My Son and Family have built a house in an old area, but one that has all services running along the nature strip to their property.   Gas, water and Electricity went on in a reasonable time, but getting the old phone service on is a nightmare.     In the past, you rang Telstra and either they, or a private contractor came around and dug the trench and laid the phone line to the house and connected your house line up, connected you at the exchange and away you went.

However, with the absolute stuff up that the sale of copper networks to the NBN and them being the only people who can do the install, a simple 5 metre copper wire from an existing telecommunications pit, through ready installed conduit, to readily available house data cabling will take 6 months.  The paperwork involved to get that done is horrendous and now, most providers like Optus and Telstra won't touch it, giving (in our case) the Homeowner the job of compiling data plans, imagery and coordinates to NBN.

We should have had beautiful, fast telecommunications technology like fibre to the home for everyone by now but, we are stuck with waiting for a copper run, from a flooded pit, and a laughable internet speed.    Well done Turnbull - your picture should be attached to all the thousands of graffiti covered green boxes that litter the landscape around Australia just because you wanted to destroy a visionary plan to give Australia world's best internet because Rudd and Labor thought of it first.

laughable fast internet.. your dead right...

I seriously thought you had to connect to NBN and of course I did...it is unbelievably slow  you could knit a scarf

6 months wait is so unrealistic...  is it time we had a huge petition to the minister for communications..

let him/her know we have none.. >:( >:( >:( >:(

I bet the hell the pollies dont have that trouble.

Well you all did vote for "tech savvy" Malcolm, who then came up with the crap version of NBN

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 7:49am:

Well you all did vote for "tech savvy" Malcolm, who then came up with the crap version of NBN

no I didnt red and you well know that 

you like him more than I ever did.

Surely you can find a private contractor to run the new cable for you sooner? There are many private contractors independent of both the nbn and telstra that do that sort of work.

I know sometimes they're restricted with access to the existing pit (the ones i know in my area don't have that problem), but what if they bring the line to the pit and not connect it on that end? Then have nbn send someone just for the connection

cods wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 7:55am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 7:49am: Well you all did vote for "tech savvy" Malcolm, who then came up with the crap version of NBN no I didnt red and you well know that  you like him more than I ever did.

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if you didn't put the libs last, you voted for him .... no matter how much you pretend

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 7:58am:

cods wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 7:55am: Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 7:49am: Well you all did vote for "tech savvy" Malcolm, who then came up with the crap version of NBN no I didnt red and you well know that  you like him more than I ever did. ' if you didn't put the libs last, you voted for him .... no matter how much you pretend

I didnt vote at all.. while he was there.

cods wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 8:26am:

I didnt vote at all.. while he was there.

tony abbott screwed up the nbn ... malcolm was just his minister 'who invented the internet'. You voted for the moron

your one liners mean zilch.

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 8:38am:

cods wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 8:26am: I didnt vote at all.. while he was there. tony abbott screwed up the nbn ... malcolm was just his minister 'who invented the internet'. You voted for the moron

Yeah Abbott might have been PM at the time, Malcolm was just sharpening his knife in readiness to take over!

;)

cods wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 9:04am:

your one liners mean zilch.

that's where you're wrong. With my one line I have shown:

1. who's to blame for this schmozzle of an nbn that the libs have left us with

2. shown what a moron you were for voting for it

3. how even the simplest things are beyond your understanding


not bad for one line ehhh..
;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 9:08am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 8:38am: cods wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 8:26am: I didnt vote at all.. while he was there. tony abbott screwed up the nbn ... malcolm was just his minister 'who invented the internet'. You voted for the moron Yeah Abbott might have been PM at the time, Malcolm was just sharpening his knife in readiness to take over! ;)

of course he was. .. but the nbn faqq up is all abbott. Leadership challenges are another matter altogether

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 9:14am:

cods wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 9:04am: your one liners mean zilch. that's where you're wrong. With my one line I have shown: 1. who's to blame for this schmozzle of an nbn that the libs have left us with 2. shown what a moron you were for voting for it 3. how even the simplest things are beyond your understanding not bad for one line ehhh.. ;D ;D

at least your leaving ozpol members alone for a change... well apart from cods...

nothing like rubbing your own ego   will mothra be along any minute to give you a massage?

reds not quite the same is he? >:(

cods wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 2:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 9:14am: cods wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 9:04am: your one liners mean zilch. that's where you're wrong. With my one line I have shown: 1. who's to blame for this schmozzle of an nbn that the libs have left us with 2. shown what a moron you were for voting for it 3. how even the simplest things are beyond your understanding not bad for one line ehhh.. ;D ;D at least your leaving ozpol members alone for a change... well apart from cods... nothing like rubbing your own ego   will mothra be along any minute to give you a massage? reds not quite the same is he? >:(

the others haven't said anything as stupid as you for a few days ... but don't worry, I'm sure they'll do so soon enough

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 7:58am:

Surely you can find a private contractor to run the new cable for you sooner? There are many private contractors independent of both the nbn and telstra that do that sort of work. I know sometimes they're restricted with access to the existing pit (the ones i know in my area don't have that problem), but what if they bring the line to the pit and not connect it on that end? Then have nbn send someone just for the connection

Apparently John, NBN own all the copper and the infrastructure.  All residences need a unique ID to allow NBN to keep track of its connections.    Nothing can happen until NBN assign that number.  I estimate the actual job itself would take an hour to do.  The old Telstra pit is right in front of the property, the conduit has been done and the customer lead in is there.    But nothing will happen until NBN assign the number, and that could take 6 months

Vic wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 7:16am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 7:58am: Surely you can find a private contractor to run the new cable for you sooner? There are many private contractors independent of both the nbn and telstra that do that sort of work. I know sometimes they're restricted with access to the existing pit (the ones i know in my area don't have that problem), but what if they bring the line to the pit and not connect it on that end? Then have nbn send someone just for the connection Apparently John, NBN own all the copper and the infrastructure.  All residences need a unique ID to allow NBN to keep track of its connections.    Nothing can happen until NBN assign that number.  I estimate the actual job itself would take an hour to do.  The old Telstra pit is right in front of the property, the conduit has been done and the customer lead in is there.    But nothing will happen until NBN assign the number, and that could take 6 months

it's frustrating as hell when there is a simple fix but bureaucracy gets in the way

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 2:19pm:

cods wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 2:15pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 9:14am: cods wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 9:04am: your one liners mean zilch. that's where you're wrong. With my one line I have shown: 1. who's to blame for this schmozzle of an nbn that the libs have left us with 2. shown what a moron you were for voting for it 3. how even the simplest things are beyond your understanding not bad for one line ehhh.. ;D ;D at least your leaving ozpol members alone for a change... well apart from cods... nothing like rubbing your own ego   will mothra be along any minute to give you a massage? reds not quite the same is he? >:( the others haven't said anything as stupid as you for a few days ... but don't worry, I'm sure they'll do so soon enough

so sooky bubba!..

good job you learnt all those bad/arse words...where would you be without them?

cods wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 8:43am:

so sooky bubba!..

who's sooking? you made a dumb comment, i showed you how you were wrong. The only one sooking is you.


cods wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 8:43am:

good job you learnt all those bad/arse words...where would you be without them?

well beyond your capabilities

Anybody can have a fiber optic cable to their residence IF THEY WANT TO PAY FOR IT.  Just ask NBN for a quote.

When you get the quote you might realize why Australia could not afford Labor's badly designed NeverBuiltNetwork.

Yeah,,,thanks Abbott

https://theqlder.com/2019/05/11/how-the-liberals-sabotaged-the-nbn/?fbclid=IwAR1KIeAYC2gloORQdrJkjpVd7hAVi5I3Oj5rmmz5AZFYwg4Xv_hMMizelYc

A very good article that states exactly why we have possibly the developed world's worst internet infrastructure after paying the highest price.      

Vic wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:51am:

Yeah,,,thanks Abbott https://theqlder.com/2019/05/11/how-the-liberals-sabotaged-the-nbn/?fbclid=IwAR1KIeAYC2gloORQdrJkjpVd7hAVi5I3Oj5rmmz5AZFYwg4Xv_hMMizelYc A very good article that states exactly why we have possibly the developed world's worst internet infrastructure after paying the highest price.

Yeah don't worry about population density in relation to costings. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:15pm:

Vic wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 7:51am: Yeah,,,thanks Abbott https://theqlder.com/2019/05/11/how-the-liberals-sabotaged-the-nbn/?fbclid=IwAR1KIeAYC2gloORQdrJkjpVd7hAVi5I3Oj5rmmz5AZFYwg4Xv_hMMizelYc A very good article that states exactly why we have possibly the developed world's worst internet infrastructure after paying the highest price.       Yeah don't worry about population density in relation to costings. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

that's right. Govt. doesn't need to worry about that. It hasn't got shareholders to answer to. ::)

John Smith wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:18pm:

Govt. doesn't need to worry about that. It hasn't got shareholders to answer to.

All Australians of voting age are shareholders in the government dufus. Shareholders change the Board (government) at will, providing the votes are there. ::)

lee wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:44pm:

John Smith wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 2:18pm: Govt. doesn't need to worry about that. It hasn't got shareholders to answer to. All Australians are shareholders in the government dufus. Shareholders change the Board (government) at will, providing the votes are there. ::)

I don't think you know what a shareholder is

John Smith wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:44pm:

I don't think you know what a shareholder is

You mean it is not someone who has an interest (shares) in Government/(Company)? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:46pm:

John Smith wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 2:44pm: I don't think you know what a shareholder is You mean it is not someone who has an interest (shares) in Government/(Company)? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

no, it's not someone who has an interest in government.

try again

John Smith wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:49pm:

no, it's not someone who has an interest in government.

poor petal. trying so hard to be relevant in the 21st century. ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:53pm:

John Smith wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 2:49pm: no, it's not someone who has an interest in government. poor petal. trying so hard to be relevant in the 21st century. ;D ;D ;D ;D

run away little man. Your white flag is accepted ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:15pm:

Vic wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 7:51am: Yeah,,,thanks Abbott https://theqlder.com/2019/05/11/how-the-liberals-sabotaged-the-nbn/?fbclid=IwAR1KIeAYC2gloORQdrJkjpVd7hAVi5I3Oj5rmmz5AZFYwg4Xv_hMMizelYc A very good article that states exactly why we have possibly the developed world's worst internet infrastructure after paying the highest price.       Yeah don't worry about population density in relation to costings. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

merely posting the article Petal - please refute it as you see fit. 

John Smith wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:54pm:

Your white flag is accepted

poor petal. Like greggy so eager to claim a white flag. ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 2:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 2:54pm: Your white flag is accepted poor petal. Like greggy so eager to claim a white flag. ;D ;D ;D ;D

You handed it to me dopey.

Vic wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

My Son and Family have built a house in an old area, but one that has all services running along the nature strip to their property.   Gas, water and Electricity went on in a reasonable time, but getting the old phone service on is a nightmare.     In the past, you rang Telstra and either they, or a private contractor came around and dug the trench and laid the phone line to the house and connected your house line up, connected you at the exchange and away you went. However, with the absolute stuff up that the sale of copper networks to the NBN and them being the only people who can do the install, a simple 5 metre copper wire from an existing telecommunications pit, through ready installed conduit, to readily available house data cabling will take 6 months.  The paperwork involved to get that done is horrendous and now, most providers like Optus and Telstra won't touch it, giving (in our case) the Homeowner the job of compiling data plans, imagery and coordinates to NBN. We should have had beautiful, fast telecommunications technology like fibre to the home for everyone by now but, we are stuck with waiting for a copper run, from a flooded pit, and a laughable internet speed.    Well done Turnbull - your picture should be attached to all the thousands of graffiti covered green boxes that litter the landscape around Australia just because you wanted to destroy a visionary plan to give Australia world's best internet because Rudd and Labor thought of it first.

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Australian Paperwork leaves Religion behind.