears. About 150 people gathered at a camp near Alice Springs and refused police orders to disperse. At one point, about 60 members of the group became aggressive towards the police and started throwing bottles. Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker expressed his disappointment at the behaviour of the large group following a disturbance at Charles Creek camp at Alice Springs. Police arrived to the camp about 3 this morning to see about 150 people gathering and displaying anti-social behaviour. Police were explaining the restrictions relating to the COVID-19 virus and mass gatherings, when a group of around 60 people became aggressive towards police and started to throw bottles. Police disengaged and requested further assistance. The group dispersed as more police arrived. Commissioner Jamie Chalker said this conduct towards police and reports of rocks being thrown at a St John ambulance and a taxi are completely unacceptable. "Frontline responders are leading the way to ensure the safety of people and to save lives. "We have no time for ignorance. We need everyone to bond together. "Mass gatherings go completely against the national messaging and the high importance that everyone is placing around self-quarantine at the moment, ensuring appropriate social distancing. "The sad reality is, the many moves we are making are based on the fact we know there is a vulnerable cohort living in the Northern Territory. We are taking many steps to ensure that those people have a significant likelihood of surviving COVID-19. "Many are Aboriginal people, and I need leadership in those communities to make sure that there is a higher level of education and awareness because the behaviour that we saw last night is completely unacceptable.

;D ;D He should have brought a truck load of VBs to get on their good side.  ;D ;D

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

https://www.camdencourier.com.au/story/6698609/police-pelted-with-bottles-while-trying-to-spread-coronavirus-warnings/?cs=17267 Proof in the above link that the Abbos can't be saved. They pelted cops with beer bottles.

They only hate Politicians and their Police.
Everyone else they like.
I don't have a problem with Abbos.
They used to give me tips heaps when I drove them in a Taxi.
We'd even have great discussions during the trip.
Only Political-British/American Whities cop the Abbo flak.
;D

Abbos should only be sold alcohol in cans or cardboard packaging for the good of the wider community.

So they have the Australian Army maning the roadblocks to isolate the communities

I suspected they would need that.